Zohran "King John" Mamdani Terrorism Denied.

Mamdani forced to pause pied-à-terre tax roll-out — and pull down ‘shame the rich’ list in win for NYC homeowners

马姆达尼被迫暂停临时住所税的推出，并取消“羞辱富人”名单，为纽约房主赢得胜利

https://nypost.com/2026/08/10/us-news/ny-judge-approves-temporary-pause-of-mamdanis-pied-a-terre-tax-rollout/

The reign of pied-à-terror is on pause.

恐怖活动的统治已经暂停。

Big Apple homeowners fighting the controversial pied-à-terre tax notched an early victory Monday, when a judge stunningly blocked Mayor Zohran Mamdani’s tortured rollout of the new levy.

周一，纽约市的房主们在对抗颇具争议的临时住所税方面取得了初步胜利，一名法官令人震惊地阻止了市长佐兰·马姆达尼 (Zohran Mamdani) 痛苦地推出新税项。

Staten Island Supreme Court Justice Wayne Ozzi issued the temporary restraining order, effectively putting the luxury second-home tax on ice until at least an Aug. 31 court hearing about the peeved property owners’ lawsuit.

史坦顿岛最高法院法官韦恩·奥齐 (Wayne Ozzi) 发布了临时限制令，有效地冻结了豪华二手房税，直到至少 8 月 31 日法庭就愤怒的业主诉讼举行听证会。

The judge barred the city from taking any further action on the 17,000 notices sent by the Department of Finance to homeowners, which declared they could face a five-figure tax bill unless they requested an exemption.

法官禁止市政府对财政部向房主发出的 17,000 份通知采取任何进一步行动，这些通知宣称，除非他们请求豁免，否则他们可能面临五位数的税单。

Mamdani quickly promised to fight the ruling, and attempt to get the restraining order lifted and his socialist “tax the rich” policy rolling again.

马姆达尼很快承诺反对这一裁决，并试图解除限制令，并再次推行他的社会主义“向富人征税”政策。

“We disagree with today’s ruling, but we are confident in both the pied-à-terre surcharge and the City’s ability to implement it fairly and effectively,” said Matt Rauschenbach, a spokesman for the mayor.

市长发言人马特·劳申巴赫 (Matt Rauschenbach) 表示：“我们不同意今天的裁决，但我们对临时住所附加费以及市政府公平有效地实施该附加费的能力充满信心。”

“This surcharge asks those who own second homes valued at $5 million or more to contribute their fair share to the city they benefit from,” Rauschenbach said, claiming “The Law Department will appeal the ruling immediately which will stay the order, and the City will continue with the pied-a-terre’s implementation.”

劳申巴赫说：“这项附加费要求那些拥有价值 500 万美元或以上第二套住房的人向他们受益的城市贡献自己的公平份额。”他声称，“法律部将立即对裁决提出上诉，这将维持秩序，市政府将继续实施临时住所。”

The tax – as outlined in the law approved by state lawmakers and Gov. Kathy Hochul in the spring – applies to one- to three-family homes worth at least $5 million and co-ops and condominiums valued at $1 million or more that are unoccupied, non-primary residences.

正如州议员和州长 Kathy Hochul 在春季批准的法律所述，该税适用于价值至少 500 万美元的一到三户住宅，以及价值 100 万美元或以上且无人居住的非主要住宅的合作公寓和公寓。

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The bombshell order added another twist in an already convoluted saga — and came just hours after Hochul called on Mamdani to “streamline” the bungled pied-à-terre tax rollout.

这项爆炸性命令给本已错综复杂的传奇故事增添了另一个曲折——就在霍赫尔呼吁马姆达尼“简化”笨拙的临时住所税收推出几个小时后。

“We’re not responsible for the rollout,” Hochul said to reporters during an unrelated event in The Bronx. “This is something that we talked to the city about in advance. It’s up to their city tax department.

“我们不负责推出，”霍赫尔在布朗克斯举行的一次不相关的活动中对记者说。 “这是我们提前与市政府讨论过的事情。这取决于他们的市税务部门。

“We’ll encourage City Hall to try and streamline this.”

“我们将鼓励市政厅尝试简化这一过程。”

The stammering attempt by Hochul — who championed the tax on luxury second homes as a way to make “Russian oligarchs” and “Saudi princes” pay their fair share — to wash her hands of responsibility comes after Mamdani’s administration repeatedly botched unveiling the levy.

霍楚尔主张对第二套豪华住宅征税，认为这是让“俄罗斯寡头”和“沙特王子”缴纳公平份额的一种方式。在马姆达尼政府屡屡搞砸这项征税之后，她结结巴巴地试图逃避自己的责任。

City officials first published a database of more than 900,000 homeowners who could be hit by the tax after Mamdani put wealthy residents on notice to “check your mailbox when you’re back in the five boroughs, because you’ve got mail.”

在马姆达尼通知富裕居民“回到五个行政区时检查邮箱，因为你有邮件”后，市政府官员首先公布了超过 90 万可能受到税收打击的房主的数据库。

The list confused many homeowners, especially the vast majority of properties seemed to be outside the tax’s scope of unoccupied, non-primary residences.

这份清单让许多房主感到困惑，尤其是绝大多数房产似乎不属于无人居住、非主要住宅的税收范围。

The city then sent out 17,000 notices to homeowners, warning them they’d actually be hit with the tax unless they filed for an exemption.

随后，该市向房主发出了 17,000 份通知，警告他们，除非申请豁免，否则实际上会受到税收打击。

The mess prompted a trio of homeowners to sue, contending they either erroneously received notices for their longtime primary residences or were on the published tax roll.

这一混乱局面促使三名房主提起诉讼，称他们要么错误地收到了长期主要住所的通知，要么出现在公布的纳税名单上。

The lawsuit filed Friday argued that Mamdani’s tax rollout “caused mass confusion,” because city officials ignored the plethora of state data that the new law specifically granted them to make a thorough assessment of who could be eligible.

