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4chan /news/ · Anonymous · 2026-08-20 12:37 · 48 帖 · 原文 ↗

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#1 /pol/ user artested / /pol/用户被“阿泰斯特”了(被捕)。
Anonymous · 2026-08-20 12:37

>Most prolific' member of online extremist network 764 sentenced to 77 years in prison

>网络极端组织764“最高产”成员被判77年监禁

https://abcnews.com/US/prolific-member-online-extremist-network-764-sentenced-77/story?id=135745443

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/news/1787229445844871.jpg

↳ #2 No.1531144
Anonymous · 2026-08-20 12:38

A federal judge has sentenced a 27-year-old Tennessee man to 77 years in prison for his targeting of young girls online as part of the extremist network 764, which the FBI deems a form of "modern-day terrorism."

一名27岁的田纳西州男子因在网络极端组织764中迫害年轻女孩,被联邦法官判处77年监禁。FBI称该组织是“现代恐怖主义”的一种形式。

The sentence handed down to Kyle Spitze on Wednesday marks the longest federal sentence so far for any associate of 764, whose mostly young followers around the world use popular social media platforms to methodically target, groom and push vulnerable teens into harming themselves and others.

周三对凯尔·斯皮策(Kyle Spitze)宣判的刑期,是目前764相关成员中获判最长的联邦刑期。该组织遍布全球的信徒大多是年轻人,利用主流社交媒体平台有计划地锁定、诱骗脆弱的青少年,推动他们伤害自己和他人。

"[Y]ou made sport of placing young minors in your own special 'hell' simply for the crime of being an insecure teenaged girl," prosecutors told Spitze in a memo before sentencing.

检方在量刑前提交的备忘录中告诉斯皮策:“你把未成年少女关进你自己的专属‘地狱’,以她们 insecure 的青春期少女心为乐。”

According to prosecutors, Spitze claimed online to have "groomed" more than 2,600 victims in the United States and overseas. Prosecutors said two of his victims ultimately took their own lives, believing "they would never be rid of his evil."

据检方称,斯皮策在网上声称自己已在美国及海外“诱骗”了2600多名受害者。检方表示,其中两名受害者最终自杀,因为她们相信“自己永远摆脱不了他的邪恶”。

While anyone can be targeted, members of 764 and similar online networks often target underage females, first befriending them and then using threats, blackmail, and other forms of manipulation to extort then into sharing or live-streaming acts of pornography, self-harm, animal torture, and even suicide, according to authorities.

据有关部门介绍,虽然任何人都可能成为目标,但764及类似网络组织的成员往往针对未成年女性,先跟她们交朋友,再用威胁、勒索等手段操控,逼她们分享或直播色情、自残、虐待动物甚至自杀的行为。

↳ #3 No.1531145
Anonymous · 2026-08-20 12:39

Recordings of such so-called "content" is then used to further extort victims and is often shared widely online to boost the perpetrator's status within 764-related communities, authorities say.

有关部门表示,这类所谓“内容”的录像随后被用来进一步勒索受害者,并经常在网上广泛传播,以提升施害者在764相关社群里的地位。

In their memo ahead of Spitze's sentencing, prosecutors said Spitze -- using the online moniker "Criminal" -- produced and distributed so much "content" that he became "the most prolific" member of 764 and an offshoot known as 'Harm Nation.'"

检方在量刑前备忘录中说,斯皮策——网名“Criminal”——制作并传播的“内容”之多,使他成为764及其分支“Harm Nation”中“最高产”的成员。

"The internet provided [Spitze] with unlimited access to his victims, allowing him to pursue and inflict harm on young girls without ever meeting them in person," prosecutors wrote.

检方写道:“互联网给了斯皮策无限接触受害者的机会,让他可以追逐并伤害年轻女孩,而从头到尾都不用跟她们见面。”

The FBI and Justice Department consider 764 part of an emerging national security threat called "nihilistic violent extremism," which is characterized by violence intended to undo society through the glorification and normalization of self-harm, animal abuse and mass murder.

