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>even the free tier clankers can actually put numbers in context
>连免费档铁皮桶都能真的把数字放进上下文了
it's so fucking over... this shit certainly won't replace us all, but it surely will reduce the workforce drastically, and unless our society starts producing a LOT more than it does currently, things look really grim...
彻底完了……这玩意当然替代不了我们所有人，但肯定会大幅缩减劳动力，而除非我们的社会开始产出比现在多得多的东西，前景真的很严峻……
I'm not saying these glorified chatbots will do things by themselves, but they certainly will make a huge difference in the hands of productive people.
我不是说这些高级聊天机器人能自己干活，但在有生产力的人手里它们肯定会带来巨大差异。
IMO, you guys either learn to do something useful and tangible (like 3d printed things, electricity/electronics, or whatever else) and implement + sell your own innovative/creative solutions, or get left behind.
在我看来，你们要么学点有用有形的东西（比如 3D 打印、电工/电子之类），自己实现并卖自己的创新/创意方案，要么被甩下车。
me? I'm fucked. I'm tired of tech and haven't configured anything in years (not my current job).
我？我完了。我厌倦了科技行业，好几年没配置过任何东西了（不是现在的工作）。
>Your offer from Apple.
>你那份苹果的 offer。
>Congratulations, Anon. We're thrilled to extend an offer of employment.
>恭喜，Anon。我们非常高兴向你发出录用 offer。
>>109792402
>>109792402
kill yourself gachanigger
去死吧抽卡黑鬼
>>109792603
Is it a random MBA or is it in line with your current job?
是随便一个 MBA 还是跟你现在工作对口的？
>>109792402
>>109792955
This kills the pajeet >>109793016
这杀死了一个印度阿三 >>109793016
>>109793067
In line with my current job.
跟我现在的工作对口。
>>109793112
why does he look like he wants to sell me moon sugar?
为什么他看起来像要卖我月糖（上古卷轴毒品）？
what do you guys do outside of work?
大家下班后都干什么？
>>109793167
goon, play gacha, goon to gacha
发情、玩抽卡、对着抽卡发情
Just got rid of one of our luddites, feels damn good
刚送走我们一个勒德分子，爽死了
I'm not going to be a father
我不会当爸爸了
I don't feel any relief. but I guess that's good
没感到如释重负，不过大概是好事吧
>>109792402
Friendly reminder that tech workers are encouraged to move to Japan
友情提醒：科技打工人被鼓励移居日本
>>109793206
why?
for how long?
搬了多久？
doing that for 2 months felt like enough. I hate working 7pm to 3am. kissed goodbye to Friday nights
干了两个月就感觉够了。我讨厌晚 7 点干到凌晨 3 点。周五晚上说拜拜了
>>109793167
Beer, anime, vidya, fixing up the house. Then i top it all off with crying myself to sleep.
啤酒、动漫、游戏、修房子。最后用哭着自己睡着收尾。
>>109793206
Literally how?
字面意义上怎么做到的？
Yeah baby, talk to me about tradeoffs. Just like that. Mmm, you’re so hot.
对宝贝，跟我说说 tradeoff。就是这样。嗯你好骚。
Now give me some metrics.
现在给我来点指标。
Ooh, yeah.
噢对，就这样。
Now tell me about your impact.
现在跟我说说你的 impact。
Tell me what made you load-bearing.
告诉我是什么让你成了承重墙。
Oh god, I’m coooooooooming
天哪，我要——去了
Have you been interviewed entirely by an AI agent yet (in real time)?
你被 AI agent 全程实时面试过吗？
>>109793298
cool popcorn bucket
很酷的爆米花桶
i wanna go to tokyo disney again now
我现在又想去东京迪士尼了
Why are there so many söy and plebbit phenotypes within the SWE industry and very seldom do you see any rugged individuals. It's like a collection of outcasts not to mention the minorities. I feel like puking whenever I see my coworkers. It's even worse when having to talk to them since the conversation are so superficial. I can't call them a giant faggot or a fucking nigger or a shitskin. Everything is so fake, there is no cohesiveness.
