Someone asked so they HAD to give those details out, OK?!
有人问了所以他们不得不把这些细节交出去，行了吧？！
Revolut 泄露了你的脸、护照、驾照、电话号码……
Someone asked so they HAD to give those details out, OK?!
有人问了所以他们不得不把这些细节交出去，行了吧？！
>>109799079
We need to kill everyone involved.
我们得把所有相关的人都杀掉。
so I was right no to trust them. Why do people still do it? Just to make a couple shekels .
所以我当时不信他们是对的。为什么人们还在用？就为了赚几个谢克尔。
>>109799079
If the email was authenticated with DKIM you can't really blame Revolut. The attacker would have had to hack the government email server. That's the government's fault.
如果那封邮件带 DKIM 认证，还真不能全怪 Revolut。攻击者得先黑掉政府的邮件服务器。那是政府的锅。
If the email was authenticated with SPF it's not so clear. The attacker could spoof SPF by hacking any service on any server that's NATed to the same public IP address. No one should authenticate outgoing emails with SPF alone, and no one should trust any email authenticated with SPF alone.
如果邮件只带 SPF 认证，就不那么清楚了。攻击者可以通过黑掉任何 NAT 到同一公网 IP 的服务器上的服务来伪造 SPF。任何人都不该只用 SPF 认证外发邮件，任何人都不该信任只用 SPF 认证的邮件。
>>109799297
>If the email
>如果那封邮件
irrelevant
you do not give the glowies anything except for a warrant
除了搜查令，你什么都不该给联邦探员
i don’t even know what that is so i’m safe
我都不知道那是啥，所以我是安全的
>>109799297
That’s what I find crazy, one simple email and a bank gives out your face, Bitcoin transactions, phone number…
这就是让我抓狂的地方，一封简单邮件，银行就把你的脸、比特币交易、电话号码……都交出去
Why the hell would the government need your face ???
政府到底要你的脸干嘛？？？
>>109799079
>>no biometric data was involved or compromised
>>没有生物识别数据被涉及或泄露
>we just handed over all data used to generate biometric data
>我们只是把所有用于生成生物识别数据的原始数据全交了
lmao
>>109799297
revolut could have said "come back with a valid warrant" for every request, but lol they're too cheap to pay a lawyer to handle warrants
Revolut 本可以对每个请求都说「拿有效搜查令再来」，但哈哈他们穷到雇不起处理搜查令的律师
>>109799297
>>109799319
That's what's bonkers. Asking for a warrant/subpoena was standard practice for boring old phone companies. We always asked for a subpoena or warrant before we would release data, because "we verified their signing cert" will not hold up in court.
这就是离谱的地方。要搜查令/传票对无聊的老电话公司来说是标准操作。我们放数据前都先要传票或搜查令，因为「我们核实了对方签名证书」在法庭上站不住。
>>109799079
I only use it for every day spending
我只拿它付日常开销
>>109799079
>Someone asked so they HAD to give those details out, OK?!
>有人问了所以他们不得不把这些细节交出去，行了吧？！
Oh no. I used this to send money to many of my favourite EE prostitutes
糟了。我用它给很多我心爱的东欧妓女转账
>>109799079
>Today I will trust my money and identity with ex-soviet digital bankers in britain
>今天我要把钱和身份托付给英国的苏联解体数字银行家
>>109799079
for which country though?
是哪个国家要的？
>>109799079
why does an app have your passport
一个 App 凭什么存你的护照
>>109799079
I didn't receive this mail. These fuckers have been literally spamming mefor over a year to do a KYC selfie check so I can transfer money with debit cards. I was reading online and it has you read numbers and shit while looking at your camera fuck that.
我没收到这封邮件。这群货整整一年多都在骚扰我做 KYC 自拍核验，好让我能用借记卡转账。我网上查了，要对着摄像头读数字什么的，滚他妈的。
Sadly I didn't delete the account like I planned to, and I don't remember what verification I did on accoutn creation, did i get rekt??
可惜我没按计划删号，也忘了开户时做过什么验证，我完了吗？？
omega kekking at the last mail in my screenshot
对我截图里最后一封邮件笑出声
>>109800541
They provided their whole database. So basically every male European zoomer (their main target demographic) has had his info leaked.
他们交出了整个数据库。所以基本上每个欧洲 Z 世代男性（他们的主要目标人群）的信息都被泄了。
>>109799079
lmao just a month ago I signed up with them and they kept sending me email that the 'verification is simple and take few minutes!!'
