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miiku headphones

miiku耳机

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如何寻求帮助：

>Location (since pricing and availability may vary)

>所在地区（因为价格和供货可能因地区而异）

>Budget

>What exactly you're looking for (be as detailed as possible)

>你具体在找什么（越详细越好）

>Previous gear and your thoughts on it

>之前的设备以及你对它的评价

>Open back wired headphones

>开放式有线耳机

• Hifiman HE400se

• 海斐曼 HE400se

• Sennheiser HD 560S

• 森海塞尔 HD 560S

• Sennheiser HD 6XX (US)

• 森海塞尔 HD 6XX（美国）

• FiiO FT1 Pro

>Closed back wired headphones

>封闭式有线耳机

• Beyerdynamic DT770

• 拜亚动力 DT770

• Shure SRH440A/SRH840A

• 舒尔 SRH440A/SRH840A

• AKG K361/K371

• FiiO FT1

>Wireless Bluetooth headphones

>无线蓝牙耳机

https://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/best/by-feature/wireless-bluetooth

>Wireless Gaming headphones

>无线游戏耳机

https://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/best/wireless-gaming-headsets

>Cheap Headphone amp/DAC combos

>廉价耳放/DAC 一体机

• JDS Atom2 Stack

• JDS Atom2 套装

• Schiit Magni Unity + Mesh

• Schiit Magni Unity + 网格

• Apos Gremlin/Merlin

• 阿波斯·小魔怪/梅林

• Dongles (Fiio, Crinacle)

• 小尾巴（Fiio、Crinacle）

• Took out the DX5II in the wake of it now blowing up headphones L30 style: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/topping-dx5-ii.60996/page-127#post-2492199

>Active desktop/bookshelf speakers

>有源桌面/书架音箱

• Edifier R1280/MR3/MR4

• 漫步者 R1280/MR3/MR4

• iLoud Micro

• iLoud 微

• Kali LP-6 v2

Kali LP-6 二代

• Neumann KH 80

• 纽曼 KH 80

• KEF Coda W

KEF Coda W音箱

>Passive desktop/bookshelf speakers

>无源桌面/书架音箱

• KEF Q1/Q3 Meta

• KEF Q1/Q3 元

• Ascilab F6B

• Ascilab F6B（列表项：一款音箱型号）

>Interfaces

• Steinberg IXO22

• 斯坦伯格 IXO22

• Topping E1x2

超值E1x2

• Motu M2

莫图M2

>Speaker amps

>功放

• Loxjie A30

•洛克杰A30

• Yamaha R-S202

• 雅马哈 R-S202

• WiiM Amp

>EQ/DSP software

>EQ/DSP 软件

• Equalizer APO (Windows)

• 均衡器 APO (Windows)

• EasyEffects (Linux)

• EasyEffects (Linux)（列表项：Linux 下的音效处理软件）

• Wavelet / RootlessJamesDSP (Android)

• Wavelet / RootlessJamesDSP（安卓）

• PEQdb (browser)

• PEQdb（浏览器）

>EQ/DSP hardware

>EQ/DSP 硬件

• Qudelix 5K

• Qudelix 5K（列表项：一款便携解码耳放）

• Neutron DAC V1

• 中子 DAC V1

• miniDSP

• 迷你DSP

>Useful resources

>实用资源

https://xiph.org/video/

https://harmanhowtolisten.blogspot.com/

https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php

https://superbestaudiofriends.org/index.php

https://diyaudioheaven.wordpress.com/

https://www.erinsaudiocorner.com/

https://peqdb.com/

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>>109477097

I almost want to gamble again and get another pair of FT1 Pro. Few months ago I got one wich was rattling on the right side when producing low frequency noises and I had to return it.

我差点又想赌一把再买一副 FT1 Pro。几个月前买了一副，右边低音时有异响，只能退了。

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>>109477364

i wouldnt trust them if theyve already arrived broken from factory kek

出厂就有问题，那我可不敢信，哈哈。

>>109477398

I wouldn't lose anything, just 10 minutes to drop them off again at the post office. I'll think about it.

我又不亏什么，就花十分钟再去趟邮局退货。我再想想吧。

>>109477097

>>Open back wired headphones

>>开放式有线耳机

>• Hifiman HE400se

>• 男人家HE400se

trash

>• Sennheiser HD 560S

>• 森海塞尔 HD 560S

bright af

亮得刺耳

>• Sennheiser HD 6XX (US)

>• 森海塞尔 HD 6XX（美国）

discontinued / drop dropped it

停产了/Drop 砍了

>• FiiO FT1 Pro

fiio

>>Closed back wired headphones

>>封闭式有线耳机

>• Beyerdynamic DT770

>• 拜亚动力 DT770

DT 270 Pro is much better and cheaper

DT 270 Pro 强多了还便宜

>• Shure SRH440A/SRH840A

>• 舒尔 SRH440A/SRH840A

meh

>• AKG K361/K371

terrible QC and build quality

品控和做工烂到家

>• FiiO FT1

fiio

the new meta is the Sony H6 Air and DT 270 Pro for closed-back <$200

新主流是索尼 H6 Air 和 DT 270 Pro，封闭式 200 美元以内

EQ for android Equalizer314 is really good if your android isnt cucked https://github.com/bearinmindcat/Equalizer314

and hardware DSPi moggs https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/introducing-dspi-a-powerful-user-friendly-and-open-source-dsp-for-less-than-a-cup-of-coffee.69343/

get good at reccs bruh.

推荐也得靠谱点行不。

>>109479366

>DT 270 Pro for closed-back

>DT 270 Pro 封闭式

>much better

>好得多

have you tried them or just going by what reviewers say?

你真听过了还是就听评测瞎说？

>>109479447

>detachable cable

>可换线

>FR isn't a wonky mess as 770

>频响不像 770 那样乱七八糟

>superior pads

>耳罩更强

>cheaper

isn't that enough for you?

这还不够？

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>>109479562

>detachable cable

>可换线

Takes like 20 mins to do that to DT770. your other points mean you havent tried them dont care about a meme chart. i dont trust anything they make since being bought out by china

给 DT770 改这也就 20 分钟的事。你其他论点说明你压根没听过，我才不看什么梗图曲线。被中国人收购后他们家东西我都不信。

>>109477097

Finally, good headphones.

终于有个好耳机了。

>>109479366

>Equalizer314

Fugg, this is so cool. Much better than wavelet(lol) or other goyslop. I can finally eq my pos according to the niggerbass curve~ Also has reverb!

卧槽，这太爽了。比 wavelet 那玩意儿或者其他垃圾强多了。我终于能按 niggerbass 曲线给我的破耳机调 EQ 了~ 居然还有混响！

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>>109481391

>Much better than wavelet(lol) or other goyslop.

>比 wavelet 那玩意儿或者其他垃圾强多了。

Indeed, but it's still in beta, so expect some bugs. It works fine for me, tho.

确实，不过还在测试版，可能有 bug。我用着倒是没问题。

What are some good earbuds or earphones for an MP3 player or mobile phone? My HD 560S headphones kind of reveal to me how bad and uncomfortable my earbuds are. Seriously, I got fatigue from sticking those into my ear for so long now. I have some Life Q20 or whatever these things are headphones but I need something that's easy on the battery life and portable, so earbuds would still be good.

给MP3播放器或手机配什么好的耳塞或耳机？我的HD 560S耳机让我意识到自己的耳塞有多差劲、多不舒服。说真的，塞那么久耳朵都疲劳了。我有副Life Q20还是什么的耳机，但需要个省电又便携的，所以耳塞还是合适的。

any good recs for solid gold headphones?

有人推荐靠谱的纯金耳机吗？

>>109477364

The design itself is the problem. jt7 is the same. Just avoid fiio planars for now.

设计本身就成问题，jt7也一样。现阶段别碰fiio的平面振膜就行。 ⟦ 要我说不光是平面振膜的问题。

Not just their planars if you ask me.

依我看，不只是他们的平面耳机。

>>109482024

https://leronza.ae/product/24k-gold-apple-airpods-max-2/

not my picture but my pulse elites are in the beginning stages of this.

不是我的照片，但我的脉冲精英正处于这个阶段的开始阶段。

I managed to get a full refund out of Amazon even though they were out of the return window.

尽管它们已经超出了退货窗口，但我还是设法从亚马逊获得了全额退款。

Never going with these again. I only got them because the PS3 ones were so good and assumed it would be somewhat similar. Is there anything in the $200 range that has a decent mic that you guys recommend or does it make more sense to just get a decent little boom mic and in-ear monitors?

再也不会和这些在一起了。我买它们只是因为 PS3 的太棒了，并且认为它们会有些相似。你们推荐 200 美元范围内有没有像样的麦克风，或者买一个像样的小型吊杆麦克风和入耳式监听器更有意义？

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>>109477097

>Be me wanting to buy Miku Sony Headphones

>做我想买 Miku Sony 耳机

>Japan only

>仅限日本

WHY

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>>109483837

just order from japan, buyee and dejapan are good and cheap

就从日本订的，buyee和dejapan又好又便宜

>>109479366

>• Sennheiser HD 6XX (US)

>• 森海塞尔 HD 6XX（美国）

>discontinued / drop dropped it

>停产/丢弃它

you can buy them directly from sennheiser now

您现在可以直接从森海塞尔购买

>>109485105

sure...

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>>109485165

not anon but when i checked like a month ago you could still buy it, but was bound to die eventually. Remember these were $129 on drop originally but redditors kept saying "i would of paid twice that!" for years, then at one point they went to $279, hilarious

不是很快，但当我一个月前检查时，你仍然可以购买它，但最终肯定会死。请记住，这些商品最初的掉落价格为 129 美元，但 Reddit 用户一直说“我愿意支付两倍的价格！”好几年了，然后有一次他们涨到了 279 美元，搞笑

>>109477364

just buy used aeons if you want cheap planars, anything that was this low quality across the board is a waste of time for basically no upside. Most chinese trash just ends up costing more in the long run than anything decent as time has proven endlessly

如果你想要便宜的平面，就买二手的 aeons，任何质量如此低劣的东西都是浪费时间，基本上没有任何好处。从长远来看，大多数中国垃圾最终会比任何像样的东西付出更多的代价，时间已经证明了这一点

>>109477097

been seeing a lot of miku collabs lately, did anyone get the m500? Seemed to be pretty cool to me

最近看到很多 miku 的联名款，有人买了 m500 吗？对我来说似乎很酷

as for me my $75 usd hd 600's turned out quite well, they were so disgusting originally that the entire plastic assembly and grills had be doused in an entire bottle of 90% alchohol, eventually the drivers lost the odor after leaving them in dryer sheets for 3 days and now they are good as new with $5 aliexpress pads + headband

对我来说，我的 75 美元 hd 600 的结果相当不错，它们最初非常恶心，整个塑料组件和烤架都浸泡在一整瓶 90% 的酒精中，最终司机在将它们放在干燥纸中 3 天后失去了气味，现在它们就像新的一样，配有 5 美元的速卖通垫 + 头带

>>109477097

Anyone got any experience with Heavys?

有人有过Heavy的经验吗？

I see a lot of positive reviews, except when I get on Reddit. Everyone there seems to be having a complete meltdown

我看到很多正面评论，除了在 Reddit 上的时候。那里的每个人似乎都彻底崩溃了

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>>109486026

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnFON_L7PCk

avoid, reddit is mad but they are right, i wouldnt be supriesed if parto of good reviews are boted

避免，Reddit 很生气，但他们是对的，如果部分好评被忽略，我不会感到惊讶

>>109483837

u can order from japan thru amazon or sites like zenmarket, in some cases due to cheap yen it can be cheaper than buying something japan made from local distributor, i bought elecom trackball that way and everything went smoothly

你可以通过亚马逊或 zenmarket 等网站从日本订购，在某些情况下，由于日元便宜，它可能比从当地经销商那里购买日本制造的东西更便宜，我通过这种方式购买了 elecom 轨迹球，一切都很顺利

>>109477364

seems like qa quality is worse with cheaper products, they usually have good press for more expensive stuff. But at that price for planars u can try chinkfiman sundara, editions xs (and quality is more random but if u get good unit its just that chinkfiman sound that can sound impressive at times), maybe moondrop para 2 could be an option, this one is more expensive but didnt seen any obvious quality problems and driver by itself is pretty capable, good for pad rolling and eq if u need it

似乎便宜的产品质量较差，他们通常对更昂贵的产品有很好的报道。但以这个价格，你可以尝试 chinkfiman sundara，xs 版本（质量更加随机，但如果你得到好的设备，它只是 chinkfiman 的声音，有时听起来令人印象深刻），也许 Moondrop para 2 可能是一个选择，这个更贵，但没有看到任何明显的质量问题，驱动器本身非常有能力，适合垫滚动和 eq 如果你需要它

>>109483629

new playstation headsets are pretty good, inzone h9, h6 air, they are using drivers from sony's audiophile headphones. for wireless stuff i would go for anything that has app with good parametric eq build

新的PlayStation耳机相当不错，inzone h9、h6 air，它们使用的是索尼发烧级耳机的驱动程序。对于无线产品，我会选择任何具有良好参数均衡器构建的应用程序

>>109479447

I've been using them for the past 9 months and they're definitely as good as everybody says yes.

过去 9 个月我一直在使用它们，它们确实像大家说的那样好。

>>109486128

>seems like qa quality is worse with cheaper products, they usually have good press for more expensive stuff.

>似乎便宜的产品质量较差，他们通常对更昂贵的产品有很好的报道。

like what? the k9 pro their le epic aio was just dying in 13m, convientially outside the 12m warranty on a $800 product, all i ever see from fiio buyers is dongles and those snapping budget planars

像什么？ k9 pro 他们的 le epic aio 在 1300 万年后就死了，通常超出了 800 美元产品的 1200 万保修期，我从 fiio 买家那里看到的只是适配器和那些折断预算的平板电脑

>>109479746

>Takes like 20 mins to do that to DT770.

> 完成 DT770 大约需要 20 分钟。

...if you know how to solder already and are willing to fuck up your warranty and shit, not everybody is into that, retard.

...如果你已经知道如何焊接并且愿意搞砸你的保修和狗屎，不是每个人都喜欢这个，弱智。

>i dont trust anything they make since being bought out by china

>自从被中国收购以来我不相信他们制造的任何东西

these came out like a month after the acquisition, very unlikely they weren't designed by beyer themselves, the dt 240 pro (its predecessor with similar sound signature) came out all the way back in 2018 and that was also made in china, dt 770/700 and other beyer headphones are also pretty much just assembled in germany and nothing more, the fact they're made in china means absolutely nothing and the 770s are also full of qc and build quality issues if that's your concern.

这些产品在收购后一个月就出来了，不太可能不是拜尔自己设计的，dt 240 pro（具有类似声音特征的前身）早在 2018 年就已经问世了，而且也是中国制造的，dt 770/700 和其他拜尔耳机也几乎只是在德国组装，仅此而已，它们是中国制造的事实绝对没有任何意义，770s 也充满了质量控制和质量控制。如果您担心的话，请构建质量问题。

you're literally just saying made in china = bad and that's it, but that's not how any of this works, the place of manufacturing generally has no bearing on the actual quality of the product and the "made in germany" on other beyer headphones is just a marketing gimmick when all the parts are from china as well, what a retard.

你实际上只是说中国制造=不好，就是这样，但这不是它的工作原理，制造地点通常与产品的实际质量无关，而其他拜尔耳机上的“德国制造”只是一个营销噱头，因为所有零件也都来自中国，真是一个迟钝的人。

>>109486173

like with ft5 and ft7 planar headphones, on the other hand u might be right, i forget about their source gear, in my case i didnt have problems with their DAPs but i can recall few post on headfi about devices dying after software updates and so on.