FBI和司法部认为764属于一种新兴的国家安全威胁,叫“虚无主义暴力极端主义”(nihilistic violent extremism),其特征是通过美化和正常化自残、虐待动物和大规模杀戮,用暴力摧毁社会。

The FBI has said it currently has more than 450 cases open tied to nihilistic violent extremism -- nearly twice the number of cases just one year ago.

FBI表示,目前有超过450起与虚无主义暴力极端主义相关的在办案件——几乎是一年前案件数量的两倍。

In their memo, prosecutors described in detail how Spitze targeted a 12-year-old girl from an unidentified rural community.

检方在备忘录中详细描述了斯皮策如何锁定一名来自某个偏远农村地区的12岁女孩。

After meeting her on a popular social media platform, he flattered her with attention and told her she was his girlfriend -- something he told many of his victims, according to prosecutors.

他在一个热门社交媒体平台上认识她之后,用关注和恭维哄她,说自己女朋友是她——据检方称,这套话他对许多受害者都说过。

He sent her sexually explicit videos and then convinced her to send him sexually explicit videos of herself then later threatened to throw a brick through her window if she didn't comply with his escalating demands, prosecutors said.

检方称,他先给她发色情视频,然后哄她给自己发色情视频,之后又威胁说,她不满足他不断升级的要求,就往她家窗户扔砖头。

↳ #4 No.1531146
Anonymous · 2026-08-20 12:42

On a video call, he demanded that the girl cut herself as deep as she could, threatening to leak compromising videos of her if she didn't comply, according to prosecutors, according to prosecutors. On another video call, he pressured her into killing a chicken, spelling his online moniker with its intestines, and videotaping it all for him, according to prosecutors. He then shared the video on his social media accounts, promoting it as "awesome," prosecutors said.

据检方描述,在一次视频通话中,他要求女孩尽可能深地割伤自己,威胁不从就泄露她的不雅视频。在另一次视频通话中,他逼她杀一只鸡,用鸡肠摆出他的网名,全程录像发给他。随后他把这段视频发到自己的社交媒体账号上,还宣传说“太棒了”。

Prosecutors described a young man seemingly devoid of remorse or compassion -- a sadist who didn't see his victims as human and who had become numb to the drug addiction, the loss, and the violent trauma he experienced himself in recent years.

检方描述了一个似乎毫无悔意、毫无同情心的年轻人——一个不把受害者当人看的施虐狂,对自己近几年的毒瘾、失去和暴力创伤都已经麻木。

In 2023, Spitze provoked his mother's boyfriend into shooting him inside their home, prosecutors said. The bullet struck Spitze's ear, and Spitze recorded the entire incident -- then when police then responded, his mother's boyfriend killed himself, according to prosecutors.

据检方称,2023年,斯皮策故意激怒母亲的男友,让对方在家朝他开枪。子弹击中斯皮策的耳朵,他录下了全过程——警察到场后,他母亲的男友自杀了。

Spitze then posted video of the incident on social media, "which subsequently went viral" and made him "infamous," prosecutors recounted.

斯皮策随后把这段视频发到社交媒体上,据检方转述,视频“随后疯传”,让他“声名狼藉”。

Several months later, in February 2024, while Spitze and his mother were living in a hotel, he found his mother unconscious in her own blood, according to prosecutors. Instead of calling 911, he "made two graphic videos of the scene ... and shared them to social media," prosecutors said.

几个月后的2024年2月,斯皮策和母亲住在一家旅馆时,他发现母亲倒在血泊中不省人事。据检方称,他没有打911,而是“录了两段现场惨状视频……发到了社交媒体上”。

The FBI arrested Spitze days later.

