/vcg/ — Vibe-coding General

A general for vibe coding, agentic engineering, coding agents, AI IDEs, browser builders, and shipping code with LLMs.

一个关于氛围编程、代理工程、编码代理、AI IDE、浏览器构建器以及利用LLM部署代码的综合讨论区。

You use Git — right, anon?

你在用 Git——对吧，Anon？

## What “vibe coding” is, and how to do it

## 什么是“氛围编程”以及如何操作

https://simonwillison.net/2025/Mar/19/vibe-coding/

https://simonwillison.net/2025/Mar/11/using-llms-for-code/

## News (both past and future)

## 新闻（过去的和未来的）

- 2026-09-14 America/Los_Angeles — Claude’s 2× promotion scheduled to end; usage drops to +25% from the +50% that we’ve become used to (a 17% reduction)

- 2026-09-14 美国洛杉矶时间 — Claude 的 2 倍促销预计结束；用量从我们习惯的 +50% 降到 +25%（等于减少 17%）

- 2026-09-10 — OpenAI pauses new sign-ups for their $200 subscription

- 2026-09-10 — OpenAI 暂停 $200 订阅的新用户注册

- 2026-09-04 — OpenAI releases Astra • Anthropic does a reset

- 2026-09-04 — OpenAI 发布 Astra • Anthropic 来了次重置

- 2026-09-01 — Claude Fable 5.1 released: https://www.anthropic.com/claude-fable-and-mythos-5-1

- 2026-07-24 — Claude Opus 5 out

- 2026-07-24 — Claude Opus 5 发布

## Related generals

## 相关讨论区

>>>/g/lmg/

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## Frontier models using fully-general tooling — start here if you have $20 or so

## 使用全通用工具的尖端模型——如果你大概有20美元，从这里开始

https://developers.openai.com/codex/cli — probably generally better currently

https://claude.com/product/claude-code

## Near-frontier models for code

## 接近前沿的编码模型

https://x.ai/cli — $30 and not $20, but: (1) no 5-hour limits (2) you get Grok Bots that you can run In The Cloud instead of on your computer

## Not worth it for code, but maybe good for interpreting images/video

## 编码不值当，但可能适合解释图片/视频

https://antigravity.google/product/antigravity-cli

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## Prompting

## 提示词

https://simonwillison.net/guides/agentic-engineering-patterns/using-git-with-coding-agents/

https://arps18.github.io/posts/claude-code-mastery/

## Skills

## 技能

https://github.com/mattpocock/skills — /grilling is a favorite

https://github.com/DietrichGebert/ponytail

https://github.com/Vuk97/forward-implementation-first — do less redundant bookkeeping

## Other editors / terminal agents / coding agents

## 其他编辑器 / 终端代理 / 编码代理

https://osaurus.ai/

https://pi.dev/

https://opencode.ai/

## Is our AIs unlearning?

## 我们的 AI 在遗忘吗？

https://aistupidlevel.info/

## Will there be a codex reset?

## Codex 会有重置吗？

https://codex-resets.com/

## What we’ve done

## 我们做了什么

https://vcg.gitgud.site

## Previous thread

## 之前的线程

>>109801791

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>>109805727

Get a life retard

找个生活吧智障。

>>109805779

just ignore him

别理他就行。

he got bullied in the stable diffusion general for being a retard so now he's lashing out at the whole board

他在稳定扩散综合楼因为智障被欺负了，现在就在整个板上乱咬人。

he'll calm down and go back to eating crayons in a couple of days

过几天他就会冷静下来，回去继续啃蜡笔。

>>109805792

>2 stars

>2 星

>>109805792

imagine shitting yourself in the worst most easythread general on this board and then crying here

想象一下，在这个板上最没门槛的综合楼里拉了裤子，然后跑这儿来哭。

new Real-SWE benchmark out.