周五提起的诉讼称，马姆达尼的税收推出“造成了大规模混乱”，因为市政府官员忽视了新法律特别授权他们对谁有资格进行全面评估的大量国家数据。

Instead, city officials unfairly foisted that burden onto longtime New Yorkers, many of whom scrambled to prove their bona-fides by an initially-set one-month deadline, the suit said.

诉讼称，相反，市政府官员不公平地将这一负担强加给长期居住的纽约人，其中许多人争先恐后地在最初设定的一个月期限内证明自己的诚意。

>>1528919

InB4 "esl" and "Muh NY Post!"

InB4“esl”和“Muh NY Post!”

>AI slop shill knows NY post is fake news and will spam it anyway.

>AI slop shill 知道纽约的帖子是假新闻，无论如何都会发送垃圾邮件。

A reminder for everyone else that the NY post is fake news and not creditable news site that shouldn't be allowed on /news/ because they were caught smearing Mamdani over 9/11 and instead of retracting the story and apologizing for their false reporting, they are now doubling down.

提醒其他所有人，纽约的帖子是假新闻，不是值得信赖的新闻网站，不应该被允许出现在 /news/ 上，因为他们被发现在 9/11 事件中抹黑 Mamdani，他们现在没有撤回报道并为他们的虚假报道道歉，而是加倍努力。

https://hiphopwired.com/3061256/ny-post-dragged-for-alleged-mamdani-9-11-story/

And the corporate media is running a cover up for them as well too.

企业媒体也在帮他们打掩护。

https://popular.info/p/update-after-the-mamdani-911-smear

It has also failed multiple other fact checks as well.

它还未能通过其他多项事实核查。

>>1528935

Oh no! How was their reporting about Russiagate?

哦不！他们对“通俄门”的报道怎么样？

It's sad that a "tabloid" is more truthful than "trusted" news sources.

可悲的是，“小报”比“可信”的新闻来源更真实。

And speaking of, I've never heard of any of these sources you've used.

说到这里，我从未听说过您使用过的任何这些来源。

>>1528969

>How was their reporting about Russiagate?

>他们对“通俄门”的报道怎么样？

Bad, they got caught posting without verifying their sources several time. Also that was like 6-7 years ago and right now they keep getting caught actively lying about stories.

糟糕的是，他们多次被抓到在没有核实消息来源的情况下发帖。而且那是六七年前的事了，现在他们不断被发现在故事中积极撒谎。

>>1528983

Who? NY Post or the media outlets that reported on it in such a bizarre way almost know one knows it was about ads on social media?

WHO？ 《纽约邮报》或以如此奇怪的方式报道此事的媒体机构几乎知道人们知道这是关于社交媒体上的广告？

Most news sources never report their sources in the case of Russiagate ( everyone now knows it was mostly that fuckwit creepy looking Dem, Adam Schiff) the claims were so far off base, their credibility is severely damaged.

大多数新闻来源从未报道过“通俄门”事件的消息来源（现在每个人都知道，这主要是那个看上去傻乎乎、令人毛骨悚然的民主党人亚当·希夫），这些说法根本没有根据，他们的可信度受到严重损害。

>>1528919

Dems disproved taxing the rich in 2025 with their opposition to tariffs. Did Mamdani not get the message that the taxes will be passed to consumers?

民主党反对关税，反对在 2025 年对富人征税。难道马姆达尼没有得到税收将转嫁给消费者的消息吗？

Moron Mamdani

莫龙·马姆达尼

get it?

得到它？

Zoran = Moron...

佐兰=白痴...

and Sam Seder thought I was dum

Sam Seder 认为我很蠢

>>1528935

amazing how you swooped in to derail the thread thereby preventing discussion on the topic.

令人惊讶的是你突然介入破坏了话题，从而阻止了对该主题的讨论。

>>1528999

Yeah they're not the same. Key difference: every fucking business, big or small, had to pay the tariff tax. That wasn't taxing the rich, that was taxing everyone.

是的，他们不一样。主要区别：每个该死的企业，无论大小，都必须缴纳关税。这不是对富人征税，而是对所有人征税。

>>1529021

Yes, just like taxing "the rich".

是的，就像对“富人”征税一样。

Are we going to have this exact same conversation again?

我们会再次进行完全相同的对话吗？

>>1529035

If you can't see the difference between

如果您看不出两者之间的区别

>Jeff Bezos himself has to pay more taxes

>杰夫·贝索斯本人必须缴纳更多税款

and

>Both Amazon and the Mom-Pop Store down the street have to pay the same additional sum for the same imports

>亚马逊和街边的妈妈流行商店都必须为相同的进口商品支付相同的额外费用

You might just be fucking retarded.

你可能只是他妈的弱智。

>>1529048

I know. Property taxes are way more damaging than tarifffs. Thanks for pointing that out.

我知道。财产税比关税更具破坏性。感谢您指出这一点。

And Jeff gets tax breaks because even Democrats know "trickle down" works and taxation is detrimental.

杰夫获得税收减免，因为即使是民主党人也知道“涓滴效应”有效，而税收是有害的。

>>1529050

>even Democrats know "trickle down" works

>即使是民主党人也知道“滴流”是有效的

Holy shit my fucking sides. I don't even have to point out that you're wrong, that statement alone just fucking shot your credibility in the back of the head.

天哪，我他妈的两侧。我什至不必指出你错了，光是这句话就让你的可信度在后脑勺受到打击。

>>1529053

I'm not certain why you'd have a problem grasping something so elementary. Maybe you're in a cult and this breaks with your cult's mantra?

我不确定为什么你在掌握如此基本的东西时会遇到问题。也许你加入了一个邪教，而这违背了你的邪教的信条？

IDK, trickle down works, fuck up doesn't and it's ovious.

IDK，滴流有效，操蛋则无效，而且很明显。

>>1529053

esl shill is just tossing bait on the ground so you reply to them

ESL shill只是把诱饵扔在地上所以你回复他们

It doesn't actually matter what you type out

实际上你输入什么并不重要

>>1529050

Trickle down doesn't work by left wing standards. I'd say any standards, but the right doesn't have standards, so that's implied.

按照左翼的标准，“涓滴效应”是行不通的。我想说任何标准，但右翼没有标准，所以这是暗示的。

>>1529056

If trickle down doesn't work, why does it have a proven history of working?