几天后FBI逮捕了斯皮策。

Within months, while in jail, Spitze asked his father for help communicating with at least one of his victims, according to prosecutors. Spitze's father then contacted one victim and told her to delete any evidence that could harm Spitze's case, prosecutors said. Spitze's father was arrested himself and later pleaded guilty to one count of tampering with a victim. He was sentenced to nearly six years in prison.

据检方称,几个月后,还在狱中的斯皮策请求父亲帮忙与至少一名受害者联络。斯皮策的父亲随后联系了其中一名受害者,让她删除一切可能损害斯皮策案的证据。他本人随后被捕,并对一项妨害受害者罪名认罪,被判近六年监禁。

↳ #5 No.1531147
Anonymous · 2026-08-20 12:43

In late 2024, Spitze pleaded guilty to several charges related to child pornography and animal cruelty, and had been awaiting sentencing since then.

2024年底,斯皮策对数项涉及儿童色情和虐待动物的指控认罪,此后一直在等待量刑。

Prosecutors said 77 years in prison is "the only appropriate sentence" for Spitze, especially because "[764] members and their copycats need to see severe sentencing being ordered on their predecessors, with the knowledge that they will receive the same."

检方表示,对斯皮策来说77年监禁是“唯一合适的刑罚”,尤其是因为“[764的]成员和效仿者必须看到对他们的‘前辈’判处重刑,并知道等待自己的将是同样的下场”。

Related

In recent years, the FBI and Justice Department have charged dozens of people for alleged crimes tied to 764 or similar networks.

近年来,FBI和司法部已起诉了数十名被控涉及764或类似网络犯罪的人。

764 was launched in 2021 by a 15-year-old in Texas, Bradley Cadenhead, who named it after the first three digits of his ZIP code. Since then, 764 has spread around the world, growing into more of an ideology than a singular group, experts say. Other groups, inspired by 764, have formed with different names but nearly identical tactics and goals, according to authorities.

764由得克萨斯州一名15岁的少年布拉德利·卡登海德(Bradley Cadenhead)于2021年创立,名字取自他家邮编的前三位。专家称,此后764扩散至全球,与其说是一个单一组织,不如说发展成了一种意识形态。据有关部门介绍,受764启发的其他团体以不同名字成立,但手法和目标几乎一模一样。

↳ #6 No.1531148
Anonymous · 2026-08-20 13:07

>>1531143

Inb4 nobody says "esl shill" because he's in jail

先替你们占了楼:没人再喊“ESL狗托”了,因为他人已经在监狱里了。

↳ #7 No.1531152
Anonymous · 2026-08-20 13:49

acne balding

满脸痘,还秃头。

↳ #8 No.1531155
Anonymous · 2026-08-20 14:16

How the fuck are these teens so "vulnerable"? Like when I was a teenager on the internet people said shitty things to me every now and then, but I would never be so stupid to kill myself, harm myself, or send nudes to people on the internet. Do they not teach kids not to trust strangers on the internet anymore?

这些青少年到底怎么就这么“脆弱”?我当年上网的时候也时不时有人对我喷脏话,但我可从来没蠢到自杀、自残,或者给网上的人发裸照。现在都不教孩子别信网上陌生人了吗?

↳ #9 No.1531157
Anonymous · 2026-08-20 14:24

>>1531143

>Most prolific' member of online extremist network 764 sentenced to 77 years in prison

>网络极端组织764“最高产”成员被判77年监禁

>groom and push vulnerable teens

>诱骗并推动脆弱的青少年

>Spitze targeted a 12-year-old girl from an unidentified rural community

>斯皮策锁定了一名来自某个不明农村社区的12岁女孩

>He sent her sexually explicit videos and then convinced her to send him sexually explicit videos of herself

>他先给她发色情视频,然后哄她给自己发色情视频

>12-year-old girl

>12岁女孩

Enjoy dying alone in PC when those in Gen Pop throw you a welcoming party, which could consist of either concealed sharp instruments, that known as 'Prison Napalm' or both. Or just savage beatings: the price for so much as thinking of having wrong opinions, or even allowing wrong thoughts to exist in your brain cell, subhuman Spitze.

