SOME COMPANIES ARE USING EMINENT DOMAIN FOR DATA CENTERS

https://fortune.com/2026/07/19/data-center-eminent-domain-public-use/

Power companies are using eminent domain to seize land for data centers as 70% of Americans say not in my backyard

电力公司正利用征用权征用土地来建设数据中心，尽管70%的美国人表示“别在我家后院”（NIMBY）

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The artificial intelligence boom in the United States is being matched by a data center building boom. There are more than 3,000 data centers in the U.S. and another 1,500 in development, according to a Pew Research Center analysis.

美国的人工智能热潮正伴随着数据中心的建设热潮。皮尤研究中心的分析显示，美国已有3000多家数据中心，另有1500家正在开发中。

While President Donald Trump has promoted AI advancement, calling it crucial to economic and national security, polling shows that 7 in 10 Americans oppose the construction of AI data centers in their communities, citing higher utility bills, pollution, noise and the loss of green space. These centers, which hold computer servers that process words, images and lines of code for large language models such as ChatGPT, also use high amounts of water and electricity.

尽管唐纳德·特朗普总统大力推广人工智能发展，称其对经济和国家安保至关重要，但民调显示，十分之七的美国人反对在其社区建设人工智能数据中心，理由是公用事业费上涨、污染、噪音以及绿地减少。这些存放服务器、用于处理ChatGPT等大型语言模型的文本、图像和代码的数据中心，还要消耗大量的水和电力。

There is growing opposition to the infrastructure surrounding them, too, particularly the transmission lines needed to power them, which often must cross land belonging to private citizens.

围绕这些基础设施的反对声浪也在加剧，尤其是为它们供电所需的输电线路，这些线路往往必须穿越私人拥有的土地。

Where private citizens refuse to sell their land, companies are turning to eminent domain, the government’s inherent power to seize private property without a landowner’s consent. But does a line built to serve a private data center qualify?

当私人业主拒绝出售土地时，公司便转向征用权，即政府无需土地所有者同意即可征用私有财产的根本权力。但是，为私人数据中心服务的线路是否符合资格？

I’m a legal scholar who studies eminent domain issues, and I interpret today’s disputes over seizure of property for the benefit of AI infrastructure as the latest incarnation of a long-standing debate about the limits of taking private property for public use.

我是一名研究征用权问题的法律学者，我认为今天关于为人工智能基础设施利益而征收财产的争议，是长期以来关于为公共用途征收私人财产界限之争的最新体现。

Data centers have massive power needs that can stress electrical grids and threaten their reliability. In 2024 they accounted for more than 4% of the nation’s total electricity use. Demand will grow as more are built. To meet this demand, power companies must build more transmission lines – and acquire land to put them on.

数据中心有巨大的电力需求，这会给电网带来压力并威胁其可靠性。2024年，它们占全国总用电量的4%以上。随着更多数据中心的建成，需求还将增长。为了满足这一需求，电力公司必须建设更多的输电线路——并收购用于铺设这些线路的土地。

Across the U.S. – in states such as Georgia and Pennsylvania – power companies have looked to eminent domain to facilitate these goals.

在美国各地——如佐治亚州和宾夕法尼亚州——电力公司曾试图借助“征用权”来实现这些目标。

What is eminent domain?

什么是征用权（eminent domain）？

Power companies can approach landowners to purchase easements for transmission lines; if landowners refuse, the government might force a sale.

电力公司可以主动联系土地所有者，购买输电线路所需的地役权；如果土地所有者拒绝，政府可能会强制出售。

The government may take private land without consent if the seizure is for “public use” and if the landowner is given “just compensation,” according to the takings clause of the Fifth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.

根据美国宪法第五修正案中的“征用条款”（takings clause），如果征收是为了“公共使用”，并且向土地所有者提供了“公正赔偿”，政府可以在未经同意的情况下征收私人土地。

While the federal government has the power to initiate eminent domain actions – also called condemnations – most are done by state and local governments.

