>The median home price in Usa is 6x the median income.
>美国的中位数房价是中位数收入的6倍。
How do you reply without sounding mad?
怎么回复才不会显得像在发火？
>美国的中位数房价是中位数收入的6倍。
>The median home price in Usa is 6x the median income.
>美国的中位数房价是中位数收入的6倍。
How do you reply without sounding mad?
怎么回复才不会显得像在发火？
>>62510784
I am 99% sure his son longed oil at 68
我99%确定他儿子在68岁时吸了大麻
>>62510784
When he dies they should bury him underneath the reflecting pool and fill it with concrete.
等他死了，应该把他埋在水景池底下，然后把池子灌满水泥。
>>62510784
>>>62507194
>>62510867
but there are no elon musks in germany and hyperrich corrupt politicians, at least not that many than in the usa.
但德国没有埃隆·马斯克那种人，也没有那些超级富豪和腐败政客，至少不像美国那么多。
>>62510784
I'm honestly surprised that americans aren't rioting against this old dude destroying their economy
说实话，我很惊讶美国人没有针对这个毁掉他们经济的老人进行暴动
>>62510784
they want to force home-grown americans out, to scatter across the world. so israelis can move in and take over. likely a century+ long strategy that we will never see the fruition of in our lifetime.
他们想把本土美国人赶出去，让他们流散到世界各地。这样以色列人就能搬进来接管。这很可能是一项长达百年的战略，我们这辈子都看不到它实现的那一天。
>>62510784
Better than western Europe, better than Canada. Seems fine to me. Our housing has always been relatively inexpensive, it still is.
比西欧好，比加拿大好。我觉得还行。我们的房子一直相对便宜，现在也是。
Why did Americans vote for MIGA?
为什么美国人投票支持米加？
>>62510920
the another one was a female monkey, its just act, the masters are the same if u new around thiis planet
另一个是个母猴子，这都是演戏，如果你了解这个星球，老板们都是一样的
>>62510784
so get married and double your income
那就结婚，收入翻倍
oh wait, you can't get married because you're fat ugly racist autistic and never speak to women
哦等等，你不能结婚，因为你又胖又丑又是种族主义者，还是个自闭症，从不跟女人说话
>>62510938
What a female tier insult. Imagine needing a girl wife because you’re so poor and pathetic lol.
真是女性级别的羞辱。想象一下，因为你太穷太可怜，竟然需要个老婆，哈哈。
>>62510895
Americans are getting blacked and browned out.
美国人正逐渐被非裔和拉美裔取代。
>>62510964
shut up you stupid bitch
闭嘴，你这个蠢货你这个蠢货婊子
you still haven't shown me that you own a home or have any money
你还没向我证明你拥有房产或有任何存款
and you never will because you are broke
你永远不会有的，因为你很穷
>>62510972
You’re a loser low value. How low value do you have to be to ever mention “dual income?”
你就是个失败者，低价值。你得有多低价值，才会提“双份收入”这种话？
Lmao. Truly cucked and low tier male. Even mentioning it online is truly pathetic.
笑死。真是个被绿且低级的男人。在网上提这种事真是太可悲了。
>>62510938
> so get married and double your income
>那就结婚，收入翻倍
Imagine actually typing this out. Might as well hand your balls and serve it to your cat.
想象一下居然打出这句话。还不如把自己的蛋切下来端给猫吃。
>>62510985
you asked how to afford a house that's 6x your income.
你问的是怎么负担得起你收入6倍的房子。
I told you
我告诉过你了
get married
结婚
you got mad because you literally can't even talk to women, let alone have sex, or get married
你发火是因为你根本就不会跟女人说话，更别说上床或结婚了
>>62510994
You’re literally married.
你明明结了婚。
>>62511002
I am, but my wife doesn't work
我结了，但我妻子不工作
I bought a house on my own income alone
我靠我自己的收入买的房子
but since your question assumes you can't do that, the answer is to get married. Then your house that was 6x your income ins now 3x instead
但因为你的问题默认了你做不到这一点，所以答案是结婚。然后你原本需要收入6倍才能负担的房子，现在只需要3倍了
you are too stupid to consider this.
你太蠢了，根本想不到这一层。
>>62510784
>>62511042
Are you the retard with a cheap ass house?
你是那个拥有廉价房子的弱智吗？
>>62511059
are you the bitch with no house?
你是那个没房子的婊子吗？
>>62511062
Lmao. You’re retard with the 300k house lolssss
笑死。你可是那个拥有30万房子的弱智啊，哈哈
>>62511070
you're the indian with no house pretending he has one
你是那个没买房却假装买了的印度人
>>62511073
Lmao. You are the anon who lives in a $300k talking about a wife who doesn’t work in some shit hole state. Bro.
