How do u expline to a earlet that this really is worth 5k
怎么跟没耳朵的人解释这玩意真值 5000
怎么跟没耳朵的人解释这玩意真值 5000
How do u expline to a earlet that this really is worth 5k
怎么跟没耳朵的人解释这玩意真值 5000
>>109799472
>>>/x/
>>109799472
whats with the weird twisty cable? seems like it would be an issue staying together, looks like it's already a problem too with the plastic sleeves
那根怪异的扭麻花线是怎么回事？感觉很难保持连接，而且看起来塑料套管那已经出问题了
This is $1-$10 worth of hardware you’re paying a $4989 markup.
这是 1-10 美元的硬件，你付了 4989 美元的溢价。
>>109799909
Im sure u spent more than 3 seconds actually looking into it
我确定你认真研究它超过 3 秒了
>>109800317
more time than you did
比你的时间长
I'd have no issue spending that kind of money on IEMs if it weren't for the fact they sound and fit worse than $20 chinkshit.
要不是这些玩意听感和佩戴比 20 美元国产垃圾还差，我真不介意在 IEM 上花这种钱。
>>109799472
These people are utterly deranged:
这帮人彻底疯了：
https://www.head-fi.org/showcase/empire-ears-x-astell-kern-novus.28108/reviews
>Some may hear the NOVUS as having a midrange that is mostly balanced with the other frequencies, and I'd be inclined to agree. However, I personally prefer a more forward vocal presentation, so to my ear, the midrange is ever so slightly recessed for my usual preferences. The lower midrange, though, is well represented, and both male and female artists are equally great. Instruments and vocals are still clear and concise, but they may lack a little energy and engagement for some, myself included. The level of detail and precision is honestly nothing short of fantastic.
>有人会觉得 NOVUS 的中频跟其他频段大致平衡，我倾向于同意。不过我个人偏好更突出的人声，所以在我耳朵里中频相对我的习惯稍稍后缩。但低中频表现很好，男女歌手都 equally 出色。器乐和人声依旧清晰凝练，但可能对某些人——包括我——少了点能量和参与感。细节和精准度说实话堪称奇妙。
>>109799472
You don't
你不
It's not
不对
Audiophiles are uniformly retarded, you are no exception to this rule
烧友清一色弱智，你也不是这条规则的例外
>>109804602
why is that deranged?
这哪里疯了？
>>109802849
some of them do, some don't
有些人会，有些人不会
>>109799472
If you want unironic explanation, personal audio is, uhm, personal and very subjective hobby where people individually create their diminishing returns threshold. And some of these people find value in what it has to offer that you don't find in cheaper competition. Nobody forces you to pay 5K for IEM and stops you from using Vidos or your smarthone or laptop speakers for music.
认真解释的话：个人音频嘛，就是「个人」且非常主观的爱好，每个人各自划定自己的边际收益递减阈值。其中一些人在这东西身上找到了你在更便宜竞品里找不到的价值。没人逼你花 5K 买 IEM，也没人拦着你用大法或手机或笔记本外放听歌。
Also nepo babies and nouveau riche buying status symbols.
还有富二代和新贵买身份象征。
>>109805132
Diminishing returns is cope. Shit straight up gets worse after $1k.
边际收益递减就是自我安慰。1000 美元之后东西 straight up 变差。
>>109805132
noo worth is an intrinsic property of the object and if its worth it for anyone its worth it for everyone! why are you introducing so much complexity
不——价值是物品的内在属性，对一个人值就对所有人值！你引入这么多复杂性干嘛
>>109805183
>i dont hear improvements after x so that's reality
>我听不出 X 之后的提升，所以这就是现实
>>109802849
t. I went to audio show and heard all the nice things I can't afford and I'm shitposting out of spite with the same pic for weeks
t. 我去了音响展、听遍了我买不起的好东西，然后带着同一张图怄气发帖好几个星期
>>109805260
>he misread "worse" as "don't hear improvements"
>他把「更差」误读成「听不出提升」
The absolute state of audiofools.
烧fool 的现状啊。
>paid shills: most of the time there are improvement with price increase
>付费狗托：多数时候越贵越好
>manufacturers: most of the time there are improvement with price increase
>厂商：多数时候越贵越好
>wannabe eceleb reviewers: most of the time there are improvement with price increase
>伪网红评测人：多数时候越贵越好
>audiofools: most of the time there are improvement with price increase
>烧fool：多数时候越贵越好
>one faggot on /g/: nonono akchually you are wrong and I'm right
>/g/ 某基佬：不不不其实你们都错我对
okay sweaty
行吧甜心
>>109805376
>massive IEM nozzles are nice because they just are, okay
>大 IEM 嘴管好就好在它就是好，行了吧
>>109805439
>'all' expensive IEMs have big nozzles
>「所有」贵 IEM 都是大嘴管
>this is also bad for 'everyone'
>这对「所有人」也是坏事
sounds right to me
我觉得说得对
do first worlders really pay this much for earphones
第一世界人真为耳机花这么多钱？
>>109805458
Finally you see the problem.