哈哈就在一个月前我注册了他们，他们一直发邮件说「验证很简单只要几分钟！！」
>>109799297
it's not a shithole, I assume, just because a gov requested something doesn't just give the right, unless a court order do so only, let a lone a fucking email request holy shit, mutts are retarded
那不是粪坑国家吧，我猜，政府提个要求不代表就有权拿到，除非法院下令，更别说一封他妈的邮件请求，美国佬真是弱智
nobody has any business opening a bank account except in person, really. want international banking? go there and make sure the building really exists first.
说真的，开户只应该当面办。想要国际银行服务？亲自过去，先确认那栋楼真的存在。
>>109799079
im completely done with these digital-only financial companies
我跟这种纯数字金融公司彻底两清了
i had to """""""""""securely""""""""" face scan to get my fucking savings out of trading212, but i needn't worry as its fucking """""secure"""""
我从 trading212 取他妈的积蓄还得「安——全」人脸扫描，不过不用怕，因为它他妈很「安——全」
they save that data for seven years, you know? fucks sake
这数据他们存七年，知道吗？妈的
>>109800862
Some places they will refuse a bank account even if it's illegal to do so for spurious reasons. Way easier to do international stuff including but not limited to business with these online banks. I use wise for my business for this reason, because opening a corpo account would take minimum 3 months, I would have to go to every single bank in the country to find the one that won't reject for no reason, application forms are all non-standard and long as fuck to do, and even if I do get it open, I get to pay monthly fees.
有些地方他们会拿些莫名其妙的理由拒绝给你开户，哪怕那么做是违法的。办国际业务（包括但不限于公司业务）用这些网上银行容易得多。我因为这点用 Wise 做公司账户：开公司户最少 3 个月，我得跑遍全国每家银行找一家不会无缘无故拒我的，申请表全不统一且长得要死，就算开成了，我还要月月交费。
>>109800703
>They provided their whole database
>他们交出了整个数据库
wtf lol
我操 哈哈
people laugh at me for paying 5 euros/month for a bank account at a boring old physical bank (you can still do everything online) but at least I know there isn't some jeet at the customer service who has no idea about any laws whatsoever and will just hand over the entire customer database to a fake government agency
有人笑我每月为无聊老实体银行的账户付 5 欧元（网上什么都能办），但至少我知道客服里没有对法律一无所知、会把整个客户数据库拱手交给假政府机构的印度佬
>>109799079
And the EU is pushing for even more KYC, ID verification, age verification, etc., and cucks eat it all up like there's no tomorrow.
而欧盟还在推动更多 KYC、身份验证、年龄验证等等，怂货们像没明天一样全盘吞下。
>>109801579
But we have to stop all the criminaaaals
可是我们得拦住所有犯罪——分子啊
>meanwhile shisha bar owner who makes 3 million euros revenue all in cash with 5 customers per week passes audit with flying colors
> meanwhile 水烟馆老板每周 5 个客人、300 万欧元收入全现金，审计轻松满分通过
This is what happens when you put Indians in customer support/legal team
把印度人放进客服/法务团队就是这样
Anyways, Revolut is still the best bank in EVROPA unfortunately, there aren't many good alternatives
不管怎么说，Revolut 不幸仍是欧罗巴最好的银行，好的替代品不多
luddites eatin good tonite
勒德分子今晚吃香喝辣
>>109801579
it's simple. for me that's the cue to stop. don't matter what it is, as service. not using it.
很简单。对我来说这就是停用的信号。不管是什么 as a service，不用。
mark of the beast you willingly take
自愿接受的兽印
>>109802228
Literally every bank has KYC. There are lots of services you can't really live without without becoming a retarded outcast. Just don't heckin' use it is not viable advice.
字面意义上每家银行都有 KYC。很多服务你不用就会变成弱智边缘人。「别用不就行了」根本不是可行建议。
>>109802263
still alive tho.
不过我还活着。
>muh outcast
>边缘人什么的
you are literally on 4chan, posting that
你字面上正在 4chan 发这条话
>>109802280
yeah ok have fun in your mom's basement while it lasts I guess, kiddo
行行行，在你能撑着的时候在你妈地下室里玩得开心吧小鬼
>>109802298
>posts on 4chan
>在 4chan 发帖
I get it you're jealous some people can avoid the mark of the beast while you're willingly snorting that shit and feel like a fucking loser that it's not fair everyone should snort the mark of the beast like you, if something bad happens to you it should happen to everyone as well, why should others avoid it if you're too weak to avoid it?
