Charlie Cucked: MIGA fucks up everything, even creating a martyr

Charlie Kirk has been transformed into an internet laughing stock, with his legacy destroyed by grifters and his wife.

查理·柯克(Charlie Kirk)已经沦为网络笑柄，他的遗产被敛财者和他的妻子毁掉。

https://theintercept.com/2026/09/07/charlie-kirk-internet-meme/

In the year since he was gunned down at an event at Utah Valley University, the Turning Point USA founder has gone from a man cut down in his prime to a recurring internet meme, complete with an AI-generated song, “We Are Charlie Kirk,” which hit No. 1 on Spotify’s Viral 50 U.S. ranking. Audio of his killing became a TikTok sound for girlie outfit transformation videos; he’s been inserted into movies like “Avatar” and “The Odyssey”; he’s been AI’d into Studio Ghibli-style art, the final scene of “The Sopranos,” and the video game “Grand Theft Auto.” Even the moment of his death has gotten the meme treatment, with parodies depicting him with Jeffrey Epstein and Benjamin Netanyahu.

自他在犹他谷大学的活动上被枪杀至今一年，这位 Turning Point USA 创始人已从盛年陨落者变成了一个反复出现的网络梗：配套的 AI 生成歌曲《我们是查理·柯克》登顶 Spotify 美国 Viral 50 榜；他遇害的音频成了 TikTok 上女生变装视频的音效；他被 P 进《阿凡达》《奥德赛》等电影；被 AI 化成吉卜力风格画、《黑道家族》终幕，还有《侠盗猎车手》。连他死亡的那一刻都被梗化了，出现了他与杰弗里·爱泼斯坦和本雅明·内塔尼亚胡同框的恶搞。

The ridicule comes as a product of the American right’s insistence that Kirk’s violent death be taken seriously. They fought back hard against the meme-making and serious critique alike, weaponizing the conservative college-whisperer’s death to broadly crack down on free speech.

嘲讽之所以出现，是因为美国右翼坚持要求大家严肃对待柯克的横死。他们对玩梗和严肃批评都强力反击，把这位保守派校园导师的死武器化，用来大范围打压言论自由。

President Trump and his allies almost immediately blamed Democrats and “the radical left,” without evidence, for Kirk’s assassination. At the Department of Defense, Secretary Pete Hegseth promised to investigate whether members of the armed forces were inadequately mournful and terminate them. The State Department revoked visas of noncitizens who “celebrated” Kirk’s death. Local cops got in on the civil rights-bashing fun, too: A Tennessee man was arrested for posting a meme in the wake of Kirk’s death, amid a wave of firings in the state on similarly unstable grounds.

特朗普总统及其盟友几乎立刻在没有任何证据的情况下，把柯克遇刺归咎于民主党和“极左”。国防部方面，部长皮特·赫格塞斯(Pete Hegseth)承诺调查军中是否有人员悼念不足，并将他们开除。国务院吊销了“庆祝”柯克之死的非公民的签证。地方警察也加入了这场践踏民权的狂欢：田纳西一名男子因在柯克死后发了一张梗图而被捕——同州还有一波基于同样不稳理由的解雇潮。

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No sector of society was untouched by the rising tides of brain-dead McCarthyism: Dozens of educators were terminated for having their say about the killing; an MSNBC political analyst as well as a Washington Post columnist were fired (an arbitrator has since ordered the latter be rehired); workers at Office Depot, the major airlines, and a prominent law firm were axed; ABC suspended Jimmy Kimmel for his on-air remarks.

没有哪个社会领域逃得过这股脑残麦卡锡主义的涨潮：数十名教育工作者因对这起杀人案发表看法而被解雇；MSNBC 一位政治分析人士和一位《华盛顿邮报》专栏作家被炒（仲裁人随后命令后者复职）；欧迪办公、各大航空公司和一家知名律所的员工被裁；ABC 因吉米·坎摩尔(Jimmy Kimmel)的节目言论将其停播。

Kirk’s legacy has also been consecrated in the public square. An artist plans to unveil a busted statue of the TPUSA founder in New York City’s Times Square on the anniversary of his death. His legacy of ire for basically any oppressed group you can name has been enshrined by changing the names of roads to “Charlie Kirk Memorial Highway” in Naples, Florida, and outside Nashville — displacing Vietnam Veterans Boulevard — and “Charlie Kirk Way” in the red part of California. As I was writing this, a pickup truck with a sticker that reads “In Loving Memory of Charlie Kirk” passed me on the highway outside Chappaqua, New York.

柯克的遗产还在公共空间被“封圣”。一位艺术家计划在他忌日于纽约时代广场揭幕一尊 TPUSA 创始人的破损雕像。他几乎对一切能叫得出名字的受压迫群体的怒火也被铭刻：佛罗里达州那不勒斯和纳什维尔郊外的道路改名为“查理·柯克纪念公路”——顶替了越战退伍军人大道——加州红区也出现了“查理·柯克路”。就在我写这段文字时，一辆贴着“深切怀念查理·柯克”贴纸的皮卡在纽约查帕阔外的公路上从我身旁驶过。

All of these efforts have failed spectacularly. One year after Kirk’s killing, the conservative movement has descended into in-fighting, and although Kirk’s wife, Erika, took the reins at Turning Point, there is no heir apparent to energizing young conservatives (although the antisemitic streamer Nick Fuentes would like to throw his hat in the ring). Rifts have quite publicly opened between some of the movement’s most recognizable figures — Ben Shapiro, Candice Owens, Steve Bannon, and Tucker Carlson among them.

所有这些努力都惨烈失败。柯克遇害一年后，保守派运动已陷入内斗；尽管柯克的妻子埃丽卡(Erika)接管了 Turning Point，但激励年轻保守派的明确接班人并不存在（尽管反犹主播尼克·富恩特斯(Nick Fuentes)很想下场一试）。运动中一些最知名的人物之间——本·夏皮罗、坎迪斯·欧文斯、史蒂夫·班农、塔克·卡尔森等——的裂痕已相当公开地撕开。

Many of Kirk’s disciples have descended into the realm of conspiracy theory, variously blaming Israel, the left, or even Erika for his demise instead of Tyler Robinson, the 23-year-old suspect who will soon stand trial for his killing. Owens, who by all appearances actually was close friends with Kirk, has actively stoked these flames of division, pushing the conspiracy theory that Israel had him killed while waging open war on his widow.

柯克的许多门徒已坠入阴谋论领域，把他的死归咎于以色列、左派、甚至埃丽卡，而不是即将受审的 23 岁嫌疑人泰勒·罗宾逊(Tyler Robinson)。欧文斯——从一切表象看她确实是柯克的密友——一直在主动煽动分裂之火，力推“以色列杀了他”的阴谋论，同时向他的遗孀公开开战。

MAGA conservatives expected Kirk’s death to be a kind of Reichstag fire that would galvanize and consolidate the right to move against the supposed threat of an organized — and politically violent — left. But to stick with Germany, Kirk is no Horst Wessel, and by insisting on total deference to the notion that the “Change My Mind” guy was a sainted national hero, they’ve given up the game entirely and opened themselves up to be relentlessly mocked.

MAGA 保守派曾期待柯克之死成为一场国会纵火案式的契机，团结和巩固右翼，向所谓有组织、政治上暴力的左派威胁发起行动。但继续沿用德国的比喻：柯克不是霍斯特·韦塞尔(Horst Wessel)。他们坚持要求全社会对“换换我的想法”小哥顶礼膜拜为圣洁民族英雄，等于彻底亮出了底牌，让自己沦为一个被无情嘲弄的对象。

When you center your political movement on cruelty and your online presence on dunking on the most vulnerable, your critics will respond by delighting in your misfortunes.

当你的政治运动以残忍为中心、你的网络存在以羞辱最弱势者为乐，你的批评者就会以幸灾乐祸回应你的厄运。

Conservatives routinely post their pleasure at videos of families being torn apart by ICE agents. When Renee Good and Alex Pretti were killed in cold blood by Trump’s occupying immigration forces in Minneapolis, conservatives celebrated and blamed the victims — for driving a car and carrying a legal firearm, respectively — to defend the deportation regime. They got many, many months of mileage out of laughing at Rep. Nancy Pelosi’s husband nearly being bludgeoned to death with a hammer in their San Francisco home, and everyone from Elon Musk to the president himself stirred up innuendo about the true motive behind the attack — because it certainly couldn’t be the case that the suspect was radicalized by the far-right internet.

保守派经常转发 ICE 探员拆散家庭的视频并直呼过瘾。当蕾妮·古德(Renee Good)和亚历克斯·普雷蒂(Alex Pretti)在明尼阿波利斯被特朗普的占领军 immigration forces 冷血枪杀时，保守派庆祝并责怪受害者——一个怪她开车、一个怪他携带合法枪支——以捍卫驱逐政权。他们从“嘲笑佩洛西众议员丈夫在旧金山家中险些被锤击身亡”这件事上榨取了好几个月的乐子，而马斯克乃至总统本人都在煽动关于袭击真实动机的影射——因为嫌疑人显然不可能是被极右互联网激化的。

Conservatives still, in the year 2026, deploy their “no angels” line to defend the police killings of George Floyd — who, they claim, was killed by a fentanyl overdose — and Trayvon Martin, who they argue shouldn’t have been in that neighborhood in the first place.

保守派在 2026 年还在祭出他们的“他不是天使”论，为警察枪杀乔治·弗洛伊德辩护——他们声称弗洛伊德死于芬太尼过量——也为特雷沃恩·马丁辩护，他们说他压根就不该出现在那个街区。

By elevating Kirk to a martyr beyond criticism or reproach, with serious personal and professional consequences enforced by the state, you make getting off a snarky tweet or a video dancing to a sappy AI song a logical reaction to repression. You transform the death of a man, one you claim to have loved very much, into a blinking red button that your enemies are itching to press.

把柯克捧成不容批评、不容指摘的烈士，并用国家机器强制执行严重的人身与职业后果，你就等于让“发一条阴阳怪气的推文、或跟着一首腻歪的 AI 歌跳舞”成为对压制行为的合理反应。你把你声称无比热爱的一个人的死，变成了一颗敌人手痒想按的红色闪烁按钮。

The first rule of the internet holds that the second you get mad or declare a sentiment out of bounds, you’ll get laughed at to hell and back. In effect, conservatives have turned their own departed hero into a laughingstock and, worse, a meme.

互联网第一定律：你一生气、或一宣布某种情绪越界，你就会被从头笑到尾。实际上，保守派亲手把自己已故的英雄变成了笑柄，更糟，变成了一个梗。

Kirk is no longer able to spread his gospel on campuses across the country, but his image — of his life and of his death — will reign forever, filtered through a heavy layer of internet-infused irony.

柯克已无法在全国校园传播他的福音，但他的形象——他的生与他的死——将永远统治，只是隔着一层厚厚的互联网式反讽。

>>1535125

The real thing is when Kirk died, all people could say was "Oh, he tried so hard to reach out to those he disagreed with!" and "Oh, he was a father!". But he never actually DID anything. He ran no charities. He contributed to no causes. All he ever did was either debate people or podcast. His material impact on the world outside of his death basically amounted to clip farming. Hell he barely even had many positive interactions in those clips; at most just him remaining calm in the face of outraged college students. He could make an argument but he could never empathize.

真实情况是：柯克死时，人们能说的只有“哦，他那么努力地去接触意见不同的人！”和“哦，他还是个父亲！”。但他实际上什么都没做过。他没办过任何慈善。他没为任何事业做过贡献。他所做的一切无非是辩论或播客。除了他的死，他对世界的实际影响基本等于剪片刷流量。甚至他在那些片段里都没多少正面互动，顶多就是在愤怒的大学生面前保持冷静。他能辩，但他永远不会共情。

Contrast this to say, Dolly Parton who had numerous charities and a whole legacy of helping others, or even celebrities who weren't as active in terms of charity but still were generally very positive with their interactions in public like Rob Reiner or Peter Cullen. When they died people reflected on the good moments they'd shared with them. When Kirk died people could only bring up a general "well uh, he tried to debate people on both sides!" even at his own funeral. His legacy was basically nothing of value even on an emotional level.

对比一下，比如说多莉·帕顿(Dolly Parton)，她有无数慈善机构和一整部助人遗产；甚至那些慈善不那么活跃但公共互动总体非常正面的名人，像罗布·赖纳(Rob Reiner)或彼得·卡伦(Peter Cullen)。他们去世时，人们回味的是与他们共度的美好时刻。柯克死时，人们只能憋出一句笼统的“呃，他试着两边辩论！”——连在他的葬礼上都是如此。他的遗产即使在情感层面也基本一文不值。

>>1535129

It's been a year and they still haven't been able to find a single five second clip of him saying something profound, inspiring, or even unique in all of the thousands of hours of audio and video of him that exist

都一年了，在他存世的数千小时音视频里，他们还是找不出一条五秒钟的片段——他在里面说了什么深刻、鼓舞人心、甚至独特的话

Because he never did anything but effectively say "Nuh-uh!" and then regurgitate talking points that had already been better articulated by other right wing talking heads

因为他除了有效地说“不——才不是！”然后复读其他右翼名嘴早已阐述得更好的话术之外什么都没干过

If they could have found just one meaningful quote by him to latch onto, they might have actually been able to spin his death into a movement

如果他们能找到哪怕一条他的有意义的话来抓住，他们说不定真能把他的死运转成一场运动

>>1535130

Oh I've got one!

哦我找到一条！

>“It’s worth it. I think it’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights."

>“这是值得的。我认为每年不幸付出一些枪支死亡的成本是值得的，这样我们才能拥有第二修正案，保护我们其他天赋权利。”

>>1535129

The flip side to that coin is people celebrating him by basically projecting every monster they can think of onto him when as you said he didn’t really do anything. And that’s not even getting to the lying about what he actually said and how he said it, what his actual beliefs were, etc.

硬币的另一面是：人们用“把他能想到的每一个怪物都投射到他身上”来纪念他——正如你所说，他其实什么都没干过。这还没算那些关于他实际说了什么、怎么说的、真实信念是什么的谎言。

>>1535130

They also couldn’t find an actual clip of him saying evil stuff like they claim.

他们也找不出他们声称的那些他说过邪恶言论的实际片段。

>>1535134

Its weird, they just have a bunch of whiny coping from esl faggots trying to pretend all the evil stuff he said wasn't evil

很怪，他们只有一堆 ESL 基佬的哭腔自我安慰，试图假装他说的那些恶毒话不恶毒

>>1535130

He didn't need to say something meaningful for his death to be substantive. In fact, his existence as a tepid breadtuber is precisely why his death was so meaningful.

他的死要有分量，不需要他说过什么有意义的话。事实上，他作为一个温吞视频博主的存在，恰恰是他死亡如此有分量的原因。

The Left has proven that if you're in the same ballpark of Charlie Kirk, or further right of him, you could be assassinated by a tranny chaser and at least half of them would be happy to see you dead.

左派已经证明：如果你和查理·柯克处在同一光谱附近、或比他更右，你就可能被一个变性人追慕者刺杀，而其中至少一半人会很乐意见到你死。

If you've been keeping yourself away from the alt-right because you're afraid of being ostracized by your peers, that doesn't matter anymore because your peers literally want you dead if you disagree with them politically. So go nuts.

如果你因为怕被同伴排斥而一直远离另类右翼，那现在无所谓了，因为只要你在政治上不同意他们，你的同伴就 literally 想你死。所以放开手脚吧。

>>1535136

Literally no one believes this who wasn't already alt-right lmao. To the average person his death was a news footnote or a literal meme.

但凡原本不是另类右翼的人，没有一个人信这个，哈哈。对普通人来说，他的死不过是新闻脚注，或者一个字面意义上的梗。

We'll remember this when they day comes.

等那天来了我们记着这笔。

>>1535131

Exactly

The truth is, there's no better way to honor Charlie Kirk's legacy than to downplay and make light of his death at the hands of gun violence.

事实是：纪念查理·柯克遗产最好的方式，就是淡化并调侃他死于枪支暴力这件事。

It's what he devoted his life to doing. It was literally the last thing he did before he died.

这就是他毕生奉献的事业。这 literally 是他死前做的最后一件事。

>To the average person his death was a news footnote or a literal meme.

>对普通人来说，他的死不过是新闻脚注，或者一个字面意义上的梗。

Surely lying about this horrific event won't have any lasting consequences for the Left as a cohesive political movement.

对一个本应团结的政治运动撒这种谎，肯定不会有任何持久后果，肯定不会。

>>1535136

You giggled and clapped like a seal when a squad of masked goons executed an American citizen in the streets in broad daylight and on camera, and then were completely shielded from consequence by the Trump administration

当一队蒙面打手光天化日、在镜头前当街处决一名美国公民、随后又被特朗普政府完全 shielded 免于任何后果时，你像海豹一样拍手嬉笑

Unclench your pearls and stop pretending you have some kind of moral high ground, you professional victim. At least Charlie Kirk's killer didn't have the full public support of the Democrat party.