如果滴流不起作用，为什么它有被证明有效的历史呢？

The reason trickle down works it simple: everyone has more money because they pay less to a third party.

涓滴效应的原因很简单：每个人都有更多的钱，因为他们向第三方支付的费用更少。

Once again, you liggerals proved this with your opposition to tariffs.

你们这些利加主义者再次通过反对关税证明了这一点。

>>1529054

>>1529058

>Guys guys it totally works

>伙计们，这完全有效

Please explain how. I need another good laugh.

请解释一下如何。我还需要再开怀大笑。

>>1529059

Define trickledown.

定义滴流。

>>1529060

You're convinced it works but you don't know the definition of it?

您确信它有效，但您不知道它的定义？

>>1529061

I'm asking so there's no goalpost moving. But sure, I'll define it.

我问的是球门柱没有移动。但当然，我会定义它。

Trickledown is the proven practice of minimizing the government's theft of money thus enriching everyone by an equal amount.

涓滴效应是一种行之有效的做法，可以最大限度地减少政府盗窃资金，从而使每个人都平等致富。

>>1529063

It's not enriching everyone by an equal amount you fucking moron, as the name trickle down implies if you give rich people tax cuts they create more wealth for themselves which means making businesses, which creates jobs. Those jobs are the trickle you fucking mongoloid retard, tgem paying a handful of people as little as possible to make them even more generational wealth. what you're saying makes no fucking sense.

它并没有让每个人都平等地富裕起来，你这个白痴，正如这个名字所暗示的那样，如果你给富人减税，他们就会为自己创造更多的财富，这意味着创业，创造就业机会。这些工作是你他妈的蒙古人智障的涓滴，tgem尽可能少地支付少数人的工资，以使他们成为更一代人的财富。你说的话毫无意义。

It doesn't work because it's a nakedly slanted system that trusts wealthy people to just be cool and share.

它不起作用，因为它是一个赤裸裸的倾斜系统，相信富人只是冷静和分享。

And the fucking kicker is that you're touting trickledown under an admin that is all in on fucking ai designed to try and slash the work force, meaning your fucking trickle is deliberately trying to close the fucking valve the trickle is eeking from.

最糟糕的是，你在一个管理员的领导下兜售滴流，而这个管理员全都是他妈的人工智能，旨在试图削减劳动力，这意味着你他妈的滴流是故意试图关闭滴流所流出的该死的阀门。

>>1529063

Hahaha. Thanks anon. I needed this comedy in these trying times.

哈哈哈。谢谢阿诺。在这些艰难时期我需要这部喜剧。

>>1529065

>Those jobs are the trickle you fucking mongoloid retard, tgem paying a handful of people as little as possible to make them even more generational wealth.

>这些工作是你他妈的蒙古人智障的细流，tgem 尽可能少地支付少数人的工资，以使他们成为更一代人的财富。

At least I got a definition out of you.

至少我从你那里得到了一个定义。

A couple of questions and comments.

有几个问题和评论。

1) What's wonrg with generational wealth?

1) 代际财富有何意义？

2) AI isn't expressly about jobs. It's more about national defense. Obviously some jobs will be affected.

2）人工智能并不明确涉及就业。更多的是关于国防。显然，一些工作岗位会受到影响。

Excellent response BTW. The problem is that the government has vast regulatory power and doesn't use it to address those problems.

顺便说一句，反应很好。问题在于政府拥有巨大的监管权力，但却没有利用它来解决这些问题。

You're actualy feeding the rich with your red herring: taxation.

你实际上是在用你的转移注意力的东西来喂养富人：税收。

>N-no

Y-yes you are. As taxation is a bill paid to the government the cost is paid by consumers, renters thus innately causing inflation.

是-是的，你是。由于税收是向政府支付的账单，因此成本由消费者和租房者支付，因此自然会导致通货膨胀。

Billionaires love inflation because it technically lowers the effective cost of debt.

亿万富翁喜欢通货膨胀，因为它从技术上降低了债务的有效成本。

And the alternative to punitive taxes as a solution that doesn't actually work is regulating their businesses properly which none of you pigs ever talk about and you probably support, but the billionaire paid for mantra of "Tax The Rich (We Love It!)" is all you can spout.

作为一种实际上行不通的解决方案，惩罚性税收的替代方案是适当监管他们的企业，你们这些猪从来没有谈论过这一点，而且你们可能会支持，但亿万富翁支付了“向富人征税（我们喜欢它！）”的口头禅，这是你所能滔滔不绝的。

>>1529073

>2) AI isn't expressly about jobs. It's more about national defense. Obviously some jobs will be affected.

>2）人工智能并不明确与就业有关。更多的是关于国防。显然，一些工作岗位会受到影响。

Come on anon, be serious for once.

来吧，认真一次。

>You're actualy feeding the rich with your red herring: taxation.

>你实际上是在用你的转移注意力的东西来喂养富人：税收。

I like how in your eyes taxing the rich lets them hoard wealth and not taxing them also lets them hoard wealth. You love billionaire cock and boot leather that much?

我喜欢在你看来，对富人征税会让他们囤积财富，而不对他们征税也会让他们囤积财富。你就这么喜欢亿万富翁的阴茎和靴子皮革吗？

>>1529071

Oh I'm pretty hilarious.

哦，我真是太搞笑了。

For instance, you'll complain about a tarif that taxes foreign good specifically, but not when your rent goes up because your landlord's property taxes were raised, not realizing you pay your landlord's property taxes.

例如，您会抱怨专门对外国商品征税的关税，但当您的租金因房东的财产税提高而上涨时，您却不会抱怨，而没有意识到您支付了房东的财产税。

All taxation of the majority of the "wealthy" is exactly the same as this method.

大多数“富人”的所有税收都与这种方法完全相同。

The shockingly hilarious part is that you hated a tax escapable by making goods in the US, but not taxes that affect everyone in the US.

令人震惊的搞笑之处在于，你讨厌在美国制造商品而可以逃避的税收，而不是影响到美国每个人的税收。

It's like someone paid billions to pump that into your head, hoping you were too ignorant to connect the dots.

