/cyb/+/psg/: Cyber-Punk/Security & Privacy

>>109253724

"The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those that speak it."

“社会离真理越远，就越会痛恨那些说出真理的人。”

--George Orwell

——乔治·奥威尔

>Cyberpunk

The FAQ: https://archive.is/mkDpa

What is /cyb/erpunk?: https://pastebin.com/pmn9vzWZ

How do I into /cyb/erpunk?: https://pastebin.com/5tpNFQds

Huge list of cyberpunk media: https://archive.is/6pQt6

The cyberdeck: https://pastebin.com/7fE4BVBg

Cyberlife: https://jinteki.industries/files/cyberlife.7z

Bibliothek: https://www.mediafire.com/folder/4m5hd2065hde8/Bibliothek

>Networks

Tor: https://www.torproject.org/download/

I2P: https://i2p.net/en/

Freenet: https://www.hyphanet.org/

>Privacy

Tools: https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/

Hardware: https://ryf.fsf.org/products

Frontends: https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Privacy_friendly_frontends

OSINT Guide: https://inteltechniques.com/index.html

Firmware: https://libreboot.org/

RMS on Facebook: https://stallman.org/facebook.html

Have I Been Pwned: https://haveibeenpwned.com/

>Security

"Shit just got real": https://pastebin.com/rqrLK6X0

Cybersecurity basics: https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Cybersecurity_-_/sec/_guide

Basics and armory: https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Cybersecurity_-_basics_and_armory

Learning/News/CTFs: https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Cybersecurity_-_Learning/News/CTFs

/sec/ PDFs: https://mega.nz/#F!zGJT1QQQ!O-8yiH845GN26ajAvkoLkA

EFF Surveillance Self-Defense: https://ssd.eff.org/

Other library: https://mega.nz/file/UCgEGAjb#rwNcnMAQCUUbSp8supsFvn9QEHCWUW86eLcZa16ZG4Y

Updated Data Broker Removal Links:

更新后的 Data Broker 移除链接：

https://pastebin.com/cDbDXQvh

https://pastebin.com/raw/cDbDXQvh

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785185485393422.jpg

>>109387207

>Recommended operating systems

>推荐的操作系统

General purpose: Debian, Fedora, Arch Linux, Xubuntu, Linux Mint

通用型：Debian, Fedora, Arch Linux, Xubuntu, Linux Mint

Security focused: Qubes OS, Whonix, Tails, OpenBSD

安全型：Qubes OS, Whonix, Tails, OpenBSD

>Recommended mobile operating systems

>推荐的移动操作系统

Android based: GrapheneOS, CalyxOS, LineageOS

基于 Android：GrapheneOS, CalyxOS, LineageOS

Linux based: postmarketOS, PureOS

基于 Linux：postmarketOS, PureOS

>Recommended browsers

>推荐的浏览器

Chromium based: Brave, Chromium (ungoogled)

基于 Chromium：Brave, Chromium (ungoogled)

Firefox based: Waterfox, Zen Browser, LibreWolf, Tor Browser

基于 Firefox：Waterfox, Zen Browser, LibreWolf, Tor Browser

Firefox with Zero user.js: https://pastebin.com/4qVUGU9S

>Advanced content blocking

>高级内容拦截

https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Blocking-mode:-medium-mode

>Browser tests

>浏览器测试

https://www.deviceinfo.me

https://dnsleaktest.com

https://librespeed.org

https://time.gov

>Recommended search engines

>推荐的搜索引擎

Brave Search, SearXNG, DuckDuckGo, Startpage

勇敢搜索、SearXNG、DuckDuckGo、Startpage

>Privacy oriented DNS

>注重隐私的 DNS

https://adguard-dns.io/en/welcome.html

https://nextdns.io

https://quad9.net

>Privacy oriented email

>注重隐私的电子邮件

Proton Mail, Tuta, Mailbox Mail, Riseup, Disroot

Proton Mail、Tuta、邮箱邮件、Riseup、Disroot

>Recommended instant messengers

>推荐的即时通讯工具

Signal, SimpleX Chat, Briar, Element

Signal，SimpleX 聊天，Briar，Element

>BIOS replacement

>BIOS 替换

https://coreboot.org

https://libreboot.org

>Resources

https://www.privacyguides.org

https://ssd.eff.org

https://ryf.fsf.org/products

https://haveibeenpwned.com

https://inteltechniques.com/workbook.html

https://eldritchdata.neocities.org

https://stallman.org/facebook.html

Threadly reminder to check out Fisheye Placebo for more cyberpunk goodness.

主题提醒：去看看 Fisheye Placebo 更多精彩赛博朋克内容。

>Vance just wanted to make the most out of his college experience under a totalitarian regime, and if that meant hacking into the university to assign himself a hot female roommate, then so be it. The last thing he expected was to be dragged into a crazy conspiracy to overthrow the government by his most-definitely-not-female roommate.

万斯只想在极权统治下尽可能充实地度过大学生活，如果这意味着要黑进大学系统给自己分配一个火辣的女性室友，那也没办法。他万万没想到，自己会被这位绝对称不上女性的室友卷入一场推翻政府的疯狂阴谋之中。

Archive

Chapter 1 Part 1

第一章 第一部分

https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/138433030/

Chapter 4 Part 7 (latest)

第四章 第七部分（最新）

https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/145447092/

https://www.yuumeiart.com/fisheye-placebo-chapters

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785185689949175.png

Do you think building child soldiers enhanced with cybernetics is truly that evil? I liked the concept of Gunslinger Girl

你觉得那些经过赛博改造的儿童士兵设定真的那么邪恶吗？我很喜欢《枪姬》的概念

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785190279274157.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdysioncGUA

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785191396990969.jpg

certs

How we feeling about this?

大家对这个怎么看？

https://arstechnica.com/culture/2026/07/first-teaser-for-apple-tvs-neuromancer-debuts-at-sdcc/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g79GPZSQHBk

>>109388325

maybe theyll do the whole Sprawl trilogy, throw burning chrome in after as a prologue

也许他们会把整个“分裂 trilogy”三部曲都搬出来，再加个《燃烧的铬》作为序章

>>109388325

I don't care. I have been listening to the audiobook read by Gibson himself on youtube. It's pretty kino.

我无所谓。我一直在YouTube上听吉布森本人朗读的有声书。挺硬核的。

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785195923369833.jpg

>>109388128

Certs are for pussies. Real men hack because its the manly thing to do.

考证书是给弱鸡用的。真正的男人黑客是因为这很爷们。

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785196649888193.jpg

>>109388128

are for getting your foot in the door or the linkedin circlejerk

（证书）不过是用来混个面试机会或者在领英上自嗨圈子里骗人的

I noticed privacytools.io revamped their website so it's not a complete joke anymore. How do we feel about this vs privacyguides.org now?

我注意到 privacytools.io 改版了他们的网站，不再像个笑话了。现在大家怎么看它和 privacyguides.org 的对比？

>>109389239

you asked this same question verbatim a week ago

你一周前原封不动问过这个问题

Do you people read espionage books? Any suggestions?

你们有人看间谍小说吗？有什么推荐？

>>109387207

As if larp + certs wasn't enough...

就像LARP（角色扮演）+ 证书还不够似的……

The bump limit in this board is 310, you newfag.

这个版面的置顶上限是310，你是新来的菜鸡。

>>109389392

309 is the last post that can bump a thread, which is literally when OP posted

第309楼是最后一个能顶起帖子的回复，也就是楼主发帖的那楼

>>109389495

I see. I haven't tested that, but even in that case, it was not absolutely necessary to make a new thread at 309 posts.

我明白了。我没测过那个，但就算那样，在帖子数达到309的时候也没必要非得开新帖。

Nice way to give some attention to this dead general, though. I'll give the OP that.

不过确实给这个死版带来了点关注，这点我承认楼主操作不错。

>>109388771

He is such a based guy. Zoomers would never

他真是个够硬汉的家伙。千禧一代（Zoomers）绝对做不出来

>the compute farms that currently run crypto mining operations will soon pivot to running massive swarms of thousands of open source LLM agents that constantly look for vulnerabilities in common software and carry out fully autonomously attacks on random open ports on the internet 24/7

>那些目前运行加密货币挖矿的算力农场，很快将转向运行海量的开源LLM智能体集群，全天候24/7不断寻找常用软件的漏洞并对互联网上随机的开放端口执行全自动攻击

A decade from now, exposing a port to the internet for any reason will be unsafe due to AI. It's over.

十年后，出于任何原因将端口暴露给互联网都会变得不安全，因为AI的存在。完了。

>>109390013

hello maladjusted sperg

你好啊，精神失调的处男

>>109391312

Hello!

>>109389239

>Go to privacytools

>去 privacytools 网站

>Click on ISP snooping

>点击 ISP 窥探

>First two suggestions are two of the most shilled VPN services

>前两条建议是两个被疯狂吹捧的VPN服务

>Third one is a honeypot

>第三个是钓鱼陷阱

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785233595667990.jpg

>>109388325

The teaser was a cliche fest like we have seen too many times. And therein lies the second problem: Neuromancer has already been pillaged by scriptwrites for soon 40 years and what Neuromancer launched was fresh then but not today. The scriptwriters have a tall mountain to scale.

那个预告简直陈词滥调大集合，我们早就看腻了。这也引出了第二个问题：《神经漫游者》这个IP在过去近40年里早就被烂编剧们掏空了。当年《神经漫游者》推出时确实够新鲜，但现在可不行。编剧们面临着要翻越的崇山峻岭。

>>109391701

>>Third one is a honeypot

>>第三个是钓鱼陷阱

nice proof

不错的“证据”

>>109387207

The federal agent illegally surveilling me keeps posting dinosaur videos via backdoors all throughout my social media feed

那个非法监视我的联邦特工正通过后门把我社交媒体时间线塞满恐龙视频

>>109392039

kek dinosaur videos? Why is that?

kek 恐龙视频？为啥是这个？

>>109392039

meds, now

吃药吧，现在

>>109392039

>keeps posting dinosaur

>还在发恐龙视频

Peanuts.

