Fetterman has possibly reached enlightenment; Dems Seething

Thune ready to have ‘conversation’ with Fetterman about joining GOP — as Dems rage against RNC ‘stunt’

图恩(Thune)准备与费特曼“谈谈”加入 GOP——民主党则怒斥 RNC“花招”

https://nypost.com/2026/09/10/us-news/thune-ready-for-conversation-with-fetterman-about-joining-gop-as-dems-rage-against-rnc-stunt/

DALLAS — Senate Majority Leader John Thune (R-SD) told The Post in an exclusive interview Thursday that he’s willing to woo Sen. John Fetterman to join his conference after the Pennsylvania Democrat made a surprise virtual appearance at the Republican convention.

达拉斯——参议院多数党领袖约翰·图恩(John Thune)（南达科他州共和党人）周四在接受《纽约邮报》独家采访时表示，在这位宾州民主党人意外视频现身共和党大会之后，他愿意争取参议员约翰·费特曼(John Fetterman)加入其党团。

“If and when he is ready to have that conversation, we are certainly ready to have it,” the Republican leader said. “It’s going to be increasingly hard for him to have a home in a Democratic Party that is so far out of step with his core values, and I think that you know what he said yesterday reflects that.”

“如果他准备好谈、等他准备好谈，我们随时奉陪，”这位共和党领袖说。“对一个与其核心价值观脱节如此之远的民主党，他越来越难找到家的感觉。我认为他昨天说的话正反映了这一点。”

“I don’t push him on it,” Thune added, speaking on the sidelines of the Republican midterm convention in Dallas the morning after Fetterman appeared on the jumbotron to express support for fellow Pennsylvania Sen. Dave McCormick, a Republican.

“我不会去推他，”图恩补充道。他是在费特曼登上大屏幕、表态支持同州共和党参议员戴夫·麦考密克(Dave McCormick)后的次日上午，在达拉斯共和党中期大会场边说这番话的。

Rep. Madeleine Dean (D-Pa.) dismissed the video endorsement as a “stunt,” before taking aim at Fetterman’s “work ethic” and claiming the senator was “just not present” in his official duties.

众议员玛德琳·迪恩(Madeleine Dean)（宾州民主党人）把这段视频背书斥为“花招”，随后矛头直指费特曼的“工作态度”，声称这位参议员“在履职中根本不在场”。

“My constituents are livid. Those who went out and knocked doors for him are absolutely livid,” Dean said.

“我的选民们气炸了。那些当年为他挨家挨户敲门助选的人 absolutely 气炸了，”迪恩说。

Fetterman took the rare step of praising McCormick, who at one point might have been his 2022 opponent, at the Republican convention as questions swirl about whether he will change his party registration — or be ousted in the future by a primary challenger from his own party.

费特曼在共和党大会上罕见地称赞麦考密克——此人一度本可能是他 2022 年的对手——与此同时，外界纷纷猜测他是否会变更党籍，或未来会不会被本党初选对手拉下马。

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>>1535667

Fellow Pennsylvania Democratic Rep. Chris DeLuzio (D-Pa.) has also said he’s “gotten a lot of encouragement” to primary Fetterman in 2028.

同为宾州民主党众议员的克里斯·德卢齐奥(Chris DeLuzio)也表示，他“获得了很多鼓励”，要他在 2028 年挑战费特曼。

Though he’s sided with the GOP on key votes such as government funding, Fetterman suggested that if his party officially becomes “the anti-Israel party,” he’d have to depart.

尽管费特曼在政府拨款等关键投票上已站在 GOP 一边，他表示，如果他的党正式变成“反以色列党”，他将不得不离开。

“I’d be a terrible Republican who still votes overwhelmingly with Democrats,” he has also said, referring to a voting record that shows at least 80% of the time he joins with his own caucus.

“我会是个糟糕的共和党人，仍然压倒性地投民主党的票，”他还说过，指的是其至少 80% 时间与本党团一致投票的记录。

“I’m a lifelong Democrat who votes overwhelmingly with my party — and should the Senate flip in November, I will still be the 51st vote that I ran on,” Fetterman clarified later in a statement.

“我是终身的民主党人，压倒性地投本党的票——如果 11 月参议院翻转，我仍将是我参选时承诺的那个第 51 票，”费特曼随后在声明中澄清。

The cross-party endorsement isn’t without precedent. Former independent Sen. Joe Lieberman, who caucused with Democrats, did the same for his longtime friend Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) at the 2008 GOP convention.

跨党派背书并非没有先例。曾与民主党共进退的独立参议员乔·利伯曼(Joe Lieberman)就曾在 2008 年 GOP 大会上为他的老友、参议员约翰·麦凯恩(John McCain)（亚利桑那州共和党人）背书。

Four years before that, Sen. Zell Miller (D-Ga.) also backed then-presidential nominee George W. Bush at the Republican National Convention.

再往前四年，参议员泽尔·米勒(Zell Miller)（佐治亚州民主党人）也在共和党全国代表大会上为当时的总统候选人乔治·W·布什站台。

In Wednesday’s video appearance, Fetterman called himself a “common sense Democrat” and expressed willingness to work across the aisle with McCormick — and President Trump — to deliver for steel workers and other Pennsylvanians.

在周三的视频露面中，费特曼自称“常识民主党人”，表示愿与麦考密克——以及特朗普总统——跨党派合作，为钢铁工人和其他宾州人做事。

“I’m always going to reject the extremes and socialism and that anti-American way of life,” he also said.

“我永远会拒绝极端主义、社会主义，以及那种反美的生活方式，”他还说。

More Republicans have a favorable view of Fetterman than McCormick, an August survey conducted by The New York Times, The Philadelphia Inquirer and Siena University found.

《纽约时报》《费城问询报》和锡耶纳学院 8 月的一项调查发现，对费特曼持好感的共和党人多于对麦考密克持好感者。

At least 73% of registered Republican voters expressed a positive opinion about Fetterman, while 63% did about McCormick.

至少 73% 的登记共和党选民对费特曼持正面评价，而对麦考密克持正面评价的为 63%。

Meanwhile, most registered Democratic voters (63%) have an unfavorable opinion of Fetterman, and 22% have a favorable view.

与此同时，大多数登记民主党选民（63%）对费特曼持负面评价，持正面评价的为 22%。

>>1535667

>Fetterman called himself a “common sense Democrat”

>费特曼自称“常识民主党人”

Fatterman finding out there's no such thing really quick. Aren't ya?