你终于看到问题了。
>>109805477
Do you ever wonder why you're so privileged to see through all this stuff? surely you're not smarter than all of them. Just rng i guess? a lot of factors coming together to privilege a sort of Neo pov. I'm not saying you should have a good answer but i'd be curious to hear your thoughts
你有没有想过自己凭什么有这种特权能看穿这一切？你肯定不会比他们所有人都聪明。纯 RNG 吧？一堆因素凑在一起赋予了你某种 Neo 视角。我不是说你该有好答案，但我挺好奇你怎么想
sometimes i imagine what it must be like to walk on a canjam showfloor for people like yourself. Must be completely surreal and bizarre
有时我会想象像你这样的人走在 CanJam 展馆里是什么感受。肯定超现实又怪诞
>>109805439
Gee I wonder how all the tubes and crossovers work.
呵，我倒想知道那些胆机和分频器是怎么工作的。
Imagine being an earlet or a manlet and having issue with 6mm nozzles, lmao.
想象一下没耳朵的人或矮子对 6mm 嘴管有意见，哈哈。
>>109805529
Experience, studying and training of course. Imagine picking a CPU by vibes instead of benchmarks. In audio this is acceptable for some reason.
经验、学习、训练呗。想象一下凭感觉而不是跑分挑 CPU。而在音频圈这不知为何是被接受的。
>>109805601
>2016
I don't know what are you trying to prove here. For reference Starfield was released in Dec 2019. MMK1 and B2 in 2020.
我不知道你想证明什么。参考一下：Starfield 2019 年 12 月发布。MMK1 和 B2 是 2020 年。
>>109805596
>In audio this is acceptable for some reason.
>而在音频圈这不知为何是被接受的。
Mental illness
精神疾病
>>109805624
And $10 panasonic shitbuds were released in 2010 and have the same objective sound quality. Your point?
而 10 美元的松下破耳塞 2010 年就出了、客观音质一样。你想说什么？
>>109805596
yeah. It's always a very externally oriented technical pov that says these things. Where things are only as real as the degree to which they can be defined and operationalized. Maybe combined with a unwillingness to model other ways of seeing. Kind of the same instinct as saying a psychedelic experience is "just chemicals". i think our disagreement is far upstream to audio
对。说这种话的总是那种极度外向化的技术视角：东西只在「可定义、可操作化」的程度上才算真实。也许再加上不愿为其他观看方式建模。有点像说致幻体验「只是化学物质」的本能。我觉得我们的分歧远在音频的上游
>In audio this is acceptable for some reason yeah imagine that in a subjective hobby
>而在音频圈这不知为何是被接受的——对啊想象一下，在一个主观爱好里
>he found $10 trick to solve music reproduction, audio companies hate him
>他发现了 10 美元解决音乐重放的神技，音频公司恨死他了
>>109799472
who the fuck is this even for
这他妈到底给谁做的
not even the most autistic audiophile isn't going to pay over 500$ for head- or earphones
连最 Autist 的烧友也不会为头戴或耳塞付超过 500 刀
is this for musicians or something? does this have any qol functions when you're on stage? is it made out of exotic materials that can't ever fail
这是给乐手之类用的吗？上台时有什么 QoL 功能吗？它是不是用永不损坏的奇异材料做的
nigga why the fuck is this 5 grand?
黑哥这玩意凭什么 5000 刀？
>>109805676
When a thing you "hear" disappears when you can't see the product then you don't hear that thing, sorry.
当你看不见产品时你「听到的」东西就消失了，那你听到的就不是那个东西，抱歉。
>>109805772
failing a blind test doesn't mean the percept wasn't based on a actual difference. Sorry
盲测失败不代表感知不基于真实差异。抱歉
>>109805908
If the difference isn't perceptible to human ears, then there's no practical difference.
如果差异人耳听不出来，那就没有实际差异。
>>109805908
>the difference was real in my mind
>差异在我心里是真实的
>>109805928
It's possible to fail a blind test because of skill issue or hearing damage. Nothing wrong with that. It's failing them and then coping that blind tests are le bad that's hilarious.
盲测失败可能因为技术问题或听力损伤。没什么问题。失败之后还要自我安慰说盲测不行，这才好笑。
>>109805930
you should turn that scrutiny around onto what's obviously real in your own mind some time. This is essentially the issue
你哪天该把这种审视反过来对准你自己脑子里那些「显然真实」的东西。这基本就是问题的核心
>>109805928
That's not what I said.
我没那么说。
>>109805426
What side are you even on?
你到底站哪边？
>paid shills
>付费狗托
>manufacturers
>reviewers
Those are all shills.
那全是狗托。
>audiofools
'nuff said.
就这。
Nice bait, though.
不过钩子撒得不错。
>>109799472
Fool and his money are easily parted
笨蛋和他的钱轻易就分家
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