>2012 年发布的
>released 2012
>2012 年发布的
>still holds up in 2026
>到 2026 年依然能打
>can't find the same features in a modern laptop
>在现代笔记本上找不到同样的配置
Did technology plateau after this? I think laptops were solved at this very moment, and everything afterwards has been a cheap imitation.
技术在这之后就停滞了吗？我觉得笔记本技术在这时就已经终结了，之后的所有东西都是廉价的仿制品。
>>109360459
Can it watch 1080p youtube videos using av1 without the CPU cooking itself?
它能在 CPU 不把自己烤熟的情况下用 AV1 解码播放 1080p 的 YouTube 视频吗？
>>109360522
Yes, Ivy Bridge is more than capable of this
可以，Ivy Bridge 绰绰有余
>>109360459
>still holds up
>依然能打
if all you do is web browsing and use a WM from the 2000s, sure
如果你只是用来浏览网页，并且用个 2000 年代的窗口管理器，那确实可以
>>109360551
It's not, which is the point of that comment. It doesn't have the hardware decoders for that so you have to be tethered to the wall while doing that else the CPU will sap the battery in 30 minutes. All just to try to drown out the fans spinning at 100% with the shit tinny speakers. Stop going on the internet and lying to validate your old tech. It's aesthetic and I like it but no, it sucks.
根本不是，这正是那条评论的重点。它没有硬件解码器，所以你得插着电源用，不然CPU会把电池在30分钟内榨干。这一切只是为了用那破塑料般的小扬声器发出的噪音来掩盖风扇100%转速的嘶吼。别上网去撒谎来为你那老掉牙的数码产品贴金了。它颜值高，我喜欢这一点，但没错，它就是个垃圾。
>>109360617
and post on lainchan to larp as le hackerman
然后去lainchan发帖装逼当黑客
>>109360617
Don't worry, OP will either lie or move the goal post beyond the horizon with bullshit like "I don't even do that so it's irrelevant".
别担心，OP要么会撒谎，要么会用“我根本不做那个所以这不关我事”这种屁话来移动球门柱。
>>109360459
My X60 and T430 both suck. I still have a T480S that works pretty well but I don't believe in forever laptops--i.e. the Thinkpad from Ebay meme.
我的X60和T430都很烂。我还有台T480S，用得还不错，但我不信什么“终身笔记本”那一套——也就是eBay梗里的那个thinkpad神话。
>>109360637
Lainchan is slow but objectively higher quality than this place.
lainchan虽然慢，但客观上比这里质量高。
>>109360459
>>109360698
neat.
The keyboard, trackpad, and trackpoint is literally the only thing good, unique, and likeable about it. If you could have those three things with modern hardware and screen for $2000 you would take it in an instant (as would any /g/tard including me).
键盘、触控板和指点杆 literally（ literally就是“ literally”）是唯一好、独特且讨人喜欢的东西。如果能用2000美元买到带现代硬件和屏幕，同时拥有这三样东西的电脑，你会立刻下单（包括我在内的所有/g/白痴都会）。
>>109360617
>>109360643
I do game development on mine.
我在上面做游戏开发。
>>109360759
Very cool. What's your point here?
很酷。你的观点是什么？
Reminder they make old computers useless with reverse moore's law, and they make old cars useless with emissions standards.
提醒一下，他们通过反向摩尔定律让旧电脑变废，还通过排放标准让旧车变废。
>>109360861
> they make old computers useless with reverse moore's law
> 他们通过反向摩尔定律让旧电脑变废
Wat?
> they make old cars useless with emissions standards
> 他们通过排放标准让旧车变废
Yes but what does that have to do with the first thing?
是的，但这跟第一件事有什么关系？
>>109360522
Kek I watch 1080P youtube videos at 30 fps on a core 2 duo with GMA graphics
呵呵，我用Core 2 Duo和GMA显卡看30帧的1080P YouTube视频
>>109360884
>everse moore's law
> 反向摩尔定律
It's software bloat Anon, computers will double their RAM, and the dam soi-devs will quadruple the memory usage to the point where a laptop with a 4nm CPU, M.2 drive will have delays in the interface clicking around.