胖特曼(Fatterman)很快就会发现根本没有这种东西。是不是啊？

>AI slop

>AI 垃圾产物(slop)

>NYpost

Fake news propaganda site.

假新闻宣传网站。

>>1535671

Yeah, the DINO who started veering right after brain damage from a stroke is a good judge of common sense, that's the kind of 'common sense' I'd expect from a righty, you guys should go have sweaty gay sex about it.

对，那个中风脑损伤后开始右转的 DINO（挂名民主党人）是“常识”的好裁判，这就是我从右翼期待的那种“常识”，你们该去为此出一身 gay 汗。

>>1535671

>Ducking your own constituents so you can go on Fox News and say “what about Hasan”

>躲着自己的选民，好上福克斯新闻说“那哈桑呢”

Im sure the people who voted for him to represent them are very happy when they see him standing next to leaders of foreign governments

我确信那些投他票、指望他代表自己的人，看到他站在外国政府领导人身边时高兴得很

NYpost is a shitty tabloid run by zionist jews. Fetterman is indeed a Republican albeit. He changed his tune AFTER he had a stroke.

《纽约邮报》是犹太复国主义犹太人经营的烂小报。不过费特曼确实是个共和党人。他中风后才改了调门。

Again, Fetterman became conservative AFTER he had a STROKE.

再说一遍：费特曼是在中风之后才变成保守派的。

>>1535667

Fetterman's not surviving the next primary, that much is fucking certain.

费特曼撑不过下一场初选，这一点他妈的确定。

>>1535706

Fine by us. PA is a swing state. Idk why y'all getting mad that a guy from a 50-50 state has 50-50 policies.

我们无所谓。宾州是摇摆州。我不懂你们凭什么对一个五五开的州出身的政客持五五开的政策感到愤怒。

>>1535691

He's not "conservative". Hes a blue-dog dem.

他不“保守”。他是个蓝狗民主党人。

>>1535708

Anon if him embracing republican policies has made him horrifically unpopular, you think an actual republican candidate is going to be much better?

老哥，如果他拥抱共和党政策已经让他人气惨淡，你觉得一个货真价实的共和党候选人会好很多？

He's not going for reelection.

他不寻求连任。

>>1535711

And yet he seems to align with the Republicans at every possible moment.

可他看起来在每个可能的时刻都跟共和党站在一边。

>>1535717

>Horrifically unpopular

>人气惨淡

Amongst the fringe left, sure. However, I remind you again that PA is a swing state.

在边缘左翼里，是的。不过我再提醒你一次：宾州是摇摆州。

>>1535718

>And yet he seems to align with the Republicans at every possible moment

>可他看起来在每个可能的时刻都跟共和党站在一边

Sure, when he's not pushing for a Federal minimum wage of $17 an hour, and pro-union legislation, and an assault-weapons ban and Medicaid expansions.

是啊，当他不在推动每小时 17 美元的联邦最低工资、亲工会立法、突击武器禁令和 Medicaid 扩容的时候。

But yeah, he wants to have a border and doesn't really care about Hamas so he's basically a Republican.

不过话说回来，他想搞边境管控，又不太在乎哈马斯，所以他基本就是个共和党人。

Jackass.

>>1535757

it doesn't really get more clear cut that he's a republican when you start shilling for him

等你开始给他当狗托的时候，他是不是共和党人就已经明摆着了。

>>1535758

Okay retard.

行吧，智障。

>>1535685

Right wing=not being a bitch and funding the government because people need food stamps, I suppose.

合着右翼就是不怂、还给政府拨款让老百姓能领食品券呗。

lol.

>>1535772

Exactly, being right wing means being a tone-deaf faggot with no idea what's going on around you. Everything is fine, the shepherd has your best interest in mind, you are a good little sheep.

没错，右翼就是对周围发生的事一无所知的聋子基佬。一切都好着呢，牧羊人是真心为你着想的，你真是只乖巧的小绵羊。

>>1535757

Having a handful of dem beliefs and then voting with Republicans anyway still makes you a Republican.

身上带着几条民主党的主张、投票却照样投共和党，那你就是共和党人。

>>1535774

lol liggerals are hilarious.

哈哈，自由派(谐音梗)真是笑死人了。

>The shepherd has you best interests in mind

>牧羊人是真心为你着想的

>Give all you money to the government

>把你所有的钱都交给政府

Speaking of tonedeaf.

说到不接地气。

>>1535757

>pro-union legislation

>亲工会的立法

>https://apnews.com/article/john-fetterman-trump-democrats-senate-pennsylvania-8129e206ed9479ad8534eac3fd128abe

Yeah and then he acts confused when the Unions he supports get pissed that he's been supporting things that fuck them over.

是啊，然后他支持的工会发现他一直在推那些坑自己的政策，气炸了，他居然还一脸懵。

>>1535775

Common sense Democrat is what he calls it.

他管这叫「常识派民主党」。

>>1535778

>Common sense

>「常识」

>Supports Iran war

>支持对伊朗开战

lol

>>1535780

Yes, that's common sense to people who understand that Iran is in the finding out phase of it's fucking around.

对，在明白伊朗正在为瞎折腾付出代价的人眼里，这就是常识。

>>1535781

>Guys it's common sense that they were totally close to a nuke this time

>各位，常识告诉我们他们这次真的马上就要造出核弹了

>Ignore how we've used the "Two weeks away!" line to justify every bombing for the last 40 years

>别管我们过去40年每次轰炸都用「就差两周了！」这套说辞当借口

>>1535782

Its just a distraction from Trump being responsible for accelerating Iran's nuclear program

这纯粹是为了转移视线，掩盖是特朗普加速了伊朗核计划这个事实。

Even shills admit that Trump let them get a nuke at least 4 years earlier than Obama's plan would, and Obama didn't need to tank the global economy, waste billions of US dollars, or get soldiers killed.

连狗托都承认，特朗普让伊朗提前了至少4年拿到核弹，而且奥巴马的方案不用拖垮全球经济、不用浪费几十亿美元、也不用让士兵送命。

>>1535782

Damn, I pissed of the Russians, huh?

啧，我把俄国人惹毛了是吧？

>>1535777

>Teachers union

>教师工会

I meant actual unions.

我说的是真正的工会。

>>1535780

Yes.

>>1535782

The strike on Fordow crippled part of the Iranian nuclear program. It didn't end it. Iran still had 440kg of enriched uranium that needed to be dealt with.

