>spent 25 YEARS at Adobe as Senior Software Quality Engineer

>spent 25 YEARS at Adobe as Senior Software Quality Engineer

>在 Adob​​e 担任高级软件质量工程师 25 年

>More than 15 years of quality engineering experience

>超过15年的品质工程经验

>Laid off in August 2025

>2025年8月被解雇

>Then he spent more than a year looking for another job in tech

>然后他花了一年多的时间寻找另一份科技工作

>Applications filtered out

> 过滤掉的应用程序

>Recruiters ghosted him

>招聘人员对他进行了鬼魂调查

>Interviews that never happened

>从未发生过的采访

>Eventually, he gave up

>最终他还是放弃了

>His next career?

>他的下一个职业是什么？

>Driving a school bus

>驾驶校车

Is this normal to you?

这对你来说正常吗？

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>>109573834

"quality assurance" tards exist to write and run automated tests, go through bullet-point lists in a word document and draw yellow rectangles in screenshots, it's as real of a profession as a "graphic designer" (it being a basic skillset not an actual role), i wish this man the best

“质量保证”测试的存在是为了编写和运行自动化测试，浏览Word文档中的项目符号列表并在屏幕截图中绘制黄色矩形，它就像“图形设计师”一样真实的职业（它是基本技能而不是实际角色），我祝愿这个人一切顺利

>>109573864

If graphic design is such a basic skillset why do code monkeys design such ugly ass interfaces

如果图形设计是这样的基本技能，为什么代码猴子要设计如此丑陋的界面

>>109573834

they're only hiring indians

他们只雇用印度人

>>109573834

B-but reddit and /g/ told me the devs who were fired were getting rehired back with 4 times the salary?

B-但是 reddit 和 /g/ 告诉我被解雇的开发人员会以 4 倍的薪水重新受聘？

If you were 25 years at a major American tech company and have not accrued enough stock in the biggest bull market in human history to retire with at least 8 digit net worth, you must be clinically retarded and your brain has to be studied at MIT

如果你在一家美国大型科技公司工作了 25 年，但在人类历史上最大的牛市中没有积累足够的股票，无法以至少 8 位数的净资产退休，那么你一定是临床弱智，你的大脑必须在麻省理工学院进行研究

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1786907164845759.png

>>109573883

when someone claims that their profession is merely "graphic designer" it almost certainly means they are unemployed student or occasionally some sort of a nepo baby

当有人声称他们的职业仅仅是“平面设计师”时，这几乎肯定意味着他们是失业的学生，​​或者偶尔是某种 Nepo 婴儿

imagine specifically writing unit tests for 25 years or "managing" teams of jeets writing unit tests and making screenshots for bug tickets for 25 years

想象一下专门编写单元测试 25 年，或者“管理”jeets 团队编写单元测试并为错误单制作屏幕截图 25 年

>>109573834

QA is a dead profession. But in any case, Adobe pays so little that after 25 years there, he hasn't saved enough money or savings for retirement?

QA 是一个已死的职业。但无论如何，Adobe 付的钱太少了，以至于他在那里工作了 25 年，还没有攒下足够的钱或储蓄来退休吗？

>he's around 50 years old

>他大约50岁

>Gen X

>Life takes a shit on him

>生活对他来说很糟糕

>again

I'm surprised he waited more than a year to drive the bus

我很惊讶他等了一年多才开公共汽车

I would have started driving the bus on week 1

我会在第一周开始驾驶公共汽车

Any income is better than no income

有收入总比没有收入好

There's no job too shit for me, I've done everything

没有什么工作对我来说太糟糕了，我已经做了一切

>>109573834

i quit my non tech job and got a job driving a gas delivery truck. the hours are worse but i don't give a shit about it and never think about it outside of work. it's not bad.

我辞掉了非技术工作，找到了一份驾驶天然气运输卡车的工作。工作时间更糟，但我不在乎，也从不在工作之外考虑它。这还不错。

eh he sounds happy enough

嗯，他听起来很高兴

good for him finding work is tough

对他有好处，找工作很难

hopefully he don't suicide

希望他不要自杀

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1786910599449705.png

I'll say it forever, the tech industry has the most evil HR on the planet

我会永远这么说，科技行业拥有地球上最邪恶的人力资源

It'd be less evil to work for satan himself or even mossad

为撒旦本人甚至摩萨德工作不会那么邪恶

>>109574249

what have you done

你做了什么

>>109573834

Sorry, Trump loves H1-B. It makes him and his fellow Epstein Island goers a lot of money and you? You don't matter.

抱歉，特朗普喜欢 H1-B。这让他和爱泼斯坦岛的同伴们赚了很多钱，你呢？你没关系。

>>109574378

>it's fun

> 很有趣

>the kids are good

>孩子们都很好

>hasn't even started yet

> 还没开始

bro is in for a rough awakening

兄弟即将觉醒

gen alpha kids are going to destroy him

一代阿尔法孩子们会毁了他

His career no longer exists. He did QA, they don't care about quality or QA of any kind any more. They just throw shit out or get AI to do it. His job stopped existing.

他的职业生涯已经不复存在了。他做了质量检查，他们不再关心任何类型的质量或质量检查。他们只是扔掉垃圾或者让人工智能来做这件事。他的工作不复存在了。

I see on his linkedin a few months ago he tried to start a "human-led" Quality Assurance consultancy. You can see that went nowhere.

我几个月前在他的 LinkedIn 上看到他试图创办一家“以人为主导”的质量保证咨询公司。你可以看到那毫无进展。

Drive the bus man it's better.

开公交车的人比较好。

>>109574378

>I love this work so much! Thank you everyone for firing me and not hiring me so that I could do this, my absolute dream job, which is so much fun - the children have been awesome, this is my dream job, really!

>我非常喜欢这个作品！感谢大家解雇我而不雇用我，这样我才能做到这一点，这是我绝对梦想的工作，这非常有趣 - 孩子们很棒，这真的是我梦想的工作！

- Written 1 week before he even had his first day at his new job

- 写于他第一天上班前一周

Truly a master of self delusion. Being fired and ghosted seems to have really hurt him. I hope he finds the happiness he desperately wants this new job to bring him somehow, against all odds.

真是一个自欺欺人的高手。被解雇和鬼魂似乎真的伤害了他。我希望他克服一切困难，找到他迫切希望这份新工作能给他带来的幸福。

surely after 25 years working in a world renowned bigtech-adjacent SV shop, hes got atleast a few mil in the brokerage?

在一家世界知名的、与大型科技公司相邻的 SV 商店工作了 25 年之后，他肯定至少有几百万的经纪收入吧？

>>109573834

I had luddites attack me when I said AI would replace engineers. Guess I was right.

当我说人工智能将取代工程师时，我遭到了勒德分子的攻击。我想我是对的。

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1786913248268338.png

>>109574729

back on your yacht mark there's some drowning kids to ignore

回到你的游艇标记上，有一些溺水的孩子需要忽略

>>109574747

lol >>109569826

哈哈>>109569826

>>109574749

At least he's not driving a bus, lol.

至少他不开公共汽车，哈哈。

>>109573834

people might call it ageism but do you want a 50 year old know-it-all in the office?

人们可能会称之为年龄歧视，但你希望办公室里有一个 50 岁的万事通吗？

>>109573864

>>109573834

>25 yoe

>25岁

>senior engineer

>高级工程师

>senior QUALITY engineer

>高级品质工程师

this guy must be genuinely brainead. at 25 yoe you should either be director level or retired. at the very least you should be out of the QA ghetto

这家伙肯定是真的有脑子。 25岁的时候，你要么达到主管级别，要么退休。至少你应该走出 QA 贫民窟

>>109574501

he deserves it

他应得的

>>109574702

probably got at least one divorce under the belt. guys like that usually do.

可能至少有过一次离婚经历。像这样的人通常都会这样做。

>>109573834

Of course it's not normal. We poured trillions into a single sector in a way that would make developing and planned economies blush, beating down conscientious investors with the might of blind passives and cynical VC money. Reason is out the window. Stupid things will continue to happen because money is a form of mind control and literal comic book villains have successfully put us in thrall to their plans to never lose ever.

当然这不正常。我们向一个行业投入了数万亿美元，这种方式会让发展中经济体和计划经济体脸红，用盲目的被动投资者和愤世嫉俗的风险投资的力量击败有责任心的投资者。理性已经被排除在外了。愚蠢的事情将会继续发生，因为金钱是精神控制的一种形式，而漫画书中的恶棍已经成功地让我们受制于他们永远不会失败的计划。

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1786916101423379.jpg

>>109573984

>"Graphic design isn't a real job" Guy for the "Being able to carry a single line of logic through his comment" Vhallenge.

>“图形设计不是一份真正的工作”盖伊的“能够通过他的评论进行单行逻辑”Vhallenge。

I can't say I'm surprised.

我不能说我很惊讶。

>>109574397

I'd say my worst job was working on a corn research farm for $7/hr

我想说我最糟糕的工作是在玉米研究农场工作，每小时 7 美元

Me standing in knee high corn, the tallest thing in an open field, in an electric storm, flooded up to my ankles, with a rainbow slake of pesticides swirling around my feet, and I'm just there wishing God would just end it all and strike me with lightning.

我站在齐膝高的玉米地里，那是开阔地里最高的东西，在一场雷雨中，洪水淹没了我的脚踝，彩虹般的杀虫剂在我脚边旋转，我只是在那里希望上帝结束这一切，用闪电击中我。

>>109573834

Fuck him, adobe software is complete dogshit, worthless cocksucker.

去他妈的，adobe 软件完全是狗屎，毫无价值的混蛋。

>>109573834

He should have enough money from his pay, 401k, & stock to retire. He could have retired years ago if he just invested in an S&P 500 fund or even put all his savings into high-yield CDs.

他的工资、401k 和股票应该有足够的钱来退休。如果他只是投资一只标准普尔 500 指数基金，甚至将所有积蓄都投入高收益 CD，他可能几年前就退休了。

>>109575240

I don't know if he's in charge of these decisions, but I absolutely hate how Adobe programs like Photoshop never release memory when they don't need them, e.g. closing a PSD. They either play dumb or say it's by design. Such scumbags.

我不知道他是否负责这些决定，但我绝对讨厌像 Photoshop 这样的 Adob​​e 程序在不需要内存时从不释放内存。关闭 PSD。他们要么装傻，要么说这是故意的。这样的人渣。

https://community.adobe.com/questions-712/why-does-ps-not-release-memory-what-s-going-on-how-to-solve-it-1619431

https://community.adobe.com/questions-712/photoshop-hogging-memory-for-decades-1174370

https://community.adobe.com/questions-712/photoshop-sat-hogging-memory-while-doing-nothing-1180801

https://community.adobe.com/questions-712/photoshop-hogging-ram-even-with-no-files-open-1176192

https://community.adobe.com/questions-712/how-do-i-stop-adobe-software-from-using-so-much-memory-1553653

https://community.adobe.com/questions-712/photoshop-hogging-ram-even-with-no-files-open-1176192

>>109573834

Based pedophile, probably drowning in cunny

基于恋童癖，可能淹没在阴户中

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1786917929667191.jpg

>>109574018

what suprises me is that all he can do is work for other people. he doesn't have contacts or concepts and shit he can get on with for himself.

令我惊讶的是，他所能做的就是为别人工作。他没有人脉，没有概念，也没有自己可以处理的事情。

>>109575352

Also before anyone goes "Errrrm, allocating memory is slow", Clip Studio Paint has a button that lets you clean up unused memory. At least give that as a manual option.

另外，在有人说“呃，分配内存很慢”之前，Clip Studio Paint 有一个按钮可以让您清理未使用的内存。至少将其作为手动选项。

>>109574747

you don't actually know what "luddite" means do you?

你其实不知道“卢德分子”是什么意思吧？

>>109575384

The answer to your question is that Adobe uses a non-compacting garbage collector in all their software.