虽然联邦政府有权发起征用行动——也称为“没收”——但大多数征用是由州和地方政府执行的。

Governments can also delegate this power to private entities or “common carriers,” such as power and water companies, though every state has its own rules for whether and how these utilities can exercise eminent domain. In Texas, for example, the state Supreme Court has held that a project must “serve the public” and “cannot be built only for the builder’s exclusive use” in order to qualify as a common carrier.

政府还可以将这项权力下放给私营实体或“公用承运人”，例如电力和水务公司，不过每个州对于公用事业是否以及如何行使征用权都有各自的规定。例如，在德克萨斯州，州最高法院裁定，一个项目必须“服务于公众”且“不能仅为建设者的专属用途而建造”，才能符合公用承运人的资格。

What is the ‘public use’ standard?

“公共使用”的标准是什么？

While property may be taken only for “public use,” the U.S. Supreme Court has interpreted that requirement permissively. In its 2005 Kelo v. City of New London decision, the court held that economic development qualified, allowing New London, Connecticut, to seize homes for private development around a Pfizer facility. That redevelopment, however, never happened, and Pfizer eventually left New London.

虽然财产只能为“公共使用”而被征收，但美国最高法院对此要求采取了宽松的解释。在2005年的“基洛诉新伦敦市案”（Kelo v. City of New London）中，法院认定经济发展符合条件，允许康涅狄格州的新伦敦市为了围绕辉瑞工厂的私人开发项目而征收住宅。然而，这一再开发项目最终并未实施，辉瑞后来也离开了新伦敦。

In response to that decision – and the public backlash that followed – 45 states enacted eminent domain reform laws.

作为对这一裁决及其引发的公众强烈反对此举的回应，45个州出台了征用权改革法案。

In addition to reform laws, some state supreme courts interpret the eminent domain provisions of their own state constitutions more restrictively. The supreme courts of Michigan, Ohio and Oklahoma have all prohibited seizing private property to give it to another private party purely for economic development.

除了改革法案外，一些州的最高法院对其州宪法中的征用条款进行了更严格的解释。密歇根州、俄亥俄州和俄克拉荷马州的最高法院均禁止为了纯粹的经济发展目的而征收私有财产并转让给其他私人方。

This means private landowners may have more success challenging condemnation actions under their state constitutions than in federal court. Still, courts typically permit exercise of eminent domain by utilities such as power companies.

这意味着，与在联邦法院相比，私人土地所有者更有可能依据其州宪法成功挑战征用行动。尽管如此，法院通常仍允许电力公司等公用事业企业行使征用权。

Suits challenging the seizure of property for transmission lines on the grounds of public use have mixed results.

以“公共使用”为由挑战为输电线路征收财产的诉讼，结果好坏参半。

For example, the supreme courts of South Dakota and Vermont have each affirmed seizures by power companies,

例如，南达科他州和佛蒙特州的最高法院均支持了电力公司的征收行为，

determining that providing at least some energy and improved power grid reliability to in-state customers were valid public uses.

认定向州内客户提供至少部分电力以及改善电网可靠性属于有效的公共用途。

But this argument changes if transmission lines, some of which cross state lines, don’t benefit anyone in the state.

但是，如果输电线路（其中一些跨越州界）并未给该州的任何人带来任何利益，那么这一论点就不再成立。

In 1984, for example, the Mississippi Supreme Court rejected a power company’s condemnation action because the transmission line in question would have run from Mississippi into Louisiana without benefiting any Mississippi customers.

例如，1984年密西西比州最高法院驳回了一家电力公司的征收诉讼，因为争议的输电线路将从密西西比州延伸至路易斯安那州，而并未惠及任何密西西比州的客户。

These decisions suggest that as data centers increase energy demand and stress current infrastructure, seizing land to improve power grid reliability will likely qualify as public use, especially if the intention is to secure reliability for in-state customers.

这些判决表明，随着数据中心增加能源需求并对现有基础设施造成压力，征收土地以提高电网可靠性很可能被认定为“公共用途”，尤其是如果意图是确保本州客户的供电可靠性。

Still, arguments around whether additional transmission lines actually serve in-state customers may give landowners grounds for a challenge.