When I first got the opportunity to turn off targeted advertising, Google responded viciously: all website I visited having Google controlled ads were loaded with revolting ads for gay dating sites. And I could not use ad blocking at work so I could never do any web lookup with any colleagues nearby. It took about a month before ads returned to something less disgusting.

我第一次有机会关闭定向广告时，Google 反应极其恶劣：我去过的所有包含 Google 控制广告的网站，都充满了令人作呕的同性恋约会网站广告。而且我在公司不能用广告拦截插件，所以我根本没法在同事旁边做任何网络搜索。过了大概一个月，广告才变得稍微不那么恶心。

>>109387934

>Cybernetic weapons

>赛博武器

Honestly? It's really stupid. Wearables and biotech will almost always beat out embedded machinery. The human body's security system makes the stuff you see in sci-fi very difficult. It's far easier to build exoskeletons rather than surgically rebuilding a humans skeleton.

说实话？这真蠢。可穿戴设备和生物技术几乎总是会胜过内置机械。人体的免疫系统会让科幻片里的东西变得非常难实现。造外骨骼比通过手术重建人类骨骼要容易得多。

Even if you were to have a perfect embedded cybernetic system. Your always going to be one step behind the curve. New tech is coming out every day, the technological process in the modern age across the total lifespan of a human is far too wide a gap to cross with one procedure. After 20 years you will be stuck with a toaster strapped to the side of your head.

哪怕你装了一套完美的内置赛博系统，你也永远会落后于时代。新技术每天都在涌现，现代技术迭代的速度和人类整个生命周期的跨度相比，差距太大，单靠一次手术根本跨不过去。20年后你头上侧边粘着的可能只是个烤面包机。

See RFID biohackers circa 2012.

看看 circa 2012 年那些 RFID 生物黑客。

>sews phone sized antenna key into hand

>把手机大小的天线钥匙缝进手掌里

>Yo! I can unlock my car with my hand, I'm like Iron Man bruh! Get rekd :3c

>哟！我能用手解锁汽车了，我就是钢铁侠啊老铁！被碾压了吧 :3c

>A decade later, we all pay with NFC and have RFID key fobs.

>十年后，我们大家都用 NFC 支付，还有 RFID 车钥匙。

Great for farming karma, terrible for actual daily use.

刷 karma（论坛声望）很棒，但实际日常使用很烂。

>>109394296

NTA but Pentagon has a wish list already.

NTA（你不是坏人），但五角大楼已经有愿望清单了。

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785263680266379.gif

>>109394296

>The human body's security system makes the stuff you see in sci-fi very difficult. It's far easier to build exoskeletons rather than surgically rebuilding a humans skeleton.

>人体的免疫系统会让科幻片里的东西变得非常难实现。造外骨骼比通过手术重建人类骨骼要容易得多。

Yeah which is a shame as that is only building our replacements.

是啊，这太可惜了，因为那只是在制造我们的替代品。

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785271013540801.jpg

>>109394762

>tougher bodies

>更强壮的身体

>...thanks to a shot of estrogen

>……靠一针雌激素

Didn't they just announce free TRT for troops? lmfao

他们不是刚宣布给士兵免费提供 TRT（替代疗法）了吗？哈哈哈

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785273938223970.jpg

>>109396136

With the new management, troops will get acces to testosterone and peptides. What could possibly go wrong?

在新管理层下，士兵们将接触到睾丸酮和肽类。能出什么乱子呢？

>>109396160

How about steroids?

类固醇怎么样？

>>109396331

The new policy seemns to be "bring it on!" We will then be able to see the long term effects of these drugs.

新政策似乎是“尽管放马过来！”这样我们就能看到这些药物的长期影响。

>>109394762

I am surprised they didn't add improved eye sight to that list.

我真奇怪他们没把改善视力加到那个清单里。

>>109395737

Note that a lot of prosthetics are worn rather than being surgically implanted.

注意很多假肢是佩戴的，而不是手术植入的。

If EEG reading or other brain scan tech in general continues to improve, the surgical process of embedding fibers like neuralink will eventually become obsolete.

如果脑电图或其他大脑扫描技术持续改进，像 Neuralink 那样嵌入光纤的手术过程最终将被淘汰。

>>109396699

Boot camps have been testing grounds for a long time. A major factor in why solders get lifetime medical checkups isn't "for the good of the troops" it's to keep tabs on their bloodwork and long study the long term effects of biological and chemical agents.

训练营早就被用作试验场了。士兵们享有终身体检的一个重要原因不是“为了部队的利益”，而是为了监控他们的血液指标并长期研究生物和化学制剂的长期影响。

(See Edgewood)

（参见埃奇伍德项目）

>>109387934

>Luxurious cars, going all over the world on trips, getting a cute fratello. They are living the life

>豪华轿车，周游世界旅行，还有个可爱的兄弟。他们过得好爽啊

Is life working for the Italian secret service really this comfortable compared to working for american or brittish glowies?

为意大利情报部门工作真的比给美国或英国那帮“幽灵”（glowies）干活舒服这么多吗？

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785285483002863.jpg

What are you developing this week, anon?

匿名者，这周你在开发什么？

>>109398703

Probably work more on the timeline:

大概会在时间线上再多花点功夫：

https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Cyberpunk_Timeline

>>109400456

nice

>>109400456

Excellent work, anon!

干得漂亮，匿名者！

Do security camera systems belong in this thread or is it just cybersecurity?

安防摄像头系统算这个主题的吗？还是只搞网络安全？

I need to find an NVR with loads of 2.5 inch bays

我得找个带大量 2.5 英寸盘位的海康 NVR

>get new fiber connection at home

>在家装了新光纤

>want to change the visible wifi name of it

>想改一下可见的 WiFi 名称

What should I put that looks boring and doesn't draw any attention?

我该填点什么看起来无聊且不引人注意的？

Should I also change the passwords they gave me? I think I will keep those as they are on that card under the router.

我是不是也该改改他们给我的密码？我觉得就保留路由器下面那张卡上的原样吧。

附件: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785350016486733.webm

Can hackers hack something and not get caught in 2026?

在 2026 年，黑客还能黑了东西而不被发现吗？

>>109401139>>109401485

Thanks. There is still plenty of work left and 2026 is not filled in yet. There is a new round of GitS but people are rather negative about the latest show.

谢了。还有好多活要干，2026 年还没填完呢。GitS 新一轮来了，但大家对最新那一季的评价挺负的。

>>109404642

You can do it, I believe in you, anon!

你能行的，我相信你，匿名者！

>>109403697

"Home Wi-Fi" would be the most ordinary and mundane, imo

“家庭Wi-Fi”在我看来是最普通、最平凡的

>Should I also change the passwords they gave me?

>我也应该改一下他们给我的密码吗？

Yes, but write it somewhere else and keep it safe in case your forget

是的，但要把密码记在别处，妥善保管，以防你忘了

>>109403697

use a password manager and make a strong password

使用密码管理器并设置一个强密码

>>109404149

there are lots of poorly secured things on the internet

网上有很多安全做得很烂的东西

>>109404149

No, and if you try I will personally report you to the cyber police.

不，如果你敢的话，我会亲自向网络警察举报你。

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785375583358082.png

Do you think lisp is a good language?

你觉得Lisp是一门好语言吗？

>>109407472

I hear it's pretty good.

我听说它挺不错的。

>>109407472

for what?

为了什么？

>>109388325

Cyberspace is lot more surreal in Neuromancer than people tend to think

《神经漫游者》里的赛博空间比人们通常认为的要更加超现实

It's really a drug movie

这 really 是一部迷幻电影

>>109408658

William Gibson mentioned once he had take drugs. John Shirley used a LOT of drugs before he cleaned up. So he might have gotten som inspiration from various trips.

威廉·吉布森曾经提过自己曾吸毒。约翰·雪莉在戒毒前用了很多毒品。所以他可能从各种迷幻经历中获得了一些灵感。

>>109408813

I am surprised how they openly talk about using drugs and aren't prosecuted, like Stephen King who said he used cocaine when writing The Shining. I am surprised by the Hollywood actors too doing all sort of things that would get the blue collar man in jail.

我很惊讶他们能公开谈论吸毒而没有被起诉，比如斯蒂芬·金说他在写《闪灵》时吸了可卡因。我也很惊讶好莱坞演员们做各种让蓝领工人入狱的事。

>>109407472

It's a good language for academia and a great way to test the basic logical operations but for hacking, assembly and C keep being the kings

这是一门适合学术界的好语言，也是测试基本逻辑运算的好方法，但对于黑客、汇编语言和C语言来说，它们仍然是王者

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785415118852094.png

whoever bmed mayara, this is my session id 05857a6e6ef0bdb977fa6189a4895e8fde0cf5ed5d7d25301847d07ab92ee87b56

不管是谁黑进了mayara，这是我的session id 05857a6e6ef0bdb977fa6189a4895e8fde0cf5ed5d7d25301847d07ab92ee87b56

please get in touch, i need to talk.

请联系我，我需要谈谈。

>>109409550

>I am surprised how they openly talk about using drugs and aren't prosecuted, like Stephen King who said he used cocaine when writing The Shining.

>我很惊讶他们能公开谈论吸毒而没有被起诉，比如斯蒂芬·金说他在写《闪灵》时吸了可卡因。

Gibson and Shirley wrote about what they did years before, might be hard to prosecute, especially as Shirley is now super clean, in fact it is a miracle he survived.