对福尔多的打击让伊朗核计划瘫痪了一部分，但没把它终结。伊朗手里还有440公斤浓缩铀需要处理。

>>1535786

>Merely pretending to be retarded

>我只是装傻而已

>>1535787

>The strike on Fordow crippled part of the Iranian nuclear program. It didn't end it.

>对福尔多的打击让伊朗核计划瘫痪了一部分，但没把它终结。

So then they lied when they said it set them back decades. And continue to lie about the effectiveness of last years bombings.

那他们当初说打击让伊朗倒退几十年就是在撒谎咯，而且到现在还在谎报去年那次轰炸的效果。

>>1535787

>>Teachers union

>>教师工会

>I meant actual unions.

>我说的是真正的工会。

>I'm pro union

>我是支持工会的

>You know except for those unions, those don't count

>当然，除了那些工会，那些不算数

>>1535791

>So then they lied when they said it set them back decades

>那他们当初说打击让伊朗倒退几十年就是在撒谎

Trump randomly said that right after the strikes. The CIA and DoD said 1-2 years after more analysis.

那是特朗普在空袭后随口说的。中情局(CIA)和国防部(DoD)经过更多分析后说的是1到2年。

>>1535792

>>I'm pro union

>>我是支持工会的

>>You know except for those unions, those don't count

>>当然，除了那些工会，那些不算数

I'm not Sen. Fetterman, dipshit.

我又不是费特曼参议员，蠢货。

>>1535801

A union of public employees isn't really a union.

政府雇员的工会算不上真正的工会。

>>1535799

>Trump randomly said that right after the strikes. The CIA and DoD said 1-2 years after more analysis.

>那是特朗普在空袭后随口说的。中情局(CIA)和国防部(DoD)经过更多分析后说的是1到2年。

Funny because Hegseth agreed and then said any of the reports saying they weren't were fake news

好笑的是赫格塞斯同意了这个说法，然后又说任何与他们不一致的报告都是假新闻。

>https://abcnews.com/Politics/hegseth-calls-trump-directed-iran-strikes-resounding-success/story?id=123229887

And then repeated that their nuclear sites were "obliterated" like... two months ago?

然后还一再重复他们的核设施被「彻底摧毁」了……大概两个月前才说的？

>https://www.rev.com/transcripts/supplemental-funding-request-hearing

>>1535805

>Funny because Hegseth agreed

>好笑的是赫格塞斯同意了这个说法

Right after the strikes, yes. Check the article date: June 26.

空袭刚结束说的，没错。看看那篇文章的日期：6月26日。

>then repeated that their nuclear sites were "obliterated" like... two months ago

>然后还一再重复他们的核设施被「彻底摧毁」了……大概两个月前才说的

Yes. There has been a massive bombing campaign since June 2025.

没错。自2025年6月以来就一直有一场大规模轰炸行动。

Are you retarded?

你是脑残吗？

>>1535809

>Right after the strikes, yes. Check the article date: June 26.

>空袭刚结束说的，没错。看看那篇文章的日期：6月26日。

So then he lied and when people tried to point out that he lied he called them fake news and threats to national security.

那他就是在撒谎，而且当有人想指出他撒谎时，他就骂人家是假新闻、是国家安全威胁。

>Yes. There has been a massive bombing campaign since June 2025.

>没错。自2025年6月以来就一直有一场大规模轰炸行动。

No, he was talking about Midnight Hammer specifically. Hegseth legitimately tried to argue that somehow Iran's nuclear sites were completely obliterated but also we need to keep doing so because they can still develop nukes. You don't see the problem there?

不对，他说的是「午夜之锤」行动本身。赫格塞斯一本正经地想论证伊朗的核设施已经被完全摧毁了，但又说我们得继续打，因为他们还能搞出核弹。你看不出这里面的毛病吗？

>>1535805

>And then repeated that their nuclear sites were "obliterated" like... two months ago?

>然后还一再重复他们的核设施被「彻底摧毁」了……大概两个月前才说的？

I don't think ESL shill's AI model is sophisticated enough to answer the question your posing

我觉得ESL狗托那个AI模型的水平还不够回答你提的这个问题。

>>1535811

>So then he lied and when people tried to point out that he lied he called them fake news and threats to national security

>那他就是在撒谎，而且当有人想指出他撒谎时，他就骂人家是假新闻、是国家安全威胁

No. CIA and DoD assessment came later.

不。中情局和国防部的评估是后来才出的。

>was talking about Midnight Hammer specifically.

>他说的是「午夜之锤」行动本身。

Post the testimony you're referring to.

把你说的那份证词贴出来。

>>1535816

>No. CIA and DoD assessment came later.

>不。中情局和国防部的评估是后来才出的。

It was publicly released later and matched the leaked assessment. The same one he declared them liars for

后来是公开发布了，内容和泄露的评估一致。就是被他骂作骗子的那份。

>Post the testimony you're referring to.

>把你说的那份证词贴出来。

There's a few.

有好几段呢。

>Part of the reason President Trump had to have the courage to do what he did after Midnight Hammer is that they didn't give up their ambitions even though their nuclear sites had been obliterated.

>特朗普总统之所以能在「午夜之锤」之后有勇气那样做，部分原因是尽管核设施已被彻底摧毁，他们仍没有放弃自己的野心。

>That's why Midnight Hammer was undertaken to obliterate their nuclear sites. That's why we're watching their nuclear sites.

>所以我们才发动「午夜之锤」行动去彻底摧毁他们的核设施。这也是我们一直在监视他们核设施的原因。

>The nuclear sites under Midnight Hammer were obliterated, but Iranians foolishly continued to attempt to pursue nuclear capabilities

>「午夜之锤」行动摧毁的核设施已被彻底夷平，但伊朗人愚蠢地继续试图追求核能力

Sounds a whole lot like he's paradoxically saying Midnight Hammer was a complete success while also trying to justify actions that would be unnecessary if it actually was.

听着非常像他在自相矛盾：一边说「午夜之锤」取得完全成功，一边又在为那些行动辩护——而如果真成功了，那些行动根本没必要。

>>1535818

>Sounds a whole lot like he's paradoxically saying Midnight Hammer was a complete success while also trying to justify actions that would be unnecessary if it actually was.

