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Questions for cyclospora outbreak experts:

请教环孢子虫疫情专家:

food · creigalt2 · 2026-07-21 12:00 · 26 帖 · 原文 ↗

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#1 Questions for cyclospora outbreak experts: / 请教环孢子虫疫情专家:
creigalt2 · 2026-07-21 12:00

Is it known whether any retail outlets are culprits besides Taco Bell?

除了塔可贝尔,大家知道还有哪些零售商有问题吗?

Is it known if there are any outbreaks from home food?

有人知道是否有家庭自制食品引发的爆发吗?

Is it known whether it's linked to heads of lettuce or pre-packaged shredded lettuce?

有人知道是否跟生菜头或预包装碎生菜有关吗?

Is it known whether there are definitely culprits other than lettuce?

有人知道肯定还有其他罪魁祸首吗,除了生菜?

#2 Answers for the stupid.......... / 给蠢货的答复…………
ex-flagger · 2026-07-21 12:18

No...

No....

No.....

No..........

Other than Mexico, no one knows where the outbreak came from! You're an IDIOT!

除了墨西哥,没人知道疫情是从哪来的!你是个白痴!

#3 So...you're unhelpful AND rude? § / 所以……你又没帮忙而且很粗鲁?§
creigalt2 · 2026-07-21 12:36
#4 So are you! § / 你也是!§
ex-flagger · 2026-07-21 12:37
#5 well, not really, they're valid questions... / 嗯,倒也不是,这些问题还挺靠谱的……
C-listseller · 2026-07-22 08:02

and a biologists at Rutgers says...

而罗格斯大学的生物学家说……

"Just because you're sick with Cyclospora right now doesn't mean that you're part of this cluster of cases that have an epicenter in Michigan and Ohio,"

“仅仅因为你现在感染了环孢子虫,并不意味着你就是密歇根和俄亥俄州疫情中心集群的一部分,”

He goes on to say, "Every summer since the 1990s there have been several cyclosporiasis outbreaks, unrelated to the source of this".

他接着说:“自20世纪90年代以来,每年夏天都会爆发几起新月孢子虫症疫情,而且这些疫情与这次的源头无关。”

#6 Wrong, the post belongs in healthFo / 错了,这帖子该发在healthFo
CassiniDestroyer · 2026-07-22 13:05

If that useless shithead had a brain, she'd know that.

要是那个没用的蠢货有点脑子的话,她就该知道这一点。

#7 Thanks, C. Ex-Flagger seems to be on the way / 谢谢,C。Ex-Flagger好像正在路上
creigalt2 · 2026-07-22 14:18

to becoming another one of my stalkers.

然后变成我跟踪的又一个对象。

I've noticed that he's mean to quite a few people.

我注意到他对不少人态度都很恶劣。

#8 You're a douchebag, why would anyone help you? / 你就是个混蛋,谁要帮你?
CassiniDestroyer · 2026-07-21 13:07

Ahole

#9 See? THAT is what it feels like every single day / 看?这就是你每天感受到的
absolutefutility · 2026-07-21 17:47

Being RIGHT when everyone else wants you to be wrong.

在大家都想让你错的时候,你偏要证明自己是正确的。

#10 The culprit is 3rd world hygiene. § / 罪魁祸首是第三世界卫生状况。§
RodAndRealz · 2026-07-21 12:39
#11 I just read about a Walmart recall this / 我刚才读到沃尔玛召回
EggmanWalrus · 2026-07-21 13:59

morning.

Certain salad packages tested positive for cyclospora. My state is affected, although I don't generally buy pre-shredded kits.

某些沙拉包装被检测出含有新月孢子虫。我所在的州也受到了影响,不过我平时一般不买预拌的沙拉包。

If you're hoping it's all over, I would say it's just starting.

如果你以为这事儿已经过去了,那我说它才刚刚开始。

#12 No, that's wrong information. § / 不,那是错误信息。
absolutefutility · 2026-07-21 17:45
#13 Thanks, but on a personal level, / 谢谢,但在个人层面上,
creigalt2 · 2026-07-21 18:26

I don't care about it for myself. I don't buy lettuce, for starters.

我自己倒不怎么在意。首先我就不买生菜。

I'm just objectively curious.

