U.S. economy lost 23,000 jobs in July

The U.S. economy saw an unexpected declined in jobs during July while the unemployment rate edged lower, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reported Friday in a snapshot that showed a slowing employment picture.

美国劳工统计局周五在一份快照中报告称，美国经济七月份就业意外下降，而失业率小幅下降，显示就业情况放缓。

Nonfarm payrolls fell by a seasonally adjusted 23,000 for the month, compared with a downwardly revised 20,000 for June. The Dow Jones consensus forecast had been looking for a gain of 83,000.

经季节调整后，本月非农就业人数减少 23,000 人，而 6 月份则向下修正为 20,000 人。道琼斯一致预测上涨 83,000 点。

At the same time, the unemployment slipped to 4.1% as the labor force participation rate fell further to 61.4%, its lowest in more than five years, another indication that fewer Americans were working or looking for jobs.

与此同时，失业率下滑至4.1%，劳动力参与率进一步降至61.4%，为五年多来的最低水平，这再次表明正在工作或寻找工作的美国人减少。

In addition to the weak numbers for June and July, the final count for May was revised down to 63,000, or 66,000 lower than the prior estimate. The revised numbers brought the 12-month average down to just 34,000.

除了 6 月和 7 月的疲弱数字外，5 月的最终人数也下调至 63,000 人，比之前的估计少 66,000 人。修订后的数字使 12 个月的平均人数降至 34,000 人。

“The July employment report solidified that the labor market is not out of the woods quite yet,” said Nicole Bachaud, a labor economist at ZipRecruiter.

ZipRecruiter 的劳工经济学家 Nicole Bachaud 表示：“7 月份的就业报告证实，劳动力市场尚未走出困境。”

While jobs held flat, worker pay also saw virtually no gain during the month. Average hourly earnings increased by just 2 cents, bringing the 12-month average down to 3.2%, below the forecast increase of 3.5% and the lowest since May 2021.

尽管就业岗位持平，但本月工人工资几乎没有增长。平均每小时收入仅增长 2 美分，使 12 个月平均收入下降至 3.2%，低于 3.5% 的预测增幅，为 2021 年 5 月以来的最低水平。

Household employment, which measures the total of people reporting that they are working and is used to calculate the unemployment rate, fell by 87,000. However, the unemployment rate declined because of a decrease of 264,000 in the labor force. Outside of the Covid era, the participation rate is at its lowest since the middle part of 1976.

家庭就业人数下降了 87,000 人，该数据衡量了正在工作的总人数，并用于计算失业率。然而，由于劳动力减少了264,000人，失业率有所下降。在新冠疫情时代之外，参与率处于 1976 年中期以来的最低水平。

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/08/07/jobs-report-july-2026.html

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/news/1786114815990776.jpg

>>1528024

me on the left

我左边那个

>>1528039

Republicans have been joocing the numbers.

共和党人一直在玩弄这些数字。

where is the "cat in every pot" that was promised my people when they emigrated to the promised land?

当我的人民移居到应许之地时，他们所许诺的“每个罐子里的猫”在哪里？

>>1528067

Yeah and every month they are revised lower.

是的，每个月它们都会被修改得更低。

>>1528024

Obama did this

奥巴马这样做了

>>1528133

Clinton, actually.

事实上，克林顿。

>>1528024

>another indication that fewer Americans were working or looking for jobs.

>另一个迹象表明，正在工作或寻找工作的美国人越来越少。

Isn't this a good thing?

这不是一件好事吗？

>>1528144

No because the employment numbers didn't go up either, meaning they're just adrift.

不，因为就业人数也没有增加，这意味着他们只是漂泊不定。

>>1528144

No. A bug chunk are people retiring and it looks like instead of hiring younger replacements, the smart thing to do, employers are not replacing these jobs or are out-sourcing to India.

不。一个问题是人们退休了，看起来雇主不会取代这些工作或外包给印度，而是明智的做法，而不是雇用更年轻的替代者。

The other big chunk of these people are discouraged workers who have given up trying to find work. This is also not a good thing for your economy since these people are of working age and could be generating income and tax revenue for their communities.