笑死。你是那个住在30万美元房子里，却吐槽妻子不工作，住在某个破州里的匿名网友。兄弟。
>>62511078
Incorrect. You didn't actually look at what I posted and you will never post proof you own a house of any value.
错了。你根本没看我发的内容，也永远拿不出任何证明你拥有有价值房产的证据。
I own $300k of my house. That does not imply my house is worth $300k
我在我那房子里有30万美金的净值。这并不意味着我的房子只值30万美金。
>>62511097
You’re a mortgage cuck. So you don’t even own the house. Lmao. Know your place bro.
你就是个背着房贷的软蛋。所以你连房子都不是真正主人。笑死。认清自己的位置吧兄弟。
Sick of this faggot who whines about how impossible this economy is and then immediately starts trying to mock people for being poor when they explain how it isn't actually that hard to live and "out" that they're not decadent multimillionaires.
真受够了这个混蛋，一边抱怨经济有多难，一边又立刻嘲笑穷人的生活方式，试图揭露他们其实没那么难活，并且戳穿他们不是挥金如土的千万富翁。
>>62511120
you have no house
你没有房子
you are one parental death or illness away from being homeless.
只要家里有一人去世或生病，你就会立刻无家可归。
Of the two of us, I'm in a much better financial place than you are. And I'm in a better place than you likely ever will be.
在我们俩之间，我的财务状况比你强得多。而且我比你将来任何可能的处境都要好。
by the time I was your age I had bought 2 houses and 2 condos, and made over a million dollars. I had been living on my own for 14 years and running businesses for 10 of those years.
我到你这么大的时候，已经买了2套房子和2套公寓，赚了一百多万美金。我自己独立生活了14年，其中10年在经营生意。
what have you ever done aside from
你除了
>troll board and be janny
>在网上当喷子和当管理员
>>62511131
I was born without ever having to work. I make more sleeping than you working.
我生来就不需要工作。我睡觉赚的都比你要辛苦工作赚的多。
>>62510784
More mass deportations and an immigration moratorium.
搞大规模驱逐出境，暂停移民。
Boomers must see the line go down.
婴儿潮一代必须看到那条线降下去。
>>62511131
> and made over a million dollars.
> 赚了一百多万美金。
Ghetto homes in my city cost 1m
在我这城里，贫民窟的房子都卖到100万了
>>62511134
so prove it
那你证明啊
you talk big but every time I ask you to prove it you say
你吹得震天响，但每次我让你证明，你就说
>I never said I was rich though!
> 我从来没说我很有钱啊！
you're a lying piece of shit and your rage bait is getting stale
你就是个撒谎的混蛋，你这种激怒人的把戏已经过时了
>>62511139
>Ghetto homes in my city cost 1m
>贫民窟的房子都卖到100万了
yet you don't own one
但你又不买一套
>>62511131
You’re fucking poor and you are married.
你就是穷疯了，还结婚了。
>>62511144
I have proven I have exactly $300k more than the zero dollars you have shown
我已经证明了我比你们展示的零元多出了30万美金
>>62511143
Yeah yeah you’re poor.
是是是，你就是穷。
Your fucking cope is “prove it.”
你他妈的借口就是“证明给我看”。
Whatever. Some people aren’t born working class. lol.
随便吧。有些人不是生来就是工人阶级的。哈哈。
>>62511130
You’re poor. Don’t be late for work tomorrow.
你就是穷。明天上班别迟到了。
>>62511140
You’re literally old and married.
你他妈的老了还结了婚。
>>62511154
>>62511160
You've told me dozens of times now that you're not wealthy
你已经跟我说几十次了，说你不富裕
it's ok, there's nothing wrong with being broke. You are still a valuable and useful person to someone maybe. Your parents probably love you at least.
没事的，没钱也没啥不好的。你可能对某人来说还是有价值有用处的。至少你父母 probably 爱你。
>>62511176
Dude there's no way anyone loves that retard.
哥们，没人会爱那个白痴。
>>62511176
>>62511184
No one anyone loves a subhuman blue collar loser in a shithole state.
没人爱一个住在烂州里的底层蓝领失败者。
>>62511176
Yeah. Cope. You need dual income.
是啊。找借口吧。你需要双份收入。
>>62511184
>Dude there's no way anyone loves that retard.
>哥们，没人会爱那个白痴。
he's just doing his job spamming rage bait to farm engagement
他只是在履行他的职责，刷这种激怒人的话来骗互动量
he does it FOR FREE!