这就好像有人花了数十亿美元将这些内容灌输到你的脑海中，希望你太无知而无法将这些点联系起来。

Ultimately they were right as you love tafriffs being struck down and saw it as a huge win, but want maxium pain for your own countrymen.

最终他们是对的，因为你们喜欢关税被取消，并认为这是一个巨大的胜利，但希望你们自己的同胞承受最大的痛苦。

>>1529075

>I like how in your eyes taxing the rich lets them hoard wealth and not taxing them also lets them hoard wealth.

>我喜欢在你看来，对富人征税会让他们囤积财富，而不对他们征税也会让他们囤积财富。

Can you show me a case of where taxation prevented any wealthy person from making money? And who pays the Walton's taxes? Bezo's?

你能给我展示一个税收阻碍富人赚钱的案例吗？沃尔顿家族的税款由谁缴纳？贝佐的？

>>1529076

>Today on Anon literally just advocates for serfdom

>今天的匿名号实际上只是提倡农奴制

Also I think it's funny how you miss the issue that if rent increases, people move out to where rent is cheaper. Meanwhile if we use this mindset for tariffs, imagine if literally every single rentable space in the US went up by the same amount.

另外，我认为很有趣的是，你忽略了这样一个问题：如果租金上涨，人们就会搬到租金更便宜的地方。与此同时，如果我们用这种心态来对待关税，想象一下，如果美国的每一个可出租空间实际上都上涨了相同的数额。

>>1529075

>Come on anon, be serious for once.

>来吧，认真一次。

https://www.wired.com/story/ai-arms-race-china-us-cooperation/

Jeez, leave it to the leftards to be so uninformed they think others are retards.

天哪，让那些左翼人士无知，他们认为其他人都是弱智。

>>1529063

Drip drip drip goes the water.

滴滴滴去水。

Eat shit and crap

吃屎和垃圾

Puts you down on your knees

让你跪下

Down a dark street

沿着黑暗的街道

Aim back once you leave

离开后回头看

I've seen you coming

我看见你来了

Come in lads

进来吧小伙子们

You've seen the ad

你已经看过广告了

Too bad bad bad

太糟糕了太糟糕了

What you get

你得到什么

Is what you see

就是你所看到的

It's a trickle down theory

这是一个涓滴理论

And it's coming to me

它正在向我走来

Trickle down never did and never will work. Especially since Ford vs Dodge where only shareholders matter.

滴流从来没有、也永远不会起作用。尤其是自从福特与道奇的较量中，只有股东才重要。

Are you daft, or do you believe you will become a billionaire someday?

你是愚蠢的，还是你相信有一天你会成为亿万富翁？

>>1529078

ESL shill really likes being a slave, and wants us all to voluntarily put on the chains too

ESL shill真的很喜欢当奴隶，并且希望我们都自愿戴上锁链

>>1529073

That wasn't a definition you mongoloid retard, it was a general explanation of the system. Also, I'm not the person who was baiting you before, I should have NTA, but you didn't pull a definition out of them, you're just such a fucking retard you drew in a bystander to mock you.

这不是你们蒙古人迟钝的定义，这是对系统的一般解释。另外，我不是之前引诱你的人，我应该有NTA，但你没有从他们身上得出定义，你只是一个他妈的弱智，你拉了一个旁观者来嘲笑你。

>N-no

>Y-yes you are.

>是-是的，你是。

What are you even talking about here you scizo faggot, and why the fuck are you stuttering like a bitch in your own post?

你到底在说什么啊，你这个傻逼，为什么你在自己的帖子里像个婊子一样结巴呢？

>Ai isn't expressly about jobs.

>人工智能并不明确与就业有关。

>Starts a conversation about trickledown.

>开始一场关于涓滴的对话。

>Deflects and does not address the issue when the people trickling down on peasants are actively seeking to reduce the labor force. Changes the subject to defense for some reason.

>当农民正在积极寻求减少劳动力时，就转移了问题，没有解决问题。由于某种原因将主题更改为防御。

>A couple of questions and comments

>几个问题和评论

Why would I entertain your faggy questions, so you can Deflect and sidestep some more? Nobody cares about your commentary, kill yourself.

我为什么要考虑你那些基佬问题，这样你就可以更多地转移和回避？没人在乎你的评论，自杀吧。

>>1529078

>Also I think it's funny how you miss the issue that if rent increases, people move out to where rent is cheaper.

>而且我认为很有趣的是，你忽略了这样一个问题：如果租金上涨，人们就会搬到租金更便宜的地方。

Yes, exactly the idea with tariffs.

是的，这正是关税的想法。

>Meanwhile if we use this mindset for tariffs, imagine if literally every single rentable space in the US went up by the same amount.

>同时，如果我们用这种心态来考虑关税，想象一下，如果美国的每一个可出租空间都上涨了同样的金额。

True of property taxes.

财产税也是如此。

You'lre literally supporting my arguement but confusing the fuck out of yourself trying to hold onto what yourr cult has drilled into your silly little brain.

你确实支持我的论点，但你却试图抓住你的邪教灌输给你愚蠢的小大脑的东西，这让你自己感到困惑。

>>1529082

Don't take to me then. I don't like basic bitches anyway. Especially liggerals so invested in their decfective cult-ish poliicals beliefs they can't accept that taxation is a net negative on the economy. And better regulation should be the goal.

那就别来找我了。反正我不喜欢基本的母狗。尤其是那些如此投资于他们有缺陷的邪教政治信仰的利格勒主义者，他们无法接受税收对经济的净负面影响。更好的监管应该是目标。

But ultimately, the stupid fucking liggeral scum only believe the governemnt has one form of controlling things and that via taxation.

但最终，这些愚蠢的混蛋只相信政府有一种控制事物的方式，那就是通过税收。

What fucking idiots.

真是一群白痴。

>>1529085

esl shill is so spun around they're starting to advocate for regulation

ESL 骗局如此混乱，他们开始倡导监管

what a moron

真是个白痴

>>1529087

Look fagwit spammer, I'm all for regulation.