吉布森和雪莉是在多年前写的关于他们做的事情，可能很难起诉，尤其是雪莉现在已经完全戒断了，事实上他能活下来简直是个奇迹。

>I am surprised by the Hollywood actors too doing all sort of things that would get the blue collar man in jail.

>我也很惊讶好莱坞演员们做各种让蓝领工人入狱的事。

Ah yes, privileges for the elite. Just as in the very recent eBay scandal, the leaders go free, their underlings are facing jail time.

啊，是的，精英阶层的特权。就像最近的eBay丑闻一样，领导层逍遥法外，他们的下属却面临入狱。

>assembly

Man of culture. And 6502 has a special position, pic related.

文化人。而且6502有其特殊地位，如图所示。

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785419663843191.jpg

>>109409550

An admission of personal drug use isn't prosecutable if it's so vague there's nothing to investigate.

如果对个人吸毒的承认含糊其辞，没有什么可以调查的，那就不可起诉。

>>109409960

>load

>store

>load

>store

How tf do you kill people with this?

你他妈怎么用这个杀人？

>>109410129

By storing bullets in their bodies? I feel like I'm missing the joke here.

通过在他们的体内存储子弹？我觉得我漏掉了笑点。

What do you think are things worth working on as an aspiring cyberpunk in the modern world?

你认为作为一名现代世界的 aspiring cyberpunk（赛博朋克爱好者/从业者），哪些事情值得去做？

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>>109410173

Anon, copying shit around isn't enough to do computations.

Anon，四处复制粘贴不足以进行计算。

>>109390295

shame nobody ITT notices that aside you and me

真可惜，这帖里没人注意到除了你和我之外

it will be fun times, governments will try and implement some sort of control for the internet, namely I think TPM modules and digital ID but it will not be enough so governments will create more drastic measures, firstly segmenting internet into regions (europe region, us region, latin american region, african region, asia+russia region....) but eventually the real solution will come into a form of a new internet. It will be decentralized and not enforced by governments but found out by hackers who want to break away. Then governments will have no choice but adopt it

接下来会挺好玩的，政府会试图对互联网实施某种控制，我猜是TPM模块和数字身份，但这还不够，所以他们会采取更激烈的措施，首先是将互联网分割成不同区域（欧洲区、美国区、拉美区、非洲区、亚洲+俄罗斯区……），但最终真正的解决方案会以一种新互联网的形式出现。它将是去中心化的，不由政府强制执行，而是由想要脱离控制的黑客们构建出来，到那时政府将别无选择，只能采纳它

>>109410550

The first part is about setting up 3 16-bit variables on the zero page, the real work happens in AUXMOVE.

第一部分是在零页设置3个16位变量，真正的工作发生在AUXMOVE里。

>>109410719

Nah, descentralized would still need a port so it will still fall to AI

得了吧，去中心化仍需要端口，所以最终还是会被AI掌控

>>109403697

you can have a hidden wifi. It is basically the same as normal wifi it just doesn't announce its SSID to everyone and everything. You do have to know "it is there" to connect to it. So maybe have a QR code of the wifi on the fridge or something.

你可以设置隐藏Wi-Fi。它和普通Wi-Fi基本一样，只是不向所有人广播SSID。你得知道“它在那儿”才能连接。所以也许把Wi-Fi的二维码贴在冰箱上之类的。

>>109403697

>What should I put that looks boring and doesn't draw any attention?

>我该放什么看起来枯燥且不会引人注意的东西？

Use a name like printer-53.

用个像printer-53这样的名字。

>>109394762

I would definitely enjoy no longer needing sleep desu.

我绝对会喜欢不再需要睡觉的日子desu。

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>>109411669

Only dreaming anchors us to the divine. I'd rather pick the unihemispheric route and stay connected all the time. You know, like in these double exposure psychoses where you do your wakey stuff and explore Kadath at the same time.

只有梦境将我们与神性锚定在一起。我宁愿选择单半球睡眠路线，时刻保持在线。就像那种双重曝光的精神病状态，你一边做清醒时的事情，一边去探索卡达斯。

>>109394762

Exoskeletons would be pointless without resistant skin

没有抗冲击皮肤，外骨骼就毫无意义

>>109411669

How close are we to the world of edgerunners?

我们离《边缘行者》的世界还有多远？

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>>109413829

Definitely the neurochip will bring it to life.

神经芯片绝对能让它活过来。

So if I wanted to start hacking implants, what should be the first step?

那如果我想开始黑植入体，第一步该做什么？

>>109391701

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>>109411669

Current TMS tools are not precise enough to properly target the limbic system without effecting the surrounding area. Its like performing brain surgery with a shotgun.

现在的TMS工具精度不够，没法精准定位边缘系统而不影响周围区域。就像拿猎枪做脑外科手术。

Know your target and what's behind it.

要了解你的目标，以及它背后有什么。

Pumping the brain full high power wake up pulses has some adverse side effects.

往脑子里灌高功率唤醒脉冲会有一些副作用。

TMS has a lot of potential if they can properly nail it to the floor without hitting major legal road bumps. Depending on the operator and the precision of the machine a lot of psychological problems could be repaired. On the other hand a lot of damage could be caused.

TMS潜力很大，只要他们能精准落地，不撞上重大的法律障碍。取决于操作者和机器的精度，很多心理问题都能被修复。但另一方面，也可能造成大量损害。

The best way to use it would be low power and only effect areas if the brain closest to the skull imo. The Frontal Lobe and Cerebellum are far better candidates for TMS modification. Remapping the motor cortex, increasing creativity etc.

我觉得最好的用法是低功率，只影响大脑靠近颅骨的区域。额叶和小脑更适合做TMS改造。重新映射运动皮层、提升创造力之类的。

>>109415156

become a plastic surgeon

去当个整形医生。

>>109413829

Too close.

太近了。

It's already cringe when I was at a venue weeks ago. It comes off as roleplaying.

几周前我在一个场馆里见过，已经够尬了。这看起来就像在角色扮演。

Then again, so does the nuclear family shit.

不过话说回来，那种“核家庭”模式也是一样。

Nobody feels real anymore, they just larp. I might as well just talk to AI at this point.

没人再感觉真实了，大家都在LARP。到这份上我还不如去跟AI聊天。

I've I'm gonna larp, I'm gonna larp as a fucking pirate on a clipper ship.

要是真要LARP，我就他妈LARP成个开快速帆船的海盗。

aaaaaaargh me 'artys.

啊啊啊啊，老子的心脏宝贝儿。

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>>109417805

Nah just electronics and robotics.

不，就电子和机器人那块。

I already know people in this exact area that were hyper autists with body parts and robotics. You have to be obsessed though. It's not easy. That guy's a genius too.

我认识这领域里的人，都是对肢体和机器人特别痴迷的超级自闭怪。但你必须得痴迷才行，这不容易。那家伙也是个天才。

>>109417838

I honestly find AI far more enjoyable compared to 90% of the people around me. I want to train AI to learn anon lingo, then I'll finally be free.

说实话，我觉得AI比身边90%的人都好玩多了。我想训练AI学会匿名版黑话，那样我终于自由了。

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>>109387934

No, as a matter of fact I demand my own government issued robowaifu

不，事实上我要求政府给我发一个官方机器人老婆。

>>109410719

It sounds like wishful thinking to me. Glowniggers are breaking apart the internet because it makes them itchy. Any mirage of a deeper, more natural reason for it is just a rationalization. And when they're done with it, there will be no return to normality and no miraculous hackernet, just like no miraculous hacker airline appeared to replace legacy infrastructure in twenty five years since they arbitrarily decided to punish free movement by making flighs prohibitively humiliating. When evil destroys something beautiful, it's broken forever.

在我看来这只是一厢情愿。那些“Glowniggers”在拆散互联网，因为这让它们浑身发痒。任何关于背后有更深层、更自然原因的幻象，都只是合理化解释。等它们搞完，就不会恢复正常，也不会有什么奇迹般的“hackernet”，就像二十五年来，自从它们武断决定惩罚自由出行、让坐飞机变成一种令人难堪的羞辱之后，也从未出现什么奇迹般的“黑客航空”来取代老旧基础设施一样。当邪恶摧毁了美好的东西，它就永远碎了。

Do you think it'd be doable to become as good as Wozniack or Torvalds in this day and age?

你觉得在当今这个时代，有没有可能变得像Wozniack或Torvalds那么厉害？

>>109420825

With llms maybe

也许靠LLM行。

>>109420825

Sure.

Though only a handful are willing to put in even half the effort it takes to reach that level. Kling is probably there.

不过愿意付出到达那种水平所需一半努力的人，也就那么几个。Kling大概已经到了。

>>109420825

To what end? Emacs is already written, there's nothing left to do in this world.

图啥呢？Emacs已经写好了，这世界上没啥可做的了。

>>109421345

GNU Emacs will only be complete once it's rewritten in GNU Guile.

GNU Emacs只有用GNU Guile重写一遍才算完整。

>>109421386

Or Rust!

或者用Rust！

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Probably bait but then again we are on page 6...

大概是在钓鱼，但话说回来咱都到第6页了……

>>109421345

>To what end?

>图啥呢？

People working for a living will have noticed that we really, really need

靠工作谋生的人会注意到，我们真的真的很需要——

- a better OS -- perhaps SerenityOS will do

——一个更好的操作系统——也许SerenityOS能做到

- a better windowing system -- something looking like OPenWindows and with pie menues and gestures.

——一个更好的窗口系统——长得像OpenWindows，带饼形菜单和手势那种

- a better browser -- chrome looks OK but is a privacy nightmare, LadyBird might get there

——一个更好的浏览器——Chrome看着还行但隐私是噩梦，LadyBird可能有机会

- a better mail client -- Outlook is a mess and Thunderbird ran into the weeds

——一个更好的邮件客户端——Outlook一团糟，Thunderbird也跑偏了

>Emacs is already written, there's nothing left to do in this world.