您问题的答案是 Adob​​e 在其所有软件中使用非压缩垃圾收集器。

>>109573864

>fire all the quality assurance tards because they're not real and don't do real work

>解雇所有质量保证延迟，因为它们不是真实的并且没有做真正的工作

>quality of software goes down

>软件质量下降

How could this have happened to the software industry?

软件行业怎么会发生这种事？

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1786920683983891.gif

>>109575679

i-it is like one of them winny pooh 9gag meme images

我-它就像其中之一 小熊维尼 9gag meme 图像

>"persistent memory leak" :/

>“持久内存泄漏”：/

>"non-compacting garbage collector" ;)

>“非压缩垃圾收集器”;)

>>109574747

QA is not an engineer, copie

QA 不是工程师，复制

>>109573834

Most likely did the same easy work over and over again and wasn't keeping up with new technological developments throughout those 15 years. He's the software engineering equivalent of the guy holding up the SLOW sign at a construction site.

很可能是一遍又一遍地做同样简单的工作，并且在这 15 年里没有跟上新技术的发展。他在软件工程中相当于在建筑工地上举着慢速标志的人。

>>109575703

pajeet running a script to auto-click 3 buttons by their text label or drawing occasional rectangles around some padding not exactly matching figma slides is not going to salvage the broader mess

pajeet 运行一个脚本来通过文本标签自动单击 3 个按钮，或者在一些不完全匹配 Figma 幻灯片的填充周围偶尔绘制矩形，这不会挽救更广泛的混乱

adobe had already given up by the point ~10 year ago when you opened an photoshop/illustrator sidebar for it to launch 90MB nodejs.exe to draw some textboxes and buttons for exporting svg files

大约 10 年前，当您打开 Photoshop/illustrator 侧边栏以启动 90MB 的 nodejs.exe 来绘制一些用于导出 svg 文件的文本框和按钮时，adobe 就已经放弃了

>>109575041

These days you can get divorced and be fairly okay if your ex was making around the same amount of money.

如今，如果你的前任赚的钱和你的钱差不多，你可以离婚，也没什么问题。

The economy is so fucked up that the average couple simply want to incur as little financial damage as possible and just split things right down the middle. Ask me how I know.

经济如此糟糕，以至于普通夫妇只想尽可能减少经济损失，然后将事情平分秋色。 问我怎么知道的。

>>109574747

if there won't be more low and mid level engineers, where will high level engineers come from in 10 years? will they be replaced with AI too? this would only further the wealth gap, which is bad news not only for the people, but also for the economy. the more concentrated wealth is the worse is for the stability of the system, ig accelerationists are loving this

如果不再有更多的中低级工程师，10年后高级工程师从哪里来？它们也会被人工智能取代吗？这只会进一步拉大贫富差距，这不仅对人民来说是坏消息，对经济来说也是坏消息。财富越集中，系统的稳定性就越差，ig加速主义者很喜欢这个

>>109573834

One must think him happy now

现在人们一定认为他很幸福

>>109575380

There aren't many developers who are truly "full stack." And I don't mean people who do node.js front and backend. There aren't many people who can admin the linux boxes, the database, the CI, write the software, orchestrate the deployment, and sell a product. Most people are like him, they sit in their little silo. He knows one part of the software development process, QA. That's all he did for 15 years. Clock in, do QA, clock out, collect a paycheck. And that's exactly how your boss wants it to be. You are a little cog, easy to let go or replace. Your boss does not want the one guy who set up, builds, and runs the entire stack. Because that guy has too much power, more than the boss. If they get a guy like that, they gradually break him down. Taking away bits and pieces of his work, until he is atomized into a little box too.

真正的“全栈”开发人员并不多。我并不是指那些做 Node.js 前端和后端的人。能够管理 Linux 机器、数据库、CI、编写软件、协调部署和销售产品的人并不多。大多数人都像他一样，坐在自己的小筒仓里。他了解软件开发过程的一部分，即 QA。这就是他15年来所做的一切。打卡上班，进行质量检查，打卡下班，领取工资。这正是你的老板所希望的。你是一个小齿轮，很容易被放弃或取代。你的老板不需要一个人来设置、构建和运行整个堆栈。因为那家伙的权力太大了，比老大还要大。如果他们遇到这样的人，他们就会逐渐把他击垮。把他的作品一点点拿走，直到他也被雾化到一个小盒子里。

>>109574249

He wanted to get back into the tech world. Taking a job in another industry can be a trap as the time and energy it takes from you leaves you with less of it for pursuing a path back into your old career. And once you get a bump or two up the ladder in the new field, it becomes more difficult to switch back, both due to skill degradation and because the hiring pipeline is designed to filter you out.

他想重返科技世界。在另一个行业找到一份工作可能会成为一个陷阱，因为它会占用你的时间和精力，让你没有足够的时间和精力重新回到原来的职业生涯。一旦你在新领域获得了一两次晋升，你就很难再转回来，这既是由于技能退化，也是因为招聘渠道的设计就是为了将你过滤掉。

He held out a year but the tech industry sees any resume gap over six months as poison. He probably burnt through his savings, which is why he finally gave up instead of continuing to bang on the door being guarded by HR and the recruiter clan.

他坚持了一年，但科技行业认为任何超过六个月的简历差距都是毒药。他可能已经花光了自己的积蓄，这就是为什么他最终放弃了，而不是继续敲打由 HR 和招聘人员把守的大门。

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>>109573834

"Driving a school bus" not is a amazing job, schools hire everybody. You see why this character exist in The Simpsons

“驾驶校车”并不是一项了不起的工作，学校雇用所有人。你知道为什么这个角色会出现在《辛普森一家》中

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1786925685426775.jpg

>>109576219

He probably should have contacted a lawyer instead. Adobe isn't reducing head count, they just got rid of him because he was 40-something. That's illegal. My guess is he did not have any saving you mention. He took the severance package which means you agree not to sue them and train your replacement. And he thought, it will be fine, I'll just get another job and I get a whole year severance too, yay! Now he's driving a bus.

他可能应该联系律师。 Adobe 并没有减少员工数量，他们只是解雇了他，因为他已经 40 多岁了。这是非法的。我的猜测是他没有任何你提到的储蓄。他接受了遣散费，这意味着您同意不起诉他们并培训您的继任者。他想，没关系，我会再找一份工作，而且我还会得到一整年的遣散费，耶！现在他正在开公共汽车。

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1786925802901590.jpg

>>109575352

Its literally because they don’t need to fix it. After effects has something like 4 developers.

从字面上看是因为他们不需要修复它。 After Effects 大约有 4 名开发人员。

They locked in a software monopoly that everyone has to use. Nothing will change until its broken.

他们锁定了每个人都必须使用的软件垄断。一切都不会改变，直到它被打破。

>>109573864

This. It used to be that you dogfooded your shit as a proper tech company and bug reports would lead to bugs being found before you shipped your gold master. Then they replaced that with writing tests and other balderdash, which is itself taking away tons of time and energy from the actual task of iterating the development cycle. Sure it catches some bugs, but is it a lot?

这。过去，作为一家正规的科技公司，你需要对自己的狗屎进行测试，错误报告会导致在你交付你的金牌大师之前发现错误。然后，他们用编写测试和其他胡言乱语取而代之，这本身就从迭代开发周期的实际任务中占用了大量的时间和精力。当然它捕获了一些错误，但是它很多吗？

>>109576145

That's a "fuck you got mine" type of problem. For the corporate life is good, the actually important open positions get snatched up fast by applicants with good resumes and all the menial low level bullshit is done by AI or jeets for pennies on the dollar, why should they waste enormous amounts of money and time tard wrangling juniors when someone else can do the grunt work for them and they can just directly skim off the top?

这是一个“操，你有我的”类型的问题。因为企业生活是美好的，真正重要的空缺职位很快就会被简历好的求职者抢走，而所有卑微的低级废话都是由人工智能或杰特以微不足道的价格完成的，为什么他们要浪费大量的金钱和时间来拖延与初级员工的争论，而其他人可以为他们做这些繁重的工作，而他们可以直接从顶部掠夺呢？

>but everyone else's also thinking the same so isn't this going to-

>但其他人也有同样的想法，所以这不是会-

Does it show up on the next quarter or the three year plan? No? Not our problem.

它会出现在下一季度或三年计划中吗？不？不是我们的问题。

>>109575231

>corn research farm

>玉米研究农场

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1786927639461258.jpg

>>109576203

He chose to remain mediocre.

他选择保持平庸。

>>109573834

>25 years at a major tech firm

在大型科技公司工作超过 25 年

>doesnt have enough contacts to monkey branch into the next position

>没有足够的联系人来猴子分支到下一个位置

wut

>>109573834

ageism occurs in tech. being skilled in unpopular tech or no longer being hands on is one way to survive. nothing wrong with leaving to do something else, especially in the current market. staying at the same employer for years on end is poorly thought of.

年龄歧视发生在科技领域。 精通不受欢迎的技术或不再亲自动手是生存的一种方式。 离开去做其他事情并没有什么错，尤其是在当前的市场上。 连续多年为同一个雇主工作是很糟糕的想法。

>>109573834

Experienced white men cost too much and they're not a part of the jeet tribe so it's a double whammy.

经验丰富的白人成本太高，而且他们不属于吉特部落，所以这是双重打击。

>>109573883

>>109573984

That's not it. It's one of those things that companies have to keep in-house to some degree. Every big company has in-house graphic designers and UI experts (there is cross-pollenation there) and these are fully fledged departments so they are funded and expected to exist and operate, that means you have this mass of artsy fartsy people constantly wanting to revive some trend or make their mark and niggling with everything everywhere for no good reason. Drop shadows, flatshit, skeu, Alegria, shiny bubble-candy, a hundred things more have all flashed before our weary eyes. It's because they can't fire a whole department and the execs and marketing people need them. So they infest the company.

不是这个。在某种程度上，这是公司必须保留在内部的事情之一。每家大公司都有内部的图形设计师和 UI 专家（那里存在交叉授粉），这些都是成熟的部门，因此它们有资金支持并期望存在和运营，这意味着你有一大群艺术气息浓厚的人不断地想要复兴某种趋势或留下自己的印记，并无缘无故地对所有事情进行琐事。阴影、平淡、skeu、Alegria、闪亮的泡泡糖，还有一百种东西都在我们疲惫的眼前闪过。这是因为他们无法解雇整个部门，而高管和营销人员需要他们。所以他们感染了公司。

It was tolerable when it was a handful of dog fooders. But now it's gotta be whole sweatshops full of artfags.

当有少数狗食者时，这是可以忍受的。但现在它已经变成了充满艺术品的血汗工厂。

> job for major software company starting in 2000

> 2000年开始在大型软件公司工作

>works for 25 years

>工作25年

How is he not a multi millionaire by now? Even if he earned on average 90k/year his entire 25 year career, DCA that entire time achieve that target.

他现在怎么还不是千万富翁呢？即使他在整个 25 年的职业生涯中平均每年赚取 9 万美元，DCA 也始终实现了这一目标。

>>109576246

It's decent money for what it is because few want to do it and due to past scandals, there's a deep background check that filters out lots of people from the bottom of the labor pool. Many school districts stagger start times of schools so the same driver can do two or three routes in the morning and then again in the afternoon.

就其本身而言，这是一笔不错的钱，因为很少有人愿意这样做，而且由于过去的丑闻，有一个深入的背景调查，从劳动力池的底层过滤掉了很多人。许多学区错开学校的上课时间，因此同一个司机可以在早上走两到三条路线，然后在下午再走一遍。

But you do have to deal with children, teens, and parents. Now that everything is stuffed with cameras, it's a bit better. Even with that, you still have to deal with those who want to fuck with you for various reasons. You'll be vindicated in the end but it's still annoying to deal with.

但你确实必须与儿童、青少年和父母打交道。现在一切都塞满了相机，那就好一点了。即便如此，你仍然必须面对那些出于各种原因想玩弄你的人。你最终会被证明是正确的，但处理起来仍然很烦人。

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1786929524702960.jpg

He sounds pretty useless probably why he got fired

他听起来很没用，这可能是他被解雇的原因

>>109573834

are you scared to be in that kind of situation? lol I wish I could work on something totally different sometimes.