我懂了，你嫉妒有些人能避开兽印，而你在主动吸那玩意，还因为不公平——凭什么别人不用像你一样吸兽印——而觉得自己是个他妈失败者。你出了事就该所有人都出事？你太弱避不开，凭什么别人要跟你一样避不开？
isn't it?
不是吗？
>>109802418
>oh my science the ebin super sekrit anonymouse hax0rz forum known as four channel :O
>哦我的科学，那是超——级——秘——密的匿名黑客论坛「四频道」:O
>>109802263
>There are lots of services you can't really live without without becoming a retarded outcast.
>很多服务你不用就会变成弱智边缘人。
Such as?
例如？
>>109802645
such as internet, banks, cell phone providers
比如互联网、银行、手机运营商
some social media sites too, depending on your occupation and/or interests
还有一些社交媒体，取决于你的职业和/或兴趣
If you can't list a few on your own, you're genuinely retarded.
你要是连几个都列不出来，你是真的弱智。
>>109799297
>The attacker would have had to hack the government email server.
>攻击者得先黑掉政府的邮件服务器。
Wouldn’t one compromised mailbox do?
攻陷一个邮箱不就够了？
hey, you, yes you, 4chan glowie, I know you are there falseflaggin
嘿，你，对，就是你，4chan 的联邦探员，我知道你在那假旗操作
dont think i forgot about Terry or Harambe
别以为我忘了 Terry 和 Harambe
So explain yourself. How did they steal government emails?
那你解释解释。他们怎么偷到政府邮箱的？
>>109799079
Fuck i just downloaded this shit last month to make it my piggy bank and save some money every month……..i knew they were up to no good when they asked me for my passport…whatever man
操我上个月刚下了这玩意打算当存钱罐每月存点钱……他们问我要护照时我就知道没好事……随便吧
>>109799110
>We need to kill everyone involved.
>我们得把所有相关的人都杀掉。
Unfortunately nobody knows their names, occupations, or where they live except them and whoever they gave the info to.
可惜除了他们自己和把信息交的对象，没人知道他们的名字、职业或住址。
>>109803400
Every bank asks for your passport or driver's license tho?
可是哪家银行不要你的护照或驾照？
>>109799110
fpbp.
>>109800843
>mutts are retarded
>美国佬真是弱智
We're not taking about an American company. Do eurocucks even have rights?
我们说的不是美国公司。欧洲怂货有权利吗？
>>109799079
Why wouldn't they?
他们为什么不该有？
Why would companies give even half a rat's ass about protecting this information when the only consequence is that you have to write an "oopsie whoopsie, we did a leaky-weeeky" mail to your customers?
当泄露数据的唯一后果是给客户发一封「哎呀小失误，我们漏了一丢丢」的邮件时，公司凭什么哪怕半点在乎保护这些信息？
Who also don't care care because they are all normies and used to being mistreated and having no recourse?
客户也不在乎，因为他们全是 Normal 人，习惯了被欺负、没有任何救济途径？
>>109799110
This is why I support the corporate death penalty (also the regular death penalty (and extrajudicial killings))
这就是我支持企业死刑（以及普通死刑（以及法外处决））的原因
>>109803704
This. Leaks are common because the cost of the leak to the consumer is not being extracted from the company.
就是这样。泄露频发，因为泄露给消费者造成的成本没有从公司身上收回来。
It should be valued at a 30+ year pain and suffering increased identity theft valuation that ruins the company when involving enough customers.
它应该按「30 年以上身份盗用痛苦折磨」计价，涉及足够多客户时直接判死公司。
>Revolut
shilled so badly, academics here got paid to promote it before lectures and not just IT related subjects
狗托狗到离谱，这里教授上课前拿钱推广它，还不止 IT 相关科目
>You yes you, 80 female (and one male student at the back) sitting in here for Art Historical lecture about Vasarely need to embrace Revolut now!
>来上瓦萨雷里艺术史课的你们，80 位女士（后排还有一位男同学），现在就拥抱 Revolut 吧！
>>109799079
Can't be me. Any service that asked for ID I stopped using.