>Emacs已经写好了，这世界上没啥可做的了。

It is a halfway decent OS but still needs an editor.

它算个半像样的操作系统，但还缺个编辑器。

>>109422138

>- a better OS

>——一个更好的操作系统

Why? Linux is perfect as it is

为啥？Linux已经完美了。

>- a better windowing system

>——一个更好的窗口系统

Make it part of the OS

把它做成操作系统的一部分。

>- a better browser

>——一个更好的浏览器

Not really, make it part of the OS. Hell, make the browser the OS.

真没必要，做成操作系统的一部分就行。靠，干脆让浏览器就是操作系统。

>- a better mail client

>——一个更好的邮件客户端

Mail is overrated and obsolete, go irc + tor or go home.

邮件被高估了，已经过时，要么用IRC加Tor，要么就回家去。

>>109422367

>Why? Linux is perfect as it is

>为啥？Linux已经完美了。

No. It lacks the reliability of VMS. It has accumulated a lot of cruft, and the ABI/API promise means they cannot get rid of it. A flag day would have helped but that is not on the cards. I follow LWN and from the pictures I get the feeling the main programmers are all turning into greybeards. I hope they don't stagnate yet.

不。它缺VMS那种可靠性。它积累了一堆陈年垃圾，而ABI/API的承诺意味着他们没法甩掉这些。来个“清算日”会有帮助，但不在计划内。我订阅了LWN，从那些照片上感觉主要程序员都在变成白发老头。我希望他们别就此停滞。

Linux is also a lot slower than KolibriOS (which just had a new release). VMS had continuing fine tuning and de-bloating.

Linux也比KolibriOS慢多了（后者刚出了新版本）。VMS一直在做持续调优和瘦身。

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>>109422367

>>- a better windowing system

>>——一个更好的窗口系统

>Make it part of the OS

>把它做成操作系统的一部分

WinNT did, not sure it made it better in any way. Also, plenty of features are missing, and most look ugly as sin. And who thought wobbly windows was a good idea??

WinNT这么干过，没见它变得更好。而且，很多功能缺失，多数看起来丑得要命。谁想出的“抖动窗口”这种馊主意？？

>>- a better browser

>>——一个更好的浏览器

>Not really, make it part of the OS. Hell, make the browser the OS.

>真没必要，做成操作系统的一部分就行。靠，干脆让浏览器就是操作系统。

How does this make sense?

这怎么说得通？

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>>109411170

I like this.

我喜欢这个想法。

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>>109422367

>>- a better mail client

>>——一个更好的邮件客户端

>Mail is overrated and obsolete, go irc + tor or go home.

>邮件被高估了，已经过时，要么用IRC加Tor，要么就回家去。

I work for a living, I need email that I can archive and search back through many years. At work we have Outlook. It is gigantic but still awkward. And the interplay between notes, Onenote and Teams is a total mess.

我得靠这个吃饭，我需要能归档并搜索很多年的邮件。工作用的 Outlook 又大又笨。笔记、OneNote 和 Teams 之间的配合简直一团糟。

>>109423259

>I work for a living

>我得靠这个吃饭

>can't dedicate 100% of his time to hack

>没法把100%时间都花在折腾黑客上

ngmi.

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>>109423259

>Tfw I have to be a full on dataslut for work

>每次上班我都得当个彻头彻尾的数据婊子

I thought I would have some freedom in this shit when my skillset became rarer. but no.

我以为技能变得稀有后我在这破事里能有点自由。结果没有。 ⁠⟧ 操，我真想给自己当老板。看来暂时只能尽量把个人和工作的东西分开。

God damm I want to be my own boss. Guess I'll just have to keep my shit separate as best I can in the meantime.

真他妈的想自己当老板。看来在那之前，我最好还是尽量把自己的事儿分开处理。

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>>109423259

irc is a wasteland and not worth your attention

IRC 已经成废土了，不值得关注。

>>109388325

So some people say Neuromancer isn't really worth reading that other books like Snow Crash are better. Is this true?

有些人说《神经漫游者》其实不值得读，像《雪崩》这类书更好。是真的吗？

>>109424590

Yeah, Neuromancer was the first but all in all it's shit. Read Mind Burn instead

对，《神经漫游者》是开了先河，但总体就是垃圾。读《脑燃》吧。

>>109424590

snow crash is actually very good esp if you know a bit about sumerian culture and history

《雪崩》确实很好，尤其是你对苏美尔文化和历史略懂一点的话。

>>109424687

the whole swarm trilogy is good if you can suspend expectations and give yourself to it, but gibson is not big on character development more just terse scenes with a lot of inference in dialog so to speak

整个蜂群三部曲都很好，只要你能放下期待、投入进去。但吉布森不太着重人物发展，更多是简短场景加大量潜台词对话那种风格。

I'm thinking Graphene might be a bit extreme for me.

我在想 Graphene 对我来说可能有点太极端了。

If I get a normie phone, install a firewall, run it through a pihole, and don't install junkware, is that enough to keep big tech from following me around? Let's forget about the FBI for a moment.

如果我买个普通手机，装个防火墙，走 pihole，不装垃圾软件，这样够不够让大科技公司不追踪我？先不提 FBI。

>>109408813

I've noticed that the general behavior of Case is like a junkie trying to stay sober, and the cyberdecks aren't really anything like computers. You can ONLY use them to jack into cyberspace, they're like drug paraphernalia.

我注意到 Case 的整体行为像个努力戒毒的瘾君子，而且那些赛博台根本不像电脑。你只能拿它们接入赛博空间，就像吸毒工具一样。

>>109426188

anyone can get into an android phone whether it's graphene or android and ios is the same. companies literally sell access to 0day for any of them.

任何人都有可能黑进安卓手机，不管是 Graphene 还是原版，iOS 也一样。公司直接就把 0day 访问权卖给任何类型。

>>109424536

>I thought I would have some freedom in this shit when my skillset became rarer. but no.

>我以为技能变得稀有后我在这破事里能有点自由。结果没有。

Can confirm. I have some rather specific skillsets that are appreciate by my clients but not by my employer.

可以确认。我有些比较特定的技能，客户挺看重，但雇主不看重。

>God damm I want to be my own boss. Guess I'll just have to keep my shit separate as best I can in the meantime.

>操，我真想给自己当老板。看来暂时只能尽量把个人和工作的东西分开。

I might go that route. AI is changing my line of work fundamentally and it is obvious for anyone who has bothered to look. Just yesterday I reviewed some AI products based on some input from me. It filled in all the blanks and the mistakes were few and insignificant. Last year it was not usable, more like the result of an hopped up over eager junior with a loose grip on reality, and the year before it was more the results of a really bad trip. Management has only the vaguest idea about the enormity of what is coming, and it is like they are discussing next year's designs for sails while people are quietly installing steam turbines in their ships. I am beginning to wonder if they are planning to escape it all by retiring. I have some ideas about better turbines, to follow this metaphor, but management thinks it will be sails all the way, just made from better canvas.

我可能会走那条路。AI正在从根本上改变我的工作方式，这一点只要愿意看的人都看得出来。就在昨天，我根据自己的一些输入审查了一些AI产品，它把所有空白都填上了，错误又少又不重要。去年这东西还没法用，更像是打了鸡血、对现实把握不准的毛头小子做出来的，前年则更像是嗑药磕大了的产物。管理层对即将到来的巨大变革只有最模糊的认识，简直就像人们在船上悄悄安装蒸汽轮机的时候，他们还在讨论明年的帆设计。我开始怀疑他们是不是打算靠退休来逃避这一切。我对更好的轮机有些想法，借用这个比喻来讲，但管理层觉得会一路用帆，只是用更好的帆布而已。

I remember years ago, reading history and wondered how people could possibly have failed to understand the changes that were coming, but now I am in the middle of an even larger change.

我记得很多年前读历史的时候，想知道人们怎么可能就看不懂即将到来的变化，但现在我自己正处于一个更大的变化之中。

>>109426191

John Shirley metioned once that Case is based on him, so your observation is probably true.

约翰·雪莉曾提过凯斯是以他为原型写的，所以你的观察很可能是对的。

Molly is based on Chrissie Hynde for her looks, plus another woman that Gibson and Shirley knew, but it is not generally known who she was.

莫莉的外形原型是克莉西·海恩德，再加上另一个吉布森和雪莉认识的女性，但她的身份一般不为外人所知。

>>109426188

There’s drone surveillance, WiFi heat mapping and the ability to turn brainwaves into text. You’re living in a surveillance prison, hopefully you dont get noticed, used and fucked with. The types who go into surveillance aren’t the type of people you want to be around or associate with. You can get to a level where someone uses backdoors in public places playing music.

有无人机监控、WiFi热力图，还有把脑电波变成文字的能力。你活在一個监控监狱里，希望你不会被注意到、被利用、被耍弄。搞监控的那类人不是你想待在一起或打交道的那种人。你能到某个程度，有人会利用公共场所播放音乐的后门。

>>109424536

>I thought I would have some freedom in this shit when my skillset became rarer.

>我以为我的技能变得稀缺之后，在这种烂环境里能有点自由。

I thought I would have some freedom in this shit when my skills became rarer.

我以为我的技能变得稀缺之后，在这破事儿里能有点自由。

Now your post uses the words correctly. As a bonus, you come across as less pretentious. You're welcome.

现在你这条帖子里用词算是用对了。作为奖励，你显得没那么装逼了。不客气。

>>109427603

You come across as pretentious.