就像 ft5 和 ft7 平面耳机一样，另一方面，你可能是对的，我忘记了他们的源设备，就我而言，他们的 DAP 没有问题，但我记得 headfi 上很少有关于设备在软件更新后死亡的帖子等等。

For me Fiio is still above stuff like topping, xduoo, hifiman but in general good practice before buying anything from china is to research bit more than 2-3 most popular yt reviews, usually headfi threads are good for finding long term problems with gear

对我来说，Fiio 仍然高于 topping、xduoo、hifiman 之类的东西，但总的来说，在从中国购买任何东西之前，最好的做法是研究超过 2-3 个最受欢迎的 yt 评论，通常 headfi 线程有助于发现装备的长期问题

my energy reference 22's have dead tweeters and it's about $500 cad to get them fixed (200x2+shipping)

我的 Energy Reference 22 的高音扬声器坏了，修复它们大约需要 500 加元（200x2+运费）

i wonder if its even worth it to try or something else in that price range would just be better

我想知道它是否值得尝试，或者这个价格范围内的其他东西会更好

>>109486199

i see, it would be hard to be as bad as topping and hifiman that is quite true. As for their amps it just seems like a nightmare overall, i mean they used the akm fire to revise the k9 pro with ess and add holes to the case and it was still failing constantly, some said bad solder jobs, some said they couldnt even fix them because they were too far gone, shame really

我明白了，很难像 topping 和 hifiman 那样糟糕，这是事实。至于他们的放大器，总体来说似乎是一场噩梦，我的意思是他们使用 akm fire 来修改 k9 pro 和 ess 并在外壳上添加孔，但它仍然不断失败，有些人说焊接工作不好，有些人说他们甚至无法修复它们，因为它们已经太远了，真的很遗憾

but hey at least it didnt explode headphones like that topping amp

但嘿，至少它没有像顶级放大器那样爆炸耳机

>>109486128

>new playstation headsets are pretty good

>新的游戏机耳机相当不错

this is literally what i'm trying to get away from. they don't have enough bass, the speakers are some kind of weird magnetic thing that sounds like it's popping and is very tinny, and the build quality is horrible. I've been very careful with these and the arm is about to snap from just wearing it on my head

这确实是我想要摆脱的。他们没有足够的低音，扬声器是某种奇怪的磁性物体，听起来像是在爆裂，而且非常细小，而且构建质量很糟糕。我对这些非常小心，光是把它戴在头上，手臂就快要折断了

>>109486696

these models use normal dynamic drivers, if u need tougher build it comes at cost of more weight

这些模型使用正常的动态驱动器，如果您需要更坚固的构造，则需要付出更大的重量代价

Check gadgetry tech yt channel, he has pretty good headset reviews.

检查 gadgetry tech yt 频道，他对耳机的评论非常好。

>>109486759

is this not the new one?

这不是新的吗？

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>>109486852

i was talking about that shit, and about H9

我正在谈论那个狗屎，还有H9

Also u can check wireless headsets and closed back stuff will be more bass heavy if u like it

您还可以检查无线耳机，如果您喜欢的话，封闭式耳机的低音会更重

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwqZ1H3TLEE

Why does everyone recommend the FT1? From what I've seen, they seem to self destruct after a year of use.

为什么大家都推荐FT1？据我所知，它们在使用一年后似乎会自毁。

Any other recommendations for a closed back under $200? Preferably warm

200 美元以下的封闭式还有其他推荐吗？最好是温暖的

>>109488165

For closed back it's probably as good as it gets in this price range. I would pay more for hd480 pro or went with iems

对于封闭式的，它可能是这个价格范围内最好的。我会花更多钱购买 hd4​​80 pro 或选择 iem

>>109477097

What's the meta on open ear bluetooth earphones? What's the better between the clip style ones (pearlclip) and the hook style ones (v30i)?

开耳式蓝牙耳机的元是什么？夹式（pearlclip）和钩式（v30i）哪个更好？

Budget is around 100$ (10kinr). I broke my oneplus buds pro2 and hence need to upgrade quick but there are too many fucking options across all price ranges

预算约为 100 美元（10kinr）。我弄坏了我的 OnePlus Buds Pro2，因此需要快速升级，但在所有价格范围内有太多他妈的选择

>>109488165

Beyerdynamic DT 270 Pro

拜亚动力 DT 270 Pro

Been rocking the lily audio genesis one for a couple months now and theyre fantastic, but I feel like I'm missing out on what they can do after reading a bunch of reviews saying you need a decent speaker amp to really drive them to their full potential. The early posts on the kickstarter page said my jotunheim 3 was strong enough to drive it but it doesn't get very loud, and I really don't wanna drop another couple hundred on another amp.

已经摇晃百合音频创世纪几个月了，它们非常棒，但在阅读了一堆评论后，我觉得我错过了它们可以做的事情，这些评论说你需要一个像样的扬声器放大器才能真正发挥它们的全部潜力。 Kickstarter 页面上的早期帖子说我的 jotunheim 3 足够强大，可以驱动它，但声音不会很大，而且我真的不想在另一个放大器上再放几百个。

This is one power hungry fuck, wut do?

这是一场权力饥渴的操蛋，怎么办？

Sensitivity

75 dB/V (at 1 kHz)

Recommended AMP

推荐的放大器

>10 V output

>10V 输出

>>109488801

Deva Pro?

德瓦专业版？

>>109490112

Earphones not headphones. 4chan doesn't allow me to post images. Search for soundcore v20i or soundpeats pearclip.

耳机不是耳机。 4chan 不允许我发布图片。搜索 soundcore v20i 或 soundpeats pearclip。

Why? Headphones are too bulky for my usecase (random calls in office, light gym/runs, casual use in general). And particularly, this is way over budget

为什么？耳机对于我的使用场景来说太大了（办公室随机通话、轻型健身房/跑步、一般休闲使用）。特别是，这远远超出了预算

>NAD 3020i amp

>NAD 3020i 功放

>NAD 5420 cd player

>NAD 5420 CD机

>NAD 6150C cassette deck

>NAD 6150C 卡式录音机

>Monitor Audio R352 speakers

>监听音频R352扬声器

how did I do? now I just need a receiver

我做得怎么样？现在我只需要一个接收器

附件: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1786126395268392.webm

>he fell for the planar meme

>他爱上了平面迷因

it was me. I wouldn't have bought new headphones if the cables on my hd 650 didn't shit the bed annually. They're not bad headphones at all, they just don't live up to the hype.

是我。如果我的 hd 650 上的耳机线每年都在床上拉屎的话，我就不会买新耳机了。它们根本不是坏耳机，只是没有达到宣传的效果。

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1786127409600346.jpg

I want to upgrade my c1 movie watching experience. I asked ai for recs within my budget+room size+movie/music choices and it gave me this-

我想升级我的c1观影体验。我向人工智能询问了我的预算+房间大小+电影/音乐选择范围内的建议，它给了我这个-

1. Denon x1800h avr

1.天龙x1800h avr

2. Wharfedale 12.1

2. 沃夫代尔 12.1

Next step- wharf 12.c, 12.0, and a sub

下一步 - wharf 12.c、12.0 和 sub

Good recs or ai is hallucinating?

好的recs还是ai产生了幻觉？

Thanks.

>>109488801

>>109490267

>earphones

>inr

>>>/g/iemg

dear miku how loud rikki six be if connect four eight ohm units in series to computer left headphone channel

亲爱的miku，如果将四个八欧姆单元串联到计算机左耳机通道，rikki 6 的声音会有多大

>>109493183

>miku

ah miku ah porn didly dudly delulu porn celebrity star cum

ah miku ah 色情 didly dudly delulu 色情名人明星暨

>>109490510

>Fosi i5

>佛斯i5

lmao

>the cables on my hd 650 shit the bed annually

>我的 HD 650 上的电缆每年都会拉屎

wtf are you doing

你在做什么？

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1786153430194587.png

my headphones can run off of my motherboard completely fine but I'd still like to get an amp for convenient EQ/volume control, should I just get something cheap like the fosi q4?

我的耳机可以在主板上运行得很好，但我仍然想买一个放大器来方便地进行均衡器/音量控制，我应该买一些像 fosi q4 这样便宜的东西吗？

>its 2026 and people are still willingly denting their skulls and creating bald spots in order to hear pleasant sound.

> 到了 2026 年，人们仍然心甘情愿地凹陷他们的头骨并制造秃点，以便听到悦耳的声音。

we've already moved passed this as a species it's time to buy an iem

我们作为一个物种已经超越了这个，是时候购买一个入耳式耳机了

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1786158634726306.png

>>109477364

Fiio is absolute memeshit quality and i've had two of their dacs die within two years each but i'm uncertain if this is just how chinkshit in general works

Fiio 绝对是 memeshit 品质，我已经有两个他们的 DAC 在两年内就死掉了，但我不确定这是否就是一般的 chinkshit 的运作方式

>>109490510

kek, planars are good for certain kind of sound but this one had so much problems that it is just meme

kek，平面对于某些类型的声音很有用，但是这个有太多问题，所以它只是模因

>>109488165

Seconding the closed back Beyers. Superior build quality, and replaceable parts. Though I'd go with the 770 Pro instead, for larger ear cups.

Seconding the closed back Beyers. Superior build quality, and replaceable parts.不过我会选择 770 Pro，因为它有更大的耳罩。

I bought a chinese headphone once for being good value and popular among reviewers

我曾经买过一个中国耳机，因为它物有所值并且受到评论者的欢迎

Never again

再也不会了

>>109494581

iems will never comapre to headphones i like iems but would never use them unless im out of the house where carrying headphones is annoying

入耳式耳机永远不会与耳机相提并论，我喜欢入耳式耳机，但永远不会使用它们，除非我走出家门，因为带着耳机很烦人

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1786196789184600.gif

I watched a Edifier R1280DB unbox and the video mentioned you can't control the volume from the OS. You have to use the knob. Is that the case for all the speakers with knobs?

我观看了漫步者 R1280DB 拆箱，视频中提到您无法通过操作系统控制音量。你必须使用旋钮。所有带旋钮的音箱都是这样吗？

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1786201474414855.jpg

>>109498620

You can control the volume from the OS with the non- db version on windows. If you use a tv it can be different story depending on their spyware OS garbage.

您可以通过 Windows 上的非 db 版本的操作系统控制音量。如果您使用电视，情况可能会有所不同，具体取决于其间谍软件操作系统垃圾。

Still I wouldnt rec them since the power supply broke only after a few years

但我还是不会接受它们，因为几年后电源就坏了

>>109498802

I don't know much about speakers so when I prompted gpt I was told anything with cable cant be controlled by an OS unless it has a usb connection. Is that true?

我对扬声器不太了解，所以当我提示 gpt 时，我被告知任何带有电缆的东西都不能由操作系统控制，除非它有 USB 连接。这是真的吗？

>>109498909

Active speaker vol control works same as with headphones connected to a jack, eg the OS can control the volume with headphones

有源扬声器音量控制的工作原理与连接到插孔的耳机相同，例如操作系统可以使用耳机控制音量

Passive speakers then require an amp between the pc and the speakers and I never used that setup.

无源扬声器需要在电脑和扬声器之间安装一个放大器，但我从未使用过该设置。

>>109498620

maybe i'm retarded, but can't you just set the volume knob to the max (or whichever maximum volume you're comfortable with) and then control the volume through the os? should achieve the same end result, you're just doing the volume adjustment in a fully digital manner (which isn't really an issue especially if you're outputting 24/32 bits)

也许我是弱智，但你不能将音量旋钮设置为最大（或你觉得舒服的最大音量），然后通过操作系统控制音量吗？应该达到相同的最终结果，您只是以全数字方式进行音量调整（这并不是真正的问题，特别是如果您输出 24/32 位）

>Is that the case for all the speakers with knobs?

>所有带旋钮的音箱都是这样吗？

well the creative pebble v3/pro have usb volume control with the os plus a knob (that rotates freely rather than a set range), adjusting the physical knob adjusts your windows volume (you'll see the volume flyout like when doing so through your keyboard) so i guess not, probably not as common in bookshelf speakers though.

好吧，创造性的 pebble v3/pro 有 USB 音量控制，带有操作系统和旋钮（可以自由旋转而不是设定范围），调整物理旋钮可以调整您的 Windows 音量（您会看到音量弹出按钮，就像通过键盘执行此操作一样），所以我想不会，但可能在书架扬声器中并不常见。

>>109477097

Got these two weeks ago and I have been pleasanly surprised at the overall quality

两周前收到的，我对整体质量感到惊喜

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1786218811195025.png

>>109501114

>yet more non-replaceable pleather ewaste from akg

> akg 还有更多不可更换的仿皮废品

>>109501261

>non replaceable

>不可更换

>Literally can be replaced by taking them out

>实际上可以通过取出来更换

>>109479366

>AKG K371

>terrible QC and build quality

>糟糕的质量控制和建造质量

Is this still the case? I was looking for something better than my DT 770s.

现在还是这样吗？我一直在寻找比我的 DT 770 更好的东西。

>>109501470

taking them out and actually replacing them are two very different things

取出它们和实际更换它们是两件截然不同的事情

can you provide a link to purchase the genuine oem replacement pads for these? oh yeah you can't.

您能提供购买正品 OEM 替换垫的链接吗？哦，是的，你不能。

>inb4 just get generic aliexpress pads

>inb4 只是获得通用速卖通垫

not only is that guaranteed to ruin the sound signature of any headphone but in this case the anc is going to get fucked as well, which is almost the entire point of these headphones

这不仅会破坏任何耳机的声音特征，而且在这种情况下，ANC 也会被搞砸，这几乎就是这些耳机的全部意义

retard.

>>109498620

Most desktop powered speakers like that come with a remote, you can see it in your picture.

大多数类似的桌面供电扬声器都配有遥控器，您可以在图片中看到它。

>>109501505

>I was looking for something better than my DT 770s.

>我一直在寻找比我的 DT 770 更好的东西。

there is nothing better they are peak

没有什么比他们正值巅峰了

>>109498620

You can control everything from the OS, it's just most active speakers hiss so you'll want to have the OS volume as high as possible and speaker volume as low as possible.

您可以通过操作系统控制一切，这只是大多数活动扬声器的嘶嘶声，因此您需要将操作系统音量设置得尽可能高，而扬声器音量尽可能低。

recommnded EQ settings for the Fiio FT1? using easyeffects if it matters

Fiio FT1 推荐的 EQ 设置？如果重要的话使用 easyeffects

>>109501505

>>terrible QC and build quality

>>质量控制和建造质量很糟糕

It's false. I gave mine to my sister and they survived a rough environment.

这是假的。我把我的给了姐姐，她们在恶劣的环境中生存下来。

Are they *fantastic* in terms of toughness? no. those sony mdr whatever the v whatever are much tougher.

它们的韧性“出色”吗？不。那些索尼 MDR 无论如何 v 任何东西都要严格得多。

can i do better than he1000 stealth for $1k or less?