松开你紧攥的珍珠项链吧，别再假装你占有什么道德高地了，你这个职业受害者。至少柯克的凶手没有获得民主党全党的公开支持。

>>1535140

How is it lying? If I asked the average person on the street right now who isn't terminally online who Kirk is, they'd probably respond with "who?". And if I asked anyone with an online presence, they'd probably respond either "That podcaster that got shot" or "that guy who gets edited into every meme".

这怎么算撒谎？我现在随便在街上问一个不重度上网的人柯克是谁，对方多半回一句“谁？”。而问任何一个有网络存在感的人，对方多半会答“那个被枪打的播客主”或“那个被 P 进所有梗图的家伙”。

This is his legacy. People either forgot him already or only know him because of how many memes his death spawned across the internet. Chances are the next generation will be surprised when you inform them he isn't just some AI-generated meme character like fuckin Tung Tung Tung Sahur and was actually a real person that died.

这就是他的遗产。人们要么已经忘了他，要么只因为他的死在全网催生了多少梗图才知道他。下一代人很可能在你告诉他们他不只是个 AI 生成的梗角色——就像那个 Tung Tung Tung Sahur——而是一个真实死去的人时大吃一惊。

>>1535138

>>1535140

>Aaaaany day now

>快了快了，就这几天

Be sure to stock up on Charlie Kirk memorial merch at the TPUSA website (which went on sale before his body was even cold) while waiting for... whatever fucked up power fantasy you have to become reality

等着你那什么扭曲的权力幻想成真之前，记得去 TPUSA 官网囤一点查理·柯克纪念周边（他尸骨未寒时就开始卖了）

>>1535144

No no anon, any day now the right wing will get really riled up about this guy who died a year ago and whose killer was already caught and likely going to get life.

不不老哥，就这几天，右翼就会为一个死了一年、凶手已经落网、多半会判终身的人真的义愤填膺起来。

>>1535131

This is Charlie's legacy. It doesn't get more perfect than that.

这就是查理的遗产。没有比这更完美的了。

Kinda crazy the left can riot, burn down cities, support antifa terrorism, attack ICE, and assassinate Charlie Kirk, but they call us violent because of one peaceful protest on January 6th.

有点离谱：左派可以暴动、烧城市、支持 antifa 恐怖主义、攻击 ICE、刺杀查理·柯克，却因为 1 月 6 日那场和平抗议说我们暴力。

Weak bait, dweeb

鱼饵太弱，书呆子

>>1535147

Even better, propping up his platonic tradwife and getting her to say cringy shit like, 'Wives are worthless without their husbands' and then turn around and have her as the new head of Toilet Paper USA

更绝的是，还把他那柏拉图式的传统妻子捧出来，让她说“没有丈夫的妻子一文不值”这种尴尬话，然后转头让她当“厕纸美国”(TPUSA)的新掌门

They don't even believe the tradwife BS, lmao

他们连自己都不信那套传统老婆的鬼话，哈哈

Charlie Cuck? His wife was banging Vance while he was still alive. She is like a Baptist preacher's wife ... turbowhore with a decent singing voice.

查理戴绿帽？他还活着时他老婆就跟万斯搞上了。她就像个浸信会牧师的老婆……嗓音不错的超级荡妇。

The day after he died, she was in the papers hugging every man she could find with a big smile on her face. She was free at last.

他死后的第二天，报纸上的她笑容满面地拥抱着她能找到的每一个男人。她终于自由了。

>>1535149

>the left

>左派

I'm sure you mean "liggerals". You don't get paid unless you put that exact word in every post.

我想你指的是“自由派”(liggerals)。你不把那个词塞进每条帖子，你就领不到钱。

>>1535152

Fuck you piece of shit

去你的，臭狗屎

So I guess liggerals won't bitch when their gods Hasan and destiny are shot by someone and MAGA erupts in joyous celebration?

所以，等他们的神哈桑和 destiny 被人枪击、MAGA 欢天喜地庆祝时，自由派也不会叽歪，对吧？

>>1535158

can you afford a plane ticket all the way here to do that, though, esl shill?

不过 ESL 狗托，你买得起一张飞过来的机票去干这事吗？

>>1535158

But anon

可是老哥

If you kill Hasan, what will Fox News spend hours a day focusing on to avoid bringing up fuel prices being at all time highs because Trump's stupid war that was supposed to last three weeks in now on month seven?

你要是把哈桑杀了，福克斯新闻每天拿什么来垫几小时节目、好避开“油价史上最高、因为特朗普那场本该三周打完的蠢战争已经打到第七个月”这个话题？

>>1535158

>their gods Hasan and destiny

>他们的神哈桑和 destiny

You have so little understanding of what """liggerals""" are like. It's hilarious.

你对“自由派”到底什么样了解得少得可怜。太好笑了。

>>1535161

The war ended the first week dumb fuck. We won.

战争第一周就结束了，蠢货。我们赢了。

>>1535164

>we

LOL

>>1535165

>liggeral outing himself as a non-american

>自由派暴露了自己不是美国人

typical

>>1535164

Ok then why is Trump saying as soon as we win oil prices will go down?

那特朗普为什么说我们一赢油价就会降？

>https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/117232304514057261

Sounds like we haven't won.

听起来我们还没赢。

>ESL shill, baited and spread open for /news/ enjoyment

>ESL 狗托，被钓上钩、摊开呈上供 /news/ 娱乐

>>1535158

Unlike Charlie, Hasan does more damage to the left by being alive.

跟查理不同，哈桑活着对左派的伤害更大。

>>1535127

>Conservatives routinely post their pleasure at videos of families being torn apart by ICE agents. When Renee Good and Alex Pretti were killed in cold blood by Trump’s occupying immigration forces in Minneapolis, conservatives celebrated

>保守派经常转发 ICE 探员拆散家庭的视频并直呼过瘾。当蕾妮·古德和亚历克斯·普雷蒂在明尼阿波利斯被特朗普的占领军冷血枪杀时，保守派庆祝

Who? Show me the thousands of Republicans dancing on TikTok the same way democrats did when Charlie was murdered.

谁？给我看看几千个共和党人在 TikTok 上跳舞——就像查理被谋杀时民主党人那样。

>>1535170

you're really bad at pretending to be american

你假装美国人装得真的很差

>>1535167

Oil prices are down. The president already confirmed it's under 2 dollars a gallon in red states

油价降了。总统已确认红州每加仑低于 2 美元

the internet is dead

互联网已经死了

>>1535129

Also don't forget, his entire thing was to be as un-christ like as possible by being a racist biggot and pushing christian supremacy.

另外别忘了，他的全部人设就是尽可能不像基督：当个种族主义偏执狂、推行基督教至上。

And his last viral clip was getting bodied by a bunch of brit bong students who actually knew how to debate and counter all his normal bullshit he uses the run circles over American kids.

而他最后一条走红的片段，是被一群真正会辩论、能逐一拆穿他惯用那套糊弄美国小孩话术的英国学生按在地上打。

1535138

>when they day

>等那天

>they

>inb4 "grammar nazi", "context" etc

>先声明“语法警察”、“看语境”之类的

Even others would have said "It was their day" when Charlie was invited to the Cambridge Debating Society and they intellectually destroyed him more than a mere bullet could. But at least he ultimately leaned to the left when one did.

查理受邀参加剑桥辩论社时，其他人都会说“这是他们的主场”——他们在智识上摧毁他的程度，远超一颗子弹所能做到。不过至少他最后往左偏了一点。

When the day comes? As King Leonidas would say in his Laconically Witty way, ' If. '

等那天到来？像斯巴达王列奥尼达会用他拉科尼亚式俏皮话说的那样：“如果。”

You'll forget this when their day never comes. But you won't forget this humiliation, just as nobody forgets Charlie's metaphorical destruction by those intellectually superior to him at Cambridge University.

等那天永远不来时你会忘了这事。但你不会忘记这场羞辱——正如没人忘记查理在剑桥被智识上更高级的人碾碎那样。

1535138

>We'll

1535164

>We

Hi, esl shill.

你好啊，英语非母语的托儿。

1535136

Strange how nobody was gunning for Andrew Tate or Milo Yiannopoulos. At least the latter doesn't need to worry about that where he is now, even when he's in a mosque and the last few seconds of his '15 Minutes of Fame' are running out.

奇怪的是，没人找安德鲁·泰特或米罗·雅诺波鲁斯的麻烦。至少后者现在不用操心这个了，哪怕他身处清真寺、他“15 分钟名气”的最后几秒正在倒数。

>>1535143

>How is it lying?

>这怎么算撒谎？

It's still an ongoing national story. It also led to the immediate radicalization of an entire generation of new conservative voters.

这仍然是一条持续的全国性新闻。它还直接激化了一整代新的保守派选民。

Leftoids have difficulty comprehending that they've had an effective monopoly on institutional and cultural support for more than thirty years. They live in a bubble with absolutely zero understanding of why the average rightwinger doesn't care if ICE kills someone trying to physically bash them with their vehicle.

左脑残难以理解的一点是：三十多年来他们事实上垄断了建制和文化支持。他们活在泡泡里，完全无法理解为什么普通右翼不在乎 ICE 击毙一个试图开车撞他们的人。

>illiterate third worlders don't care if ICE kills people while trying to force them off the road

>没文化的第三世界人不关心 ICE 在把他们逼下马路时杀人

but no one cares about esl shills opinion

但没人在乎 ESL 狗托的意见

>>1535143

>How is it lying?

>这怎么算撒谎？

>It's still an ongoing national story. It also led to the immediate radicalization of an entire generation of new conservative voters.

>这仍然是一条持续的全国性新闻。它还直接激化了一整代新的保守派选民。

>Leftoids have difficulty comprehending that they've had an effective monopoly on institutional and cultural support for more than thirty years. They live in a bubble with absolutely zero understanding of why the average rightwinger doesn't care if ICE kills someone trying to physically bash them with their vehicle

>左脑残难以理解：三十多年来他们事实上垄断了建制和文化支持。他们活在泡泡里，完全无法理解为什么普通右翼不在乎 ICE 击毙一个试图开车撞他们的人

>It also led to the immediate radicalization of an entire generation of new conservative voters

>它还直接激化了一整代新的保守派选民

>Nick Fuentes =/= an entire generation

>尼克·富恩特斯 ≠ 一整代人

Now this is lying by 1535180.

现在这可是 1535180 在撒谎了。

>It's still an ongoing humiliation of Charlie Kirk and his rightoid glazers. It also led to the immediate non-radicalization of an entire generation of new voters.

>这仍然是对查理·柯克和他那帮右翼舔狗的持续羞辱。它还让一整代新选民立刻“非激化”了。

>Rightoids have difficulty comprehending. They live in a bubble with absolutely zero understanding of why the average non-rightwinger doesn't care if the domestic terrorist group ICE-IS is politically killed by the subsequent Democrat administration

>右脑残难以理解。他们活在泡泡里，完全无法理解为什么普通非右翼不在乎国内恐怖组织 ICE-IS 被下一届民主党政府政治性铲除

ftfy, 1535180.

已帮你修好，1535180。

>They live in a bubble with absolutely zero understanding of why the average non-rightwinger doesn't care if the domestic terrorist group ICE-IS is politically killed by the subsequent Democrat administration

>他们活在泡泡里，完全无法理解为什么普通非右翼不在乎国内恐怖组织 ICE-IS 被下一届民主党政府政治性铲除

The average leftwinger is communist adjacent. They barely qualify as people.

普通左翼的立场接近共产主义者。他们勉强够格算人。

can someone help esl shill get a real job

谁能帮 ESL 狗托找份正经工作

The guy was a soulless grifter. Even if you are abhorred by his murder, it's hard to keep pretending he was a good guy worthy of reverence.

这家伙是个没有灵魂的敛财者。哪怕你被他的谋杀恶心到，也很难继续假装他是个值得敬仰的好人。

>a USA led by Trump has diplomatic relations & trade with Vietnam. A member of the Trillion Dollar Company Club NVidia invests heavily in that same country which is communist

>一个由特朗普领导的美国与越南建交做生意。万亿市值俱乐部成员英伟达在同一国家——一个共产党国家——大笔投资

>Trump could have had his phone entirely made in US by Purism. Instead has a remodeled version of a two year old phone by HTC: a Chinese company

>特朗普本可以让 Purism 在美国造他的整部手机。他却用了 HTC——一家中国公司——两年前型号的翻版

>Tesla Cybertrucks bought by rightards to 'own the libs' have batteries made in China, thus rightards & Musk are helping the economy of China: a communist country

>右翼为了“气自由派”买的赛博皮卡电池是中国造，于是右翼和马斯克在帮共产党国家中国的经济

Miggers and their orange Hypocrite-in-Chief are communist adjacent. The likes of 1535185 aren't human.

MAGA 仔和他们橙色的虚伪总司令，立场接近共产党人。1535185 之流不算人。

>>1535186

masturbating while being debased by internet strangers is esl shills job

被网络陌生人羞辱时自我安慰，这就是 ESL 狗托的本职工作

they're doing great. best in their field

他们干得很出色。业界最佳

>Reagan outsources American manufacturing to pleasure his political buddies

>里根为了取悦政界好友，把美国制造业外包出去

>modern imports are made out of chinesium tech filled with chink spyware

>如今的进口货都是中国料子，塞满中国间谍软件

>leftoid thinks this is a good justification for globalism and the gay race collectivism that they are currently using to justify bringing in jeets

>左脑残觉得这是全球主义的好理由，也是他们现在用来替引进印度佬辩护的 gay 种族集体主义

>jeets that are now replacing their office jobs and throwing trash into the Mississippi river

>如今接替他们办公室工作、往密西西比河里扔垃圾的正是这些印度佬

>>1535180

>It's still an ongoing national story.

>这仍然是一条持续的全国性新闻。

The story is over retard. No one cares about your dead podcaster and his legacy is as the butt of a joke. No one was "radicalized" by this who wasn't radicalized already and the average person who isn't terminally online literally only knows Kirk as a news headline from a year ago.

故事结束了，智障。没人在乎你那死掉的播客主，他的遗产就是个笑话的靶子。没有谁因这事被“激化”——原本激化的除外；而不重度上网的普通人，对柯克的全部认知就是一年前的一条新闻标题。

Again, the next generation will literally know him as a shitpost format and nothing else. And he left no meaningful legacy beyond that, so that's all he's gonna ever be.

再说一遍，下一代人对他的全部认知就是“钓鱼帖格式”，别的什么都没有。他留下的遗产再无更多，所以他也永远只是这个。

>>1535180

>They live in a bubble with absolutely zero understanding of why the average rightwinger doesn't care if ICE kills someone trying to physically bash them with their vehicle.

>他们活在泡泡里，完全无法理解为什么普通右翼不在乎 ICE 击毙一个试图开车撞他们的人。

Actually the understanding is pretty clear that Republican don't see their opposition as human and they never have.

其实理解得非常清楚：共和党人从不把对手当人看，从来不曾。

>>1535199

i think it's more that they feel themselves as rightfully able to enslave humans. they are the neoconfederacy after all

我觉得更多是：他们自认有权奴役人类。毕竟他们就是新邦联。

>>1535198

>No one was "radicalized" by this who wasn't radicalized already

>没有谁因这事被“激化”——原本激化的除外

You consider basic bitch immigration enforcement to be fascism. You have no idea what right-wing radicalization actually looks like. You sure as shit can't stop kvetching about it, though.

你把最基础的移民执法当成法西斯。你根本不知道右翼激进化长什么样。不过你倒是没完没了地哭诉这事。

>>1535201

shooting citizens in the street isn't a type of immigration enforcement. it is pretty fascist though. and you're literally not american

当街枪杀公民不叫移民执法。那倒是挺法西斯的。而且你 literally 不是美国人

>>1535201

Your podcaster's legacy is being a meme and no one who wasn't already alt-right even heard of him outside of shitposts before he croaked and especially not after.

你那位播客主的遗产就是个梗。他死前，除了另类右翼，没人在钓鱼帖之外听说过他；死后更没有。

>rightoids can't think, thus voting for an orange faggot is a good justification for bringing in jeets

>右脑残不会思考，所以引进印度佬是正当的

ftfy

Gentlemen, I know that Charlie Kirk is basically forgotten and completely culturally irrelevant, but its rude to not at least pretend to talk about him in his own thread

先生们，我知道查理·柯克基本已被遗忘、在文化上完全无关紧要了，但在他自己的主题帖里连假装聊聊他都太失礼了

>>1535208

Oh he's very culturally relevant... as a fucking meme inserted into shit for laughs.

哦他在文化上非常有存在感……作为一个被 P 进各种东西里供人取乐的该死的梗。

>>1535125

>haha! We (the left) are still mocking a family man who got gunned down in public!

>哈哈！我们（左派）还在嘲笑一个当众被枪杀的顾家男人！

Yeah. We know.

对。我们知道。

>>1535202

Shooting terrorists isn't fascism unless you're a terrorist sympathizer.