你显得挺装逼的。

>>109427434

Any chance to stop that? WIll we need Magneto like helmets?

有办法阻止那个吗？我们需要万磁王那样的头盔吗？

>>109427792

Probably, also just don’t stick out - this mainly includes positive traits.

大概吧，但主要就是别太显眼——这主要包含正面特质。

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>>109427434>>109427792

Turning brainwaves into actionable data requires either super sensitive devices in screened rooms or sensors embedded inside the brain, Neuralink style.

把脑电波变成可操作的数据，要么需要屏蔽室里的超灵敏设备，要么需要植入大脑内部的传感器，也就是Neuralink那种方式。

Helmets will not be required for the foreseeable future.

在可预见的未来，不需要戴头盔。

>>109427603

What is wrong about splitting skills into separate sets?

把技能拆成独立几组有什么不对的？

>>109423312

How is life as a NEET going? And what goal are you dedicating your life to?

啃老生活怎么样？你又打算把人生奉献给什么目标？

>>109410365

Becca is probably the most influential cyberpunk figure in modern media. Particularly since gits proved to be such a failure.

贝卡可能是现代媒体中最有影响力的赛博朋克人物，尤其是《攻壳机动队》被证明那么失败之后。

>>109424590

>So some people say Neuromancer isn't really worth reading

>所以有人说《神经漫游者》真的不值得读

It is well worth reading, especially as it defined the genre. What was new in that book very quickly became cliches as others stole relentlessly and shamelessly from the Spral Trilogy.

它非常值得读，尤其是因为它定义了整个类型。那本书里的新东西很快就变成了陈词滥调，因为别人从《蔓生三部曲》里拼命地、毫不客气地偷。

>that other books like Snow Crash are better. Is this true?

>还说《雪崩》之类的书更好。这是真的吗？

Snow Crash is from the second wave of Cyberpunk. It is also good but very different. It is long, sprawling in all directions and has Stephenson's trademarked problems in ending a story in a way that doesn't feel like an out of control train going full tilt into the end stops at a terminal. His "short" stories such as "Hack the Spew" and "Jipi and the Paranoid Chip" have the same problems.

《雪崩》是赛博朋克第二波浪潮的作品。它也很好，但风格非常不同。它篇幅长，向四面八方铺展开来，而且有斯蒂芬森标志性的问题——结尾收得不像一辆失控的火车猛冲进终点站。他的“短”篇如《Hack the Spew》和《Jipi and the Paranoid Chip》也有同样的问题。

The FAQ has some reading recommendations. If you are unsure, start with his collection of short stories in Burning Chrome.

FAQ里有一些阅读推荐。如果你不确定，可以先从他在《Burning Chrome》里收录的短篇集开始。

=== /sec/ News:

=== /sec/ 新闻：

>This Week In Security: What’s In A Name, The AI Bugpocalypse Hits Everyone, OpenWRT Flaws, And Duress Passwords

>本期安全周报：名字里有什么、AI漏洞大爆发波及所有人、OpenWRT漏洞，以及胁迫密码

https://hackaday.com/2026/07/31/this-week-in-security-whats-in-a-name-the-ai-bugpocalypse-hits-everyone-openwrt-flaws-and-duress-passwords/

does Arch being super up to date make it the securest operating system

Arch因为更新超快，所以是最安全的操作系统吗

>>109430805

No that'd be Qubes. Arch if anything is less stable and far more dangerous

不是，那是Qubes。Arch如果要说的话反而不太稳定，而且危险得多

>>109430832

>Qubes

what's the 2nd best?

第二好的是啥？

>>109430840

It'd be Tails or Whonix

那就是Tails或Whonix

Ayo!

https://www.etymonline.com/word/cyber-

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785619378607252.png

>>109431291

>https://www.etymonline.com/word/cyber-

Hd a look. Found this:

看了一眼。找到这个：

>Cyber is such a perfect prefix. Because nobody has any idea what it means, it can be grafted onto any old word to make it seem new, cool — and therefore strange, spooky. [New York magazine, Dec. 23, 1996]

>赛博真是个完美的前缀。因为没人知道它什么意思，可以贴在任何老词上让它显得新颖、酷——所以也显得奇怪、吓人。[纽约杂志，1996年12月23日]

Seems they celebrate wilful ignorance and studied mindlessness. I guess we can call this cyberbunk.

看来他们是在庆祝故意无知和刻意不动脑。我觉得可以叫这个赛博垃圾。

>>109430858

Tails is not a good daily driver though

不过Tails不适合当日常主力系统

>>109433395

Why not?

为什么不？

teach me your ways

教教我你的招数

>>109434440

Easy, the OP txt is loaded with resources. Just read it all.

简单，OP的文本里全是资源。全读完就行。

>>109434440

Start with the OP resources and then move towards doing experiments yourself

先从OP的资源开始，然后自己动手做实验

>>109394762

What are some smart drugs I could be taking today to increase my performance and compete with llms?

有什么聪明药我今天可以吃来提升表现，跟LLM竞争？

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785687616351179.png

>>109437886

Japanese green tea, which is rich in L-theanine, and generaly regarded as safe (GRAS).

日本绿茶，富含L-茶氨酸，一般认为安全（GRAS）。

How did your week go, anon? What did you manage to hack this week?

你这周过得怎么样，anon？这周破解了什么？

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785703388886816.png

>>109440004

thats a good crop anon, hair strands flowing in the eather

那是个好收成啊anon，发丝在以太中飘荡

>>109387207

>data broker data removal

>数据经纪人数据清除 ⁇> 花钱删这些玩意儿值得吗，还是走免费路线，找出那一亿个网站挨个求他们删？

is it worth it to pay for this shit to get removed or should i go the free route and find the 1 gazillion websites and ask them remove them

这玩意儿值不值得花钱去删，还是该走免费路线，找到那数不清的网站挨个求他们删？

>>109440291

The list in OP isn't hard to do yourself. I've used it and it didn't take that long.

OP里的清单自己动手不难。我试过，没花多长时间。

>>109440004

It was more on the timeline: >>109400456

更准确说是在这个时间线：>>109400456

Added also Minix since it became "popular" in Intel ME. Made me wonder, why isn't Minix 3.4 out yet?

加了Minix，因为它在Intel ME里“火”了。让我好奇为啥Minix 3.4还没出？

>>109441693

That is amazing work, can't wait!

干得漂亮，等不及了！

>>109441415

How much time did it take?

花了多少时间？

>>109442774

I did it in a few hour sessions over two weekends which included multiple names (family and friends who were 1 degree of separation from me, i.e., had a shared address). Really not a bad trade off compared to paying some monthly subscription that requires your personal and financial details.

我分几个时段干的，两个周末搞定，包括多个名字（家人和朋友，跟我只有一度人脉，比如共享地址的那种）。比起每月订阅还要你填个人信息和财务资料，这真不算亏。

>OP recommends fucking BRAVE BROWSER instead of Helium

>楼主推荐的是狗屎BRAVE浏览器而不是Helium

fucking retards

真他妈智障

>>109443041

It's better than the botnet of helium and the woke garbage of firefox. Be better, be Brave!

比Helium那僵尸网络强，也比Firefox那觉醒垃圾好。做好人，用Brave！

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785726985333334.png

>>109394762

What of this has the most progress? Which part would be the worst thing if it came true?

这里面哪个进展最大？哪个要是成真了会是最惨的？

Who here can I trust?

这里有谁靠谱？

>>109443109

>le shill lion

>那个广告狗

no thx

不了谢谢

>>109443942

The list is old, I think from 2008, but I find very few results published.

这个单子很老了，好像是2008年的，但我发现发表的成果很少。

More energy: no hits

更多能量：毫无动静

Less sleep: a few hits, but TMS is still at a very primitive level

少睡：有一点成果，但TMS还在很初级的阶段

Smarter analysis: nothing concrete

更聪明的分析：没有实质的东西

Stronger exoskeletons: some work published under the new name Sarcos in 2019, so that took time

更强的外骨骼：2019年以Sarcos的新名字发表了一些研究，所以那确实花了时间

Augmented cognition: nothing concrete

增强认知：没有实质进展

Better digestion: no hits - did they take the fiunding and run??

改善消化：毫无成果——他们是拿了钱就跑了吗？？

Tougher bodies: a few hits plus some publicartions

更强体质：有一点成果，外加几篇论文

>>109443041

Seriously fuck off. PrivacyGuides/PrivacyTools both recommend Brave as a top Chromium based browser.

说真的去你的吧。PrivacyGuides/PrivacyTools 都把 Brave 列为顶级 Chromium 系浏览器。

>>109443942

I think no sleep would be the worst thing they could do. It would mean people no longer need to rest and corporations would switch to working 24/7. The economic model would switch so people can't afford to live unless they are permanently slaving away for a corporation.

我觉得"无需睡眠"是他们能干出来的最糟糕的事。那意味着人不再需要休息，企业会转向 24/7 连轴转。经济模式会跟着变，除非你永远给公司当牛做马，否则根本活不起。

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785762731806596.jpg

>>109447061

First off, there are already many who need no more than 4 hours sleep a night, oddly, several are or have been in politics.

首先，已经有很多人每晚只需不到 4 小时睡眠，奇怪的是，其中不少人是搞政治的，或者搞过政治。

Secondly, I am more concerned about corporation will have a great need for customers/clients but not so many employees. We are rolling out AI where I work and it is astonishing how well it works now. I used to be concerned about how few juniors we were, now I am more concerned about too few seniors.

其次，我更担心的是企业会缺客户，而不缺员工。我公司正在铺开 AI，效果之好简直吓人。以前我担心初级员工太少，现在我更担心资深员工不够。

validating human

验证人类身份

California just enacted the Drop Act

加州刚通过了 Drop Act

https://privacy.ca.gov/drop/

So if you live in CA you can get your data scrubbed from the internet for free but it only affects data brokers in California which is fucking gay.