我只是出于客观的好奇心。

One thing I've wondered if whether people could sidestep the danger by discarding the few outer leaves, since I don't know if the whole thing would be contaminated.

我一直在想,如果扔掉外面那几片叶子,是不是就能避开风险,因为我不确定整颗生菜是否都被污染了。

But mostly, I have a hunch that it likely doesn't apply to households, and it likely doesn't apply to whole heads of lettuce.

但多半我有一种预感,这很可能不适用于家庭采购,也不太适用于整颗的生菜头。

#14 I think the scientific and medical community / 我认为科学和医学界
EggmanWalrus · 2026-07-22 04:06

are saying to wash everything thoroughly. But they've always said that.

大家一直都在说要彻底清洗所有食材。他们过去也一直是这么说的。

More importantly, people should completely discard any pre-packaged lettuce from Walmart in the affected states. Media sources were saying 17 states for Walmart products - according to the FDA it's really a couple dozen states. They still think it is coming from only one farm in Mexico, but in my view, it's still too soon to tell for certain.

更重要的是,在受影响的那些州,人们应该彻底丢弃任何沃尔玛出售的预包装生菜。媒体上说沃尔玛产品涉及17个州,但根据FDA的说法,实际上是几十上百个州。他们目前仍认为源头仅来自墨西哥的一家农场,但在我看来,现在下结论还为时过早。

One of the reason I don't buy pre-cut, bagged lettuces is that I don't trust that the contents have been washed thoroughly. I have no idea what the processing method is for pre-cut packages sold at places like Walmart, and I would rather not know because I might be alarmed.

我不买预包装切好生菜的原因之一,就是我不信任里面的生菜是否经过彻底清洗。对于沃尔玛这类地方出售的预包装切好生菜,我根本不知道它的加工流程是怎样的,我甚至宁愿不知道,因为可能会吓到我。

I don't know about simply removing outer leaves from a whole iceburg plant. I don't buy iceburg very often but when I do, I wash everything including the inner leaves all the way down to the discarded core, because of possible contamination by dirt, chemicals like pesticides, and bugs.

至于只是去掉整颗 iceberg 生菜的外叶,我不太确定行不行。我不常买 iceberg 生菜,但买的时候我会清洗每一片叶子,一直到那个要丢弃的菜芯,因为可能会有泥土、农药等化学物质以及昆虫的污染。

Here's the latest from the FDA. Click on the recall link to see which pre-shredded packages were recalled:

这是FDA的最新消息。点击召回链接查看哪些预拌沙拉包被召回:

https://www.fda.gov/food/outbreaks-foodborne-illness/investigation-5-state-outbreak-cyclospora-illnesses-iceberg-lettuce-july-2026

#15 They're also saying to cook everything past 158° / 不,那是你的故事,亲爱的。
C-listseller · 2026-07-22 08:07

YUCK!!! It's bad enough to eat yesterday's sam'ich with lettuce on it... much less cooking it... BLECH!!!

呸!!!吃个夹着生菜的隔夜三明治已经够恶心了……更别提还要拿它来炒菜了……呕!!!

#16 I don't buy pre-cut pre-bagged lettuce / 我不买预包装的切好生菜
creigalt2 · 2026-07-22 14:19

because I've read one or tow books about food contamination!

因为我读过一两本关于食品污染的書!

If my hunch is right, then the government is unnecessarily scaring the public.

如果我的预感是对的,那么政府就在毫无必要地吓唬公众。

#17 I doubt the government has any / 我怀疑政府有任何
EggmanWalrus · 2026-07-22 15:46

goal to realize by scaring the public.

通过吓唬公众来实现的目的。

They have reason to suspect that, as a possibility, the farm in Mexico is the only source, and in order to be safe people are avoiding foods from that farm, and recalls are going on. Hopefully they will continue to test samples. But no one in the government is saying they're not ruling out other possibilities. In fact, they're saying the opposite.

他们有理由怀疑墨西哥的那家农场可能是唯一来源,为了安全起见,人们正在避免食用该农场的产品,召回行动也在进行中。希望他们会继续对样本进行检测。但政府里没人说他们排除了其他可能性。事实上,他们的说法恰恰相反。

Because what the government or any private researchers have to go on, are reports based on symptoms expressed sometime within a couple of weeks of digesting certain foods. It's really hard to build an accurate roadmap unless people are symptomatic immediately. And with a week or two that can go by, it just stretches the possibilities in different directions due to other foods consumed from other sources in that timeframe.