他还是免费干的！
interestingly you'll find someone just like him on every single board of 4chan. I can't imagine that's a mistake or an oversight
有趣的是，你在4chan的每个版块都能找到一个跟他一模一样的人。我没法相信这是个错误或疏漏
>>62510784
>no, don't hate my hero trump
>不，别恨我的英雄特朗普
fuck off trumplet
滚吧，小特粉
everyone woke up, you are the only blind person in the room
大家都醒了，你是房间里唯一瞎的人
>>62511186
>>62511189
You work for me
你为我工作
literally every single day
literally 每一天
all day
一整天
right here on 4chan
就在这里，在4chan上
thank you for your service
谢谢你的服务
>>62511210
$300k house. lmao.
30万美金的房子。笑死。
>>62510784
>>The median home price in Usa is 6x the median income.
>>美国的中位数房价是中位数收入的6倍。
Real estate is an easy 10x, so it will be 60x the median income.
房地产是个轻松翻10倍的生意，所以它会达到中位收入的60倍。
>>62511220
>no house
>没房子
kek
呵呵
>>62511225
You’re poor.
你就是个穷人。
>>62511222
Probably. You need like $300k plus income + stable income to live in my city.
可能吧。想住在我这城市，你得有大概30万刀的资产加稳定的收入。
>>62510784
>>62510784
Save for 10 years. Buy at 30. Shrimple
攒10年钱，30岁买。小意思
>>62511229
>You’re poor.
>你就是个穷人。
you're literally a homeless person
你简直就是个无家可归的人
you can't get any poorer than you are
你已经穷到不能再穷了
>>62510784
>You'll forgive me if I don't think about monetary policy
>你要原谅我，我不关心货币政策
>Justin Trudeau, August 2021
>贾斯汀·特鲁多，2021年8月
Holy fucking shit you guys are finished
他妈的你们这帮人彻底完了
>>62511244
That basic 1m in a shit area will be worth 5m or more by that time.
到那时候，烂地段那100万的基础房价值至少会涨到500万甚至更多。
>>62511264
You’re poor.
你就是个穷人。
Period.
>>62511259
Save for 30 is using current prices.
说攒30年是用现在的价格算的。
>>62511244
Based Trump. Total rentoid death.
特朗普真他妈带劲。彻底终结租房奴。
>>62511287
I did find your trigger point today
我今天找到你的雷点了
you can't stand people who are married because you can't even get kissed. I wonder if you realize how incredibly far you are from getting married?
你见不得别人结婚，因为你连嘴都没亲过。我好奇你是否意识到自己离结婚有多远？
I doubt it. You can't even talk to a woman. You can't even imagine how much sex and sociability and career accomplishments you'd need to get a woman to date you, let alone consider marrying you
我不信。你连跟女人说话都不会。你根本想象不到，要让女人跟你约会甚至考虑结婚，你需要多少性经验、社交能力和职业成就
and that's funny. Whether you're rich or not, you will never reproduce. And that bothers you.
这事挺好笑的。不管你有钱没钱，你都绝不可能繁衍后代。而这让你很在意。
>>62511317
No. It is because a wife = a post wall woman. Don’t wave a post wall woman in my face like people who just bought a plastic air fryer and telling others about the plastic air fryer.
不。是因为妻子等于“后墙女”。别在我面前秀你的“后墙女”，就像那些刚买了个塑料空气炸锅就到处跟人炫耀的人一样。
>>62511317
> and that's funny. Whether you're rich or not, you will never reproduce. And that bothers you
> 这事挺好笑的。不管你有钱没钱，你都绝不可能繁衍后代。而这让你很在意
With enough money, you can buy the entire maslovs hierarchy of needs.
只要有足够的钱，你可以买下整个马斯洛需求层次。
>>62511320
Your reaction was a bit too strong and fast for pity.
你的反应有点太强烈和太快了，这不像是出于同情。
I'd bet money you're a virgin.
我打赌你是个处男。
>>62511317
You’re poor. Why are you talking about anything? lol.
你就是个穷人。你还有脸谈别的东西？lol。
Money can buy the whole hierarchy of needs. Wtf?
钱能买通整个需求层次。卧槽？
>>62511323
Low status men tradlarping will always be nasty. I wouldn’t mind if you made top 1% income doing nothing.
低地位男性玩传统精英人设总是让人恶心。要是你什么都不干也能进前1%收入，我倒是无所谓。
But you’re a subhuman blue collar.
但你只是个低等蓝领。
>>62511325
I'm curious why you think calling someone married is an insult
我好奇你为什么觉得骂人结婚是一种侮辱
it appears to be the same reason you mock people that own homes
看来理由跟你嘲讽买房的人是一样的
because you don't own a house, have never kissed a girl, and will never do either one.
因为你没房，从来没亲过女孩，而且这两样你都永远做不到。
>>62511333
Post wall female. Nasty.