尽管如此，关于额外的输电线路是否真的服务于本州客户的争论，可能会给土地所有者提出挑战的理由。

The answer to data centers is to mandate they only be built in existing industrial areas, build their own power plants and use a closed-loop cooling system.

解决数据中心问题的办法是：强制要求它们只建在现有的工业区，自建发电厂，并使用闭式循环冷却系统。

The answer to data centers is to google who owns them, google the etymology of their surname and look up the early life section of their wikipedia page.

应对数据中心的方法是：谷歌一下谁拥有它们，查查他们姓氏的词源，再看看维基百科上关于他们早年生活的部分。

Do you want them to build the data centers only in Mexico?

你是想让他们只在墨西哥建数据中心吗？

>>1524430

Put them in space or fuck off.

把它们建到太空去，否则就滚蛋。

>>1524433

Put them in Space - preferably a Black Hole.

把它们送到太空去——最好是黑洞里。

>>1524430

I'd rather those leeches never got built at all. Sucking up the global supply of electronic hardware, electricity, and water to make, what, shitty porn? Christ.

我宁愿这些吸血鬼永远别建起来。吸干全球电子硬件、电力和水的供应，就为了搞什么？该死的色情片？天哪。

>>1524441

All entertainment is more accurate. Right now we're in the transition phase but people often forget that despite the protests of people complaining about immigrant labor back in the 90s and 00s, all we got for all the trouble was one South Park episode painting people arguing in favor of human labor as luddite rednecks screaming 'Dey took our jerbs!'

所有的娱乐作品都更准确。目前我们正处于过渡阶段，但人们往往忘记，尽管90年代和00年代那些抱怨移民劳动力的人抗议不断，但我们得到的麻烦只是一集《南方公园》，把那些主张人力工作的支持者描绘成大喊“他们抢了我们的工作！”的卢德派红脖子。

It'll be the same with the AI argument. Its meant to replace labor, as much labor as they can get away with replacing, and it will, whether people like it or not. The purpose of the exercise is not to produce a good product, otherwise we wouldn't have given any jobs to Paco and Chang to begin with - the purpose of the exercise is to minimize the benefits and pay that they have to give to labor, and it'll go exactly the same way it did the last time they minimized the benefits and pay that they have to give to labor. Which is to say, its happening, and there's nothing anyone can do about it.

人工智能的争论也是一样的。它的目的就是替代劳动力，能替代多少就替代多少，不管人们喜不喜欢，它都会实现。这项工作的目的不是生产优质产品，否则我们一开始就不会把活儿交给帕科和老常——这项工作的目的是最大限度地减少他们必须提供给劳动力的福利和薪酬，而结果将和上次他们最小化福利和薪酬时完全一样。也就是说，这件事正在发生，任何人都无能为力。

pesky humans, NIMBY

讨厌的人类，NIMBY（邻避主义）

>>1524442

>was one South Park episode painting people arguing in favor of human labor as luddite rednecks screaming 'Dey took our jerbs!'

>只是一集《南方公园》，把那些主张人力工作的支持者描绘成大喊“他们抢了我们的工作！”的卢德派红脖子

You're a retarded esl shill, but I'll throw you a bone here

你是个白痴般的英语非母语者水军，不过我就算给你点甜头吧

That wasn't the point of the South Park episode, the point was the retarded rednecks couldn't actually address the problem other than yelling 'TOOK UR JERBS' and uselessly fucking each other

那不是《南方公园》那集的重点，重点是那群白痴红脖子除了大喊“抢了你们的工作”之外，根本无法真正解决问题，只会无能地互撸

Which was, and still is, MIGA in a nutshell

而这，用一句话来说，就是MIGA（墨西哥人带来移民岗位消失）的本质

>>1524471

You know rightards don't understand satire, quit bullying the poor dumb faggot.