是软件臃肿啊，Anon。计算机的内存会翻倍，而那些该死的软件开发者会把内存占用增加到四倍，以至于用4nm CPU和M.2驱动的笔记本在界面点击时都会卡顿。
>>109360935
not av1 tho, you use h264dify extension
不过不是AV1，你用的是h264ify扩展
>>109360777
It's more than browsing and using a WM from the 2000s.
这不仅仅是浏览网页和使用2000年代的窗口管理器。
>>109360884
Planned fecal obeisance, tardvaark.
预设的粪便式臣服，白痴。
>>109360637
>>109360686
stop talking about it I don't want any fucking retards migrating
别再说这个了，我可不想让任何该死的傻逼迁移过来
>>109361026
too late, here i come :^)
太晚了，我来了 :^)
>>109360698
Any gains are nullified by software bloat
任何性能提升都被软件臃肿抵消了
>>109361026
I would rather post with the retards here than the tranny pseuds over there. People here are at least occasionally funny.
我宁愿和这里的傻逼们发帖，也不愿和那边的跨性别伪君子们混。这里的人至少偶尔挺搞笑的。
>>109361026
AAAAAIIIIEEEEEEE!!!
https://desuarchive.org/g/search/text/lainchan
>4786 results found
> 找到4786条结果
>>109360459
16/9 screen, YUCK
16:9屏幕，真恶心
>>109361917
are we serious now
我们现在是认真的吗
>>109361026
>no tooltips
> 没有工具提示
im migrating
我要迁移了
>>109360459
>Did technology plateau after this
> 技术在这之后就停滞了吗
Yes and it's not just laptops. Phones also had insane features and weren't just le slab. Desktop components were getting so good you could use the same GPU for a decade.
是的，而且不只是笔记本电脑。手机以前也有疯狂的功能，而不只是个大平板。桌面组件变得非常好，你可以用同一张显卡十年。
>>109360459
If you seriously think an x230 is usable in the year 2026, your fucking time is worthless.
如果你真的认为2026年还能用X230，那你他妈的时间就一文不值。
>>109360459
Should I use my x220 as daily driver?
我该把X220当作日常主力机吗？
>>109362145
Upgrade to a x230 and transplant the keyboard for the ultimate daily driver
升级到X230并移植键盘，打造终极日常主力机
>>109362145
buy an x230 and do the keyboard + plamrest swap, bonus points if you install canoeboot on it
买个X230，做键盘+掌托互换，如果你还给它装上canoeboot就加分了
>>109362133
it is if you do the quadcore cpu mod
如果你做了四核CPU改装，那它就是
>>109362133
>usable
> 可用
I'm using one right now, does that count?
我现在就在用这个，这算吗？
>time
>时间
It does everything I want it to instantly on lxqt, and it probably feels snappier than your modern shitbook running windows 11 tbqh no cap
在 lxqt 上它能把我要的所有功能瞬间搞定，说实话，跟你们那运行 Win11 的现代 shitbook 相比，体验明显更跟手，毫不夸张。
>>109362165
>>109362169
x230 has the same resolution, no?? So it doesn't make any difference.
x230 不也是同样的分辨率吗？？所以没什么区别啊。
I still have a t420 too, with the high resolution, but the laptop is scuffed and it's not as cute
我还有个 t420，高分屏的，但这笔记本做得太拉垮，而且没那么可爱了。
>>109362185
yes it have a 1366 x 768 display but there is an official ips option that looks much better
是的，它确实有个 1366x768 的屏幕，但有个官方的 IPS 选项，看起来好多了。
>>109362185
>resolution
>分辨率
It's the upgrade to Ivy Bridge CPU that makes the x230 cross the threshold to being usable as a modern daily driver, it has nothing to do with screen resolution kek
正是升级到 Ivy Bridge CPU 才让 x230 跨过门槛，能当作现代日常主力机使用，跟屏幕分辨率没关系，笑死。
>>109362201
>It's the upgrade to Ivy Bridge CPU
>升级到 Ivy Bridge CPU
i literally have no idea about that.
我对此完全一无所知。
I wrote my master thesis on this x220 in 2021 and did some mid-level FPGA dev.
我 2021 年就是在那台 x220 上写的硕士论文，还做了些中级 FPGA 开发。
I spent a trillion euros to upgrade to 16GiB and then it just worked kinda - at least that's what I remember
我砸了几万亿欧元升级到 16GB 内存，结果也就那样凑合能用——至少我记忆里是这样。
>>109362180
>>109362181
You are far better off buying a G6 x1 carbon instead. Literally better in every way plus the screen is larger than your micropenis and actually usable. The x220/230 form factor is fucking retarded. And this is coming from someone with an x220 that I threw in the fucking trash.