这些人中的另一大部分是灰心丧气的工人，他们放弃了寻找工作的努力。这对您的经济来说也不是一件好事，因为这些人处于工作年龄，可以为他们的社区创造收入和税收。

Shit is cooked. Badly. Panic.

屎都煮熟了糟糕的是。恐慌。

>>1528144

It’s a good thing if you want to see America decline, yes

如果你想看到美国衰落，这是一件好事，是的

>>1528147

...OK, but less people looking for jobs means prosperity, retirement or welfare. Since the US no longer has welfare and I don't believe retired individuals are counted, it must mean prosperity.

...好吧，但是更少的人找工作意味着繁荣、退休或福利。既然美国不再有福利了，而且我不相信退休人员也被计算在内，那么这一定意味着繁荣。

And unemployment is at 4.1% called a "slip" in the article, but it's down from 4.3% which makes it pretty much flat over the past 3 years.

失业率为 4.1%，文章中称之为“下滑”，但它低于 4.3%，这使得失业率在过去 3 年中几乎持平。

Keep in mind, labor force participation measures nothing really, whereas unemployment measures people seeking work who aren't currently employed.

请记住，劳动力参与率实际上并不能衡量什么，而失业率衡量的是目前没有工作的正在寻找工作的人。

>>1528253

Well, maybe if we had jobs worth working and workplaces not filled with karens and faggots people would work.

好吧，也许如果我们有值得工作的工作，并且工作场所没有充满克伦人和基佬的人，人们就会工作。

Right now, what's the point in making this shithole succeed when everyone else is simply interested in extracting value from workers?

现在，当其他人都只是对从工人身上榨取价值感兴趣时，让这个混蛋成功还有什么意义呢？

>>1528319

>...OK, but less people looking for jobs means prosperity, retirement or welfare.

>...好吧，但是更少的人找工作意味着繁荣、退休或福利。

Or, hear me out, people literally cannot find jobs and are giving up, living with their parents and coasting off their savings because they literally cannot find anywhere to work.

或者，听我说，人们实际上找不到工作，正在放弃，与父母住在一起，并花光积蓄，因为他们实际上找不到工作的地方。

If what you said is true the employment numbers would be up. They aren't.

如果你说的是真的，就业人数就会上升。他们不是。

>>1528134

Sorry it was actually Hunter Biden's penis acting on its own.

抱歉，这实际上是亨特·拜登的阴茎自行活动的。

Meanwhile in a non far right fascist country.

与此同时，在一个非极右法西斯国家。

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/canada-posts-monster-jobs-gain-july-unemployment-rate-hits-two-year-low-2026-08-07/

>>1528321

Where do I begin with this 40 IQ post? You know what? I don't even care.

我从哪里开始这篇 40 IQ 的文章呢？你知道吗？我什至不在乎。

>>1528361

The odd part here is that OP and (You) think these numbers are terrible for Trump.

这里奇怪的是，OP 和（你）认为这些数字对特朗普来说很糟糕。

Here's Reuters celebrating this massive win!!!

路透社庆祝这一巨大胜利！

>Average hourly wages of permanent employees grow 3.0% in July,

>7月份正式员工平均时薪增长3.0%，

>The jobless rate fell for the third consecutive month, dipping from 6.5% to 6.4%, a level last seen in July 2024.

>失业率连续第三个月下降，从 6.5% 降至 6.4%，上次达到 2024 年 7 月的水平。

6.4%? Excellent...

6.4%？出色的...

>>1528321

its the deportations you retard

这是你推迟的驱逐出境

>>1528370

>>Average hourly wages of permanent employees grow 3.0% in July,

>>7月份正式员工平均时薪增长3.0%

Bring that back retard. Say the rest of the sentence with me now

把那个延迟带回来。现在跟我一起说剩下的句子

>While jobs held flat, worker pay also saw virtually no gain during the month. Average hourly earnings increased by just 2 cents, bringing the 12-month average down to 3.2%, below the forecast increase of 3.5% and the lowest since May 2021.