我能以 1000 美元或更少的价格做比 he1000 Stealth 更好的事情吗？

>>109504692

moondrop skyland, moondrop cosmo, probably dan clark stuff, fiio ft7. But i doubt any of that will beat he1000 airy sound (for me its too bright but i have to say, with certain kind of music is implessive), if u are brave enough u can get 3d printed headphones with hifiman susvara drivers from aliexpress, sold under brands like xk-audio fluxion or efep

Moondrop Skyland、Moondrop Cosmo、可能是 dan Clark 的东西、Fiio FT7。但我怀疑其中任何一个都无法击败he1000空灵的声音（对我来说它太明亮了，但我不得不说，某些类型的音乐是无意义的），如果你足够勇敢，你可以从速卖通购买带有hifiman susvara驱动器的3D打印耳机，以xk-audio Fluxion或efep等品牌出售

And thats for planars

这就是平面的

For DDs u can go with focals or hedd audio D1, also new Aune AR5000mk2 and AR9000

对于 DD，您可以选择 Focus 或 Hedd Audio D1，还有新的 Aune AR5000mk2 和 AR9000

>>109503259

I got ft1

我得到了 ft1

The plastic part around the headband adjustment mechanism broke on its own over time on Both sides in 2 years, and its currently being held together by duct tape.

随着时间的推移，头带调节机构周围的塑料部件在两年内两侧自行断裂，目前用胶带将其固定在一起。

You'd think the headphone industry had figured out headband adjustment mechanisms by now or something.

你可能会认为耳机行业现在已经找到了头带调整机制之类的。

I dont use eq settings they sound fine.

我不使用 eq 设置，它们听起来不错。

>>109490510

>if the cables on my hd 650 didn't shit the bed annually

>如果我的 HD 650 上的电缆每年都不会拉屎

what are you doing to those poor cables? My original 650 cable lasted 5 years before it broke

你对那些劣质电缆做了什么？我原来的 650 电缆用了 5 年才坏

Bros, I scored this factory new PX100 in an auction for 50 bucks. I'm so happy.

兄弟，我在拍卖会上以 50 美元的价格买下了这台出厂的全新 PX100。我太高兴了。

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god fucking damn i want to buy the 490 PRO but I'm afraid I won't like it

该死的我想买 490 PRO 但我担心我不喜欢它

For me? Stax

为我？ 斯塔克斯

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1786285422941317.jpg

i ordered the sheepskin brainwavz pads for hd600 and the xl round ones for my akgs and x2

我为 hd600 订购了羊皮 Brainwavz 垫，为我的 akgs 和 x2 订购了 XL 圆形垫

let's see how they are, I got some regular brainwavz pads for my rp-htf600s, which are pretty decent in terms of comfort, cant get the tone right though

让我们看看它们怎么样，我为我的 rp-htf600s 买了一些常规的 Brainwavz 打击垫，在舒适度方面相当不错，但无法获得正确的音调

might splurge on some iems and Sony MDR-ZX110 too

可能还会花一些钱购买一些入耳式耳机和索尼 MDR-ZX110

we'll see

走着瞧

>>109504692

I'm pretty happy with my verum 2 and some eq. Haven't heard the he1000 so can't compare them directly but the timbre and imaging on the verum is really impressive once you tune it to preference.

我对我的 verum 2 和一些 eq 非常满意。还没有听过 he1000，所以无法直接比较它们，但是一旦您将其调至您的偏好，其音色和结像确实令人印象深刻。

not an audio expert by any means but after I accidentally broke the analog out of my motherboard I had to resort to Apple's dongle DAC for my DT 770 Pros and the audio sounds flatter. Would a better DAC help with this?

无论如何，我都不是音频专家，但在我不小心破坏了主板上的模拟功能后，我不得不为我的 DT 770 Pro 求助于 Apple 的适配器 DAC，并且音频听起来更平坦。更好的 DAC 对此有帮助吗？

>>109508927

yeah apple dongle doesnt have enough headroom especially if youre in the eu

是的，苹果适配器没有足够的空间，特别是如果你在欧盟

its more of an amp problem than a dac problem but all dongles are 2 in 1

与其说是DAC问题，不如说是放大器问题，但所有适配器都是二合一

you're also limited by usb power

你也受到 USB 电源的限制

>>109508956

>especially if youre in the eu

>特别是如果您在欧盟

Great, I love this place. Should I start looking for a proper amp then?

太棒了，我喜欢这个地方。那么我应该开始寻找合适的放大器吗？

>>109509006

yeah that or gamble on an aliexpress dongle's longevity.

是的，或者赌一下速卖通加密狗的寿命。

there are some affordable dacamps around or under 100 bucks by topping and the likes, anything more would be overkill for a DT 770 and might not outperform a 20 euro dongle anyways but having a proper knob is nice

有一些经济实惠的 dacamp 价格在 100 美元左右或低于 100 美元（按顶部等计算），对于 DT 770 来说，再多一点就有点过分了，而且可能不会比 20 欧元的适配器更好，但有一个合适的旋钮就很好了

>>109507659

I had the pro and it was great, only thing that sounded better were large planars. But those 490's will last a lifetime they are built like a rock.

我有专业版，它很棒，唯一听起来更好的是大平面。但 490 的坚固耐用，坚固如磐石。

>>109509006

u can buy dongle but with more power, i think even jcally jm6 pro will be enough. U can ored most of that shit from aliexpress or chinks stores with audio like shenzenaudio, hifigo, linsoul. Desktop DAC/AMP combo will be bit more expensive but will offer more power and probably more pleasing experience

你可以购买加密狗，但功率更大，我想即使是 jcally jm6 pro 也足够了。你可以从 Aliexpress 或 chinks 商店购买大部分此类内容，其中包括 Shenzenaudio、hifigo、linsoul 等音频。桌面 DAC/AMP 组合会更贵一些，但会提供更大的功率和可能更令人愉悦的体验

>>109509660

Thanks I could probably snag the jcally jm6 pros for 20 euros or future-proof with a proper dac/amp but I don't want to drop more than 100 right now.

谢谢，我可能可以花 20 欧元购买 jcally jm6 pro，或者使用合适的 dac/amp 来满足未来需求，但我现在不想花超过 100 欧元。

>>109509744

double check required power because i didnt used it with high ohm headpones. For bit more u have dongles like moondrop pro 2 or crinear protocol max with build in eq and more power. U can also find on aliexpress cheap full size headhpone amplifiers for less than 100usd, under brands like Douk Audio (but u need to do bit more research what is worth buying)

仔细检查所需的功率，因为​​我没有将其与高欧姆耳机一起使用。如果您想获得更多功能，您可以使用 Moondrop Pro 2 或 crinear Protocol Max 等加密狗，内置 eq 和更强大的功能。您还可以在全球速卖通上找到 Douk Audio 等品牌的廉价全尺寸耳机放大器，价格不到 100 美元（但您需要做更多研究什么值得购买）

>>109504814

>the price of this cable

>该电缆的价格

holy fucking shit what is this? Do audioniggers really?

天哪，这是什么？音频黑鬼真的吗？

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1786312020674306.png

>>109511356

Oh that's just the tip of the iceberg. Audiophools have far more money than brains.

哦，这只是冰山一角。音响爱好者的钱远比大脑多。

>>109509584

Beware the dumbass grill covers they slip right off and are likely to be lost. Mine has none atm am straight rawdogging it

小心愚蠢的烤架盖，它们会直接滑落并且很可能丢失。我的没有自动提款机，直接原始处理它

>>109511356

Wait till you find out about "quantum stickers"

等你了解“量子贴纸”

Have had these for a few weeks now and really do enjoy them. Looking to make a upgrade to my amp later in the year (currently a THX AAA 789).

已经吃了几个星期了，真的很喜欢它们。希望在今年晚些时候升级我的放大器（目前是 THX AAA 789）。

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1786328554761045.jpg

>>109504692

>>109504814

so i ended up ordering the D1 in the end, thanks for the recommendations to look through.

所以我最终订购了D1，感谢您的推荐。

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>>109513965

keep it mind it will be neutral kind of sound, if u like v shape or bass boost that can be problem. But really good choice, from that list if i had to buy something it would be either D1 or Aune stuff, im bit tired of planar sound (tho i have to say, if u never tried good planar it can be impressive at times, same with good multidriver IEMs)

请记住，这将是中性的声音，如果您喜欢 V 形或低音增强，则可能会出现问题。但确实是不错的选择，从这个列表中如果我必须买一些东西，那就是 D1 或 Aune 的东西，我有点厌倦了平面声音（不过我不得不说，如果你从未尝试过好的平面声音，它有时会令人印象深刻，与好的多驱动器 IEM 一样）

As for cables its still in lower tier of snake oil cables. If u ever need audiphile cables with thicker and more premium look u can find lots of that stuff on aliexpress for fraction of that price

至于电缆，它仍然处于蛇油电缆的较低层。如果您需要更厚、更高档的音响电缆，您可以在全球速卖通上找到很多这样的东西，价格仅为该价格的一小部分

>>109514225

I like neutral sound. My other favorite headphone is the 490 pro. Once I got a taste of honest sound I cant go back to muffled bass boosted crap. besides, I could always eq it..

我喜欢中性的声音。我最喜欢的另一款耳机是 490 pro。一旦我尝到了诚实的声音，我就无法再回到低沉的低音增强废话了。此外，我总是可以 eq 它..

>>109514225

Also I have less than zero interest in expensive cables. I don't believe for one moment that it's going to affect sound quality at all.

而且我对昂贵的电缆的兴趣不到零。我一点也不相信它会影响音质。

>>109514663

i meant around 20-30USD range cables, I am not talking about how they sound because thats meme. They are just nicer to work with than stock cables in some cases. 300usd cable isnt even that expensive if u dive into weird audiophile snake oil shit

我的意思是大约 20-30 美元范围的电缆，我不是在谈论它们听起来如何，因为那是模因。在某些情况下，它们比普通电缆更适合使用。如果你沉迷于奇怪的发烧级蛇油狗屎，300美元的电缆甚至没有那么贵

490 pro is really good headpos. I almost think that if u plan to use 490 pro with ur new headpos it would be better choice to go with something planar driver, just for sake of change.

490 pro确实是个好耳机。我几乎认为，如果您计划将 490 pro 与您的新耳机一起使用，那么使用平面驱动器会是更好的选择，只是为了改变。

>>109482024

I own these. fully gold skullcandy stolen from a clothing store mannequin back in 2008? iirc these were never officially on retail. good luck finding one today

我拥有这些。 2008 年从服装店模特身上偷来的全金色骷髅糖果？ iirc 这些从未正式零售。祝你今天找到一个好运

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>>109517333

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>>109515513

Yeah ive been a bit apprehensive cause I keep hearing about how easy it is to break planars and how they start crinkling after a few years. im not the most careful or easy on his stuff owner either, I would be butthurt spending 1k+ on a headphone that only lasts 2 years instead of 20+

是的，我有点担心，因为我不断听说平面板是多么容易破裂，以及几年后它们如何开始起皱。我对他的东西主人也不是最小心或最容易的，我会花 1000+ 买一个只能持续 2 年而不是 20+ 的耳机

>>109507491

They're pretty great, I got some used for £40 because they were my childhood headphones

它们非常棒，我花了 40 英镑买了一些，因为它们是我儿时的耳机

>>109517333

Neat piece of consumer audio history if nothing else

如果没有别的的话，这是消费者音频历史的一部分

>>109517342

yeap, they are more fragile but you cant destroy it by puting fingers in wrong place. What can kill them:

是的，它们更脆弱，但你不能通过将手指放在错误的位置来破坏它。什么可以杀死他们：

-drop from desk

-从桌子上掉下来

-moisture so no using it after shower or in super hot and humid weather

- 潮湿，因此淋浴后或超级炎热潮湿的天气下请勿使用

-u need to be gentle when put them on your head, especially when pads are not vented with holes, pressure spike can crinkle drivers or even rip them

- 将它们戴在头上时需要轻柔，尤其是当垫子没有通气孔时，压力尖峰可能会使驱动器起皱甚至撕裂它们

But im using them for years and nothing happens

但我使用它们很多年了却没有任何反应

went back to my old O2 for the lulz after years of running a Singxer SA-1

运行 Singxer SA-1 多年后，又回到我的旧 O2 享受乐趣

output power aside, I'm pretty sure it's just as good

除了输出功率之外，我很确定它同样好

figures

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>>109519241

was the singxer modded or not and did you run it balanced?

singxer 是否经过改装？您是否平衡运行过它？

>>109519241

I've been running my (lightly modded) O2 for ages and it's still great. The original BOM is a bit dated but the design holds up fine.

我已经运行我的（轻度改装的）O2 多年了，它仍然很棒。最初的 BOM 有点过时，但设计还不错。

>>109519912

no and yes

不和是

>>109477097

Is it normal for Sennheiser headphones to smell like Zyklon B or whatever other chemical when opening and wearing them?

Sennheiser 耳机在打开和佩戴时闻起来有 Zyklon B 或任何其他化学物质的气味，这正常吗？

It seems the chemicals and VOC they use for sealing the driver or manufacturing the earpads causes me allergic migraine aura and airway irritation(esp my throat) symptoms, it's not quite like migraine sufferers who get awful headaches for hours from VOCs but bad enough to confirm that at least their HD 480 PRO models emit harmful levels of VOCs and a bad smell.

他们用于密封驱动器或制造耳垫的化学物质和 VOC 似乎导致了我过敏性偏头痛先兆和气道刺激（尤其是我的喉咙）症状，这不像偏头痛患者会因 VOC 而头痛几个小时，但足以确认至少他们的 HD 480 PRO 型号会散发出有害水平的 VOC 和难闻的气味。

Anyone else in the same case? wether the smell distracted you or gave you full on migraines, i'm certain it *is* Sennheiser's fault, no other headphone brand did this to me or smelled like that, googling it i could find people complaining about similar problems on their Momentum and 6xx series.

还有其他人有同样的情况吗？无论这种气味让你分心还是让你感到偏头痛，我确信这是森海塞尔的错，没有其他耳机品牌对我做过这样的事情或闻起来像那样，谷歌搜索我可以找到人们抱怨他们的 Momentum 和 6xx 系列的类似问题。

>>109520171

you could try the jumper mod and see if it makes a difference but it voids the warranty

您可以尝试跳线模组，看看是否有什么不同，但它会使保修失效

>>109517839

>drop from desk

>从桌子上掉下来

Unlikely but maybe

不太可能，但也许

>moisture so no using it after shower or in super hot and humid weather

> 潮湿，因此淋浴后或超级炎热潮湿的天气下请勿使用

I live in Georgia. Hell swamp. Not ideal

我住在佐治亚州。地狱沼泽。不理想

>be gentle

> 温柔点

I know id mess up eventually cause im not careful with headphones

我知道我最终会搞砸，因为我不小心使用耳机

>>109520597

I heard HEDD smells like a chemical waste dump too and both are made in Germany so that might just be a German thing.

我听说 HEDD 闻起来也像化学废物堆，而且都是德国制造的，所以这可能只是德国的东西。

>>109521062

it's no longer under warranty so I might as well open it up but I have a feeling the jumper mod is just another one of head-fi's hallucinations

它已经不在保修期内了，所以我不妨打开它，但我有一种感觉，跳线模组只是 head-fi 的又一个幻觉

>>109517517

sound on them is just decent but yeah, pretty cool these have lasted since middle school.

它们的声音还不错，但是，是的，很酷，这些从中学开始就一直存在。

i simply refuse to buy any headphones made in china

我根本拒绝购买任何中国制造的耳机

>>109522813

What if it's designed in Los Angeles or Germany?

如果它是在洛杉矶或德国设计的怎么办？

>>109522813

Narrows down your options to Grados, certain Focals, a couple of flagship Denons and Fostexes, and making your own Capra Audio build with self-sourced parts and a 3D printer, basically

将您的选择范围缩小到 Grados、某些 Focals、一些旗舰 Denons 和 Fostexes，并使用自产部件和 3D 打印机制作您自己的 Capra Audio 构建，基本上

>>109523059

Focal is a scam, they said on some audiofool factory tour video that their headphone QC ensures the headphones do not have more than 0.5db imbalance

Focal是个骗局，他们在一些audiofool工厂参观视频中说他们的耳机QC确保耳机不超过0.5db不平衡

When i bought their Lensys(couldn't find Azurys and preferred the color anyway) what i got is 1 to 1.5db imbalance, centered sounds that seemed to always come from the northeast/northwest and headphones so small and tight i'd believe it was built for multicentenary 142cm nojalolis, at least the sound was decent if you ignored the dip at 2khz and weirdness near 3khz and the beyer-like peak near 8.5khz.