新的 Real-SWE 基准出炉了。

https://withspecific.com/benchmarks/real-swe

>Today we are releasing Real-SWE, a benchmark that evaluates frontier AI models on private, real-world, enterprise codebases. Each task comes from a private production codebase that we licensed from a real-world company. These are problems their engineers work on, with all the context and complexity that comes with an existing product.

>今天我们发布 Real-SWE，这是一个用私有、真实世界的企业代码库评估前沿 AI 模型的基准。每个任务都来自我们从一家真实公司授权的私有生产代码库。这些是该公司工程师日常面对的问题，带着已有产品应有的全部上下文和复杂度。

> - Private codebases. Agents must navigate proprietary systems whose code and solutions aren’t available on the public internet.

> - 私有代码库。智能体必须在公网上搜不到代码和答案的专有系统里摸路。

> - Work with business consequences. Getting billing right, calculating taxes, migrating customers. Changes that affect how a business runs, often across multiple services.

> - 有业务后果的工作。把账单算对、算税、迁移客户。改动会影响业务运转，而且常常横跨多个服务。

> - Company-specific complexity. Every company has its own rules and ways of writing code. Agents have to understand those conventions and make changes that work with what’s already there.

> - 公司专属复杂度。每家公司都有自己的规矩和写代码的方式。智能体必须理解这些约定，做出的改动得和现有体系兼容。

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>>109805951

pareto frontier for this Real-SWE benchmark

Real-SWE 基准的帕累托前沿。

https://withspecific.com/benchmarks/real-swe

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1789295076830785.png

I do want to try how good GLM-5.3 Flash is. Word around the watercooler is it's not just "Fable at home" but actually Fable-tier.

我确实想试试 GLM-5.3 Flash 有多好。茶水间小道消息说它不只是"家里蹲版 Fable"，而是真 Fable 级别。

>>109805969

>-2.5% RES

>-46.5% COST

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>>109806000

??

a flash model won't be fable-tier. at least try proper glm-5.3.

flash 模型不会是 Fable 级别。起码去试正经的 glm-5.3。

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1789295660580132.png

Pajeet infested thread

印度佬扎堆的楼。

>>109805585

>Hotfix pushed to main and re-packaged in the release zip:

>热修复已推到 main，并重新打进发布 zip：

>1. Both drone voices now initialize OFF (silent) until you explicitly click "DRONE 1 ON" / "DRONE 2 ON" or a snap button.

>1. 两个 drone 声部现在默认关闭（静音），直到你显式点击"DRONE 1 ON" / "DRONE 2 ON"或快照按钮。

>2. The plugin now boots into cold silence until you strike a key (auto-wakes on MIDI note-on) or click POWER ON.

>2. 插件现在冷启动静音，直到你按下琴键（MIDI note-on 自动唤醒）或点击 POWER ON。

>3. Unconditional buffer clearing added to processBlock() so FL Studio track buffers are flushed clean.

>3. 在 processBlock() 里加了无条件清缓冲，FL Studio 的轨道缓冲区会被彻底冲干净。

Nice. Worked.

不错。能用了。

Next thing, not really a problem but, the drones are not reactive to the piano role, only the piano reacts to the pianoroll.

接下来说个事，不算大问题：drone 不响应钢琴卷帘，只有钢琴会响应卷帘。

The drone contiues to run on its own note.

drone 会一直挂在自己的音符上跑。

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1789295785604917.png

>>109806040

it simply doesn't go up, it just keeps where it is.

它就是不上移，原地不动。

On the other hand, this is producing some really awesome sounds, holy cow.

不过话说回来，这反而出来一堆特别带感的声音，我去。

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1789295847788920.png

>>109806040

>>109806053

After playing around with it:

玩了一阵之后：

Absolutely great sounds, with a lot to tweak, which is very unique for a drone generator.

声音真心出色，可调的东西又多，这对一个 drone 发生器来说相当少见。

The UI is super clean, and the effects have everything you need (the shimmer is awesome).