>虽然就业岗位持平，但本月工人工资几乎没有增长。平均每小时收入仅增长 2 美分，使 12 个月平均收入下降至 3.2%，低于 3.5% 的预测增幅，为 2021 年 5 月以来的最低水平。

>6.4%? Excellent...

>6.4%？出色的...

I'm genuinely unsure where you're getting this number from.

我真的不确定你从哪里得到这个号码。

>>1528024

Why are the jews so happy in the op photo? Why does Stephen Miller have a hunch back?

为什么照片中的犹太人如此高兴？斯蒂芬·米勒为什么驼背？

>>1528372

Let's assume this is true; you recognize this is a bad thing, right? Like this is historically a bad thing; immigrants usually fill jobs the native population doesn't have much interest in, at least in current times. They help to stem the flow of aging out workers in those positions (who themselves tend to consist of older immigrants) to keep those industries with an actual workforce. Without them, you wind up in a Japan situation where the older generation ages out and retires, but there's not enough people from the newer ones experienced enough to replace the old, leading to even worse economical issues.

让我们假设这是真的；你知道这是一件坏事，对吧？从历史上看，这是一件坏事；移民通常会填补当地人不太感兴趣的工作，至少在当前是这样。它们有助于阻止这些职位上的老龄工人（他们本身往往由老年移民组成）的流动，以保持这些行业拥有实际的劳动力。如果没有他们，你最终会陷入日本的情况：老一代人老龄化并退休，但没有足够的经验丰富的新人来取代老一代人，从而导致更严重的经济问题。

>>1528394

He is also a jew. Look up the videos of him in high school giving speeches about how he should be allowed to litter since the school has janitors they pay to clean up after them. Very entitled with a touch of psychotic.

他也是犹太人。观看他在高中时发表演讲的视频，内容是关于如何允许他乱扔垃圾，因为学校有付费清洁工来清理垃圾。非常有权，带有一丝精神病。

The more I learn about Miller the clearer it becomes that he is calling the shots right now and is responsible for much of the nonsense we're currently experiencing.

我对米勒了解得越多，就越清楚，他现在正在发号施令，并且对我们目前所经历的大部分胡言乱语负有责任。

>>1528395

I thought that the native population doesn't want to do those jobs at those wages. Id pick fruit. But not for national minimum wage it would be $15-20 an hour

我认为当地人不想以这些工资做这些工作。我去摘水果。但国家最低工资不是每小时 15-20 美元

I think good roofers should be paid $100 an hour but instead that have to deal with competition standing outside home depot working for cash and they only get $25 an hour. Historically immigrants drag down low skill wages, and stemming the flow of migrants labor causes wages to rise

我认为优秀的屋顶工应该每小时支付 100 美元，但他们必须面对站在 Home Depot 外面赚钱的竞争，而他们每小时只能拿到 25 美元。从历史上看，移民拖累了低技能工资，而阻止移民劳动力流动则导致工资上涨

>>1528405

>Historically immigrants drag down low skill wages, and stemming the flow of migrants labor causes wages to rise

>从历史上看，移民拖累了低技能工资，阻止移民劳动力流动导致工资上涨

Not really. California in the 19th century banned chinese immigrants because they felt like they were taking too many jobs for too cheap. They thought it would result in whites filling the places and overall wage growth.

并不真地。 19世纪的加州禁止中国移民，因为他们觉得自己以太便宜的价格抢走了太多的工作。他们认为这将导致白人填补这些职位并导致整体工资增长。

It didn't. That shit literally kneecapped economic growth on the west coast for almost a century. They only started growing to get where they are today when the law got appealed. Surprisingly, it turns out that getting rid of immigrants doesn't result in natives filling the same jobs and wages going up; it results in businesses closing down because no one wants to work those jobs and they can't pay anyone more.

事实并非如此。这种狗屎实际上在近一个世纪的时间里阻碍了西海岸的经济增长。当法律受到上诉时，他们才开始发展到今天的水平。令人惊讶的是，事实证明，消除移民并不会导致当地人从事同样的工作，工资也会上涨。这会导致企业倒闭，因为没有人愿意做这些工作，而且他们也无法向任何人支付更多工资。

>>1528397

Is that a formal debate video? If so it's normal practice to take positions you don't support in debates. But overall, you're right, he's a jew. Jews being members of the most evil cult ever created.