你就等着在普通牢区里孤零零地等死吧,里面的人会给你办欢迎会,节目单上可能有藏起来的利器,也有可能是有名的“监狱凝固汽油”(Prison Napalm),或者两样一起来。再不就是往死里打你:谁让你光是有错误的想法、甚至脑子里存在错误念头都不行。下等动物斯皮策。

May there be more arrests of similar subhumans. May you live in interesting times, those who will follow Spitze now in his own Room 101 for thoughtcrime.

愿更多这类下等动物被抓。愿你也活在“有趣的时代”,那些即将追随斯皮策进入他专属的“101号房间”因思想罪服刑的人。

↳ #10 No.1531159
Anonymous · 2026-08-20 14:44

>>1531157

Kinda weird that murders think they're better than pedophiles. Honestly both should be buried alive.

有点怪,杀人犯居然觉得自己比恋童癖高尚。说实话,两种人都该活埋。

↳ #11 No.1531160
Anonymous · 2026-08-20 14:46

>>1531157

Radical right wing: diddle

极右翼:猥亵儿童。

It's a fact.

这是事实。

↳ #12 No.1531161
Anonymous · 2026-08-20 15:10

Why would some teen girl listen to this ugly weird motherfucker? Are kids these days so desperate for online acceptance? Thought they could read.

这种丑陋的怪胎凭什么能让青少年女孩听他的?现在的孩子就这么渴望网上被认可吗?我还以为她们识字呢。

↳ #13 No.1531162
Anonymous · 2026-08-20 15:37

>>1531155

>>1531161

>Survivorship bias at work

>幸存者偏差在起作用

↳ #14 No.1531163
Anonymous · 2026-08-20 15:57

Ron Artested?

是罗恩·阿泰斯特(Ron Artest)干的?

↳ #15 No.1531177
Anonymous · 2026-08-20 16:59

>>1531163

Yes it's him. He's white now.

对,就是他。他现在变白了。

↳ #16 No.1531187
Anonymous · 2026-08-20 17:35

Grooming children? Definitely a liggeral. Joe Briben rapes kids.

诱骗儿童?铁定是自由派。乔·贿登(Joe Briben)强奸小孩。

↳ #17 No.1531196
Anonymous · 2026-08-20 18:03

>>1531148

The projecting esl shill's here now, trying too hard.

满嘴投射的ESL狗托来了,用力过猛。

The liggy miggy piggy with Biden Derangement Syndrome can't miss out on being humiliated yet again, that's why it appears in /news/.

那只患拜登失心疯的自由猪可不能错过再次被羞辱的机会,所以它才出现在/news/里。

↳ #18 No.1531271
Anonymous · 2026-08-20 23:20

>>1531155

>smoothbrain thinks getting called a retard on CS is equivalent to someone befriending a child, earning their trust and taking advantage of that trust to make them perform disgusting acts

>平滑脑认为在CS里被人骂智障,跟一个人跟小孩交朋友、骗取信任再利用这份信任让小孩做恶心的事,是一回事

I know you get asked this a lot but why are you such a dumb faggot?

我知道很多人问过你了,但你为什么是个这么蠢的基佬?

↳ #19 No.1531345
Anonymous · 2026-08-21 07:07

>>1531155

>but I would never be so stupid to kill myself, harm myself, or send nudes to people on the internet

>但我可从来没蠢到自杀、自残,或者给网上的人发裸照

Guess give birth to this dumb faggot

看来是该生出你这个蠢基佬。

↳ #20 No.1531347
Anonymous · 2026-08-21 07:21

>>1531155

They target mentally ill teens.