你最好买台 G6 x1 carbon。它在方方面面都更好，屏幕也比你的鸡巴还大，真正能用。x220/230 的形态简直是脑残。这话可是从一个把 x220 扔进垃圾堆的人嘴里说出来的。
>>109362212
It's a big upgrade especially for some modern software that will be sluggish on the x220, that's all.
这是一大升级，尤其是对于某些在 x220 上会很卡顿的现代软件来说，仅此而已。
If you are careful about what software you use then it doesn't matter
如果你小心选择使用的软件，那就不重要。
>>109362215
no canoeboot support thus it's shit
没有 canoeboot 支持，所以这玩意儿很烂。
>>109362050
I think smartphones peaked in 2016, around the Oneplus 3.
我觉得智能手机在 2016 年左右就到达巅峰了，大概是 Oneplus 3 那会儿。
Back then I had a phone I could unlock with sunglasses on. Nowadays I have to take them off to unlock my iPhone.
那时候我有部戴着墨镜也能解锁的手机。现在？我得摘了墨镜才能解锁我的 iPhone。
>>109362215
>G6 x1 carbon
G6 x1 碳纤维
Oh no no no no HAHAHAHAHA
>>109362221
nah they peaked in 2009 with the nokia n900
不，它们在 2009 年的诺基亚 N900 那里就巅峰了。
>>109360459
It did, for about 8 generations. Tiger lake saw about the same performance gain in one generation as all generations since ivy bridge combined.
确实，持续了大概 8 代。Tiger Lake 这一代带来的性能提升，相当于自 Ivy Bridge 以来所有代数的总和。
>>109362227
And? You lose 1 usb A and gain 2 thunderbolt. 100% superior tradeoff. Plus screen resolution that is actually usable.
所以呢？你少了 1 个 USB-A 口，多了 2 个雷电接口。这绝对是更优越的交易。再加上真正能用的屏幕分辨率。
>>109362239
you can upgrade to a higher res display with a hardware mod on the x230
你可以对 x230 进行硬件改装来升级更高分辨率的屏幕。
>>109362244
And you get a device with a smaller screen, unusable trackpad, keyboard that is not any better, and heavier. You aren't looking special, you are looking retarded. The days of the 220/230 being cool ended 10 fucking years ago.
然后你得到了一个屏幕更小、触控板没法用、键盘没什么提升、还更重的设备。你以为自己很酷，其实看起来很脑残。x220/230 那种酷炫的时代十年前就他妈结束了。
>>109362244
>you can [tinkertranny for a worse result]
>你可以 [折腾半天换来更烂的结果]
you do you, bud
你开心就好，兄弟。
>>109362257
>smaller screen
>更小的屏幕
good, i want my laptop to be portable
挺好，我希望我的笔记本便携一点。
>unusable trackpad
>没法用的触控板
it's a thinkpad, there's no point in getting one if you're not going to use the trackpoint
这是 ThinkPad，不用指点杆的话买它干嘛？
>keyboard that's not really better
>没那么好的键盘
lmao
笑死
>heavier
>更重
you mean buiild better and made to last
你是说做工更好、更耐用。
>>109362259
>worse
>更差
show us a better machine that has canoeboot support, i'll wait
拿个有 canoeboot 支持的好机器来秀，我等着。
>>109362275
x1g6 carbon is better, cope and seethe third worlder
x1g6 carbon 更好，cope and seethe 第三世界仔。
>>109362282
no canoeboot support so you're wrong
没有 canoeboot 支持，所以你说错了。
>>109362287
No one fucking cares about trannyboot, cope and seethe you arent sticking it to society by purposefully using a shitty laptop.
