Doctors question evidence behind Pentagon plan for testosterone screening

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jul/18/us-military-testosterone-screening-doctors

The US defense secretary, Pete Hegseth, this week ordered an annual testosterone-deficiency screening for active-duty and reserve service members aged 30 and older, which he says will help to maintain military readiness.

美国国防部长皮特·海格塞斯本周下令，对30岁及以上的现役和预备役军人进行年度睾酮缺乏症筛查，他表示这将有助于维持军事战备状态。

But many medical professionals warn it might do nothing of the sort and instead could increase service members’ risk of infertility or lead to other consequences if testosterone is prescribed inappropriately.

但许多医疗专业人士警告称，此举可能毫无作用，反而可能增加军人的不孕风险，或在睾酮被不当处方的情况下导致其他后果。

The mandate is one of several recent healthcare policy changes implemented by Hegseth and other Trump administration cabinet officials that have sparked debate among experts and raised questions about what scientific basis, if any, supports them.

这项强制要求是海格塞斯和其他特朗普内阁官员近期实施的一系列医疗政策变革之一，这些变革在专家中引发了争议，并让人质疑其是否有任何科学依据支持。

Hegseth has also reversed the military’s longstanding flu vaccine mandate, a decision that was walked back after a flu outbreak, while the Department of Health and Human Services removed 17 members from its vaccine advisory panel and altered its vaccine recommendations.

海格塞斯还推翻了军队长期执行的流感疫苗强制接种令，该决定在流感爆发后又被撤销；与此同时，卫生和公众服务部从疫苗咨询小组中除名了17名成员，并更改了其疫苗建议。

Five of six men’s health experts contacted by Reuters for this story said they were puzzled by the announcement on testosterone testing and concerned it may lead to unnecessary – or even harmful – treatment.

路透社为报道此事联系的五位男性健康专家中，有六位表示，他们对睾酮检测的声明感到困惑，并担心这可能导致不必要——甚至有害——的治疗。

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Hegseth said testing would be accompanied by advice to help soldiers make decisions about treatment, which would be voluntary.

海格塞斯表示，检测将伴随提供建议，以帮助士兵做出治疗决定，而治疗将是自愿的。

The goals, he added, are to ensure troops have the right testosterone levels to operate at their absolute best and to improve their resilience, longevity and performance, so as to ensure the military’s combat readiness.

他补充说，目标是确保部队拥有正确的睾酮水平，以发挥最佳状态，并提高他们的韧性、寿命和表现，从而确保军队的战斗准备状态。

Four of the six doctors said there was no solid evidence suggesting that screening for low testosterone in all military personnel aged 30 and older would optimize US readiness for combat.

六位医生中有四位表示，没有确凿证据表明，对所有30岁及以上的军人进行低睾酮筛查会优化美国的战斗准备状态。

“We hear from patients that when you treat low T, things like cognitive alertness and stamina improve. But the evidence is not concrete, and it comes from patients who were treated because they were symptomatic,” said Dr Kevin McVary, a urologist on the medical advisory board of Rugiet, a telehealth platform that provides testosterone supplements.

我们收到的患者反馈显示，治疗低睾酮水平可以改善诸如认知警觉性和耐力等问题。但这些证据并不确凿，且来自那些因出现症状而接受治疗的病人，”罗吉特（Rugiet）——一家提供睾酮补充剂的远程医疗平台——医疗咨询委员会的泌尿科医生凯文·麦克瓦里博士说。

The Pentagon declined to comment on the matter beyond its brief official statement.

五角大楼除了简短的官方声明外，拒绝就此事发表评论。

Testing recommended for symptoms

建议在有症状的情况下进行检测

The American Urological Association and the Endocrine Society advise testosterone supplementation only for patients with confirmed testosterone deficiency and symptoms such as reduced libido, erectile dysfunction, fatigue, decreased muscle mass and low bone density.

美国泌尿学会和内分泌学会建议，仅对确诊为睾酮缺乏且伴有性欲减退、勃起功能障碍、疲劳、肌肉量减少和骨密度降低等症状的患者进行睾酮补充治疗。

Giving testosterone without medical symptoms leads to overtreatment, McVary said, which can have its own adverse consequences.