枪击恐怖分子不算法西斯，除非你是恐怖分子同情者。

I actually waited 60 seconds and passed a captcha just to let everyone here know I think Charlie Kirk was a piece of shit and I'm really glad he's dead. This was worth waiting a full minute just to post.

我实际等了 60 秒、过了验证码，就为了告诉这里所有人：我觉得查理·柯克是个混蛋，我非常高兴他死了。为发这帖等满一分钟，值了。

>>1535215

You're on a FBI honeypot, retard. You've played yourself.

你在 FBI 蜜罐里呢，智障。你把自己卖了。

>>1535203

>Your podcaster

>你那位播客主

I'm further right than Charlie Kirk. Was before he died, too. I just think it's funny that white women twerking to Charlie Kirk's death on tiktok has successfully radicalized more rightwingers in a single weekend than /pol/ accomplished in twelve years.

我比查理·柯克更右。他死前我就更右。我只是觉得好笑：白人女性在 TikTok 上扭屁股庆祝查理·柯克之死，一个周末激化的右翼，比 /pol/ 十二年干成的还多。

You're unironically creating the political will for a fascist state by mocking his death. You total fucking idiot.

你在真诚地为法西斯国家制造政治意愿，靠的就是嘲笑他的死。你这个彻头彻尾的该死白痴。

>>1535142

Are you talking about Pretti and Good.

你说的是普雷蒂和古德吧。

Fags aren't American and should be deported to Haiti as foodstffs for brown people.

基佬不是美国人，该被遣返到海地给棕色人当口粮。

>>1535220

>Charlie Kirk's death on tiktok has successfully radicalized more rightwingers in a single weekend than /pol/ accomplished in twelve years.

>白人女性在 TikTok 上扭屁股庆祝查理·柯克之死，一个周末激化的右翼，比 /pol/ 十二年干成的还多。

Radicalized them into making kirky a laughing stock.

把他们激化成了把小柯克变成笑柄。

>>1535169

You mean the right wing democrats. Hasan is living rent free in Republicans heads to the point they had a giant pictures of him flexing at their latest nazi rally for trump.

你说的是右翼民主党人吧。哈桑免费住在共和党人脑子里，以至于他们最近那场挺特朗普的纳粹集会上挂着他的巨型肌肉照。

>>1535210

That '''family man''' openly advocated for live executions being shown to young children to 'toughen them up.' The guy was a psycho.

那位“顾家男人”公开主张给年幼的孩子看现场处决来“磨炼他们”。这人是个精神病。

His bitch wife showing little in the way of actual mourning only adds to it.

他那贱货老婆几乎看不出真正的哀悼，更加坐实了这一点。

1535212

The Resistance - helped by USAAF pilot Chuck Yeager - shooting fascist Wehrmacht terrorists in France during WWII isn't bad, unless you're a fascist sympathizer. And when Yeager's friends came to liberate France just after 6th June 1944, what happened to fascist sympathizers.

二战期间，在美国陆军航空队飞行员查克·叶格(Chuck Yeager)的帮助下，抵抗组织在法国枪击法西斯国防军恐怖分子，这没什么不好，除非你是法西斯同情者。1944 年 6 月 6 日之后，当叶格的朋友们来解放法国时，法西斯同情者的下场如何。

What'll happen to fascist sympathizers when the Democrats liberate America from migger fascism. May you live in interesting times, domestic terrorist group ICE-IS and your sympathizers.

等民主党把美国从 MAGA 法西斯手里解放出来时，法西斯同情者会落得什么下场。愿你活在有趣的时代，国内恐怖组织 ICE-IS 及你们的同情者们。

>>1535171

I never did get an answer so let me try again:

我一直没得到回答，所以再试一次：

>Conservatives routinely post their pleasure at videos of families being torn apart by ICE agents. When Renee Good and Alex Pretti were killed in cold blood by Trump’s occupying immigration forces in Minneapolis, conservatives celebrated

>保守派经常转发 ICE 探员拆散家庭的视频并直呼过瘾。当蕾妮·古德和亚历克斯·普雷蒂在明尼阿波利斯被特朗普的占领军冷血枪杀时，保守派庆祝

Who? Show me the thousands of Republicans dancing on TikTok the same way democrats did when Charlie was murdered.

谁？给我看看几千个共和党人在 TikTok 上跳舞——就像查理被谋杀时民主党人那样。

>>1535254

>guy has an opinion I don't like, therefore it's okay to kill him

>这家伙有我不喜欢的观点，所以杀了他没问题

By your logic I should be able to snipe Hasan and Destiny.

按你这逻辑，我该可以狙杀哈桑和 Destiny。

>>1535254

1535276

>snipe Hasan and Destiny

>狙杀哈桑和 Destiny

>a normal sane human would never so much as think of allowing such an intrusive thought to exist in their superior mind

>一个正常理智的人绝不会让这种侵入性念头出现在他们 superior 的大脑里

>those with superior minds didn't need to so much as think of committing a violent act, those at Cambridge University merely proved Charlie Kirk's opinions more than wrong. If they doing so hurt more than just Charlie Kirk's fee-fees, that's their problem. But then, those with that problem just don't want to admit that all their opinions are more than wrong

>头脑 superior 的人根本不必想到实施暴力，剑桥大学的人 merely 证明了查理·柯克的观点大错特错。如果这伤害的不只是查理·柯克的玻璃心，那是他们的问题。不过，有这问题的人只是不想承认他们所有的观点都大错特错

>snipe Hasan and Destiny

>狙杀哈桑和 Destiny

and >>1535254 never so much as thought of saying, least of all doing to Charlie Kirk, what 1535276 suggested

而且 >>1535254 从头到尾没想过对查理·柯克说、更没做过 1535276 建议的事

>snipe Hasan and Destiny

>狙杀哈桑和 Destiny

Proof that the likes of 1535276 are violent conservatives.

这证明了 1535276 之流是暴力的保守派。

>>1535280

Its not violence

那不是暴力

esl shill probably has a half dozen ai bot chats creating smut about fucking the leftist beliefs out of their favorite twitch streamers

ESL 狗托多半开了半打 AI 聊天机器人，生成把“从心爱的 Twitch 主播身上把左派信仰操出来”的黄文

>>1535276

Hmm it’s funny that you see someone pointing out the fact that Kirk advocated for gun rights above all else and said some gun deaths were the cost a free society, and then died by the result of a gun death, and you take that as endorsing gun deaths. You might want to take another look at that little logic circle you’ve created for yourself.

嗯，好笑的是：有人指出柯克把枪权置于一切之上、说某些枪支死亡是自由社会的代价——然后他死于枪击——你就把这当成在背书枪支死亡。你可能该重新审视一下你给自己画的那个逻辑圈。

People can point out irony without endorsing the actions that are ironic.

人们可以指出讽刺之处，而不必为被指出的讽刺性行为背书。

>>1535282

It's not even irony, You're simply a faggot.

那甚至不是讽刺，你就是个基佬。

>>1535282

It's funny how your deflection doesn't work against anything I said.

好笑的是你的闪避对我说的任何内容都不起作用。

1) you don't have thousands of conservatives celebrating the deaths of Renee Good and Alex Pretti the same way thousands of democrats celebrated - and continue to celebrate - Charlie's death.

1) 你们拿不出几千个保守派庆祝蕾妮·古德和亚历克斯·普雷蒂之死的例子——不像几千个民主党人庆祝、并且仍在庆祝查理之死那样。

2) You fags just tried to justify his murder because "The guy was a psycho."

2) 你们这帮基佬刚刚还在用“那家伙是个精神病”来为谋杀他辩护。

So by this standard I should be able to kill Destiny, Hasan, and Vaush - especially because all three have advocated violence against conservatives (speaking of endorsing gun deaths...).

那按这个标准，我应该可以杀 Destiny、哈桑和 Vaush——尤其因为这三位都曾鼓吹对保守派使用暴力（说到背书枪支死亡……）。

>>1535286

>1) you don't have thousands of conservatives celebrating the deaths of Renee Good and Alex Pretti the same way thousands of democrats celebrated - and continue to celebrate - Charlie's death.

>1) 你们拿不出几千个保守派庆祝蕾妮·古德和亚历克斯·普雷蒂之死的例子——不像几千个民主党人庆祝、并且仍在庆祝查理之死那样。

>https://www.wired.com/story/the-campaign-to-destroy-renee-good/

No one ever argued that Kirk's shooter was innocent. Funny how you keep ranting about "justification" when the official stance of the republican administration right now is that both murders were completely justified and the ICE officers behind it don't even need to show up in court.

从来没有人主张柯克的枪手是无辜的。好笑的是你一直咆哮“辩护”，而共和党政府现在的官方立场是：两起枪杀完全正当，背后的 ICE 探员甚至不需要出庭。

You shoot a conservative you get arrested. You shoot a democrat on their order you get protected. That's how this admin operates. Fuck off with this moral grandstanding because no one gives a shit about your failed attempt to use Kirk's death as a Reichstag Fire.

你枪击保守派，你被抓。你奉他们之命枪击民主党人，你受保护。本届政府就是这么运作的。收起你这套道德说教吧，没人给面子——你们拿柯克之死当国会纵火案的企图已经失败。

>>1535287

How do you know those dead fags were Democrats?

你怎么知道那两个死掉的基佬是民主党人？

>>1535287

>https://www.wired.com/story/the-campaign-to-destroy-renee-good/

Okay before I even bother to click on this bullshit article, is this going to show thousands of conservatives CELEBRATING her death or will it show conservatives explaining why she was shot? There is a huge difference.

好，在我点开这篇扯淡文章之前先问一句：它是要展示几千个保守派“庆祝”她的死，还是展示保守派解释她为什么被枪击？这两者天差地别。

>You shoot a conservative you get arrested.

>你枪击保守派，你被抓。

Bullshit. Matthew dolloff got away with murder.

放屁。马修·多洛夫(Matthew Dolloff)杀了人照样逍遥。

>>1535286

I mean, its a bit ironic that Charlie Kirk's death has shown us on full display why we can never share a country with liberalism after this point. They're cheering for the death of an American Hero because they themselves have become so virulently anti-American, like a plague to be extinguished. Hopefully, a couple of decades from now, we'll just have one party and it won't be leftist. Everything will be better then.

我是说，有点讽刺：查理·柯克之死让我们清楚地看到，从今往后我们永远无法与自由主义共处一国。他们在为一个美国英雄之死欢呼，因为他们自己已变得极度反美，像该被扑灭的瘟疫。但愿几十年后我们只剩一个政党，而那不会是左翼。到那时一切都会更好。

>>1535289

>They're dead!

>他们死了！

Ba-dum-ching

>>1535291

This was already true until Trump won.

在特朗普赢之前，这话早就成立了。

That's why uniparty Dems, Reps and the media are fucking constantly seething.

这就是为什么联合党派的民主党政客和媒体一直在不停破防。

>>1535286

I like how you say no one on the right celebrated or applauded their deaths and then the very next post is someone applauding their deaths…>>1535289

我喜欢的点是：你刚说右翼没有人为他们的死欢呼叫好，紧接着的下一个帖子就有人在欢呼他们的死……>>1535289

>>1535290

The kid who shot the asshole spraying him in the face with bear mace? Looks pretty clear cut self defense to me. And our legal system agrees.

那个向自己喷防熊喷雾的混蛋被那孩子枪击？在我看来这就是明明白白的正当防卫。我们的司法系统也这么认为。

How is this the same as assisting someone like what happen to Kirk? You know, the fucking topic at hand?

这和“协助”柯克那种事有什么一样的地方？你知道的，就是眼下的主题？

Nice whataboutism where you say someone spraying bear mace in your face doesn’t deserve to be shot. I’m sure you would have shown extreme trigger discipline if you were in his shoes.

好一个“那又如何论”：照你的意思，往你脸上喷防熊喷雾的人不该被枪击。你处在他的位置，肯定能展现出极致的枪口纪律。

>>1535291

Majority of shooters are right wing nuts. This is just a fact.

大多数枪手是右翼疯子。这是事实。

>>1535300

>The kid who shot the asshole spraying him in the face with bear mace? Looks pretty clear cut self defense to me. And our legal system agrees.

>那个向自己喷防熊喷雾的混蛋被那孩子枪击？在我看来这就是明明白白的正当防卫。我们的司法系统也这么认为。

First off, you went on a tirade about how "You shoot a democrat on their order you get protected" and " Fuck off with this moral grandstanding" - When EVERY SINGLE FUCKING PERSON who ever defended themselves from BLM rioters - even if those defenders were democrats (the McCloskeys) - were charged with crimes. But this faggot shoots a man in broad daylight, in a crowd of people, with a line of police 20 steps away, WITH CAMERAS, and yet Colorado prosecutors didn't think there was enough evidence to go to trial - and you want to lecture me about being protected? Fuck you.

第一，你曾长篇大论“你奉命枪击民主党人你受保护”“收起你这套道德说教”——可每一个从 BLM 暴徒手里自卫的人，哪怕自卫者是民主党人（麦考斯基夫妇），全被刑事指控。而这个基佬光天化日、在人群里、离一排警察 20 步、有摄像头的地方枪杀一个人，科罗拉多的检察官却认为证据不足以开庭——然后你还想给我上课说什么“受保护”？去你的。

Second, every time this topic comes up you fags get absolutely wrecked. Want to go for another round? Maybe this time you can explain to me how the can of mace - that he was holding in his hand the entire time - was such a threat to life that Dolloff felt comfortable getting in Keltner's face and didn't pull his gun out until AFTER he was slapped in his bitch face.

第二，每次聊到这话题你们这帮基佬都被打爆。要再来一轮吗？也许这次你能给我解释一下：那罐他全程握在手里的喷雾，怎么会威胁到多洛夫的性命——吓得多洛夫凑到凯尔特纳(Keltner)脸跟前，而且直到被那贱货扇了耳光之后才拔枪。

>How is this the same as assisting someone like what happen to Kirk? You know, the fucking topic at hand?

>这和“协助”柯克那种事有什么一样的地方？你知道的，就是眼下的主题？

Your the one who made up the bullshit claim that "You shoot a conservative you get arrested.", asshole. Maybe you should walk that line back.

编出“你枪击保守派，你被抓”这扯淡说法的是你，混蛋。也许你该把这句收回去。

>Nice whataboutism where you say someone spraying bear mace in your face doesn’t deserve to be shot.

>好一个“那又如何论”：照你的意思，往你脸上喷防熊喷雾的人不该被枪击。

One, you don't. Mace isn't a lethal weapon you idiot. And two, Dolloff was already pulling his pistol out and shot Keltner right as he started spraying. Not because he didn't want to get sprayed, but because Keltner slapped that faggot when he got in his face.

第一，你不需要。防熊喷雾不是致命武器，白痴。第二，多洛夫已经在拔枪，在凯尔特纳刚开始喷的时候就开枪了。不是因为他不想被喷，而是因为凯尔特纳凑到他脸上时扇了那基佬一巴掌。

>I’m sure you would have shown extreme trigger discipline if you were in his shoes.

>你处在他的位置，肯定能展现出极致的枪口纪律。

No, actually you're right. If someone like you slapped me I'd probably draw and cap your monkey ass. The difference is I'm not a BLM supporter in Colorado, so I won't be protected.

不，其实你说得对。要是你这种人扇我一巴掌，我多半会拔枪崩了你这猴屁股。区别在于我不是科罗拉多的 BLM 支持者，所以我不会受保护。

>>1535301

>so I won't be protected.

>所以我不会受保护。

You complain about migrants coming in all the time and shooting Americans

你们整天抱怨移民进来枪杀美国人

Why wouldn't we execute your migrant ass if you did the same? Its not a Dem/MIGA thing, its a 'you're a retarded esl shill' thing

你要真干了同样的勾当，我们为什么不毙了你的移民屁股？这不是民主党/MAGA 的事，这是“你是个智障 ESL 狗托”的事

>>1535300

>I like how you say no one on the right celebrated or applauded their deaths and then the very next post is someone applauding their deaths…

>我喜欢的点是：你刚说右翼没有人为他们的死欢呼叫好，紧接着的下一个帖子就有人在欢呼他们的死……

Wow good job Anon. This one shitpost on 4chan totally makes up for the thousands hitting the griddy on TikTok. Brilliant work finding that perfect 1 to 1 comparison.

哇，干得漂亮老哥。4chan 上一条钓鱼帖，完全抵消了 TikTok 上几千个跳 griddy 舞的。找到这个完美 1:1 对照，真是神作。

>>1535301

You know it's a very simple equation called "Don't try to attack an armed security guard".

你知道这是个非常简单的等式，叫“别试图攻击持枪保安”。

How was he supposed to know it was just mace? Spray someone in the face with an unknown substance, they're in full right to retaliate because they don't know if it's an irritant or something toxic. Hell even if it was an irritant, the fact you're doing so with obvious intent to come closer further and seriously injure you means they're still fully justified in fearing for their life.