>听着非常像他在自相矛盾：一边说「午夜之锤」取得完全成功，一边又在为那些行动辩护——而如果真成功了，那些行动根本没必要。

Anon

>but Iranians foolishly continued to attempt to pursue nuclear capabilities

>但伊朗人愚蠢地继续试图追求核能力

>>1535818

>It was publicly released later and matched the leaked assessment

>后来是公开发布了，内容和泄露的评估一致

You're conflating damage to the mountain to damage to their nuclear program writ large.

你把对山体的破坏和对他们整个核计划的破坏混为一谈了。

>>1535819

How can they do that if we obliterated them anon? One of the senators even called him out on saying this while Iran was clearly still able to make missiles

老哥，如果我们把他们彻底摧毁了，他们怎么可能还做得到？有位参议员当场质问他，说伊朗显然还能造导弹。

>No, we're not. So listen to this, you also say that you made the missile program, "Destroyed and made combat ineffective Iran's entire ballistic missile production capacity. Every company that builds every component of those missiles has been functionally defeated and destroyed. And that the missile program existing stockpiles were depleted and decimated almost completely ineffective." So why are there missiles left to hit Jordan and result in the loss of life of our brave men and women?

>不是的。听好了，你还说你们的导弹计划「摧毁了伊朗全部弹道导弹生产能力，使其丧失战斗力。生产这些导弹每一个零部件的企业都已被有效击败和摧毁。导弹项目的现有库存已被耗尽、摧毁，几乎完全失效。」那为什么还有导弹剩下来打约旦、害我们英勇的官兵丧命？

And his response was effectively "well, uh, they have secret ones".

而他的回答基本上就是「呃，他们有藏起来的秘密导弹」。

>As we stated from the beginning, the Iranian defense industrial base is effectively gone, but they do have underground facilities, because they're the world's leading state sponsor of terrorism, and they've spent 47 years trying to hide their missiles under mountains-

>正如我们一开始就说的，伊朗的国防工业基础实际上已经没了，但他们确实有地下设施，因为他们是全球头号恐怖主义赞助国，他们花了47年把导弹藏在山底下——

Which sounds a whole lot like we didn't obliterate their missile or nuclear facilities.

这听着非常像是我们根本没摧毁他们的导弹或核设施。

>>1535818

>>1535819

I don't get the argument. If Midnight Hammer failed, as you say, and the DoD and CIA confirmed Iran was still pursuing weaponization, what's the problem with the current strikes?

我没搞懂你们的论点。如果像你说的「午夜之锤」失败了，而且国防部和中央情报局也确认伊朗还在搞武器化，那现在继续空袭又有什么问题？

>>1535822

>How can they do that if we obliterated them anon

>老哥，如果我们把他们彻底摧毁了，他们怎么可能还做得到

Because their entire nuclear energy industry is not under one mountain.

因为他们的整个核能产业不是都塞在一座山底下。

>senators even called him out on saying this while Iran was clearly still able to make missiles

>有位参议员当场质问他，说伊朗显然还能造导弹

Yes. They (and you) are conflating the Iranian ability to MAKE missiles with hidden Iranian missile stockpiles.

对。他们（还有你）把伊朗「制造」导弹的能力和藏起来的导弹库存混为一谈了。

And, again, what's the argument. If Midnight Hammer failed, and if Iran can still make missiles, what's the problem with the current strikes?

还有，我再问一遍，你们的论点到底是什么。如果「午夜之锤」失败了，如果伊朗还能造导弹，那现在继续空袭有什么问题？

>>1535823

Because at the same time, this admin is also claiming it succeeded. Are they lying?

因为与此同时，这届政府也宣称行动成功了。他们是在撒谎吗？

>>1535826

>Are they lying

>他们是在撒谎吗

So this is about you and your vandetta against the admin and not about Iran and nukes?

所以这事儿根本跟伊朗和核弹没关系，就是你跟这届政府的私人恩怨呗？

>>1535826

>Are they lying?

>他们是在撒谎吗？

ESL shill confirmed they're lying

ESL狗托确认了他们就是在撒谎。

>>1535825

>Because their entire nuclear energy industry is not under one mountain.

>因为他们的整个核能产业不是都塞在一座山底下。

So then why does he claim, REPEATEDLY, that their entire nuclear capacity was "obliterated". He doesn't claim "we destroyed their major lab", he claims the entire capacity. Why is that?

那他为什么一遍又一遍地宣称他们的整个核能力被「彻底摧毁」了？他不是说「我们摧毁了他们的主要实验室」，他说的是整个核能力。为什么？

>Yes. They (and you) are conflating the Iranian ability to MAKE missiles with hidden Iranian missile stockpiles.

>对。他们（还有你）把伊朗「制造」导弹的能力和藏起来的导弹库存混为一谈了。

Then why does even he bring up underground facilities and likewise claims they destroyed their stockpiles as well despite obvious evidence to the contrary? In this same hearing, he also tries to claim they were successful in that regard, which even the senators at the hearing take issue with and call him out on. When he's called out on it, he sputtered and accused them of disrespecting the troops instead of answering

那他自己为什么又提起地下设施，还宣称连库存也一并摧毁了，尽管证据明摆着相反？在同一场听证会上，他还想宣称这方面也成功了，连在场的参议员都不买账、当面戳穿他。被戳穿之后，他支支吾吾，不正面回答，反而指责人家不尊重军队。

>Three weeks later, you declared victory. That was now nearly four months ago. Three weeks after you'd already said Iran's military was "destroyed" and "combat ineffective." You said, "Operation Epic Fury was a historic and overwhelming victory." You said Iran's military had been rendered "combat ineffective for years to come." And you stated we had "achieved every single objective." Were those accurate statements?

>三周后，你宣布胜利。那已经是将近四个月前的事了。而你在此之前三周刚说过伊朗军队已被「摧毁」、「丧失战斗力」。你说过「」史诗怒火「行动是一场历史性的、压倒性的胜利。」你说过伊朗军队已被打得「今后数年丧失战斗力」。你还说我们「实现了每一个目标」。这些话都准确吗？

>It certainly was on behalf of the men and women in uniform, a historic military victory over Iran. There are other-

>这当然是为了那些穿军装的男女军人，是对伊朗的历史性军事胜利。还有其他——

>Had Iran military been rendered "combat ineffective for years to come"? That was statement that you made four months ago.

>伊朗军队是否已经被打得「今后数年丧失战斗力」？那是你四个月前说的。

He then tried to say that their entire military was destroyed, yet then admitted they did actually still have capabilities before trying to claim the real point was to stop them from acquiring a nuclear weapon, despite the fact he earlier in the same hearing had said they successfully destroyed all of their labs.