为什么软件行业这么多 Soylent 和 Reddit 脸型，很少见到硬汉个体？简直是一群边缘人的集合，更别提少数族裔。每次看到同事我都想吐。跟他们说话更糟，对话肤浅到爆。我不能叫他们巨型基佬、黑鬼或棕色皮。一切都好假，毫无凝聚力。
>>109793545
if you want to work with le heckin based 6’ aryans, work in sales or finance
想跟「超嘿 based 的 6 英寸雅利安人」共事，去做销售或金融
>>109793545
Try not to work with women or jeets
尽量别跟女人或印度佬共事
>>109793545
Everything is fake, including the rugged individuals. They're no different. They just use a veneer of muscle and masculine posturing to hide their problems.
一切都是假的，包括硬汉个体。他们没什么不同，只是拿肌肉和男子气概表演当外皮盖住自己的问题。
>>109793545
if I was your coworker you could call me a nigger or a shitskin, anon-kun
我要是你同事，你尽管叫我黑鬼或棕色皮，Anon 酱
>>109792402
my companies been pushing us to use AI, and when asked today about how I could use it, I talked about how I could probably automate a lot of the daily tasks I have to do. I've been doing this anyway, not all AI but I've automated most of my job lol. Boss said if I come up with something to show him and we can present it to "private equity guy".
我们公司一直在推我们用 AI，今天被问到我会怎么用时，我说我大概能把很多日常任务自动化。其实我早就在干了，不全靠 AI 但我的工作大部分已经自动化了 哈哈。老板说我要是搞出个东西给他看，就能拿去给「私募股权的人」展示。
I've of course been keeping my automation shit a secret the whole time I've been here so I don't have to do more work, but it's only a matter of time now until somebody higher up just automates my department anyway. How retarded is it to show off my automation in hopes that they think I'm "good with AI" and keep me on doing some bullshit? Maybe I should just wait until they're laying us off already so there's no harm in it. I don't wanna fuck over my coworkers but if the reality is that our department is gonna disappear then why the fuck not
我在这一直对我的自动化黑科技保密，这样我就不用多干活。但迟早上层哪天直接把我们整个部门自动化掉。展示我的自动化、赌他们觉得我「很会 AI」然后留我做点杂活，这有多蠢？也许我该等真开始裁员了再说，反正没损失。我不想坑同事，但现实是部门都要没了，那又他妈有什么所谓
>>109792603
Even Magnificent 7 MBA grads (Harvard, Stanford, etc.) are struggling to get jobs.
连 Magnificent 7 的 MBA（哈佛、斯坦福之类）都难找工作。
>>109793919
It'll only cost me 4k$ due to leftover military benefits. I might as well anon.
因为退伍军人福利剩余额度，只要 4 千美元。那不如读一个，老哥。
So my dreamjob is to work in industrial data analytics, preferably in battery manufacturing, maybe semiconductors.
我的梦想工作是做工业数据分析，最好是电池制造，或者半导体。
I have already 2 years of student jobs in industrial R&D in other materials science fields. I know was offered an internship in data analytics at a company in a different field however it is heavily focuses on CRM and Business Intelligence, so quite a bit of a diversion, they are using databricks.
我已经在其他材料科学领域做过 2 年工业研发学生工。现在有家别的领域的公司给了个数据分析实习，但重度偏 CRM 和商业智能，所以偏得挺多，他们用 Databricks。
What do you think, is is worth it to not extend my current working student contract for this?