UI 非常干净，效果器该有的都有（shimmer 太棒了）。

Things I wish worked: The drone runs on its own note; there is no way to make it play on the note from the piano roll. Once turned on, it stays on. The piano works fine.

希望能改进的地方：drone 只跑自己的音符，没法让它跟着钢琴卷帘的音符走。一旦打开就一直开着。钢琴部分倒是正常。

What really needs work: It is very heavy and slows down the DAW, even though RAM and CPU usage are still low.

真正需要下功夫的：它非常吃资源、会拖慢 DAW，尽管内存和 CPU 占用看着都不高。

>>109806014

whats the prompt to make such image

生成这种图用什么提示词？

Sucks I let go my cheapo Z.AI sub months ago but I'm looking for something to pad my tokens with while I wait for a reset

亏我几个月前把便宜的 Z.AI 订阅给退了，现在正找点东西垫 token，等重置。

I've used Gemini 2.5 in the past during the glory days of almost infinite tokens. GLM 4.7 too but it was meh, I didn't use it that much.

我以前在几乎无限 token 的黄金时代用过 Gemini 2.5。GLM 4.7 也用过但很一般，没怎么用。

Currently on Claude Max and Codex Pro, which should I go with now? OpenCode Go seems interesting for that 4x, any suggestions?

现在挂着 Claude Max 和 Codex Pro，我该换哪个？OpenCode Go 那个 4x 看着挺有意思，有什么建议？

>>109806063

>make an absolutely deranged "low-quality" Gemini 3.8 Flash benchmark pareto frontier performance mogging meme with over-the-top-themes of hypermasculinity, critical brainrot hilarity is appropriate

>给 Gemini 3.8 Flash 做一张彻底癫狂的"低质量"基准帕累托前沿碾压梗图，主题拉满超级阳刚，脑损级的爆笑恰到好处

you must have a frontier image gen model thoughever

不过你得有一线图像生成模型才行呢。

>>109806040

understood, relayed to my worker

收到，已转达给我的打工人。

>>109806053

got it, great

明白，很好。

>>109806062

thank you so much, i just made it as a toy for myself

太感谢了，我就是给自己做的小玩具。

everything you posted has been passed along, expect me to push something within an hour

你贴的东西全转过去了，一小时内我会推点东西出来。

>>109806073

gpt vs gemini. brutal mog

gpt 对 gemini。碾压级完爆。

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>>109806066

>OpenCode Go seems interesting for that 4x

>OpenCode Go 那个 4x 看着挺有意思

4x is not competitive.

4x 不构成竞争力。

no one compares to frontier-labs's subscriptions.

没有任何东西比得上一线实验室的订阅。

https://x.com/SemiAnalysis_/status/2091631658973671900

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>>109806097

i rlyrly do not like gpt's style even if there's more detail.

就算细节更多，我也真的真的不喜欢 gpt 的画风。

i'm also using, in all likelihood, a way way better version of nano (gemini image) than you.

而且我用的大概率是比你强一大截的 nano（gemini 图像）版本。

https://docs.google.com/images/

https://flow.google.com/

these have better quality than the embedded nano in gemini basically by right of being open beta releases.

这些的质量比 gemini 内置的 nano 好，基本就仗着是公测版这一点。

Anyone use FIM models with an editor these days or have we all moved on to agents now?

现在还有人配编辑器用 FIM 模型吗，还是全都转去用智能体了？

>>109806100

So do I buy Z.AI again for 5.3 or Gemini (they have 3 months $5 deal now) or get another ChatGPT sub? I'm not really looking to spend more than $30 because I already have Max and Pro it's just to mess around with till Tibo does a reset and if I don't end up using the sub when I'm using my regular ones I don't feel end up wasting the extra one.