所以如果你住在加州，可以免费把个人数据从网上抹掉，但它只管加州的那些数据经纪商，这他妈太扯了。

>>109447534

My bad I meant say data brokers that it affects data brokers that are registered in CA

我说错了，我的意思是它只管在加州注册的数据经纪商。

Do all those "verifying the device" services actually place the device into a database? I feel like they take too long "verifying it" before loading the content.

那些"正在验证设备"的服务真的会把设备放进数据库里吗？我觉得它们加载内容前"验证"的时间也太久了。

>>109448850

It all goes to Cloudflare's servers which then go to the intelligence agency's desk

全都流到 Cloudflare 的服务器上，再送到情报机构的办公桌上

>>109447205

I envy them so much, I require 10 or more hours

我好羡慕他们，我得睡 10 小时以上

>>109445282

no one just like anywhere else on the internet

和网上其他地方一样，没人

>>109450349

Given that many of these politicians are incompetent, evil or both, I am not sure you are missing out on much (other than financial success).

鉴于这帮政客很多不是无能就是缺德，要不就是又蠢又坏，我觉得你没错过啥（除了发大财以外）。

>>109451672

Well that is a good point as a matter of fact, maybe sleep deprivation has an impact in their awful performance

这倒是个好观点，说不定睡眠不足正是他们表现烂的根源。

>>109452365

I wish I wasn't always sleep deprived...

我多希望自己没老是睡眠不足……

>>109443041

I will add Helium to the Chromium list next thread.

下个帖子我会把 Helium 加进 Chromium 名单。 ┛ 我懂那感觉，希望聪明药能解决这个问题。

>>109453125

I know that feeling, I hope intelligent drugs help solve that issue

我懂那种感觉，希望聪明药能帮上忙解决这个问题。

>>109447061

The world would change immensly if they were able to delay female puberty by just 2 years.

要是能把女性青春期推迟哪怕两年，世界都会天翻地覆。

>>109449291

>source: dude, trust me

>来源：兄弟，相信我

>>109457918

In Kali Yuga, it is always safe to assume the worst.

在 Kali Yuga（末法时代），往最坏处想永远没错。

>>109458518

>the worst

>最坏处

Symptomatically, the Solarpunk thread fell quickly off page 10: >>109437107

症状就是，Solarpunk 那帖很快掉出第 10 页了：>>109437107

What did you manage to hack this week, anon?

这个星期你黑了啥，匿了？

>>109459485

off my own nuts

把自己整得够呛。

My org is currently getting spammed en mass by phishing emails, pure chaos from the management and c levels to figure out what to do, very kino

我们公司现在正被钓鱼邮件狂轰滥炸，管理层和 C 级高层一团乱麻不知道怎么办，太刺激了。

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785867395189057.jpg

>>109459620

Damn, sounds painful anon. Attempting to replace with implants? I mean in a way transitioning is a very cyb thing to do

卧槽听着就头大，匿了。打算换植入体试试？我是说，从某种意义上说，转型本身就是件很赛博的事。

>>109460199

Sounds like fun, are you in charge of security?

听起来挺带劲的，你是负责安全的吗？

>>109463047

Nope, nmp

不是，nmp

>>109463080

Based. It's always fun to watch the sparks fly

靠谱。看火花四溅总是很好玩 ﹞ 我单位装了两份Outlook，一个普通版一个"经典版"。真他妈离谱。

>>109423259

At my work they have two copies of outlook, normal and "classic". Absolutely insane.

我上班的地方装了俩Outlook，一个普通的，一个“经典版”。简直离谱。

>>109464717

kek why is that? Corpos am I right?

哈哈为啥啊？公司就这样，对吧？

>recommending an untrustable piece of shit browser in the SECURITY general

>在安全板块推荐一个不可信的垃圾浏览器

I've seen it all. this whole website really is glownigger general.

我真是开了眼了。这整个网站就是"钓鱼佬"聚集地。

>>109446162

>PrivacyGuides/PrivacyTools both recommend Brave as a top Chromium based browser.

>PrivacyGuides/PrivacyTools 都推荐Brave作为顶级基于Chromium的浏览器。

enjoy your malware browser

好好享受你的恶意软件浏览器吧

https://davidgerard.co.uk/blockchain/2020/06/06/the-brave-web-browser-is-hijacking-links-and-inserting-affiliate-codes/

>>109464933

>2020

lmao at the cope

笑死，这酸劲儿

Hello everyone o/

大家好 o/

I was reading the cybersecurity guide from the wiki in OP post, and it mentioned that Tor exit nodes could be used to distribute malware. Is this something I should be concerned about, and does this mean that TailsOS is not as safe to use?

我在楼主帖子里读到了wiki的网络安全指南，里面提到Tor出口节点可能被用来分发恶意软件。这个我需要担心吗？这是不是意味着TailsOS用起来没那么安全？

On that note, are any of you familiar with I2P? What kind of practical use does it have, and is it comparable to Tor? Not to knock I2P, of course.

顺便问一下，你们有人熟悉I2P吗？它有什么实际用途，能和Tor相比吗？当然不是说I2P不行。

>>109464933

What do you recommend instead? I can understand that this sort of thing might undermine trust in a browser, even if I personally like it.

那你推荐什么替代品？我能理解这种事可能会破坏人们对浏览器的信任，哪怕我个人挺喜欢的。

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785938953641032.jpg

So how about 'dumb phones'? Any schizo use one? I'm wondering if they might be less secure because they're simpler in design (dumber).

那"老人机"呢？有没有精神分裂的用这个？我在想它们会不会因为设计更简单（更蠢）反而更不安全。

>>109469083

irc is safer than anything we got nowadays precisely because it is dumber. Simple protocols are more difficult to exploit than the spaghetti that is modern software like, *ptoo* electron

IRC比我们现在用的任何东西都安全，恰恰就是因为它更蠢。简单协议比现代那些像意大利面一样的软件更难被利用，比如，*呸*，Electron。

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785945999018912.jpg

>>109459620

>off my own nuts

>别自己瞎折腾了

Oh so you became a linux dev?

哦所以你是改行当Linux开发者了？

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785948472459787.png

>>109468268

i2p got less nodes so it's easier to deanonymize an user. Tor has more but a lot of them are poisoned since the glowies control them.

i2p节点少，所以更容易去匿名化用户。Tor节点多，但其中很多被污染了，因为条子们控制着它们。

I guess it's a pick your poison kind of deal.

我觉得这就是个两害相权取其轻的事。

So far i2p has seen a lot of improvements in late years so I think that and isfp are the future

到目前为止，i2p近年来进步很大，所以我觉得它和isfp才是未来。

=== /sec/ News:

=== /sec/ 新闻：

>Tails 7.10.1 Is Out as an Emergency Release to Fix Critical Vulnerabilities

>Tails 7.10.1 作为紧急版本发布，修复关键漏洞。

https://9to5linux.com/tails-7-10-1-is-out-as-an-emergency-release-to-fix-critical-vulnerabilities

>Coming two weeks after Tails 7.10, the Tails 7.10.1 release is an emergency point release to fix critical vulnerabilities, including a Linux kernel flaw that could allow Tor Browser in Tails to gain administrator privileges. The kernel has been updated to Linux 6.12.100 LTS, and the Tails devs ensure users that this attack is very unlikely.

>在 Tails 7.10 发布两周后，Tails 7.10.1 是一次紧急补丁版本，用于修复关键漏洞，其中包括一个 Linux 内核缺陷，可能让 Tails 中的 Tor 浏览器获取管理员权限。内核已更新至 Linux 6.12.100 LTS，Tails 开发者向用户保证，这种攻击发生的可能性极低。

>Tails 7.10.1 also fixes a set of vulnerabilities in the expat XML library that could allow different applications in Tails to gain administrator privileges. The expat XML library has been updated to version 2.8.2. Once again, the Tails devs ensure users that this attack is very unlikely, but it can be performed by a strong attacker.

>Tails 7.10.1 还修复了 expat XML 库中的一组漏洞，这些漏洞可能让 Tails 中的不同应用获取管理员权限。expat XML 库已更新至 2.8.2 版本。Tails 开发者再次向用户保证，这种攻击的可能性极低，但实力强大的攻击者仍可能实施。

Is DuckDuckGos email forwarding solution enough if I just want to use to sign up to websites (aka not get raped with spam/tracking)

如果我只是想用邮箱注册网站（也就是不想被垃圾邮件和跟踪轰炸），DuckDuckGo 的邮件转发方案够用吗？

I can get Simple Login(+Proton Pass) for 15€ thanks to the student discount, but I'm not sure if I should pay when having DDG.

我可以用学生折扣 15 欧拿下 Simple Login（加 Proton Pass），但拿不准该不该在有 DDG 的情况下花钱。

>>109469684

What is a proper brand of programmer socks if I want to become an epic hacker?

想成为史诗级黑客的话，程序员袜子该买什么牌子？

=== /cyb/ NEws:

=== /cyb/ 新闻时间：

>The ethical perils of gene therapy

>基因治疗的伦理困境

https://archive.is/BRY4N

>When a couple in China emailed a prominent neuroscientist, it was out of love and desperation for their young daughter Mei (not her real name). A single, rare genetic mutation, they discovered, was slowing her development. Could gene therapy help?

>一对中国夫妇联系了一位知名神经科学家，是出于对年幼女儿 Mei（化名）的爱与绝望。他们发现，一个罕见的基因突变正在减缓她的发育。基因治疗能帮忙吗？

>Through a support group for affected families, the couple contacted Zilong Qiu, a talented researcher in Shanghai with a TEDx talk, start-up company and patented treatment for a genetic syndrome under his belt. For the sum of $860,000, Qiu agreed to treat Mei. Within a week of receiving the tailor-made therapy, in early 2025, the six-year-old was dead. A catastrophic immune reaction triggered fatal blood clotting.