没人他妈的关心trannyboot，意淫吧，你故意用烂笔记本可不是在向社会复仇。
>>109362215
>x1 carbon
>x1 碳
I had one, the audio jack broke and was impossible to fix, then the speakers broke and were impossible to fix, then the keyboard broke and was impossible to fix, then the bluetooth stopped working and was impossible to fix, then the usb ports broke and now I literally can't use it at all. This all happened in the span of 3 years and is apparently not uncommon due to shitty components and the extremely retarded way it's assembled(everything is not only glued in but in reverse order so you have to entirely disassemble it to base components and empty the shell just to get to the keyboard or trackpad)
我买过一台，音频接口坏了而且修不了，接着扬声器坏了也修不了，然后键盘坏了还是修不了，蓝牙不能用了同样修不了，最后USB接口也废了，现在我根本没法用它。这一切都在三年内发生，而且据说挺常见的，因为它的元件太烂，组装方式也蠢得要死（所有东西不仅是用胶粘住的，而且安装顺序是反的，所以你为了拆下键盘或触控板，必须把整个机器拆成基础零件并把外壳清空）
Before it fell apart it was fucking great though, I got the hidpi screen and it was actually better than my desktop computer, gets so fucking red hot it practically glows though, no way you can actually use it on your lap for more than a few minutes at a time.
不过它在散架之前确实牛逼，我买了hidpi屏幕的版本，实际体验比我的台式机还好，但热量高得吓人，简直会发光，你根本没法把它放腿上用超过几分钟。
>>109362300
cope and seethe, enjoy your backdoored machine
意淫吧，好好享受你那台后门满满的机器吧
>>109360459
>Reddit on Google Chrome on Gentoo
>在Gentoo系统上用Google Chrome浏览Reddit
>>109362398
I found the photo on the internet.
我在网上找到了这张照片。
>>109362398
>irreparably outdated and obsolete hardware
>彻底过时且obsolete的硬件
>hailed by poorfags whose greatest level of computer is taking screenshots and posting them on /g/
>被那些最牛级别的电脑知识也就是截个图发在/g/的穷鬼们吹捧
>>109360635
dunno, I have a g75vw, 3610 inteljew cpu and use it as a bedside youtube machine. Granted, i wouldn't use it for much else, but it plays 1080p YT videos just fine.
不知道，我有台g75vw，3610 inteljew CPU，拿它当床头看YouTube的机器。话说回来，我也不指望它干别的了，但它播放1080p的YouTube视频完全没问题。
>>109362483
>poorfags
>穷鬼
these things cost $150 used poorfags aren't buying them
这些东西二手才卖150刀，穷鬼买不起
ok got it up and running. Lets try to use this entirely for coding for one week
好，搞定了。让我试着这一周全靠它写代码
>>109360522
16 to 25% all core usage depending on bitrate
全核心占用率16%到25%，取决于比特率
pretty respectable all things considered
综合考虑起来，表现还算不错
>>109360698
wake me up when linux gets ported to that thing (it won't since it's a mobile chip lmao)
等Linux移植到那个玩意儿上再叫醒我（不会有的，那是移动端芯片，笑死）
>>109360459
I've been daily driving a refurbished x230 tablet for several months now because I travel a lot for my job. Being able to practice drawing on the go without having to carry a clunky usb drawing pad everywhere is so nice. I don't even turn on my desktop when I get back home anymore, I just don't feel the need to. Best purchase of the year for me.
我已经把一台翻新x230平板当作主力机用了好几个月了，因为我工作经常出差。能随时随地画画，不用到处带着笨重的USB手绘板，感觉真好。我现在回家甚至都不开台式机了，因为我觉得没必要。这是我今年最好的投资。
>>109360522
>>109360635
>>109362518
get the H264ify enhanced browser extension. It forces all youtube video into avc1 and keeps the old cpu of the x230 nice and cool.
装个H264ify增强版浏览器扩展。它能把所有YouTube视频强制转为avc1编码，让x230那老CPU保持凉爽。
>>109362564
No, mommy buys it for them and they keep them for 15 years past their useful date because they can't afford anything better.
没有，是他们老妈给买的，而且他们因为买不起更好的，会把东西用报废日期过去15年。
>>109362743
>just force youtube to use a shittier codec that looks worse because ewaste can't handle the non-shit codecs
>因为垃圾电子废料处理不了那些非烂编码，所以强行让YouTube用画质更差的编码
>>109360635
>It doesn't have the hardware decoders for that so you have to be tethered to the wall while doing that else the CPU will sap the battery in 30 minutes.