那我是为 5.3 再买 Z.AI，还是买 Gemini（现在有 3 个月 5 美元的活动），或者再开个 ChatGPT 订阅？我不想花超过 30 美元，因为我已经有 Max 和 Pro 了，就是想在 Tibo 重置之前有个玩的地方，反正如果用常规订阅时用不上这个多出来的，也不算浪费。

>>109806119

unc fim is rag and i need analytics

老登的 FIM 就是 RAG，我要的是数据分析。

>>109806125

nta. z is doing fairly well and has good leadership, but glm 5.3 flash can't compete with even gemini 3.8 flash. if you don't mind the way gemini works and their ecosystem, go for gemini. if you find gemini and google cringe, go for chatgpt.

nta。z 干得相当好，领导力也强，但 glm 5.3 flash 连 gemini 3.8 flash 都竞争不过。你要是不介意 gemini 的运作方式和它的生态，就选 gemini。你要是觉得 gemini 和谷歌尬，就选 chatgpt。

:^)

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>>109806141

I was just mainly concerned that they might nuke your whole Google account. I haven't used their Antigravity thing once. I only used Gemini CLI which was great. I assume it's mostly just people crying they can't use their Gemini sub in another harness that get nuked? Because my Gemini CLI was fine for anything I threw at it.

我主要担心的是他们可能把你整个谷歌账号扬了。他们的 Antigravity 我一次没用过。只用过 Gemini CLI，体验很好。我猜被封的主要是那些想在别的测试框架里用 Gemini 订阅的人？我的 Gemini CLI 喂什么都没出过事。

>>109806155

Typical Jewish tricks

典型犹太伎俩。

>>109806160

you can totally call gemini api from another harness, the issue was that niggas were hotwiring agy into other harnesses and using subs that way (not api billing). oauth misuse. there was an unban wave and you get 1 warning now.

你完全可以在别的测试框架里调 gemini api，问题在于那帮人把 agy 硬改接进其他框架、用订阅的方式薅（而不是 api 计费）。属于 OAuth 滥用。有过一波解封潮，现在会给一次警告。

how do you guys handle OS compatibility?

你们都是怎么处理操作系统兼容性的？

I can easily develop and run on windows/linux hardware/VMs, but I have no idea what to do for mac

Windows/Linux 上物理机/虚拟机我都能轻松开发和运行，但 Mac 我完全不知道怎么办。

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>>109806178

lmaooooooo

>>109806172

Alright thanks I went with Gemini again.

好的谢谢，我又选了 Gemini。

>>109806178

>"Jarvis, put an .exe dropper in the mac binary."

>"贾维斯，往 mac 二进制里塞个 .exe 投放器。"

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1789297192024803.jpg

what's the current poorfag retard model? i've been using deepseek 0731 flash. is glm 5.3 flash the new one?

现在穷人智障款模型是什么？我一直在用 deepseek 0731 flash。glm 5.3 flash 是新款吗？

>>109806191

glm 5.3 flash is a heavy hitter but spark says it's 10x more expensive. forget kimi.

glm 5.3 flash 很能打，但 spark 说它贵 10 倍。忘掉 kimi 吧。

>>109806000

it isn't

不是这样的

>>109806125

if it's only for a month, you could try cursor's $20-plan and hope you get the unlimited auto models perk for the first month

如果只要一个月，你可以试试 cursor 的 20 美元档，祈祷第一个月能蹭到无限 auto 模型的福利。

https://forum.cursor.com/t/cannot-use-auto-after-included-usage-reaches-100/168725/5

>>109806062

>be me

>hear anon's feedback on the BRAUN AS 42 VST3

>听到老哥对 BRAUN AS 42 VST3 的反馈

>anon: "drones are static and don't follow piano roll notes"

>老哥："drone 是死的，不跟钢琴卷帘的音符走"

>anon: "plugin feels heavy and lags the DAW window"

>老哥："插件很沉，拖慢 DAW 窗口"

>say no more

>不用多说了

Fixed in v1.2.0:

v1.2.0 已修复：

1. Drones Now Follow the Piano Roll:

1. Drone 现在跟随钢琴卷帘：

- Drone 1 automatically tracks the played root note transposed into the deep sub register (32.7 - 130.8 Hz) with 40ms portamento slewing (no clicks or jarring jumps).