他怎么可能知道那只是喷雾？往别人脸上喷不明物质，对方完全有权利反击，因为他们不知道那是刺激物还是有毒的东西。就算真是刺激物，你明显打算继续逼近、造成严重伤害，这也意味着他们完全有理由担心性命。

>>1535301

>Not because he didn't want to get sprayed, but because Keltner slapped that faggot when he got in his face.

>不是因为他不想被喷，而是因为凯尔特纳凑到他脸上时扇了那基佬一巴掌。

Yeah so he assaulted him and then reached for something on his waist? That's pretty clear cut reasonable threat actually.

所以他是先动手打人，然后又伸手去摸腰上的东西？这其实是相当明确的合理威胁。

>>1535305

>You know it's a very simple equation called "Don't try to attack an armed security guard".

>你知道这是个非常简单的等式，叫“别试图攻击持枪保安”。

Here's another simple equation: don't shoot people that aren't a threat to your life. But I can see why so many of you lefties here can't figure that out with how many of you are still cheering for CK's death.

这是另一条简单等式：别枪击对你生命没有威胁的人。但看看你们这帮左翼还有多少人在为 CK 之死欢呼，我理解你们为什么想不通。

>How was he supposed to know it was just mace?

>他怎么可能知道那只是喷雾？

You and

你，还有

>>1535306

>Yeah so he assaulted him and then reached for something on his waist?

>所以他是先动手打人，然后又伸手去摸腰上的东西？

You are both retards who can't read. One more time - pay attention - he had the can of mace in his hand the entire time. And, again, the part you keep dodging, that you always dodge when this gets brought up, is that Dolloff clearly wasn't in fear of his life over the mace because walked up to Keltner, got in his face, pushed up against him, and didn't draw his pistol until AFTER he was slapped.

你俩都是读不懂字的智障。再说一次——注意听——那罐喷雾他全程都握在手里。还有，你一直绕开、每次都绕开的那部分是：多洛夫显然不因那罐喷雾而担心性命，因为他主动走向凯尔特纳、凑脸、贴身，直到被扇了之后才拔枪。

Which makes it murder, but I guess leftists are allowed to commit crimes in blue states with impunity.

这就算谋杀，不过我猜左派在蓝州犯罪可以免罚。

>Hell even if it was an irritant, the fact you're doing so with obvious intent to come closer further

>就算真是刺激物，你明显打算继续逼近、造成严重伤害

Keltner stepped back before he was shot.

凯尔特纳被枪击之前已经后退了。

>>1535309

And Good tried to run over a cop, and Pretti was brandishing his weapon, and Treyvon Martin was resisting arrest

然后古德试图开车碾警察、普雷蒂在挥舞武器、特雷沃恩·马丁在拒捕

You're fundamentally disconnected from reality, you need mental help

你从根本上和现实脱节了，你需要心理治疗

>>1535309

>is that Dolloff clearly wasn't in fear of his life over the mace because walked up to Keltner, got in his face, pushed up against him, and didn't draw his pistol until AFTER he was slapped.

>多洛夫显然不因那罐喷雾而担心性命，因为他主动走向凯尔特纳、凑脸、贴身，直到被扇了之后才拔枪。

Actually yes when you assault someone while having something you can use to disable and continue to assault them, then yes you are fully entitled to fearing for your life.

其实对，当你一边攻击某人、手里还拿着能让人失能从而继续攻击的东西时，你完全有权担心自己的性命。

>Keltner stepped back before he was shot.

>凯尔特纳被枪击之前已经后退了。

To use the mace to disable him.

为了用喷雾让他失能。

The irony is, Dolloff was in far more danger than any of the ICE agents you're constantly arguing were justified in murdering people on the street were.

讽刺的是，多洛夫面临的危险远大于你们一直在论证“当街杀人正当”的任何 ICE 探员。

>>1535312

>Actually yes when you assault someone while having something you can use to disable and continue to assault them, then yes you are fully entitled to fearing for your life.

>其实对，当你一边攻击某人、手里还拿着能让人失能从而继续攻击的东西时，你完全有权担心自己的性命。

Oh yes tell me more how much danger Dolloff was in because he got slapped, and how his reaction was totally based on fear and not anger.

对对对，再给我讲讲多洛夫处境多危险、就因为挨了一巴掌，他的反应完全出于恐惧而不是愤怒。

No in fact better yet, take this same standard and apply it to ICE. By your logic, they should be able to gun down everyone of you faggots that did this.

不，更好的是，把同一标准套到 ICE 上。按你的逻辑，他们应该可以把你们这帮基佬挨个枪毙。

Or you could come down to reality and understand that A) mace is a non-lethal weapon and B) you can't claim self-defense when you're the one who started the confrontation. That "security guard" wasn't following his "security guard" job description when he stopped guarding and went up to start some shit with Keltner. Who, once again, had that mace in his hand, clearly visible, the entire time - and it wasn't until he got slapped that he decided to pull out his gun and shoot.

或者你可以回到现实，明白 A）防熊喷雾是非致命武器，B）挑起冲突的一方不能主张正当防卫。那位“保安”在停止守卫、主动上去找凯尔特纳生事时，就没在履行“保安”职责了。而凯尔特纳——再说一遍——那罐喷雾全程拿在手里、清清楚楚可见；直到挨了那一巴掌，他才决定拔枪开枪。

>To use the mace to disable him.

>为了用喷雾让他失能。

As he was being shot.

正当他中枪的时候。

>The irony is, Dolloff was in far more danger than any of the ICE agents

>多洛夫面临的危险远大于任何 ICE 探员

Oh really? Do go on. Tell me how Keltner was more of a threat.

哦是吗？请继续。给我说说凯尔特纳的威胁怎么更大。

Y'know you might have half a fucking argument if Keltner and Dolloff were in a dark alleyway at 3am - and not in a crowd of people with a line of police nearby!

你知道，如果凯尔特纳和多洛夫是凌晨 3 点在黑暗小巷里——而不是在一群人中间、附近就有一排警察——你这论点兴许还有一半道理！

>>1535287

>No one ever argued that Kirk's shooter was innocent.

>从来没有人主张柯克的枪手是无辜的。

The Left tried to deflect blame by perpetuating antisemitic conspiracy theories.

左派靠散播反犹阴谋论来转移责任。

The argument that Israel would shoot the guy that spent his entire career trying to rally zoomers to zionism was always retarded.

说以色列会枪杀那个毕生都在号召 Z 世代支持犹太复国主义的人，这论点一直是智障的。

>You shoot a conservative you get arrested. You shoot a democrat on their order you get protected.

>你枪击保守派，你被抓。你奉他们之命枪击民主党人，你受保护。

Nigger, dems were allowed to torch cities and shoot at cops with impunity in 2020. Antifa were allowed to reach each summer every year since 2008.

黑鬼，2020 年民主党人可以烧城市、朝警察开枪而免于追究。2008 年以来 antifa 每年夏天都可以撒野。

This isn't a whataboutism. Leftoids have enjoyed unfettered amounts of institutional protection for more than a decade. The only time you get shocked back to your senses is when something like Rittenhouse happens, or when Pretti and Good got plugged for thinking they could keep fucking around with federal officers.

这不是“那又如何论”。十多年来左脑残享受着不受约束的建制保护。唯一能让你们回魂的时刻，就是里滕豪斯那种事发生，或者普雷蒂和古德自以为可以继续戏弄联邦探员而被撂倒的时候。

>esl meltie continues

>ESL 狗托的破防继续

>>1535316

You're literally not american

你压根就不是美国人吧。

>>1535317

>>1535318

No argument detected, opinions rejected.

未检测到论点，观点驳回。

>>1535316

>The Left tried to deflect blame by perpetuating antisemitic conspiracy theories.

>左派靠散播反犹阴谋论来转移责任。

>The argument that Israel would shoot the guy that spent his entire career trying to rally zoomers to zionism was always retarded.

>说以色列会枪杀那个毕生都在号召 Z 世代支持犹太复国主义的人，这论点一直是智障的。

Isn't that literally Candace Owens?

那说的不就是坎迪斯·欧文斯吗？

>>1535323

No, this is a delusional argument

不，这是个妄想论点

You can't bring up things that are actually happening, you have to make shit up

你不能提真实发生的事，你必须编东西

>>1535312

>Dolloff was in far more danger than any of the ICE agents you're constantly arguing were justified in murdering people on the street were.

>多洛夫面临的危险远大于你们一直在论证“当街杀人正当”的任何 ICE 探员。

Mace isn't a lethal weapon.

防熊喷雾不是致命武器。

>>1535323

Candace Owens is a black women repeating white nationalist talking points.

坎迪斯·欧文斯是个复读白人民族主义论点的黑人女性。

I genuinely don't know what you want me to say about her.

我真不知道你想让我对她说什么。

>>1535314

>A) mace is a non-lethal weapon

>A）防熊喷雾是非致命武器

Irrelevant. You spray someone with chemical irritant they're actually fully entitled to light you up for it.

无关。你往人脸上喷化学刺激物，对方完全有权把你打成筛子。

>B) you can't claim self-defense when you're the one who started the confrontation.

>B）挑起冲突的一方不能主张正当防卫。

Who touched who first retard? Your boy was a member of a white supremacist group with brass knuckles on who'd just shoved another member of the group Dolloff was a security guard for. When Dolloff went to make him back off, he slapped him. By every conceivable metric Keltner started the confrontation.

谁先动的手，智障？你家哥们是个戴指虎的白人至上组织成员，刚刚推搡了多洛夫受雇保护的那群人中的另一人。多洛夫上前让他退后时，他扇了多洛夫。按任何 conceivable 的标准，都是凯尔特纳挑起的冲突。

>>1535325

>Mace isn't a lethal weapon.

>防熊喷雾不是致命武器。

It can be lethal in rare cases. Not to mention you have no way of knowing what someone is spraying you with is 'merely' an irritant.

罕见情况下可以致命。更别说你根本无从知道别人往你脸上喷的“只是”刺激物。

>https://www.forbes.com/sites/judystone/2016/03/16/lethal-in-disguise-the-health-hazards-of-pepper-spray/

Especially when you're a white supremacist shithead who'd just physically assaulted both the guy you're macing and the people he was hired to guard.

尤其当你是个刚对被喷者和受雇保护他的人实施肢体攻击的白人至上混蛋时。

>>1535287

>No one ever argued that Kirk's shooter was innocent.

>从来没有人主张柯克的枪手是无辜的。

People have done that. it's just that they are conservative.

有人这么干过。只不过他们是保守派。

>>1535314

>Y'know you might have half a fucking argument if Keltner and Dolloff were in a dark alleyway at 3am - and not in a crowd of people with a line of police nearby!

>如果凯尔特纳和多洛夫是凌晨 3 点在黑暗小巷里——而不是在一群人中间、附近就有一排警察——你这论点兴许还有一半道理！

I like how the crowd of people nearby somehow makes Dolloff unjustified for fearing for his life and not any of the ICE thugs who never even had charges filed against them.

我喜欢的点：附近有人群就 somehow 让多洛夫担心性命不成立了，而从未被起诉的 ICE 打手们却没这问题。

>>1535254

>openly advocated for live executions being shown to young children to 'toughen them up.'

>公开主张给年幼的孩子看现场处决来“磨炼他们”。

No, he did not. Lying about what a dead guy said, when it's on video, is wild.

不，他没有。对死者说过的话撒谎——还留着视频——太野了。

>His bitch wife showing little in the way of actual mourning only adds to it.

>他那贱货老婆几乎看不出真正的哀悼，更加坐实了这一点。

I'm sure you're totally impartial on this subject.

我相信你在这话题上完全中立。

>>1535316

>This isn't a whataboutism. Leftoids have enjoyed unfettered amounts of institutional protection for more than a decade.

>这不是“那又如何论”。十多年来左脑残享受着不受约束的建制保护。

Hey which side got hundreds of their members convicted of assaulting police officers and breaking into a federal building pardoned last year?

嘿，去年是哪一方有好几百名成员因袭击警察、闯入联邦大楼被定罪后被赦免了？

What does any of this have to do with Kirk being BTFO forever while lying about minority gun violence?

这些跟“柯克被永久完爆、还对少数族裔枪支暴力撒谎”有什么关系？

>>1535332

>No, he did not. Lying about what a dead guy said, when it's on video, is wild.

>不，他没有。对死者说过的话撒谎——还留着视频——太野了。

>https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOgM3uPCR8o/?hl=en

I mean it is on video. Multiple times even. Why are you lying about this dead guy?

可那确实有视频。还不止一次。你为什么要对这死者撒谎？

>>1535329

>It can be lethal in rare cases.

>罕见情况下可以致命。

There is no state in the US that recognizes mace as lethal force.

美国没有任何一个州把防熊喷雾认定为致命武力。

>Especially when you're a white supremacist shithead

>尤其当你是个刚实施肢体攻击的白人至上混蛋时

Being a white supremacist has nothing to do with it. The AG dropped this case purposefully.

白人至上身份与此无关。总检察长是故意撤诉的。

>>1535333

Those same people, who got pardoned, by one guy were the subject of one of the biggest crackdowns in American history with absurd judgments, based on tenous law, pushing down huge subjects.

正是被同一人赦免的那批人，曾经历美国史上最大规模的清剿之一——基于牵强的法律、荒谬的判决、重罪压顶。

Meanwhile, Obama was palling around with Bill Ayers and other convicted leftwing terrorists from 1970s enjoy cushy jobs in academia.

与此同时，奥巴马跟比尔·艾尔斯(Bill Ayers)厮混，其他 70 年代被定罪的左翼恐怖分子则在学术界享受肥缺。

>>1535334

They're trying to argue that people memeing on Kirk is an example of how Leftists are violent while ignoring that they've been shilling for ICE agents who murdered people in broad daylight for the last few months.

他们试图论证“拿柯克玩梗证明左派暴力”，却无视过去几个月他们一直在给当街杀人的 ICE 探员站台。

>>1535333

>last year

>去年

What are you talking about

你在说什么

>>1535336

>There is no state in the US that recognizes mace as lethal force.

>美国没有任何一个州把防熊喷雾认定为致命武力。

No, but adding mace to already existing assault is more than enough aggravated assault for self defense to apply.

是不认定，但在已有攻击之上加喷防熊喷雾，足以构成加重攻击罪、让正当防卫成立。

>The AG dropped this case purposefully.

>总检察长是故意撤诉的。

Yeah because Kelters behavior made it clear this was self defense. You can't shove a reporter than slap his security guard before moving to mace him and then expect to be considered an innocent victim.

对，因为凯尔特纳的行为表明这是正当防卫。你不能先推搡记者、再扇他的保安、然后准备喷他，还指望自己被当成无辜受害者。

>>1535337

>with absurd judgments, based on tenous law

>基于牵强的法律、荒谬的判决

They beat cops with flagpoles and broke into the capitol building while it was certifying an election.

他们用旗杆打警察，并在国会正在认证选举时闯进国会大厦。

>>1535327

>Irrelevant.

No.

>You spray someone with chemical irritant they're actually fully entitled to light you up for it.

>你往人脸上喷化学刺激物，对方完全有权把你打成筛子。

Wrong. Again, if this were true ICE would be dropping all you retards for doing this.

错。再说一遍，如果这是真的，ICE 早就把你们这帮这么干的智障全撂倒了。

>Who touched who first retard?

>谁先动的手，智障？

Technically Dolloff when he pushed his chest against Keltner.

严格来说是多洛夫，他把胸口顶上凯尔特纳的时候。

>When Dolloff went to make him back off

>多洛夫上前让他退后时

By getting in his face and talking shit.

通过凑脸喷垃圾话。

>By every conceivable metric Keltner started the confrontation.

>按任何 conceivable 的标准，都是凯尔特纳挑起的冲突。

Even if this were true, and it isn't, Keltner used non-lethal force. Your boy escalated out of anger and shot him. At a minimum this should've gone to trial.

就算这是真的——而它不是——凯尔特纳用的也是非致命武力。你家哥们出于愤怒升级了局势并开枪。这案子至少该开庭。

But you faggots love protecting criminals - and then have the audacity to say some stupid shit like

但你们这帮基佬就是爱保护罪犯——然后还有脸说什么蠢话，比如

>You shoot a conservative you get arrested. You shoot a democrat on their order you get protected.

>你枪击保守派，你被抓。你奉他们之命枪击民主党人，你受保护。

>>1535331

>I like how the crowd of people nearby somehow makes Dolloff unjustified for fearing for his life

>附近有人群就 somehow 让多洛夫担心性命不成立了

You do realize it was both the right and left at this event, right? Dolloff wasn't alone.

你知道那场活动左右两派都有吧？多洛夫不是一个人。

>and not any of the ICE thugs who never even had charges filed against them.

>而从未被起诉的 ICE 打手们却没这问题。

Hey you fags set the standard that mace is a deadly weapon, so ICE should be justified.

嘿，你们这帮基佬定下的标准是喷雾属于致命武器，那 ICE 就该是正当的。

>>1535338

>memeing on Kirk is an example of how Leftists are violent

>拿柯克玩梗证明左派暴力

It's proof that leftoids are willing to shoot you if you disagree with them, laugh about it, and try to make ad hoc justifications after the fact.