你知道右派不懂讽刺，别霸凌那个可怜的小傻瓜了。

>>1524427

Socialize the costs and privatize the profit at the expense of the tax payers. It's fucking retarded that they are receiving subsidized water and electricity at the cost of residents.

把成本社会化，把利润私有化，却由纳税人买单。他们享受补贴水电，却让居民掏钱，这他妈真是蠢透了。

1524471

1524473

Are you responding to yourself in every thread or is this you and your ESL non white bf coordinating in discord?

你是每个帖子都自己在回复，还是你和你的 ESL 非白人男友在 Discord 上串通好的？

look at esl shill projecting again. i could truly set my clock to it

快看那个 ESL 水军在跳梁 Again。我都能靠这节奏对表了。

>>1524493

its delicious frustration, truly a good harvest

真是让人爽翻的挫败感，收成真好啊。

>>1524471

>>1524473

Imagine complaining that nothing is being done while constantly advocating against the improvements.

想象一下一边抱怨没人做事，一边又不断反对改进措施的样子。

That's how we know you're ideals are fed to you by corporate interests via LGBTQ NGOs, and the paid corporate media.

这就是我们知道你的理念是 LGBTQ 非政府组织和付费企业媒体被企业利益喂养出来的原因。

>>1524497

Imagine having no concept of causal relationships, and thinking things objectively measurably hurting the country are good because you're a racist. Imagine screeching about corporate interests with the cock of the pedo-daddy who keeps accepting/demanding kickbacks and giving tax cuts to corporate interests in your mouth.

想象一下完全不懂因果关系，因为你是个种族主义者，所以把客观上、可测量地伤害国家的事情当成好事。想象一下，一边像那个不断收受/索要回扣、嘴里塞满给企业减税的恋童癖老爹一样趾高气扬，一边又对所谓“企业利益”尖叫。

>>1524551

Well, as we learned trickle down works because taxes are passed to consumers.

好吧，正如我们所知，涓滴效应是有效的，因为税款最终转嫁给了消费者。

At least we aren't taxing consumers to pay billionaire's trillions via government contracts, and calling anyone who gets in the way racist like fucking children.

至少我们不像某些人那样，通过政府合同向消费者征税来支付给亿万富翁的万亿财富，然后像疯子一样把任何阻碍者称为种族主义者。

Maybe take the dick out ya own butt, faggot?

把你自己屁股里的鸡巴拔出来吧，杂种？

>>1524580

how did you end up with such a humiliating job

你怎么沦落到干这种丢人的工作？

Virginia has more data centers than any other state

弗吉尼亚州的数据中心比其他任何州都多。

Virginia has a Democrat Governor

弗吉尼亚州的州长是民主党人。

coincidence?

>>1524593

This post is wrong

这个帖子是错的。

ESL is wrong about everything they post

ESL 发布的每一件事都是错的。

inevitability?

>>1524551

Can you try to add more buzzwords to your shitposting? Some people might not realize you're retarded and just think you're a schizo

你能不能在你们的垃圾帖子里加点流行语？有些人可能看不出你是蠢货，还以为你是精神分裂呢。

>>1524597

can you invest in this rupee i'm allowing you to cherish

你能不能投资一下我允许你珍视的卢比？

>>1524599

God you're esl

天哪，你真是个英语渣子

Esl shill quoted me again, lol

ESL 水军又引用了我，哈哈。

What happened to owning guns?

拥有枪支的权利去哪了？

>>1524593

ESL trying to deflect from trump giving AI slop companies half a trillion dollars and blocking all regulation.

ESL 试图转移注意力，不让大家关注特朗普给 AI 垃圾公司半万亿美元并阻断所有监管的事。

>>1524605

It died with privacy rights and freedom of association.

它随着隐私权和自由结社权的消失而消亡了。

but /pol/ told me that Americans own their property unlike the COMMUNIST CHINESE who only rent it from the government

但 /pol/ 告诉我，美国人像拥有自己的财产一样拥有房产，而不像只从政府那里租赁的“共产主义中国人”。

>>1524605

Who can afford a gun with gas prices this high?