看看垃圾邮件发送者，我完全支持监管。

Now sit in the corner quietly.

现在静静地坐在角落里。

>>1529085

>Don't (talk) to me, wah, I'm a giant fucking pussy, my go-to insult is 'basic bitch' because I'm a candy-assed faggot who probably can't even swear in english

>别跟我说话，哇，我是个他妈的大阴户，我最常说的侮辱是“基本的婊子”，因为我是个糖屁股基佬，可能连英语都不会说脏话

>Better regulation should be the goal

>更好的监管应该是目标

Literally the opposite of what your pedophile overlords preach you stupid faggot, but of course you're willing to vote against your own interests and politics to own the fucking libs by letting the ruling class use your faggot ass as a condom to fuck them with.

从字面上看，这与你的恋童癖霸主宣扬你是愚蠢的基佬的说法相反，但你当然愿意投票反对自己的利益和政治，通过让统治阶级用你的基佬屁股作为避孕套来操他们，从而拥有他妈的自由。

>>1529088

No, you're up for self slavery and humiliation rituals

不，你准备接受自我奴役和羞辱仪式

Only an ESL moron like you would advocate for slashing taxes needed to pay people to enforce regulation

只有像你这样的 ESL 白痴才会主张削减支付人们执行监管所需的税收

>>1529077

>Can you show me a case of where taxation prevented any wealthy person from making money?

>你能给我展示一个税收阻碍富人赚钱的案例吗？

No because that's not the fucking goal. Making $20 instead of $21 dollars isn't preventing a profit.

不，因为那不是他妈的目标。赚 20 美元而不是 21 美元并不妨碍盈利。

>>1529083

>Yes, exactly the idea with tariffs.

>是的，这正是关税的想法。

Except the manufacturing boom didn't happen, because the tariffs were universal and it literally would cost more moving factories to the US because you'd have to pay for imports anyway.

但制造业繁荣并没有发生，因为关税是普遍存在的，而且将工厂转移到美国实际上会花费更多，因为无论如何你都必须支付进口费用。

>True of property taxes.

>财产税确实如此。

No it isn't.

根本不是。

This thread is dumb because nobody is advocating for trickle down economics

这个帖子很愚蠢，因为没有人提倡滴流经济学

You can't find footage of a Republican candidate saying "vote for me and I'll implement trickle down economics". All you will find is Democrat candidates saying "vote for me or my opponent will implement trickle down economics".

你找不到共和党候选人说“投票给我，我将实施涓滴经济学”的视频。你会发现民主党候选人说“投票给我，否则我的对手将实施涓滴经济”。

>>1529093

But the idea, I thought, was to prevent billionaires.

但我认为，这个想法是为了阻止亿万富翁。

So, in effect, the actual idea is simply to punish the wealthy out of spite and cause inflation?

那么，实际上，真正的想法只是出于恶意而惩罚富人并导致通货膨胀？

Interesting. No wonder the idea of taxation is so unpopular.

有趣的。难怪税收的想法如此不受欢迎。

>>1529094

>Except the manufacturing boom didn't happen, because the tariffs were universal and it literally would cost more moving factories to the US because you'd have to pay for imports anyway.

>除了制造业繁荣没有发生，因为关税是普遍的，而且将工厂转移到美国实际上会花费更多，因为无论如何你都必须支付进口费用。

Well, you gave it a chance, right? No you didn't.

好吧，你给了它机会，对吗？不，你没有。

When NAFTA was signed and China was admitted to the WTO, the effect wasn't immediate. It took decades to export manufacturing. Why would you think it would work after just 2 years with liggerals actively attacking it causing uncertainty?

当北美自由贸易协定签署以及中国加入世贸组织时，效果并没有立即显现。出口制造业花了几十年的时间。为什么你会认为它会在仅仅两年后发挥作用，而 liggerals 会积极攻击它并造成不确定性？

The uncertain nature of tariffs, which you align with billionaires on, is the same reason why USMCA is a better deal than NAFTA for the US.

关税的不确定性，你与亿万富翁们一致认为，这也是 USMCA 对美国来说比 NAFTA 更好的协议的原因。

>No it isn't.

> 不，不是。

It quote literally is. As property tax is rent paid to the government for use of land. It affects everyone in the region whether they own or not. Keeping in mind that property owners who rent will also likely raise rent to account for the additional taxes.

它引用的字面意思是。由于财产税是使用土地向政府支付的租金。它影响到该地区的每个人，无论他们是否拥有。请记住，租房的业主也可能会提高租金以支付额外税款。

Come on. This shit is obvious to anyone who's spent 4 seconds thinking. Raising rent and property taxes will cause people to live where the property taxes are lower and anyone who chooses to stay will face higher cost of living in all brackets.

快点。对于任何花 4 秒钟思考的人来说，这一点都是显而易见的。提高租金和财产税将导致人们居住在财产税较低的地方，而任何选择留下来的人都将面临各个方面更高的生活成本。

It's like trying to explain shit to an abattoir of people with a slave mentality.

这就像试图向一个屠宰场的具有奴隶心态的人解释狗屎一样。

>>1529104

>It took decades to export manufacturing. Why would you think it would work after just 2 years with liggerals actively attacking it causing uncertainty?

>出口制造业花了几十年的时间。为什么你会认为它会在仅仅两年后发挥作用，而 liggerals 会积极攻击它并造成不确定性？

Because decades of economic suffering isn't worth "hey maybe then we'll have manufacturing" you fucking retard.

因为几十年的经济苦难不值得“嘿，也许我们会有制造业”，你这个混蛋。

> Raising rent and property taxes will cause people to live where the property taxes are lower and anyone who chooses to stay will face higher cost of living in all brackets.

> 提高租金和财产税将导致人们居住在财产税较低的地方，任何选择留下来的人都将面临各个方面更高的生活成本。

You literally just blew up your own point about how property taxes affect everyone. You just admitted they don't.

您实际上只是推翻了自己关于财产税如何影响每个人的观点。你刚刚承认他们没有。

>>1529100

>But the idea, I thought, was to prevent billionaires.

>但我认为，这个想法是为了阻止亿万富翁。

The idea is to have money for public projects.