这是正式的辩论视频吗？如果是这样，在辩论中采取你不支持的立场是正常的做法。但总的来说，你是对的，他是犹太人。犹太人是有史以来最邪恶的邪教的成员。

>>1528405

Most H1B jobs pay well but CEO's want to pay slavery wages so they hire people from India.

大多数 H1B 工作薪水很高，但首席执行官想要支付奴隶制工资，因此他们雇用来自印度的人。

>>1528395

>doesn't have much interest in

>没有太大兴趣

Because they don't pay enough. Because illegal immigrants work for pennies.

因为他们付出的钱还不够。因为非法移民的工作只是为了赚小钱。

>>1528395

>leading to even worse economical issues.

>导致更严重的经济问题。

For who?

为了谁？

And the "do the jobs americans don't want" shit is tired asf.

“做美国人不想要的工作”这种狗屎已经很累了。

If no one wants those jobs, that forces people to begrudgingly do them for higher wages, if the jobs are essential.

如果没有人想要这些工作，那么如果这些工作是必要的，人们就会不情愿地为了更高的工资而从事这些工作。

And in modern times since at least 1988, we import h1-b visa workers to do the jobs Americans want to do, to keep wages down.

在现代，至少从 1988 年开始，我们进口 H1-B 签证工人来做美国人想做的工作，以压低工资。

While importing h2-bs to do the labor Americans don't want to do (seasonal farm labor).

而进口 h2-bs 来做美国人不想做的劳动力（季节性农场劳动力）。

Why is this basic shit so difficult for liggerals to understand?

为什么这些基本的东西对于 liggerals 来说如此难以理解？

>>1528436

So we can fix this by just requiring companies to document and report labor payments so we can track these things?

那么我们可以通过要求公司记录和报告人工付款来解决这个问题，以便我们可以跟踪这些事情吗？

ESL shill doesn't seem to understand that we're going to look at these problems with an eye to fix them, not as an excuse to enact whatever racist israeli psyop they've been contracted to shill

ESL 骗子似乎不明白，我们将用解决问题的眼光来看待这些问题，而不是作为实施他们与骗子签订的任何种族主义以色列心理行动的借口

>>1528437

>>1528436

>If no one wants those jobs, that forces people to begrudgingly do them for higher wages, if the jobs are essential.

如果没有人想要这些工作，那么如果这些工作是必要的，人们就会不情愿地为了更高的工资而从事这些工作。

Yeah this doesn't work. Again, we literally had a test run of this idea during the Chinese Exclusion Act. No matter how "essential" people thought the jobs were, people just didn't do them. The pay wasn't there (and before you say "well they'll just boost wages", the money to do that wasn't there either) and what people were willing to do them were nowhere near as skilled and efficient as their immigrant counterparts because they had no experience and the people who would've taught them were the immigrants who got kicked out.

是的，这行不通。我们再次在排华法案期间对这个想法进行了一次真正的测试。无论人们认为这些工作多么“重要”，人们就是不去做。工资不存在（在你说“好吧，他们只会提高工资”之前，做这件事的钱也不存在），人们愿意做的事情远不如他们的移民同行那么熟练和高效，因为他们没有经验，而本来会教他们的人是被赶出去的移民。

You can argue otherwise all you want, but we've got modern examples too; look at Japan, who combined a declining birthrate with hard anti-immigration and are currently facing a massive crisis where they have more demand for workers than they have workers.

你可以随心所欲地争论，但我们也有现代的例子；看看日本，它结合了出生率下降和严厉的反移民政策，目前正面临着一场巨大的危机，对工人的需求超过了他们拥有的工人。

>>1528438

>so we can track these things?

>所以我们可以追踪这些东西？

You're assuming that companies will bother to document illicit transactions.

您假设公司会费心记录非法交易。

Illegal immigration is downstream of demand for cheap labor. The only way to 'fix' that is to make the economy healthier.