他们专挑有精神疾病的青少年下手。

↳ #21 No.1531378
Anonymous · 2026-08-21 15:30

>>1531143

watch him turn out to be a bluesky and rddt user, he looks the type definitely a male feminist sort

看着吧,他最后八成是个Bluesky和reddit用户,看长相就像,绝对是男权女(male feminist)那款。

↳ #22 No.1531379
Anonymous · 2026-08-21 15:31

>>1531155

times a changing and people online nowadays literally are only online and never meet up in person. Mental health is also a failing thing back when i was young the most people did was add people on facebook and organize meet ups.

时代变了,现在的人纯粹只活在网上,从来不见面。心理健康也每况愈下,我小时候大家顶多在Facebook上加个好友、组织线下聚会而已。

↳ #23 No.1531381
Anonymous · 2026-08-21 15:55

>>1531271

Yeah you were. Everyone who sees other people get conned thinks 'that could never happen to me.' You're also a piece of shit for blaming this fucking twelve year old girl who just wanted to believe someone would be nice to her. What a fucking idiot, monsters like you exist.

对,你当年也是。每个看到别人被骗的人都觉得“这绝不可能发生在我身上”。你他妈居然去怪罪这个12岁的小女孩——她只是想相信有人会对她好——你真是个十足的人渣。真是个蠢货,你这种怪物居然真实存在。

>>1531378

He' a bug-eyed white psychopath who exploits children, surprised you're not out here trying to get votes for him you fucking retarded faggot.

他就是个眼球突出的白人变态,专门祸害儿童,你他妈智障基佬居然没跑出去给他拉票,真是意外。

>>1531379

No, when you were young they were also torturing and raping kids here and there, they had to send Chris Hansen out to start catching them, you just have survivorship bias.

不对,你小时候到处也都有人在折磨和强奸儿童,还专门得派克里斯·汉森(Chris Hansen)出去抓他们,你只是有幸存者偏差罢了。

↳ #24 No.1531385
Anonymous · 2026-08-21 16:29

>>1531381

>Yeah you were. Everyone who sees other people get conned thinks 'that could never happen to me.' You're also a piece of shit for blaming this fucking twelve year old girl who just wanted to believe someone would be nice to her. What a fucking idiot, monsters like you exist.

>对,你当年也是。每个看到别人被骗的人都觉得“这绝不可能发生在我身上”。你他妈居然去怪罪这个12岁的小女孩——她只是想相信有人会对她好——你真是个十足的人渣。真是个蠢货,你这种怪物居然真实存在。

was directed at >>1531155

是回给>>1531155的。

Fucking dyslexia.

他妈的阅读障碍。

↳ #25 No.1531387
Anonymous · 2026-08-21 16:47

>>1531381

chris hansen's catches was the exception dipshit, you're literally talking about survivorship bias saying that because chris hansen captured a few people everyone was like that.

克里斯·汉森抓的那几个只是例外,蠢货,你说的就是幸存者偏差:因为汉森抓了几个,你就觉得人人都那样。

also yup definitely a democrat like you, kys

对对对,肯定跟你一样是民主党人,去死吧。

↳ #26 No.1531390
Anonymous · 2026-08-21 17:27

The Republican pedo defenders show their subhuman selves in this thread. And of course, reduced to projection.

共和党恋童癖辩护者在这楼里露出了他们下等动物的真面目。而且不出所料,只剩投射攻击了。

A reminder: the Republican party refuse to make child marriages illegal in certain states, thus the GOP: Gang Of Pedophiles. They are the actual domestic terrorists. No, rightists of /news/, you are the rape gangs.

提醒一句:共和党在某些州拒绝把童婚定为非法,所以GOP=恋童癖帮(Gang Of Pedophiles)。他们才是真正的国内恐怖分子。不,/news/的右翼们,你们才是强奸团伙。

And then the likes of 1531378 were hypocritical zombies.

然后1531378之流就是虚伪的行尸走肉。

>rddit

Watch him turn out to be a Xitter user and refugee from Reddit's r/The_Donald & r/Incels. He sounds the type to be a reject from /r9k/, a manosphere sort.