油价这么高，谁买得起枪？

>>1524430

That's a really stupid question.

这是个真正愚蠢的问题。

Not new, local governments have a nasty trick of seizing land "for the public good" to make a park or something, then mismanaging the construction badly enough that they can legally give up and sell the land to the developer who wanted it in the first place.

这并不新鲜，地方政府有一手恶毒的把戏：以“公共利益”为由征收土地，比如建个公园之类，然后通过糟糕的工程管理，合法地放弃并卖给一开始就觊觎那块土地的开发商。

>>1524433

>Put them in space

>把他们送到太空去

Data Centers create a lot of heat, and the normal way things cool down is by radiating it into the air. If you put something hot into a vaccum, it stays hot way longer.

数据中心产生大量热量，通常的方式是通过向空气辐射来散热。如果你把热的东西放进真空里，它会长时间保持高温。

>>1524634

Make one.

做一个啊。

>>1524634

Then grab a knife. A shovel. A fucking rock.

然后拿把刀、一把铲子、或者他妈的一块石头。

They're taking your home. Fight. If not for this then for what?

他们要夺走你的家。反抗吧。如果不是为了这个，那又是为了什么？

>>1524738

How about I just vote for Democrats who are demonstrably worse when it comes to the economy and gas prices?

要不我就投给那些在经济和油价方面明显更差的民主党人？

I'm super smort.

我超聪明的。

>>1524428

>use a closed-loop cooling system.

>使用闭式冷却系统。

Even closed loop cooling systems have to be cleaned and maintained which means chemicals being used to flush the pipes out, which inevitably means pollution and contamination to deal with, which they currently are not. Even a closed loop water cooling system has evaporation to deal with as well, and generally systems max out at ~85% efficiency or so, meaning new water must be constantly pumped in.

即使是闭式循环冷却系统也需要清洗和维护，这意味着要使用化学品冲洗管道，不可避免地会带来污染和污染物处理问题，而目前他们并没有处理这些。即使是闭式水冷系统也存在蒸发问题，而且通常系统效率最高也就85%左右，这意味着必须不断注入新水。

I used to work at a government fish hatchery which used similar "water retention" techniques, but those facilities used unfiltered salt water and had a huge number of regulations they had to follow.

我以前在一家政府鱼苗场工作过，那里也使用类似的“水体保留”技术，但这些设施使用的是未经过滤的咸水，并且必须遵守大量的法规。

The fact that the US government is subsidizing the water and electric these facilities are using should make it abundantly clear that they operate at a loss for taxpayers benefit.

美国政府正在对这些设施使用的水和电进行补贴，这应该清楚地表明，它们是在以纳税人的利益为代价亏损运营。

They completely depend on cheap access to water and electricity to barely edge out the least productive workers in our society, and then it's supposed to provide for said laid off workers somehow?

它们完全依赖廉价的水和电力，勉强胜过社会上生产力最低的那些人，然后据说还要 somehow 供养那些被解雇的工人？

>>1524423

It looks like nobody can’t ask that simple question concerning the matter at hand.

看来没人能提出关于此事的简单问题。

Why it is necessary now to build 10-20 thousand fast data centers around the world ?

为什么现在有必要在全球建造1万到2万个高速数据中心？

And why near the urban areas?

为什么建在城市区域附近？

The focus is firstly in industrialized and economically well done countries like in Europe, N-America, China etc.

重点首先是在工业化和经济发达的国家，如欧洲、北美、中国等。

All behind the need is Orwellian like Society where everybody and everything are under the control. This has been in preparation already for decades, step by step, and this ongoing latest step has to be done before 6G is activated ( the plan is 2030).

这一切背后的需求是像《1984》里那样，每个人和每件事都处于控制之下。这已经为 decades 做准备，一步一步地进行，这一步必须在6G激活之前完成（计划是2030年）。

6G is needed for Industrialized IoT (IIoT) system, where every man made gadget and human is wanted to tract around the clock.