然后他先说伊朗整个军队都被摧毁了，接着又承认人家确实还有能力，再改口说真正的目标是阻止伊朗获得核武器——尽管就在同一场听证会早些时候，他还说过他们成功摧毁了对方所有实验室。

>It's been set back not just years, but likely decades considering we can't [inaudible 03:14:58] the level it did before and not even close. It doesn't mean it doesn't have capabilities.

>伊朗的进度不仅被拖慢了几年，很可能倒退了几十年，因为我们没法[03:14:58处听不清]恢复到以前的水平，差得还远。这不代表它没有能力了。

>>1535828

Did they lie about Midnight Hammer's effectiveness, yes or no?

他们有没有谎报「午夜之锤」的效果？是还是否？

And if they did lie about that and continue to lie about that, why should we believe their claims now?

如果他们谎报了这件事并且还在继续撒谎，那我们现在凭什么信他们的说法？

>>1535831

>he claims the entire capacity. Why is that?

>他说的是整个核能力。为什么？

Because we did destroy their ability to enrich to weapons grade.

因为我们确实摧毁了他们浓缩到武器级的能力。

>Then why does even he bring up underground facilities and likewise claims they destroyed their stockpiles as well despite obvious evidence to the contrary

>那他自己为什么又提起地下设施，还宣称连库存也一并摧毁了，尽管证据明摆着相反

Because the facilities are undergound and we have done significant damage. Doesn't mean "all" or "every".

因为设施在地下，而我们确实造成了重大破坏。但这不等于「全部」或「每一个」。

>he also tries to claim they were successful in that regard

>他还想宣称这方面也成功了

We have been. You can track Iranian missile launches. They are down by like 98%.

确实成功啊。伊朗的导弹发射是可以追踪的。发射量降了大概98%。

>He then tried to say that their entire military was destroyed

>然后他先说伊朗整个军队都被摧毁了

You're putting words in his mouth.

你这是往他嘴里塞话。

So, basically, your argument is you don't like Sec. Def's choice of verbage. Okay. Wow.

所以 basically 你的论点是：你不喜欢国防部长的措辞。行吧。服了。

Fetterman is the only Democrat worthy of the name. The rest are liggerals and communists.

费特曼是唯一配得上民主党这个名号的。剩下的都是自由派(谐音梗)和共产主义者。

>>1535834

>Did they lie about Midnight Hammer's effectiveness

>他们有没有谎报「午夜之锤」的效果

No. But they were wrong about it.

没有。但他们估计错了。

>why should we believe their claims now?

>那我们现在凭什么信他们的说法？

Because we have done more than 13,000 strikes, hit more than 1,400 weapons manufacturing facilities, 2,000 CnC nodes, and 400+ missile siloes/stockpiles.

因为我们已经执行了超过13000次打击，打击了1400多个武器制造设施、2000个指挥控制节点，还有400多个导弹发射井/弹药库。

The logical conclusion is that they thought Midnight Fury would do the job. Realized they were wrong and are doing it properly now.

合理的解释是：他们本以为「午夜之锤」一击就够了，后来发现想错了，现在才开始认真干。

>>1535841

>Because we did destroy their ability to enrich to weapons grade.

>因为我们确实摧毁了他们浓缩到武器级的能力。

Then how and why were they in danger of acquiring a nuclear weapon?

那他们当初怎么会、为什么会面临获得核武器的危险？

>Because the facilities are undergound and we have done significant damage. Doesn't mean "all" or "every".

>因为设施在地下，而我们确实造成了重大破坏。但这不等于「全部」或「每一个」。

>You're putting words in his mouth.

>你这是往他嘴里塞话。

Actually his words were

他原话其实是这样的

>They didn't have a Navy any longer. It was completely sunk. Their missiles were buried underneath a lot of their underground facilities and their defense industrial base has been almost completely destroyed. So as far as a military assessment of Iran's capabilities, it didn't mean by any stretch of the imagination absolute zero, but their considerably at the lowest level they've been a very long time.

>他们已经没有海军了。舰队全部沉没。他们的导弹埋在大量地下设施底下，他们的国防工业基础几乎被完全摧毁。所以就对伊朗军事能力的评估而言，无论如何也谈不上绝对归零，但已经处在很长时间以来的最低水平。

Which admittedly isn't all, but he's also arguing "almost completely destroyed" which doesn't fit with their continued ability to attack which they are still doing to this day.

诚然这不等于「全部」，但他还在说「几乎被完全摧毁」，这跟伊朗至今仍在进行的打击能力对不上。

>>1535846

>Then how and why were they in danger of acquiring a nuclear weapon?

>那他们当初怎么会、为什么会面临获得核武器的危险？

There are other ways of making them. Obviously.

造核弹还有别的路子。这不是明摆着吗。

>almost completely destroyed

>几乎被完全摧毁

Correct statement by Hegseth.

赫格塞斯说得没错。

>>1535844

>No. But they were wrong about it.

>没有。但他们估计错了。

So then why does he continue to say it was a complete success? Per the hearing two months ago

那他为什么还在说那是一次完全成功的行动？根据两个月前的那场听证会。

>That's why Midnight Hammer was undertaken to obliterate their nuclear sites.

>所以我们才发动「午夜之锤」行动去彻底摧毁他们的核设施。

>The nuclear sites under Midnight Hammer were obliterated

>「午夜之锤」行动摧毁的核设施已被彻底夷平

>Because we have done more than 13,000 strikes, hit more than 1,400 weapons manufacturing facilities, 2,000 CnC nodes, and 400+ missile siloes/stockpiles.

>因为我们已经执行了超过13000次打击，打击了1400多个武器制造设施、2000个指挥控制节点，还有400多个导弹发射井/弹药库。

And yet despite repeated assurances of victory and claims of complete domination, the strait remains closed. Interesting.

然而尽管一遍遍地保证胜利、宣称完全压制对手，海峡依然关闭着。有意思。

>>1535848

>There are other ways of making them. Obviously.

>造核弹还有别的路子。这不是明摆着吗。

So then Midnight Hammer failed to obliterate their nuclear program.

那这么说「午夜之锤」没能彻底摧毁他们的核计划。

>Correct statement by Hegseth.

>赫格塞斯说得没错。

And yet here we are two months later from THAT statement and the strait is still effectively closed due to regular attacks.

而那句话之后过了两个月，海峡因为频繁袭击实际上依然处于关闭状态。

>>1535850

>So then Midnight Hammer failed to obliterate their nuclear program.