你害怕处于那种情况吗？哈哈，我希望有时我能做一些完全不同的事情。

>>109576203

>Your boss does not want the one guy who set up, builds, and runs the entire stack. Because that guy has too much power, more than the boss

>你的老板不想要一个负责设置、构建和运行整个堆栈的人。因为那家伙的权力太大了，比老大还要大

Your dumb ass comment proves you have no experience in the work force. You have no idea how large enterprises work if you think his boss is the reason things are silo'd. That is literally how entire orgs like that work.

你的蠢话证明你没有工作经验。 如果你认为老板是造成事情孤立的原因，那么你就不知道大型企业是如何运作的。 这就是整个组织的运作方式。

>>109573834

will he drive the bang bus?

他会开爆炸巴士吗？

>>109573834

have you ever used adobe products? not only is this mans firing justified, they should probably stone him to death.

您使用过 adobe 产品吗？开枪射击这个人不仅是合理的，而且他们很可能应该用石头砸死他。

>>109575828

your wife was reasonable. most women are demons that will send you under the bridge

你妻子是通情达理的。大多数女人都是恶魔，会把你送下桥

>>109576203

your manager doesn't care what you do man, just get your things done in time and don't harass your coworker. It's same for any kind of jobs, why would they care whether you can install gentoo or build a PC lol.

你的经理不在乎你做什么，只要及时完成你的事情，不要骚扰你的同事。对于任何类型的工作都是一样的，为什么他们会关心你是否会安装gentoo或组装一台PC哈哈。

>>109576636

It's probably about the large pay cut. The median pay for a school bus driver is $37k. IT jobs don't pay as much as FAGMAN and universities would have you believe but it's still at least 2.5X what a bus driver makes. For his level of experience, it was probably about 4X.

这可能是因为大幅减薪。校车司机的平均工资为 37,000 美元。 IT 工作的薪水并不像 FAGMAN 和大学让您相信的那么高，但仍然至少是公交车司机收入的 2.5 倍。对于他的经验水平来说，这可能是 4 倍左右。

>>109576834

Just checked for my upper middle class school district. The job pays $26/hour and you drive three hours in the morning, have a mid-day break, and then another three hours in the afternoon. There are 180 school days, so you get paid $28,080/year. The mid-day break isn't large enough to do a second job but you do have summers off, so you could pick up some seasonal work.

刚刚检查了我的中上阶层学区。这份工作的工资为 26 美元/小时，你早上开车​​三个小时，中午休息一下，然后下午再开车三个小时。有 180 个教学日，因此您的年薪为 28,080 美元。中午的休息时间不足以做第二份工作，但你确实有暑假，所以你可以做一些季节性的工作。

>>109576834

>>109576850

Well schools do need bus drivers, AI can’t replace them due to children misbehaving and other unforeseen consequences.

学校确实需要公交车司机，但由于儿童行为不端和其他不可预见的后果，人工智能无法取代他们。

>>109573834

why didn't he have enough to just retire?

为什么他没有足够的钱退休呢？

25 years is like a 10x on sp500

25 年相当于 sp500 的 10 倍

he should be a millionaire by now

他现在应该是百万富翁了

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1786938916483400.png

>25 years

>25岁

>no connections

>没有连接

>not enough savings to do your own thing with that experience

>没有足够的积蓄来用这种经验做自己的事情

Retard alert

弱智警报

>>109573834

>fired just like that

>就这样被解雇了

Why is this allowed in the land of the free? In my Euro country you can't simply fire someone because of automation you must either repurpose the guy or pay him enormous compensations

为什么在自由之地允许这样做？在我的欧元国家，你不能因为自动化而简单地解雇某人，你必须重新调整这个人的用途，或者向他支付巨额赔偿

>>109577388

And that's why Europe continues to stagnate.

这就是欧洲继续停滞不前的原因。

I don't care if it's normal or not. I'm not playing HRs games and I'm glad others are refusing to as well.

我不在乎这是否正常。我不玩人力资源游戏，我很高兴其他人也拒绝这样做。

The people posting about retiring are so demoralizing. As if having money is going to magically give you value. Well I guess I got my bag, time to sit in this chair and die early I guess.

那些发布关于退休的帖子的人真是士气低落。就好像拥有金钱会神奇地给你带来价值一样。好吧，我想我已经拿到了我的包，是时候坐在这把椅子上，早点死去了。

>>109576850

Seems comfy as fuck if you have *some* savings but are not full FIRE. If they give you decent family health insurance, I may look into this myself after I get fired/laid off.

如果你有“一些”积蓄但还没有完全燃烧，那看起来就他妈的舒服了。如果他们为您提供体面的家庭健康保险，我可能会在被解雇/下岗后亲自调查此事。

>>109573834

>Senior Software Quality Engineer

>高级软件质量工程师

Sounds like some made up bullshit.

听起来像是胡编乱造的。

>>109577388

>In my Euro country

>在我的欧元国家

So, right now you have protections in place that are working - basically communism lite that prevents the indians from taking over.

所以，现在你已经有了有效的保护措施——基本上是共产主义精简版，可以防止印度人接管。

It won't last long. Effectively zero whites will be in euro stem in 5 years. the indians just need to get into certain positions of power to kick you down.

它不会持续太久。实际上，五年后欧元区白人将为零。印第安人只需要占据某些权力位置就能把你踢倒。

>india<

>>109577476

>>109573834

Working 25 years at adobe as a senior dev should be enough time for you to have saved up enough money and retire no? Thats a 100k+ job per year

作为一名高级开发人员在 adobe 工作了 25 年，应该足够你攒够钱然后退休了，不是吗？那是每年 10 万+ 的工作

>>109573834

How the fuck are you not retired after working 15 years in tech? Let alone 25 years like this guy. How retarded can you be

在科技行业工作了 15 年，你怎么还不退休？更不用说像这个家伙25岁了。你能有多迟钝

>>109573834

you already posted this on /pol/ faggot

你已经在 /pol/ fagot 上发布了这个

>>109573834

>>109575703

Don't look at who's the ceo of adobe in the past 2 decades. Surely it would be racist of you to put 2 and 2 together and figure out why quality has been declining.

别看过去20年谁是adobe的CEO。如果你把 2 和 2 放在一起来找出质量下降的原因，那肯定是种族主义。

>>109573983

i'm sorry zoomie but this isn't how things work anymore.

我很抱歉 Zoomie，但这已经不再是这样了。

>>109573834

ageism sucks, but i also can see why they wouldn't take someone who was doing the same thing for 25 years. you're supposed to go into management by this time or have your own company.

年龄歧视很糟糕，但我也能理解为什么他们不接受一个做了 25 年同样事情的人。这个时候你应该进入管理层或者拥有自己的公司。

>>109577555

Checked.

It's not agism, it's just indians, fool. indians are by definition a different race totally separate from the white races.

这不是无性别主义，这只是印度人，傻瓜。根据定义，印第安人是一个与白人完全不同的种族。

We are incompatible, simple as. Wherever the aliens - non-whites - go there we are nothing there! we REQUIRE that we may exist our own place exclusionary of THEM!!!

我们不相容，就这么简单。无论外星人——非白人——走到哪里，我们就在那里什么都不是！我们要求我们可以存在自己的地方，排除他们！

Erika! Erika!

埃里卡！埃里卡！

>>109577509

If you look at his linkedin profile, he's got no dev related skills.

如果你查看他的 linkedin 个人资料，你会发现他没有开发相关的技能。

>>109577602

Post a screenshot?

发个截图看看？

>>109573834

>25 years

>25岁

>remote

Well at least he saved up enough money to retire.

好吧，至少他存了足够的钱退休。

Every company should be forced to fire at least 5% of their workforce every year.

每家公司每年都应该被迫解雇至少 5% 的员工。

Stops situations like this where someone overestimates their own value.

阻止有人高估自己价值的情况。

>>109577602

Even if thats the case adove is one of those companies that even a lower role pays enough money for you to retire max 15 years. If by then you dont have enough to retire its entirely your fault ngl

即使是这种情况，adove 也是那些即使职位较低的公司也能支付足够的钱让你最多退休 15 年的公司之一。如果到那时你还没有足够的钱退休，那完全是你的错 ngl

>>109577609

Doxing is against the rules.

人肉搜索是违反规则的。

>>109573834

Blessed move. Actually helping people out now.

吉祥之举。现在确实在帮助人们。

He needs to be interrogated in a police station. How can anyone with access to US capital markets for 25 years while earning tech salary not be financially self-sufficient?

他需要在警察局接受讯问。一个进入美国资本市场25年、同时赚取技术工资的人怎么可能在经济上不自给自足呢？

>>109577544

Except it was over the past 25 years

只不过是在过去的25年里

>>109577635

His name is in the OP pic.

他的名字出现在OP图片中。

>>109577651

yes, it hasn't worked since even before then. you live in 2026 currently.

是的，从那以后甚至在那之前它就没有起作用。你现在生活在2026年。

>Implying I wouldn't save up my money then fuck off to an easier/less stressful job afterward

>暗示我不会存钱然后去找一份更轻松/压力更小的工作

Let me guess, he wasted all his money stupidly?

让我猜猜，他愚蠢地浪费了所有的钱吗？

>>109573864

> modern software

> 现代软件

> bugs and weekly updates

> 错误和每周更新

> flat design with rounded corners

> 带圆角的平面设计

It's like when they said employees should do the "basic" job of administrators, secretaries etc.

就像他们说员工应该做行政人员、秘书等“基本”工作一样。

It only created a inefficient mess with heavy maintenance cost and of course outsourcing the parts that actually require technical knowledge.

它只会造成低效的混乱，维护成本高昂，当然还外包了实际需要技术知识的部件。

>>109577544

The S&P 500 has like 5.5x'd itself since the 2008 crash. Literally all you had to do as a big tech guy was put a portion of your money into that and you'd be set for life.

自 2008 年崩盘以来，标准普尔 500 指数已经上涨了 5.5 倍。从字面上看，作为一个大型科技公司，你所要做的就是将一部分钱投入其中，然后你就可以终身受益了。

>>109577618

But there are already companies that do annual performances reviews and fire out the bottom rung, it's just not good practice because it fosters an extremely paranoid workforce who don't work together but rather try to screw each other over.

但已经有一些公司进行年度绩效评估并解雇底层人员，这并不是一个好的做法，因为它培养了一支极度偏执的员工队伍，他们不一起工作，而是试图互相欺骗。

>>109577818

I don't understand how these things work if everyone just pools their money into the same pit.

我不明白如果每个人都把钱集中到同一个坑里，这些事情是如何运作的。

>>109577519

Are you too retarded to understand that 08/16/26(Sun)20:49:54 is after 08/16/26(Sun)14:46:05?

您是否太弱智以至于无法理解08/16/26(Sun)20:49:54是在08/16/26(Sun)14:46:05之后？

>>109573834

>25 years

>25岁

Retire bro.

退休吧兄弟

>>109577818

this isn't how real life works.

现实生活不是这样的。

>>109573834

Yeah I'm on the same path. This being said QA is just being a test monkey.

是的，我也在同一条路上。话虽这么说，QA 只是充当测试猴子。

I've only had one actual job interview in months and it was for something so highly paid and low level that I'm pretty sure all my former colleagues would have bombed the interview as well. I'm thinking of reconverting into Qt/QML desu.

几个月来我只接受过一次真正的工作面试，而且面试的薪资如此之高，级别却如此之低，以至于我很确定我所有的前同事也会轰炸这次面试。我正在考虑重新转换为 Qt/QML desu。

>>109577822

It also leads to managers intentionally hiring poor quality workers they can use to protect their good workers from being laid off.

它还导致管理者故意雇用质量较差的工人，以保护他们的优秀工人不被解雇。

>>109577649

Consumerist ethos dictates you must spend every single penny you've earned to live life to the "fullest".