非法移民是廉价劳动力需求的下游。 “解决”这一问题的唯一方法是让经济更加健康。

>racist israeli psyop

>以色列种族主义心理战

You're like the inverse of a MAGA supporter that accuse anybody who is unhappy with datacenters as being a troon.

你就像 MAGA 支持者的反面，指责任何对数据中心不满意的人都是骗子。

>>1528440

These are the same people who will also say that not all jobs deserve a living wage. They're not serious about what they say

这些人也会说并非所有工作都值得生活工资。他们并不认真对待自己所说的话

>>1528443

>You're assuming that companies will bother to document illicit transactions.

>您假设公司会费心记录非法交易。

So companies will do whatever they want, so we shouldn't bother policing them?

那么公司会为所欲为，所以我们不应该费心去监管他们吗？

You're still a shitty shill pretending that ICE actions are essential so you can avoid inconveniencing the people who actually hire immigrants

你仍然是个卑鄙的骗子，假装 ICE 的行动至关重要，这样你就可以避免给真正雇用移民的人带来不便

>>1528445

>So companies will do whatever they want, so we shouldn't bother policing them?

>所以公司会为所欲为，所以我们不应该费心去监管他们？

Corporations aren't wizards from the Harry Potter universe. They can't make illegal immigrants appear out of nowhere, they need to be in the US first. Remove the immigrants, remove the source of labor, price of labor goes up.

公司不是哈利波特宇宙中的巫师。他们不能让非法移民凭空出现，他们需要首先来到美国。去掉了移民，去掉了劳动力来源，劳动力价格就上涨了。

>avoid inconveniencing the people who actually hire immigrants

>避免给实际雇用移民的人带来不便

They're breaking the law already, retard. Making more laws isn't the solution.

他们已经违法了，弱智。制定更多法律并不是解决方案。

You're some sort of corporatist bootlicker. Trust the science, amirite fellow xisters?

你是某种社团主义的马屁精。相信科学吗，amirite同胞们？

1528446

>no, don't actually try to solve the problem

>不，实际上并不试图解决问题

>just do racist project 2025 stuff

>只做种族主义项目2025的事情

esl shill :(

ESL 托儿:(

>>1528395

I’m willing to suffer slightly worse economic outcomes if it means I don’t have to constantly look over my shoulder in case some ape tries to shank me or my kids over pocket change

如果这意味着我不必经常提心吊胆，以防某些猿类试图为了零钱而欺骗我或我的孩子，我愿意承受稍微糟糕的经济结果

esl shill, the immigrant who took your job wasn't a dei hire

ESL shill，抢走你工作的移民不是 dei 雇佣的

they were a better qualified person replacing you because you're shit

他们是一个更合格的人来取代你，因为你很糟糕

>illegals aren't the problem, business owners are the problem, that's why we need more laws

>非法移民不是问题，企业主才是问题，这就是为什么我们需要更多法律

>enforcing the laws that already exist is racist

>执行现有法律是种族主义行为

>>1528448

>slightly worse economic outcomes

>经济结果稍差

Oh buddy it's gonna be a lot more than just "slightly worse".

哦，伙计，这不仅仅是“稍微糟糕一点”。

>>1528451

but republicunts don't want to enforce laws punishing companies for hiring illegals

但共和党不想执行法律惩罚雇用非法人员的公司

they just want to deport illegals without finding out who was employing them

他们只是想驱逐非法移民而不查明谁雇用了他们

your solution always involves companies hiring illegals by design, because you're a shitty shill programmed to support the practice

你的解决方案总是涉及公司故意雇佣非法人员，因为你是一个被编程来支持这种做法的卑鄙骗子

>they just want to deport illegals without finding out who was employing them

>他们只是想驱逐非法移民而不查明谁雇用了他们

You realize these are two separate crimes right

你知道这是两种不同的犯罪行为，对吧

We can both deport the illegals and punish the employers breaking the law. But you're hyper-fixating on the employers and crying about racism.

我们既可以驱逐非法移民，也可以惩罚违法的雇主。但你过度关注雇主并为种族主义哭泣。

>>1528455

>crying about racism.