这证明的是：左脑残愿意在你不同意他们时枪击你、笑出声、然后事后临时编理由。

Hasan might be a total dickbag guilty of several federal crimes, but I wouldn't ever argue that he deserves to be executed in front of his family. That kind of depravity resides under the providence of leftoids and liggerals who can't take a beat to stop torching their own reputation.

哈桑也许是个混账、犯了几项联邦罪行，但我绝不会主张他该当着家人的面被处决。那种堕落属于左脑残和自由派——他们连一拍都停不下来地烧毁自己的名誉。

>>1535338

>They're trying to argue that people memeing on Kirk is an example of how Leftists are violent

>他们试图论证“拿柯克玩梗证明左派暴力”

Wild, they don't have any actual examples of leftists being violent.

离谱，他们拿不出任何左派暴力的实际例子。

We have multiple right wing retards caught criming in 4k

我们有好几个右翼智障 4K 高清犯罪被拍个正着

Why do they think unsourced lies are going to shift anyones view on this?

他们为什么觉得没信源的谎言能改变任何人的看法？

>>1535343

>Even if this were true, and it isn't

>就算这是真的——而它不是

It is. Kelter assaulted one of the people he was guarding and made repeated threats and slurs. He was more than equipped to be a danger to Dolloff's life should he be disabled by mace and Dolloff had every reason to believe he would do some shit like take his gun or violently assault him should he not have fired.

是真的。凯尔特纳袭击了多洛夫保护的人之一，反复威胁并辱骂。如果他先被喷雾失能，他完全有能力危及多洛夫的性命，多洛夫有充分理由相信：不开枪的话，这家伙可能抢他的枪或暴力袭击他。

>At a minimum this should've gone to trial.

>这案子至少该开庭。

Funny how that doesn't apply to the ICE agents who disobey their own codes of conduct to murder people.

好笑，这套逻辑到了违反自身行为准则、当街杀人的 ICE 探员身上就不适用了。

>>1535346

>Wild, they don't have any actual examples of leftists being violent.

>离谱，他们拿不出任何左派暴力的实际例子。

FUCKING KEK

>>1535341

>Yeah because Kelters behavior made it clear this was self defense.

>因为凯尔特纳的行为表明这是正当防卫。

Slapping someone isn't lethal force. Macing someone isn't lethal force.

扇人耳光不是致命武力。喷人也不是致命武力。

>>1535348

Right? ESL shill is that fucking stupid.

对吧？ESL 狗托就他妈的这么蠢。

They won't be able to post anything because all the crimes they pretend Democrats are doing never happened

他们发不出任何东西，因为他们假装民主党犯下的所有罪行都没发生过

>>1535346

>Wild, they don't have any actual examples of leftists being violent.

>离谱，他们拿不出任何左派暴力的实际例子。

Postpartum psychosis levels of delusion.

产后精神病级别的妄想。

>>1535347

>He was more than equipped to be a danger to Dolloff's life

>他完全有能力危及多洛夫的性命

How? Let's say worst case scenario happens and Dolloff gets blinded by mace. Even in that scenario he wouldn't be able to take Dolloff's gun because there's a crowd of BLM supporters right behind him, and behind them are a line of cops.

怎么危及？假设最坏情况发生、多洛夫被喷雾弄瞎了眼。就算那样，他也抢不走多洛夫的枪，因为他身后就是一群 BLM 支持者，后面还有一排警察。

Also, again, Dolloff was already pulling his gun out when he got slapped - and Keltner didn't start spraying until he already had a bullet in his chest.

另外再重复一次：多洛夫挨巴掌时已经正在拔枪——而凯尔特纳开始喷的时候，胸口已经吃了一颗子弹。

>Funny how that doesn't apply to the ICE agents who disobey their own codes of conduct to murder people.

>好笑，这套逻辑到了违反自身行为准则、当街杀人的 ICE 探员身上就不适用了。

When you start policing your people I'll police mine.

等你开始管教你们那边的人，我就管教我这边的。

>>1535349

>Guys I can just keep hitting you but it's not lethal force

>各位，我可以一直打你，反正这不是致命武力

Yeah if someone is moving to beat the shit out of you, you're actually fully entitled to blowing them away. Especially if they've already threatened you and your employers multiple times.

对，如果有人要往死里揍你，你完全有权崩了他。尤其如果他已经多次威胁过你和你的雇主。

>>1535353

>When you start policing your people I'll police mine.

>等你开始管教你们那边的人，我就管教我这边的。

So you're admitting that you're in the wrong?

所以你承认你错了？

We'll accept your concession

我们接受你的认输

>>1535354

>you're actually fully entitled to blowing them away

>你完全有权崩了他

No, anon.

不，老哥。

Go consult an AI or something. Don't spread misinformation.

去咨询个 AI 什么的。别散播错误信息。

>>1535357

It's true in most sane places.

在大多数讲道理的地方这是真的。

>>1535356

>So you're admitting that you're in the wrong?

>所以你承认你错了？

We'll never know without a trial. And since you don't want Dolloff to stand for trial...

不开庭就永远不知道。而既然你不想让多洛夫受审……

Oh wait, I forgot. The only people who stand trial are those who defend themselves from BLM.

哦等等，我忘了。只有从 BLM 手里自卫的人才受审。

>>1535354

>Yeah if someone is moving to beat the shit out of you, you're actually fully entitled to blowing them away.

>如果有人要往死里揍你，你完全有权崩了他。

So why did you lefties sperg so hard over the Rittenhouse case?

那你们左翼当年为什么为里滕豪斯案疯狂到炸毛？

>>1535353

>Even in that scenario he wouldn't be able to take Dolloff's gun because there's a crowd of BLM supporters right behind him, and behind them are a line of cops.

>就算那样，他也抢不走多洛夫的枪，因为他身后就是一群 BLM 支持者，后面还有一排警察。

So you're just supposed to let people kill you because there's a crowd? Again, funny how this doesn't apply to you.

所以因为周围有人，你就该任由别人杀死你？又是那句，好笑的是这套逻辑对你们不适用。

>and Keltner didn't start spraying until he already had a bullet in his chest.

>而凯尔特纳开始喷的时候，胸口已经吃了一颗子弹。

But he was about to and had already bought that bullet via repeated threats and assaulting both Dolloff and one of his employers.

但他正要喷，而且已经通过反复威胁、袭击多洛夫和他的雇主之一，提前买下了那颗子弹。

>ESL shill can't keep track of more than one person at a time

>ESL 狗托一次跟踪不来一个以上的人

You know, Grindr is probably back up, you don't have to be sore about not being sore

你知道 Grindr 八成恢复服务了，你不必再为“没有酸痛”而愤愤不平

>>1535361

>So why did you lefties sperg so hard over the Rittenhouse case?

>那你们左翼当年为什么为里滕豪斯案疯狂到炸毛？

So then why are you sperging so hard about this one?

那你现在又为什么为这个案子疯狂到炸毛？

>>1535361

They didn't expect the Right to fight back.

他们没料到右翼会反击。

Many such cases.

这种案例多了去了。

>>1535362

>So you're just supposed to let people kill you because there's a crowd?

>所以因为周围有人，你就该任由别人杀死你？

Oh my god... you're retarded... mace is NON-LETHAL... Holy shit.

我的天……你智障了……防熊喷雾是非致命的……我的天。

>>1535367

>Guys it was a non-lethal repeated assault leading into something that would've disabled him

>各位，那是非致命的、反复的攻击，还升级到会让他失能的程度

>There was a crowd watching so obviously he should've just let him keep hitting him and then blind him!

>周围有人在看，所以他显然应该继续挨打，然后被弄瞎！

Charges dismissed, sucks to suck. Now don't you have a podcaster to fake cry over?

指控已撤销，活该倒霉。现在你不是该去为哪个播客主假哭吗？

>>1535370

>>Guys it was a non-lethal repeated assault

>>各位，那是非致命的、反复的攻击

He was only slapped once anon. Nice try making this out to be a serious threat to his life. Fucking Rittenhouse was in far more danger than Dolloff ever will be, but you cunts were still howling for blood when the not-guilty verdict was read.

他只被扇了一次，老哥。把这描绘成对性命的严重威胁， nice try。该死的里滕豪斯面临的危险都远超多洛夫会遇到的任何情况，而无罪判决宣读时你们这帮贱货还在嚎着要见血。

At least he had a trial.

至少他受过审。

>so obviously he should've just let him keep hitting him

>所以他显然应该继续挨打

Didn't happen. Now we're just in making shit up territory.

没发生过。现在我们已进入纯编造领域。

>>1535370

>Charges dismissed, sucks to suck.

>指控已撤销，活该倒霉。

States playing favorites with politically motivated violence is a bad thing, retard.

各州在政治动机的暴力上拉偏架是件坏事，智障。

>>1535373

>Rittenhouse was in far more danger than Dolloff ever will be

>里滕豪斯面临的危险都远超多洛夫会遇到的任何情况

Crossing state lines to start a fight changes is a pretty big difference

跨州找人打架，这一点区别可不小

>>1535375

The state charged him, realized there was no way he was going to be found guilty because of how aggressive the "victim" was and the fact he'd already threatened and assaulted him, then dismissed them to avoid the waste of time and money.

州里起诉了他，随即发现鉴于“受害者”的攻击性和他此前的威胁与袭击行为，他绝无可能被判有罪，于是撤销指控以免浪费时间金钱。

Meanwhile, right now the current administration is harboring three murderers the state actively wants to press charges against and impeding any form of investigation despite the fact even their own stories don't line up with their own protocol. That's a bit more concerning, ain't it?

与此同时，本届政府正在包庇三名州政府积极想要起诉的杀人犯，并阻挠一切形式的调查——尽管他们自己的说辞都对不上自己的规程。这才是更令人担忧的，不是吗？

>>1535335

>Didn't say it should be shown to kids to "toughen them up"

>没说该给孩子看处决来“磨炼他们”

Thanks for ending your own argument.

谢谢你亲手终结自己的论点。

>>1535381

>The state charged him, realized there was no way he was going to be found guilty because of how aggressive the "victim" was and the fact he'd already threatened and assaulted him, then dismissed them to avoid the waste of time and money.

>州里起诉了他，随即发现鉴于“受害者”的攻击性和他此前的威胁与袭击行为，他绝无可能被判有罪，于是撤销指控以免浪费时间金钱。

And I'm sure it had nothing to do with politics and how a BLM supporter shot a right-winger.

而且我确信这和政治毫无关系，和一个 BLM 支持者枪杀右翼人士毫无关系。

>>1535382

>No guys, he just said they should be televised and public with ads so that kids can learn from them

>不是吧哥们，他只是说那些处决应该电视转播、公开进行、配上广告，好让孩子们学习

>>1535342

The overwhelming majority were charged with a law passed after Enron designed to stop people shredding evidence.

他们绝大多数被依据安然事件后通过的一项法律起诉，那法律本是用来阻止人们销毁证据的。

Yes. Extremely tenuous. Overturned in Fischer v. United States and resulted in charges being dropped against ~200 defendants.

对。极其牵强。在 Fischer 诉美国案中被推翻，并导致约 200 名被告的指控被撤销。

>>1535384

>And I'm sure it had nothing to do with politics and how a BLM supporter shot a right-winger.

>而且我确信这和政治毫无关系，和一个 BLM 支持者枪杀右翼人士毫无关系。

No, it had everything to do with the fact Kelter assaulted both Dolloff and one of his employers and repeatedly threatened them prior even when Dolloff tried to make him back off.

不，这完全是因为凯尔特纳袭击了多洛夫和他的雇主之一，并且早在多洛夫让他退后之前就反复威胁过他们。

>>1535385

>Okay he didn't say what I said he said.... BUT

>好吧他没说我编的他说的话……但是

Nope.

>>1535387

mhm. Sure. Every single time anyone defends themselves from BLM they go to court or plead guilty, but when they shoot someone? Eh, not enough evidence to go to trial. Why bother?

嗯嗯，当然。每一次有人从 BLM 手里自卫都上法庭或认罪，可他们枪杀别人时？呃，证据不足以开庭。何必呢？

What a fucking coincidence. It's almost as if you shoot a leftist you get arrested. You shoot a conservative on their order you get protected.

真他妈的巧。就好像你枪击左翼你被抓、你奉命枪击保守派你受保护似的。

>>1535386

>The overwhelming majority were charged with a law passed after Enron designed to stop people shredding evidence.

>他们绝大多数被依据安然事件后通过的一项法律起诉，那法律本是用来阻止人们销毁证据的。

No, they were charged with attempting to obstruct an official proceeding. Something they did in fact do when they tried to stop the election from being certified.

不，他们被控的罪名是试图妨碍官方程序。他们试图阻止选举认证时，确实做了这事。

>Overturned in Fischer v. United States and resulted in charges being dropped against ~200 defendants.

>在 Fischer 诉美国案中被推翻，并导致约 200 名被告的指控被撤销。

One specific portion of the law was overturned. Charges had to be reconsidered but there's none on record of them being dropped entirely, and the irony is obstruction wasn't the only thing they were being charged with. Fischer himself got that single charge dropped and yet still was going to trial afterwards until Trump pardoned him and everyone else.

被推翻的是法律中一个特定条款。指控确实需要重新审视，但没有任何记录显示它们被全部撤销。讽刺的是，妨碍罪也不是他们被控的唯一罪名。菲舍尔本人也只是那一项指控被撤销，此后仍在准备受审，直到特朗普把他和其他人全部赦免。

>>1535389

Literally said it was an "initiation" to let kids watch public executions.

他 literally 说过让孩子们看公开处决是一种“启蒙(initiation)”。

Why do you guys care about Charlie so much when his own wife didn’t?

为什么你们这么在乎查理，连他自己的老婆都不在乎？

>>1535390

You know it helps when the entire confrontation is caught on camera, close up, so there's zero ambiguity about what happened that needed to be clarified/determined in court.

你知道的，整个冲突被近距离摄像头完整拍下，事情经过毫无含糊、无需在法庭上澄清/判定，这很有帮助。

Oh, and while we're on failed attempts to parrot talking points, care to explain why Minnesota literally wasn't allowed to participate in the "investigation" of multiple murders of their citizens because ICE were the perpetrators?

哦，既然我们在比拼复读话术，能不能解释一下：为什么明尼苏达被 literal 禁止参与对本州多起公民谋杀案的“调查”——因为作案者是 ICE？

>>1535391

>No, they were charged with attempting to obstruct an official proceeding

>不，他们被控的罪名是试图妨碍官方程序

Yes. The Enron law.

对。安然法。

>One specific portion of the law was overturned

>被推翻的是法律中一个特定条款

Incorrect.

>t there's none on record of them being dropped entirely

>没有任何记录显示它们被全部撤销

They all got dropped. To the extent that 65 people who had already been convicted had their convictions reversed.

全都被撤销了。甚至 65 名已被定罪的人被撤销了定罪。

We've gone from

我们已经从

>No, there was no tenuous application of the law

>不，法律的适用毫不牵强

To

>Okay there was... BUT

>好吧是有……但是

Not happening.

没在发生。

Why do rightists care about Charlie so much?

为什么右翼这么在乎查理？

>>1535125

So many others don't, so why does this fact make rightists seethe so much?

很多人都不在乎，为什么这个事实让右翼破防成这样？

>>1535396

>Yes. The Enron law.

>对。安然法。

That's not "dedicated to shredding documents", that's dedicated to preventing people from interfering in official proceedings.

那不是“专为销毁文件设的法律”，那是防止人们干扰官方程序的法律。

>To the extent that 65 people who had already been convicted had their convictions reversed.

>甚至 65 名已被定罪的人被撤销了定罪。

Source on that? Because again, even Fischer himself was still going to trial for multiple counts.

信源呢？因为再说一遍，连菲舍尔本人都还因多项罪名待审。

>>1535393

Piece of shit

臭狗屎

>>1535397

Because they're still pissed their attempt to use him getting Kirked as a Reichstag Fire moment failed and they accidentally streisand effect-ed their way into making his death a meme by demanding everyone feel sad about it.

因为他们还在恼火：他们试图把柯克被杀当国会纵火案契机的尝试失败了，而他们要求所有人哀悼的努力，意外触发了斯特赖桑德效应，把他的死变成了一个梗。

>>1535394

>You know it helps when the entire confrontation is caught on camera, close up, so there's zero ambiguity about what happened that needed to be clarified/determined in court.

>你知道的，整个冲突被近距离摄像头完整拍下，事情经过毫无含糊、无需在法庭上澄清/判定，这很有帮助。

Exactly! Which is why Dolloff should be in jail right now, for shooting Keltner. Not because he was a threat to his life - he wasn't - but because he couldn't control himself and murdered that man in a fit of rage for slapping him.

完全正确！所以多洛夫现在就该坐牢，为枪杀凯尔特纳。不是因为后者威胁到他的性命——没有——而是因为他控制不住自己，因挨了一巴掌而在暴怒中谋杀了那个人。

But he gets a pass for being a BLM supporter. So I don't want to hear shit from you fucks about the right being protected.