消费主义精神要求你必须花掉你赚到的每一分钱来过“充实”的生活。

>>109577794

>pay big brain code genius SWE 250k-550k in total compensation including RSUs

>支付大脑代码天才SWE 250k-550k的总薪酬，包括RSU

>force him to spend 3/4 of his day NOT to leverage his expertise but instead be a glorified PM

>强迫他每天花 3/4 的时间而不是利用他的专业知识，而是成为一名光荣的 PM

What kind of corporate management strategy is this called?

这叫什么企业管理策略？

>>109574484

Which is ironic because if you want AI slop to come out good you need to do extra testing.

这很讽刺，因为如果你想让 AI slop 表现良好，你需要做额外的测试。

He probably had one of this high-sounding titles but he was just checking if buttons in Photoshop work on each release and making a list that said it works

他可能有一个听起来很冠冕堂皇的标题，但他只是检查 Photoshop 中的按钮是否适用于每个版本，并列出一个表明它有效的列表

>>109577856

What kind of management receives salary bonus for losses?

什么样的管理层会因亏损而获得工资奖金？

You only look at a partial picture, management agrees the money is better in their own pocket

你只看部分图片，管理层同意钱在他们自己的口袋里更好

>>109573883

Common User Access GUIs will come back in style, just wait. Everyone misses the file menu.

通用用户访问 GUI 将再次流行，只需等待。每个人都想念文件菜单。

>>109573883

From what I hear, designing a graphical program is easy but implementing it is not because popular cross platform GUI toolkits are ass or something. Or if there are good ones people don't know about / use them.

据我所知，设计一个图形程序很容易，但实现它并不是因为流行的跨平台 GUI 工具包很糟糕或什么的。或者如果有好的东西人们不知道/使用它们。

>>109577861

They don't care if it's good that's the issue

他们不在乎这是否好，这就是问题所在

>>109573834

honestly good for him, hope his new job being a bus driver brings him more happiness and less stress than a senior position at fucking Adobe of all companies

老实说，这对他有好处，希望他作为一名公交车司机的新工作比所有公司中他妈的 Adob​​e 的高级职位给他带来更多的快乐和更少的压力

>>109573834

I personally know a guy who used to work in gamedev (3d artist) and now drives a bus. and he can consider himself lucky. some of his laid-off buddies ended up worse.

我个人认识一个人，他曾经在 gamedev（3d 艺术家）工作，现在开公共汽车。他可以认为自己很幸运。他的一些下岗好友的下场更糟。

>>109577844

it does if you're not retarded with your money. I know plenty of tech boomers who retired at ~50.

如果你不花钱的话，确实如此。我认识很多科技婴儿潮一代，他们在 50 岁左右就退休了。

>>109573834

When a man reaches a certain age, cunny consumes him

男人到了一定的年龄，就会被狡猾的东西吞噬

>>109573834

Looks too white for IT.

对于 IT 来说看起来太白了。

>>109575029

Why tho? QA automation is pretty chill as it demands far less CS knowledge and pays only a bit below programmers

为什么呢？ QA 自动化非常酷，因为它需要的 CS 知识要少得多，而且报酬只比程序员低一点

>>109573834

the lesson is surely don't spend 25 years at the same company, you don't get rewarded for loyalty and will have a wider, more varied skillset which will make you more employable

我们得到的教训是，不要在同一家公司工作 25 年，你不会因为忠诚而得到回报，反而会拥有更广泛、更多样化的技能，这将使你更容易就业

>>109578943

He's over 35 and has a year long gap on his resume. He's never ever getting another tech job. Hiring managers will never even see his resume and at most places, not even HR or a recruiter will see it. Their filters will nuke him in under a second from when he hits the submit button.

他已经35岁了，简历上还有一年的空白。他再也找不到另一份技术工作了。招聘经理甚至永远不会看到他的简历，在大多数地方，甚至人力资源部或招聘人员也不会看到它。当他点击提交按钮后，他们的过滤器将在不到一秒的时间内对他进行核攻击。

>>109575231

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1786963917817902.png

>>109573864

I'm a dev myself, but some of the best QA people I've worked with over the years had a better understanding of the product than anyone else in the company and they were probably the people I trusted and relied on the most. some of them actually took charge of the product better than product owners, suggesting fixes, improvements, and new features and even talking to customers and investigating the competition

我自己是一名开发人员，但多年来与我合作过的一些最优秀的 QA 人员比公司中的其他任何人都更了解产品，他们可能是我最信任和依赖的人。他们中的一些人实际上比产品所有者更好地负责产品，提出修复、改进和新功能的建议，甚至与客户交谈并调查竞争对手

some of them were almost literally retarded on a level that a junior dev can never be, though

不过，他们中的一些人几乎完全落后于初级开发人员永远无法达到的水平

>>109573834

Meme role, of course he wont find a job. Should have written software instead of just tests.

Meme角色，他当然不会找到工作。应该编写软件而不仅仅是测试。

>>109573834

Yes, this is the new normal. Age and experience discrimination is real. The main reason is fear of disrupting the power balances of existing cliques. They also fear you more likely to push back on asinine stuff and are willing to high-ball and haggle a lot during job offer process.

是的，这是新常态。年龄和经验歧视是真实存在的。主要原因是担心破坏现有派系的权力平衡。 他们还担心你更有可能拒绝愚蠢的事情，并且愿意在工作机会过程中进行高调的争论和讨价还价。

Lazy OP reposting r*ddit shit.

懒惰的OP重新发布r*ddit狗屎。

>>109573834

>Is this normal to you?

> 这对你来说正常吗？

lol Yes. As a xoomer I've been in same situation, twice, and punted second time around. I've read whole thread. Let me clear up / confirm some things.

哈哈 是的。作为一名 xoomer，我曾经遇到过两次同样的情况，并且第二次下注。我已经阅读了整个线程。让我澄清/确认一些事情。

> Shouldn't he be retired by now

> 他现在不是应该退休了吗

You should plan to be economically free of employers ASAP, but certainly by the time you are in your mid-50s. Note I didn't say "not working" just not reliant on W2 wage work to pay any outstanding obligations. My boomer dad is still technically "working" but he's doing own lucrative things and enjoys it. But he was effectively "retired" in his 40s.

您应该计划尽快在经济上摆脱雇主的​​束缚，但肯定是在您 50 多岁的时候。请注意，我并没有说“不工作”，只是不依赖 W2 工资工作来支付任何未偿债务。我的婴儿潮一代父亲严格来说仍在“工作”，但他正在做自己有利可图的事情并且很享受。但他在40多岁的时候实际上已经“退休”了。

> Shouldn't be higher level that QA grunt by 50+?

> QA 的级别不应该比 50+ 更高吗？

Yes. Ideally he should be director, minimum, at this point in career. He got stuck in a dead end and basically never got out.

是的。理想情况下，在职业生涯的这个阶段，他至少应该担任导演。他陷入了一个死胡同，基本上永远无法摆脱。

> Shouldn't he take any job immediately

> 他不应该立即接受任何工作吗

lol no. His job was to hide his unemployment until he had another job. I've watch execs do amazing stretches of truth to look "employed" b/c any gap is resume poison. Also poison: Any job that's not on upward trajectory. Once "bus driver" is on your resume, HR just sees a bus driver, doesn't matter you had 25 years in tech.

哈哈，不。他的工作是隐瞒自己的失业情况，直到他找到另一份工作。我见过高管们为了看起来“受雇”而做出令人惊叹的事实，因为任何差距都是简历毒药。还有毒药：任何不处于上升轨道的工作。一旦你的简历上出现了“公交车司机”，HR 只会看到公交车司机，不管你有 25 年的科技经验。

> Shouldn't he have better contacts than this to get new job

> 他不应该有比这更好的人脉才能找到新工作吗

Hell yes, and if *you* don't, you need to start right now. Problem is, a lot of guys get into mindset that current job is forever and don't bother to network. Don't be those guys: have your own contacts at suppliers and competitors and always field legit recruitment calls.

是的，如果*你*不这样做，你需要立即开始。问题是，很多人都认为当前的工作是永远的，并且懒得建立人际网络。不要成为这样的人：在供应商和竞争对手中拥有自己的联系人，并始终接到合法的招聘电话。

>>109575231

Buddy I feel your pain. Ag work is the worst. All these tech bros talking about their subsistence farms. You and I know the truth: Farming Sucks.

朋友，我感受到你的痛苦。农业工作是最糟糕的。所有这些科技兄弟都在谈论他们的自给农场。你和我都知道真相：农业很糟糕。

> t. laid off twice on 12+ month gaps. Hid first one, second time moved into consulting and running ecommerce and just do those, now.

> t。两次被解雇，间隔超过 12 个月。隐藏了第一次，第二次进入咨询和运营电子商务领域，现在就做这些。

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>>109579232

> Chehalis WA

> 西澳奇黑利斯

LOL. Sold place in/near Redmond for a fortune, moved to middle of nowhere WA to farm geese, presumably nicely retired.

哈哈。以一大笔钱卖掉了雷德蒙德附近的地方，搬到了西澳偏僻的地方养鹅，大概已经退休了。

I hope he's happy...

我希望他幸福...

>Adobe

>as Senior Software Quality Engineer

>担任高级软件质量工程师

Oh come on now, the jokes write themselves.

哦，来吧，笑话自己写的。

I have a deep seated fear about this stuff.

我对这些东西有一种根深蒂固的恐惧。

I work for the government making a modest amount for what the industry usually gives.

我为政府工作，收入与行业通常的收入相当。

I truly hope that the whole "layoff" protection and "impossible to get fired" things are true for government work.

我真心希望整个“裁员”保护和“不可能被解雇”的事情在政府工作中是真实的。

My ambition has been destroyed by my turbulent life growing up. These kind of doomer news do get me even though they don't represent the true normal.

我的雄心壮志被我动荡的成长生活摧毁了。这些厄运新闻确实让我感到不安，尽管它们并不代表真正的常态。

I just want to be safe.

我只是想安全。

>>109576549

Correct. The tard you replied to is strawmanning or doesn't understand.

正确的。 你回复的那个迟钝者是稻草人或不明白。

>>109573864

Dogshit brains like you are the reason why shits is getting worse.

像你这样的狗屎大脑就是狗屎变得更糟的原因。

>>109573983

>Just get a 10x EVERY SINGLE TIME.

>每次都获得 10 倍。

>>109575231

fuck man, that is truly hell

他妈的，这真是地狱

>>109576203

>And I don't mean people who do node.js front and backend

>而且我不是指做node.js前端和后端的人

yeah because you would be employed if you knew how to do that

是的，因为如果你知道如何做到这一点，你就会被雇用

>>109579232

pretty based

相当基础

reminds me of this dude

让我想起了这个家伙

>got fired from IT in 2007 after 20 years

>20 年后于 2007 年被 IT 解雇

>liked to go boating

>喜欢划船

>talked with some fish farmers

>与一些养鱼户交谈

>idea.jpg

>buys into an existing small farm

>购买现有的小农场

>uses his tech know-how

>利用他的技术知识

>counting fish with computer vision instead manually

>用计算机视觉代替手动计数鱼

>using sensors to measure water oxygen and automating aeration (while others farm's fish just die)

>使用传感器测量水氧并自动通气（而其他养殖场的鱼只是死掉）

>now runs one of the biggest local fish farms

>现在经营着当地最大的养鱼场之一

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>>109580065

Blue collar work and mixing with tech is a dangerous combo.

蓝领工作和与科技的混合是一个危险的组合。

>>109573864

Software has become shittier and shittier as QA roles have been cut or baked into dev roles. Jeets and aisloppers have made it worse.

随着 QA 角色被削减或合并为开发角色，软件变得越来越糟糕。喷气式飞机和飞翔机让情况变得更糟。

It's gone so bad Microsoft felt forced to create a Chief of Quality role half a year ago

情况变得如此糟糕，半年前微软被迫设立了一个质量主管的职位

>>109580125

I don't think that one guy can fix the cow poop that has been and will continue to be stuffed in Windows by the jeet hordes of poopiloters, too uphill of a battle.

我不认为有人能够修复牛粪，因为牛粪已经并且将继续被成群结队的粪便驾驶员塞进窗户里，这太艰难了。

>>109580065

This guy understood how to get into a market and clean up by working smarter not harder.