>为种族主义而哭泣。

They literally re-legalized racial profiling for ICE agents.

他们确实使 ICE 特工的种族定性重新合法化。

>>1528464

esl shill is the only one talking about racism

ESL shill 是唯一一个谈论种族主义的人

>>1528464

Racism is like being hungry.

种族主义就像饥饿一样。

You might not be hungry right now. But if a hamburger cuts you off in traffic you might have some opinions.

你现在可能不饿。但如果汉堡挡住了你的交通，你可能会有一些看法。

>>1528466

If a hamburger cuts you off in traffic you have a mental illness

如果一个汉堡挡住了你的交通，你就患有精神疾病

>>1528455

>punish the employers

>惩罚雇主

but you arent doing that though

但你并没有这样做

>>1528393

>I'm genuinely unsure where you're getting this number from.

>我真的不确定你从哪里得到这个号码。

I quoted it from the fucking article in the post I replied to, retard.

我在回复的帖子里引用了那篇他妈的文章，智障。

>>1528445

>These are the same people who will also say that not all jobs deserve a living wage. They're not serious about what they say

> 这些人也会说并非所有工作都值得生活工资。他们并不认真对待自己所说的话

Almost all jobs deserve a living wage. Forcing a minimum wage only causes inflation though.

几乎所有工作都值得生活工资。但强制实施最低工资只会导致通货膨胀。

So, are you confusing my disagreement with your, notably retarded, top down "solution" with a lack of advocacy for better pay?

那么，你是否把我对你的、明显迟钝的、自上而下的“解决方案”的不同意见与缺乏对提高工资的倡导混为一谈了？

Maybe this is why liggerals don't realize they're the bad guys?

也许这就是为什么liggerals没有意识到他们是坏人？

>>1528502

>Almost all jobs deserve a living wage. Forcing a minimum wage only causes inflation though.

>几乎所有工作都应该有生活工资。但强制实施最低工资只会导致通货膨胀。

Way to admit the living wage has outpaced minimum wage by miles while also admitting "not that we should do anything about that lol"

承认生活工资已经超过最低工资几英里，同时也承认“我们不应该对此采取任何措施，哈哈”

>>1528503

You won he fight for $15 not too long ago.

不久前他为 15 美元而战，你赢了。

How'd that work out, you good intentioned evil son of a bitch?

结果怎么样了，你这个好心坏狗娘养的？

>>1528508

Federal minimum wage is $7.25, so a standard democrat victory to you, esl shill

联邦最低工资是 7.25 美元，所以对你来说，这是标准的民主党胜利，esl shill

>>1528509

And how does that affect your state minimum wage?

这对您所在州的最低工资有何影响？

There are only a few states that sill use the fed min. In those states, everyone is housed and fed better than most blue states.

只有少数几个州仍在使用美联储最低利率。在这些州，每个人的住房和饮食都比大多数蓝色州更好。

So is the federal minimum wage a problem, or do you just like causing problems by being ignorant, idiotic and bitchy?

那么，联邦最低工资是一个问题，还是你只是喜欢通过无知、愚蠢和恶毒来制造问题？

>Everything's fine

>一切都很好

>Let's pour ideological shit on everything to make it better.

>让我们把意识形态的狗屎倒在一切事情上，让它变得更好。

Liggerals need education, and critical thinking skills. What will raising the federal minimum wage do? Cause inflation, as is evidenced by previous minimum wage increases.

Liggerals 需要教育和批判性思维技能。提高联邦最低工资会有什么作用？导致通货膨胀，之前的最低工资上涨就证明了这一点。

Liggerals think you can just force better wages. The money isn't there. Look at the P&Ls, retard.

自由主义者认为你可以强制提高工资。钱不在那里。看看损益表，延迟。

>>1528503

People deserve a life if they work hard

人只要努力工作就值得拥有美好的生活

>>1528514

then why are you still here

那你为什么还在这里

>>1528509

I too enjoy my $20 McNugget meal. Thanks, Dummycraps.