但他因为是 BLM 支持者就得到通行。所以我不想再听你们这帮混蛋抱怨什么右翼受保护。

>>1535392

Yes and? He didn't say it should be done to "toughen them up" and he didn't specify "young" children.

对，然后呢？他没说该用来“磨炼他们”，也没具体说是“年幼的”孩子。

And this does not change the fact that, a year after his death, you're still celebrating and mocking the public murder of a family man (and attacking his widow, for some reason). It doesn't change the fact that we know this, or that your proud of it.

而这改变不了一个事实：他死了一年之后，你们仍在庆祝和嘲弄一个顾家男人被当众谋杀（还不知为何去攻击他的遗孀）。这改变不了我们知道这一点的事实，也改变不了你们引以为豪的事实。

>>1535398

>That's not "dedicated to shredding documents", that's dedicated to preventing people from interfering in official proceedings

>那不是“专为销毁文件设的法律”，那是防止人们干扰官方程序的法律

Read the ruling in the case I cited.

去读我引的那起案件的判决书。

>even Fischer himself was still going to trial for multiple counts

>连菲舍尔本人都还因多项罪名待审

Yes, but not the count that got thrown out.

对，但不含被撤销的那一项。

>But he gets a pass for being a BLM supporter. So I don't want to hear shit from you fucks about the right being protected.

>所以我不想再听你们这帮混蛋抱怨什么右翼受保护。

Your continued insistence that your drug induced hallucinations should count as much as objective reality will continue being declined.

你坚持认为你的药物幻觉应与客观现实等重，这将继续被拒绝受理。

>>1535401

>Which is why Dolloff should be in jail right now, for shooting Keltner. Not because he was a threat to his life - he wasn't - but because he couldn't control himself and murdered that man in a fit of rage for slapping him.

>所以多洛夫现在就该坐牢，为枪杀凯尔特纳。不是因为后者威胁到他的性命——没有——而是因为他控制不住自己，因挨了一巴掌而在暴怒中谋杀了那个人。

This is your biased opinion and does not affect reality. Kelter repeatedly attacked and threatened both Dolloff and his employers and was even armed with a gun himself on top of that.

这只是你带偏见的观点，不影响现实。凯尔特纳反复袭击并威胁多洛夫和他的雇主，而且他本人还带着枪。

>So I don't want to hear shit from you fucks about the right being protected.

>所以我不想再听你们这帮混蛋抱怨什么右翼受保护。

The right wing admin is literally actively preventing multiple ICE members from even having their shootings INVESTIGATED by the state where they killed people. They've directly said only ICE is allowed to investigate ICE, despite multiple occasions where ICE agents have been caught lying to falsely justify agent involved shootings. That's a side being protected.

右翼政府字面意义上在积极阻止多名 ICE 成员的枪击案在案发州受到任何调查。他们直接说只有 ICE 有权调查 ICE——尽管 ICE 探员多次被抓到撒谎、虚假正当化涉及探员的枪击。这才叫一边受保护。

>>1535404

Do you have a source this got 65 convictions reversed or no?

你有信源证明 65 人的定罪被撤销吗，没有？

>Yes, but not the count that got thrown out.

>对，但不含被撤销的那一项。

Wow so you're admitting they weren't just charged under legal bullshit. Thanks

哇，所以你承认他们不全是靠法律扯淡被起诉的。谢谢

>>1535399

>Erika starts doing WWE walkouts at arenas once golden boy gets Kirk’s

>金童替柯克挨了枪后，埃丽卡开始在各场馆上演 WWE 式入场

>Conservatives expect anyone to care when she clearly doesn’t

>既然她明显不在乎，保守派还指望谁在乎

>>1535408

>Wow so you're admitting they weren't just charged under legal bullshit

>哇，所以你承认他们不全是靠法律扯淡被起诉的

65 were.

65 人被撤销了。

>>1535410

Again, do you have a source that any convictions were overturned?

再说一遍，你有信源证明任何定罪被推翻吗？

>>1535409

>Hey man so the event organizers did something in poor taste so it's totally cool for me to relentlessly attack this widow who saw her husband get executed on tv

>嘿哥们，活动主办方品味低下，所以我没完没了地攻击这位在电视上目睹丈夫被处决的遗孀就 totally 没问题

You're just a bad person. Like, Kirk had some really shitty opinions and I don't like his politics at all. But you and all the rest of you fucking weirdos are worse than him, in every conceivable way.

你就是个坏人。这么说吧，柯克有些很烂的观点，我完全不喜欢他的政治。但你和你们这帮该死的怪人，在每一个 conceivable 的层面上都比他更坏。

>>1535407

>This is your biased opinion and does not affect reality.

>这只是你带偏见的观点，不影响现实。

Like you said, we can clearly see it on camera.

就像你说的，我们能在镜头上清清楚楚看到。

>Kelter repeatedly attacked

>凯尔特纳反复袭击

Bullshit. You keep saying this. It keeps being not true. Keltner slapped Dolloff ONCE. One time.

放屁。你一直这么说，它一直不成立。凯尔特纳只扇了多洛夫一次。一次。

And, again, for the ten thousandth time, Dolloff didn't consider him to be a threat at all, because he only pulled his gun out and shot AFTER being slapped. Not when Keltner "attacked and threatened both Dolloff and his employees", but after he was slapped.

而且，第一万次重复：多洛夫根本不认为他是威胁，因为他是在被扇了之后才拔枪开枪的。不是在凯尔特纳“袭击并威胁多洛夫和他的雇员”时，而是在他挨了耳光之后。

>and was even armed with a gun himself on top of that.

>而且他本人还带着枪。

That Dolloff didn't know about because it was never pulled. So that nullifies that argument.

多洛夫并不知道，因为枪从未拔出来过。所以这个论点作废。

>The right wing admin is literally actively preventing multiple ICE members from even having their shootings INVESTIGATED by the state where they killed people.

>右翼政府字面意义上在积极阻止多名 ICE 成员的枪击案在案发州受到任何调查。

I don't want to hear it. You're not even sending murderers to trial when they're on camera killing people that aren't a threat. So I don't want to hear it.

我不想听。你们连对着镜头杀人、受害者毫无威胁的凶手都不送审。所以我什么都不想听。

You get what you fucking deserve.

你活该。

>>1535411

>Source

>Source

>Source

So we've gone from

所以我们已经从

>They weren't charged using sketchy law!

>他们不是用可疑的法律被起诉的！

To

>No, that case isn't about that law

>不，那个案子不涉及那部法律

To

>Okay, but some of them had other charges (lol wtf?)

>好吧，但他们有些还有别的罪名（哈哈什么鬼？）

To now

走到了现在

>Source!

>>1535414

You still haven't shown any proof charges were dismissed.

你还是没拿出任何证据证明指控被撤销。

meanwhile, esl shill's mother is somewhere crying, wishing he didn't turn out this way

与此同时，ESL 狗托他妈正在某个角落里哭，希望他没长成这德行

>>1535415

You're saying that a bunch of district courts allowed unlawful charges to be asserted against defendants?

你是说一串地区法院都允许了对被告施加非法指控？

>>1535413

>Keltner slapped Dolloff ONCE. One time.

>凯尔特纳只扇了多洛夫一次。一次。

After he'd already shoved and slapped others nearby. Including the people Dolloff was contracted to.

在那之前他已经推搡并扇了附近的其他人。包括多洛夫受雇保护的对象。

>Dolloff didn't consider him to be a threat at all, because he only pulled his gun out and shot AFTER being slapped. Not when Keltner "attacked and threatened both Dolloff and his employees", but after he was slapped.

>多洛夫根本不认为他是威胁，因为他是在被扇了之后才拔枪开枪的。不是在凯尔特纳“袭击并威胁多洛夫和他的雇员”时，而是在他挨了耳光之后。

This ignores the reason why Dolloff was close enough for Keltner to slap was because he was making him back off after he shoved one of his employers. Have you even read up on this topic?

这无视了多洛夫为什么会近到挨打的原因：他在凯尔特纳推搡了他的雇主之一后，上前让对方退后。你研究过这个话题吗？

>That Dolloff didn't know about because it was never pulled. So that nullifies that argument.

>多洛夫并不知道，因为枪从未拔出来过。所以这个论点作废。

He could see it.

他能看见。

>>1535418

Per the ruling, charges would need to be reconsidered per case, not automatically dismissed. Now again, do you have a source saying that 65 people had their charges dismissed or not?

按判决，指控需要逐案重新审视，而不是自动撤销。现在再说一遍：你到底有没有信源说 65 人的指控被撤销了？

>>1535412

>The people who were close to Charlie and knew him are picking at his corpse like vultures, but you should have more respect than them

>亲近查理、了解查理的人正像秃鹫一样撕扯他的尸体，但你该比他们更有敬意

His own wife was glad when he got killed. Why not start with condemning them?

他自己的老婆听说他被杀时还挺高兴的。怎么不从谴责他们开始？

>>1535416

>he

ESL shill's mom is definitely regretting that they survived the abortion

ESL 狗托他妈绝对在后悔当年堕胎没堕干净

>>1535421

>His own wife was glad when he got killed.

>他自己的老婆听说他被杀时还挺高兴的。

You're not beating the allegations bud.

这些指控你洗不掉了，兄弟。

>>1535420

>Now again, do you have a source saying that 65 people had their charges dismissed or not?

>现在再说一遍：你到底有没有信源说 65 人的指控被撤销了？

Yes. Do you have a PACER account? No? Can't see it then lmao.

有。你有 PACER 账户吗？没有？那你就看不到，哈哈。

>>1535423

What allegations? Do you think Im Tyler?

什么指控？你以为我是泰勒(Tyler)吗？

>>1535424

So no, you don't.

所以就是说，你没有。

>>1535425

>What allegations?

>什么指控？

Of being a bad person.

关于你是个坏人。

>>1535426

Do you feel like you've saved enough face after the spanking you got a couple of posts ago?

几帖之前被揍成那样，你觉得自己挽回面子了吗？

>>1535419

>After he'd already shoved and slapped others nearby. Including the people Dolloff was contracted to.

>在那之前他已经推搡并扇了附近的其他人。包括多洛夫受雇保护的对象。

Yet you keep trying to imply that Keltner attacked Dolloff multiple times. You fucked up earlier with

可你一直试图暗示凯尔特纳多次攻击多洛夫。你前面搞砸过一次：

>There was a crowd watching so obviously he should've just let him keep hitting him and then blind him!

>周围有人在看，所以他显然应该继续挨打，然后被弄瞎！

Still not a justification to shoot him btw.

顺便说，这仍不构成开枪打他的正当理由。

>This ignores the reason why Dolloff was close enough for Keltner to slap was because he was making him back off after he shoved one of his employers.

>这无视了多洛夫为什么会近到挨打的原因：他在凯尔特纳推搡了他的雇主之一后，上前让对方退后。

Still doesn't change that he didn't consider him a threat, and only killed him after his pride was hurt.

这仍改变不了他不认为凯尔特纳是威胁、只是在自尊受伤后才杀了他。

>Have you even read up on this topic?

>你研究过这个话题吗？

Have you?

你研究过吗？

>He could see it.

>他能看见。

It was concealed. So how the fuck do you know that? Does Dolloff have X-ray vision?

枪是 concealed 的。那你怎么他妈知道的？多洛夫有 X 光眼吗？

>>1535427

Im not Charlie’s widow

我不是查理的遗孀

>>1535431

You realize that it doesn't offend or upset me in anyway, right? I see the way you guys act and think

你意识到这完全冒犯不了我、也惹不恼我吧？我看得到你们这帮人是怎么行事的、怎么想的

>Oh wow, what an abhorrent human

>哦哇，真是个可憎的人

That's it.

就这。

>>1535430

>Yet you keep trying to imply that Keltner attacked Dolloff multiple times.

>可你一直试图暗示凯尔特纳多次攻击多洛夫。

He attacked Dolloff once after already attacking his employers then moved to pepper spray him.

他在已经袭击过雇员之后攻击了多洛夫一次，然后转向 Pepper spray 他。

>Still doesn't change that he didn't consider him a threat, and only killed him after his pride was hurt.

>这仍改变不了他不认为凯尔特纳是威胁、只是在自尊受伤后才杀了他。

Not your place to judge and legally he was in the clear. Hence why charges were dismissed.

轮不到你来评判，而且从法律上讲他没毛病。所以指控才被撤销了。

>>1535311

They get help constantly from their billionaire media peers.

他们那些亿万富翁媒体同行可没少帮他们。

>>1535432

it's literally your job to defend pedophiles 24/7

全天候替恋童癖辩护本来就是你的本职工作

>>1535435

Sir, this is an Arby's.

先生，这里是艾比快餐店（Arby's）。

>>1535433

>He attacked Dolloff once

>他袭击过多洛夫（Dolloff）一次

Glad we finally established that.

很高兴我们终于把这一点确认了。

>after already attacking his employers then moved to pepper spray him.

>在已经袭击过他雇主之后，又拿辣椒喷雾喷他。

Still not a justification for - or the reason why - Dolloff shooting him.

这依然不构成多洛夫开枪打他的理由，也不是开枪的原因。

>Not your place to judge

>轮不到你来评判

Fuck you. Absolutely my place to judge since this didn't go to trial.

去你的。这案子根本没上过法庭，凭什么轮不到我评判。

>and legally he was in the clear.

>从法律上讲他没毛病。

Except he wasn't, and the only reason why he's not in jail right now is because this took place in a blue state.

可他明明有毛病，他现在没蹲监狱的唯一原因是案发地在一个蓝州。

>>1535311

>You're fundamentally disconnected from reality, you need mental help

>你从根本上脱离现实了，你需要看看心理医生

Projection.

>>1535437

you need to work on your acting skills

你还是先练练演技吧

>>1535439

But non-Americans have every right to judge why American crimes don't get prosecuted

但非美国人完全有权利评判为什么美国的罪行不被起诉

>>1535432

I just dont get why you want to finger wag at people making jokes on someone when the people that immediately knew him couldn’t give less of a fuck

我就是搞不懂，连死者身边的人都在乎得要死，你却要对拿这个开玩笑的人指指点点，图啥？

>>1535287

Don't forget the far right is still seething that Derek Chauvin was found guilty for murdering George Floyd and still smearing Floyd.

别忘了，极右到现在还在为肖万（Chauvin）谋杀弗洛伊德（Floyd）被判有罪而破防，还在继续抹黑弗洛伊德。

>>1535350

Don't forget, the guy who apparently shot kirk was a follower of Nick Fuentes. So this classic right on right violence.

别忘了，据说开枪打柯克（Kirk）的那人是尼克·富恩特斯（Nick Fuentes）的追随者。所以这是经典的右派打右派。

>>1535442

>I don't know why you'd call me a garbage human for being a garbage human

>我不明白你为什么骂我是人渣，明明我就是人渣

>>1535445

Why dont you have this smoke for Erika and the rest of Charlie’s team?

你要不要替艾丽卡（Erika）和查理团队的其余人抽这口烟？

What’s bad about pointing out these people didn’t care when died?

指出这些人在别人死的时候毫无同情心，有什么问题？

>>1535455

They're a garbage human themselves, they don't care about that.

他们自己就是人渣，才不在乎那种事。

They're just paid to agitate

他们就是拿了钱来带节奏的

>You realize that it doesn't offend or upset me in anyway, right?

>你知道这不管怎么都冒犯不到我、惹不恼我，对吧？

You only have the right to say "I disagree with your saying 'Charlie Kirk was an inferior subhuman rightard that got what it fucking deserved for so much as thinking of having wrong opinions when all he had to do was not allow wrong opinions to exist in his one brain cell in the first place', but I defend to the death your right to say it". So much as thinking of being offended by what others say about that subhuman rightard, and you're an anti-Freedom enemy of America and everything it stands for.

你只有权利说“我不同意你说的‘查理·柯克是个劣等的次人类右棍，死得活该，谁叫他脑子里那一个脑细胞居然敢产生错误观点，他明明只要一开始就不允许错误观点存在就行了’，但我誓死捍卫你说话的权利”。哪怕只是因为别人骂那个次人类右棍而你感觉被冒犯，你就是反自由的美利坚公敌，跟美国及其代表的一切为敌。

tl;dr: Stop whining, you woke right SJW snowflake.

长话短说：别哭了，你个觉醒右翼（woke right）的白左圣母雪花。

Fuck your feelings. Those three words must stick in your throat now, eh rightards? But not Charlie's.

去你的感受。右棍们，“尊重别人的感受”这三个字现在是不是卡在嗓子眼里了？反正卡不到查理的嗓子眼里。

>>1535443

And the meltdown when the verdict was passed was legendary

判决下来那天他们的当场崩溃堪称传奇

https://archived.moe/news/thread/829579

>>1535480

Chauvin still has time to go, he must be getting nervous that Black Friday is coming up again

肖万还得蹲很久呢，他肯定开始紧张“黑色星期五”又要来了

>>1535467

>you're an anti-Freedom enemy of America and everything it stands for

>你就是反自由的美利坚公敌，跟美国及其代表的一切为敌

Democracy is built on free speech. Advocating for the death of people with contrary political opinions to yours isn't only suicidal, it's literally against the spirit of Democratic debate as a national principle.