这个人懂得如何通过更聪明而不是更努力的工作来进入市场并进行清理。

>>109580123

You have no idea.

你不知道。

Ever look at company and wondered how they make money while still being completely retarded, and think, if you did things the right way, how well would you do?

你是否曾经看过一些公司，想知道他们是如何在完全弱智的情况下赚钱的，并且想一想，如果你以正确的方式做事，你会做得怎么样？

I did same w/ operations stuff. US based manufacturing. I do quite well. All the smart executives I work with say "there's no money to be made in US based manufacturing." This means two things:

我也做了同样的操作。美国制造。我做得很好。与我共事的所有聪明的高管都说“美国制造业赚不到钱”。这意味着两件事：

> You can't do US manufacturing and be an idiot about it, you'll go bankrupt. They are right about that

> 你不能在美国制造，而对此却是个白痴，你会破产的。他们是对的

> I don't compete against anyone smart, they are busy working at retarded companies

> 我不与任何聪明人竞争，他们忙于在弱智公司工作

Win win.

赢赢。

>>109580123

>>109580319

there used to be a guy posting on hn years ago. I think he stopped somewhere around 2011. Most people were hyped around web frameworks and social startups. And then there was this guy, a bit older, not affected by the hype. He had specialized in solving problems for industrial clients. I remember he build some tool for logistics company to save real money by optimizing routes or an inventory management system for some factory

几年前，曾经有一个人在 hn 上发帖。我认为他在 2011 年左右就停了下来。大多数人都对网络框架和社交初创公司大肆宣传。然后还有一个人，年纪大一点，没有受到炒作的影响。他专门为工业客户解决问题。我记得他为物流公司建立了一些工具，通过优化路线或为某些工厂建立库存管理系统来节省实际资金

I always liked reading his stories. Solving real-world problems and not building the millionth social app

我一直很喜欢读他的故事。解决现实世界的问题而不是构建第一百万个社交应用程序

>>109573834

>opens up Claude Code

>打开克劳德代码

>do [X]

Why do I need Mr Strawn again?

为什么我又需要斯特朗先生？

>>109574378

Guy looks 70, he's better suited to driving a huge bus full of unruly children every day than typing some abstract bullshit into a text editor.

盖伊看起来 70 岁了，他更适合每天驾驶一辆满载不守规矩的孩子的大巴士，而不是在文本编辑器中输入一些抽象的废话。

>>109574018

maybe he just wants to work. a lot of people for some reason cant handle not working

也许他只是想工作。 很多人由于某种原因无法忍受不工作

>>109578930

>why

Because this

因为这个

>>109574802

Depends on the job function, but very often that is a yes. In particular in leadership and management positions.

取决于工作职能，但通常是肯定的。特别是在领导和管理职位上。

>>109575029

>this is what zoomers think the job market is like

> 这就是 Zoomers 认为的就业市场

lmao

>>109581385

They also think when you hit 30 your life is basically over.

他们还认为，当你到了30岁，你的生命就基本上结束了。

>>109577350

Even FAGMAN didn't pay 100k 25 years ago.

25年前连FAGMAN都没有付10万。

>>109581120

>Solving real-world problems and not building the millionth social app

>解决现实世界的问题而不是构建第一百万个社交应用程序

Most software is B2B

大多数软件都是 B2B

>>109577509

Shit happens in life. You get medical bills, kids, divorces, car payments, house repairs, etc. The worst financial events also usually happen when the market is down, so you can't take your money out or you get a double whammy, but you're forced to do this because you don't want to be homeless. This greatly reduces the real return you get. Also, it is totally unreasonable to blame a non-finance bro for blinking during the 2008 crash and getting out at the bottom, and other such events.

生活中总会有狗屎发生。你需要支付医疗费用、孩子费用、离婚费用、汽车付款、房屋维修费用等。最糟糕的财务事件通常也发生在市场下跌时，所以你无法取出钱，否则你会受到双重打击，但你被迫这样做，因为你不想无家可归。这大大降低了您获得的实际回报。此外，指责一个非金融界的兄弟在 2008 年股市崩盘和其他类似事件中眨眼、从谷底走出是完全没有道理的。

>>109577991

Another one of those overpaid bullshit jobs.

又一个高薪的垃圾工作。

>>109581120

The problem is this isn't how any of that has worked since after the 2000 recovery. It's not a question of will, you can't find someone to believe they need to solve the problem. You can find plenty of suckers who want a "digital transformation" or now an "AI transformation", though. Boomers had it easy. They were allowed to do useful things and get paid for it. They were allowed to show real numbers showing real margins improvement or real retention count or real revenue growth using their tools and this was an argument people would buy into. The economy doesn't at all work like this now, it's all based on speculation instead.

问题是，自 2000 年经济复苏以来，这一切都不是这样运作的。这不是意愿问题，你无法找到一个相信他们需要解决问题的人。不过，你会发现很多想要“数字化转型”或现在“人工智能转型”的傻瓜。婴儿潮一代过得很轻松。他们被允许做有用的事情并因此获得报酬。他们被允许使用他们的工具展示真实的数字，显示真实的利润率提高或真实的保留数量或真实的收入增长，这是人们会接受的论点。现在的经济完全不是这样运作的，而是完全基于投机。

>>109575231

That sounds brutal dude. I thought being a fast-food worker was bad. Not gonna lie though, it’s really interesting how you ended up in that situation, especially since it's a type of job so far from /g/. Could you tell more about it?

这听起来很残酷啊老兄。我认为当一名快餐工人很糟糕。不过，我不会说谎，你最终陷入这种情况真的很有趣，特别是因为这是一种远离 /g/ 的工作。您能详细介绍一下吗？

>>109581523

Working at fast food doesn't seem so bad. I don't understand why Americans hate it.

在快餐店工作似乎并没有那么糟糕。我不明白为什么美国人讨厌它。

https://youtu.be/Mm4VxyMutaw

>>109577844

It is, though. As long as you save the biggest portion of your salary and plan. Of course, you can also choose to be one more brick on the wall and live by spending 95% of your salary every month.

但确实如此。只要你把工资和计划的最大部分存起来。当然，你也可以选择多做墙上的一砖，每月花掉工资的95%过日子。

>>109573864

QAtards dont write shit either, its all set up on a neat pipeline by devops, they just click run and watch it go then take screenshots to pester me and send a whole project back because some junior's code was 0.00001ms off some retarded metric or muh code smells even if its squeaky clean and safe

QAtards 也不写狗屎，它都是由 devops 在一个整洁的管道上设置的，他们只需单击“运行”并观察它运行，然后截取屏幕截图来纠缠我并将整个项目发回，因为一些初级的代码比某些迟缓的指标慢了 0.00001 毫秒，或者即使它非常干净和安全，代码也有味道

>>109581559

You really think that's all you do in fast food work?

你真的认为这就是你在快餐行业所做的一切吗？

>>109581988

What the fuck else do they do other than preparing food?

他们除了准备食物还做什么？

>>109573983

>I have never worked a day in my life but the internet influencer man told me this was how things worked: the post

>我一生中从未工作过一天，但互联网影响者告诉我事情就是这样的：帖子

>>109582122

Dealing with customers, cleaning toilets, mopping floors, etc.

接待顾客、打扫厕所、拖地等。

>>109581559

Do zoomers really look at social media videos and think that's what everyday life is?

Zoomers 真的会在观看社交媒体视频后认为这就是日常生活吗？

>>109581448

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It's about his pride.

这是关于他的骄傲。

You can tell he always looked than on others working for less wage and he's struggling to comprehend that he wasn't any better than his "lessers".

你可以看出，他总是比其他人的工资更低，而且他很难理解自己并不比他的“下属”更好。

>>109574747

>zuckerberg

Dude lost billions on his ugly ass second life clone

这家伙在他丑陋的第二人生克隆身上损失了数十亿美元

>>109575231

Fuck, reminds me of a story a friend told me about how some rural school kids got sprayed with glyphosate during recess cause the school is next to some greedy retard's corn field.

操，让我想起一个朋友告诉我的一个故事，关于一些农村学校的孩子在课间休息时被喷洒草甘膦，因为学校毗邻一些贪婪的弱智的玉米地。

Also knew a girl who worked at a huge rice production doing quality control on the grains and would tell me how the laborers had to walk amongst the pesticides in the paddy water, she never ate rice again after that.

我还认识一个在大型稻米生产厂工作的女孩，负责谷物的质量控制，她会告诉我，工人们如何不得不在稻田水中的农药中行走，从那以后，她再也没有吃过稻米。

>>109576367

This mentality is what is leading to a collapse. Not just AI, but society as a whole. People are doing whatever it takes to "get theirs " when in reality it's only going to buy them a few months to a year of safety.

这种心态正是导致崩溃的原因。不仅仅是人工智能，还有整个社会。人们正在不惜一切代价“得到他们的”，而实际上这只能为他们带来几个月到一年的安全。

I honestly was always baffled by people who got into QA. I can't imagine anything would lead to it other than failing to get into a proper SWE path.

老实说，我总是对从事质量检查的人感到困惑。我无法想象除了未能进入正确的 SWE 道路之外还有什么会导致这种情况。

>>109576203

>There aren't many people who can admin the linux boxes, the database, the CI, write the software, orchestrate the deployment, and sell a product

>能够管理 Linux 机器、数据库、CI、编写软件、编排部署和销售产品的人并不多

If you join a startup you can definitely do that and run into people who do that. At big companies being completely cross functional like this is completely incongruous with their overall team structures. It's just not how development works at places like these.

如果你加入一家初创公司，你绝对可以做到这一点，并且会遇到这样做的人。在大公司，像这样完全跨职能与他们的整体团队结构完全不协调。这些地方的发展并不是这样的。

>>109575771

>software engineering equivalent of the guy holding up the SLOW sign at a construction site.

>软件工程相当于在建筑工地上举着慢速标志的人。

Fun fact, no one actually wants to hold up the SLOW sign at a construction site cause you're always in danger of some drunk retard or some stupid whore running you over.

有趣的是，实际上没有人愿意在建筑工地举起“慢行”标志，因为你总是面临着被某个醉汉或某个愚蠢的妓女碾过的危险。

>>109582541

100%. But telling that to retards like him is a waste of time. That's why they just kill people like him once things get bad enough.

100%。但对像他这样的弱智说这些就是浪费时间。这就是为什么一旦事情变得足够糟糕他们就会杀死像他这样的人。

>>109582618

Being 2 feet away won't make you safer.

保持 2 英尺的距离并不会让你更安全。

>>109582702

Society won't collapse because of some people not getting cushy office jobs with 6-figure salaries right out of college.

社会不会因为有些人大学毕业后没有找到薪水六位数的舒适办公室工作而崩溃。

>>109582743

>Completely misunderstanding the point

>完全误解了重点

Yet again, the boomer mentality never fails to amuse me.

再一次，婴儿潮一代的心态总是让我感到有趣。

>>109573834

Let me show you the list of new hires at Intuit, an "American" company. The Indian Hindu rape rat infestation of human civilization is going to prove to be an extinction even for our species unless we start genociding them real soon.

让我向您展示 Intuit 这家“美国”公司的新员工名单。印度教强奸鼠对人类文明的侵扰将被证明是一种灭绝，即使对我们物种来说也是如此，除非我们很快开始对它们进行种族灭绝。

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>>109577818

>he thinks most people don't have weak hands and pussy out at the smallest bear market

>他认为大多数人在最小的熊市中都没有软弱的手和胆怯

>>109573834

>>109582764

everything is very simple really,

一切真的很简单，

the jewish board of directors wants jobs taken away from the cattle, indians are low IQ enough to be good docile goys. A white man who would have just been finished with his computer science degree after they were told to learn to code during covid, now crushingly have to go back to whatever the fuck manual labor they used to do because of AI.