你们觉得，为了这个不去续我现在的学生工合同值得吗？
>>109793167
Lift, run, cook
撸铁、跑步、做饭
Play soccer/tennis, hang out with friends
踢球/打网球，跟朋友出去玩
Take care of my dog, homelab/arduino tinkering
照顾我的狗，玩家庭实验室/Arduino
Mindlessly consume Instagram Reels/YouTube videos (it’s gotten really bad, was averaging 2.5 hours/day of Instagram until I set a 1 hour limit)
无脑刷 Instagram Reels/YouTube（已经恶化到很离谱，日均 Instagram 2.5 小时直到我设了 1 小时上限）
>>109793924
>ZOG
Going to school has an opportunity cost; it’s 2 years where you’re losing money instead of making money/stacking YOE
上学有机会成本：那 2 年你在亏钱而不是赚钱/攒工作经验。
>>109793167
i work on my bike and drink with the locals and then complain on the internet
我修修自行车，跟本地人喝酒，然后上网发牢骚
>>109793933
>preferably in battery manufacturing, maybe semiconductors.
>最好是电池制造，或者半导体。
is that because you heard that's where the money is or can you explain the key advantages of specific battery chemistries over one another for a given specific type of implementation
是因为听说那里有钱，还是你能解释一下针对特定应用场景、某些电池化学体系比其他的关键优势？
>>109793167
firing rockets at techbros
朝科技佬发射火箭
okay but can we admit that curry tastes great? i'm personally very happy that the cafeteria serves curry almost every day.
行吧但咱能承认咖喱很好吃吗？我个人很高兴食堂几乎每天供应咖喱。
>>109794033
It's because my major is literally chemistry and yes I have some knowledge about the superiority, advantages and disadvantages of certain cell chemistries over others when it comes to aspects such as general safety, ambient temperature, operating temperatures, critical materials, mechanic behavior (like volumetric expansion) and these are just some of the non-electrical characteristics. I have conducted EIS as part of my lab courses in the first place.
因为我专业字面上就是化学，而且我确实了解某些电芯化学体系在安全性、环境温度、工作温度、关键材料、机械行为（比如体积膨胀）等方面相比其他体系的优劣，这还只是非电特性的一部分。我实验室课本来就做过 EIS（电化学阻抗谱）。
There isn't actually a lot of money here because at this point China already completely dominates the overwhelming majority of battery manufacturing.
这行其实没多少钱，因为现在中国已经完全支配了绝大部分电池制造。
>>109794114
There's a million types of curries, it's like saying soup tastes great
咖喱有百万种，就像说「汤很好喝」一样
>>109794135
ok fair enough i guess. i responded with hostility because most people who are currently "obsessed" about batteries or semiconductors are so because they see that's what's making money in the Financial Times
行吧说得对。我语气敌对是因为现在「痴迷」电池或半导体的人，大多是因为看《金融时报》发现这行赚钱
>>109794140
when i was in the navy, people would often parrot only half-joking that if they took away 10AM Soup that the entire force would mutiny. even bad soup is good soup. dont talk shit about soup. sometimes you just need Mediocre Meal, But It's Liquid
我在海军时，大家常半开玩笑地鹦鹉学舌说要是取消上午 10 点的汤，全军都会哗变。烂汤也是好汤。别对汤放屁。有时候你只需要一顿平庸的饭，但它是液体
bad curry is bad though fuck dat nigga
烂咖喱就是烂，操那黑鬼咖喱
>>109793167
I dunno, just live? I work from home, so other than meetings I'm pretty much free to do whatever I want. Cook all my own food, learning wood working, doing mechanical stuff, talking shit with friends in other fields.