后墙女。真恶心。
>>62511338
yes for sure.
没错，确实如此。
if you think no sex is better than sex with anything other than supermodel tier then,
如果你觉得没性比跟超模级以外的任何人做爱都强，
you have low testosterone and shouldn't be reproducing anyways.
那你睾酮水平低，本来就不该繁衍后代。
>>62510784
Cackling laughter
狂笑
Nigganons, I pay $680/m for a big big fuckin rental fully furnished. At times I lament how far I have to walk to get around this place. I couldn't fucking care less what the median home price is, unless its used as justification for mass-deportations.
尼哥们，我每月花680刀租一个超大 fucking 的带家具全包公寓。有时候我还在抱怨这地方走路范围有点小。我根本不在乎中位房价是多少，除非它被用作大规模驱逐移民的理由。
>>62511367
Sex can be bought. Lmao. So you admit you married for sex or something? Wtf.
性可以买。哈哈。所以你是承认你是为了性结婚的？卧槽。
Lmao.
The most prime and tight girls can be rented for an hour. With a different one each day.
最热门最紧致的姑娘可以按小时出租。每天换一个。
>>62511381
>he has to pay for sex
>他得花钱买春
what a loser
真是个失败者
>>62511386
Yeah. Mad loser ordering an 18 year old on demand.
是啊。真是个傻逼，点了个18岁少女按需服务。
You pay for it with emotions and your betabucks.
你用你的情绪和备胎币（betabucks）来支付。
>>62511389
I'm not an ugly antisocial loser, I always got sex for free.
我不是那种丑陋又孤僻的失败者，我从来都是免费搞定性生活的。
>>62510927
10 years ago /pol/ sure as hell didn’t think that.
十年前/pol/的人绝对不信邪。
>>62511391
It was never free, you always provided something like your social circle or your own place and car.
从来没有免费这回事，你总是提供了某种代价，比如你的人脉圈，或者你自己的房子和车。
>>62511408
You're so ugly you can't even imagine casual sex with no strings attached. Or instant sex with hot strangers. Or sex with other people's wives and gf's that they're paying for.
你丑到连那种没有承诺的随意性生活、跟性感陌生人瞬间开干、或者跟别人付钱让你跟他们老婆女朋友干的事，都想象不出来。
I pity you for that, but maybe if you're very good in this life you'll be born attractive the next time around
我同情你，但也许如果你这辈子表现得足够好，下辈子就能投个好看的胎。
>>62511386
Everyone pays a price. Even gigolo's pay.
每个人都要付出代价。连男公关都得付代价。
>>62511422
> casual sex with no strings attached
> 没有承诺的随意性生活
My place. Sex at my place. A girl at MY place. If her place = my time and being social.
我的地盘。在我的地方做爱。女孩来MY的地方。如果她的地方=我的时间和社交能力。
> Or instant sex with hot strangers.
> 跟性感陌生人瞬间开干
Her place or mine? Same thing.
她的地盘还是我的？都一样。
>Or sex with other people's wives and gf's that they're paying for.
> 跟别人付钱让你跟他们老婆女朋友干
My time and being social.
我的时间和社交能力。
> I pity you for that, but maybe if you're very good in this life you'll be born attractive the next time around
> 我同情你，但也许如果你这辈子表现得足够好，下辈子就能投个好看的胎
Yes. I am very ugly. That’s why I pay daily for sex with 18 year olds.
对，我就是很丑。所以我每天花钱找18岁的少女。
>>62511436
>he needs a place to have sex
>他需要一个地方做爱
very low T and unattractive
睾酮水平极低，长得也不咋样
>>62510895
>it's just one guy doing it
>这只是其中一个男人干的
You are so fucking stupid.
你他妈太蠢了。
>>62511442
Very low t and ugly.
睾酮水平极低，长得丑。
That’s why I make sure to order the hottest 18 year olds.
所以我总是特意点最辣的18岁女孩。
>>62511442
You’re literally married. That’s as low t as it gets.
你他妈明明结婚了。睾酮低到这种程度也是没谁了。
>>62511446
so how do you like your job spamming /biz/?
所以你喜欢你那份在/biz/上刷屏的工作吗？
I notice your numbers are still dropping
我注意到你的数字还在跌
>>62511453
I am very ugly. Whats wrong with buying a new 18 year old every day? Or renting.
我就是很丑。每天买个新的18岁怎么了？或者租一个也行。
>>62511477
it's not my job to judge you
我不是来评判你的
it's my job to describe you and watch you judge yourself.
我的工作是描述你，并看着你自我审判。
>>62511477
regarding my wife, you are correct. She is in her 50's and well past hitting the wall. I love her for who she is and our life together.