犹太董事会希望抢走牛的工作，印度人智商低到足以成为温顺的好人。一名白人在被告知在新冠病毒期间学习编码后，刚刚完成了计算机科学学位，但现在由于人工智能，他不得不回到他们过去所做的任何他妈的体力劳动。

So while christian goyim are chasing their tails like stabbed rats, years are ticking by, you are not getting married, you are not having children, you are seeking your next master because you cannot even conceive that you could be an employer yourself (that is just not a very christian way of thinking)

因此，当基督徒非犹太人像被刺伤的老鼠一样追着尾巴时，岁月在流逝，你没有结婚，你没有孩子，你正在寻找你的下一个主人，因为你甚至无法想象你自己可以成为一名雇主（这不是一种非常基督教的思维方式）

Answer is very simple, convert to Judaism. Marry a jewish woman, send kids to yeshivot, they will give you 10 grandchildren, at least you will go out like a winner.

答案很简单，皈依犹太教。娶一个犹太女人，把孩子送到犹太教，他们会给你10个孙子，至少你会像一个胜利者一样走出去。

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>>109582836

You forgot the part where Indian Hindus have only one skill: destroying any form of civilization they infest and replacing it with the rape, filth, and unimaginable savagery seen in India. When they destroy these tech companies, and the west with it, Israel will be flushed too. Hiring Indian invaders has always proven to be the destruction of every company that doesn't wake up in time.

你忘记了印度印度教徒只有一项技能：摧毁他们所滋生的任何形式的文明，并用印度常见的强奸、肮脏和难以想象的野蛮行为取而代之。当他们摧毁这些科技公司以及西方时，以色列也会脸红。事实证明，雇用印度入侵者对每家没有及时醒来的公司来说都是毁灭性的打击。

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>>109573983

>8 digit net worth

>8位数净值

more like low 7, retard

更像低7，延迟

>>109575380

>he doesn't have contacts or concepts and shit he can get on with for himself

>他没有自己可以相处的人脉、概念和狗屎

what, pray tell, do you think he would do? call up some programmer he met at work and go "hey, let's start up a company. you do all the dev work and i'll do the testing"? that's not how startups work. the qa dept is always the last thing that gets added to a team.

请告诉我，你认为他会做什么？ 打电话给他在工作中遇到的一些程序员并说“嘿，让我们开一家公司。你负责所有的开发工作，我来进行测试”？ 初创公司不是这样运作的。 质量保证部门始终是最后添加到团队中的部门。

>>109575664

i think you don't know what it means in today's ai world: a luddite is someone who refuses to jump on the ai bandwagon.

我想你不知道这在当今的人工智能世界中意味着什么：勒德分子是那些拒绝加入人工智能潮流的人。

>>109577509

he wasn't making $100K/yr in 2001

2001 年他的年收入还不到 10 万美元

>>109582757

What's your point then? Nobody's a mind reader here.

那你的意思是什么呢？这里没有人是读心者。

>>109577818

lol at you looking in the rearview mirror. if he had been in the s&p500 *before* the 2008 crash, it would have taken 5 years for him to climb back out of that hole.

哈哈，你看着后视镜。 如果他在 2008 年崩盘之前就已经加入了标准普尔 500 指数，那么他需要 5 年的时间才能走出困境。

>>109578919

no shit, sherlock. that's called the numbers game. i know plenty who retired and i also know plenty who did not. every industry is like this.

不废话，夏洛克。 这就是所谓的数字游戏。 我认识很多退休的人，也认识很多没有退休的人。 每个行业都是这样。

>>109582528

She better not eat anything except the food she hunts or gathers from the wild because everywhere is like that.

除了她在野外狩猎或采集的食物外，她最好不要吃任何东西，因为到处都是这样。

>>109578045

>What kind of management receives salary bonus for losses?

>什么样的管理层会因亏损而获得工资奖金？

every ceo that has ever existed.

曾经存在过的每一位首席执行官。

>>109583484

Some stuff is way more contaminated than the rest, like corn, onions, rice and oats for example. Wheat not so much compared to those.

有些东西比其他东西受到的污染要严重得多，例如玉米、洋葱、大米和燕麦。与那些相比，小麦没有那么多。

>>109583527

>onions

sòy

stupid word filter still going after all this time

愚蠢的单词过滤器一直在继续

How many years if /g/ away from retiring/semi-work?

如果/g/距离退休/半工作还有多少年？

>>109583534

same with cuck, moot got so assblasted about his cuckold fetish being exposed by his instagram thot that they had to implement word filters all over the place

与 Cuck 一样，moot 因他的戴绿帽子癖被他的 Instagram 曝光而受到如此大的批评，以至于他们不得不在所有地方实施文字过滤器

can't expect some epstein associate to think without using his tiny pecker I guess

我想，不能指望爱泼斯坦的同事在不使用他的小啄木的情况下思考

>>109582966

and the jews will gladly push the `short` button while they are running that shit into the ground so they profit either way, that has been the theme, and why they destroy the country then leave, United States is a massive frontier that will take several hundred more years to dismantle

犹太人会很高兴地按下“短”按钮，而他们正在把这些狗屎扔到地上，这样他们就可以从中获利，这就是主题，以及为什么他们摧毁了这个国家然后离开，美国是一个巨大的边境，需要数百年的时间才能拆除

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>>109579098

>Should have written software instead of just tests

>应该编写软件而不仅仅是测试

yeah, sure, so he could be an out-of-work programmer now instead of an out-of-work qa guy

是的，当然，所以他现在可以成为一个失业的程序员，而不是一个失业的质量保证人员

>>109574018

I don't understand this line of thinking. If anything, with LLM sloppification, we need more QAs. But I agree with you it's a trend, I just don't! understand why it exists, it's completely counter intuitive.

我不明白这种思路。如果说有什么不同的话，那就是法学硕士的马虎，我们需要更多的质量保证。但我同意你的观点，这是一种趋势，我只是不同意！理解它为什么存在，它完全违反直觉。

>>109582576

my brother started in qa, then moved into software dev. it's a legit path

我的兄弟从质量保证开始，然后进入软件开发。 这是一条合法的路径

>>109583654

MBA's want to turn human resources into convenient, universal units of labor. A unit representing a universal human employee capable of doing any task. Makes for easy modelling and stop labor monopolization.

MBA 希望将人力资源转变为方便、通用的劳动力单位。代表能够完成任何任务的通用人类雇员的单位。使建模变得容易并打破劳动力垄断。

So the software engineer became a full stack developer that could code anything.

因此，软件工程师成为了可以编写任何代码的全栈开发人员。

Then QA too. Then self-code review. Then the full stack dev got project manager tasks. Then product manager tasks.

然后也是质量检查。然后自我代码审查。然后全栈开发人员得到了项目经理的任务。然后是产品经理的任务。

>>109583604

>>several hundred more years to dismantle

>>再过几百年才能拆除

>hundreds of billions of dollars of fraud

> 数千亿美元的欺诈

>whites are a minority, so all productive output will drop down to nothing

>白人是少数，所以所有的生产产出都会下降到零

>used almost all of their missiles playing in the sandbox for their masters

>为他们的主人使用了沙盒中几乎所有的导弹

You think this welfare state will survive for hundreds of years?

你认为这个福利国家会存在数百年吗？

>>109573834

I was at Adobe, 15 years, laid off in August 25 too. My jeet manager protected the inferior h1b jeet with worse performance. Another jeet hired a less qualified jeet over me for another position there. The CEO is a jeet and of course the company has gone from white to brown. They also love that scamming creative cloud contract shit and don't care they've turned the company from a beloved artist staple (Flash days) to a dirty word on par with Microsoft

我在 Adob​​e 工作了 15 年，也在 8 月 25 日被解雇。我的jeet经理保护了性能较差的劣质h1b jeet。另一位杰特雇用了一位比我资质较差的杰特担任另一个职位。首席执行官是个杰特，当然公司已经从白色变成了棕色。他们还喜欢那些骗人的创意云合同狗屎，并且不在乎他们已经将公司从受人喜爱的艺术家主打（Flash days）变成了与微软同等的肮脏词

>>109574747

>'Published Jan 26 2025'

>“2025 年 1 月 26 日发布”

>>109573834

>Adobe

Good fucking riddance

好他妈的摆脱

>>109574378

He doesn't sound happy desu. Though I do imagine he'll grow to like the position after the tumultuous first year or two.

他听起来不太高兴。不过我确实相信，在经历了混乱的一两年之后，他会逐渐喜欢这个职位。

>>109583851

It's not the position. It's his ego couldn't accept that no one wanted him for tech roles.

这不是立场。他的自尊心无法接受没有人希望他担任技术职务。

>>109573864

Good. As a developer I don't want to do all that shit.

好的。作为一名开发人员，我不想做那些狗屎。

Now, where do you want the bullet?

现在，你想要子弹去哪里？

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>>109577861

Now morons pay for early access, to have the privilege to do the beta testing for free.

现在，白痴们为抢先体验付费，以获得免费进行 Beta 测试的特权。

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>>109579211

>lol no. His job was to hide his unemployment until he had another job. I've watch execs do amazing stretches of truth to look "employed" b/c any gap is resume poison. Also poison: Any job that's not on upward trajectory. Once "bus driver" is on your resume, HR just sees a bus driver, doesn't matter you had 25 years in tech.

>哈哈，没有。他的工作是隐瞒自己的失业情况，直到他找到另一份工作。我见过高管们为了看起来“受雇”而做出令人惊叹的事实，因为任何差距都是简历毒药。还有毒药：任何不处于上升轨道的工作。一旦你的简历上出现了“公交车司机”，HR 只会看到公交车司机，不管你有 25 年的科技经验。

Not only did he fail to realize this, but he actually broadcasted it on LinkedIn. Maybe he's so delusional that he thinks he can guilt someone into hiring him. Maybe he just wants pity.

他不仅没有意识到这一点，反而在LinkedIn上传播了这一点。也许他太妄想了，认为他可以让某人雇用他而感到内疚。也许他只是想要怜悯。

And why does he even need LinkedIn, now? To network with other bus drivers?

为什么他现在还需要 LinkedIn？与其他公交车司机建立联系？

Yeah, his education, his 25 years of SWE experience: down the toilet.

是的，他的教育背景，他 25 年的 SWE 经验：下厕所。

Any employer will look at this 60-pushing Xer and reasonably ask

任何雇主都会看着这个 60 推动的 Xer 并合理地询问

>if he's so valuable as an employee, why did he fail to get hired in almost two years and end up driving a bus

>如果他作为一名员工如此有价值，为什么他在近两年的时间里没有被录用并最终成为一名公交车司机

Should have gone the vanity startup route.

应该走虚荣的创业路线。

Certainly, if he's as skilled as he believes himself to be, shouldn't he be able to start a business pulling in bus driver money?

当然，如果他像他自认为的那样有技术，他难道不应该能够开办一家靠公交车司机赚钱的生意吗？

>>109574378

>good for him finding work is tough

>对他来说有好处，找工作很困难

People like this don't deserve any more sympathy than a lottery winner who squandered all their winnings.

像这样的人，并不比一个花光了所有奖金的中奖者更值得同情。

See >>109573983

This guy was making six figures for 25 years and still needs to work?

这家伙已经赚了 25 年的六位数收入了，还需要工作吗？

And clearly, he needs the job, otherwise he'd go the LARPtreprenuer route by starting a consulting business (which he apparently tried), or taking a year or two off to build something that you can sell.

显然，他需要这份工作，否则他会走 LARPtreprenuer 路线，创办一家咨询公司（他显然尝试过），或者花一两年的时间来打造一些可以出售的东西。

Once you get a job as a fucking BUS DRIVER, in your mid 50s, it's over.

一旦你在 50 多岁时找到了一份他妈的公交车司机的工作，一切就都结束了。

No tech employer will touch him with a ten foot poll.

没有哪个科技雇主会用十英尺的民意调查来触碰他。

Especially with his victim/persecution complex.