不知道，就正常生活？我远程办公，除了开会基本想干嘛干嘛。自己做饭、学木工、捣鼓机械、跟别的行业的朋友吹牛。
>>109794018
unironically i had a little pang of guilt about my personal life at work because someone asked me if I was gonna spend all weekend working on my bike and i had to pause and try to turn a heartfelt sad "yes" into a laughing-lest-i-cry "yes"
不装了说，有一次我对自己的私生活感到一阵内疚，因为有人问我周末是不是又要整修自行车整两天，我顿了一下，努力把一声心酸的「是」挤成带着笑怕哭出来的「是」
w2c a new hobby, my bike isnt even good and if i wanna make it good i need more tools and tooling than fit in my apartment
求个新爱好，我那车都不算好，想弄好点需要的工具比我公寓能塞的还多
>>109792402
Oh hey i gooned to this tiktok earlier today our google analytics are starting to have fyp babies :3
哈我今天早些时候对着这条 TikTok 发情来着，我们的 Google Analytics 都开始给 FYP 生娃了 :3
>>109794263
>>109792402
i actually thought this was supposed to be the p5 velvet room attendants for a second and got annoyed that they didnt have eyepatches. then i saw the zebra tails. modern character design is really unimaginative now
我真有一秒以为这是 P5 天鹅绒房间的那几位，还生气她们没戴眼罩。然后看见了斑马尾巴。现在的角色设计真没想象力
>>109794140
okay sorry akhil i'm just an uneducated gora, here's your izzat
好好好对不起 Akhil，我只是个没文化的白人，您的 izzat（印度式尊严）奉上
>>109794230
>work on my bike
>修修自行车
is there a character in a marvel movie that does this? why do so many people have this fake hobby? how about buy a bike that fuckin works retard?
漫威电影里有角色这么干吗？为什么这么多人都有这种假爱好？直接买辆他妈能骑的车不行吗弱智？
tatted up soilennial in his yard doing makework listening to arctic monkeys on boombox while drinking a pabst blue ribbon
纹身土千禧在自家院子里干假活，用收录机放 Arctic Monkeys，喝 Pabst Blue Ribbon
>Yeah thats totally my hobby!
>对对对这完全就是我的爱好！
>>109794345
>how about buy a bike that fuckin works retard?
>直接买辆他妈能骑的车不行吗弱智？
because an entry level tr*k costs like 1500$ even before motorization, and they're full of proprietary nonsense. not like how computing is where you can still learn and work around it, i mean "you can't just buy bolts from the hardware store anymore, you need special ones"
因为入门级崔克（Trek）光车架不含电助力就要 1500 美元，而且全是专有零件的屁事。不像计算机你还能学还能绕开，我是说「螺栓不能再去五金店随便买了，得买专用款」
>tatted up soilennial in his yard doing makework listening to arctic monkeys on boombox while drinking a pabst blue ribbon
>纹身土千禧在自家院子里干假活，用收录机放 Arctic Monkeys，喝 Pabst Blue Ribbon
for me that was when i was back in mt. real and larped as a future car owner. now i sit in my shitty apartment and blast "BURN MY DREAD (but its rly emo)" whilst drinking locally produced "rum" (actual cane sugar has never even been near this bottle) throwing a tantrum because it turns out I'm not as good a mechanic as I'd like to be, and spare parts are more expensive than the piece of shit I'm putting them on
对我来说那是我在蒙特利尔装成未来车主的时候。现在我坐在破公寓里，外放「BURN MY DREAD（emo 版）」，喝本地产「朗姆」（瓶子里这辈子没碰过真甘蔗糖），撒泼打滚，因为事实证明我没自己想的那么会修车，而且备件比我要修的这坨垃圾本身还贵
even a case of assorted M4-6 bolts cost literally 1/4 as much as the frame I'm replacing basic hardware on
一盒 M4-6 混装螺栓的价格，字面意义上是我更换基础五金那根车架的 1/4
>>109794345
>>109794416
Though once something mechanical finally works out it does feel better than anything you can do with a computer. The feeling of success is literally tangible. It's even better than nutting on or in a creature. You HAVE a creature.
不过一旦某件机械的东西终于搞成了，那种感觉确实比计算机上任何事都爽。成功的触感是字面意义上摸得到的。比对什么生物内射或被内射都爽。你真的「拥有」一个造物。
>>109794416
didnt answer my actual question at all, which is about where people are picking up this manufactured personality from. are people like you made in a factory or from watching too much tv?