当我买他们的Lensys（找不到Azurys并且更喜欢这个颜色）时，我得到的是1到1.5db的不平衡，集中的声音似乎总是来自东北/西北，耳机又小又紧，我相信它是为百年142厘米的nojalolis打造的，如果你忽略2khz的下降和3khz附近的怪异以及附近类似拜尔的峰值，至少声音还不错。 8.5khz。

Hopefully the refund process went smoothly, also if you want to buy earpads you have to contact them and pray it's in stock and it won't be out of stock for months, awful experience.

希望退款过程顺利，如果你想买耳垫，你必须联系他们并祈祷有货，并且不会缺货几个月，糟糕的经历。

The only good thing is the aesthetics and the timbre??

唯一好的就是美观和音色？

Also for some reason the azurys has been out of stock or difficult to find for months even in france, wtf is happening at Focal?? they lie and act like they don't even try to make and sell things...

另外，由于某种原因，azurys 已经缺货或很难找到，甚至在法国也很难找到，wtf 发生在 Focal 吗？他们撒谎，表现得好像他们根本不尝试制造和销售东西......

>>109523155

Manufacturing your own shit in yurop is basically impossible

在尤罗普制造自己的狗屎基本上是不可能的

Also they're fr*nch

他们也是法国人

I just bought some used speakers off eBay, they are on the way and I don't really care if they are hi-fi approved, but apparently they are "5.1". Now, I didn't really understand this at the time of ordering, but apparently this means my music and old ass dos and ps1 games might not support this feature. I honestly assumed the extra speakers didn't need extra audio, but apparently all my stuff now needs center, back, and subwoofer audio channels? So what will happen? Will my random music off of Soulseek sound inconsistent with my speakers? Will my dos games sound flat in comparison? Will I need to start finding specific movie torrents with "5.1 audio"? What the fuck did I just get myself into. Even worse I'm on Linux so god only knows if I can get "5.1 audio" or whatever. Should I just unplug all the speakers besides left and right? This has made me incredibly anxious and I am honestly paralized. I might just throw them out. Please help me, I am very retarded.

我刚刚从 eBay 上买了一些二手扬声器，它们正在路上，我并不关心它们是否经过高保真认证，但显然它们是“5.1”。现在，我在订购时并没有真正理解这一点，但显然这意味着我的音乐和老屁股的 dos 和 ps1 游戏可能不支持此功能。老实说，我认为额外的扬声器不需要额外的音频，但显然我所有的东西现在都需要中置、后置和低音炮音频通道？那么会发生什么呢？ Soulseek 中的随机音乐听起来与我的扬声器不一致吗？相比之下，我的 dos 游戏听起来会平淡吗？我需要开始寻找带有“5.1 音频”的特定电影种子吗？我他妈的让自己陷入了什么困境。更糟糕的是我使用的是 Linux，所以只有上帝知道我是否可以获得“5.1 音频”或其他什么。我应该拔掉除了左右扬声器之外的所有扬声器吗？这让我非常焦虑，老实说我感到不知所措。我可能会把它们扔掉。请帮助我，我很弱智。

>>109523194

you can only plug two speakers and the subwoofer if you prefer standard stereo audio

如果您喜欢标准立体声音频，则只能插入两个扬声器和低音炮

many games support more than 2 speakers and kino torrents with dolby 5.1 audio are generally easy to find

许多游戏支持 2 个以上扬声器，并且带有杜比 5.1 音频的 kino 种子通常很容易找到

for stereo audio afaik either it will upmix to 5.1 or it will only use the LR speakers and subwoofer

对于立体声音频，据我所知，它要么将混音至 5.1，要么仅使用 LR 扬声器和低音炮

>>109523219

>many games support more than 2 speakers

>许多游戏支持2个以上扬声器

Okay, I'll just have to look into it, I mostly play doom 2 and emulate some games.

好吧，我得研究一下，我主要玩《毁灭战士 2》并模拟一些游戏。

>for stereo audio afaik either it will upmix to 5.1 or it will only use the LR speakers and subwoofer

>对于立体声音频，据我所知，它要么将混音至 5.1，要么仅使用 LR 扬声器和低音炮

Okay, so what does this mean in a practical sense? Will my "upmixxed" music sound worse? Can I find music that has full "5.1" mixing? This is my biggest concern, I listen to loads of random music from the 60s to present year, even some video game/movie rips, and lots of random garbage I find off the internet.

好吧，那么这在实际意义上意味着什么呢？我的“混合”音乐听起来会更糟吗？我可以找到具有完整“5.1”混音的音乐吗？这是我最关心的问题，我听了大量从 60 年代到现在的随机音乐，甚至一些视频游戏/电影翻录，以及我从互联网上找到的许多随机垃圾。

>>109523179

i don't think it has to do with being french, beyerdynamic has gone to shit too, i mean they have made the single worst wireless headphone ever(amiron wireless and lagoon anc) with a qualcomm dac that permanently hisses with one channel that buzzes(not a manufacturing defect, they are all like that) and now they got bought by chinese people

我不认为这与法国人有关，拜亚动力也变得很糟糕，我的意思是他们制造了有史以来最糟糕的无线耳机（amiron wireless和lagoon anc），其高通DAC会永久发出嘶嘶声，一个通道会嗡嗡作响（不是制造缺陷，他们都是这样），现在他们被中国人买了

if beyer's wireless offerings are not world's worst then i wonder how tf is it possible to do worse than that.

如果拜尔的无线产品不是世界上最差的，那么我想知道怎么可能做得比这更糟糕。

>>109523270

generally if it's not some dolby dsp it will just mean that the backleft and front left channel will play the same signal for example, at worst if you don't like it you should be able to mute or unplug the back speakers and be done with it

一般来说，如果不是杜比 DSP，则仅意味着左后和左前声道将播放相同的信号，例如，最坏的情况是，如果您不喜欢它，您应该能够静音或拔掉后置扬声器并完成它

since you're on linux the behavior should be configurable, depends

因为你在 Linux 上，所以行为应该是可配置的，具体取决于

>>109523302

What about the center speaker? Doesn't that have its own audio too?

那么中置扬声器呢？那不是也有自己的音频吗？

>>109523282

At least the Amiron Wireless introduced those foam discs that make the treble on the Tygr 300 bearable so it's made one positive contribution to the headphone world

至少 Amiron Wireless 引入了泡沫盘，使 Tygr 300 的高音变得可以忍受，因此它为耳机世界做出了一项积极的贡献

>>109477097

Oh those look really nice. Too bad they came out in 2016. Fuck you

哦，那些看起来真的很好。太糟糕了，他们是 2016 年才推出的。操你妈的

>>109523748

i just bought some whats the issue kek

我刚买了一些东西 kek

I bought sony wh-1000xm6 the other day and then 1 day later it's on sale (in the same store and everywhere else) for $90 cheaper

前几天我买了索尼 wh-1000xm6，一天后它就以便宜 90 美元的价格出售（在同一家商店和其他地方）

>>109525712

You hate to see it

你讨厌看到它

>>109477097

>wireless slop

>无线斜坡

Shame.

>>109526988

Gotta include them if you want the thread to stay alive nowadays unfortunately

不幸的是，如果你想让线程现在保持活力，就必须包括它们

>>109525712

Initiate a return and buy again for $90 i would

我愿意发起退货并以 90 美元再次购买

>picked up Digikey order with Peerless HPD-50 and OWR-4009T drivers today

>今天收到带有 Peerless HPD-50 和 OWR-4009T 驱动器的 Digikey 订单

>Recon 500 drivers came from Aliexpress a while ago

>Recon 500 司机不久前来自速卖通

>already have a pair of Peerless HPD-40 drivers from a previous Digikey order

> 已拥有之前 Digikey 订单中的一对 Peerless HPD-40 驱动器

Gonna build so many Capra designs to try for myself and probably give away to friends/family after

我会制作很多卡普拉设计来为自己尝试，然后可能会赠送给朋友/家人

>>109525712

Get a refund

获得退款

XM6 has a parmanent faint whistle on one side in anc mode, no fix aince it's an electronic design error(japanese boomer engineer didn't bother measuring his anc mic io and dac output with an audio oscilloscope)

XM6 在 ANC 模式下的一侧有永久性的微弱哨声，无法修复，因为这是电子设计错误（日本婴儿潮一代工程师没有费心用音频示波器测量他的 ANC 麦克风 IO 和 DAC 输出）

The last good anc headphones was xm4, less breaking hinges, no parasite noises, cheaper, all it needed was an upgrade to MEMS anc microphones

最后一款好的ANC耳机是XM4，铰链破损少，无寄生噪音，更便宜，只需要升级到MEMS ANC麦克风

K371 or HD 569? Coming from DT 770.

K371还是HD 569？来自 DT 770。

>>109528410

my brother has been running a K361 (which is all plastic unlike K371) daily for around 5 years now, so the K3X1 family probably has a sturdier build than people give it credit for

我哥哥每天都使用 K361（与 K371 不同，它是全塑料的）大约 5 年了，所以 K3X1 系列的结构可能比人们想象的更坚固

I'm pretty sure he never uses the TH-X00 ebony I gave him in hopes of turning him into an audiophool, too

我很确定他从来没有使用过我给他的 TH-X00 乌木，希望能把他变成一个音响爱好者

>>109528410

HD 569.

or DT 270 Pro if you have smallish ears.

如果您的耳朵较小，请选择 DT 270 Pro。

Hi soundfags, my shit's falling apart after a few years so time for something new

嗨，soundfags，几年后我的狗屎就崩溃了，所以是时候换点新东西了

>Location

America

>Budget

whatever for something decent, 150?

随便买点像样的，150？

>Previous gear and your thoughts on it

>之前的设备以及你对它的评价

Arctis 5 from SteelSeries. It wears comfortable, but the velcro head strap stretched out and inner ear pads are disintegrating, so maybe something other than velcro. No complaints on the sound. I don't want long wires or an extra volume control knob thing in the middle of them, it gets in the way, and something with a jack would be better than a USB. Are earpads usually replaceable or is the meta to junk the whole system?

SteelSeries 的 Arctis 5。佩戴起来很舒服，但尼龙搭扣头带拉长了，内耳垫也解体了，所以可能是尼龙搭扣以外的东西。对声音没有任何抱怨。我不想要长电线或中间有额外的音量控制旋钮，因为它们会妨碍，并且带有插孔的东西会比 USB 更好。耳垫通常是可更换的还是会破坏整个系统？

>What exactly you're looking for

>您到底在寻找什么

Basically above. Focus is on durability, comfort, and decent sound, I'm casual

基本上以上。重点是耐用、舒适、音质不错，我比较休闲

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>>109529183

Get the HyperX they are way better, my friend has a pair and loves them. https://a.co/d/0eUVLG7m

>>109529423

Does he have the old version with the brushed yokes and metal side plates, or the new one with smooth yokes and all plastic cups? Because the new one has no damping material in the cups anymore and that significantly changes the sound.

他有带拉丝轭架和金属侧板的旧版本，还是带有光滑轭架和全塑料杯的新版本？因为新的杯子里不再有阻尼材料，这会显着改变声音。

>>109529948

I don't know which version they are but he got them in November last year. I listened to them a few times, they sounded good to me but I'm no audiophile. He says the battery lasts weeks though which I think is a big selling point for them.

我不知道它们是什么版本，但他是去年 11 月得到的。我听了几次，他们听起来不错，但我不是发烧友。他说电池可持续使用数周，但我认为这对他们来说是一个很大的卖点。

>>109529991

Oh, it's the wireless ones. Those probably have a bunch of DSP built in so the sound between that and the current Cloud IIs is completely incomparable anyway.

噢，是无线的。这些可能内置了一堆 DSP，所以它和当前的 Cloud II 之间的声音是完全无法比拟的。

>>109529183

Steelseries and HyperX have replaceable earpads in relatively standard sizes.

Steelseries 和 HyperX 具有相对标准尺寸的可更换耳垫。

>>109529183

i've had my pc38x for probably 4-5 years and only had to change the cable once. thrown them two times into the wall and lately ive been sleeping with them and theyre still holding up. they sound fine. good tonality and imaging not as blobby as hd6xx imo

我的 pc38x 已经使用了大概 4-5 年，只需要更换一次电缆。把它们扔到墙上两次，最近我一直和它们一起睡觉，它们仍然坚持着。他们听起来不错。良好的色调和成像，不像 hd6xx 那样斑点

maybe pc38x has lower res/more diffuse imaging but at least its continuous and linear around your head. hd6xx feels more disjointed to where it has 3 strong attractors (left front right) which is a much bigger violation to me. but then some people dont hear this at all so idk. i think maybe they acclimate to it

也许 pc38x 具有较低的分辨率/更多的漫反射成像，但至少它在您的头部周围是连续且线性的。 hd6xx 感觉更加脱节，因为它有 3 个强吸引子（左前右），这对我来说是一个更大的违规。但有些人根本没有听到这个，所以我不知道。我想也许他们已经适应了

>>109523059

HD600/HD800 Sennies are still made in Ireland and Germany.

HD600/HD800 Sennies 仍在爱尔兰和德国制造。

STAX is still made in Japan. Sony flagships are still japanese with slightly cheaper models manufactured in Vietnam or Thailand. There are some Taiwanese budget manufacturers as well like Superlux.

STAX仍然是日本制造的。索尼旗舰产品仍然是日本产品，价格稍便宜的型号是在越南或泰国制造的。还有一些台湾的廉价制造商，例如 Superlux。

HEDD is made in Germany.

HEDD是德国制造。

Fun Fact: China dominates the global supply chain for neodymium. Without them, no magnets for your Aryan headphones.

有趣的事实：中国在全球钕供应链中占据主导地位。没有它们，您的雅利安耳机就没有磁铁。

>>109532799

China dominates the global supply chain for pretty much everything unfortunately

不幸的是，中国几乎在所有领域都主导着全球供应链

>>109532821

Sure was nice of us to just give that away.

当然，我们把它送出去真是太好了。

>>109532860

how dare they pollute in order to make the stuff that we asked for at the low prices that we asked for though

他们怎么敢污染，以便以我们要求的低价生产我们要求的东西

>>109532895

We don't need most of that stuff, the world was better and everyone was happier when we had less stuff.

我们不需要大部分东西，当我们拥有的东西更少时，世界会变得更好，每个人都会更快乐。

>>109532901

you're right, but "we" in this instance refers to decision-makers, not you and me

你是对的，但这里的“我们”指的是决策者，而不是你和我

What's the entry level tube amp?