这个想法是为公共项目提供资金。

>>1529106

I wouldn't really call pensions for government employees looking to extract wealth "public projects".

我不会真正将那些寻求财富的政府雇员的养老金称为“公共项目”。

>>1529099

>You can't find footage of a Republican candidate saying "vote for me and I'll implement trickle down economics"

>你找不到共和党候选人说“投票给我，我将实施涓滴经济学”的视频

Really?

>https://nevadacurrent.com/2026/08/05/lombardo-rallies-with-trump-defends-taking-care-of-billionaires/

>you know, he’s taking care of his billionaire friends,” Lombardo said. “Those billionaire friends provide jobs. Unless you take care of them, those jobs are absent.”

>你知道，他正在照顾他的亿万富翁朋友，”隆巴多说。“那些亿万富翁朋友提供了就业机会。除非你照顾好他们，否则这些工作就不会存在。”

>https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3522907-gop-lawmaker-byron-donalds-says-trickle-down-economics-does-work/

>“Joe Biden will prefer to build an economy that doesn’t work for anybody, as opposed to letting the free market — and yes, trickle-down economics, which does work — actually flourish in the United States,” Donalds said.

>“乔·拜登更愿意建立一个不适合任何人的经济，而不是让自由市场——是的，确实有效的滴流经济——在美国真正蓬勃发展，”唐纳德说。

>>1529106

YAS You tell that fucker! We want Pelosi light rails from CA to NY at 1 billion per mile! Totally not mafia shit.

是的，你告诉那个混蛋！我们希望从加州到纽约的佩洛西轻轨每英里 10 亿美元！完全不是黑手党的狗屎。

>>1529108

Trickle down does work though. It has a proven history of working.

不过，滴流确实有效。它具有经过验证的工作历史。

>>1529110

>Trickle down does work though. It has a proven history of working.

> 不过，滴流确实有效。它具有经过验证的工作历史。

You realize the idea of "trickle down" is that wealth "trickles down", which it pointedly has not done, ever.

你意识到“滴流”的意思是财富“滴流下来”，但它从来没有这样做过。

>>1529111

It literally has trickled down. And calling less taxation "trickle down" is retarded propaganda.

它确实已经滴下来了。称减少税收为“涓滴效应”是一种迟钝的宣传。

>>1529050

Property tax that is logarithmic or progressive and inheritance tax over 4million boo hooo wow is the poor poor that had to deal with those. There are also tricks to tax landlords so they can’t pass on the price onto the consumer. Those should be implemented as well.

对数或累进的财产税和超过 400 万的遗产税是不得不处理这些问题的穷人。还有一些技巧可以向房东征税，这样他们就无法将价格转嫁给消费者。这些也应该得到实施。

So yes shill, regressive tax bad progressive tax good. For your pea sized brain and bad faith response

所以，是的，累退税不好，累进税好。为了你豌豆大小的大脑和不诚实的反应

>>1529048

If you mean all establishment politicians are captured by the same oligarch sonar class because of citizens united you are right.

如果你的意思是所有建制政客都被同一个寡头声纳阶级捕获，因为公民团结起来，你是对的。

>>1529111

This. The wealthy just capture more wealth, hence why wealth disparity has widened every decade since Regan.

这。富人只是攫取更多的财富，这就是为什么自里根以来贫富差距每十年都在扩大。

>>1529116

>Property tax that is logarithmic or progressive and inheritance tax over 4million boo hooo wow is the poor poor that had to deal with those. There are also tricks to tax landlords so they can’t pass on the price onto the consumer. Those should be implemented as well.

>对数或累进的财产税和超过 400 万的遗产税是不得不面对这些的穷人。还有一些技巧可以向房东征税，这样他们就无法将价格转嫁给消费者。这些也应该得到实施。

Seems more difficult than not causing pain via taxation. And when only the costs are paid by the consumers because of 'loopholes' will you complain about 'Republicans raising taxes'.

似乎比不通过税收造成痛苦更困难。当消费者只因为“漏洞”而付出成本时，你还会抱怨“共和党加税”吗？

Rehash the old, "real communism has never been tried: bit again, please.

重提一句老话，“真正的共产主义从未被尝试过：请再说一遍。

Your ideas are flawed, terrible, and proven to be harmful. You're in a cult.

你的想法是有缺陷的、糟糕的，并且被证明是有害的。你在邪教中。

>>1529108

I'm surprised you couldn't find footage of Donald Trump praising Trickle down economics

我很惊讶你找不到唐纳德·特朗普赞扬涓滴经济的镜头

Or George Bush

或者乔治·布什

Or Ronald Reagan

或者罗纳德·里根

>>1529119

Pain to the rich is a net good to society though.

不过，富人的痛苦对社会来说却是一种净好处。

>>1529114

>It literally has trickled down. And calling less taxation "trickle down" is retarded propaganda.

>它确实已经滴下来了。称减少税收为“涓滴效应”是一种迟钝的宣传。

You keep using the word "trickle down economics". That does not mean what you think it means.

你一直在使用“滴流经济学”这个词。这并不意味着你认为的意思。

>>1529118

And why is this a problem and how has increasing taxes prevented this?

为什么这是一个问题？增加税收是如何防止这种情况发生的？

Lower taxes was the solution to decades of economic stagnation affecting the entire country, BTW.

顺便说一句，降低税收是解决影响整个国家数十年经济停滞的办法。

so be mad that you're wrong and ridiculous.

所以你要为你的错误和荒谬而生气。

>>1529119

>Rehash the old, "real communism has never been tried: bit again, please.

>重提一句老话，“真正的共产主义从未被尝试过：请再说一遍。

There are literally multiple countries that have this system. Hell, we used to once upon a time before Regan came along and fucked it up.

实际上有多个国家拥有这个系统。天哪，我们曾经有过一次，然后里根出现了，把事情搞砸了。

>>1529122

So, now we're trying to change the definition?

那么，现在我们正在尝试改变定义？

>>1529114

>It literally has trickled down.