我也很喜欢 20 美元的麦乐鸡大餐。谢谢，笨蛋。

>>1528512

>incoherent esl shill noises

> 不连贯的 ESL 噪音

you're actively becoming dumber

你正在主动地变得更笨

i hope we're contributing to your ongoing degeneration

我希望我们能为你持续的堕落做出贡献

>>1528519

Thanks to Trumpflation, trickle down economics and the endless wars.

感谢特朗普通货膨胀，经济渗透和无休无止的战争。

>>1528502

As a job creator I should only pay what the market asks for. Biden’s economy has people willing to work for $5/hr but liggerals force me into a (fake) minimum wage so I have to raise prices if I want to keep flying first class

作为就业创造者，我应该只支付市场要求的费用。拜登的经济让人们愿意以每小时 5 美元的价格工作，但 liggerals 强迫我接受（虚假的）最低工资，所以如果我想继续乘坐头等舱，我就必须提高价格

>>1528512

>There are only a few states that sill use the fed min. In those states, everyone is housed and fed better than most blue states.

>只有少数几个州仍在使用美联储最低利率。在这些州，每个人的住房和饮食都比大多数蓝色州更好。

You sure about that?

你确定？

>>1528508

>How'd that work out, you good intentioned evil son of a bitch?

> 结果如何呢，你这个好心坏狗娘养的？

Much better than it did for the states that still use fucking $7 in this economy. You really wanna argue states like Alabama have a better quality of life than states like New Jersey or California?

比那些在这个经济中仍然使用该死的 7 美元的州的情况要好得多。你真的想争论像阿拉巴马州这样的州比新泽西州或加利福尼亚州这样的州有更好的生活质量吗？

Making $7.25 an hour literally puts you below the poverty line. You can't afford rent on that without having more than one job.

每小时赚 7.25 美元确实可以让你处于贫困线以下。如果你没有一份以上的工作，你就付不起房租。

>>1528455

Typically the guy with a construction company or a farm (the kind of jobs Mexicans do) are lifelong republicans despite hiring day laborers most of the time

通常，建筑公司或农场（墨西哥人做的那种工作）的人都是终身共和党人，尽管大多数时候都雇用临时工

>>1528640

>L-look over t-there

>L-看那儿

>S-see, h-here's this thing I t-think you don't care about

>S-看，h-这是我认为你不关心的事情

>L-look at h-how b-bad y-you are!!

>你-看看你-你有多糟糕你-你！！

Execute all illegals, anyone who employs illegals.

处决所有非法分子，任何雇用非法分子的人。

Additionally execute every traitorous politician who expands h1-b visas, every employer who employs h1-Bs,

另外处决每一个扩大 h1-b 签证范围的叛徒政客、每一个雇佣 h1-B 的雇主、

Does that satisfy you?

这让你满意吗？

>No, I'm being a faggot!

>不，我是个基佬！

I know.

我知道。

>>1528645

You know it's illegal to threaten a sitting president.

你知道威胁现任总统是违法的。

>>1528646

Joe Biden isn't a sitting president

乔·拜登不是现任总统

>>1528649

Trump is

特朗普

>https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/trump-calls-h-1b-visas-necessary-bring-certain-talents-says-us-lacks-rcna243367

>>1528412

Didn't the Romans import a bunch of barbarians to work as laborers in 4th century? What ever happened there? Were Barbarians the strength of Rome?

罗马人不是在4世纪引进了一批野蛮人来做劳工吗？那里曾经发生过什么？野蛮人是罗马的力量吗？

>>1528660

>Romans import a bunch of barbarians to work as laborers

>罗马人进口了一批野蛮人作为劳工

Yeah and it worked for literal centuries and gave them some of their greatest ages and figures. Flavius Aetius, last of the romans and the roman general who defeated Atilla the Hun, was literally descended from the "barbarians".

是的，它有效了几个世纪，并给了他们一些最伟大的年龄和身材。弗拉维乌斯·埃提乌斯（Flavius Aetius）是最后一位罗马人，也是击败匈奴阿提拉的罗马将军，他实际上是“野蛮人”的后裔。

The irony is that Rome ultimately got sacked because they eventually started reneging on immigration deals and not paying the same barbarian armies they employed to remove the previous emperor. Of course, prior to that the empire was already reduced to a skeleton of its former self due to decades of economic failure and civil wars, which ironically also includes the very one that the same Barbarians that ultimately did the final sacking of Rome were brought into and then screwed out of payment for.