根本没回答我真正的问题，也就是人们从哪学来这种人造人格。像你这样的人是流水线造的，还是电视看多了？
>>109794443
before I can answer that in good faith i have to ask whether you mean pedal bikes or motor bikes (if it's e bikes that still requires further questioning of what style)
想认真回答之前得先问清楚：你说的是脚踏车还是摩托车（如果是电单车，还得追问哪种款式）
>>109794451
you are probably talking about motorcycles? for the spandex grandpas riding around town in their bikes, i assume its a homosexual thing. this is pragmatic, they are just trying to meet other old homos.
你说的大概是摩托车？至于满城骑行的紧身衣老爷子，我猜是同性恋的事。这么说很实用主义：他们只是想认识其他老年 Gay。
a guy performatively larping in his yard as a mechanic on a motorcycle with an msrp of 6k is the typical soilennial hobby. is this all a show for the 5 people in your neighborhood who happen to drive by and see you? is it so you can tell this story to people about how youre fixing up a bike? does this makework make you feel like your youre dad? does that faggy reddit book people talk about have a guy that does this? i just dont get it. is it also a homosexual thing? some bike clubs are really into leather.
一个男的在自家院子里对着标价 6 千美元的摩托车表演修车，就是典型的土千禧爱好。这演给谁看？给恰好路过看到你的邻居那 5 个人？还是为了跟人吹「我在修车」的故事？这种假活让你觉得像自己爹？Reddit 那本人人谈的 Gay 书里是不是有这么个角色？我就是不懂。这也是同性恋的事吗？有些机车俱乐部真的超爱皮革。
>>109793167
lifting, writing music
撸铁，写音乐
>>109792402
Old hags, give me the kids
老妖婆们，把孩子们还给我
>>109794487
How is this any different than you putting on your furry headphones, programmer socks, and playing roblox or whatever on a stream service?
这跟你戴上毛绒耳机、程序员袜、在流媒体上看 Roblox 或别的有什么区别？
At least anon is getting some physical and real work in, and can ride his bike. Nobody is going to ride you.
至少 Anon 干的是真实体力活，还能骑上他修好的车。没人会「骑」你。
>>109794487
no, my shit is a bicycle, with pedals. it's motorized but as a bootleg nonsense commuter vehicle. i just ride a bicycle with a series of motors on it, hence
不，我那玩意是带脚蹬的自行车。带电机，但是作为山寨离谱通勤载具。我就是骑一辆装了一堆电机的自行车，所以
>Tr*k
>for the spandex grandpas riding around town in their bikes, i assume its a homosexual thing.
>至于满城骑行的紧身衣老爷子，我猜是同性恋的事。
they are the most defensive closeteds around and all the oldguy homos i know have big landbarge cars and all the young homos commute on either public transit or in furry sticker lathen tuners.
他们是最护柜的深柜，我认识的老 Gay 都开陆地航母大车，年轻 Gay 要么公共交通要么贴毛绒贴纸的拉腾改装车通勤。
> i just dont get it. is it also a homosexual thing? some bike clubs are really into leather.