看着吧,他最后八成是个Xitter(推特)用户,是从Reddit的r/The_Donald和r/Incels逃难来的。听这口气就是被/r9k/踢出来的货,男人圈(manosphere)那一挂的。

Those who tracked down Spitze are no exception when it comes to justice being seen to be done. Spitze proves that all those who refuse to condemn that thing (don't forget: the Gang Of Pedophiles) are inferior subhuman pedos. No Exceptions.

把斯皮策揪出来的人在“正义得到伸张”这件事上也不例外。斯皮策证明了所有拒绝谴责那东西的人(别忘了:恋童癖帮)都是劣等的恋童下等动物。无一例外。

↳ #27 No.1531398
Anonymous · 2026-08-21 17:53

>>1531390

Why didn't Joe Biden expose the gang of pedophiles and release the Epstein files as president?

那拜登当总统的时候为什么不揭发恋童癖帮、公布爱泼斯坦文件?

↳ #28 No.1531399
Anonymous · 2026-08-21 17:54

>>1531398

why don't you get new shill talking points

你就不能换套新的狗托话术吗?

↳ #29 No.1531400
Anonymous · 2026-08-21 18:03

>>1531399

You have a wall of text about Republican Pedo defenders and the Gang of Pedophiles GoP. Why didn't Democrats expose this group?

你有一大篇关于共和党恋童癖辩护者和恋童癖帮GoP的长篇大论。那民主党为什么不揭发这个团体?

↳ #30 No.1531401
Anonymous · 2026-08-21 18:05

>>1531400

do you really have a crippling humiliation fetish

你是不是真有严重的受辱癖?

↳ #31 No.1531402
Anonymous · 2026-08-21 18:09

>>1531390

>The Republican pedo defenders show their subhuman selves in this thread. And of course, reduced to projection.

>共和党恋童癖辩护者在这楼里露出了他们下等动物的真面目。而且不出所料,只剩投射攻击了。

>A reminder: the Republican party refuse to make child marriages illegal in certain states, thus the GOP: Gang Of Pedophiles. They are the actual domestic terrorists. No, rightists of /news/, you are the rape gangs.

>提醒一句:共和党在某些州拒绝把童婚定为非法,所以GOP=恋童癖帮(Gang Of Pedophiles)。他们才是真正的国内恐怖分子。不,/news/的右翼们,你们才是强奸团伙。

>And then the likes of 1531378 were hypocritical zombies.

>然后1531378之流就是虚伪的行尸走肉。

>>rddit

>Watch him turn out to be a Xitter user and refugee from Reddit's r/The_Donald & r/Incels. He sounds the type to be a reject from /r9k/, a manosphere sort.

>看着吧,他最后八成是个Xitter用户,是从Reddit的r/The_Donald和r/Incels逃难来的。听这口气就是被/r9k/踢出来的货,男人圈那一挂的。

>Those who tracked down Spitze are no exception when it comes to justice being seen to be done. Spitze proves that all those who refuse to condemn that thing (don't forget: the Gang Of Pedophiles) are inferior subhuman pedos. No Exceptions.

>把斯皮策揪出来的人在“正义得到伸张”这件事上也不例外。斯皮策证明了所有拒绝谴责那东西的人(别忘了:恋童癖帮)都是劣等的恋童下等动物。无一例外。

If all this is true why didn't Democrats release the Epstein files and expose the gang of Pedophiles?

如果这些都是真的,那民主党为什么不公布爱泼斯坦文件、揭发恋童癖帮?

↳ #32 No.1531403
Anonymous · 2026-08-21 18:10

>>1531402

why don't you get a real job

你怎么不去找份正经工作?

↳ #33 No.1531404
Anonymous · 2026-08-21 18:10

>>1531403

I post on my phone from my job. How about you?

我上班用手机发帖。你呢?