>它确实已经滴下来了。

Meanwhile, in reality

与此同时，现实中

>Worst wealth disparity in US history

>美国历史上最严重的贫富差距

>>1529119

Yes because consumers or normal people. They are the body politic. They are what democracy and the state apparatus working well looks after. Land lords, corporations, and wealthy oligarchs are not the body politic, they are anomalies to be suppressed and managed as harshly as possible. So normal people get go about the business of living an happy life

是的，因为消费者或普通人。他们是政治体。它们是民主和运作良好的国家机器所关心的。地主、企业和富有的寡头不是政治体，他们是需要被尽可能严厉镇压和管理的异常现象。所以普通人就开始过幸福的生活吧

>>1529123

>why is wealth inequality a problem

>为什么财富不平等是一个问题

Right, hold still and ask me again.

对了，你先别动，再问我。

>>1529124

And they're all getting poorer by the minute.

他们都在每时每刻变得更穷。

I literally just explained that Reagan lowered taxes ending decades of economic stagnation.

我实际上只是解释说里根降低了税收，结束了数十年的经济停滞。

Have you studied what the economy was like before Reagan?

你研究过里根之前的经济状况吗？

No, you probably just listened to some fuckwit propagandist commie faggot.

不，你可能只是听了一些愚蠢的宣传共产主义者的言论。

>>1529129

>I literally just explained that Reagan lowered taxes ending decades of economic stagnation.

>我实际上只是解释说里根降低了税收，结束了数十年的经济停滞。

Reaganomics is literally most of the reason behind our current economic issues. It is why the US national debt has only gone up since then.

里根经济学实际上是我们当前经济问题背后的大部分原因。这就是为什么美国国债自那时以来一直在上升。

>>1529129

• Bretton Woods — Dollar backed by gold. Nixon ends it in 1971. Dollar drops, no limit on printing.

• 布雷顿森林体系——美元由黄金支持。尼克松在 1971 年结束了它。美元下跌，印刷没有限制。

• Petrodollar — Oil priced in dollars. Weak dollar = pricier oil.

• 石油美元— 以美元计价的石油。美元疲软=石油价格上涨。

• Deficit spending — Vietnam + Great Society, no tax hike. Too much demand.

• 赤字支出——越南+伟大社会，不加税。要求太多了。

• Oil shocks — 1973 embargo, 1979 Iran. Costs up, output down.

• 石油冲击——1973 年禁运，1979 年伊朗。成本上升，产量下降。

• Low interest — Fed kept money cheap all decade. More dollars chasing less stuff.

• 低利率——美联储十年来一直保持廉价货币。更多的美元追逐更少的东西。

This is the reality Regan walked into. It did not have to do with socialism

这就是里根走进的现实。这与社会主义无关

>>1529135

What reganomics did

重组经济学做了什么

What it was

那是什么

• Cut taxes, especially at the top (70% 28%)

• 减税，尤其是顶层减税（70% 28%）

• Deregulate industry

• 放松行业管制

• Spend big on defense

• 在防守上投入巨资

• Theory: gains trickle down

• 理论：收益会逐渐下降

Why it’s criticized

为何受到批评

• Tax cuts went to the top; payroll taxes went up

• 减税措施深入人心；工资税上涨了

• Safety net cut — the burden shifted downward

• 安全网削减——负担下移

• Wages decoupled from productivity; inequality widened

• 工资与生产力脱钩；不平等现象扩大

• Debt tripled

• 债务增加两倍

>>1529136

How trickling down did not help people

滴水不漏对人们没有帮助

• Wages flatlined. Real median wages barely moved through the ’80s despite steady GDP growth

• 工资持平。尽管 GDP 稳定增长，实际工资中位数在 80 年代几乎没有变化

• Productivity/pay gap. Output per worker kept climbing; worker pay stopped tracking it — the split that starts around 1979 and never closes

• 生产力/薪酬差距。工人人均产出持续攀升；工人工资不再跟踪它——这种分裂始于 1979 年左右，并且从未结束

• Top-end capture. Top 1% share of national income roughly doubled from the late ’70s into the ’90s

• 高端捕获。从 70 年代末到 90 年代，收入最高的 1% 人群占国民收入的份额大约翻了一番

• Investment didn’t follow. Corporate savings from tax cuts went heavily to buybacks, dividends, and M&A rather than wages or new plants

• 投资没有跟进。减税带来的企业节省大量用于回购、股息和并购，而不是工资或新工厂

• Revenue shortfall. Cuts didn’t pay for themselves — hence the tripled debt, later partly clawed back via the 1982 and 1986 tax hikes

• 收入短缺。削减开支并没有收回成本——因此债务增加了两倍，后来通过 1982 年和 1986 年的增税部分收回了

• Bargaining power gone. PATCO firings and weakened labor enforcement meant workers couldn’t force a share of the gains

• 议价能力消失了。航管人员解雇和劳工执法力度减弱意味着工人们无法强制分享收益

• Costs shifted down. Payroll tax increases and cuts to housing aid, food stamps, and AFDC hit lower incomes directly

• 成本下降。工资税的增加以及住房援助、食品券和 AFDC 的削减直接导致收入下降

>>1529132

What about Carternomics and the Malaise speech?

卡特经济学和不安演讲怎么样？

https://youtu.be/ycxHX7n98vg

DemonRats want to steal from successful families to give to blacks and muslims. Nothing new.

恶魔鼠想要从成功家庭那里偷窃来送给黑人和穆斯林。没什么新意。

>>1529138

>The economic boom of the 1980s in the United States is often attributed to a series of policy decisions that allowed markets to operate more freely, leading to significant job creation and increased consumer spending. This period, which began in 1982, is marked by a 36% rise in real per capita consumption and the creation of nearly 35 million jobs.

>美国 20 世纪 80 年代的经济繁荣通常归因于一系列允许市场更自由运作的政策决定，从而导致大量就业机会的创造和消费者支出的增加。这一时期始于 1982 年，其特点是实际人均消费增长了 36%，并创造了近 3500 万个就业岗位。

>>1529149

Jesus Christ that liggeral got absolutely destroyed with facts

耶稣基督那个利格拉尔被事实彻底摧毁了

Why are retards in this thread complaining about trickle down

为什么这个线程中的迟钝者抱怨滴流

ESL shills mom loves trickle down, she can't stop begging for it

ESL 托儿妈妈喜欢滴下来，她无法停止乞讨

>>1529157

My mom's penis does love to squirt all over me.