尤其是他的受害者/迫害情结。

>>109574484

ah so he just didnt want to use AI tools and there isnt a software company in the world not using them

啊，所以他只是不想使用人工智能工具，世界上没有一家软件公司不使用它们

so ofc hes pretending like its the corpo fault hes driving a bus when in reality hes rich as a pig

所以 OFC 他假装是公司的错，他在开公交车，而实际上他却像猪一样富有

>>109577350

Lottery winner ends up broke in the end; film at eleven.

彩票中奖者最终破产；十一点拍电影。

It's even more egregious, because at least the lottery winner knows that they got lucky, whereas, this budding boomer would probably tell you that he "worked really hard" and "did everything right" and that it's so unfair that he's where he is.

更令人震惊的是，因为至少彩票中奖者知道他们很幸运，而这个崭露头角的婴儿潮一代可能会告诉你，他“工作非常努力”并且“做的一切都正确”，而且他现在的处境太不公平了。

>>109573983

harsh but 100% correct. he obviously lucked out getting into software dev to begin with. making high 6 figs for 25 years... he really shouldn't have to work at all. That guy from FUTO literally made his 8 figure fortune from stocks and has basically been trying to give it away ever since. i mean, you're telling me he hasnt had one idea good enough to try out as a business? you dont even need a good idea. people STILL in 2026 are slinging b2b saasshit

严厉但100%正确。显然，他一开始就很幸运地进入了软件开发领域。 25 年里收入高达 6 位数……他真的根本不应该工作。 FUTO 的那个家伙确实通过股票赚了 8 位数的财富，从那以后基本上就一直想把它捐出去。我的意思是，你是说他还没有一个好主意可以尝试作为一项业务？你甚至不需要一个好主意。到了 2026 年，人们仍然在谈论 B2B saasshit

>>109573864

>>109573983

>>109573984

>>109574018

>>109584120

Slowly, the goalposts move until they become "White people just aren't allowed to have jobs when us Indian chads choose who to hire", doesn't it Rahjeesh?

慢慢地，球门柱移动，直到变成“当我们印度乍得选择雇用谁时，白人就不允许找到工作”，不是拉吉什吗？

>>109573834

Software isn't real. At least he's doing something that matters now.

软件不是真实的。至少他现在正在做一些重要的事情。

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>>109573983

why didn't you do it then

你当时为什么不这么做

>>109582300

Yup, exactly.

是的，完全正确。

>>109584120

>This guy was making six figures for 25 years

>这家伙 25 年来赚了六位数

Why do zoomers think this?

为什么zoomers会这么想？

QAs got the short end of the stick nowadays unfortunately. Management just doesn't understand that testing is a vital part of developing software. The managers think developers introduce bugs because they want to intentional sabotage the product and besides they have AI now to help them out so there shouldn't be any bugs to begin with.

不幸的是，现在的 QA 遇到了麻烦。管理层只是不明白测试是开发软件的重要组成部分。经理们认为开发人员引入错误是因为他们想故意破坏产品，而且他们现在有人工智能来帮助他们解决问题，所以一开始就不应该有任何错误。

>>109573834

Yes—either get with the times: take a risk—start a business—or perish.

是的——要么与时俱进：冒险——创业——要么灭亡。

>>109573834

these leftist cucks thought it was so funny when they were bullying laid off blue-collar workers with "lol learn to code"

这些左派混蛋以为他们欺负下岗蓝领工人时觉得这很有趣，“哈哈，学编程”

>>109573834

Why did he even look for a new job? 25 years at adobe he probably made more than a million dollars (maybe two). Just chill for a couple of years

他为什么还要寻找新工作？在 adobe 工作了 25 年，他的收入可能超过 100 万美元（也许是 200 万美元）。冷静几年

>>109583714

it will be totally get overrun by them, this is what happened in Poland and Ukraine (then Austro-Hungary) in 1700~ to Summer 1941.

它将被他们完全占领，这就是1700年至1941年夏天在波兰和乌克兰（当时的奥匈帝国）发生的事情。

>all city businesses, factories, bakeries, sausage plants, owned by jews - employees, also jews unless a job was dirty and very difficult then they hired a goy.

>所有的城市企业、工厂、面包店、香肠厂，都是犹太人所有的——雇员，也是犹太人，除非工作肮脏而且非常困难，然后他们雇佣了一个非犹太人。

>not a single jew working in a field or farm

>没有一个犹太人在田野或农场工作

>all owned gold, and paid "peasants" who came from surrounding villages and could not afford to live in a town/city

>所有人都拥有黄金，并支付来自周边村庄且无力在城镇/城市生活的“农民”

>hiter.jpg fast forward Ukraine taken over

>hiter.jpg 快进 乌克兰接管

>massive restrictions, pogroms, aktsiyas, concentration camps where they are forced to actually do work for once in their life

>大规模的限制、大屠杀、aktsiyas、集中营，他们被迫一生中只有一次真正工作

>to get out of concentration camps they bribe jewish-led committee (lol_ and they substitute them with poorer jews who cannot bribe their way out, so those go home, no food at home, with last shekels they buy food from peasants, to then just have crazed hooligans attack and steal the food

>为了离开集中营，他们贿赂了犹太人领导的委员会（哈哈_，他们用无法贿赂出路的贫穷犹太人来代替他们，所以那些人回家了，家里没有食物，他们用最后谢克尔从农民那里购买食物，然后疯狂的流氓袭击并偷走了食物

>quickly paradise they built for themselves with goyim surrounding them, started to turn into hell, all poor oppressed people during pogroms looted some of the gold, aktsiyas would lead to destruction of their libraries synagogues which were everywhere, businesses were closed, jews were taken out of cities and towns like kettle

>他们很快为自己建造了天堂，周围有非犹太人，开始变成地狱，所有受压迫的穷人在大屠杀期间抢劫了一些黄金，aktsiyas将导致他们的图书馆犹太教堂被毁，到处都是，企业关闭，犹太人像水壶一样被带出城镇

>cannot work - taken to the woods and shot in the mass grave, numbers were always inflated by the officers to look good, and to pass up very good numbers back to Germany, they would even have jews count the bodies, and told them to pad the number "better that way"

>无法工作 - 被带到树林里并在万人坑中枪杀，官员总是夸大数字以使其看起来不错，并且为了将非常好的数字传回德国，他们甚至会让犹太人清点尸体，并告诉他们“这样更好”

>1942.jpg pretty much left overs of jews remaining, all businesses plundered, local population taken over, soon soviets came back, so jews were a bit freer, but realized all was gone, and all started mass emigrating to New York.

>1942.jpg 几乎剩下了犹太人，所有的企业都被掠夺，当地居民被接管，很快苏联就回来了，所以犹太人更自由了一点，但意识到一切都消失了，所有人都开始大规模移民到纽约。

now they are doing here the same thing, slowly but surely growing their population at exponential rates, each Hassidic jew has 10+ kids, Rabbi said that they have surpassed the rate of how many jews there should have been if WW2 never happened

现在他们在这里做同样的事情，缓慢但肯定地以指数速度增长人口，每个哈西德派犹太人都有10多个孩子，拉比说他们已经超过了如果二战从未发生的话犹太人应该有的数量

>>109583714

So yeah they are doing the same thing here, they started with goldman sachs, now all banks are jewish, all american morgan stanley is now ran by jews, all hedge funds every board is jewish, whole government all politicians in every country are all jewish

所以是的，他们在这里做同样的事情，他们从高盛开始，现在所有银行都是犹太人，所有美国摩根士丹利现在都由犹太人经营，所有对冲基金每个董事会都是犹太人，整个政府所有国家的所有政客都是犹太人

they do not occupy a single manual labor role, i saw them work as engineers, store owners, businessmen, lawyers, doctors, designers etc. nobody is driving a tractor in the field, nobody is sitting at their computer coding (and if they do its for money). Accounting positions etc. and if shit like that were to happen again, they would again starve, they couldn't catch a fish, they couldn't plant a potato, they would literally starve or pay a goy to bring them food

他们不担任单一的体力劳动角色，我看到他们担任工程师、商店老板、商人、律师、医生、设计师等。没有人在田里驾驶拖拉机，没有人坐在电脑前编码（如果他们这样做是为了钱）。会计职位等等，如果这样的事情再次发生，他们会再次挨饿，他们抓不到鱼，他们无法种植土豆，他们实际上会挨饿或花钱请人给他们带来食物

He should have become a homesteader instead. Break free from his chains and embrace the solitary life.

他本应该成为一名自耕农。挣脱束缚，拥抱孤独的生活。

>>109584813

https://www.codesubmit.io/blog/the-evolution-of-developer-salaries

>Senior Software Quality Engineer

>高级软件质量工程师

>The quality of said software has been in freefall for a decade

>十年来，该软件的质量一直在直线下降

Yeah, I'm thinking don't hire this guy.

是的，我想不要雇用这个人。

>>109584512

Their entire worldview is shaped by post 2020 narratives. STEM and FAGMAN tech hype pushed the idea that everyone was getting 100K+ starting right out of college and they just extrapolate that to having always been normal.

他们的整个世界观都是由 2020 年后的叙事塑造的。 STEM 和 FAGMAN 技术炒作推动了这样一种观念，即每个人从大学一开始就获得了 10 万以上的成绩，他们只是推断这一直是正常的。

>>109584512

zoomers are retarded

变焦镜被延迟

>>109574378

All jobs suck in different ways, I’d rather get paid more unless the bullshit is absolutely intolerable or you are getting personally disrespected daily

所有的工作都以不同的方式糟糕，我宁愿得到更多的薪水，除非废话绝对无法容忍或者你每天都受到个人不尊重

>>109584091

>he actually broadcasted it on LinkedIn. Maybe he's so delusional that he thinks he can guilt someone into hiring him. Maybe he just wants pity.

>他实际上在LinkedIn上广播了它。也许他太妄想了，认为他可以让某人雇用他而感到内疚。也许他只是想要怜悯。

It's either that or he's truly given up and just plans to drive bus until he can pull retirement.

要么就是这样，要么他真的放弃了，只打算开公交车直到退休。

Some people (esp. older) seem to legit just want to stay busy. Jobs like WalMart greeters, I assume (hope) that those folks just want out of the house and into the community doing something, anything... that they don't actually need the money.

有些人（尤其是年纪较大的人）似乎只是想保持忙碌。像沃尔玛迎宾员这样的工作，我认为（希望）这些人只是想走出家门，进入社区做一些事情，任何事情……他们实际上并不需要钱。

>>109584091

Missed this:

错过了这个：

>Should have gone the vanity startup route.

>应该走虚荣的创业路线。

He could literally just work on contract to any of a number of shops, 100pct remote, and make more than a bus driver. Companies dngaf about contractor age, b/c there's no age discrimination possibilities there.

他实际上可以与多家商店中的任何一家签订合同，而且距离 100% 偏远，收入比公交车司机还要多。公司对承包商年龄很重视，因为那里不存在年龄歧视的可能性。

He could work for a contract shop, which takes a cut, or place himself and make pretty much whatever he wants.

他可以在一家合同店工作，这会收取一定的佣金，或者自己安排工作，几乎可以做任何他想要的东西。

And any reasonable startup would, also, make more than driving bus. Making bus driver money within eCommerce is something you can do, part time, while looking for work and contracts. Or some dumb app that solves a problem if that's his skillset.

任何合理的初创公司的收入也不仅仅是驾驶公共汽车。在寻找工作和合同的同时，您可以在电子商务中兼职赚公交车司机的钱。或者一些愚蠢的应用程序可以解决问题（如果这是他的技能）。

These guys obv infuriate me. They are their own biggest barrier to success.

这些家伙显然激怒了我。他们自己就是成功的最大障碍。

>>109586367

That's not true at all. My dad is a contractor, had to early-retire at 56 because of age discrimination after the job market crunch caused the bank he worked out to downsize it staff.

这根本不是真的。我父亲是一名承包商，由于就业市场紧缩导致他工作的银行裁员，他不得不在 56 岁时提前退休，因为年龄歧视。

>>109573834

>Software Quality Engineer

>软件质量工程师

This is codeword for QA

这是 QA 的代码字

My last org called QA "Test Engineers"

我的上一个组织称为 QA“测试工程师”

QA is the most replaceable software role

QA 是最可替代的软件角色

>>109582836

>convert to Judaism

>皈依犹太教

Is this even possible? Jews accept goyim into their ranks?

