https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5938941-obama-trump-obsession-podcast/
Former President Obama on Wednesday said he thinks President Trump has an “obsession” with him, existing in a “suite in his head.”
前总统奥巴马周三表示，他认为特朗普对他有着“痴迷”，这种痴迷存在于“他脑子里的一套房”中。
“All the Smoke” podcast co-host and former NBA player Matt Barnes spoke with Obama about Trump being “very fascinated with you and your family,” but did not name the 47th president. He praised Obama for meeting Trump’s “negativity and racism with class” before he asked if Obama ever wants to “cuss his a– out sometimes?”
《All the Smoke》播客联合主持兼前NBA球员马特·巴恩斯与奥巴马讨论了特朗普对奥巴马及其家人的“极度迷恋”，但未提及这位第47任总统的名字。他称赞奥巴马在面对特朗普的“敌意和种族主义”时保持了风度，随后问奥巴马是否有时也想“把他那家伙骂个狗血淋头”？
“The thing about it is –– look, you’ve got to ask him what it is ––” Obama said before Barnes added, “The obsession.”
“问题是——听着，你得问他那到底是什么——”奥巴马说道，接着巴恩斯补充说：“是痴迷。”
“The obsession,” Obama repeated. “I obviously have a room in his head, a suite in his head.”
“这种痴迷，”奥巴马重复道，“我显然在他脑子里有一间房，一整套房子。” 前总统后来补充说，在他担任总统期间，想着前总统乔治·W·布什是“我最没时间……去担心的事情。”
The former president later added that during his presidency, thinking about former President George W. Bush was “the last thing I had time to… worry about.”
这位前总统后来补充说，在任职期间，想着前总统乔治·W·布什是“我最后有空去……担心”的事情。
“They’re gone,” the former president continued, referring to his predecessors. “I’ve got work to do. The idea that I’d be worrying about somebody who came before and me trying to measure like, ‘what’s he done today?’ Constantly worrying about that is a strange thing to me. It shows me somebody who is not focused on the American people and the job they’re supposed to do.”
“他们都已经走了，”前总统继续说道，指的是他的前任们，“我有自己的工作要做。我担心我之前的人，试图衡量‘他今天做了什么？’并为此不断担忧，在我看来是件很奇怪的事。这说明他并没有把注意力放在美国人民和他们应该做的事情上。”
Obama later added that Trump is a different person when they are alone together compared to when Trump faces the public.
奥巴马后来补充说，特朗普在两人独处时与在公众面前表现不同。
“The other thing I believe in, and part of what we try to teach in our leadership training, is I believe in face-to-face,” he said. “I believe in conversation. So if this — whoever you were talking about — was in front of me, which has happened a couple times, he don’t talk like that because he knows better. And I think there is a — that filter of the phone creates a situation both where people just say kind of crazy stuff that they would never say to your face with no consequences.”
“还有我相信的一点，也是我们领导力培训中试图教导的一部分，我相信面对面的交流，”他说，“我相信对话。所以如果——不管你说的那个人是谁——就在我面前，这种情况发生过几次，他那时不会那样说话，因为他知道分寸。而且我认为那种通过手机进行的对话会产生一种情境，让人们会说出一些当面绝不敢说、且无需承担后果的疯话。”