什么是入门级电子管放大器？

>>109532955

probably darkvoice or bottlehead crack since theyre the most popular, but personally i went for the little dot mkiii

可能是 darkvoice 或 Bottlehead裂纹，因为它们是最受欢迎的，但我个人选择了小点 mkiii

>>109532955

search for douk audio on aliexpress

在速卖通上搜索 douk 音频

>>109532955

valhalla 2 if you want otl, if you are going to gamble with chifi the last place i'd start is fucking tube amplifiers but those darkvoice incels learned their lesson on that one

瓦尔哈拉 2 如果你想要 otl，如果你要和 chifi 赌博，我最后要开始的地方就是他妈的电子管放大器，但那些暗声 incels 从中吸取了教训

>>109523059

r70x/ a bunch of at is still made in jp, audeze/dca/ for american planars, loads really. Chifi is still a joke and i can't believe people bother with the qc problems, but seeing as you posted focal i can't imagine you care about that

r70x/ 一堆 at 仍然是日本制造的，audeze/dca/ 是为美国平面设计的，真的很负载。 Chifi 仍然是一个笑话，我不敢相信人们会为质量控制问题而烦恼，但看到你发布的焦点，我无法想象你关心这个

My headphones and dongle sound better on my phone than on my PC what does it mean

我的耳机和适配器在手机上的音质比在电脑上的音质好，这是什么意思

>>109529183

if a mic/closed back isn't mandatory then used 600/6xx/650 from sennheiser are probably the best headphone to buy for longevity really, pads might wear quick but you can get a pad+earpads for $5-10 on ali, cables are cheap to replace and they sound good, you should almost always be able to find a pair used locally for that price

如果麦克风/封闭式耳机不是强制性的，那么使用森海塞尔的 600/6xx/650 可能是最好的长寿耳机，耳机垫可能磨损得很快，但你可以在 ali 上以 5-10 美元的价格买到一个耳机垫+耳垫，电缆更换起来很便宜，而且听起来不错，你几乎总能找到一对本地使用的同价位耳机

if you need closed back or a mic then you'd have to deal with the cancer that comes with both

如果你需要封闭式麦克风或麦克风，那么你就必须应对两者带来的癌症

>>109528103

I have tinnitus so I cant tell if there is a whistle or my tinnitus

我有耳鸣，所以我无法判断是口哨声还是我的耳鸣

>>109534354

doesn't anc make tinnitus worse?

anc 不会使耳鸣变得更严重吗？

My FT1 Pro are less than 1 year old and already falling apart in multiple places, but the sound is great, no bass rattle or anything, and they fit my head/ears perfectly, so I hesitate to look for a replacement. But while headbands can be easily fixed or even replaced entirely, this crack looks nasty and seems to be spreading. What do?

我的 FT1 Pro 使用还不到 1 年，多处已经散架，但声音很棒，没有低音嘎嘎声或其他任何声音，而且它们非常适合我的头/耳朵，所以我犹豫是否要寻找替代品。虽然头带可以很容易地固定甚至完全更换，但这条裂缝看起来很糟糕，而且似乎正在蔓延。做什么？

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>>109534741

as always, chinese garbage just costs more in the long run, and you could buy another and same shit would probably happen

一如既往，从长远来看，中国垃圾的成本更高，你可以再买一个，同样的事情可能会发生

>what do

>现在咋办？

if you like planars just buy aeons or lcd 2s, if they are a budget stretch buy used, getting a year out of a headphone is fucking pathetic, we have people out here with hd 600's for 20 years on a $300 headphone, idk how peoples standards got so low

如果你喜欢平面耳机，就买 aeons 或 lcd 2s，如果预算有限，买二手的，用一年的耳机真是太可怜了，我们这里有人用 300 美元的耳机用了 20 年的 hd 600，我不知道人们的标准怎么这么低

>>109534774

Just treat all chinkshit as a diy project, not a finished consumer product.

把所有的中国狗屎当作一个DIY项目，而不是一个成品。

>>109534741

do they crack due to internal stress in plastics or u are just monke?

它们是由于塑料的内应力而破裂还是你只是和尚？

>>109534361

I play something most of the time so I dont focus on the tinnitus

我大部分时间都在玩一些东西，所以我不会把注意力集中在耳鸣上

>>109534950

Never dropped them, never carried them outside etc.

从未掉落它们，从未将它们带到外面等。

I do stretch them out quite a lot sometimes when taking them off with one hand, but that can only explain sliders, not earcup cracked in a place that should not be under any internal stress.

有时，当我用一只手取下它们时，我确实将它们拉伸了很多，但这只能解释滑块，而不能解释耳罩在不应承受任何内应力的地方破裂。

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>>109535432

humiliation ritual

羞辱仪式。

羞辱仪式

do redditors still tell everyone to buy these pieces of shit or are they being astroturfed onto something else?

Reddit 用户是否仍然告诉每个人都去买这些狗屎，还是他们被其他东西取代了？

>>109477097

Miku <3

未来<3

I wish Miku themed accessories were actually black with some neon teal and magenta, just like she is. But Everything is either white + teal accents or just full teal and that doesn't look good.

我希望 Miku 主题配饰实际上是黑色，带有一些霓虹青色和洋红色，就像她一样。但一切要么是白色+青色，要么只是全青色，这看起来不太好。

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1786538846172308.gif

>>109535432

If it's that common, maybe some has designed a stronger 3D printable replacement for it, like Beyer sliders.

如果它如此常见，也许有人设计了更强大的 3D 打印替代品，比如拜尔滑块。

>>109534741

nothing some super glue cant fix

没有什么是强力胶解决不了的

>>109536045

Sliders are easy fix but might as well replace the headband entirely with something that would not get disgustingly greasy all the time.

滑块很容易修复，但也可以用不会一直变得令人厌恶的油腻的东西完全取代头带。

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1786545480327271.png

>>109535432

kek, chinks will be chinks, that shit could be avoided just by testing product before realese but no, that would fuck with china way of doing things aka flooding market with new model every few months. They even branched into jade audio and snowsky just to pump up more cheap stuff without raping fiio brand too much

哎呀，中国人就是中国人，这种事只要在真正实现之前测试产品就可以避免，但不行，这会破坏中国的做事方式，也就是每隔几个月就会用新型号淹没市场。他们甚至涉足翡翠音响和雪天，只是为了提供更多便宜的东西，而不是过度掠夺飞傲品牌

>>109535530

there are these but its still just m50's and they have that fuckass gaymer mic

有这些，但它仍然只是 m50，而且他们有那个该死的同性恋麦克风

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1786552003765975.jpg

>>109537239

Oh these do look nice. Yeah, shame for mic, But I would really appreciate more designs like this regardless.

哦，这些看起来不错。是的，对麦克风来说是耻辱，但无论如何，我真的很欣赏更多这样的设计。

>>109536303

The vast majority of chink headbands also use fuckass pleather for the underside of the headband pad, even the ones advertised with "genuine leather" often only use it as a decorative element on the top.

绝大多数中国佬头带的头带垫底面也使用了人造革，即使是那些标有“真皮”的头带也通常只将其用作顶部的装饰元素。

At least Beyer pads are simply replaceable and I think you can get nicer ones from Dekoni.

至少 Beyer 垫可以轻松更换，我认为您可以从 Dekoni 获得更好的垫。

>>109534361

It does, enough to make people unalive themselves

确实如此，足以让人们自己失去活力

>>109538542

>>109536303

u can get pretty decent headbands from aliexpress, usually they are ZMF, audeze looking ones and they are not that cheap, around 50USD.

你可以从速卖通买到相当不错的头带，通常是 ZMF、audeze 的，而且价格不便宜，大约 50 美元。

As for pads same story, u can get pretty good quality pads from china, made from leather or suede but avoid buying cheap few usd shit. depends on size but 20usd and more should get u good pads

至于护垫，同样的故事，你可以从中国买到质量很好的护垫，由皮革或麂皮制成，但要避免购买便宜的几美元狗屎。取决于尺寸，但 20 美元或更多应该可以买到好的护垫

>>109538656

The Audeze knockoffs are supposed to be pretty good. Actual leather strap that touches your head, decent build and adjustment, I'll probably end up with one or two for my Capra builds.

Audeze的仿制品应该相当不错。真正的皮革表带可以触碰你的头部，体面的结构和调整，我可能最终会为我的卡普拉结构选择一两个。

The Denon and Hifiman HE400SE style ones use pleather for the underside, and the Hifiman suspension type has no cup swivel whatsoever, so I'd avoid those.

Denon 和 Hifiman HE400SE 风格的底部使用仿皮，而 Hifiman 悬挂类型没有任何杯形旋转装置，所以我会避免使用这些。

Unsure about the ZMF clones, on some pics it looks like there is a leather strap and on others it looks like regular pleather padding, so I don't fully trust those.

不确定 ZMF 克隆品，在一些照片上看起来有一条皮带，而在其他照片上看起来像普通的皮革填充物，所以我不完全相信这些。

>>109538542

>fuckass pleather for the underside of the headband pad

>头带垫底面的人造革

Still better than soggy velour with falling apart padding, but yeah I'll look into it some more before getting anything.

仍然比湿漉漉的天鹅绒和散落的填充物要好，但是是的，在得到任何东西之前我会再仔细研究一下。

>>109538656

>pads

Surprisingly, cheapish fiio hs-ft1a (sold separately) have all the properties of real leather, I got a second pair just to run some destructive tests like cutting, burning etc and it looks as genuine as it gets.

令人惊讶的是，便宜的 fiio hs-ft1a（单独出售）具有真皮的所有特性，我买了第二双只是为了进行一些破坏性测试，如切割、燃烧等，它看起来和真实的一样。

Lots of fakes though, better check user review pictures. Or better yet, only buy from verified sellers.

不过假货很多，最好检查一下用户评论图片。或者更好的是，只从经过验证的卖家那里购买。

>>109538774

Oh you want to replace the FT1 headband, I thought we'd jumped to Beyer because of the sliders.

哦，你想更换 FT1 头带，我以为我们会因为滑块而跳到 Beyer。

Yeah, you'll probably want to look for one of those Audeze clones on Ali/eBay.

是的，您可能想在 Ali/eBay 上寻找 Audeze 克隆产品之一。

Anyone tried these?

有人尝试过这些吗？

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1786562730706346.png

Don't know why you guys are wasting so much time worrying about pleather, leather, shmecver or whatever. 15 bucks, bought mine a year ago and it's still good as new. I don't even use the little foam thing just the cloth that zips over it will keep your headband comfy forever.

不知道为什么你们要浪费这么多时间担心仿皮、皮革、shmecver 或其他什么。 15块钱，一年前买的，现在还跟新的一样。我什至不使用小泡沫的东西，只是用拉链覆盖它的布就能让你的头带永远保持舒适。

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>>109538808

I hate how retards aim the plugs straight down. Our neck and shoulders are right there. Angle them forward it's not hard the chinks figured that out years ago and it makes for a much more comfortable experience.

我讨厌智障们把插头直接朝下。我们的脖子和肩膀就在那里。让他们向前倾斜，中国佬几年前就发现了这一点并不难，这使得体验更加舒适。

>>109538831

Yeah, even home-gamers like MrSpeakers and Capra Audio always angle their connectors.

是的，即使像 MrSpeakers 和 Capra Audio 这样的家庭游戏玩家也总是调整其连接器的角度。

>using cables

>使用电缆

kek

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9e9ITi_Ngz0

Clickbaitslop title and thumbnail aside, these look like a fun DIY project with pretty decent specs to boot.

撇开标题和缩略图不谈，这些看起来像是一个有趣的 DIY 项目，具有相当不错的规格。

>>109538612

i see, so what do tinitus bros do then? Iems are torture devices for it, anc as you said also. I get it whenever i have sinus problems which is quite often and planars(aeons) seem to make it worse than my dd do, and i seen many people say similiar things about planars and tinnitus but idk if it was ever proven why that is

我明白了，那么耳鸣兄弟会做什么呢？正如你所说，Iems 是一种酷刑装置。每当我有鼻窦问题时，我都会得到它，这很常见，而且平面（万古）似乎比我的DD更糟糕，我看到很多人都说关于平面和耳鸣的类似事情，但我不知道是否有证据证明这是为什么

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>>109541563

Avoid stuff that seals tight and puts excessive pressure on your eardrums, I guess

我想，避免使用密封严密并对耳膜施加过大压力的东西

Time to live the open-back DD life

是时候过上开放式 DD 生活了

>>109541646

i see, that makes sense

我明白了，这是有道理的

the worst headphone for making tinitus worse for me was dan clark ethers cx's so that tracks. Was literal torture and i didnt even have an amp back then so it wasn't like i had them that loud

对我来说，让耳鸣变得更严重的最糟糕的耳机是 dan clark ethers cx 的，所以有音轨。这真是一种折磨，而且当时我什至没有扩音器，所以我的声音并没有那么大

how would electrostats be? I have never had the chance to try them, but considering soon im going to get rid of most of my audio collection i could probably get 007/009s. Maybe some older ones depending on the prices

静电器会怎样？我从来没有机会尝试它们，但考虑到我很快就会扔掉我的大部分音频收藏，我可能会得到 007/009。也许有些旧的取决于价格

>>109541779

My guess is they'll be about as bad as open-back planars, since they gotta seal pretty tight to produce proper bass

我的猜测是它们会和开放式平面扬声器一样糟糕，因为它们必须密封得很紧才能产生适当的低音

For tinnitus sufferers, the PortaPro form factor might unironically be the endgame

对于耳鸣患者来说，PortaPro 的外形可能是最终结局

Is there any point in considering the a/550 if i already have a 490 pro?

如果我已经有 490 pro，考虑 a/550 有什么意义吗？

>>109542072

nope, they are direct upgrade i think and even have same drivers. U can buy 600 series or something else

不，我认为它们是直接升级，甚至具有相同的驱动程序。你可以买600系列或者其他的

>>109534361

>>109538612

This is just an online myth btw. People might notice their existing tinnitus more after wearing ANC headphones because the ANC makes your surroundings sound quieter while you're wearing them. More likely it's just plugging up your ears in the first place that makes it worse (temporarily).

顺便说一句，这只是一个网上神话。人们在佩戴 ANC 耳机后可能会更注意到自己现有的耳鸣，因为 ANC 会让您在佩戴耳机时周围环境听起来更安静。更有可能的是，一开始就堵住你的耳朵，这会让情况变得更糟（暂时）。

Permanent increase to tinnitus only comes from actual damage, which is a volume issue.

耳鸣的永久性增加仅来自于实际损害，这是一个音量问题。

Normie (by /g/ standards) here. Looking for some noise cancelling headphones mostly for use at work/on flights. In the UK but I go to the US regularly so could get them there too. Budget of £250 but could stretch to £300 for the right pair.

诺米（按照/g/标准）在这里。正在寻找一些主要用于工作/飞行时使用的降噪耳机。在英国，但我经常去美国，所以也可以把他们带到那里。预算为 250 英镑，但如果有合适的一双，预算可能会增加到 300 英镑。

Hoping for

希望

>Decent noise cancelling, ANC (for flights)

>不错的降噪功能，ANC（适用于航班）

>Bluetooth

>Somewhat durable

>有点耐用

>Nice to have: physical cable with mic

>最好有：带麦克风的物理电缆

>Previous gear: I've got some sony xf1000xm4s which I like but was pretty fucked off that their software update nearly killed them a few months ago, had to do a battery replacement

>以前的装备：我有一些我喜欢的索尼 xf1000xm4，但几个月前他们的软件更新几乎让他们丧命，不得不更换电池

I've been looking at the Bose quietcomfort 2nd gens & sony xh 1000 m6

我一直在关注 Bose Quietcomfort 2nd gens 和 sony xh 1000 m6

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>>109542635

>software update nearly killed them a few months ago, had to do a battery replacement

>几个月前软件更新差点杀了他们，不得不更换电池

what the fuck

搞什么鬼

>>109542723

yeah was a few years back now, time flies. Can't remember what version it was but it made the batteries overhead and they lasted about 30 minutes before dying. Had to order replacement batteries on Aliexpress and replace them. Been fine since but I was pissed at the time. They refused to accept responsibility, said the most I could do was send them in for a repair which was £150 or something.