反正不是我。任何要求身份证件的服务我都停用了。
>>109802228
The worst ones are the filthy Indian hindpoo sites that let you create accounts, then transfer funds, and as soon as your funds clear, then they force the KYC on you. That shit should be illegal.
最恶心的是那些肮脏的印度教厕所网站：让你先建号转账，等你的钱一清结算，立刻强制 KYC。这种行为应该违法。
>>109799079
>Revolut
>>109799297
it is their fault for complying with governments. Wouldn't have happened if they kept the minimum possible user information with everything else user-end encrypted.
怪他们配合政府。要是他们只保留最少必要的用户信息、其余全部用户端加密，这事就不会发生。
>>109799079
I have no idea what "Revolut" is and I am not even going to look it up.
我完全不知道「Revolut」是什么，我甚至不打算去查。
>>109802723
In my experience old school business require no biometric data. They ask for an ID when you sign up, they can with their own eyes see the picture on the ID matches the person in front of them, ask for a phone number and an email adress (you can provide a throwaway one).
以我的经验，老派业务不需要生物识别数据。注册时看一眼证件、亲眼确认照片跟眼前的人对得上，要个电话和邮箱（给个一次性的也行）。
No old school bank has a selfie of me in their database.
没有任何老派银行数据库里有我的自拍。
Boomers win yet again
老登又一次赢了
>>109799079
This isn't a problem for Monero chads.
门罗币壮汉没这个烦恼。
>>109803446
depends on the bank and country's regulations, anon. but yeah, this is normal in 2026 due to many countries enacting various anti-money laundering laws
取决于银行和所在国的法规，老哥。不过对，2026 年这很正常，因为很多国家颁布了各种反洗钱法
>>109804661
Monero constantly has severe security exploits because the devs are not competent. You can't offramp monero without considerable KYC bullshit, far more than revolut, and exchanges constantly host coins hostage or steal them outright (thankfully with bank involvement that is no longer the standard but the flipside is everything's fully centralized now). If monero could be used to buy day-to-day stuff instead, like if anyone had ever bought a house with monero the way it's been done with bitcoin before, or even pizza, then that would be fine. But instead monero only exists to be exchanged back for cash.
门罗币经常出严重安全漏洞，因为开发者水平不行。没有大量 KYC 狗屁你没法把门罗换出金——比 Revolut 麻烦得多——而且交易所动辄扣币当人质或直接卷款跑路（幸好有银行参与后这不再是常态，但代价是现在一切都彻底中心化了）。如果门罗真能买日用品——比如真有人用门罗买房过（像当年用比特币那样），哪怕买披萨——那还行。可实际上门罗存在的唯一意义就是换回现金。
>>109804506
The minimum is "Come back with a warrant!"
最低标准是「拿搜查令再来！」
>>109799297
What the fuck is wrong with you? Even if it was from a legitimate government email that would still be no excuse to hand over user data unless they were legally served a subpoena or warrant. This isn't communist China you spineless little worm
你他妈有什么毛病？就算邮件来自正经政府邮箱，在没被合法送达传票或搜查令前也绝没理由交出用户数据。这不是共产中国，你这个没脊梁的小虫子
>>109799297
At the absolute very fucking least you confirm the request via another channel. Emails are too vulnerable and everybody knows it. You don't just hand out that sort of customer data without being 200% sure about the veracity of the request. Yet they did. And now they're acting even shadier, blocking the guy who initially reported the breach on Xitter and are seemingly trying their best to bury the story.
最他妈起码你也该通过另一个渠道确认请求。邮件太脆弱了，人人都知道。你不能在没 200% 确认请求真实性之前就交出这种客户数据。他们交了。现在他们还更遮遮掩掩，把最早在 X 上爆料的人在 X 上封了，看起来正拼命埋掉这事。
Another perfect example of why you should NEVER trust British subhumans. The whole island needs sinking into the sea.
又一个完美例证：永远别信英国低等人。整座岛都该沉海。
>>109805068
>This isn't communist China you spineless little worm
>这不是共产中国，你这个没脊梁的小虫子
If you're a financial institution in the west you already are living under a communist China type system. Don't listen to glowies and you might as well lose your entire fucking business because you dared asking for warrants
你要是西方的金融机构，你本来就活在共产中国式体制下。别听探员的，否则你会因为敢要搜查令直接丢掉整个生意
>>109799079
>never verified my identity with them
>从没在他们那验证过身份
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>109804972
>if anyone had ever bought a house with monero the way it's been done with bitcoin before, or even pizza
>比如真有人用门罗买房过（像当年用比特币那样），哪怕买披萨
You can indeed buy all kinds of things with it
你确实能用它买各种东西
>But instead monero only exists to be exchanged back for cash.