具有讽刺意味的是，罗马最终被解雇，因为他们最终开始违背移民协议，并且没有向他们雇佣来推翻前任皇帝的野蛮军队支付费用。当然，在此之前，由于数十年的经济失败和内战，帝国已经只剩下一个骨架，讽刺的是，这也包括最终洗劫罗马的野蛮人被带入并被剥夺报酬的那场战争。

>>1528660

>Were Barbarians the strength of Rome?

>野蛮人是罗马的力量吗？

With how many Roman armies were made up of either them or their descendants, for a while they were in the most literal sense actually.

有多少罗马军队是由他们或他们的后裔组成的，有一段时间，他们实际上是最字面意义上的。

>>1528667

>Flavius Aetius, last of the romans and the roman general who defeated Atilla the Hun, was literally descended from the "barbarians".

>弗拉维乌斯·埃提乌斯（Flavius Aetius）是最后一位罗马人，也是击败匈奴阿提拉的罗马将军，他实际上是“野蛮人”的后裔。

No.

He was born in modern day Bulgaria, which by that time had been part of the empire for ~400 years and he was from a family that had Roman citizenship for generations. He was just a normal Roman.

他出生在现代保加利亚，当时保加利亚已经成为帝国的一部分约 400 年，他来自一个世代拥有罗马公民身份的家庭。他只是一个普通的罗马人。

Historical illiteracy is the basis of your entire argument.

历史文盲是你整个论点的基础。

>>1528670

The visigoths were, but they didn't integrate and later turned against Rome.

西哥特人是，但他们没有融入，后来转而反对罗马。

History doesn't repeat, but it rhymes.

历史不会重复，但却押韵。

>>1528679

>He was born in modern day Bulgaria, which by that time had been part of the empire for ~400 years and he was from a family that had Roman citizenship for generations. He was just a normal Roman.

>他出生在现代保加利亚，当时保加利亚已经成为帝国的一部分约 400 年，他来自一个世代拥有罗马公民身份的家庭。他只是一个普通的罗马人。

And what were they before that, anon?

在那之前他们是什么？

>>1528686

>The visigoths were, but they didn't integrate and later turned against Rome.

>西哥特人是，但他们没有融入，后来转而反对罗马。

They "didn't integrate" because the Eastern Romans literally vassalized them, used them as frontline troops against the West Romans, then basically left them out to dry after they took most of the casualties. And this was after a previous series of gothic rebellions because they got taxed to shit and treated as second class citizens.

他们“没有整合”，因为东罗马人实际上附庸了他们，将他们用作对抗西罗马人的前线部队，然后在造成大部分伤亡后基本上将他们晾在一边。这是在之前一系列哥特式叛乱之后发生的，因为他们被征税并被视为二等公民。

The lesson is "Don't treat your vassals like pawns because they'll eventually decide they'd rather take over than fight your battles for you."

这个教训是“不要把你的封臣当作棋子，因为他们最终会决定宁愿接管而不是为你而战。”

>>1528679

>Historical illiteracy is the basis of your entire argument.

>历史文盲是你整个论点的基础。

Bold words from someone who standing by the claim that Rome fell because of an action the Western empire had been doing for over 400 years and the Eastern empire continued to do for 1000 more.

这句话出自某人之口，他坚信罗马的灭亡是由于西罗马帝国 400 多年以来的行为以及东罗马帝国持续 1000 多年的行为所致。

>>1528667

>Of course, prior to that the empire was already reduced to a skeleton of its former self due to decades of economic failure and civil wars,

>当然，在此之前，由于数十年的经济失败和内战，帝国已经沦为废墟，

Shouldn't have all the immigrants caused economic prosperity? Why did they keep experiencing economic failure and civil wars?

难道所有的移民不都应该带来经济繁荣吗？为什么他们不断经历经济失败和内战？