>我就是不懂。这也是同性恋的事吗？有些机车俱乐部真的超爱皮革。
if you mean BIKERS like harley riders, it's a long history stemming to harley (and their competitors) having tons of surplus to dump at the end of wwii, and motorcycle armor of the time being basically just leather clothing. so cheap bikes and people bringing their uniforms home or buying stuff similar to it after returning theirs made for the initial look, but it's hot, so now it's leather vests and chaps. then there's american association between motorcycles and horses, and the intersection of harley fashion and cowboy fashion converging as the original aims ceased to exist but the actual >USE CASE converged. that covers up until the year 1946
如果你说的是哈雷骑士那种 BIKERS，那有很长历史：哈雷（和竞争对手）在二战结束时有一堆军剩要甩卖，而当时的摩托车护具基本就是皮衣。所以便宜的车 + 退伍兵把制服带回家或退还后买类似的货，构成了最初造型，但太热了，所以变成皮马甲和皮套裤。再加上美国把摩托车跟马联系起来的文化，哈雷时尚和牛仔时尚汇聚——原始目的消失了但「使用场景」合流了。这讲到了 1946 年。
>on a motorcycle with an msrp of 6k
>对着标价 6 千美元的摩托车
lmao no one riding something costing less than 6k even owns actual "leathers" it's all poly shit with inserts for the cheap dualsport crowd (with good reason, it's just better, but you don't put it on to wrench, you do that shit in jorts and flip flops to be performative(vice hello kitty pajama set you actually wear to be comfy while in tight spaces in a low-income but overly white environment))
哈哈不会有人骑着低于 6 千的车还拥有真「皮具」的，全是带护块的涤纶货，便宜双用途车党（有充分理由，确实更好，但你不会穿着它修车，修车你穿牛仔短裤配人字拖摆拍（你真正穿着在狭窄空间里舒服干活的，是在低收入但过度白化环境里的 Hello Kitty 睡衣套装））
>adblock randomly failing on jewtube
>广告拦截在油管上随机失效
Disgusting, get this filth out of my sight at once
恶心，立刻把这秽物从我眼前拿开
and personally i do it literally because i needed a cheap commuter vehicle to get to the outskirts of town, but am a poorfag mentally and thus eternally so had to learn to wrench on it. i had experience with bikes from prior jobs where i would commute by bike and had to expand my knowledge by 2 or 3 mm to maintain my vehicle and fell into the ebike slop zone but not community.
我个人修车纯粹是因为需要个便宜的通勤载具去城郊，而我精神上是个穷逼因此永远如此，只能学会自己修。之前工作通勤骑车有点经验，为维护载具把知识扩了两三毫米，掉进了电单车垃圾区但没进社区。
most of that is hood nonsense that if you are familiar with dui riders throughout the last 30-40 years is nothing new. but if you aint, basically, the gist is that it's cheap vehicles that are easy to maintain, low powered, and nominally innocuous to authorities. but that is the kind of thing that when you wrench on it you do it in hello kitty pajamas and tell the story later, lest the gendarmerie catch wind that you have a vehicle that isn't being taxed right that second
大部分是街区烂事，你要是熟悉过去三四十年酒驾骑手就见怪不怪。简单说：便宜、好维护、动力低、对当局名义上无害的载具。就是那种你修它时穿 Hello Kitty 睡衣、事后才敢讲故事的车，免得宪兵队风闻你有一辆当秒没在缴税的车
for me, the shitty motorized bicycle is a necessary ad-hoc exploitation of technology available, and it's a tragedy that it has to exist, but the base item is what it is, with its various problems
对我而言，这辆破电动自行车是对现有技术的必要临时利用，它不得不存在本身就是悲剧，但基础物件就是这样，带着它的各种问题
>>109794487
bta
>does this makework make you feel like your youre dad?
>这种假活让你觉得像自己爹？
it's not makework. i have places to be nigga
这不是假活。黑哥我有地方要去
i try to take it easy but ive thrown a legit tantrum in the street in the last month over my shit not working and every piece that didnt work being the few things i havent touched myself. i spiked my goggles and helmet into the street and then rode on without over fog and lost a few ml of gas throwing my bike whole into grass. every piece of shit that was an oem part i hadn't hit with a file yet still worked when i calmed down and got me in well early. hug your machines bros. machine spirits are real and they are capricious hoes
我尽量佛系，但上个月我还是在街上真撒了一场泼，因为我的车不工作，而每个坏掉的零件恰好都是我没亲手碰过的那几个。我把风镜和头盔砸进街心，然后隔着不散的雾气继续骑，整车扔进草里还洒了几毫升油。每个还是 OEM 原件、没被我用锉刀碰过的破烂，冷静下来之后居然都还能用，一大早把我送到地方。抱抱你们的机器兄弟们。机器之魂是真的，而且都是善变的水性杨花货
using an air weapon on public transit in public is dinduism indoctrination
在公共场合、公共交通上用气枪，是被「无辜躺平学」洗脑了
>>109794679
fair assessment, but i think my trials and tribulations in my current personal life and how i've reacted to them is why i got hired in the first place. no manual teaches you how to fight, but datasheets are incredibly useful regardless
评价公道，但我现在私生活里的那些磨难以及我的应对方式，正是当初他们录用我的原因。没有手册教你打仗，但 datasheet（数据手册）无论如何都极其有用
>boss told me something like
>老板大概这么跟我说
>"There's a lot of outstanding projects. None of them will go anywhere, but we can try."