麦克维里表示，在没有医学指征的情况下使用睾酮会导致过度治疗，这可能带来自身的不良后果。

Levels naturally decline with age, starting around age 30. But age 30 itself is not an appropriate point for screening, said Dr Haleem Mohammed, chief medical officer of Gameday Health, a men’s wellness and medical clinic network.

睾酮水平会随年龄增长而自然下降，通常从30岁左右开始。但盖姆迪健康（Gameday Health，一家男性健康与医疗诊所网络）的首席医疗官哈利姆·穆罕默德博士表示，30岁本身并不是进行筛查的合适时间点。

“There is a population-level decline of 1% per year after ages 30-40 that accelerates as you get older,” but the patterns are not the same for all, Mohammed said.

“在30至40岁之后，睾酮水平每年以1%的速度下降，且随着年龄增长加速下降，但并非所有人都遵循这一模式，”穆罕默德说。

Most studies of testosterone replacement have been done in older men, noted Dr Ugis Gruntmanis, an endocrinologist at Dartmouth Hitchcock medical center, who said the new mandate provides an opportunity to collect data on younger men.

达特茅斯希契科克医疗中心（Dartmouth Hitchcock medical center）的内分泌学家乌吉斯·格朗塔尼斯博士指出，大多数睾酮替代疗法研究都是在老年男性中进行的，他表示这项新指令为收集年轻男性的数据提供了机会。

He added, however, that widespread implementation of screening without preliminary study data would be putting the carriage before the horse.

但他补充说，如果没有初步研究数据就广泛实施筛查，那就是本末倒置。

FDA lifted warning

FDA撤销警告

Based partly on a study led by Dr Steven Nissen of the Cleveland Clinic, involving more than 5,200 men aged 45 to 80 with low testosterone and high risk of heart disease, the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) revised testosterone labels to remove a warning of increased risks of heart attack or stroke. The participants, however, showed higher rates of atrial arrhythmia – an abnormal heart rhythm – and bone fractures, a finding that may have implications for the military, Nissen said.

部分基于克利夫兰诊所史蒂文·尼森博士领导的一项涉及5200多名睾酮水平低下且心脏病风险高发的45至80岁男性的研究，美国食品药品监督管理局（FDA）修订了睾酮标签，删除了关于心肌梗死或中风风险增加的警告。然而，尼森表示，参与者出现了更高比例的心房颤动（一种异常心律）和骨折，这一发现可能对军方产生影响。

All of the experts contacted by Reuters also mentioned the severe impact of testosterone therapy on male fertility.

路透社联系到的所有专家也都提到了睾酮疗法对男性生育能力的严重影响。

“Many in our armed forces are young men who are not done having their families,” McVary said. “If you just dole out the testosterone, the testes will shrink. And you can’t reliably count on them coming back.”

“军队中有许多年轻男性还没有组建自己的家庭，”麦克维里说。“如果你随便发放睾酮，睾丸就会萎缩，而且不能可靠地指望它们能恢复。”

Other risks include blood thickening, prostate issues, acne, hair loss, breast tissue growth and mood volatility.

其他风险包括血液变稠、前列腺问题、痤疮、脱发、乳腺组织生长和情绪波动。

In his announcement, Hegseth said one objective for the new screening mandate is to comprehensively address operator syndrome, which afflicts special forces such as Delta Force members and Navy Seals and includes low testosterone along with traumatic brain injury, hormonal and metabolic dysregulation, sleep dysregulation and other maladies.

在黑塞斯在公告中表示，新筛查令的一个目标是全面解决“操作员综合征”，该综合征影响三角洲部队成员和海军海豹突击队等特殊部队人员，症状包括睾酮低下、创伤性脑损伤、激素和代谢失调、睡眠失调及其他疾病。

But special forces operators are not representative of all active duty and reserve members, said Dr B Christopher Frueh of the University of Hawaii, whose team first described the syndrome in 2020.

夏威夷大学的B·克里斯托弗·弗鲁埃博士表示，特种部队操作员并不能代表所有现役和预备役成员，他的团队在2020年首次描述了该综合征。

“These operators are at an extreme end of a spectrum,” Frueh said. “They have much higher exposures to blasts, airplane jumps, firing all kinds of different weapons, shoulder-fired rockets, machine guns.”

“这些操作员处于光谱的极端一端，”弗鲁埃说。“他们遭受爆炸、飞机跳伞、发射各种不同武器、肩射火箭和机枪等 exposure（暴露）的程度要高得多。”

Other soldiers might have elements of the syndrome, he said, “but should we be screening 100% of everybody? Maybe. I don’t know.”