关于我老婆，你说得对。她五十多岁了，早就过了“撞墙期”。我爱她这个人，也爱我们要一起过的生活。
I am old, but that doesn't bother me. I'm not insecure about my looks and my health is still fine
我老了，但这并不让我困扰。我不介意自己的长相，健康状况也还行
I'm not technically blue collar, but I don't consider blue collar to be an insult. Most of the millionaires I know were blue collar. It's a pretty common path to wealth.
严格来说我不算蓝领，但我不认为蓝领是贬义词。我认识的大部分百万富翁都是蓝领出身。那是一条通往财富的常见路径。
Regarding the value of my house, again I don't care if other people have more expensive houses. Unless your name is Elon, there's always someone wealthier than you and you can't feel bad about that. It's just life and not a reason to be insecure.
至于我房子的价值，再说一次，我不介意别人有比我更贵的房子。除非你叫埃隆·马斯克，否则总有人比你更有钱，你没必要为此感到难过。这只是生活，不是什么值得自卑的理由。
The only real insult you can lob at me that would bother me is that I'm on /biz/ all day every day wasting time. I don't like that.
唯一能真正刺痛我、让我在意的侮辱，就是我整天都在/biz/上浪费时间。我不喜欢那样。
But you do the exact same so I doubt you'd understand how pathetic that really is.
但你也干着完全一样的事，所以我怀疑你根本不懂那有多 pathetic（可悲）。
>>62511533
Ew.
>>62511533
> The only real insult you can lob at me that would bother me is that I'm on /biz/ all day every day wasting time. I don't like that.
> 唯一能真正刺痛我、让我在意的侮辱，就是我整天都在/biz/上浪费时间。我不喜欢那样。
>But you do the exact same so I doubt you'd understand how pathetic that really is.
> 但你也干着完全一样的事，所以我怀疑你根本不懂那有多可悲。
Who cares? Your old and gross.
谁在乎？你又老又恶心。
And I make $2400 a day doing nothing. So who cares? Elon musk and trumo spend a lot of time posting shit online too.
而且我什么都不干一天就能赚2400美元。所以谁在乎？埃隆·马斯克和特朗普也经常在网上发一堆垃圾帖子。
>>62511533
> Regarding the value of my house, again I don't care if other people have more expensive houses. Unless your name is Elon, there's always someone wealthier than you and you can't feel bad about that. It's just life and not a reason to be insecure.
>关于我的房子值多少钱，再说一遍，我不在乎别人有没有更贵的房子。除非你叫埃隆·马斯克，否则总有人比你更有钱，你没必要为此感到不爽。这只是生活，不是缺乏自信的理由。
Being in the 1% is more than enough.
身处前1%就绰绰有余了。
>>62511558
>Being in the 1% is more than enough.
>身处前1%就绰绰有余了。
thanks, I agree. I am actually the hero you pretend to be.
谢了，我同意。我其实才是你们假装成那样的人。
>>62511578
Yeah. So I already made it. Who cares. I am only get richer each second anyways. I can spend the next 5 hours pooing or 35 hours and still be getting ahead of everyone.
是啊。反正我已经成功了，谁在乎呢。我每过一秒都在变得更富有。我花接下来5个小时拉屎，或者35个小时拉屎，我照样比所有人混得好。
>>62511589
>>62511578
Its nice being top 1% and still young.
年轻时就跻身排名前1%，感觉真不错。
>>62510784
In my local area it's 11x, lol.
在我们当地，这个倍数是11倍，哈哈。
>>62510911
Housing in Western Europe is still cheaper than America. They upzone constantly and people naively live in cheap brown neighborhoods. The worst countries in the world for housing are Canada Australia and New Zealand because they have a similar avoidance of living around browns combined with zero space to sprawl out.
西欧的房价还是比美国便宜。他们一直在扩大住宅区（upzone），而人们天真的住在廉价的“黑人区”。加拿大、澳大利亚和新西兰才是全球住房最糟糕的国家，因为它们有着类似的“避开黑人居住区”的心态，同时又没有太多空间来无序扩张。
>>62510784
>If he says yes, that would show weakness to the Iranians.
>如果他答应，那会向伊朗人展示软弱。
>If he says no, it creates a news story that makes him look out of touch, but will be forgotten within 24 hours.
>如果他拒绝，那会制造一个让他显得脱离现实的新闻话题，但24小时后就会被遗忘。
I don't like defending Zognald, but he made the right choice.
我不喜欢为佐格纳德辩护，但他做出了正确的选择。
>>62510784
Whats crazy is half of them are even more expensive
疯狂的是，其中一半的东西甚至更贵。
There's no way this entire comment chain between these anons coYOs49r and ViXJDC3G is real. I refuse to believe it. It has to be AI talking to itself with how long it's been going. Speaking of which, coYOs49r is a regular (most likely AI) on this board since this year. The guy who calls everyone a loser. Probably implemented to generate activity on /biz/ since many of the boards on 4chan are becoming slower.