>那这么说「午夜之锤」没能彻底摧毁他们的核计划。

Yes, and?

是的，那又怎样？

>strait is still effectively closed due to regular attacks.

>海峡因为频繁袭击实际上依然处于关闭状态

Ships transit every day and the "attacks" are from drones not their navy (sunk), airforce (blown up) or missiles (massively degraded).

船每天都在通行，那些「袭击」来自无人机，而不是他们的海军（已沉没）、空军（已被炸烂）或导弹（已被大幅削弱）。

>>1535856

>Yes, and?

>对，然后呢？

Meaning they lied about its success.

也就是说他们对行动的成功撒了谎。

>Ships transit every day and the "attacks" are from drones not their navy (sunk), airforce (blown up) or missiles (massively degraded).

>船每天都在通行，那些「袭击」来自无人机，而不是他们的海军（已沉没）、空军（已被炸烂）或导弹（已被大幅削弱）。

10% of pre-war. Also, they literally fired new missiles at us yesterday.

只有战前的10%。而且昨天他们还实打实地朝我们发射了新导弹。

>https://nypost.com/2026/09/09/world-news/iran-fires-electro-optical-missile-for-the-first-time-on-us-warships/

>>1535849

>So then why does he continue to say it was a complete success

>那他为什么还在说那是一次完全成功的行动

Because the strike against the mountain was a success.

因为对那座山的打击确实成功了。

>the strait remains closed. Interesting.

>海峡依然关闭着。有意思。

The US has total air supremacy and naval dominance. The strait is "closed" because insurance companies won't insure ships who pass through because Iran can and does use cheap drones to attack them.

美国拥有绝对的制空权和海上霸权。海峡「关闭」是因为保险公司不肯给通行船只承保——伊朗能用廉价无人机袭击商船，而且确实在这么干。

>>1535850

>Midnight Hammer failed to obliterate their nuclear program.

>那这么说「午夜之锤」没能彻底摧毁他们的核计划。

Yes.

> and the strait is still effectively closed due to regular attacks

>而海峡因为频繁袭击实际上依然处于关闭状态

Yes. Iran also no longer has a conventional military, or significant rocket stockpiles, or air defense.

对。伊朗也不再拥有常规军队、可观的火箭库存或防空力量了。

>>1535881

>The strait is "closed" because insurance companies won't insure ships who pass through because Iran can and does use cheap drones to attack them.

>海峡「关闭」是因为保险公司不肯给通行船只承保——伊朗能用廉价无人机袭击商船，而且确实在这么干。

Very long way to say it's closed.

绕这么大弯子，其实就是在说海峡关了。

>>1535884

>Okay sure you killed Irans senior leaders

>好吧，你们是杀了伊朗的高层领导人

>And their nuke program

>还端了他们的核计划

>And obliterated their military industrial complex

>还把他们的军工复合体夷为平地

>And their navy

>还有他们的海军

>And their airforce

>还有他们的空军

>And have destroyed any means they had to defend themselves

>还摧毁了他们一切自卫手段

>And have them under a blockade that has caused food shortages and a fiscal apocalypse

>还对他们搞封锁，导致粮食短缺和财政崩溃

>But the risk profile is too high for Lloyd's of London to offer policies to commercial shipping so lmao total Iranian victory!

>但劳合社(Lloyd's of London)觉得风险太高，不肯给商船承保，所以哈哈哈伊朗大获全胜！

It's becoming increasingly apparent that you're operating in bad faith.

越来越明显，你就是在不讲道理地搅浑水。

>>1535892

Oh wow so oil must be getting through the strait right just as much as it did before the war, right?

哇哦，那石油现在通过海峡的流量肯定和战前一样多咯，对吧？

...right?

>>1535881

>The US has total air supremacy and naval dominance.

>美国拥有绝对的制空权和海上霸权。

And the strait's still closed and they're still hitting our shit.

然而海峡还是关着，他们还在打我们的东西。

You keep banging on about this point as if it means a fucking thing. As if the biggest army in the history of mankind beating Iran is some kind of accomplishment. Absolutely nobody didn't think the US couldn't beat Iran militarily you dense motherfucker.

你就揪着这一点不放，好像它有他妈什么意义似的。人类历史上最庞大的军队打赢伊朗算哪门子成就？根本没人怀疑美国在军事上打不过伊朗，你这死脑筋的蠢货。

>The strait is "closed" because insurance companies won't insure ships who pass through because Iran can and does use cheap drones to attack them.

>海峡「关闭」是因为保险公司不肯给通行船只承保——伊朗能用廉价无人机袭击商船，而且确实在这么干。

Yes. That means it's closed. That is what the strait being closed means. Well done.

对。这就叫关闭。海峡被关闭就是这个意思。恭喜你答对了。

>>1535892

strait status?

海峡现状如何？

>>1535892

>If you ignore that everything I said is a demonstrable lie...

>只要无视我说的全是能被证明的谎言……

I can't believe your bosses review your work and are satisfied, how embarrassing is it to be a freelance shill?

真不敢相信你的老板审了你的活还表示满意，当个外包狗托有多丢人啊？

>>1535893

>But the risk profile is too high for Lloyd's of London to offer policies to commercial shipping so lmao total Iranian victory!

>但劳合社(Lloyd's of London)觉得风险太高，不肯给商船承保，所以哈哈哈伊朗大获全胜！

I can only conclude that you're a terminally BROWN member of the "global South"

我只能得出结论：你是「全球南方」里一个不可救药的棕色人种。

>>1535894

>That means it's closed.

>这就叫关闭。

USN is operating freely in it. Also, of the strait is MORE closed from Iran than it is the US, who closed it?

美国海军在里面自由通行。另外，如果海峡对伊朗比对美国关得更死，那到底是谁把它关上的？

>>1535898

Anon oil still isn't getting through the strait. We get literally a 10th of what it used to be on a good day.

老哥，石油还是过不了海峡。状态好的时候也只有过去的十分之一。

>>1535900

>who closed it?

>那到底是谁把它关上的？

The US closed it, so its Trump's fault

是美国关的，所以这是特朗普的错。

Unless you want to claim its Israel's fault because they forced Trump into their war to avoid releasing tapes of Trump fucking kids

除非你想说这是以色列的错，说是他们逼特朗普替他们打仗，好换来不公布特朗普搞小孩的录像带。

>>1535902

>But the risk profile is too high for Lloyd's of London to offer policies to commercial shipping so lmao total Iranian victory!