他表示，其他士兵可能也有该综合征的一些表现，“但我们要对100%的人进行筛查吗？也许吧。我也不确定。”

He believes many younger soldiers could regulate hormones through sleep, rest and diet to bring testosterone levels back up, rather than turning to replacement therapy.

他认为，许多年轻士兵可以通过睡眠、休息和饮食来调节激素，从而使睾酮水平回升，而不是转向替代疗法。

Weight and low testosterone

体重与低睾酮

Still, medical professionals emphasize potential benefits from appropriate testosterone testing, as with other forms of medical tests.

尽管如此，医疗专业人员强调，正如其他形式的医学检测一样，适当的睾酮检测具有潜在的益处。

Gameday Health’s Mohammed said military reservists in the general population may be overweight, another correctable factor that can contribute to low testosterone.

Gameday Health的穆罕默德表示，普通人群中现役军人储备役人员可能超重，这也是另一个可导致睾酮低的可纠正因素。

“Testosterone is one of the most useful blood tests we have to gauge health in men,” Mohammed said. “Broader screening would identify many men with reversible causes and some with true deficiency. Both groups would benefit from clinician-guided care, whether that means correcting reversible causes or starting treatment when it is truly warranted.“

穆罕默德说：“睾酮是我们用于评估男性健康状况的最有用的血液检测指标之一。”“更广泛的筛查将识别出许多具有可逆原因的男性，以及部分真正缺乏睾酮者。这两组人群都将受益于临床医生的指导，无论是纠正可逆原因，还是在确实必要时开始治疗。”

The Pentagon has not provided detailed guidance on how abnormal test results will be evaluated or whether screenings will apply equally to men and women.

五角大楼尚未提供有关如何评估异常检测结果以及筛查是否对男性和女性同等适用的详细指导。

Frueh of the University of Hawaii said broad screening could also reveal new information about female soldiers’ hormones.

夏威夷大学的弗鲁表示，广泛筛查还可能揭示关于女性士兵激素的新信息。

“Females aren’t going to need testosterone replacement in all likelihood, but they may need other hormonal interventions,” he said.

他说：“女性不太可能需要睾酮替代治疗，但她们可能需要其他激素干预。”

>>1524363

>widespread implementation of screening without preliminary study data

>在没有初步研究数据的情况下广泛实施筛查

The screening creates study data. If anything the military should have very good numbers for testosterone due to the good health and fitness and young age.

筛查本身就会生成研究数据。如果说有什么不同的话，由于军队人员健康状况良好、体能优秀且年轻，他们的睾酮数据应该非常可观。

These are people who exercise and aren't fat. They are the most healthy of the US population.

这些人经常锻炼，也不胖。他们是美国人口中最健康的一群。

>>1524361

>Five of six men’s health experts contacted by Reuters for this story said they were puzzled by the announcement on testosterone testing and concerned it may lead to unnecessary – or even harmful – treatment.

>路透社为此报道联系到的六名男性健康专家中有五人表示，他们对睾酮检测的公告感到困惑，并担心这可能导致不必要——甚至有害——的治疗。

Well, apparently you can't trust doctors as the army will need them to prescribe anything. So what's the point of asking these untrustworthy doctors to create a compelling nothingburger argument?

好吧，显然你不能信任医生，因为军队需要他们来开药。所以，让这些不可信的医生去构建一个毫无意义的论点，有什么意义呢？

And remember, folks, the opposition wants free castration for military troons.

而且记住，各位，反对派希望为军事变性人提供免费的绝育手术。

>>1524370

i can't wait until all of you weird faggots are court martialed

我真想快点看到你们这群怪胎被军事法庭审判。

>>1524361

These people are so fucking embarrassing. An entire administration full of man-children.

这些人真是他妈的丢人现眼。整个政府领导班子都是一群男人小孩。

>>1524367

none of your statements are true.

你说的每一句话都不是真的。

>>1524367

The military is mostly fat browns with no prospects anymore. Been this way for quite some time.

军队里大部分是肥胖的棕色人种，已经没有前途了。这种情况已经持续很长时间了。

I really think Kegseth should have to undergo these treatments, but even then he won't ever understand the full scope of what he's doing. He thinks testosterone is magic and will turn our boys into superman.