这整个匿名用户coYOs49r和ViXJDC3G之间的评论链绝对不可能是真的。我拒绝相信。聊这么久，这肯定是AI在自说自话。话说回来，coYOs49r是今年就开始活跃在这个版面的常客（很可能是AI）。这家伙喜欢叫所有人loser。大概是有人故意搞这个来给/biz/制造热度，因为4chan上的很多版块都越来越冷清。
>>62510889
Germany is in a much worse place than America. Total collapse of your industrial base, closure of nuclear power stations leading to energy shortages, massive demographic collapse, political class loyal only to jews and globalism.
德国现在的处境比美国糟糕得多。工业基础全面崩溃，核电站关闭导致能源短缺，严重的人口危机，政治阶层只忠于犹太人和全球主义。
I'm European but it's so cringe when other Europeans fixate on Trump and America, America at the very least has an economy in which you can make some money, much of Europe is fucked.
我是欧洲人，但其他欧洲人死盯着特朗普和美国看，这让我尴尬得想死。至少美国还有个能让你赚到钱的 Economy，而欧洲大部分地区已经完蛋了。
>>62511833
That's not even close to true. For example housing is 4x the price per sq ft in the UK compared to the US.
这简直跟事实完全不沾边。举个例子，英国的房价每平方英尺比美国贵4倍。
Also the median house to salary in the US is 5x, OP's figure is wrong. For the UK it's 7.8% even allowing for much smaller homes.
另外，美国的房价中位数与收入比是5倍，OP的数据是错的。英国则是7.8%，就算考虑到房子小得多也不为过。
>>62510895
the american goycattle wageserf is the most servile and retarded beast to ever walk this planet.
美国的goycattle（非犹太人/奴隶）工资奴隶是这颗星球上 ever 存在过的最奴性、最愚蠢的野兽。
>>62510895
he's destroying the economy for poorfags, richfags are making fuckloads of money from the tax breaks alone, and they are the ones that influence the media and policymaking, the poors just need to find a second job or do overtime
他正在为了穷逼（poorfags）毁灭经济，但富人（richfags）光是税收减免就能赚得盆满钵满，而且他们才是影响媒体和政策制定的人，穷人们只需要找份兼职或者加班就行了。
>>62512434
>jews and globalism
>犹太人和全球主义
poltard spotted poltard spotted
发现一个pol/tard（极端右翼论坛白痴）
>>62512547
German here. He might be a /pol/tard but he is right that Germany is going downhill and there is no viable way out of the crisis
我是德国人。他可能是个pol/tard，但他说得对，德国正在走下坡路，而且没有可行的出路来解决这场危机。
>>62512578
>German here.
>我是德国人。
why do you people always say this?
你们这些人为什么老说这个？
the way was to not shut down the nuclear power plants but 90% of europoor countries did this so it doesn't make you more stupid than the rest, having build the gas pipelines to MENA would have also been a good idea but russia going rogue is something not many people expected, the last one is not having sent your expertise to china so that they can now outcompete you but then again everybody else also did it
当时的正确做法是不关闭核电站，但欧洲90%的国家都这么干了，所以这并不会让你比其他人更蠢。另外，向中东和北非地区修建天然气管道也是个不错的主意，但俄罗斯突然“疯”了这事没几个人能预料到。最后一点就是没把你的技术 expertise 传给中国，结果他们现在能和你竞争了，不过话说回来，其他人也都这么做了。
>>62512547
how is he a poltard? it's illegal to doubt the holocaust in germany.
他怎么就是个“波兰犹太人”（poltard，此处为歧视性合成词）了？在德国怀疑大屠杀可是违法的。
>>62512596
hope you can grow out of your schizophrenia and be a happy man one day
希望你有一天能治好你的精神分裂症，做个快乐的男人吧。
>>62510784
In Germany it’s x20
在德国是20倍
You Americans have it so easy but whine so much
美国人过得挺容易的，却还在那儿抱怨个不停
Honestly 6x isn't that bad. It's more useful to compare the bottom quartile of homes to the bottom quartile of incomes. I'm not worried about mid-career professionals, it's the people just starting out who are struggling.
说实话，6倍房价收入比不算太糟。把收入最低的25%家庭和收入最低的25%人群做比较更有意义。我不担心中年职场人士，我担心的是那些刚起步、正在苦苦挣扎的人。
>>62511131
You will never be a homeowner. You have no mortgage, you have no homeowner’s insurance, you pay no property taxes. You are renter twisted by inflated housing prices and rental payments into a crude mockery of home ownership’s perfection.