>因为它没有那部分的硬件解码器，所以你必须插着电源用，不然CPU会把电量在30分钟内榨干。
it's more like 2.5 hours of battery if you don't have an expanded battery pack
如果没有扩展电池包，续航大概也就2.5小时左右
>tethered to the wall
>插着电源用
power banks exist
移动电源是干嘛吃的
>>109362275
Using the trackpoint literally cured my hand tendonitis I got from heavy mouse usage. Using the thumb for clicks is so much better for the hand than using the index finger.
用轨迹点简直治好了我因狂用鼠标落下的手腱鞘炎。用拇指点击比用食指好太多了。
>>109362746
>that looks worse
>看起来更糟了
lol no
哈哈 不
>>109362746
all the yt codecs look the exact same.
所有 yt 编解码器看起来都一样。
>>109362614
>pretty respectable
>相当不错
No.
>all things considered
>综合来看
I suppose.
我猜是吧。
>>109362779
cap
扯淡
>>109362746
I'm glad your favorite meme format looks better at similar file sizes but we could make it look the same and it would be smaller which saves us more money.
我很高兴你最爱的梗图在相近文件大小下看起来更好，但我们可以让它看起来一样小，这样能省更多钱。
https is a meme protocol i think we should stick to http with browser extension to encrypt traffic using caesar cypher
https 是个梗协议，我觉得我们应该坚持用 http，靠浏览器扩展用凯撒密码加密流量
>>109362846
is this ironic?
这是在反讽吗？
>>109362864
>>109362779
>>109362765
Why do you insist on deluding yourself like this? Next you'll claim 2+2=3.5.
你为什么要固执地自欺欺人？下一步你该说 2+2=3.5 了吧。
>>109362941
i'm dead serious
我真的很认真
>>109362948
So are you claiming av1 doesn't manage smaller file sizes at similar image quality or that Google doesn't want to save money at every possible opportunity?
所以你是声称 av1 不能在相近画质下实现更小的文件大小，还是说 Google 不想抓住任何机会省钱？
>>109362754
>power banks exist
>移动电源是存在的
>USB-C in 2013
>>109362310
NTA, but coreboot--or any of its derivatives--alone does not remove all the proprietary firmware on the system. There's also the matter of blobs and CPU microcode, not to mention general, user-identifying habits on the network or the Internet in general. The coreboot project is neat, but fags should stop parroting the meme that it will suddenly make you untraceable to glowniggers.
不是你的错，但 coreboot——或其任何衍生版——单靠它并不能移除系统里所有的专有固件。还有 blobs 和 CPU 微代码的问题，更别提一般性的网络习惯或互联网层面的问题。coreboot 项目挺有意思，但傻逼们应该停止复读“它会让你瞬间让光头佬无法追踪”这种梗。
>>109362409
Post your own. Why make a point about the X230's (and Ivy Bridge systems') usability in current your if you yourself don't use one?
发你自己的啊。如果你自己都不用 X230（和 Ivy Bridge 系统），干嘛非要扯它现在的可用性？
>>109363073
>>109363060
unbuyable in most parts of the world
在世界大部分地区都买不到
>>109363060
No they don't, I've been trying to find one for years.
不，根本不存在，我找了好几年了。
>>109360459
>gentoo
>stinkpad
>臭键盘
Stop falling for every single /g/ meme
别上 /g/ 的梗当回事
>>109362975
what? you just get one with a plug socket
啥？你买个带插座的就行
>>109363073
>if you yourself don't use one?
>如果你自己都不用？
I do use one, I just didn't feel like taking a photo of it.
我确实在用，只是不想拍照而已。
Cope and seethe about it kek
破防吧，哭吧，哈哈
>yeah my thinkpad is fucking sick
>对，我的 thinkpad 酷毙了
>I only have to carry around 50lbs in accessories for it to properly work
>为了让它正常工作，我只得背着 50 磅的配件
You guys are so funny
你们真逗
>>109360459
>Did technology plateau after this
> 技术在这之后就停滞了吗
The audacity of saying this while having a 1366x768 screen, you people are the whole circus.
拿着 1366x768 的屏幕还敢这么说，你们这帮人简直是个马戏团。
>>109363156
Your eyes can't see higher than 480
你们的眼睛连 480 都看不清
>>109360522
Yeah, dav1d is good
是的，dav1d 不错
It actually has a harder time decoding h265 vs AV1
我有高清屏疲劳症，这是导致笔记本电池续航和发热问题的主要原因。
>>109363156
I have hidpi fatigue and it's a primary contributor to battery life and thermal issues on laptops.