↳ #34 No.1531405
Anonymous · 2026-08-21 18:18

esl shill loves larping as a productive member of society

ESL狗托最喜欢装成社会有用成员了。

↳ #35 No.1531408
Anonymous · 2026-08-21 18:47

>>1531404

i'm a crippled homosexual dyke from canada.I don't work quite literally

我是个加拿大来的残废同性恋拉拉。我字面意义上不工作。

↳ #36 No.1531411
Anonymous · 2026-08-21 19:21

>>1531155

>Do they not teach kids not to trust strangers on the internet anymore?

>现在都不教孩子别信网上陌生人了吗?

Most parents use the internet as a babysitting device.

大多数家长把网络当保姆用。

I'm never letting my kids have a phone or access to the internet so long as they live in my house.

只要我的孩子还住在我家,我就绝不让他们有手机、绝不让他们碰网络。

↳ #37 No.1531431
Anonymous · 2026-08-21 21:14

>>1531398

https://www.newsnationnow.com/politics/why-were-epstein-files-not-released-biden/

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/8/6/fact-check-did-democrats-take-action-over-epstein-case-transparency

↳ #38 No.1531432
Anonymous · 2026-08-21 21:21

>>1531431

>The Epstein case was an open criminal investigation during the Biden administration,

>拜登政府期间,爱泼斯坦案一直是一项公开的刑事调查,

>“They had an open grand jury. … And even after Maxwell’s conviction, the case was on appeal — anyone in law enforcement knows you don’t open your case file when it’s still under appeal,” Brown added

>“当时有大陪审团在运作。……甚至在麦克斯韦尔(Maxwell)定罪之后,案件还在上诉中——干执法的都懂,案子还在上诉时你不会公开案卷,”布朗(Brown)补充道

>Victims were still going to the FBI with information during Biden’s term, but that changed when President Donald Trump’s Department of Justice reviewed the files and closed the case in July, Brown said.

>布朗说,拜登任内受害者还在向FBI提供信息,但到了特朗普总统的司法部审查案卷并于7月结案之后,情况就变了。

That doesn't line up with prior cases

这跟以往的案例对不上。

>No, there is no strong historical precedent for keeping high-profile criminal investigation files entirely sealed for years solely because of prosecutions against associates, in the way sometimes claimed for the Epstein files.

>并不存在像人们为爱泼斯坦文件所声称的那种强有力的历史先例——仅仅因为对关联人员的追诉,就把高知名度的刑事调查案卷完全封存多年。

>Al Capone (tax evasion conviction 1931):

>阿尔·卡彭(Al Capone)(1931年因逃税定罪):

>His prosecution focused on taxes, not the full organized crime network. Extensive records (raids, ledgers, witness statements) were used at trial and became public. No multi-year blanket seal on "Capone files" while chasing associates.

>对他的起诉只针对税收,而不是整个有组织犯罪网络。大量记录(突袭、账本、证人证词)在庭审中使用并公开了。在追查其党羽期间,并没有对“卡彭档案”进行多年全面封存。

>Grand jury testimony and some evidence had standard protections, but core trial documents and IRS/FBI materials were accessible post-trial. Capone's downfall generated massive public records without long-term sealing tied to co-conspirators.

>大陪审团证词和部分证据有标准保护,但核心庭审文件和IRS/FBI材料在庭审后可以查阅。卡彭的倒台留下了大量公开记录,没有因同谋者而长期封存。

>John Gotti (convicted 1992):

>约翰·戈蒂(John Gotti)(1992年定罪):

>Racketeering/murder case relied heavily on Sammy Gravano's testimony. Trial evidence (tapes, surveillance) entered the public record.

>诈骗/谋杀案主要依赖萨米·格拉瓦诺(Sammy Gravano)的证词。庭审证据(录音带、监控)进入了公共记录。

>No evidence of entire investigative files sealed for years due to other Gambino prosecutions. High-profile organized crime cases often see significant public exposure at trial.