因为政府或任何私人研究人员能依据的,是基于人们在食用某些食物后几天到几周内出现的症状所提交的报告。除非人们吃完后立刻就有症状,否则很难绘制出准确的路线图。再加上有一两周的延迟,由于这段时间内还摄入了其他来源的食物,各种可能性就变得更加复杂和分散了。

But really, any sort of contaminant like that can come from just about anywhere, and it would be unwise to assume that one farm in Mexico is the only source of this particular contaminant, or that it's just limited to products sold to Taco Bell.

但事实上,任何这类污染物都可能来自几乎任何地方,假设墨西哥的某一家农场是这种特定污染物的唯一来源,或者它仅仅局限于供应给塔可贝尔的产品,那是不明智的。

I believe this is not the only thing we will hear about this particular contaminant, let alone possibly others at some point.

我相信我们关于这种特定污染物听到的消息不止这些,更不用说将来还可能涉及其他污染物。

#18 Walmart per Taylor Farms. Iceberg lettuce. § / 沃尔玛根据泰勒 farms 的说法。冰山生菜。
Hoochy_Coochy · 2026-07-21 14:26
#19 There aren't any culprits! / 没有罪魁祸首!
absolutefutility · 2026-07-21 17:45

The test that blamed Walmart, Taco Bell, and Taylor Farms was FALSE.

指责沃尔玛、塔可贝尔和泰勒农场的那项检测结果是错误的(假阳性)。

You already know that.

你已经知道了。

#20 The people doing the testing / 进行测试的人
rayo · 2026-07-21 22:40

Will retest if they get a positive. So yes, they had it right the first time

如果再次检测出阳性就重新检测。所以说,他们第一次是对的。

#21 No, that's just stupid. / 不,那只是愚蠢。
absolutefutility · 2026-07-22 05:34

They tested it and got a FALSE positive. And you think that because the test was false that it was actually true?

他们进行了检测,得到了假阳性结果。而你认为因为检测是假的,所以实际情况就是真的?

Is there some medication you're supposed to be taking that you haven't been taking?

你是不是应该服用某种药物却没在吃?

#22 Gotta wonder how much of the "FALSE" in that / 忍不住想问“虚假”中有多少
C-listseller · 2026-07-22 08:14

positive was influenced by Taylor Farms donations to King KRusty's PAC...?

阳性结果受到了泰勒农场向“国王KRusty的竞选活动政治行动委员会”捐款的影響吗……?

The "company" (Emphasis on "not the owner") donated more than $3.6 million to conservative groups between 2020 and 2025, including $1 million to the MAGA Inc. super PAC prior to the outbreak...

这家“公司”(强调不是老板个人)在2020年至2025年间向保守派团体捐赠了360多万美元,包括在爆发前向MAGA Inc.超级政治行动委员会捐赠了100万美元……

That's a lot of lettuce to be throwing at someone who has influence over the agency who investigates these outbreaks...!

给那些对调查此类爆发的机构有影响力的人这么多生菜,真是够呛啊!

#23 That's not at all how that works, of course. / 当然,事情根本不是那样运作的。
absolutefutility · 2026-07-22 11:12

What you should wonder is how much of the positive was influenced by that same idea.

你应该思考的是,阳性结果在多大程度上受到了同样想法的影响。

Could you imagine if we have an administration now that wants to just start blackmailing companies that they'll "fail" their inspections? It is a very New York thing that Trump would totally do.

你敢想象如果我们现在有一届政府,想要开始勒索公司,威胁说会让他们“检查不合格”吗?这非常具有纽约特色,绝对是特朗普会干出来的事。

#24 The administration lies / 政府撒谎
rayo · 2026-07-21 22:35

They lie out of habit.

他们撒谎已成习惯。

Trust no one

别信任任何人

Signed - Doctor of Public Health

签名——公共卫生博士

#25 This is the president who dithered and lied / 这是那位犹豫不决且撒谎的总统
rayo · 2026-07-21 22:36

about COVID for 62 days

关于新冠长达62天

#26 And about everything else as well. § / 以及关于其他所有事情也撒谎。
creigalt2 · 2026-07-22 13:48
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