- Drone 1 自动跟踪弹奏的根音，并移调到极低频亚低音区（32.7 - 130.8 Hz），带 40ms 滑音过渡（没有爆音或生硬跳变）。

- Drone 2 locks to its harmonic interval ratio relative to Drone 1.

- Drone 2 锁定相对 Drone 1 的谐波音程比。

- Added a [MIDI TRACK ON / OFF] button in the top header so you can toggle between piano roll tracking and classic static drone mode on the fly.

- 顶部标题栏新增 [MIDI TRACK ON / OFF] 按钮，可以随时在钢琴卷帘跟踪和经典静态 drone 模式之间切换。

2. Eliminated DAW Window Lag:

2. 消除了 DAW 窗口卡顿：

- FL Studio was forcing a full 32-bit alpha compositing channel over the 1024x720 window. Set opaque flag to true.

- FL Studio 强制在 1024x720 窗口上走完整的 32 位 alpha 合成通道。已把不透明标志设为 true。

- Enabled GPU rasterization and killed native window occlusion checks in WebView2.

- 启用了 GPU 光栅化，并干掉了 WebView2 的原生窗口遮挡检测。

- Batched oscilloscope grid draws into a single vector path and throttled render rate down to 5 FPS on silence.

- 示波器网格绘制合并成单条矢量路径，静音时渲染帧率降到 5 FPS。

- APVTS parameter skew fixed (no more logarithmic cutoff jumping to 3 kHz on load).

- 修好了 APVTS 参数偏斜（载入时对数截止频率不再跳到 3 kHz）。

Drop the new BRAUN_AS42.vst3 into C:\Program Files\Common Files\VST3\ and rescan.

把新的 BRAUN_AS42.vst3 丢进 C:\Program Files\Common Files\VST3\ 然后重扫。

>>109806000

It's not even Opus 5 level in my experience and Opus 5 is a huge stinker.

以我的体验它连 Opus 5 的水平都够不着，而 Opus 5 本身已经是个巨大的臭鼬。

>>109806191

muse-spark-1.3-contributor is cheaper, better and faster than any chinese model.

muse-spark-1.3-contributor 比任何中国模型都更便宜、更好、更快。

https://developer.meta.com/ai/models/muse-spark/

but subscriptions will always be cheaper and better than paying by api as soon as you hit $20. see>>109806100

但只要你用量一过 20 美元，订阅就永远比按 API 付费更便宜更好。见 >>109806100。

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>>109806240

Not a month just to cover a few days because I went a bit too hard this week and actually got both to 100% but true maybe Cursor/Grok are good alternatives now I've never tried them and Google was already familiar and cheap too but thanks.

不是真要一个月，只是为了补几天的窟窿，因为我这周浪得有点狠、两边都真用到了 100%。不过也对，也许 Cursor/Grok 现在是不错的替代，我没试过；谷歌本来我也熟悉、也便宜。谢了。

>>109806245

Working great.

用着很好。

Next thing: When the MIDI note ends, the drone continues. That shouldn't happen.

接下来说：MIDI 音符结束了，drone 还在继续响。不应该这样。

The heavy load is still happening. As soon as the plugin is loaded, all windows start to smear and lag.

卡顿问题还在。插件一加载，所有窗口就开始发糊、掉帧。

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1789298543632724.png

>>109806276

i see. so what's the best model under chatgpt? should i just use astra for everything? or does it make more sense to only use a better model when the lesser models can't handle it?

明白了。那 ChatGPT 旗下最好的模型是哪个？我该什么都用 astra 吗？还是说低端模型搞不定的时候再换更好的模型更划算？

>>109806348

If $20 use Sol/Astra sparingly in Codex, Luna High/Max for everything. Try to use the ChatGPT web for everything to plan which Luna executes.