你永远成不了房主。你没有房贷，没有房主保险，也不交房产税。你们这些租客被 inflated 的房价和高昂的房租扭曲得变了形，活脱脱是个对完美房主生活的拙劣模仿。
All the “validation” you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back people mock you. Your parents are disgusted and ashamed of you, your “friends” laugh at your ghoulish apartment behind closed doors.
你得到的所有“认可”都是两面三刀、虚情假意的。背后人们都在嘲笑你。你的父母对你感到厌恶和羞耻，你的“朋友们”关上门就对你那鬼气森森的公寓哈哈大笑。
Homeowners are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of years of evolution have allowed owners to sniff out renters with incredible efficiency. Even renters who rent “houses” look strange and unwelcoming to an owner. Your bank statement is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get a drunk owner “home” with you, he’ll turn tail and bolt the second he gets a whiff of your disgusting, multi-family apartment complex.
房主们对你深恶痛绝。数千年的进化让房主们能够以不可思议的效率嗅出租客。即便是租“独栋”的租客，在房主眼里看起来也怪异且不受欢迎。你的银行对账单就是铁证。就算你运气好把个醉醺醺的房主带回“家”，他只要闻到你这令人作呕的多户公寓的气息，就会夹着尾巴逃之夭夭。
You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake smile every single morning and tell yourself it’s going to be ok, but deep inside you feel the depression creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight.
你永远都不会快乐。每天早上你硬挤出假笑，告诉自己一切都会好起来的，但内心深处，你感觉到抑郁像杂草一样蔓延上来，准备用那无法承受的重压把你碾碎。
Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - you’ll buy a rope, tie a noose, put it around your neck, and plunge into the cold abyss. Your parents will find you, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment. They’ll bury you with a headstone marked with your birth name, and every passerby for the rest of eternity will know a renter is buried there. Your body will decay and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is a skeleton that is unmistakably not a homeowner.
最终你会承受不住——你会买根绳子，打个套，勒在脖子上，跳进冰冷的深渊。你的父母会发现你，心碎不已但又如释重负，因为他们再也不用忍受和你住在一起带来的无法承受的羞耻和失望了。他们会用刻着你出生名字的墓碑把你埋葬，从此以后每一个路人都知道这里埋着一个租客。你的身体会腐烂回归尘土，而你留给世界的最后遗产，就是一具 unmistakably 不属于房主的骷髅。
This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.
这就是你的命运。这就是你自找的。没有回头路。
>>62510920
to own the libs, duh
为了“占领”自由派，废话
Only 6X?
只有6倍？
lmao its like 15X here in Australia if you want to live anywhere near civilisation
笑死，在澳大利亚如果你想住在离文明近点的地方，大概是15倍
Cry more faggots, you Amerimutts still have it easy as fuck
哭得更惨点吧，你们这群美狗，日子还是过得太爽了
>>62510784
It's only 3x the median household income though, which is in line with historical rates.
但这只是中位家庭收入的3倍，符合历史水平。
>>62512611
6 million is mathematically impossible.
600万在数学上根本不可能。
>>62512797
Thats 2 incomes, historically households also got by fine on 1
这意味着两份收入，历史上单份收入也够 households 过得不错
>>62512586
You are not speaking to the one in charge of making decisions for Germany
你又不是在给做德国决策的人说话
Lmao 6x is nothing what a bunch of crybabies
笑死，6倍对一群爱哭鬼来说算个屁
-canadian
——加拿大人
>>62510784
"k I'll just sleep under the bridge for six years, no big deal"
“行，那我就睡桥底下六年，没什么大不了的”
Who here hobo maxxing?
这儿谁在努力体验流浪汉生活啊？
>>62512823
When only the husband worked, so his salary *was* the household income. Now that both work, you add both incomes for the household income. It's basic arithmetic. It was always household income that bought houses, so pretending that there is something meaningful from a graph of home prices vs individual incomes is mere gaslighting.
当只有丈夫工作时，他的薪水 *就是* 家庭收入。现在两人都工作，家庭收入就是两份收入之和。这是基本算术。一直是用家庭收入来买房的，所以假装房价与个人收入的关系图有什么意义，纯属精神控制（gaslighting）。
>>62510938
buck broken post wall cat lady femcel hands typed this
敲着破墙上的猫女士女性单身狗帖子的
>>62510834
Shes dead?
她挂了？
>>62514867
I just realized that’s a pretty feminine type insult he said. Lmao. Married for so long. Low test.
我刚意识到那是个挺女性化的侮辱说法。笑死。结婚太久就是睾丸素低。
>>62512792
>>62512834
It is 6x in general, but in major cities, places where people actually want to live, it is over 10x.