>「 outstanding 项目很多。它们哪个都不会有结果，但我们可以试试。」
>"You've gotta do something. You can't be 'just a tech' forever. Your shiftmates can't have all the glory for successful projects that go nowhere."
>「你得干点什么。你不能永远『只是个技术员』。那些哪儿也去不了的成功项目，功劳总不能全让你排班的同事拿走。」
>>109793545
fucking based!!!
太他妈有骨气了！！！
the product manager overlord at my company is mega-reddit. A colleague asked the team who used reddit and he raised his hand. It was nice to get confirmation, but not necessary. He is passive aggressive and has a shit ton of estrogen.
我们公司的产品经理霸主超级 Reddit 味。有同事问团队里谁用 Reddit，他举手了。确认了我的猜测，虽然不确认也无所谓。他阴阳怪气，雌激素含量爆表。
My manager is a fat slob with gross teeth and can barely speak or type coherently. Fat fucker sounds like a Looney tune.
我的经理是个胖懒汉，牙恶心，说话打字基本语无伦次。胖东西听着像乐一通角色。
>>109793545
>>109794812
Where I work, I'm literally the only guy from my company that doesn't have combat experience.
在我工作的地方，我是全公司唯一没有实战经验的人。
>>109794823
>>109794808
You are not normal. Your experiences are not normal. You do not even have an A+ certification.
你不正常。你的经历不正常。你连 A+ 证都没有。
>>109794823
Canadian vets are usually good lads imo
加拿大退伍军人通常都是好小伙
>>109792402
Why are these Indian Hindu invaders allowed to do this in our "American" tech companies, bros? What is the final solution to the Hindu barbarism problem?
兄弟们，为什么这些印度教徒侵略者可以在我们的「美国」科技公司这么干？对印度教野蛮主义的最终解决方案是什么？
>>109794931
Chuds must takeover.
红脖子必须接管。
>got a comfy sys admin job at a university where they're giving me the opportunity to learn on the job
>在大学找了份舒坦的系统管理员工作，还给我边干边学的机会
>don't know even a quarter of it
>连四分之一都不会
I feel like I won the jackpot but I also feel like I'm about to get fired.
我感觉像中了头奖，但也感觉自己随时会被开除。
hug your local tech (i want a hug sometimes even if i dont like it immediately)
抱抱你身边的技术支持（我有时候也想要个抱抱，哪怕当下会不自在）
I only took this job because I'm into that kind of thing. As much as it looks like I'm not here to fight with you, I am. Don't take it in a weird way, but you making me nervous about some equipment failure makes me feel alive and useful. It makes me feel bad when it doesn't work out, too. I joke that I do a lot of nothing, but they pay me to be on standby for you. It's not an interesting puzzle or something, I genuinely want you to be able to do your work. It's not useful to me if you leave and I figure it out later for the next guy. We all get paid either way. I want to be able to say I get paid for nothing because it all works. When it doesn't work after all that, that represents a failure on my part. There might not have been anything I could have done about it, but I'm more annoyed than you are about it.