>可实际上门罗存在的唯一意义就是换回现金。
That's funny, I've only ever exchanged fiat for Monero.
好笑，我只换入过门罗，从没换出过。
>>109805517
>AI generated slops
>AI 生成垃圾
>KYC-requiring spending cards
>需要 KYC 的消费卡
>casinos
>nothing else
>没别的了
Schizo moment
精分时刻
>>109805584
not a single house or a pizza? damn
连一栋房、一个披萨都没有？靠
>>109800595
same I keep getting spammed with this shit, can they just fuck off if I had a Swiss Mastercard I wouldn't need their shitty service in the first place.
同款，我一直被这垃圾骚扰。他们能不能滚，我要是有瑞士万事达我一开始就不需要他们那破服务。
>>109804654
This, I've seriously considered making a Revolut/N26/whatever account but there's zero chance I'm sending my ID or passport copy over.
就是这样，我认真考虑过开 Revolut/N26/什么账户，但让我上传身份证或护照复印件？零可能。
>>109805594
wrong thread dickass
发错帖了蠢货
>>109805735
He's been spamming in every single thread for months on end, mods don't care.
这人连续几个月在每个帖子里刷屏，版务不管。
>>109799079
Tell your local MPs to mandate your country's approved financial institutions are not to store identity documents and facial verifications. Instead, retain only the textual details that are important (e.g. passport numbers had to get approved from their system upon document submission, so they must only keep the value itself and discard the full uploaded passport image), and for faces, thumbnails only.
去告诉你本地的议员：强制规定本国获准经营的金融机构不得存储身份证件和人脸核验数据。只保留重要的文本信息（比如护照号在提交时就得经他们系统审批，所以他们只该保留号码本身、丢弃上传的完整护照图片），人脸只留缩略图。
This goes for more than Revolut, and nothing will change unless this becomes a global norm. People won't do shit though, and Revolut did a little "oops tee-hee~" with no consequence from wherever they operate.
这不只针对 Revolut，除非这成为全球规范，否则什么都不会变。不过人们屁都不会做的，Revolut 也只是轻轻来了句「哎呀嘻嘻~」，在运营地没有任何后果。
Again, show this scenario to your local MPs and make it known this is a threat in the current climate else it will happen again.
再说一次，把这事告诉本地议员，让大家知道当前环境下这是威胁，不然还会重演。
>>109804034
Unironically this. The uncompetence of these people endangers the livelihood of their clients. They should pay the equal price.
不开玩笑，就是这样。这些人的无能危及客户的生计。他们应该付出对等代价。
>>109804972
>Monero constantly has severe security exploits because the devs are not competent
>门罗币经常出严重安全漏洞，因为开发者水平不行
LMAO. Ok bro. I'm sure your Zion bags will pump after just a few more lies.
哈哈行吧兄弟。我确定再多撒几个谎，你的 Zion 袋鼠仓就能拉盘。
>>109806477
The monero group is good from a response perspective precisely because everytime another severe vuln is found, they quickly respond and publicize the info about the issue. But since they keep having more, it's not a good idea.
从响应角度看门罗团队确实不错，因为每次发现严重漏洞他们都迅速响应并公开问题。但正因为他们漏洞不断，所以不看好。
>>109806543
>But since they keep having more, it's not a good idea
>但正因为他们漏洞不断，所以不看好
Keep up the great effort champ, a couple more lies here and you'll hit quota today.
继续保持吧冠军，今天再撒几个谎你就完成配额了。
>>109799079
>receive email
>「收到邮件」
>looks sus
>看着可疑
>call department
>打给部门
>this you?
>这是你吗？
>no
>delete email
>删除邮件
AI has turned companies into fucking retards.
AI 把公司变成了彻头彻尾的弱智。
>>109800474
And the reason to do that is asking for a warrant is cheaper. Why blindly approve all requests and spend money fulfilling them?
而且这么做的理由是要搜查令更省钱。为什么要无脑批准所有请求、花钱去执行？
>>109806580
It's all publicly available on the monero website.
全公开挂在门罗币官网上。
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