>通过一个病患家庭互助小组，夫妇俩联系上了仇子龙——上海一位才华横溢的研究者，名下有一场 TEDx 演讲、一家创业公司，以及一项针对某种遗传综合征的专利疗法。仇子龙同意为 Mei 治疗，费用 86 万美元。2025 年初，在接受定制治疗一周内，这个六岁女孩就去世了。一场灾难性的免疫反应引发了致命的血栓。

We are nowhere near general deployment of this tech but China poweres on.

这项技术离大规模应用还远得很，但中国照样往前冲。

>>109470832

it's a honeypot

那是个蜜罐

>>109472649

>source: dude, trust me

>来源：兄弟，相信我

>>109473219

go trust the faceless corporation that has access to your data then, you fucking retarded cunt

那就去信那个能看你数据的无名公司吧，你他妈真是个智障贱货

>>109473331

not an argument

这根本不算论点

>>109473482

>multibillion dollar company says they dont spy on him

>市值数十亿的公司说他们不监视他

>believes that

>他信了

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785973882261495.jpg

>>109473482

the fuck you mean not an argument

你说这不算论点是什么意思

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785974391010129.jpg

>>109473482

>>109473219

its so moronic to me because your counterargument is "dude, trust me" while the company tells you the exact same shit. Just trust me bro your data is SAFE dude

我觉得这蠢爆了，因为你的反驳就是"老兄，信我"，而公司跟你说的一模一样。就信我 bro，你的数据绝对安全，老兄

>>109473489

>>109473537

>>109473563

Samefag

>>109473580

you're mad and derailing from the initial subject. get lost duckduckgo shill

你气急败坏还跑题了。滚吧，duckduckgo 推销员

>>109473563

>its so moronic to me because your counterargument is "dude, trust me"

>我觉得这蠢爆了，因为你的反驳就是"老兄，信我"

burden of proof is on the person making the claim

举证责任在提出主张的人身上

>>109460199

>c levels

>C 级

not in the tech industry, what does this mean?

不在科技行业，这是啥意思？

>>109473596

>get lost duckduckgo shill

>滚吧，duckduckgo 推销员

so you must use something better?

那你肯定在用更好的东西？

at this point hiding your information from the glowniggers is next to near impossible, you either go full ghost mode schizo opsec fiend and keep close to a tight nit group of other shizos to partake in your dirty deeds

到了这一步，想从那些黑皮狗眼皮底下藏信息几乎不可能了，你要么彻底隐身，玩全套偏执狂 opsec 那套，跟一帮同类偏执狂抱团干见不得人的勾当

or

use the mass marketed security tools available to you if you still want to be a somewhat normal citizen but mindful of privacy and security from hackers, data brokers and general prying eyes

要是你还想过正常日子，那就用市面上主流的那些安全工具，至少能防黑客、防数据贩子、防一般窥探

>>109474010

>from hackers and general prying eyes

>防黑客和一般窥探

It only ever makes matters worse in the long term. The safer your data is from the general public, or rather, the higher gets the difference between its safety from the general public and from glowniggers, the more of a glownigger monopoly it becomes and the stronger gets their impetus to fuck shit up. If there's no way for them to spy on people without also letting people spy on each other, they would think twice every time they implement something stupid; if there's no way for people to use their shit alongside them, they wouldn't think at all as brainless hive bees they are. So yeah, no. When somebody complains about leaks, this somebody basically says he'd like to destroy the only system of checks that keeps glowies in line.

长远来看这只会让事情更糟。你的数据对公众越安全，或者更准确说，它对公众的安全度与对黑皮狗的安全度差距越大，黑皮狗的垄断就越强，它们搞破坏的劲头也越大。如果它们没法在不让人互相监视的前提下搞监视，每次做蠢事之前就会三思；如果普通人没法跟它们共用同一套系统，它们作为没脑子的工蜂根本不会思考。所以，不，不行。有人说泄露问题时，他本质上是在说自己想毁掉唯一能约束黑皮狗的那套制衡机制。

>>109468268

>What do you recommend instead?

那你推荐啥？

firefox + ublock origin/noscript

火狐（Firefox）＋uBlock Origin／NoScript

also, if you will browse through the Tor network, make sure to disable javascript in your browser.

另外，你要是想浏览Tor网络，记得把浏览器里的JavaScript关掉。

>>109474927

noscript is trash, no reason to use it with ublock

noscript 就是个辣鸡，有了 ublock 根本没必要再用它

>>109474982

why does tor include it by default?

那为啥 Tor 默认还带这玩意儿？

also do they work together or get in each others way?

还有，这俩能一起用还是互相碍事？

>>109475006

>tor browser makes retarded choices

>Tor 浏览器净整些脑残操作

more news at 11

11点档新闻敬请期待

>>109473811

>burden of proof is on the person making the claim

>举证责任在提出主张的人身上

if you knew basic logic, you'f realize how stupid this is.

你要是懂点基本逻辑，就会知道这话有多蠢。

absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. you shouldn't trust someone just because they tell you to trust them.

没证据不等于证伪。别人让你信就信，那就不该信。

>>109475006

ublock literally has the same script blocking ability in advanced mode making noscript redundant

ublock 高级模式里本来就有同样的脚本拦截功能，noscript 纯属多余

>>109475025

>if you knew basic logic, you'f realize how stupid this is.

>你要是懂点基本逻辑，就会知道这话有多蠢。

Have you ever taken a philosophy or logic class? I'm guessing not.

你上过哲学或逻辑课吗？我猜没有。

>absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. you shouldn't trust someone just because they tell you to trust them.

>没证据不等于证伪。别人让你信就信，那就不该信。

DuckDuckGo has a privacy report and audits. If anon above says they are a honeypot, then they absolutely need some receipts to back up that claim.

DuckDuckGo 有隐私报告和审计。上面那位匿名说他们是蜜罐，那就得拿出点实锤来撑住这话。

>>109475025

Yes. In general, the burden of proof rests on the person making a claim.

对。一般来说，举证责任在提出主张的人身上。

The basic idea is:

基本逻辑是：

If someone asserts that something is true, they're responsible for providing evidence or reasons to support it.

如果有人声称某件事是真的，那他们就得拿出证据或理由来支持。

Other people are not generally required to disprove the claim before withholding belief.

别人没义务在你选择不信之前先去推翻这个说法。

For example:

比如：

If I claim, "There is a hidden city beneath the ocean," it's my job to provide evidence for that claim.

如果我说“海底有座隐藏城市”，那举证责任在我。

It's not someone else's responsibility to prove that no such city exists.

别人没必要去证明这城市不存在。

This principle is common in:

这个原则常见于：

Logic and critical thinking: Claims should be supported by evidence.

逻辑和批判性思维：主张得有证据支撑。

Science: Researchers must provide evidence for hypotheses.

科学：研究者得为假设提供证据。

Law: The burden of proof depends on the type of case (for example, in criminal cases, the prosecution generally bears the burden of proving guilt beyond a reasonable doubt).

法律：举证责任取决于案件类型（比如刑事案件，通常由控方承担排除合理怀疑的举证责任）。

A related principle is that absence of evidence is not always evidence of absence, but if no evidence is presented, it's reasonable to remain unconvinced rather than accept the claim.

还有个相关原则是，没证据不一定等于证伪，但要是没拿出任何证据，那保持怀疑而不是直接接受，才是合理的。

>>109475084

>it's my job to provide evidence for that claim.

>举证责任在我

well get to diving

行，那你去潜个水吧

Do NOT drink the water

别喝那水

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785989718893639.jpg

>>109475035

the point of noscript isn't only to stop javascript from running. you use it to stop well known classes of attacks, and will let you know if some potentially malicious request is being sent, something ublock won't do, it just blocks shit based on lists.

noscript 的意义不只是不让 JavaScript 跑。你用它来防已知的攻击类型，它还能提醒你是否有潜在恶意的请求被发出，这是 ublock 做不到的——它只是按列表屏蔽东西而已。

>>109475051

>DuckDuckGo has a privacy report and audits

>DuckDuckGo 有隐私报告和审计

tell me how I know you have never worked a single day in your life, and rarely ever touch grass

你告诉我我怎么知道你这辈子一天班没上过，还几乎不碰草地

they are an american company. guess who they have to respond to when asked by your zionist governments to provide information or even access?

他们是美国公司。你猜当你们的犹太复国主义政府要求他们提供信息甚至访问权限时，他们得听谁的？

>>109475084

>it's reasonable to remain unconvinced rather than accept the claim.

>保持怀疑而不是直接接受，才是合理的

you should have told chatgpt the whole story. this is about trust. you don't trust someone blindly if you are looking to hide stuff from them.

你该把整个事情的来龙去脉都告诉ChatGPT。这关乎信任。你要是想藏着掖着，就别指望毫无保留地信任别人。

let's say a new search engine comes and says "you can trust me, bro". would you use it just because they said that? there is no evidence of anything, they are new. so, what? does that mean there is no problem there?

假设冒出来个新搜索引擎，跟你说"兄弟，信我准没错"。你会因为人家这么说就用吗？他们毫无历史可查，全是新的。那又怎样？这就代表没问题了？

assuming there is no technical evidence of wrongdoing, the way of knowing if something is trustable is to gather info on the reputation of those who own/manage the company, or its social/political/economic context. go look at their reputation. you can go this by googling.

就算没有技术层面的不当行为证据，判断一个东西靠不靠谱，办法就是去查公司老板和管理层的名声，还有社会、政治、经济背景。自己去看口碑，百度谷歌一搜就有。

>Science: Researchers must provide evidence for hypotheses.