>没有任何证据表明因甘比诺家族的其他起诉而将全部调查档案封存多年。高知名度的有组织犯罪案件往往在庭审中有大量公开曝光。

>In both cases, selective sealing (e.g., protecting cooperators, grand jury info, or fugitives) was common, but not a years-long embargo on core files. High-profile prosecutions typically generate public trials and records to demonstrate justice

>在两案中,选择性封存(比如保护污点证人、大陪审团信息或逃犯)很常见,但并没有对核心档案长达数年的禁令。高知名度起诉通常会有公开审判和公开记录,以彰显正义

↳ #39 No.1531433
Anonymous · 2026-08-21 21:25

>>1531432

>That doesn't line up with prior cases

>这跟以往的案例对不上

were those cases under active appeal?

那些案子当时在上诉中吗?

↳ #40 No.1531434
Anonymous · 2026-08-21 21:30

>>1531432

Did you just ask AI, or do you have an actual source?

你刚才是问AI问出来的,还是有真实信源?

↳ #41 No.1531436
Anonymous · 2026-08-21 21:34

>>1531432

it seems lot of gotti's investigation related files from the FBI was released a few years after he died, and 10 years after he was convicted:

看起来戈蒂的不少FBI调查相关档案是在他死后几年、也就是定罪十年之后才公开的:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/john-gotti-and-the-draft/

thats different from a situation where there's an ongoing criminal investigation.

那跟正在进行的刑事调查是两码事。

↳ #42 No.1531437
Anonymous · 2026-08-21 21:39

>>1531433

Yes. John Gotti and Al Capone had large legal teams paid for with Mob money and took advantage of every appeal opportunity while they were alive. Jeffrey Epstein was not appealing his case between January 20th 2021-2025 while Joe Biden was President because Jeffrey Epstein died on August 10, 2019.

对。约翰·戈蒂和阿尔·卡彭都有黑帮出钱供养的庞大律师团队,活着的时候用尽了每一次上诉机会。而杰弗里·爱泼斯坦(Jeffrey Epstein)在2021年1月20日到2025年乔·拜登当总统期间没有在上诉什么案子,因为杰弗里·爱泼斯坦早在2019年8月10日就死了。

↳ #43 No.1531441
Anonymous · 2026-08-21 22:24

>>1531437

As was already posted, the case was being appealed by Maxwell. Who was probably epstein's closest collaborator.

正如前面已经有人贴的,上诉的是麦克斯韦尔。她大概是爱泼斯坦最亲密的合作者。

↳ #44 No.1531442
Anonymous · 2026-08-21 22:29

>>1531441

There were appeals by John Gotti and Al Capone associates, these did not result in the "Gotti files" or "Capone files" being sealed while their associates faced charges

戈蒂和卡彭的党羽也上诉过,但这些上诉并没有导致“戈蒂档案”或“卡彭档案”在他们党羽被起诉期间被封存。

↳ #45 No.1531443
Anonymous · 2026-08-21 22:32

>>1531442

source?

↳ #46 No.1531448
Anonymous · 2026-08-21 22:50

>>1531443

do you accept drug induced hallucinations or outright lies?

你是信药物致幻,还是信彻头彻尾的谎言?

↳ #47 No.1531463
Anonymous · 2026-08-22 01:38

>>1531411

>im just going to take the easy way out and ban the internet altogether because if theres one thing kids don’t excel at, its hiding things from their parents

>“我就图省事直接全面禁网得了,因为要说小孩有什么不擅长的,那就是向父母藏东西”

Were you raised in a cage?

你是在笼子里长大的吗?

↳ #48 No.1531515
Anonymous · 2026-08-22 12:38

>>1531463

No they're just stupid and reactionary, and would rather infantalize their children and rob them of the tools they need for success than actually sit down and fucking parent them to prepare them to be a functioning person.

不,他们就是蠢、反动,宁愿把自家孩子当婴儿养、剥夺他们成功所需的工具,也不愿意坐下来好好当爹妈,把孩子培养成能正常生活的人。

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