这可能吗？犹太人接受非犹太人加入他们的队伍吗？

>>109576580

He's probably just waiting to turn 59 so he can get his 401k money without any taxes

他可能只是在等待 59 岁生日，这样他就可以免税拿到 401k 的钱

>>109586899

It is and it happens. You can even go crazy and lie your way in. Accept a free birthright trip for shits and giggles. There's nothing stopping you.

确实如此，而且确实发生了。你甚至可以疯狂地撒谎进去。接受一次免费的与生俱来的权利旅行，享受狗屎和咯咯的笑声。没有什么可以阻止你。

>>109586899

Always have, except the hassidim whom everyone think are crazy and worse than mudshits. It's even in the talmud.

总是有，除了哈西德派，每个人都认为他们是疯子，比泥巴狗更糟糕。甚至在塔木德中也有记载。

Why is life so hard bro.

兄弟，人生为何如此艰难。

>>109587125

Because you aren't lying, cheating, and stealing your way through it like successful people do.

因为你不会像成功人士那样撒谎、欺骗和偷窃。

>>109573834

If the entire industry ghosted him, then he most likely fucked up extremely badly.

如果整个行业都对他心存芥蒂，那么他很可能会搞砸得很厉害。

>>109586899

Yeah, but it's like getting a job via showing up at some work place, you have to show up like 10 times asking if there's an empty position until they get tired of your ass and say yes.

是的，但这就像通过出现在某个工作场所来找到工作一样，你必须出现大约 10 次询问是否有空缺职位，直到他们厌倦了你的屁股并说有。

You gotta stop by the synagogue all the time and bother the rabbi until he gets tired of your goy ass and accepts giving you classes at the yeshiva.

你必须一直在犹太教堂停下来打扰拉比，直到他厌倦了你的混蛋并接受在犹太学院给你上课。

Then you're looking at like 3 years minimum of studying, the books aren't cheap and you gotta learn hebrew to start with to understand the rest, that's why no one bothers unless they're some natural born kike trapped in a goy's body.

然后你就需要至少三年的学习时间，这些书并不便宜，你必须先学习希伯来语才能理解其余的内容，这就是为什么没有人会费心，除非他们是天生的被困在异教徒身体里的孩子。

>>109582743

>society won't collapse because people aren't able to get jobs with livable wages lolz

>社会不会崩溃，因为人们无法找到工资足以维持生计的工作，哈哈

Do you even listen to yourself?

连你自己都听听吗？

>>109583861

>it's just an ego problem when a qualified candidate can't get work because all the jobs are given to h1bs

> 当合格的候选人找不到工作时，这只是一个自我问题，因为所有工作都给了 h1bs

You're not even trying.

你甚至都没有尝试。

>>109579761

I know how to do everything. I'm a contractor. I am the opposite of Mr. Adobe QA. I do a different thing every time. I've worked in depth with 8 different SQL databases, several you've probably never heard of like c-treeACE. I can take an idea and turn it into a live website running on a kubernetes cluster all by myself.

我知道如何做每件事。我是一名承包商。我与 Adob​​e QA 先生相反。我每次都做不同的事情。我深入研究过 8 个不同的 SQL 数据库，其中有几个您可能从未听说过，例如 c-treeACE。我可以自己将一个想法变成一个在 kubernetes 集群上运行的实时网站。

If I worked full time for a company, and I have before, they would insist I work in one little silo and just sit there waiting for incompetent people in other silos to catch up to me.

如果我在一家公司全职工作（我以前也这么做过），他们会坚持让我在一个小筒仓里工作，然后坐在那里等待其他筒仓里无能的人来追上我。

>>109582599

I'm like a startup in a box essentially anon. Companies hire me to move their mountains. Then I document it and they pass off the pieces to their incompetent silos.

我基本上就像一个盒子里的初创公司。公司雇用我来搬山。然后我将其记录下来，他们将这些碎片传递给他们无能的孤岛。

>>109574249

>There's no job too shit for me, I've done everything

>没有什么工作对我来说太糟糕了，我已经做了一切

This is both inspirational and sad, I'm 30 and I never had a job in my life, I look down on slave jobs, but I also admire them. I have no life experience and I'm afraid to apply for a job, the worst part is that I have probably more money and a better setup than 80% of /g/. But I lack basic skills, I can't even drive.

这既鼓舞人心又令人悲伤，我已经30岁了，我一生中从未有过工作，我看不起奴隶工作，但我也钦佩它们。我没有生活经验，我害怕申请工作，最糟糕的是我可能比 80% 的 /g/ 有更多的钱和更好的环境。但我缺乏基本技能，连开车都不会。

>>109587368

or just marry in like "Christian" trump's children and all the other satan-worshipping politicians and their satanic spawn

或者只是像“基督徒”特朗普的孩子和所有其他崇拜撒旦的政客及其撒旦的后代一样结婚

that crackhead hunter biden (future US president btw) was kvetching about antisemitism and crying about his kike wife and children recently

那个疯子猎人拜登（顺便说一句，未来的美国总统）最近对反犹太主义感到不满，并为他的基克妻子和孩子哭泣

>>109575231

>Me standing in knee high corn, the tallest thing in an open field, in an electric storm, flooded up to my ankles, with a rainbow slake of pesticides swirling around my feet

>我站在齐膝高的玉米地里，那是开阔地里最高的东西，在一场雷暴中，洪水淹没了我的脚踝，彩虹般的农药残渣在我的脚边旋转

i didn't know being a scarecrow paid 7$/hr

我不知道当稻草人每小时要付 7 美元

>>109581559

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2TETZM0o8o

>>109587125

It’s not you just have to adjust your ambitions and expectations more often. Have kids and set them up to achieve the ambitions you couldn’t. Try to die before they disappoint you

这并不是说你需要经常调整你的抱负和期望。生孩子并帮助他们实现你无法实现的抱负。在他们让你失望之前尝试去死

>>109579211

>His job was to hide his unemployment until he had another job. I've watch execs do amazing stretches of truth to look "employed"

>他的工作是隐瞒自己的失业情况，直到他找到另一份工作。我见过高管们为了看起来“受雇”而做出令人惊叹的事实

How do you "hide" the gap? Wouldn't your resume just say worked from X company from 20XX-20XX and clearly show a gap from then until the present

如何“隐藏”差距？你的简历不是只写了20XX年-20XX年在X公司工作，并且清楚地显示了从那时到现在的差距

t.nontechworker-zoomie

>>109577408

Don't you have bus to drive?

你没有公交车可以开车吗？

*honk honk*

*按喇叭*

>>109578310

designing a graphical program is easy yes, but designing a GOOD graphical program is not

设计一个图形程序很容易，是的，但是设计一个好的图形程序并不容易

>>109587368

>3 years of studying

>3年学习

>gotta learn hebrew

>必须学习希伯来语

I wish I was half as smart and educated as my enemies think I am

我希望我有敌人认为的一半聪明和受过教育

>>109590627

I had a 5 year gap and got hired at fagman

我有 5 年的空档期并被 fagman 录用

Just lie.

只是撒谎。

And if they ask you to prove it just say you can't.

如果他们要求你证明这一点，就说你不能。

It literally doesn't matter.

从字面上看这并不重要。

>>109590627

It's common, especially at higher levels, for the company to agree say you were at the company for a period after you are let go.

在你被解雇后，公司同意说你在公司工作了一段时间，这是很常见的，尤其是在高层。

>>109590627

There are a bunch of ways. Main one this this >>109591756 which is called garden leave pejoratively. Basically company pays you but you don't work there anymore. It can run an entire fiscal year.

有很多方法。主要的这个这个>>109591756 贬义的叫园假。 基本上公司付钱给你，但你不再在那里工作了。它可以运行整个财政年度。

Also, consulting. Start a company, now you are employed. Maybe actually work. Idk.

另外，咨询。开一家公司，现在你已经就业了。也许真的有效。我不知道。

Straight up lie about it. Im shocked how many execs do this.

直接撒谎。我很震惊有多少高管这样做。

Many others, but those are ones I know.

还有很多其他人，但这些是我所知道的。

>>109573834

> QA

Most of the needful is being done in India now, saar

萨尔现在大部分需要的工作都在印度完成

>>109584512

but i have been making six figures for 15 years, straight out of college too lol

但我大学刚毕业就已经赚了六位数了 15 年了，哈哈

>>109595677

Yet you're spending your free time here with us losers. No amount of money can help you escape this.

然而你却在这里和我们这些失败者一起度过你的空闲时间。无论多少钱，都无法帮助你摆脱这个困境。

>>109595677

>15 = 25

Yeah I'm gonna call your larp there zoomie. Don't forget to do your homework today.

是的，我要把你的larp称为zoomie。今天别忘了做作业。

>>109573834

>Software Quality Engineer

>软件质量工程师

Fake job

假工作

>>109595756

why are you assuming i'm trying to escape anything? i've been on 4chan since 2004

你为什么认为我试图逃避什么？我从 2004 年就开始使用 4chan

>>109595817

? but i haven't been making six figures for 25 years, only 15. sorry, not getting your point

？但我已经 25 年没有赚到六位数了，只有 15 年。抱歉，没明白你的意思

you both sound extremely jelly though lol

你们俩听起来都非常果冻，哈哈

>>109595892

>X didn't happen

> X 没有发生

>haha I did Y which is not X

>哈哈我做了Y，但不是X

>X is not Y

>X 不是 Y

>? But I didn't do X

>？但我没有做X

Congrats, your IQ is less than 20.

恭喜你，你的智商低于20。

>>109595905

you're saying you find it unbelievable that i could possibly be employed for another ten years? that seems unreasonable, which means you're probably compensating for something, which is probably your extraordinary jealousy.

你是说你难以置信我还能再受雇十年？这看起来不合理，这意味着你可能正在补偿某些东西，这可能是你非凡的嫉妒心。

>>109595922

Sorry for overestimating your IQ.

抱歉高估了你的智商。

>>109579232

Clearly retired, you fucking idiot.

明显退休了，你这个白痴。

>QA

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1787150402554820.jpg

>>109596109

why are u so buttmad

你为什么这么生气

>>109573834

>Adobe

>QA

So he'd been stealing a paycheck for 15 years.

就这样他偷了工资15年了。

>>109577408

>the heckin' line must go up!

> 该死的队伍必须上升！

>>109577388

They likely paid an enormous redundancy amount.

他们可能支付了巨额裁员费用。

>>109596527

L-lol? Underageb&?

哈哈？未成年b&?

>>109579280

*hugs*

WAGMI anon

瓦格米匿名

Lots of fear online, best not to come here more than once a month

网上有很多恐惧，最好每月不要来这里超过一次

>>109573834

Anyone who could work at Adobe for that long is obviously a useless twat. His "resume" and "job title" are meaningless.

能在 Adob​​e 工作这么久的人显然是个没用的笨蛋。他的“简历”和“职务”毫无意义。

>>109573834

Not so bad. He finally landed a real job after a lifetime of misdeeds

还不错。经过一生的罪恶之后，他终于找到了一份真正的工作

>>109577388

Most people genuinely don't know their rights as an employee and big companies count on you being totally ignorant of what you're entitled to. This guy could have sued the pants off Adobe.

大多数人确实不知道自己作为雇员的权利，大公司指望你完全不知道自己有权享受什么。这家伙本来可以起诉 Adob​​e 的。

Although I do have to ask why this guy, after 25 years at the company, wasn't in a management position.

尽管我确实想问为什么这个人在公司工作了 25 年之后却没有担任管理职务。

>>109573834

Turns out not a lot of people value the highly prestigious enshittification overseer role

事实证明，并没有多少人重视享有盛誉的实事化监督者角色

>>109587001

you can take it out when youre 55 as well, as a one-time thing

当你55岁的时候你也可以把它拿出来，作为一次性的东西

>>109598104

>rights as an employee

>作为雇员的权利

>right-to-work state

>工作权状态