民主建立在言论自由之上。鼓吹让政治观点和你相左的人去死，不光是自杀行为，更是彻底背离了民主辩论作为国家原则的精神。

>>1535490

which is why ice agents who murder people should face trial

所以那些杀人的移民与海关执法局（ICE）探员也该上法庭受审

>>1535490

>Advocating for the death of people

>鼓吹让人去死

Mocking the retard for catching a bullet isn't the same as advocating for him to be shot.

嘲笑那个吃枪子的智障，跟鼓吹他该被枪毙是两码事。

>>1535491

Once again: fags are not people.

再重复一遍：基佬不算人。

We can debate the Pretti case, but in the Good case it was entirely justified.

普雷蒂（Pretti）那案子还可以讨论，但古德（Good）那案子完全就是正当的。

But nothing of value was lost in either situation thus, there's nothing to litigate.

反正两起都没损失什么有价值的东西，所以没什么好打官司的。

>>1535492

>'Charlie Kirk was an inferior subhuman rightard that got what it fucking deserved for so much as thinking of having wrong opinions when all he had to do was not allow wrong opinions to exist in his one brain cell in the first place'

>“查理·柯克是个劣等的次人类右棍，死得活该，谁叫他脑子里那一个脑细胞居然敢产生错误观点，他明明只要一开始就不允许错误观点存在就行了”

You're an idiot and deserve everything bad that happens to you.

你就是个白痴，活该遭遇一切倒霉事。

>>1535496

this is why you will be ridiculed until you die

所以你到死都会被嘲笑着

>>1535491

Hitting federal agents over with your car isn't free speech.

开车撞联邦探员可不算言论自由。

>>1535497

Who quote, faggot?

引用在哪呢，死基佬？

>>1535501

That didn’t happen.

这事根本没发生过。

>>1535501

easily disproven fox news propaganda isn't reality

一戳就破的福克斯新闻宣传不等于现实

>>1535503

The irony of BLM leftoid brain rot is that it convinced federal agents to wear chest cameras now.

黑命贵（BLM）左棍脑残逻辑最讽刺的地方，就是逼得联邦探员现在都穿上胸前执法记录仪了。

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkOjILx3dO0

>>1535502

>>1535503

You have to wonder what that ICE faggot is doing now. He's not stupid enough to still be working, right?

真想知道那个ICE基佬现在在干嘛。他总不至于蠢到还在干这行吧？

He knows it wasn't a good kill, and he has to be looking at Chauvin and knowing thats his future.

他知道那不是一枪好杀，他看着肖万的下场，就知道那就是自己的未来。

>>1535508

>convinced federal agents to wear chest cameras now.

>逼得联邦探员现在都穿上胸前执法记录仪了。

it didn't. He was taking this with his phone.

没有的事。他那是用手机拍的。

Meanwhile now ICE actively refuses to release body cam footage unless they "review" it after they got caught lying about justified shoots in court multiple times.

而ICE在法庭上多次被发现就“正当击毙”撒谎之后，现在干脆拒绝公布执法记录仪视频，除非他们先“审阅”一遍。

>>1535490

>Advocating for the death of people with contrary political opinions to yours isn't only suicidal, it's literally against the spirit of Democratic debate as a national principle.

>鼓吹让政治观点和你相左的人去死，不光是自杀行为，更是彻底背离了民主辩论作为国家原则的精神。

incredibly funny saying this when the crowd reaction as the RNC today to a mention of Mamdani and El-Sayed was a chant of "He should be shot!"

说这话真是笑死人，今天共和党全国代表大会（RNC）现场一提到马姆达尼（Mamdani）和埃尔-赛义德（El-Sayed），人群齐声高喊“该毙了他！”

>>1535511

>Mamdani and El-Sayed

>马姆达尼和埃尔-赛义德

Billionaires in the US and Israel really programmed a bunch of low IQ morons to hate anyone genuinely looking to improve America

美国和以色列的亿万富翁们真是成功给一群低智商蠢货编程，让他们恨所有真心想改善美国的人

The sheer amount of money that foreigners, AIPAC, and corrupt billionaires are spending against these guys is all the proof anyone should need to vote for them

外国人、美以公共事务委员会（AIPAC）和腐败的亿万富翁们砸在这些家伙身上的钱多到什么程度，本身就足够成为投票给他们的全部理由

>>1535500

Why? Are you seriously a fag?

为什么？你该不会真是个基佬吧？

OML. Imagine being a fag in 2026. Are you a fucking boomer there, gayboy.

我的天。2026年还当基佬。你是从婴儿潮时代穿越来的吧，基佬崽。

LMFAO.

>>1535512

>anyone genuinely looking to improve America

>所有真心想改善美国的人

B

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>The sheer amount of money that foreigners

>外国人、AIPAC和腐败的亿万富翁们砸的钱

Mamdani only became a citizen in 2018.

马姆达尼2018年才拿到国籍。

it's funny how gay and self hating esl shill is

笑死，这个ESL狗托又同性恋又恨自己，可真够拧巴的

>>1535512

>Improving America means King John tactics.

>改善美国=约翰王那一套手段。

See this is why I think communism is probably a parasite, or fungus related health emergency.

瞧见没，所以我觉得共产主义八成是一种寄生虫或真菌引起的公共卫生紧急事件。

Never once has communism done anything to improve a country quite the contrary (unless you include National Socialism which worked extremely well).

共产主义从来没让任何一个国家变好过，恰恰相反（除非你把国家社会主义（National Socialism）也算上，那玩意儿倒是效果拔群）。

Despite the absolutely missive pile of evidence that socialism/communism is completely destructive they still exist.

尽管社会主义/共产主义纯粹具有毁灭性的证据堆成了山，它们居然还存在。

Further they're demented enough to believe that they are helping people.

更绝的是，他们还痴痴呆呆地相信自己是在帮助别人。

It's gotta be mold of some kind.

肯定是某种霉菌搞的鬼。

>>1535509

He already had a history of stepping in front of vehicles in a way that no smart person would. If he quit then they might stop protecting him.

他早就有冲到车前面、用聪明人绝不会有的方式挡车的黑历史。他要是辞职了，人家可能就不再保他了。

>>1535520

>stepping in front of

>冲到车前面挡车

He put his hand in the cab of a vehicle and was dragged 100 yards by a spooked brownoid.

他把手伸进了一辆车驾驶室，然后被一个受惊的棕色佬拖着跑了100码。

>>1535519

vance literally said he wouldn't mind if his policies lead to the end of the world just the other day

万斯（Vance）前几天亲口说，就算他的政策把世界带向末日他也无所谓

>>1535522

CONTEXT LIGGERAL SCUM!

DO YOU SPEAK IT?

>>1535525

good esl shill impression

ESL狗托模仿得很到位

>>1535520

>Still seething

>还在破防

lol he killed that fucking bitch that killed her husband and ran off with the ugly dyke to Canada.

哈哈他干掉那个贱货可真是大快人心，那婆娘谋杀亲夫后跟那个丑拉拉跑加拿大去了。

The biggest mistake they ever made was realizing Canada is shit (which is obvious even to most Canadians).

他们犯过的最大错误，是发现加拿大是个屎坑（这一点连大多数加拿大人自己都心知肚明）。

>>1535521

That's not even what I was talking about. His history with the front end of vehicles he had no business being in front of is extensive.

我说的根本不是那件事。他在车头前站过的黑历史可太多了，那些车他压根就不该站在前面。

>>1535311

>Pretti was brandishing his weapon

>普雷蒂当时在挥舞武器

How was he doing that? He was unarmed when they executed him:

他怎么挥舞？他们处决他的时候他手无寸铁：

https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/29/us/immigration-agents-shooting-alex-pretti-invs

>>1535529

To be fair, he was a feral gayboy in his 40s. His anus prolapsed and lacking in elasticity, it was time to put him down.

公平地说，他就是个四十多岁的野基佬。肛脱了、也没弹性了，是时候给他个了断了。

>>1535532

40 is nearly eol for a gay man. It was definitely too late for him to find another gay man to adopt a boy to rape with.

对男同来说40岁差不多就是寿命尽头了。再找一个男同收养个男孩来猥亵，对他来说肯定太晚了。

I guess that's why he was playing the role of cat-mom to illegals.

我猜这就是他为什么给非法移民当猫妈妈的原因。

>>1535516

>>1535534

Do you think he could've become. Priest and raped alterboys? Or do you think the Catholics figured out that gay scam?

你觉得他有没有可能去当神父然后猥亵辅祭男孩？还是你觉得天主教会早就识破了这种基佬把戏？

1535490

>b-b-but you mustn't say that about my precious Charlie Kirk!

>不——不——不许你们这样说我宝贝查理·柯克！

1535496

>fags are not people

>基佬不算人

>o-o-only I can dehumanize anyone not exactly like me! And those who I don't consider to be human can be eliminated by ICE!

>只——只——许我一个人非人化跟我长得不一样的人！而且那些我不当人看的，ICE可以随便清理！

The duality of the hypocrite.

伪君子的双重性。

And until you stop thinking the way you do, that with similarly wrong opinions deserves only ridicule as per the OP's article, and you're nothing more than a whiny woke right SJW snowflake. Reality says 'Fuck your feelings'.

而且只要你还抱着你那套想法——认为观点跟你差不多错的人只配被嘲笑，就像主帖那篇文章说的那样——你就不过是个哭哭啼啼的觉醒右翼SJW雪花。现实对你说“去你的感受”。

And if the likes of you had any kind of political power, you would more than just deny those not exactly like you of the right to freedom of speech, but deny them of the right to exist, You are an anti-'Other' enemy of Humanity, and everything it stands for. You would eliminate anyone not exactly like you for the crime of existing if you had your way

要是你们这号人真握有政治权力，你们不光会剥夺跟你不一样的人的言论自由，还会剥夺他们生存的权利。你就是反“异类”的人类公敌，跟人类及其代表的一切为敌。只要得逞，你会以“活着”为罪名清除所有跟你不一样的人

>1535496 disagreeing with >>1535491, reduced to dehumanizing those not exactly like it

>1535496反驳>>1535491的方式，是把异见者非人化

The duality of the hypocrite.

伪君子的双重性。

>fags are not people

>基佬不算人

1535490

>Advocating for the death of people with contrary political opinions to yours isn't only suicidal, it's literally against the spirit of Democratic debate as a national principle

>鼓吹让政治观点和你相左的人去死，不光是自杀行为，更是彻底背离了民主辩论作为国家原则的精神

QED.

Can't take it, you never had the right to dish it out in the first place.

受不了？你一开始就没资格先动手骂人。

>>153555

I'm not the anon attempting to persuade you that you're a horrible person using k-urk.

我可不是那个想用“柯克氏话术”证明你是个烂人的老哥。

I'm the anon that knows gays are essentially Jewish and should be deported to Haiti to be fed to browns.

我是那个明白同性恋本质上就是犹太人、该被流放到海地喂棕色佬的老哥。

1535556 is the hypocritical projecting anon proving itself to be worse that anyone else it claims is 'horrible'

1535556就是那个虚伪、疯狂投射的老哥，证明了自己比他口中所有“烂人”都烂

1535556 is the anon that everyone else in /news/ knows that miggers aren't human, or 1535556 wouldn't so much as think the way it does. Normal sane humans don't.

/news/版每个老哥都知道MAGA仔不算人，不然1535556也不至于那么想问题。正常健康的人类不会那样。

If 1535556 can't take a bit of dehumanization, it never had the right to dish it out in the first place.

要是1535556连一点非人化都受不了，那它一开始就没资格先动手。

>>1535563

You syphilis is showing. Didn't you know, gayboy?

你的梅毒露馅了。你不知道吗，基佬崽？

>>1535553

>b-b-but you mustn't say that about my precious Charlie Kirk!

>不——不——不许你们这样说我宝贝查理·柯克！

You don't get to complain about preserving democracy, free speech, habeas corpus etc. if you're willing to advocate for political assassinations.

你要是乐意鼓吹政治暗杀，就没资格再抱怨什么捍卫民主、言论自由、人身保护令之类的。

So yeah, say whatever you want, idiot. You're only convincing conservatives to drop any and all pretense of treating you like a human being.

所以随你怎么说吧，白痴。你只会让保守派彻底撕下“把你当人看”的遮羞布。

>>1535590

But enough about conservatives just doing all that and making excuses to further justify them.

不过说到保守派——他们本来就已经全都在这么干了，还在找借口进一步给自己开脱。

>>1535590

>You're only convincing conservatives to drop any and all pretense of treating you like a human being.

>你只会让保守派彻底撕下“把你当人看”的遮羞布。

This pretends they did so beforehand. You really are just that soyjack of the nazi dropping his nazi mask to reveal the exact same nazi face because "no more mr nice guy".

这话假装他们以前没撕。你可真是那个 soyjack 梗图里的纳粹，撕下纳粹面具，露出的是一模一样的纳粹脸，因为“不再当好好先生了”。

>>1535590

go back to being a repressed gay, that's funnier

你还是回去当压抑的同性恋吧，那样更好笑

>>1535592

>This pretends they did so beforehand.

>这话假装他们以前没撕。

Well, we were trying and then y'all shot the guy leading the effort and mocked him and his widow afterwards.

行吧，我们本来是在尝试的，然后你们把带头的那人枪杀了，事后还嘲笑他和他遗孀。

>>1535594

>guys Kirk was actually le ambassador

>兄弟们柯克其实是大使级别的人物

Kirk was a youtube clip farmer and nothing else. To call his debates universally in bad faith is an understatement.

柯克就是个收割短视频素材的，仅此而已。说他那些辩论全都不怀好意都算轻描淡写。

>>1535593

>Gayboy can't believe that someone would find it repulsive.

>基佬崽无法相信有人会觉得恶心。

Well it's 2026 and the data exists.

都2026年了，数据明摆着呢。

Your coping doesn't change the fact that you're entire existence smells like piss

你随便自我安慰吧，反正你整个存在都一股尿骚味

Cope however you like

随便你怎么自我安慰

>>1535598

>Kirk was a youtube clip farmer and nothing else. To call his debates universally in bad faith is an understatement.

>柯克就是个收割短视频素材的，仅此而已。说他那些辩论全都不怀好意都算轻描淡写。

The bad faith debates where literally anyone could come up and argue?

那种谁都能上台辩两句的“不怀好意辩论”？

I understand that its deeply upsetting that a dweeb like Kirk could just sit there and dismantle your shit for hours on end. But you must accept the fact that it was an open mic, anyone could engage, or not engage, and y'all shot him for it. And then mocked him. And then mocked his widow.

我理解，柯克这么个书呆子能坐在那里连轴转拆你几个小时的台，让你痛不欲生。但你必须接受事实：那是开放麦，谁都能上，也都能不上，而你们就为这个把他枪杀了。然后嘲笑他。然后嘲笑他遗孀。

This is the path you guys chose. Enjoy.

这是你们自己选的路。好自为之。

>>1535602

>you shot him

>你们把他枪杀了

we're not mormons

我们可不是摩门教徒

1535586

>You syphilis

>你的梅毒

>You

>inb4 "grammar nazi", "context" etc

>先声明“语法警察”、“看语境”之类的

Syphilis causes projection, as well as being an esl shill, hypocrisy, and proving itself wrong

梅毒会导致投射行为，还会让人变成ESL狗托、虚伪、以及不断自证其错

>Advocating for the death of people with contrary political opinions to yours isn't only suicidal, it's literally against the spirit of Democratic debate as a national principle

>鼓吹让政治观点和你相左的人去死，不光是自杀行为，更是彻底背离了民主辩论作为国家原则的精神

>fags are not people

>基佬不算人

>gays are essentially Jewish and should be deported to Haiti to be fed to browns.

>同性恋本质上就是犹太人，该被流放到海地喂棕色佬。

Especially when called out on such, and can't refute what others prove about it, thus is reduced to being a closet case. Your own homosexuality is showing at a cinema which projects in such a way it makes IMAX obsolete, 1535586.

尤其是被人指出这一点时，它反驳不了别人证明的事实，只好缩回柜子里。你自己的同性恋倾向正在一块比IMAX还震撼的巨幕上放映呢，1535586。

>>1535598

This, as the article points out he did nothing to further or better society, just show off his Gish Gallop skills.

没错，正如文章所说，他没为社会进步做过任何贡献，只会秀他那套“吉氏虚张声势”（Gish Gallop）连珠炮话术。

>>1535604

Also the alleged gunman was a conservative too. So his death was right on right violence.

另外那个枪手据说也是保守派。所以他的死是右派打右派。

>>1535602

>The bad faith debates where literally anyone could come up and argue?

>那种谁都能上台辩两句的“不怀好意辩论”？

You don't seem to understand what a bad faith debate is. Ironically despite advertising "change my view" at no point did Kirk ever intend to actually do so.