是的，已经是几年前的事了，时间过得真快。不记得它是什么版本，但它使电池消耗很大，并且它们持续了大约 30 分钟才耗尽。不得不在速卖通上订购更换电池并更换。从那以后一直很好，但我当时很生气。他们拒绝承担责任，说我最多只能送他们去修理，费用是 150 英镑左右。

>>109542723

ive heard same story for newer xm5 and xm6, idea of firmware updates for headphones is absurd. They either outsorce that shit to jeets, vibecoding it and planned obsolescence so they can sell u new same shit again and reviewers can shill u that ANC is much better than previous gen. Welcome to 2026 where fucking 30mm speakers inside plastic cups are treated as new iphones

我听过新的 xm5 和 xm6 的同样的故事，耳机固件更新的想法是荒谬的。他们要么把这些东西外包给jeets，对其进行振动编码并计划报废，这样他们就可以再次向你出售新的相同的东西，并且评论家可以向你推销ANC比上一代要好得多。欢迎来到 2026 年，塑料杯内的 30 毫米扬声器将被视为新 iPhone

>>109542784

>Welcome to 2026 where fucking 30mm speakers inside plastic cups are treated as new iphones

>欢迎来到 2026 年，塑料杯内的 30 毫米扬声器将被视为新 iPhone

it is so bizarre to see normalfag culture, they seem to want their itoddler devices to brick themselves so they can justify buying a new one, i have family members like that who are excited about their phone being obsolete

看到正常的同性恋文化真是太奇怪了，他们似乎希望他们的 itoddler 设备能自己变砖，这样他们就可以证明购买新设备是合理的，我有这样的家庭成员，他们对自己的手机过时感到兴奋

>>109542743

>They refused to accept responsibility, said the most I could do was send them in for a repair which was £150 or something.

>他们拒绝承担责任，说我最多只能送他们去修理，费用是 150 英镑左右。

new age sony is so fucking depressing honestly, how you go from making some of the best electronics ever to just making normalfag trash thats made to die is just beyond depressing. Even the mdr z1r now that it's out of production/warranty has no replacement parts available, pads, hinges etc included and they wont fix them if you send them in, it's a $3k cad headphone...

老实说，新时代的索尼真他妈的令人沮丧，你是如何从制造一些有史以来最好的电子产品变成只是制造普通的垃圾，这简直令人沮丧。即使是 mdr z1r 现在已经停产/保修了，也没有可用的替换零件，包括垫子、铰链等，如果你把它们寄过来，他们也不会修理它们，这是一个 3000 美元的 cad 耳机......

shame i have a lot of old sony electronics i like a lot, but new age sony is just cringe normalfag slop

羞耻的是，我有很多旧的索尼电子产品，我很喜欢，但新时代的索尼只是令人畏缩，正常的fag slop

>>109542799

ive seen guys treating ANC headphones as smartphones, so new one every year, mumbling about software updates, mumbling about device support, mumbling about dogshit changes or upgrades that could be fake byproduct of last gen being fucked by software updates and so on. Thats why sound quality is still dogshit in most popular products, its all about selling same software trinkets many times to techbros

我见过有人把 ANC 耳机当作智能手机，每年都会推出新产品，嘀咕着软件更新，嘀咕着设备支持，嘀咕着狗屎改变或升级，这些可能是上一代被软件更新搞砸的假副产品等等。这就是为什么在大多数流行产品中音质仍然是狗屎，这都是因为多次向技术兄弟出售相同的软件小饰品

>>109542823

>ive seen guys treating ANC headphones as smartphones, so new one every year, mumbling about software updates, mumbling about device support, mumbling about dogshit changes or upgrades that could be fake byproduct of last gen being fucked by software updates and so on

>我见过有人把 ANC 耳机当作智能手机，所以每年都有新的，嘀咕着软件更新，嘀咕着设备支持，嘀咕着狗屎改变或升级，这些可能是上一代被软件更新搞砸的假副产品等等

you've got to give props to these companies, they have some how managed to manipulate the nigger cattle into buying essential the same, if not a worse headphone every year for $400 a pop. God they must be rolling in cash from these cattle, i don't even know how the ANC trend hit normalfags so hard either, one day no one mentioned them and the next day every person i know needs them even in their neet basements with no sound, or for going on a plane 1 time per 2 years

你必须为这些公司提供支持，他们有一些方法设法操纵黑牛每年以 400 美元的价格购买基本相同的耳机，甚至更差的耳机。天哪，他们一定是从这些牛身上赚到了钱，我什至不知道非国大趋势如何对普通同性恋造成如此严重的打击，有一天没有人提到他们，第二天我认识的每个人都需要他们，即使是在他们的啃老族地下室里没有声音，或者每两年坐一次飞机

I suppose in many ways its like the containment zone for audio, but it must suck so hard to actually need ANC and you will never really get anything good so long as the current trends continue

我想在很多方面它就像音频的遏制区，但它一定很难真正需要 ANC，只要当前的趋势继续下去，你就永远不会真正得到任何好的东西

>>109542870

What headphones would you recommend out of interest

出于兴趣，您会推荐什么耳机

>>109542904

of all the headphones i've owned the only ones i'd ever actually tell people to buy are hd 600/650/aeons and hd 800, but i buy everything used as a preface, amps and dacs included

在我拥有的所有耳机​​中，我实际上告诉人们购买的唯一耳机是 hd 600/650/aeons 和 hd 800，但我买了所有用作前言的耳机，包括放大器和DAC

i wouldn't say any of them are perfect but i think they are generically good enough to blanket recommend to people, although if you into electronic or super bass heavy genres i can't imagine many people wouldn't be contesting all but aeons. I've never tried anything from audeze though so maybe they are just a better recommendation than aeons, but god they are so cheap, esp used

我不会说它们中的任何一个都是完美的，但我认为它们一般都足够好，可以向人们全面推荐，尽管如果你喜欢电子或超低音重流派，我无法想象很多人不会竞争除了万古之外的所有音乐。我从来没有尝试过 audeze 的任何东西，所以也许它们只是比 aeons 更好的推荐，但上帝啊，它们太便宜了，尤其是二手的

>>109542942

Thanks

>>109541779

With most estats you will get zero or close to zero acoustic isolation, meaning that you will be exposed to 30-40dB of background room noise. Dunno whether its helpful or not for tinnitus folks

在大多数情况下，您将获得零或接近于零的隔音效果，这意味着您将暴露在 30-40dB 的背景房间噪音中。不知道对耳鸣的人有没有帮助

>>109538808

listening to them right now

现在就听他们的

>>109541892

my Quad ERA-1 doesn't care at all about having a proper seal and I'd rank the bass at the same level or higher than that of Fostex biodynas, so planars that don't follow that rule do exist

我的 Quad ERA-1 根本不关心是否有适当的密封，我会将低音评为与 Fostex biodynas 相同或更高的水平，因此不遵循该规则的平面确实存在

>>109543620

Are they any good?

他们有什么好处吗？

is the za3 the best amp for its price if I want balanced input? to be pair with the zd3

如果我想要平衡输入，za3 是同价位中最好的放大器吗？与 zd3 配对

>don't use headphones

>不要使用耳机

>have no tinnitus

>没有耳鸣

It's that easy, folks.

就这么简单，伙计们。

>>109543904

I did get ringing after using dt1990 once though. Thankfully it passed.

不过，我在使用 dt1990 一次后确实响了。幸亏它过去了。

Should I buy this thing

我应该买这个东西吗

I don't need any features I just want a knob

我不需要任何功能，我只想要一个旋钮

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1786619035436299.jpg

>>109543917

>I just want a knob

>我只想要一个旋钮

How lewd

多么淫荡

>>109543904

pretty sure I had tinnitus before I even started wearing headphones

很确定我在开始戴耳机之前就已经耳鸣了

>>109543893

yes with the small pads and some proper eq i find them more realistic sounding than my 6XX (though not quite as effortless if that makes sense). the timbre and imaging are great, bass is a bit thumpy at first but once you add a 25hz cut and boost the rest you can hear layers and texture in the bass while enjoying it. upper treble is a bit sharp around 12k and needs some more precise tweaking by ear to make it pleasant and accurate. comfort is good, the small pads dont press on my glasses much and i can wear them for hours without any real discomfort despite them weighing half a kilo. the whole thing looks absurdly alien on my head, so i would never dare take it outside. on my desk it looks gorgeous

是的，有了小打击垫和一些适当的均衡器，我发现它们听起来比我的 6XX 更真实（尽管如果这有意义的话，那么不那么轻松）。音色和结像都很棒，低音一开始有点重，但一旦你添加 25hz 剪切并增强其余部分，你就可以在享受低音的同时听到低音的层次和质感。上高音在 12k 左右有点尖锐，需要通过耳朵进行一些更精确的调整，以使其令人愉悦且准确。舒适度很好，小护垫不会对我的眼镜造成太大压力，尽管它们重达半公斤，但我可以佩戴它们几个小时而没有任何真正的不适。整件事在我的脑海里看起来非常陌生，所以我永远不敢把它带到外面。在我的桌子上看起来很漂亮

>>109542072

in my opinion buying two similiar headphones in the same price tier tends to just not be worth it. Unless you are buying something for a completely different sound signature, like neutral - V or going from open dd to open planar/estat it just tends to be similar enough where it's better to save, or find something else. But you might feel differently if you have both, can't say for sure everyone has their tastes, you will even find people who have 600/650 which applies to me because i got the 600's for $75 usd, but it wouldnt be my recommendation still

在我看来，购买两个相同价位的类似耳机往往不值得。除非您购买的是完全不同的声音特征，例如中性 - V 或从 open dd 到 open planar/estat，否则它往往足够相似，最好保存或找到其他东西。但如果你两者都有，你可能会有不同的感觉，不能肯定地说每个人都有自己的品味，你甚至会发现有人拥有 600/650，这适用于我，因为我花了 75 美元买了 600，但这仍然不是我的推荐

>>109544530

I agree

我同意

when you have multiple headphones in the same ballpark, everything except the most comfortable and versatile pair tends to just collect dust in my experience

根据我的经验，当你在同一个球场上有多个耳机时，除了最舒适和多功能的耳机之外的所有耳机​​都容易积满灰尘

You guys have any earbuds or headphones without that gay mic that forces you to listen to everything in the outside world. I put headphones on to block out the outside world. Im mainly looking for earbuds though.

你们的耳塞或耳机没有那个同性恋麦克风，迫使您聆听外面世界的一切。我戴上耳机来隔绝外界的声音。不过我主要是在寻找耳塞。

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1786639378186466.jpg

Looking for a dac/amp for my pc, what can I get that works nice and will last me for a long time? I daily drive drive the Fidelio x2

正在为我的电脑寻找一款 dac/amp 放大器，我能买到什么东西既能很好用，又能用很长时间？我每天都会开 Fidelio x2

I was looking at this

我正在看这个

https://www.topping.store/products/topping-dx1-ii-gaming-dac-headphone-amplifier

But given how the dx5ii make your headphones explode I'm not too sure

但考虑到 dx5ii 如何让你的耳机爆炸，我不太确定

>>109546487

Bluetoddlers...

I am a tube MANIAC

我是一个电子管狂人

>>109546581

Based autistic retard now answer the goddamned question you faggot

基础自闭症弱智现在回答这个该死的问题，你这个基佬

>>109546487

Wired in-ears with foam tips are the only thing that truly comfortably fit me and block out most of the outside world.

带泡沫耳塞的有线入耳式耳机是唯一真正舒适贴合我并隔绝大部分外界干扰的东西。

>>109546521

Fidelios are super easy to drive, even a basic dongle will do fine.

Fidelio 非常容易驱动，即使是基本的加密狗也可以。

If you want K N O B, that Topping sure measures real nice but I agree the whole explody DX5 saga isn't very confidence inspiring. JDS is known good and US-made but don't make a cheap all-in-one, Schiit is also US-made with a more spotty history, but they do have some more affordable all-in-ones.

如果你想要 K N O B，那 Topping 确实不错，但我同意整个爆炸 DX5 传奇并不是很鼓舞人心。 JDS 众所周知，是美国制造的，但不生产便宜的一体机，Schiit 也是美国制造，历史更不稳定，但他们确实有一些更实惠的一体机。

>>109547469

Well yeah but my usbc port is too dirty and wont recognize something plugged in.

是的，但是我的 USB 端口太脏了，无法识别插入的东西。

>>109547762

Get something like a SIM removal tool and carefully scrape the lint and dirt out?

找一个 SIM 卡拆卸工具之类的东西，小心地刮掉绒毛和污垢？

>>109548204

I can give it a shot

我可以尝试一下

>>109548260

The leg of an LED worked for me before, if a SIM removal tool isn't long enough. Just gotta be careful to not damage anything in there.

如果 SIM 卡拆卸工具不够长，LED 灯腿以前对我有用。只是要小心，不要损坏里面的任何东西。

>>109546781

why

it's just tubes. what's the big deal about tubes?

这只是管子。管子有什么大不了的？

>>109542942

>hd 800

The cable connection on these things looks ridiculous. It's already bad enough when it's straight down in the middle but these are down in the back. If you are hunched over at all they are going to dig right into your shoulders.

这些东西上的电缆连接看起来很荒谬。当它直接位于中间时就已经够糟糕了，但这些都在后面。如果你弯腰驼背，他们就会直接扎进你的肩膀。

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1786664384352968.png

>>109550293

the cable bends pretty early so it never actually hits your shoulders or neck. Kind of looks weird on photos but it's probably the headphone i like the most for cable placement

电缆很早就弯曲了，所以它实际上不会碰到你的肩膀或脖子。照片上看起来有点奇怪，但这可能是我最喜欢的耳机的电缆放置

kind of goes out onto a V around your jaw - down the neck, pretty based honestly

有点像你的下巴周围呈V字形 - 一直到脖子，老实说，相当基础

i get your concern though, there are some really retarded cable design choices in headphone audio

不过，我明白你的担忧，耳机音频中有一些非常落后的电缆设计选择

>>109543901

If you have to ask you don't actually want or need a balanced input. You're paying for something that will have no real world benefit.

如果您不得不问，那么您实际上并不想要或需要平衡输入。你所付出的代价不会给现实世界带来任何好处。

I would suggest the Douk A5. The 32v version runs pretty cool for an amp and I bought a tiny usb fan and sit the amp on top of it and it runs all day ice cold now. You could use it without the fan just fine as well.

我会推荐 Douk A5。 32v 版本对于放大器来说运行得非常酷，我买了一个小 USB 风扇，并将放大器放在它上面，现在它可以整天冰冷地运行。您也可以在没有风扇的情况下使用它。

With the Douk you would get a low pass filter which is at least actually useful if you use a subwoofer and even if you don't it's still a good cheap amp.

使用 Douk，您将获得一个低通滤波器，如果您使用低音炮，它至少实际上很有用，即使您不使用它，它仍然是一个很好的廉价放大器。

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>>109550293

They're also much higher up, so the part of the cable that touches your shoulders is flexible.

它们的位置也高得多，因此接触肩膀的电缆部分很灵活。

>>109550462

That's fine I guess, either way I could never justify spending 2 grand on a headphone. Can't imagine there's anything in them that justifies that price. Even on sale that's just way too much I'm never going to appreciate music enough to get my monies worth.

我想这很好，无论如何我都无法证明花 2 块钱买耳机是合理的。无法想象其中有什么东西可以证明这个价格是合理的。即使打折也太多了，我永远不会欣赏到足够的音乐来物有所值。

I'm happy living in the 200-400 dollar world and not knowing what I'm missing.

我很高兴生活在 200-400 美元的世界里，却不知道自己错过了什么。

They look pretty cool though, kind of old school space age vibe.