我真觉得格斯基特应该接受这些治疗，但即便如此，他也永远不会完全理解他在做什么。他认为睾酮是魔法，能把我们的士兵变成超人。

The reality is supplementing with testosterone will make your natural production decline. Meaning it won't have the desired effect off the field because that's not how hormones work.

事实是，补充睾酮会导致你自身的分泌量下降。这意味着你在赛场下并不会达到预期的效果，因为荷尔蒙就是这么运作的。

ON the field? When you are sometimes fighting for days, and don't have access to your fucking meds? Can you imagine being locked in the middle of a firefight, not having your T patch or pills, and feeling a wave of the estrogen you're making in higher amounts to offset the extra Testosterone wash over you, making you want to break down in a crying fit?

那在赛场上呢？当你有时连续几天都在拼命厮杀，还他妈接触不到你的药时？你能想象被锁在交火中心，没有睾酮贴片或药片，感觉体内为了抵消过量睾酮而产生更多雌激素的浪潮涌过全身，让你想崩溃大哭吗？

How deliciously fucking ironic kegseth wants to ban troons and give men testosterone to make them tough, and will end up turning them into giant pussies instead. This is why we take medical advice from doctors, not whatever lush can suck the president's cock the best.

凯格塞斯（Hegseth）想禁止跨性别者，又想让男人注射睾酮变强硬，这讽刺得简直太他妈美味了，结果最后却会把他们变成巨型娘炮。这就是为什么我们要听医生的医学建议，而不是听那个靠给总统口交最厉害的酒鬼屁精的建议。

>>1524370

Do you want to try that again in English?

你愿意用英语再重复一遍吗？

>>1524408

Don't worry, rape daddy keeps trying to start wars of aggression across multiple fronts, at this rate eventually he'll start drafting blonde haired blue eyed kids to go die on your behalf instead.

别担心，“强奸老爹”正努力在多线发动侵略战争，照这个速度，迟早他会开始征召金发碧眼的孩子替你去死。

>sex hormones for you, you, and you!

>性激素，给你，给你，还有给你！

why are the trt trannies like this? lol explains a lot about hegseth. I wouldn't be surprised if 80% of the "men" in Trump's orbit are actually these trannies in disguise.

为什么这些做TRT（睾酮替代治疗）的跨性别娘们都这德行？笑死，这解释了黑格塞斯（Hegseth）的很多问题。特朗普身边的人里真有80%其实是伪装的跨性别者我都不会惊讶。

What? You're trying to tell me the administration that's taken all of their decisions based on vibes and a seemingly childish understanding of the world is full of shit on this one aswell?

什么？你是想告诉我，那个做决定全靠“直觉感觉”和对世界有着明显幼稚理解的管理层，这次也充满了屎气吗？

the SWG(secret world government) has created a derivative of Bisphenols to reduce the testosterone in men worldwide.

隐秘世界政府（SWG）创造了一种双酚的衍生物，用来降低全球男性的睾酮水平。

these chemicals are released into water supplies and through airplane contrails.

这些化学物质被释放到供水系统中，并通过飞机尾迹云散布。

capitalists finally realized that their system would collapse and eat itself, so reduce the population not consumption

资本家终于意识到他们的系统会崩溃并自我吞噬，所以决定减少人口而非减少消费

these controllers don't want more people they just want more control over the people that exist now

这些控制者不想增加人口，他们只想加强对现有人员的控制

The ultra Rich know about this, and are taking pills to counteract the effects and obviously they don't drink the water.

超级富豪们知道这件事，他们在服用药物来抵消这些影响，显然他们也不喝那些水。

MAGA politicians have not been let in on the conspiracy

MAGA政客们并没有被纳入这场阴谋

>>1524414

>he'll start drafting blonde haired blue eyed kids to go die on your behalf instead.

>他迟早会开始征召金发碧眼的孩子替你去死。

No, esl shill is already a fat brown with no prospects

不了，非母语者托儿已经是个没前途的胖棕色人种了

They just need to get into America so they can get free gender affirming treatment

他们只需要混进美国，就能获得免费的性别肯定治疗

>>1524414

You know what? Maybe he is. Maybe he sees value in it because of lived experience and not whatever monstrous horseshit your insane little brain, like an AP reported, attributes to your opposition as always having the worst intentions.