6G对于工业物联网（IIoT）系统是必需的，在那里，每个人造物人和人类都会被全天候追踪。

Centers create the base for governments to build system where everybody is dependent in digital IDs , permissions to use something e.g. health service, net, to buy, to sell etc.

这些中心为政府建立了一个人人依赖数字ID、权限（例如使用医疗服务、网络、购买、销售等）的系统奠定了基础。

The project has already tested to chip people with vaccines, almost every manufactured gadgets have assembled with IoT ready chips ( robot vacuum cleaner, freezers, cars etc).

该项目已经测试过通过疫苗给人体植入芯片，几乎每个人造设备都装配了物联网就绪芯片（机器人吸尘器、冰箱、汽车等）。

After there are enough fast data centers at work it’s necessary to remove legal tender (cash money) and start digital. Then everything else happens smoothly and quickly. Welcome to new society!

在足够多的高速数据中心投入运行后，就有必要废除法定货币（现金），开始数字化。然后其他事情就会顺利快速地发生。欢迎来到新社会！

>>1524739

>How about I just vote for Democrats who are demonstrably worse when it comes to the economy and gas prices?

>那我干脆投票给民主党，他们在经济问题和汽油价格上明显更差，怎么样？

You've literally never looked at economic data, huh?

你 literally 从未看过经济数据，是吗？

The real problem with eminent domain (in other cases) is that the people who are displaced receive benefits that others do not. They get their house bought off, or the apartments get torn down, so the state gives them cash to move elsewhere and that affects people who have already bought homes or are renting apartments. Everyone is negatively affected.

征用权（在其他情况下）的真正问题在于，被流离失所的人获得的利益是其他人所没有的。他们获得了房屋收购款，或者公寓被拆除，所以国家给他们现金去别处搬迁，这就影响了那些已经买房或租房的人。每个人都受到了负面影响。

With data centers, everyone's utilities get jacked up and everyone pays for it in taxes as well, yet only a handful of people see any benefit from it. It's just another way to transfer money and property from everyone else to the very wealthy. Only the worst trolls or shills would support it.

建数据中心的话，大家的公用事业费用都会暴涨，还得通过税收买单，但只有少数人能从中获益。这不过是把别人的钱和财产转移到极少数富豪手中的另一种手段而已。支持它的只有最烂的喷子和水军。

>>1524750

No, they've seen economic data. It's just you might as well ask a dog to look at a spreadsheet.

不，他们已经看过经济数据了。只是你就像让狗去看电子表格一样，没啥用。

>>1524749

Its simpler than that

其实比那更简单。

>world is fucking ending

>世界他妈的要完了

>legit shit will become inhospitable in a few generations

>好日子在几代人之后会变得无法生存

>massive famine, starvation, disasters, wars, riots, societal collapse

>大规模饥荒、饿死、灾难、战争、骚乱、社会崩溃

>the fucking billionaires are all in a race to make goddamn rocket ships to get away before all hell breaks loose

>那帮该死的亿万富翁正在竞相制造火箭，好在一团糟之前赶紧逃跑

>the less rich but still stupidly rich are building bunkers, private islands, storing warehouses worth of goods and weapons and hiring private guards.

>没那么有钱但依然穷奢极欲的家伙们在建掩体、买私人岛屿、囤积仓库级别的物资和武器，还雇佣私人保镖。

>before the general masses freak the fuck out we better put eyes on EVERYONE, track who they are and what they do and have algorithms to decide who might do a WRONGTHINK, just like they beta tested all last decade in china (why did you go out the back door today? what are you planning?)

>在普通大众彻底疯掉之前，我们最好监视所有人，追踪他们是谁、在做什么，并用算法来决定谁可能“思想反动”，就像他们在中国整个十年间进行的那样（你今天为什么走后门？你在策划什么？）

Its easier to slip a noose on a sleeping giant than one on fire. None of this AI bullshit is about anything but control before the real fighting starts

给沉睡的巨人套绞索比对烈火中的巨人容易。这些AI的胡扯根本无关其他，只是在真正开战前加强控制。