你好像不懂什么叫不怀好意的辩论。讽刺的是，柯克虽然天天喊“改变我的观点”，却从没打算真被改变。

>And then mocked him. And then mocked his widow.

>然后嘲笑他。然后嘲笑他遗孀。

Actually the widow did a pretty good job at that with the sparklers at his funeral along with the fake tears as she took over his whole empire.

其实遗孀自己干得挺到位的：葬礼上挥着仙女棒、挤着假眼泪，顺手把他整个商业帝国都接盘了。

>>1535613

Jeez you're obsessed. Who even watched it?

天呐你可真执着。谁看那玩意儿？

>Liggerals

You people are nuts

你们这帮人真是有病

>>1535608

>>he did nothing to further or better society

>>他对社会进步没做过任何贡献

>Noooo! Free and open debate isnt bettering society because you win too much!

>不——！自由公开的辩论不算造福社会，因为你赢得太多了！

>Also the alleged gunman was a conservative

>另外那个枪手也是保守派

Bait.

>>1535613

>Ironically despite advertising "change my view" at no point did Kirk ever intend to actually do so.

>讽刺的是，柯克虽然天天喊“改变我的观点”，却从没打算真被改变。

Because no one was ever able to make a compelling argument?

因为从来没人能拿出有说服力的论点？

> a pretty good job at that with the sparklers at his funeral along with the fake tears as she took over his whole empire.

>葬礼上挥着仙女棒、挤着假眼泪，顺手把他整个商业帝国都接盘了。

There you go, slandering a widow again. Nice.

瞧，又开始诽谤遗孀了。真棒。

you know esl shill is losing when he starts spamming multiple posts in a row

你知道ESL狗托开始连续刷屏发帖的时候，就是他快输的时候

>>1535613

Aha so he was debating like a little commie faggot?

哦，所以他辩论起来像个小共产党基佬？

Or was it more like he was more educated on subjects than college liggerals?

还是说其实只是他比大学里的自由派（liggeral）们更懂这些话题？

1535590

You don't get to complain about being a repressed homo. if you're willing to project your homosexuality on others. Accusations are Admissions

你都没资格抱怨自己是压抑的同性恋，因为你自己先把同性恋投射到别人身上。指控即供认

>b-b-but you mustn't say that about my precious Charlie Kirk!

>不——不——不许你们这样说我宝贝查理·柯克！

Seethe all you want, idiot. You're only convincing everyone else in /news/ that you're nothing more than a whiny woke right SJW snowflake.

随便你破防，白痴。你只会让/news/版的其他人确信你不过是个哭哭啼啼的觉醒右翼SJW雪花。

>Advocating for the death of people with contrary political opinions to yours isn't only suicidal, it's literally against the spirit of Democratic debate as a national principle

>鼓吹让政治观点和你相左的人去死，不光是自杀行为，更是彻底背离了民主辩论作为国家原则的精神

>fags are not people

>基佬不算人

>gays are essentially Jewish and should be deported to Haiti to be fed to browns.

>同性恋本质上就是犹太人，该被流放到海地喂棕色佬。

You've already dropped any and all pretense of being human with your hypocrisy.

你那套虚伪早就把“你还是个人”的伪装扒得干干净净了。

>>1535619

>There you go, slandering a widow again. Nice.

>瞧，又开始诽谤遗孀了。真棒。

How is it slander? You know she got caught on camera putting fake tears in, multiple times right? And she certainly didn't hide how excited she was to take over TPUSA.

这怎么算诽谤？她被拍到好几次当场滴假眼泪，这你总知道吧？而且她接管 Turning Point USA（TPUSA）时那股兴奋劲儿可是一点没藏着。

>he was more educated

>他更有学问

>Charlie Kirk was destroyed by the Cambridge Debating Society

>查理·柯克被剑桥辩论社（Cambridge Debating Society）干碎了

Charlie ultimately lost the gun debate. But at least he finally leaned to the left.

查理最终还是输掉了枪支辩论。不过至少他最后总算向左倾了一下。

>>1535626

I pretty sure he won that debate. Guns are still legal.

我相当确定那场辩论是他赢了。枪不还是合法的嘛。

>>1535618

Debate on what?

跟什么辩论？

>Kirk lost a debate against a small piece of lead

>柯克输给了一小块铅弹

>twice-elected Governator of California Arnold Schwarzenegger is pro-gun control

>两度当选加州州长（Governator）的阿诺·施瓦辛格（Arnold Schwarzenegger）支持控枪

I wonder why nobody has tried to shoot that Republican?

奇怪，怎么没人去枪击那位共和党人？

>>1535618

It's not bait if it's true.

是真的就不算钓鱼。

The gunman was a nicky follower, which explains why he went radio silent instead of celebrating.

枪手是尼克派（nicky）的追随者，这解释了他为什么事后一声不吭而不是庆祝。

>>1535619

Actually if you can get through all his bad faith fallacy, he'll still ignore the point.

其实就算你顶住了他那一堆不怀好意的谬误，他还是会无视你的论点。

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9O7y50cNb7c

Funnily enough Youtube shadowbanned this video where if you look up the cambridge debate, it's all front loaded with pro kirk propaganda now.

好笑的是，YouTube把这段视频限流了，现在你去搜剑桥辩论，前排全是挺柯克的宣传。

>>1535403

What the fuck do you think an initiation is, retard?

你以为入门仪式是什么，智障？

>>1535592

>This pretends they did so beforehand.

>这话假装他们以前没撕。

Conservatives spent decades gatekeeping the far right because they suck zionist dick. That included pretending to be civil in the face of dysgenic mulatto feminists screaming at them that nobody is illegal on stolen land because America is a white colonial state.

保守派 Gatekeep 极右翼 Gatekeep 了几十年，因为他们跪舔犹太复国主义。其中包括在那些退化混血女权主义者冲他们尖叫“没有人是非法的，因为美国本来就是白人殖民国家”时装出一副斯文样子。

Is being called a nazi worse than being executed in front of your kids? Obviously not. So the obvious path forward is to vote for whichever candidate offers us the opportunity to implement mass expulsions.

被叫纳粹比当着孩子的面被处决更惨吗？显然不是。所以明路很清楚：投票给任何一个让我们有机会搞大规模驱逐的候选人。

>>1535127

>MAGA conservatives expected Kirk’s death to be a kind of Reichstag fire that would galvanize and consolidate the right to move against the supposed threat of an organized

>MAGA保守派原本指望柯克之死成为一场“国会纵火案”，能激励和整合右翼，向所谓的有组织的威胁发起行动

>muh nazisss reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

>啊啊啊纳粹要来了呜呜呜呜呜呜

in reality, America First ended up as more of a dumpster fire

现实中，“美国优先”（America First）最后更像一场垃圾桶大火

>>1535619

>No one was ever able to make a compelling argument.

>从来没人能拿出有说服力的论点。

>I'm not smart enough to understand that if someone has full editorial control and nobody ever makes a good point against them, that's not a point in their favor.

>我理解不了：如果一个人手握完全的剪辑权，而且从来没人能在他面前说出好论点，那这并不能给他加分。

>Directly exposing my lie of omission that it was an open mic where anyone could engage; because of course you could go up and make him look like the moron he was, and of course he wouldn't post that.

>直接戳穿了我“那是开放麦、谁都能上”这句话里故意漏掉的谎；因为当然谁都可以上去让他显得跟他本人一样蠢，当然他不会把那种视频发出来。

Your worldview falls apart under the slightest scrutiny. Fuck your pearl clutching, you psychopathic faggots only experience grief in the form of political currency.

你的世界观经不起最轻微的推敲。收起你那套捂胸口的戏码吧，你们这些反社会基佬只有在把悲伤换算成政治筹码时才会感到悲伤。

>martyr

no one consider him that. He is a cuck who appeals only to incels and other cucks. He believed that gun deaths were a necessary art of freedom, and died doing what he believed. His widow "celebrated" with JD Vance the very next day.

没人把他当那号人物。他就是个只能吸引钢铁直男单身狗和其他绿毛龟的绿毛龟。他相信枪击死亡是自由的必要代价，然后就死在了自己的信仰上。他遗孀第二天就和JD·万斯一起“庆祝”去了。

>>1535176

I really do hope more racist bigots and christian supremacists take over. Sincerely. It'd be 100x better than the faggot shit show we have nowadays. Hell, I'd take Pol Pot any day over NPC cattle trying to pretend they have a soul

我真希望更多的种族主义 bigot 和基督至上主义者上台。真心话。总比现在这坨基佬狗屎秀强一百倍。妈的，宁可要波尔布特（Pol Pot），也不要装得自己有灵魂的提线木偶（NPC）牛马

>>1535346

>Wild, they don't have any actual examples of leftists being violent.

>离谱，他们拿不出任何左派暴力的实际例子。

thanks for the kek and here's your (You)

谢谢你的哈哈，这是你的回复标记(You)

>>1535128

I thought the first rule of the internet was

我以为互联网第一条铁律是

>don't talk about /b/

>不要谈论 /b/ 版

>>1535128

>Conservatives still, in the year 2026, deploy their “no angels” line to defend the police killings of George Floyd — who, they claim, was killed by a fentanyl overdose — and Trayvon Martin, who they argue shouldn’t have been in that neighborhood in the first place.

>到了2026年，保守派还在用“他也不是什么好人”那一套为警察击毙乔治·弗洛伊德（George Floyd）辩护——他们坚称弗洛伊德死于芬太尼过量——还有特雷沃恩·马丁（Trayvon Martin），他们的说法是他压根就不该出现在那个社区。

>Sir, you're under arrest

>先生，你被逮捕了

>I CAINT BREEVE!!!

>Call ambulance

>叫救护车

>Blue city so ambulances take a year to arrive because they spent all the money teaching school children how to pleasure gay men

>蓝城市救护车要一年才到，因为钱全拿去教小学生怎么给男同性恋口活了

>Continues resisting arrest driven by a mixture of fent, covid, and other drugs.

>在芬太尼、新冠和其他药物的混合作用下继续拒捕。

>Heart explodes while being detained

>被拘押时心脏爆炸

Yeah Chauvin killed him. It wasn't an election year ploy.

对，肖万就是杀了他。这不是选举年的政治把戏。

And the best part is, now all the cops wear bodycams thus disproving the forever platform of Democrats that cops are racist and evil.

最妙的是，现在所有警察都戴执法记录仪了，直接把民主党“警察又种族主义又邪恶”的百年党纲给证伪了。

So focus shifts to ICE, which is largely a Hispanic group.

于是矛头转向了ICE，而ICE大部分成员是西裔。

>>1535961

Oh and the framing. Chauvin showed up with every race of cop on the planet. Black cop, Asian cops, and a Hispanic. All because an Arab or poostink called the police overf his $20 groid forgery.

还有那个话术框架。肖万到场时全世界人种的警察都齐了：黑人警察、亚裔警察，还有一个西裔。全因为一个阿拉伯佬或者阿三（poostink）为了20美元的黑鬼假钞报警。

Liggeralism was a mistake.

自由派主义（Liggeralism）是个错误。

>>1535961

>>1535962

And lets not forget SLPC funding racism because there's simply not enough racism for Dems to gain control of the US.

还有别忘了“南方贫困法律中心”（SLPC/SPLC）专门资助种族主义，因为现有的种族主义根本不够民主党夺取美国政权用。

>>1535961

Okay so George Floyd put the gun against the belly of a pregnant woman and was a repeat felon. Trayvon Martin was smashing the head of George Zimmerman into the concrete before getting shot.

行，乔治·弗洛伊德拿枪顶过一个孕妇的肚子，还是惯犯重罪。特雷沃恩·马丁开枪前正把乔治·齐默尔曼（George Zimmerman）的脑袋往水泥地上砸。

Who did Charlie Kirk assail? Who is Charlie Kirk's victim?

查理·柯克袭击过谁？查理·柯克的受害者是谁？

>>1535963

Foids accusing hispanic ICE agents of being race traitors was fucking gold.

女拳们骂西裔ICE探员是种族叛徒那段，真是笑到头掉。

>>1535500

>>1535492

People like you is why people will side with ICE from now on, you're such vile people and the only ones likely to purge you from the world will be the heroes america need.

就是因为有你这种人，以后大家才会站到ICE那边。你们太恶心了，能把你们从这世上清理掉的，只有美国需要的那些英雄。

Kirk post-death opened the floodgates before it was mostly leftists going you should punch your acquaintances who voted republican or let them die. Now post kirk I'm willing to openly say I hope you fucking go the way of alex pratti and die like the terrorist you are. If you're on the news as the next ICE victim and you have an online record of being a democratic piece of shit enjoy people mocking you like they did that privileged democrat cunt who got stabbed at thankgiving.

柯克死之前，主流声音还只是左派喊你该揍你那些投共和党的熟人、或者见死不救。柯克死后，我愿意公开说了：我他妈希望你跟亚历克斯·普拉蒂（Alex Pratti）一个下场，像你这种恐怖分子一样死掉。要是你成了新闻里下一个ICE受害者、而你网上还留着民主党垃圾言论记录，那祝你享受全民嘲讽，就像大家嘲讽那个感恩节被捅的特权民主党贱货一样。

>>1535128

first you defended the hostage taker, then you defended the drughead now you're defending the babykillers.

先替劫持人质的辩护，再替吸毒的辩护，现在又替杀婴儿的辩护。

does it ever end with you leftist cunts.

你们这些左派贱货有没有完。

if you died and people ever found out you made a kirk death joke, enjoy the harassment wave that will come to your family and don't expect a blip of sympathy

要是你死了，别人又翻出你开过柯克死亡的玩笑，那祝你全家享受猎巫浪潮，别指望有半点同情

>>1536006

You know the author signed the article? They aren't hiding.

你注意到作者是实名署名的吧？他们没躲。

Go harass them and their family

去骚扰他们和他们全家啊

>>1536042

why would i care about the author?

我为什么要在乎作者？

the author's just trying to make his payroll by getting retards to click on it. The real people to laugh and wish death on are the leftist scum in this comment section

作者不过是想骗傻子上钩点进去换工资罢了。真正该被嘲笑、被咒死的，是这篇评论区里的左派渣滓

>>1536046

your mother wants you to get a real job

你妈希望你去找份正经工作

'The only way to combat ridiculous propositions is through mockery'

“对付荒谬论调的唯一办法就是嘲讽”

The above quote by an actual American is why you'll never be an American, 1536004.

上面这句出自一个真正的美国人，这就是你永远成不了美国人的原因，1536004。

It’s been a year and I’m still waiting for that “sleeping lion” we supposedly awoke. Where’s that civil war and random violence in the streets we were promised?

都一年了，我还在等那头据说被我们吵醒的“睡狮”。说好的内战呢？说好的街头随机暴力呢？

>ChArLiE wAs ThE mOdErAtE! wE tRiEd TaLkInG! WaTcH oUt LiBeRULS!

>>1535126

The fuck are you talking about? Who is even remotely watchable besides Nick?

你在说什么鬼？除了尼克（Nick），还有谁值得一看？

>>1535129

Dolly Parton wasn't a political commentator though. We don't need "charities", we need culture warriors. The only reason you're saying this shit is because she died. It's like Prince, Bowie and Leia all over again except even more retarded.

多莉·帕顿（Dolly Parton）又不是政治评论员。我们不需要“慈善机构”，我们需要文化战士。你说这种话的唯一原因就是她刚死。又是王子（Prince）、鲍伊（Bowie）和莱娅公主（Leia）那一套，只是这次蠢得更加离谱。

>>1536195

I mean, she didn't go to college campuses and challenge ignorant, opinionated freshmen to debates she then cut up to make herself look good, no, but she was a very public figure, and she treated people well, even if they were different than she was.

嗯，她确实没去大学校园跟无知的杠精新生搞辩论再剪出个自己大获全胜的片段，这倒是真的。但她是个很有公众影响力的人物，而且待人厚道，哪怕对方跟她不一样。

So what is a 'culture warrior?' Someone who presents a one-sided narrative as propaganda? What do they actually contribute to society apart from misguided dipshits? No you fucking idiot, we need way, way less of that, we need people who aren't so retarded they fall for shit like that, and we need people who lead by example, by say establishing a charity for a cause they believe in and actually having an impact on the world. If some faggot has to beat you over the head to tell you they're a leader and they have a better way, you're probably being conned you fucking simpleton.

那“文化战士”是什么？把单方面叙事当宣传来兜售的人？除了误导傻子，他们对社会还有什么实际贡献？不，你他妈蠢货，这种东西我们要少得多得多才行。我们需要的是不那么蠢、不会上这种当的人，需要的是以身作则的人——比如为自己信的事业建个慈善机构、真正对世界产生点影响。要是有个基佬非得拿大棒敲你脑袋、告诉你“我是领袖，我有个更好的路子”，那你八成是被骗了，你个憨憨。

>>1536190

Conservatives are still patiently waiting for Trump to deal a deathblow to leftist movements in America.

保守派还在耐心等待特朗普给美国左翼运动致命一击。