你知道吗？也许他确实有。也许他从中看到了价值，因为他有生活经验，而不是像美联社报道那样，把你那疯狂的小脑瓜里那种认为你的对立面总是怀有最恶劣意图的怪物般狗屎。

>>1524455

God you're esl

天哪，你真是个英语渣子

>>1524455

>lived experience

>生活经验

Kegbreath being a troon makes sense

黑格塞斯是个跨性别娘们这就合理了

no wonder they're an alcoholic

难怪他是个酒鬼

>>1524455

This isn't about his intentions. His intentions are to help the military by injecting them with a hormone that makes you develop male sex traits and regulates hormone activity. Taking him at his word, his intentions are good, he's just a fucking moron who doesn't understand medical science, so it objectively will not have the outcome he wants, (already gave an example of how that could go disasterously wrong you won't address), meaning his intentions are irrelevant.

这跟他的意图没关系。他的意图是通过给军方注射一种能促使男性第二性征发育并调节激素活性的激素来帮军方，姑且算他的意图是好的，但他就是个他妈的蠢货，根本不懂医学，所以客观上根本不会达到他想要的效果，（我之前已经给了可能会灾难性出错的例子，但你没回应），所以他的意图无关紧要。

I don't know how you walked away with me attacking his intentions from that, guess you thought that was the best way to deflect. You must really struggle with reading comprehension.

我不知道你怎么能得出我在攻击他意图的结论，我猜你觉得这是最好的转移话题的方式。你的阅读理解能力真的很成问题。

>>1524467

>Doesn't understand medical science

>不懂医学

I didn't know he'd be the prescribing doctor.

我没想到他会是开处方的医生。

Perhaps you're simply looking for shit to rage over?

也许你只是在找茬发泄怒火？

>>1524479

there's some foreign retard on this board who pretends to rage about trannys all the time to disguise a pretty obvious fetish

这个版上有个外国脑残，总是假装对跨性别者暴怒，以此掩盖自己那个相当明显的恋跨癖好

just don't engage with them

别跟他们互动

>>1524480

You're probably a troon, and I purposely ignored that refucktardo's horseshit.

你肯定是跨儿，我故意无视那个傻逼的胡扯。

>>1524484

the world must be so confusing for you when you're off your meds like this

当你像这样停药时，这个世界对你来说一定很混乱吧

Gotta love that the leader of one of the largest and most well funded militaries in the world has a Joe Rogan podcast listener levels of understanding of everything

真搞笑，世界上最庞大、资金最充足军队的领导人，对一切的理解水平也就跟乔·罗根播客听众差不多

>>1524479

Well, considering the doctors are all telling him he's a fuckwit, maybe you're right, maybe he's just an incompetent imbecile wasting everyone's time with a nothing burger and providing optional gender affirming care to our cis male troops.

好吧，考虑到所有医生都告诉他是个傻逼，也许你是对的，也许他只是个无能的白痴，浪费大家时间搞个没卵用的玩意儿，还给我们顺性别男性士兵提供可选的性别确认护理。

So um...that's... b-better? I love when people at the highest level of government leading the former most powerful fighting force in world history are completely retarded.

所以呃……这样……好点了吗？我最喜欢看到政府最高层、曾领导史上最强战斗力量的人完全脑残。

>>1524546

>5 out of 6 doctors on the AP's speed dial

>AP急救通讯录里的6位医生里有5位

Fake ass survey.

假的调查。

>>1524598

Are you saying most doctors wouldn't question the War Department's testosterone quackery?

你是说大多数医生不会质疑战争部的睾酮疗法吗？

>>1524646

don't bully esl shill, just let them support their gender affirming tranny medicine like they like

别欺负那个英语不好的水军，让他们像自己喜欢的那样支持他们的性别确认跨儿药物算了

>>1524646

Well, most doctors didn't question the trannies' quackery, I'm not sure why they'd start questioning now.

好吧，大多数医生以前也没质疑过跨儿们的伪科学，我不明白为什么他们现在要开始质疑。

>>1524651

>I'm not sure why they'd start questioning now.

>我不明白为什么他们现在要开始质疑。

You're just going to admit that the right was lying about trannys this whole time like that?

你就要这样承认共和党人一直以来都在跨儿问题上撒谎了？

>>1524652

Its the trannies that were lying, but thankfully lying isn't a crime, so doctors can afford to jump in on that grift as long as government is willing to support it. Mutilating people for any reason, chemically or physically, should never be allowed under any administration no matter what people want. The faggots are just going to have to figure out a way to cope.