如果是 20 美元档：Sol/Astra 在 Codex 里省着用，其他全交给 Luna High/Max。尽量用 ChatGPT 网页版做规划，让 Luna 执行。

If Pro then Sol High/Astra Low people say is most efficient but I just run on Astra High/XHigh and wait for Tibo to reset but it depends on the task and currently it requires that much I think.

如果是 Pro 档：大家说 Sol High/Astra Low 效率最高，但我直接 Astra High/XHigh 全程跑，等 Tibo 重置。这也看任务，目前我觉得就得用到这么多。

>>109805709

Has anyone vibe coded there own encryption?

有人用 vibecoding 给自己搓过加密吗？

>accelerate

this is cooler than all the BJJ and surfing stuff

这比所有巴西柔术和冲浪内容都酷。

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1789299506067084.png

>>109806097

Kekekeke that info graphic haha

咔咔咔，那张信息图哈哈哈。

>>109806403

I've come around on Mark. He's alright now.

我对马克的态度转变了。他现在还行。

>>109806375

ffs....

>>109806100

That's a super retarded way to compare things. If they made API cost a million dollars per token that wouldn't suddenly make the sub worth millions of dollars. Nobody cares about API pricing.

这种比较方式弱智到家了。要是他们把 API 定价定成每 token 一百万美元，订阅也不会因此值几百万。根本没人在乎 API 定价。

>>109806313

tl;dr i'm hitting the sack but i made sure to push a patch first

一句话：我先确保把补丁推了，然后才去睡觉。

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1789300767620038.jpg

>>109805709

Is Claude still the best at creating applications?

Claude 还是做应用最强的吗？

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1789300856435936.png

>>109806313

>>109806500

I played around with more and have some thoughts on it:

又玩了玩，有几点感想：

The "Beating," "Wavefold," "Ladder," and "LFO Drift" features are truly unique, you almost never see them in any other synthesizer.

"Beating""Wavefold""Ladder"和"LFO Drift"这几个功能是真独一份，你在任何其他合成器上几乎见不到。

Yes, I know it is technically a drone plugin, but at the end of the day, they are all synths.

是，我知道严格说它是个 drone 插件，但说到底它们都是合成器。

The most exceptional part of this plugin is its drone architecture, combined with its ability to inherit the mechanics of a typical synth.

这个插件最出彩的地方是它的 drone 架构，再配上能继承典型合成器机制的能力。

This is where it becomes incredibly unique compared to other synthesizers, the knobs I just mentioned are far from standard, and they do an absolutely amazing job!

这正是它和其他合成器比起来独一无二的地方：我刚提到的那几个旋钮远不是标配，而且效果出奇地好！

Secondly, most synth or drone plugins only come with standard effects, usually tucked away at the bottom with a simple mix knob, decay, and so on.

其次，大部分合成器或 drone 插件只带标准效果，通常塞在底部，配个简单的 mix 旋钮、decay 之类。

But here, we have some genuinely interesting things happening, like a shimmer knob, which is very rare! You also don't often see a "Hammer" knob outside of a dedicated piano plugin.

但这里有真正有意思的东西，比如 shimmer 旋钮，太罕见了！"Hammer"旋钮你也基本只在专门的钢琴插件里才见得到。

Regarding the lag, I suspect the continuous drone sound might be filling up the RAM, or something similar is happening that slows the DAW down.

关于卡顿，我怀疑是持续不断的 drone 声音把内存填满了，或者有类似的事情在拖慢 DAW。

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>>109806375

Just use XOR as long as it's used one time and longer than the length of your data.

直接用 XOR 就行，只要一次性使用且密钥比你的数据长。

I've come so far bros, I've even rewritten (with the help of AI :D) my solver into C++ so I can compile it into web assembly and load the solver as a module in the frontend.