不过它们看起来很酷，有点老派太空时代的氛围。

>>109550659

yeah the msrp on hd 800s is pretty insane, but the headphone market from mid 2010+ just destroyed it where some how they arent even close to the most exp like they were, they also made the hd 800s more than the msrp of the hd 800. I personally got mine for 800 cad which was extremely lucky

是的，hd 800s 的建议零售价相当疯狂，但是从 2010 年中期开始的耳机市场就摧毁了它，他们甚至没有像以前那样接近最exp，他们还使 hd 800s 比 hd 800 的建议零售价更高。我个人以 800 加元的价格买到了我的，这是非常幸运的

at msrp it's kind of a hard sell imo unless you are already in the kilobuck market already in which most headphones are trash by design, fail by design(focal) or are just made up numbers like most of chinkfimans stuff

在msrp看来，这是一种很难推销的产品，除非你已经进入了千元市场，在这个市场中，大多数耳机在设计上都是垃圾，在设计上失败（焦点）或者只是像大多数chinkfimans的东西一样编造数字

overall i wouldnt say you are missing out on anything really, you start hitting pretty insane diminishing returns after awhile and a used great pair of speakers won't even set you back $500 anymore with boomers mass selling them off

总的来说，我不会说你真的错过了任何东西，过了一段时间你就会开始遭遇相当疯狂的回报递减，一对用过的优质扬声器甚至不会再让你花费 500 美元，因为婴儿潮一代大量出售它们

>>109550621

i do need it because I need to run my DAC in a weird location about 5 metres from my amp for testing purposes

我确实需要它，因为我需要在距离我的放大器约 5 米的奇怪位置运行 DAC 以进行测试

What's a decent DAC I can get in UK? I really liked the JDS Atom 2 Stack but I'm not paying almost $150 in shipping + taxes

在英国可以买到什么像样的 DAC？我真的很喜欢 JDS Atom 2 Stack，但我没有支付近 150 美元的运费 + 税费

Buy Stax.

买斯塔克斯。

>>109551368

which ones?

哪款？

everytime i see l300's on ebay people are trying to get higher than msrp, or close while having fucked pads

每次我在 eBay 上看到 L300 的时候，人们都在试图获得高于建议零售价的价格，或者在拥有性交垫的情况下接近该价格

>>109494714

>i'm uncertain if this is just how chinkshit in general works

>我不确定这是否就是一般的中国佬的运作方式

It is, got memed into getting a fiio dac despite being sure the same would happen to me and guess what, it died without even a year of use

是的，我被迷惑了去买一个 fiio dac，尽管我确信同样的事情也会发生在我身上，你猜怎么着，它甚至没有使用一年就死了

>>109551822

everyone gets chinked once, but the ones who do it to themselves 10 times are in some sort of humiliation ritual

每个人都会被打交道一次，但那些对自己做十次的人就处于某种羞辱仪式中

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>>109552035

When the alternative is spending absurd prices for "local" brands that are shitt as well what's the point?

当另一种选择是花荒谬的价格购买同样糟糕的“本土”品牌时，还有什么意义呢？

>>109552063

you do what i do, only buy things if you find them used for essentially price errors, on a long enough time span you basically always find something worth while. But the high end amplifiers are pretty crazy i know, but the alternative clones like the dxii or w/e > rme is half price for a reason, and it's because its trash

你做我所做的，只有当你发现它们用于本质上的价格错误时才购买它们，在足够长的时间跨度内，你基本上总是会发现一些值得的东西。但我知道高端放大器非常疯狂，但像 dxii 或 w/e > rme 这样的替代克隆产品是半价是有原因的，这是因为它的垃圾

If your a euro i think its actually a horrible situation from my understanding, but in canada/america the used market is very good and a solid stack is pretty easy to find for cheap, even higher end stuff isn't uncommon

如果你是欧元，我认为根据我的理解，这实际上是一个可怕的情况，但在加拿大/美国，二手市场非常好，很容易以便宜的价格找到坚固的堆栈，甚至更高端的东西也并不罕见

>>109550293

do you always spew bullshit like this post?

你总是像这个帖子一样胡说八道吗？

I'm in need of good bluetooth speakers (as a present)

我需要一个好的蓝牙扬声器（作为礼物）

>Germany

>up to 150€

>for listening to mostly anime OSTs, some game OSTs, some rock bands like Starset

>主要用于听动漫OST，一些游戏OST，一些摇滚乐队如Starset

USB-C connection is required to connect a phone/mp3 player to it

需要 USB-C 连接才能连接手机/MP3 播放器

the previous one was from Tribit, no idea what model but they were good enough (budget at the time was most likely 40-80 bucks)

上一个是Tribit的，不知道是什么型号，但足够好（当时的预算很可能是40-80美元）

any recommendations?

有什么建议吗？

>>109552035

i want to buy these now, anime girl wearing headphones would be godtier market its weird the companies havent picked up on that, even fanart wise theres not a tonne

我现在想买这些，戴着耳机的动漫女孩将是更神圣的市场，奇怪的是公司还没有意识到这一点，即使是同人艺术也没有一吨

>>109553005

theres some good fan art for headphones, this is one of my favourites

有一些很好的耳机粉丝艺术，这是我的最爱之一

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>>109553014

this is the /hpg/ classic

这是 /hpg/ 经典

also, those look like they are based on the a990z, unless im mistaken and i have them, probably the widest sounding closed backs i've heard, just weird headband

另外，那些看起来像是基于 a990z 的，除非我弄错了，我有它们，可能是我听过的最宽的封闭式后背，只是奇怪的头带

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1786694066565664.jpg

>>109553014

there are quite a few good ones jsut not as many as id expect

有很多不错的，但没有我期望的那么多

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>>109553037

i think it's because a lot of the higher end stuff is just mass appealed to boomers, like imagine how funny an abyss x miku collab would be to some 70 year old, but i think thats probably changing considering the entire iem market only exists because of anime girl marketing(also third worlders)

我认为这是因为很多高端产品都对婴儿潮一代有吸引力，就像想象一下 abyss x miku 合作对一些 70 岁的人来说是多么有趣，但我认为考虑到整个 iem 市场的存在只是因为动漫女孩营销（也是第三世界的人），这可能正在改变

you could realistically sell so many fucking units just by doing any collab, some exist but just only in jp, like the sword art anime movie was just filled w/ sony headphones for example

你实际上可以通过任何合作来销售这么多他妈的单位，有些存在但只在日本，例如剑艺术动漫电影只是用索尼耳机填充

I mean how many dat players sold just from evangelion? I wanted one but they are too fucked price wise now to bother, the m500 seemed do insanely well, just kind of unfortunate it went in price cuz of memory prices

我的意思是新世纪福音战士卖出了多少数据播放器？我想要一个，但他们现在太不关心价格了，m500 似乎做得非常好，只是有点不幸，因为内存价格而价格上涨

>>109553935

abyss literally uses ai generated graphics on kilobuck headphones so yeah, it made with boomers in mind

abyss 实际上在 kilobuck 耳机上使用了人工智能生成的图形，所以是的，它是为婴儿潮一代设计的

>Location (since pricing and availability may vary)

>所在地区（因为价格和供货可能因地区而异）

US

>Budget

<$100 ideally, could pay ~$200 if required

理想情况下 <100 美元，如果需要可以支付 ~200 美元

>What exactly you're looking for (be as detailed as possible)

>你具体在找什么（越详细越好）

Open-back, over-ear or on-ear

开放式、耳罩式或贴耳式

>Previous gear and your thoughts on it

>之前的设备以及你对它的评价

Sennheiser HD 598cs - Good fit on ears, comfortable, they are so old now the sound has deteriorated badly

Sennheiser HD 598cs - 非常适合耳朵，舒适，它们太旧了，声音已经严重恶化

Sennheiser PX 100-II - Had these a long time ago, they were just fine

Sennheiser PX 100-II - 很久以前就有了，它们很好

ATH MX20x - Very uncomfortable, too tight, didn't get to listen enough to determine quality

ATH MX20x - 非常不舒服，太紧，没有听够以确定质量

Koss Porta Pro - Saw these compared to the PX 100-II in the past, tried it today... lightweight but feels like complete trash

Koss Porta Pro - 过去看到了这些与 PX 100-II 的比较，今天尝试了一下......重量轻，但感觉完全是垃圾

I have to power match and turn the knob to 75% to get a decent volume, should I buy balanced cables? chinese ones are pretty cheap

我必须进行功率匹配并将旋钮转到 75% 才能获得不错的音量，我应该购买平衡电缆吗？中国的很便宜

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>>109555178

Balanced cables aren't going to give you more volume. You need a stronger amp, but really you don't if you haven't hit 100% and it's loud enough what's the real issue?

平衡电缆不会给您带来更大的音量。您需要一个更强的放大器，但如果您还没有达到 100% 并且声音足够大，那么您真的不需要，真正的问题是什么？

Do people still buy open headphones

人们还在购买开放式耳机吗

how the fuck do they control the sound levels in their room

他们到底是怎么控制房间里的音量的

you literally cant do anything or the external noise would mess with the music

你实际上什么也做不了，否则外部噪音会扰乱音乐

>>109555215

What are you doing while having headphones on that is so loud is disrupts what you are listening to?

当您戴着耳机时，声音如此之大会扰乱您正在听的内容，您在做什么？

>>109555243

>>What are you doing while ha

>>你在做什么呢？

I have a window open and car tire noises, trains, people talking outside, birds.

我打开窗户，听到汽车轮胎的噪音、火车的声音、外面人们说话的声音、鸟儿的声音。

If I type anything on my relatively quiet mechanical keyboard that comes through even closed headphones.

如果我在相对安静的机械键盘上输入任何内容，即使是封闭式耳机也能听到。

Mouse clicks

鼠标点击

Pc fan noise, specially if it ramps up quickly.

电脑风扇噪音，特别是当它快速增加时。

Cooling fan aimed at me 24/7 during summer.

夏天，冷却风扇 24/7 全天候针对我。

AC unit.

空调机组。

Neighbours.

The fridge.

冰箱。

Water pipes.

水管。

>>109555347

I have a big box fan I blow at max speed during the summer. Most of your complaints are white noise that shouldn't even register. Maybe you have some rare super hearing, guess that's a blessing and a curse.

我有一个大箱式风扇，夏天我会以最大速度吹。您的大部分抱怨都是白噪音，根本不应该被记录下来。也许你有一些罕见的超级听力，我猜这是福也是祸。

>If I type anything on my relatively quiet mechanical keyboard that comes through even closed headphones

>如果我在相对安静的机械键盘上输入任何内容，即使是通过封闭式耳机也能听到

This feels like bullshit, I can barely hear mine even without headphones on and they aren't even silent keys. There's no way you are hearing non clacky keys with closed headphones and music in your ears.

这感觉就像是废话，即使不戴耳机我也几乎听不到我的声音，而且它们甚至不是静音键。戴上耳机时，您不可能听到不嘎嘎作响的琴键和耳边的音乐。

>>109554886

>they are so old now the sound has deteriorated badly

>它们太老了，声音已经严重恶化

drivers dont tend to deteriorate, pads do, and those are replaceable

驱动器不会老化，但刹车片会老化，而且这些是可以更换的

>lightweight but feels like complete trash

> 重量轻但感觉完全是垃圾

if by feel you mean comfort, get some yaxi pads.

如果你说的感觉是舒适，那就买一些亚喜垫。

alternatively, put ksc75 on a headband or kph40/portapro drivers on ear clips and again add yaxi pads. koss is portable endgame and sounds pretty good for the price, plus no headphone hair or skull dent.

或者，将 ksc75 放在头带上或将 kph40/portapro 驱动器放在耳夹上，然后再次添加 yaxi 垫。 koss 是一款便携式终端游戏，听起来相当物有所值，而且没有耳机毛发或头骨凹痕。

if you do want a new over ear headphone and can stretch the budget a little, dont settle for less and go straight for a refurbished or 2nd hand 650/6XX/600. replace the earpads with the official sennheiser ones if theyre worn out. the modern pads last pretty long and the headphones will last you a lifetime

如果您确实想要一款新的入耳式耳机并且可以稍微节省一点预算，请不要满足于少买，直接购买翻新或二手 650/6XX/600。如果耳垫磨损，请将其更换为森海塞尔官方耳垫。现代耳机的使用寿命相当长，而耳机将陪伴您一生

>>109554886

https://makerworld.com/en/models/1357094-koss-ksc75-foldable-headband-travel-case#profileId-3451528

https://www.printables.com/model/910930-faunus-v11-diy-hifi-headphones

Build some nibba

建立一些涅槃

>>109541563

Use open backs or passive closed backs with little occlusion noise and soundproof the room where you're using headphones, i don't think there is any other way if anc will make you harm yourself from tinnitus and iems are as painful as the kgb's cactus dildos

使用开放式后背或被动封闭式后背，遮挡噪音很小，并对使用耳机的房间进行隔音，我认为如果主动降噪会让您因耳鸣而伤害自己，那么没有其他方法了，而入耳式耳机就像克格勃的仙人掌假阳具一样痛苦

>>109542450

This is a falsity, i'm living proof of it

这是一个谎言，我就是活生生的证据

ANC can cause low frequency tinnitus loud enough to cause ptsd, imagine the sort of tinnitus volume that could leave you traumatised, now 10x it

ANC 会导致低频耳鸣，声音大到足以导致创伤后应激障碍（PTSD），想象一下那种耳鸣音量可能会让您受到创伤，现在是它的 10 倍

Hopefully it resorbs if you stop using any ancshit for weeks, the cause is simple: the anc mics' noise floor is just too damn high it causes a constant >30db(approx) white noise in the subbass and bass frequency ranges, this causes maladaptions in the auditory cortexes and subsequent difficulties processing sound in noisy ass places and/or tinnitus.

希望如果你停止使用任何 ancshit 数周，它会重新吸收，原因很简单：anc 麦克风的本底噪声太高了，它会在低音和低音频率范围内导致持续 >30db（大约）白噪声，这会导致听觉皮层适应不良，并随后在嘈杂的地方处理声音和/或耳鸣。

I didn't get that but people on the apple forums have said that apple's anc products have caused them measurable hearing loss and high frequency tinnitus instead, this one idk what could cause it other than having a dac so shitty it emits inaudible parasite noises loud enough to cause hearing loss, and there is an article about a bose user unaliving himself because of his bose headphones.

我不明白，但苹果论坛上的人说，苹果的 ANC 产品导致了他们可测量的听力损失和高频耳鸣，这个我不知道除了DAC如此糟糕之外还有什么可能导致这种情况，它会发出足够大的听不见的寄生虫噪音，导致听力损失，并且有一篇关于 Bose 用户因为他的 Bose 耳机而失去生命的文章。

>>109555717

>>109557338

Thank you!

谢谢！

>>109557885

>unaliving

Oh you little goofer, it's a good thing this place is anonymous. If your virtuous friends knew you were associating with nazis you would be in hot water.

哦，你这个小傻瓜，幸好这个地方是匿名的。如果你的善良朋友知道你与纳粹有联系，你就会陷入困境。

>>109557885

interesting

I guess I won't invest in ANC to deal with my current neighbor problem if it's that bad

我想如果有那么糟糕的话我不会投资 ANC 来解决我目前的邻居问题

>>109557885

>a bunch of useless anecdotes

>一堆无用的轶事

So just like I said, online myth.

就像我说的，网上神话。

>unaliving

And you need to go back too, it seems.

看来你也需要回去了。

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2nd pair of dt 770 pros died.

第二对 dt 770 专业人士死亡。

should I go with the DT 700 PRO X or something else?

我应该选择 DT 700 PRO X 还是其他？

I've only had dt 770 pros and I really like the sound..