我有高DPI疲劳问题，这也是笔记本电脑电池续航和发热问题的主要原因之一。
At 12.5 inches the biggest screen I'd want is like 1600x900.
12.5 英寸的话，我最想要的屏幕也就是 1600x900 左右。
>>109363279
/g/ consoomers will blow a gasket but you're right.
/g/ 的白痴消费者会气炸，但你说的没错。
720p ish is a perfectly fine resolution and it's nice to look at, no eyestrain
720p 左右的分辨率完全够用，看起来也很舒服，不伤眼
>>109360459
>dual-core in 2026
>2026 年还是双核
>>109363314
quad-core motherboards exists
四核主板是存在的
>>109363342
cool, but that's not what OP has
酷，但这不是 OP 有的东西
>>109363342
Spending money to upgrade a 2012 system to a slightly more performant state is retarded--especially so considering the fact that it will run even hotter. Just buy a quad-core system close enough to the specs you want, at a price that's sane.
花钱把 2012 年的老古董升级到性能稍微好点真是脑残——尤其是考虑到它会更热。直接买一台接近你想要的配置、价格合理的全新四核系统吧。
The latter principle applies to older models as well. It's retarded how some people buy for-parts models and spend money "restoring/modding" them. It's little more than LEGO for performative/consumer tech autists.
后一条原则同样适用于老款机型。有些人专买散件版然后花钱去“修复/改装”，真是蠢到家了。这不过是给那些搞表演型/消费级科技自闭症的家伙玩的乐高积木罢了。
>>109360459
>can't find the same features in a modern laptop
>在现代笔记本上找不到同样的配置
?
>>109363314
I can't imagine using a dual core CPU in 2026, eight cores is the bare minimum
我没法想象在2026年还用双核CPU，八核才是最低配置
>>109362281
goalposts successfully moved but also I have no idea what that is, nor do I care
目标确实被成功移走了，而且我根本不知道你在说什么，我也无所谓
>>109363533
a snowflake fork of trannyboot (libreboot)
这是trannyboot (libreboot) 的一个雪崩分支
>>109363477
Show me a modern laptop that has something like the ThinkLight.
给我看看哪款现代笔记本有类似ThinkLight的功能。
Also
还有
>physical wireless kill switch
>物理无线 kill switch
>kensington lock
>肯辛顿锁孔
>SD card reader
>SD卡读卡器
>multiple types of display output ports
>多种类型的显示输出接口
>>109360635
>disable AV1 on YouTube
>禁用YouTube上的AV1
>go about my day with an Ivy Bridge StinkPad from 2013
>带着我那台2013年的 Ivy Bridge 臭Pad过日子
AV1 offers zero (ZERO) benefit at the piss tiny bitrates Google is using at the sub-4K resolutions appropriate for that display
在谷歌为适合该显示屏的低于4K分辨率所使用的极低比特率下，AV1 毫无（零）好处
>>109363634
>not using invidious
>不用Invidious
>>109363477
does it have canoeboot support?
它支持canoeboot吗？
>>109363945
yes, you can put it in the boot of your canoe
是的，你可以把它塞进你皮划艇的船舱里
>>109364065
so you're saying that it can have a fully libre bios?
所以你的意思是它能有完全自由的bios？
>>109363629
>ThinkLight
>思光
this is never going back
这东西再也回不去了
>physical wireless kill switch
>物理无线 kill switch
best you can do is to have the wireless disabled by default on boot (only turn it on when you need it)
你能做的最好的就是启动时默认禁用无线（仅在需要时开启）
the rest you can still easily get but not in one perfect modern machine
其他功能你还是可以轻松找到，只是无法在一台完美的现代机器上集齐
>>109360459
Snailcat device
Snailcat 设备
>>109360459
>knows how to use gentoo
>知道怎么用 gentoo
>still using chrome
>还在用 chrome
>browses reddit
>逛 reddit
>>109364075
nothing after core 2 has a truly "fully libre" bios
除了 Core 2 之后的设备，没有哪款拥有真正“完全自由”的 bios
>>109364624
>amd
lmao
笑死
>>109360617
>>109360635
The laptop is 2012 not 2002 you retarded faggots.