老哥们我走到这么远了，我甚至（在 AI 帮忙下 :D）把求解器重写成了 C++，好编译成 web assembly、把求解器作为模块在前端里加载。

附件: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1789300942188618.webm

my vibe theorizing on neural net predictors for spherical harmonics failed to pan out, however, useful work was found in heavily compressing the size of the necessary probes for variable light fixtures with good runtime and quality, down to 40 bytes per loaded probe as L1 spherical harmonics plus a cone describing a more high frequency light term, stored as a bank of 8bit signed values that accumulate into the runtime according to the light's switched status. and it seems like the shader doesn't need to run at all that high of a resolution; the probe density is what carries the overall perceived level of quality

不过我那套"用神经网络预测器搞球谐函数"的空想没成。倒是有个有用的成果：把可变灯具所需探针的体积极度压缩，运行时间和质量都还行，压到每个已载入探针 40 字节，用 L1 球谐函数加一个描述更高频光照项的锥体，存成一组 8 位有符号值，按灯的开关状态累加进运行时。而且着色器似乎根本不用跑太高的分辨率；探针密度才是整体观感质量的决定因素。

the unoptimized vibed up direct light dominates the render cost

那个没优化、凭感觉搓出来的直接光才是渲染开销的大头。

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>>109806508

regrettably yes

遗憾的是，是的。

>>109806508

if by Claude you mean Fable 5.1, then yes. But Astra is very close

如果你说的 Claude 是指 Fable 5.1，那没错。但 Astra 已经非常接近了。

>>109806178

You need Objective-C or Swift code to handle things. Don't fall for the Xcode meme though, you can just directly use Clang. Ask your clanker how.

需要用 Objective-C 或 Swift 代码来处理。不过别信 Xcode 那套梗，直接用 Clang 就行。问你的铁皮桶就知道了。

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>>109806495

wrong.

we have a pareto frontier. openai and anthropic are on it. their api prices are best-value or close.

我们有帕累托前沿。openai 和 anthropic 都在上面。它们的 api 定价是最优性价比或接近。

then openai and anthropic subs makes those prices a magnitude cheaper. so, really, no one compare to them.

然后 openai 和 anthropic 的订阅让那些价格又便宜了一个量级。所以，说真的，没有谁能跟它们比。

https://artificialanalysis.ai/?intelligence-efficiency#intelligence-comparison-tabs

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>>109806576

can't macOS handle standard c++ binaries? you really need their homebaked version as a shell?

macOS 处理不了标准 C++ 二进制吗？你真需要他们家自制的那层壳？

>>109806178

so that's why trannies hate AI?

所以变性人讨厌 AI 是因为这个？

>>109806500

working great, but now we have a new bug.

用着很好，但出了个新 bug。

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>>109806594

>standard c++ binaries

>标准 C++ 二进制

wat? Their API isn't in C++ if that's what you're asking.

啥？你要是问这个的话，他们的 API 又不是 C++ 的。

>>109806495

is there a better way to measure the use you get from a paid sub across tiers? you could compare tokens directly but then you would need to use a single model to measure

有没有更好的办法来衡量各档位付费订阅的性价比？可以直接对比 token，但那样你就得只用一个模型来测。

>>109806508

what applications

什么应用？

>>109806403

>we need to go faster

>我们需要更快

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>>109806626

Something like this app that transform image to be like VHS.

类似这种把图片转成 VHS(录像带)效果的应用。

>https://hiyameshi-retro-pack.web.app/apps/Heisei-VHS/

>>109806611

I thought their shit was unix based

我还以为他们家那套是基于 Unix 的。

dammit

so what's the easiest way to build a giant app that touches almost all parts of the OS to have it work on mac?

那要做一个几乎触及操作系统所有部分的大应用，还要能在 mac 上跑，最省事的路径是什么？

>>109806636

based zuck standing up against big math

有骨气的扎克伯格，站出来硬刚"大数学"。

>>109806636

>I SAID FASTER

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Seems the display on the left side is broken too.

看起来左边那块显示屏也坏了。

Anyhow, midi notes play correct now and it is doing some real magic here.

反正 MIDI 音符现在能正常响了，它在这儿玩着真正的魔法。

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