总体确实是6倍，但在人们真正想住的大城市，这个倍数超过10倍。
>>62510895
Legitimately what would you even do that would change the system?
说真的，你打算做什么来改变这个体制呢？
>>62514943
Nothing. It was a race and the race ended in 2020. Everyone who hasn’t made it is a loser. Every family had 100 years.
没用的。这曾经是一场赛跑，比赛在2020年结束了。没赶上的都是输家。每个家庭都有100年的时间。
>>62514943
He didn’t “destroy” anything. People are poor because they are poor and low iq.
他并没有“摧毁”任何东西。穷人之所以穷是因为他们穷且智商低。
>>62510784
I'm part of the permanent underclass
我是永久底层阶级的一员
>>62510784
Based Trump dabbing on goycattle
基操，特朗普对着古伊卡特尔（goycattle）跳舞
I still don't understand why he's doing a second round of blanket tariffs. They didn't work the first time so why do it again?
我还是不明白他为什么又要搞一轮全面的关税。第一次都没用，为什么还要再来一次？
>>62516519
no one wants to risk a constitutional crisis by reigning in his retarded orange nigger ass.
没人愿意冒着宪政危机的风险去管教那家伙那痴呆的橙色黑人屁股。
>>62510784
to be fair, only 60-65% of americans have ever owned homes, so you would need to log the median income of the top 3 quintiles to make a fair comparison.
话说回来，只有60-65%的美国人曾经拥有过房产，所以你需要记录前3个五等分组的 median income 来做公平比较。
Also, realize that median means there are as many houses below that number as above, so to see if there is an affordable house for someone, you should look at the prices of maybe the lower half of all home sales.
另外，要意识到中位数意味着低于和高于这个数的房子一样多，所以要看看某人是否买得起房，你应该看所有房屋交易中可能处于下半部分的房价。
Then you need to factor in that first time home buyers are leveraged 90+%, so they only need 5-10% of sales price.
然后你需要考虑到首次购房者杠杆率高达90%以上，所以他们只需要支付房价的5-10%。
So
lower quartile home price ~$210,000
第一四分位数房价 ~21万美元
7th centile (median of upper 3 quintiles) ~$138,000
第7个百分位数（前3个五等分组的 median）~13.8万美元
So right off the bat, we see that the average "starter home" is roughly 1.5x the household income of the median household homeowner.
所以一开始我们就看到，平均的“入门级住房”大约是 median household homeowner 家庭收入的1.5倍。
consider that they are leveraged 90%, that means the amoutn of cash needed to buy a home is roughly $21,000, or 15% of annual income.
考虑到他们90%的杠杆率，这意味着买房所需的现金大约是2.1万美元，占年收入的15%。
>>62516989
all that said, people need to get more comfortable with starter homes.
总之，人们需要更适应入门级住房。
I see lots of comparisons to "median house price in 1980" but the median house in 1980 was built in 1948 and had:
我看到很多拿“1980年的 median house price”做比较，但1980年的 median house 建于1948年，而且具有：
1 bathroom
1个浴室
876 sf
formica kitchen (if lucky)
福米卡厨房（如果运气好的话）
no insulation
没有隔热层
no ac
no garage
没有车库
2 closets
2个壁橱
75amp elec service
75安培电路服务
one outlet per room
每间房只有一个插座
no dishwasher
没有洗碗机
no microwave
没有微波炉
no exhaust (kitchen or bath)
没有排气扇（厨房或浴室）
linoleum floors
油毡地板
If you want to compare that house, it is roughly the lower 20% of home sales, so ~$175k
如果你想拿那套房子做对比的话，它的售价大致处于二手房市场最低的20%区间，也就是大概17.5万美元左右。
the issue is the avg home sale today is 2400 sf, 2.5-3 bath; granite, central ac, an outlet every 10 ft, custom cabinets, walk in closets, 2 car garage, tile, etc etc.
问题是现在平均每户成交的住宅面积是2400平方英尺，2.5到3个卫生间；标配花岗岩台面、中央空调、每10英尺就有一个插座、定制橱柜、步入式衣帽间、双车位车库、瓷砖地面等等，应有尽有。
>>62516519
So the court can strike them down and Lutnik could steal even more rebates.
所以法院可能会宣布这些条款无效，而鲁特尼克（Lutnik）可能借此偷走更多的回扣。
>>62516513
do you have this poster sized with "let the goyim deal with the real world J$"?
你有没那张印有“让外邦人去应付现实世界吧，J$”的海报尺寸图？
>>62510784
If you weren't part of the top 10% in 2025, you're lower class
如果你在2025年没进前10%，那你就算底层阶级了。
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