>但劳合社(Lloyd's of London)觉得风险太高，不肯给商船承保，所以哈哈哈伊朗大获全胜！

>>1535900

>USN is operating freely in it.

>美国海军在里面自由运作。

Ok but are the same amount of tankers passing through as before?

行，那通过海峡的油轮数量和以前一样多吗？

Hint: This is a yes or no question.

提示：这是一道是非题。

>>1535904

Meds.

>>1535906

you realize if that's the case, ships don't pass through and we still lose access to 20% of the world's oil supply?

你意识到没有，如果真是那样，船不过海峡，我们照样失去全球20%的石油供应？

>>1535908

Don't tell us you're taking them esl shill, just take them

别告诉我们你在采纳他们的观点，ESL狗托，直接认了就行。

>>1535907

>Iran closes the strait!

>伊朗把海峡关了！

>Okay, okay the USN is operating freely in the strait.

>好吧好吧，美国海军在海峡里自由通行。

>And the Iranian navy isnt

>而伊朗海军不行

>And the only ships that pass through it are the ones the USN allows to pass

>而且只有美国海军允许的船才能通过

Straits closed (for Iran)

海峡关闭了（对伊朗而言）。

>>1535909

Iran losses 100% of its oil income. And food.

伊朗损失100%的石油收入。还有粮食。

>>1535911

then why are we only getting a 10th of the oil we did before?

那为什么我们拿到的石油只有过去的十分之一？

>>1535911

so you can't answer the question

所以你就是回答不了这个问题。

>>1535913

>>1535914

>the risk profile is too high for Lloyd's of London to offer policies to commercial shipping so lmao total Iranian victory

>但劳合社(Lloyd's of London)觉得风险太高，不肯给商船承保，所以哈哈哈伊朗大获全胜

>>1535912

Anon you realize Iran gets food from places other than the strait right?

老哥，你知道伊朗的粮食不是全靠海峡那条路吧？

Also, cool. Still doesn't change how we've been cut off from 20% of the world's oil supply and the US' reserves are rapidly heading towards their limits.

还有，挺好。但这改变不了我们已经和全球20%的石油供应断了联系，而美国的储备正在迅速见底这个事实。

>>1535916

shill anon, nobody is falling for your false equivalence. tell us what the diesel prices are today, and explain why

狗托老哥，没人上你那套虚假等价的当。告诉我们今天柴油什么价，并解释一下为什么。

>>1535917

>Still doesn't change how we've been cut off from 20% of the world's oil supply and the US' reserves are rapidly heading towards their limits.

>但这改变不了我们已经和全球20%的石油供应断了联系，而美国的储备正在迅速见底这个事实。

US is a net exporter of oil, dumbass.

美国是石油净出口国，蠢货。

>>1535919

Then why are our reserves at the lowest levels since 1982 and still dropping, while gas prices spike to high heaven?

那为什么我们的储备降到了1982年以来的最低点还在继续跌，油价却一路飙升上天？

>>1535919

>US is a net exporter of oil, dumbass.

>美国是石油净出口国，蠢货。

The US is a net exporter of REFINED oil, dumbass. It is a net importer of raw crude.

美国是「成品油」净出口国，蠢货。原油是净进口的。

>>1535921

>Then why are our reserves at the lowest levels since 1982

>那为什么我们的储备降到了1982年以来的最低点

Because Biden release a whole bunch in 2022 and Trump released a whole bunch at the start of the war.

因为拜登在2022年放了一大批，特朗普在开战时又放了一大批。

>Dropping

Nope.

We export oil. You fucking retard.

我们出口石油。你他妈这个智障。

>>1535924

>we

nobody thinks you're american

没人觉得你是美国人。

>>1535924

>Nope.

Odd because we only hit the 1982 levels now. Which, you know, implies that it keeps getting lower.

怪了，我们偏偏是现在才降到1982年的水平。这你懂的，说明它还在一路走低。

>We export oil. You fucking retard.

>我们出口石油。你他妈这个智障。

We export processed oil. We import raw crude.

我们出口的是成品油。原油是进口的。

>>1535923

>It is a net importer of raw crude.

>原油是净进口的。

Yes. From Canada. 8% comes from the ME.

对。从加拿大进的。8%来自中东。

>>1535926

>Which, you know, implies that it keeps getting lower.

>这你懂的，说明它还在一路走低。

No. That's not how the strategic reserve works. We're not dipping into it day by day.

不。战略储备不是这么运转的。我们不是每天从里面舀油。

>>1535927

Well good thing we didn't piss them off or are in the middle of a trade war with them then, huh-

幸好我们没有把他们惹毛，也没有正在跟他们打贸易战，对吧——

oh wait.

哦等等。

>>1535928

anon, you have a fake job. you don't have the right to explain how anything works

老哥，你干的是假工作。你没资格解释任何东西是怎么运作的。

>>1535928

Ok then why did we hit the lowest levels since 1982 last week and not when Trump sold at the start of the war?

那为什么是上周降到1982年以来的最低点，而不是特朗普开战时抛售储备那会儿？

you do understand when it is announced that a thing has hit a new low, that means that thing has been decreasing right?

你明白「某样东西创出新低」这个说法意味着它一直在下降吧？

>>1535933

Because we're still doing the release authorized in March by Trump.

因为特朗普3月授权的那批释放现在还在进行。

>>1535935

Ok but that still means the overall amount in the reserve is lowering then, correct? Even if it was planned, there is physically less oil in the reserves, right?

行，但这还是意味着储备总量在下降，对吧？就算是计划内的，储备里的石油在物理上就是变少了，没错吧？

>>1535938

Who the fuck are you arguing with?

你到底在跟谁争呢？

Your initial argument is

你最初的论点是

>We're running out of oil! The strategic reserve!

>我们没油了！战略储备啊！

And now that you've realized this is the same release authorized in Q1 you're pivoting.

现在你发现这和第一季度授权的那批释放是同一回事，你开始转移话题了。

>>1535940

here you go again, confusing being proven wrong over and over again with arguing

你又来了，把一次次被证明是错当成在辩论。

>>1535940

Are we refilling the reserve? Let me answer that

我们在回填储备吗？让我替你回答

>No

Can we afford to do another sell if the need arises? Let me also answer that

真需要的话我们还能再来一次抛售吗？这个我也替你答了

>No

We're running out of oil retard. At least in regards to what is available to the general population.