我只用过 dt 770 pro，但我真的很喜欢它的声音。

>>109560163

What died? Cable, slider, or the actual driver?

什么死了？电缆、滑块还是实际的驱动器？

First two are fixable.

前两个是可以修复的。

>>109560237

its been the driver every single time.

每次都是司机。

The first pair were repaired then broke again then it happened to my 2nd pair. I replaced the driver myself but then a month later the opposite driver died.

第一对修好了然后又坏了，然后我的第二对也发生了这种情况。我自己更换了司机，但一个月后对面的司机死了。

I know these are supposed to be durable but I have been really unlucky with drivers.

我知道这些应该是耐用的，但我对司机来说真的很不幸。

>>109560284

also they're all the 250 ohm version

而且它们都是 250 欧姆版本

>>109560284

You sure it's not your amp killing them?

你确定不是你的放大器杀死了他们？

>>109560615

I'm starting to think so honestly

我开始这么诚实地思考

>>109560615

how the fuck amp can kill drivers?

他妈的放大器怎么能杀死司机？

>>109507776

Based stax bro, L500s?

基于 stax 兄弟，L500s？

>Location

Germany

>Budget

Around 120€

120欧元左右

>What exactly you're looking for

>您到底在寻找什么

Sturdy over ears with balanced sound similar to the M40x. Open back or closed back are both fine, I live alone and these only get used for gaming and listening to music/watchting tv shows at home anyway. Wired or wireless also doesn't really matter to me.

坚固的耳罩，声音平衡，类似于 M40x。开放式或封闭式都可以，我一个人住，这些只能用于在家玩游戏和听音乐/看电视节目。有线或无线对我来说并不重要。

>Previous gear

>之前的档位

Had a ton of headphones over the years, but everything fucking breaks in like a year at best, even though I try to be as careful as possible when handling them.

多年来我戴了很多耳机，但一切他妈的最多也就一年就会坏掉，尽管我在处理它们时尽可能小心。

The Creative Aurvana Live are the only ones that lasted me for 5ish years and they were pretty good sound wise, but terrible comfort wise since the ear pads were too small and they had those annoying double cables. I did actually see a a pair of Aurvana SE on Amazon for only 30 bucks, but not sure if these sound the same and I don't really wanna go back to the shitty ear pads and the double connected cable.

Creative Aurvana Live 是唯一能让我用了 5 年左右的耳机，它们的声音相当不错，但舒适度却很差，因为耳垫太小，而且有那些烦人的双线。事实上，我确实在亚马逊上看到了一副 Aurvana SE，只要 30 美元，但不确定它们听起来是否一样，而且我真的不想再用那些糟糕的耳垫和双连接线。

After those I had the M40x until a few days ago when one of the hinges broke off after only 9 fucking months. Send them back and they are currently seeing if they can repair them, if not they'll either send me a new pair or refund me. Sound wise these were fantastic, had a problem with sound in games being really unbalanced at first (environment too quiet, but gunshots and other loud noises being insanely loud), but fixed that with Loudness Equalization. Okay comfort wise.

之后我就拥有了 M40x，直到几天前，仅用了 9 个月，其中一个铰链就断了。将它们寄回，他们目前正在查看是否可以修复它们，如果不能，他们要么给我寄一双新的，要么退款给我。声音方面，这些都很棒，一开始游戏中的声音确实不平衡（环境太安静，但枪声和其他噪音非常大），但通过响度均衡解决了这个问题。好的舒适明智。

And now I got the Crinacle Zero 2 to hold me over and they suck ass for gaming and watching shows/movies. Same issue as with the M40x, but Loudness Equalization doesn't do jack shit. Tried EQing, but I'm not very knowledgeable, so I just tried various presets from other people, but none really sounded good to me, nor did they really fix the issue in games.

现在我有了 Crinacle Zero 2 来支撑我，它们玩游戏和看节目/电影真是太棒了。与 M40x 的问题相同，但响度均衡并不能解决问题。尝试过EQ，但我不是很了解，所以我只是尝试了其他人的各种预设，但没有一个对我来说听起来很好，也没有真正解决游戏中的问题。

Also had the Philips Fidelio X2 for a bit, but send them back because they clamped too hard, gave me a headache.

我也用过飞利浦 Fidelio X2，但因为夹得太紧而把它们退回来，让我头疼。

>>109560745

Ask Topping engineers

询问Topping工程师

>>109560284

Another victim of Beyer's shitty self-destructing voice coils...

拜尔糟糕的自毁音圈的另一个受害者......

>>109477097

Opinions on the Steelseries headphones? I want something for gayming but also everyday use, and some of the models (The Omni for example) have a retractablle mic which is great to not look like a fag when walking outside

对 Steelseries 耳机的看法？我想要一些适合同性恋但也适合日常使用的东西，有些型号（例如 Omni）有一个可伸缩麦克风，这很好，在外面走路时不会看起来像基佬

>>109551822

Damn, and I wanted to buy the snowsky...

妈的，我本来想买雪天的……

just went through the painstaking process of eq-ing my verum 2 by ear with a sine generator because online measurements couldnt help me fix the treble. i don't think the curve is perfected yet but i've used up all 31 filters and it's much closer to perceptually flat now across the sweep.

刚刚经历了用正弦发生器对我的 verum 2 进行耳道均衡的艰苦过程，因为在线测量无法帮助我修复高音。我认为曲线还没有完善，但我已经用完了所有 31 个滤波器，现在在整个扫描过程中它在感知上更接近平坦。

as for the initial impressions: i'm blown away! all unwelcome sharpness is gone and i've gained much more pleasant texture in the top end. midrange still sounds natural and perhaps slightly less colored than before. bass wasnt really impacted much, as expected.

至于最初的印象：我被震撼了！所有不受欢迎的锐度都消失了，我在顶端获得了更令人愉快的质感。中音听起来仍然很自然，而且色彩可能比以前稍微少了一些。正如预期的那样，低音并没有受到太大影响。

highly recommend trying this with your own headphones (at low volume)!

强烈建议使用您自己的耳机尝试（低音量）！

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>>109477097

omg it migu

天哪，它动了。

>>109477097

Guys honest opinion and recommendation

伙计们诚实的意见和建议

Beyerdynamic DT990 PRO X 48Ohm

拜亚动力 DT990 PRO X 48欧姆

Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro 80Ohm

拜亚动力 DT770 Pro 80Ohm

Beyerdynamic DT990 Pro 250Ohm

拜亚动力 DT990 Pro 250Ohm

Beyerdynamic DT770 PRO X 48Ohm

拜亚动力 DT770 PRO X 48欧姆

Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro 32Ohm

拜亚动力 DT770 Pro 32Ohm

Beginner speakers dumbfuck here, looking at the edifier r1280t from the guide and it seems like good value. I'd eventually like to connect them to both a 4k tv and a record player at the same time. The tv doesnt have rca but does have optical. Can I solve this with one of those cheap converters on amazon or would that be a bad idea to use with the speakers?

初学者音箱在这里傻了，看看指南中的漫步者r1280t，它似乎很有价值。我最终希望将它们同时连接到 4k 电视和电唱机。电视没有 RCA，但有光纤。我可以用亚马逊上那些便宜的转换器之一来解决这个问题吗？或者与扬声器一起使用是一个坏主意吗？

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>>109561966

>Germany

>Around 120€

>约120欧元

Check available refurbished headphones in the Sennheiser outlet and go from there

检查 Sennheiser 商店中是否有可用的翻新耳机，然后从那里开始

>>109566387

Does it necessarily have to be one of those?

它一定是其中之一吗？

>>109566387

I have the dt 700 pro 32 ohm, used them for pc everything for a few years now. Sound good and are comfortable to wear for a long period of time. The original ears pads do wear out quickly though. Cable is a bit short.

我有 dt 700 pro 32 欧姆，几年来一直将它们用于电脑上的所有设备。音质很好，长时间佩戴也很舒适。不过，原来的耳垫确实很快就会磨损。电缆有点短。

>>109567008

770*

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>>109477097

I haven't had this much fun with a pair of headphones since modding my HD6XX.

自从改装 HD6XX 以来，我还没有这么享受过使用耳机的乐趣。

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>>109477097

Why arent yu rec9mmending the goated Koss Porta Pros?

为什么你不推荐山羊般的 Koss Porta Pros？

>>109567081

>mini-XLR pointed straight at your shoulders

>迷你 XLR 直指您的肩膀

Koss WHY

科斯 为什么

>>109532955

Xduoo TA-66

Xduoo TA-66（乂度的一款耳放型号）

>>109567081

Shouldve made them 300 ohm so I could use them with my tube amp.

应该将它们制成 300 欧姆，这样我就可以将它们与我的电子管放大器一起使用。

>>109564117

If you're outside get some wireless earbuds. https://a.co/d/0fjTUsh6

I got these a few months ago and they have been working great and sound good.

我几个月前收到了这些，它们工作得很好，听起来也很好。

Inside HyperX brand is cheaper and better quality unless you spend huge bucks on the premium ripoff shit.

除非你花大价钱购买高级山寨货，否则 HyperX 品牌的价格更便宜，质量也更好。

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K702 any good?

K702好用吗？

>>109567090

Are there any other open back heqdphones with similar deep bass slam and punch and rumble as the Porta Pros?

还有其他开放式耳机具有与 Porta Pros 类似的深沉低音、冲击力和隆隆声吗？

>>109566802

Get some passive speakers and a wiim amp. I got a pair of Polk ES15's for 200 dollars flat used in perfect condition. Passive speakers are a good used buy because they have hardly any parts that can break. I couldn't find the ones I bought anymore but there are a pair of white ones on amazon right now for 219 and if you look around other online sellers I'm sure you could find others.

买一些无源扬声器和一个 wiim 放大器。我花了 200 美元买了一双 Polk ES15，使用状态完美。无源扬声器是一个很好的二手产品，因为它们几乎没有任何可能损坏的部件。我再也找不到我买的那双了，但亚马逊上现在有一双白色的，售价 219 美元，如果你看看其他网上卖家，我相信你还能找到其他的。

Accessories4less is selling Wiims now, that amp pro is a really good deal it's 40 dollars less than they go for on black friday normally.

Accessories4less 现在正在销售 Wiims，amp pro 非常划算，比黑色星期五的正常价格便宜 40 美元。

Don't know what your budget is but for less than 500 dollars you would be set for a long time with way better sound and options. Those powered speakers will just die eventually and become ewaste. If you get those Polks or some other passive speaker they will last decades and you could use them as part of a surround setup in the future if you wanted.

不知道您的预算是多少，但只要不到 500 美元，您就可以在很长一段时间内拥有更好的声音和选项。这些有源扬声器最终会报废并成为废物。如果您购买这些 Polk 或其他无源扬声器，它们将持续数十年，如果您愿意，您可以将它们用作未来环绕声设置的一部分。

Just an alternative suggestion, I don't know how to answer your original question sorry.

只是一个替代建议，抱歉，我不知道如何回答您原来的问题。

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>>109477097

thoughts on the linhsoul zero 2s?

对 linhsoul 零 2s 有什么想法？

>sennheiser headphones are the most comfortable headphones ever bro you just need to let them dig into the top of your skull for 2 years to break in the padding, oh yeah you need to replace the padding every 1-2 years also

>森海塞尔耳机是有史以来最舒适的耳机，兄弟，您只需让它们深入您的头骨顶部 2 年即可损坏衬垫，哦，是的，您还需要每 1-2 年更换一次衬垫

>what you're still complaining bro? don't worry you can buy an ugly 3d printed comfort strap on for your headphones that will fix your problem

> 兄弟你还在抱怨什么？不用担心，您可以为您的耳机购买一条丑陋的 3D 打印舒适带，这将解决您的问题

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>>109567298

Appreciate the suggestion and will look into them, that's within budget. Is there then a compatible amp anyone can be recommend that aims for longevity in mind and isnt too expensive? Honestly, the wireless/streaming/google ones also sound like theyll be likely ewaste in a few years.

感谢您的建议并将对其进行研究，这在预算之内。那么有没有一款可以推荐的兼容放大器，既能延长使用寿命，又不会太贵呢？老实说，无线/流媒体/谷歌的那些听起来也可能在几年内被浪费。

>>109567196

a lot of qc/build problems, but one of the widest sounding dds in that price tier

很多质量控制/构建问题，但在该价格层中听起来最广泛的 dds 之一

>>109567873

who are you quoting?

你引用谁的话？

>>109567873

yeah, HD600 series headphones were never comfortable to me

是的，HD600系列耳机对我来说从来都不舒服

I think 95% of people have low standards when it comes to headphone comfort in general

我认为 95% 的人对耳机舒适度的总体标准较低

>>109567962

Other than expensive all in one receivers I don't think most amps are made to last decades. Only western options I know of are Schitt and JDS Labs. Both are going to be better than the chinese options but you'll pay a bit more and they still won't last a long time. If you need a DAC as well than the JDS Labs Atom stack can be a good option. Otherwise just get a cheap chink amp like the Douk A5 so if it breaks in a few years you aren't out a lot of money.

除了昂贵的多合一接收器之外，我认为大多数放大器都无法持续数十年。我所知道的西方选择只有 Schitt 和 JDS Labs。两者都会比中国的选择更好，但你会花更多的钱，而且它们仍然不会持续很长时间。如果您还需要 DAC，那么 JDS Labs Atom 堆栈可能是一个不错的选择。否则就买一个像 Douk A5 这样便宜的 chink 放大器，这样即使几年后它坏了，你也不会损失很多钱。

>>109569233

they changed the hd 600 headband pad to match the 650 which is more comfortable, imo at least. But they are substantially more comfortable once the headband is bent out a bit, my 6xx i didn't do that but i got used hd 600's which clearly had it and it was night and day

他们更改了 hd 600 头带垫以匹配 650，至少在我看来，650 更舒适。但是一旦头带稍微弯曲一点，它们就舒服多了，我的 6xx 我没有这样做，但我用过 hd 600，它显然有它，而且是白天和黑夜

but there are some literal torture devices in headphone audio, the anc cancer doesn't even have headband padding for the most part, or it's so small that it doesn't even help, the m50x/dt pros,k700 series are in my opinion essentially torture devices

但耳机音频中确实存在一些折磨设备，anc cancer 大部分甚至没有头带衬垫，或者它太小了，甚至没有帮助，m50x/dt pro、k700 系列在我看来本质上是折磨设备

>>109567410

i have a pair and wasn't really impressed with the sound signature or clarity

我有一对，但对声音特征或清晰度并没有留下深刻的印象

>>109567873

>oh yeah you need to replace the padding every 1-2 years also

>哦，是的，您还需要每 1-2 年更换一次填充物

You don't have to, but it's nice to do so. It's a hell of a lot better than spending money on brand new headphones which is what most headset fags do, their shit never lasts more than a couple of years, meanwhile people still have their HD600s 20+ years later and they work perfectly.

你不必这样做，但这样做很好。这比花钱买全新耳机要好得多，而大多数耳机爱好者都会这样做，他们的耳机永远不会持续超过几年，同时人们在 20 多年后仍然拥有他们的 HD600，而且它们工作得很好。

>>109569237

Thanks. After comparing the difference between active & passive I wound up settling on a set of edifier p12 passive speakers and a cheap chinese amp that had good reviews and all the connections I need. With all the cables and a coil of speaker wire came in under 250 bucks for the whole setup.

谢谢。在比较了有源和无源之间的差异后，我最终选择了一套 edifier p12 无源扬声器和一个便宜的中国放大器，它有很好的评论和我需要的所有连接。加上所有的电缆和一卷扬声器线，整个设置花费不到 250 美元。