我妈妈的阴茎确实喜欢喷到我身上。

>>1529091

Better regulation doesn't mean more regulations.

更好的监管并不意味着更多的监管。

Do you know the story of taxi cab medallions?

你知道出租车牌照的故事吗？

And what are my choices here?

我在这里有什么选择？

Higher taxes which affect me directly or rich people who aren't taking anything from me as money isn't finite?

更高的税收直接影响我，还是富人没有从我身上拿走任何东西，因为钱不是有限的？

In fact, taxes take from my pocket directly because I have to pay the Walton's taxes.

事实上，税款直接从我的口袋里扣除，因为我必须缴纳沃尔顿的税款。

And the regulations Democrats pass generally prevent the poor from from starting businesses (as if intentionally designed that way by billionaires).

民主党通过的法规通常会阻止穷人创业（就好像亿万富翁故意这样设计一样）。

I think I'll vote for less taxes and ignore billionaires making money since there's enough money for everyone.

我想我会投票支持减少税收并忽略赚钱的亿万富翁，因为每个人都有足够的钱。

>>1529160

That does explain why you're so pro pedophilia

这确实解释了为什么你如此支持恋童癖

>>1529168

>And the regulations Democrats pass generally prevent the poor from from starting businesses

>民主党通过的法规通常会阻止穷人创业

You shouldn't let your drug hallucinations drive your economic polices, you make up shit like this

你不应该让你的药物幻觉驱动你的经济政策，你编造出这样的狗屎

>>1529149

Job count says nothing about job quality. Private-sector union density fell from ~20% to under 12%, taking the wage premium and benefits with it. Manufacturing jobs were swapped for service and retail work — lower pay, no pension, weaker coverage — while part-time and temp work grew faster than full-time. And that consumption figure came from second earners and consumer debt, not raises: real median wages were flat

工作数量并不能说明工作质量。私营部门工会密度从 20% 左右下降到 12% 以下，工资溢价和福利也随之下降。制造业工作被服务业和零售业取代——工资更低、没有养老金、覆盖面更弱——而兼职和临时工作的增长速度快于全职工作。该消费数据来自第二收入者和消费者债务，而不是加薪：实际工资中位数持平

>>1529170

It's called the ease of doing business Index

这被称为营商便利度指数

The most difficult states to do business in America are blue states like Hawaii

在美国做生意最困难的州是夏威夷等蓝州

Occupational licensing is another thing that makes it difficult for poor people to start businesses. The highest burden for occupational licensing is Hawaii again at 972

职业许可是导致穷人创业困难的另一件事。职业执照负担最高的是夏威夷，为 972

>esl shill is really sure their AI slop is real answers

>esl shill 确实确定他们的 AI slop 是真正的答案

>>1529220

Hawaii is ranked 50 of 50 states in Ease of doing business

夏威夷的营商便利度在 50 个州中排名第 50 位

Hawaii is ranked 50 of 50 states in most occupations requiring licensing, with 867 occupations requiring licensing.

在大多数需要许可的职业方面，夏威夷在 50 个州中排名第 50，有 867 种职业需要许可。

When you ask "where are you getting this from" like we are making this up, when these are indexes which are measured globally

当你问“你从哪里得到这个”时，就像我们编造的那样，当这些是全球衡量的指数时

>>1529220

he seems lonely today

他今天看起来很孤独

>>1529263

>he

>>1529170

>you make up shit like this

>你编造出这样的狗屎

It's real, ho.

这是真的，呵呵。

>>1529171

In the 90s after Clinton signed NAFTA.

上世纪90年代，克林顿签署北美自由贸易协定后。

>>1529171

Ans I forgot to mention wages were flat, but so was inflation, which Biden 1.0 (Carter) caused or reigned over. There was a storm brewing for decades before Reagan.

答：我忘了说工资持平，但通货膨胀也是如此，这是拜登 1.0（卡特）造成或控制的。在里根之前，一场风暴已经酝酿了几十年。

esl shill is still trying to blame miltonian economics on democrats

ESL 希尔仍在试图将弥尔顿经济学归咎于民主党人

At this point I just don't care anymore, if the Apple rots it rots. Most of us don't live in NYC anyways.

现在我已经不在乎了，苹果烂了就烂了。无论如何，我们大多数人不住在纽约。

>>1529329

It's not about New York. It's about awareness.

这与纽约无关。这是关于意识的。

We need to do everything we can to avoid becoming victims of liggeralism.

我们需要尽一切努力避免成为自由主义的受害者。

>>1529335

Most real people are trying as hard as they can to stop being victims of reganomics, globalism, inflation, capitalism, and migaitism

大多数真实的人都在尽最大努力，避免成为重组经济学、全球主义、通货膨胀、资本主义和米加主义的受害者。

>we

Hi, liggy miggy piggy 1529335

嗨，小猪米吉 1529335

>>1529389

Uh, no. Most real people hate your guts.

呃，不。大多数真实的人都讨厌你的胆量。

Uh, yes. More sane people are superior to you, 1529404.

呃，是的。理智多的人都比你优秀，1529404。

>>1529406

I'm fairly certain the commie fagtivist meme is played out and nearly everyone knows you're liars.

我相当确定共产党的同性恋迷因已经上演了，几乎每个人都知道你是骗子。

>>1529391

>>1529404

Oh look the far right extremists think they're normalfags again.

哦，看看极右极端分子又认为自己是正常人了。

>>1529217

>>1529260

Hawaii has high regulations because it is an incredibly fragile ecosystem that the people living there are very protective of.

夏威夷有严格的法规，因为它是一个极其脆弱的生态系统，居住在那里的人们非常保护它。

>>1529613

It's an incredibly fragile economy because it's run by the Democrats who use government rules as a patronage network

这是一个极其脆弱的经济，因为它是由民主党人管理的，他们利用政府规则作为庇护网络