是跨儿们在撒谎，但幸运的是撒谎不犯法，所以只要政府愿意支持，医生们就能挤进这场骗局分一杯羹。无论人们想要什么，无论出于何种原因，化学或物理上的 mutilating（致残/毁损）都应该在任何政府下被禁止。那些基佬只能自己想办法适应。

>>1524655

>The faggots are just going to have to figure out a way to cope.

>那些基佬只能自己想办法适应。

Fuck off shill, you're talking about American Warriors

滚蛋，水军，你谈论的是美国战士

Go live in Iran if you want to hate America

如果你想恨美国，就去伊朗住吧

>>1524651

>I'm hate filled bigot against the advice of the entire human body of medical knowledge. I somehow am aware of this, but don't see the issue.

>我明明违背了全人类医学知识的建议，却还是个充满仇恨的偏执狂。我 somehow 意识到了这一点，但并没觉得有什么问题。

It should be legal to kill people as dumb as this.

这种蠢货就该被合法处死。

>>1524672

>against the advice

>违背建议

Doctors like people like (You) because you need constant post-op care to maintain your transition, which means more money for them.

医生喜欢（你）这种人，因为你术后需要长期护理来维持过渡期，这就意味着能给他们带来更多收入。

Enjoy your infertility you dumb faggot. You could've just been gay but instead you pretended to be an anime character in the vain hope that people would accept you.

享受你的不育吧，你这个蠢gay。你本来可以只是个gay，却偏偏装成动漫角色，妄图以此获得他人的接纳。

>>1524678

No, this is Kegbreath doing this to the US military

不，是Kegbreath在拿美军开涮

This isn't your last night on grindr

这可不是你在Grindr上的最后一晚

You're the only tranny in this thread

你是这个帖子里唯一的跨儿

>>1524678

>I assume everyone else is a faggot because I'm a faggot. I assume faggots are insufferable because I'm an insufferable faggot.

>我假设别人都是gay，因为我自己就是gay。我假设gay都是让人受不了的，因为我自己就是个让人受不了的gay。

Not everybody who supports trans people are trans or gay, some of us just listen to literally every major medical organization in the world and accept the entire body of human medical knowledge claiming Gender affirming care has value and saves lives.

不是所有支持跨性别的人都是跨儿或gay，有些人只是听了全世界各大主要医学机构的建议，接受全人类医学知识所宣称的：性别肯定护理具有价值且能挽救生命。

If anyone's a faggot it's you. Normal people aren't obsessed with other people's genitals like this. If you hate gay people so much, you should contribute to their high suicide rate and kill yourself.

如果真要说谁是gay，那才是你这种人。正常人不会像这样对别人的生殖器如此痴迷。如果你这么恨gay，那你就该为它们的高自杀率添砖加瓦，然后自杀吧。

>>1524386

This is what happens when you let a bunch of people who think the government should be run like a WWE show.

这就是让一群认为政府应该像WWE（世界摔角娱乐）那样运作的人掌权后的结果。

>>1524723

>“Castrating myself and molding my genitalia into a worthless mockery of the real thing is fine because (insert ‘expert’ name here) said so!”

>“我自己把自己阉了，并把生殖器塑造成真货的废物赝品，这没问题，因为（某某‘专家’）是这么说的！”

Only dumb faggots are stupid enough to believe this kind of shit. If they're such experts, they why can't the convince you on the merit of their great ideas instead of the title of being an expert?

只有蠢gay才会相信这种鬼话。如果他们真是专家，那为什么不能靠他们伟大理念本身的说服力来说服你，而不是靠“专家”这个头衔？

Don’t worry guys, Hesgeth is going all hands on this issue

大家别担心，Hesgeth正在全力应对这个问题

https://thehardtimes.net/breaking/hegseth-to-personally-test-erection-strength-of-each-soldier/

>>1524773

They did dipshit. Now if the ideas are bogus, why can't you find even one medical expert that says so, and if you aren't a stupid faggot, why are you so dumb and obsessed with other people's genitals?

他们确实这么干了，你这个蠢货。如果这些理念都是骗人的，那你为什么连一个持相反意见的医学专家都找不出来？如果你不是个蠢gay，那你为什么还这么蠢，对别人的生殖器如此痴迷？