这台笔记本是2012年的，不是2002年的，你们这群蠢货。
>>109364571
canoeboot on the x230 is libre
x230 上的 canoeboot 是自由的
>>109360459
>>still holds up in 2026
>>直到2026年依然能打
You fags are not serious
你们这帮gay子一点都不严肃
The only legitimate reason to use one of these things is if you're a pedo or something and you want to coreboot/libreboot it
使用这些东西唯一合理的理由就是你是个恋童癖之类的变态，想把它刷成 coreboot/libreboot
Anything else is trend chaser nonsense by pseuds
其他一切不过是伪君子的跟风胡扯
>>109365046
I keep a MacBook Pro from 2012 around for the odd stone age FireWire device I'm given to troubleshoot so I don't have to waste 4-8 PCI-e lanes on a $50 1x 1394b card. And for the HFS/APFS drives. It's perfectly cromulent for web browsing and the matte screen is kinda nice.
我保留着一台2012年的 MacBook Pro，以便偶尔得去调试那些老掉牙的 FireWire 设备，这样我就不必为了装一张50美元的1x 1394b卡而浪费4-8条 PCI-e 通道。也是为了 HFS/APFS 硬盘。它用来浏览网页完全够用，而且那块雾面屏幕也挺不错。
they got smaller and more energy effecient but locked down more
它们变得更小、更节能了，但锁得更死
>>109362968
>inane gibberish
>废话连篇
why do you insist on pretending h264 is better than vp9 and av1 just because your ewaste hardware can't run the latter?
你为什么要硬装出 h264 比 vp9 和 av1 更好的样子，就因为你那堆电子垃圾硬件跑不动后两者吗？
>>109365016
Intel ME is not libre
Intel ME 不是自由的
>>109363629
>>kensington lock
>>肯辛顿锁孔
why would a fucking normie EVER need that?
一个他妈的正常人 EVER 需要那东西干嘛？
Will we ever make old tech last forever? I wish I could use my old laptop forever without hardware or software obsolescence.
我们能不能让旧科技永远不过时？我希望我的旧笔记本能永远用下去，不会遇到硬件或软件过时的情况。
>>109365995
Somehow freetards don't care about preinstalled proprietary software, because they consider it part of the hardware. Even when it's a literal backdoor like ME.
自由软件白痴们并不在乎预装的专有软件，因为他们觉得那是硬件的一部分。即使像 ME 那样是字面意义上的后门。
They happily run Intel ME, the outdated and insecure proprietary firmware in their atheros WiFi chip, ssd and other devices. As long as the software isn't installed by them or loaded by the OS they are OK with.
他们欣然运行 Intel ME，以及 Atheros WiFi 芯片、SSD 和其他设备中过时且不安全的专有固件。只要软件不是他们自己安装的，也不是由操作系统加载的，他们就觉得很 OK。
>firefox and libreoffice update
>firefox 和 libreoffice 更新
>laptop becomes firebrick paperweight for 56 hours
>笔记本变成火砖般的纸镇长达56小时
>>109366080
most hardware from the 2010s will probably outlive you if you don't subject it to insane temperatures
如果你不把它们放在极端高温下，2010年代的大多数硬件可能比你还长寿
>>109364624
we're talking about intel chips
我们说的是英特尔芯片
>>109365016
it still has several blobs
它仍然有几个二进制_blob_
>>109360635
Why are zoomers like this?
为什么Z世代（Zoomers）都这样？
>>109360459
Laptops really got shite. I still have a 2009 packard bell I run Linux on.
现在的笔记本真是垃圾。我还有一台2009年的Packard Bell，在上面跑Linux。
Nowadays you dont even have a LAN port or an insane number of USB port.
现在你连个LAN口或者一堆USB口都别想了。
I guess because Tablets also died so industry decided to merge the two.
我猜是因为平板电脑也死掉了，所以行业决定把两者合并。
>>109360459
>X220
>not getting the T420
>不买T420
Is your dick small?
你那话儿很小吗？
>>109360522
As thin client it does.
作为瘦客户端确实可以。
>>109360551
No it can't handle 4K av1 or VP9 stop making lies.
不，它处理不了4K av1或VP9，别瞎扯了。
>>109360635
>It's aesthetic and I like it but no, it sucks.
>它看起来不错我也喜欢，但不，它很烂。
You don't know how to use it then.
那你不会用呗。
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