我们的石油快用完了，智障。至少对普通老百姓能拿到的油来说是这样。

>>1535942

>The strategic reserve! We're running out of oil!

>战略储备！我们没油了！

>This was authorized months ago, have the 9th biggest proven oil reserves on the planet, and were energy independent, we literally cannot run out of oil

>这可是几个月前就授权的，我们拥有全球第九大已探明石油储量，能源完全自给，根本不可能没油

>Well, uhh, the strategic reserve is low so I win.

>呃，那个，战略储备很低所以我赢了。

You do you bud.

你开心就好，哥们。

>>1535943

>We're running out of oil retard.

>我们的石油快用完了，智障。

Lmao >>1535944

笑死 >>1535944

>>1535944

>were energy independent

>能源完全自给

No we aren't lol. We still need to import crude even if it is from Canada. Not to mention oil is a worldwide commodity so even if we were completely only reliant on our own oil, the price would still fucking spike because of now upwards of 30% of the world's oil being unavailable. In case you didn't know, higher oil prices means higher gas prices, higher gas prices means higher everything else prices.

才不是呢，哈哈。就算原油来自加拿大，我们也还是得进口。更别说石油是全球性大宗商品，就算我们完全只用自家的油，价格照样会他妈飙起来，因为现在全球30%以上的石油都供应不上了。不知道你清不清楚，油价高意味着油价高，油价高意味着什么都贵。

Also, there is a limit to how low we can bring the strategic reserve before problems arise with the salt caverns it is kept in, and then another limit that'll cause oil supplies to be restricted in the name of conservation. What happens when we hit the end of the barrels Trump sold and we then still need to withdraw more?

另外，战略储备降到多低是有限度的，再低储存它的盐穴就会出问题；还有另一条线，越过了就会以「节约」为名限制石油供应。等特朗普卖掉的最后一桶油见了底、而我们还得继续提取的时候，会发生什么？

>>1535949

>What happens when we hit the end of the barrels Trump sold and we then still need to withdraw more?

>等特朗普卖掉的最后一桶油见了底、而我们还得继续提取的时候，会发生什么？

They'll pivot and pretend its democrats fault, probably namedropping Biden because he's the only name MIGA is programmed to recognize

他们到时候会转移话题，假装是民主党的错，估计还会点名拜登，因为MAGA仔的脑子里只认得这个名字。

>>1535946

Anon if we hit the point where we cannot withdraw from the reserve out of either fear of not having enough for critical aspects of the country or the salt caverns themselves, we're still effectively out of oil.

老哥，一旦到了没法再从储备里提取的地步——不管是担心国家关键领域不够用，还是盐穴本身撑不住——那我们在实际意义上就是没油了。

Will we hit flat 0 oil in our supply? No.

我们的供应会真正归零吗？不会。

Will we hit the point where oil will be reserved exclusively for essential infrastructure and the military to prevent us from hitting the level where the salt caves start sealing up? Yes.

我们会到那个地步吗——石油只留给关键基础设施和军队，以防盐穴开始封堵？会。

Friendly reminder: Grindr goes down every time the 'pubs'r in town, 'cause even fags hate Democrat gaboys.

友情提示：共和党人进城的时候Grindr每次都宕机，因为连基佬都受不了民主党的舔狗。

>>1535675

democrats facing reality challenge difficulty impossible.

民主党人面对现实挑战：难度——地狱级。

>>1535691

but you gushed so much when someone wrote a hitpiece about kirk from the intercept or huffingtonpost.

可 The Intercept 或者赫芬顿邮报写柯克的黑稿时，你捧得可起劲了。

Democrats are such hypocrites

民主党人可真是虚伪到家了。

>>1535718

ahh yes the typical democrat every vote not for Hilary may as well be a vote for trump. and now you wonder why the world wants you exterminated

啊，典型民主党论调：不给希拉里投票就等于投特朗普。现在你倒奇怪全世界为什么想灭了你们。

>retarded ESL shills strawman emporium

>智障ESL狗托稻草人展览馆

The humiliation fetish is real

这屈辱癖是真的。

Politician is a Democrat

政客是民主党人

Politician has a stroke or other mental impairment

政客中风或出现其他脑损伤

Politician becomes a Republican

政客变成了共和党人

Many, many such cases.

这样的例子太多了。

>>1535951

i've yet to meet a democrat who wasn't either a mentally ill narcassist narcassist, a scheming fraudster or an extreme fascist who loves self-projecting by pretending they're antifa.

我到现在还没遇到过一个民主党人不是这样的：要么是有精神病的自恋狂，要么是处心积虑的骗子，要么是极端法西斯，一边装反法西斯(antifa)一边把自己干的事投射到别人身上。

have you considered that maybe the world is shit because you are to blame instead of blaming anything and everyone besides yourself you mentally ill leftist twat

你有没有想过，也许世界这么烂是因为你自己的锅，而不是你这种有病的左派贱人只怪别人就是不怪自己？

>>1535995

you're not american and you don't go outside, you've never met a democrat period

你不是美国人也不出门，你这辈子就没见过民主党人。

>>1535997

see what i mean you're such a retard you need to self-project and make up assertions because you can't live in a reality where the vast majority of people hate your guts.

看到没，你就是这么个智障，只会投射和编造断言，因为你没法接受绝大多数人恨透了你这个现实。

>>1536001

nobody has ever seen what you meant, your posts are meaningless contrarianism laden with typos

没人看出过你想表达什么，你的帖子就是满屏错字的抬杠，毫无意义。

>>1535995

I have, but none of them know anything about politics and just go with the general feeling, instilled by the billionaire media, that Democrats are somehow good people.

我见过，但他们没一个懂政治，只是顺着亿万富翁媒体灌输的总体印象，觉得民主党人不知怎么就是好人。

esl shill is talking to himself again

ESL水军又在自言自语了

>>1536010

Stop posting here, retard.

别在这发了，智障。

>>1536013

how would i make fun of your existence if i stop posting?

我要是不发帖了，还怎么嘲讽你这号人的存在呢？

>>1536017

You aren't. If you're trying to, you're simply worthless.

你没在嘲讽。如果你在尝试，那你也只是个废物。

>>1536019

that's why you're begging me to stop, right

所以才求着我别发了，对吧。

>>1536021

Your disruptive shitposts are worthless on this already low quality board.

你这个板本来就够烂了，你那些捣乱的垃圾帖更是毫无价值。

Just get banned again then.

那就再被禁一次呗。

>>1536022

that's cute projection

投射得真可爱。