>科学：研究者必须为假说提供证据。

and then it turns out the evidence wasn't complete, and they have to modify the whole theory. like gravity and relativity.

结果后来发现证据不完整，整个理论还得推翻重来。比如重力和相对论。

>Law: The burden of proof depends on the type of case

>法律：举证责任因案件类型而异。

ever heard the term "legal truth"? you can't actually prove shit in court.

听过"法律事实"这个词吗？在法庭上你根本证明不了个屁。

see, logic isn't reality. but logic helps understand reality. like, when people are fucking retarded and don't know what they are talking about, and think things are binary/unidimensional, like in logic.

你看，逻辑不等于现实。但逻辑能帮人理解现实。就像有些人傻逼兮兮，说话不经过大脑，还总觉得什么事都像逻辑那样非黑即白、非此即彼。

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785990215899656.jpg

>>109475409

im really torn between noscript and uBo. noscript does provide xss protection and click jacking by default right? but uBo can also do more than just lists with advanced mode and manual adjustments. im trying to get set up where noscript does the global rules and uBo for finer tuning without them tripping over each other but im looking for arguements to support using one or the other exclusively

我现在在NoScript和uBlock Origin之间纠结死了。NoScript默认不是能防XSS和点击劫持吗？但uBo用高级模式加手动调整，能干的事也不只是拉清单。我想配置成NoScript管全局规则、uBo做精细微调，互不干扰，但我想听听大家的论点，看到底是二选一还是两者都用。

>>109475550

y not both

为啥不全都要？

>>109473913

NTA but C-levels are the CxO, so

不是针对谁，但C-level就是指CxO那些高管，所以就是这样。

Chief Executive Officer (CEO)

首席执行官（CEO）

Chief Operations Officer (COO)

首席运营官（COO）

Chief Technology Officer (CTO)

首席技术官（CTO）

Chief Development Officer (CDO)

首席开发官（CDO）

There are probably more.

可能还有更多。

>>109475409

>something ublock won't do, it just blocks shit based on lists.

>有些事uBlock干不了，它就纯粹按清单屏蔽东西。

completely false

完全是放屁。

https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Blocking-mode:-medium-mode

>>109477291

the dev of noscript has a shady history, and again, it's been proven redundant with ublock advanced modes

NoScript的开发人员黑历史一堆，而且早就证明了用uBlock高级模式就够了，NoScript纯属多余。

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12624000

https://blog.adblockplus.org/blog/attention-noscript-users

https://liltinkerer.surge.sh/noscript.html

>>109477663

>https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Blocking-mode:-medium-mode

>tourists don't know this has been in OP for 5 years

>游客不知道这帖子原帖里已经挂了五年了。

Whatever happened with sizeof.cat? Has been offline for quite a while now

sizeof.cat后来怎么了？已经下线好一阵子了。

So my bitwarden signed out and I suddenly discovered I have amnesia regarsing the masterpassword.

我的Bitwarden突然登出了，然后我发现自己对主密码直接失忆了。

In the past I partly relied on always having it logged in on either PC or phone. I have backed the PC up and installed a fresh OS since.

以前我全靠电脑或手机上一直保持登录状态。后来我备份了电脑，装了个全新的系统。

~/. config/Bitwarden exists in the backup

~/.config/Bitwarden这个文件夹在备份里有。

it might be but is unlikely that ~/.mozilla/firefox holds any password that could be helpful but it wont contain the masterpw.

~/.mozilla/firefox里可能存了点什么有用的密码，但不太可能有主密码。

I have the 2FA authenticator.

我有2FA验证器。

>what do

>现在咋办？

>>109478564

cri, that's what you do.

蹲墙角哭去吧，就这么办。

Then you set up a new account and have it log out automatically within 15 min. That way you type the password enough times to not forget it

然后注册个新账号，设置15分钟内自动登出。这样你输密码的频率够高，就忘不了了。

>>109387934

I DEMAND a government issued child cyborg!

我强烈要求政府给我发个儿童机器人！

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1786032052082323.jpg

>>109477676

>https://blog.adblockplus.org/blog/attention-noscript-users

>ABP devs talking about shady shit

>ABP开发者在聊些见不得人的勾当。

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>109477663

ok, but, say, 3rd party scripts don't come disabled by default. also, how does any of that protect you from, say, XSS or CSRF?

行，但话说回来，第三方脚本默认又不会禁用。再说了，这些怎么防XSS或CSRF啊？

>>109478521

He was doxxed, had to keep a low profile. He might be lurking here but the site is probabluy gone forever.

他被开盒了，只能低调行事。他可能还在潜水，但这站大概彻底没了。

And what happened to the russian anon who was creating his own version of the neuralink? Afaik he had already made the electrode and it was going to go inside his skull, his last post was about him getting ready to drill into his brain at home.

那个自己搞神经链接的俄国匿名老哥后来咋样了？据我所知他电极都做好了，准备塞进自己脑袋里，最后一条帖是他准备在家往自己脑子里钻孔。

Thank you for the responses, anons. This general is pretty cool.

谢谢各位匿名网友的回复，这个串挺有意思的。

>>109469700

If Tor truly does have these issues, then maybe I shouldn't use TailsOS if push comes to shove.

要是Tor真有这些问题，那到万不得已的时候，我可能就不该用TailsOS了。

That said, I imagine I should probably get a VPN for bypassing regional restrictions and the watch of my ISP when it comes to the clearnet. Is Proton a good choice? Is there any other ways to access the clearnet with a bit more privacy?

话说回来，我觉得可能得搞个VPN，用来绕开地区限制和运营商对明网的监视。Proton靠谱吗？还有别的办法在明网上多搞点隐私不？

>>109469083

I also have this question. Would it be better in anyway than using an alternative phone OS like GrapheneOS?

我也有这疑问。这玩意儿比用GrapheneOS这类替代手机系统强在哪儿吗？

>>109469305

What uses the IRC protocol? Do dumb phones use it? I'm a little ignorant about it, unfortunately.

IRC协议是干嘛用的？功能机用这玩意儿吗？说实话我对这个有点懵。

>>109474927

I've heard a short while ago that Firefox changed something with their AI related policy and upset its userbase. I kinda forgot the details. Anyway, does this render them less trustworthy?

我前不久听说Firefox改了他们AI相关的政策，惹恼了一堆用户。具体细节我记不太清了。总之，这事儿让他们没那么可信了吗？

Also, shouldn't you only use the Tor browser for Tor? Or so they say.

还有，你不是应该只用Tor浏览器来访问Tor吗？别人是这么说的。

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1786035617174357.jpg

>>109480007

>What uses the IRC protocol? Do dumb phones use it? I'm a little ignorant about it, unfortunately.

>IRC协议是干嘛用的？功能机用这玩意儿吗？说实话我对这个有点懵。

Start here

从这儿开始看

https://youtu.be/6UbKenFipjo

>>109460199

Round 2 started today

第二轮今天开始了

>>109479881

that's unfortunate, i kinda liked the seekret club forum thing. Was very cozy

真可惜，我挺喜欢那个秘密俱乐部论坛的，氛围特温馨。

>>109478564

you could reinstall the backup in a VM probably.

你大概可以把备份装到虚拟机里恢复。

The export fucntion probably needs the master password, so best you can do is copy/paste all the passwords to a file.

导出功能大概需要主密码，所以你能做的最好的就是把所有密码复制粘贴到一个文件里。

https://youtu.be/PKmcJscwh4o?si=RZ0K9BJtK9KhfdlF

mandia on shawn ryan

mandia上了shawn ryan的节目

What are you building this week, anon?

匿名网友，这周你在搞啥？

>>109480168

Also anon.cafe was super comfy but that one too is now gone.

还有anon.cafe之前也特舒服，但那个也凉了。

>>109480007

>What uses the IRC protocol? Do dumb phones use it? I'm a little ignorant about it, unfortunately.

>IRC协议是干嘛用的？功能机用这玩意儿吗？说实话我对这个有点懵。

This one here is the true beginner explanation of what IRC is

这个才是真正给新手解释IRC是啥的

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2rGTXHvPCQ

=== /cyb/ News:

=== /cyb/ 新闻：

>AI creates first synthetic viruses

>AI创造出第一批合成病毒

>Genomic language model has huge potential to redesign organisms such as bacteria

>基因组语言模型在改造细菌这类生物体上有巨大潜力

https://archive.is/UXSdN

>Stanford University researchers developed a generative AI programme called Evo 2 that writes new genomes — the genetic instructions for life encoded in DNA. They used it to design and make 16 synthetic phages, small viruses that infect bacteria.

>斯坦福大学研究人员开发了一个叫Evo 2的生成式AI程序，能写出新的基因组——也就是DNA里编码的生命遗传指令。他们用它设计并制造了16种合成噬菌体，就是感染细菌的小病毒。

>“The importance of Brian Hie’s landmark paper cannot be overstated,” said Adrian Woolfson, a genomics expert who is chief executive of the DNA synthesis company Genyro. “It is biology’s Wright Brothers moment, where we stop looking over our shoulder at the entities that evolution has created...and are confronted with the vast expanses of future biological possibility.”

>“Brian Hie这篇里程碑式论文的重要性怎么强调都不为过，”DNA合成公司Genyro的首席执行官、基因组学专家Adrian Woolfson说。“这是生物学界的莱特兄弟时刻，我们不再回头看进化创造的那些东西……而是面对未来生物学可能性的广阔天地。”

>>109479424

if you put it in medium mode 3p scripts and frame will always be disabled by default unless you *explicitly* allow a rule for that domain

你要是开中等模式，第三方脚本和框架默认永远禁用，除非你*明确*给那个域名加个规则