我接这工作就是因为喜欢这种事。虽然看起来我不是来跟你们争的，但我就是。别想歪，你让我对某个设备故障紧张起来，会让我觉得自己活着、有用。没搞定的时候我也会难受。我开玩笑说我成天啥也没干，但他们付钱就是让我为你待命。这不是什么有趣的谜题，我是真心想让你能干活。你要是走了、我事后才弄明白，对下一个人有用，对我没用。反正咱们都拿工资。我想说「一切正常所以我白拿钱」就心满意足。折腾半天还是不行，那就是我的失败。也许我本来就无能为力，但我会比你更烦。
>>109794931
indians only hires other indians. they are like cancer, once they're in the system, they will just keep growing until it is completely infected
印度人只招印度人。他们像癌症，一旦进入系统就会一直扩张直到彻底感染
what if the field is oversaturated
要是这个行业已经饱和过剩呢
I have run out of passion for work and need a top-up. i know it's still capable because i sent a turnover email saying i am willing to drill existing chassis out to fit stuff for a whim of one of the dogs of the shogunate. the passion dissipated quickly. how do i maintain consistent fey mood
我对工作的热情耗尽了，需要充值。我知道它还有存货，因为我发过一封转岗邮件，说愿意为了幕府走狗的一时兴起把现有机箱钻洞改装。热情很快消散。怎么维持稳定的「菲伊心情」（矮人要塞梗）
>>109793206
do new workers in japan get a qt jap wife as a welcoming gift?
去日本的新员工会送可爱日本老婆当迎宾礼吗？
>>109794263
the gooniverses are colliding
发情宇宙正在相撞
I am concerned that I have problems with my trade, and that trade is something I share with you, and that the 'normies' around have no concerns greater than what they goon to next or having their do-nothing job lost to someone who can't even hack it as a doordash driver.
我担心的是我这一行出了问题，而这是我们共同的行当，周围的「Normal 人」最大的焦虑不过是下一个发情对象，或者他们那份啥也不干的活被一个连外卖都送不明白的人抢走。
I am somehow considered competent in my field compared to the legions of people who can at least read and write english. If I can be considered competent, there's something wrong.
比起成堆至少会读写英语的人，我在业内居然算「有能力的」。如果连我都能算有能力，那行业有病。
>some box isn't working
>某台机器不工作
>do normal pleb shit like swapping cards around
>干点 Normal 人的杂活比如换换卡
>it works on first boot every time and fails after
>每次首次开机都正常、之后就坏
>but it still has every other problem that has been given up on
>但它仍然带着所有已经放弃治疗的其他问题
do i just have the Healing Touch (Female) where vitals are locked (even if at 0 (0 vitals is not dead until operation fails)) as long as I'm touching it
难道我有「神之手（女）」（创世机典梗）——只要我摸着它，生命体征就锁死（哪怕为 0（0 体征不算死，除非手术失败））
is being a tech admitting that you are not even as good as first response
当技术支持是不是等于承认你还不如一线急救
>>109792402
Eww hags cosplaying as lolis
呕，老妖婆 cos 萝莉
>>109794990
Why isn't the EEOC investigating this?
EEOC（平等就业机会委员会）怎么不来查这个？
Why are the reasons I feel poor job satisfaction so different from yours?
为什么我对工作不满的原因跟你们差这么远？
I love working remotely but I think it's setting me back professionally. I work longer hours and contribute more than all the onsite people on my team and they still get promoted over me. As much as I hate to do it because this was always my dream, I'm gonna give up my comfy lifestyle and target some hybrid roles.
我爱远程工作，但它在拖累我的职业发展。我工时更长、贡献比团队所有坐班的人都多，晋升还是越过我给他们的。虽然舍不得——这本来就是我的梦想——我打算放弃舒坦生活，转投混合办公岗位。
>>109795420
>>109795420
If you're not held in high esteem by upper management, it doesn't matter how hard you work. You would probably get passed over for a promotion even when you work on site.
如果高层管理不器重你，你多努力都没用。就算你坐班，晋升大概率也轮不到你。
>>109792402
Since turning 30 I've reached the stage where talking to anyone other than my dog is gives me a headache. There's an internal sigh I have to do before I speak to anyone since I have to socially perform.
过了 30 岁我到了那个阶段：除了我的狗，跟任何人说话都头疼。跟人开口前得先内部叹口气，因为我得进行社交表演。
>>109793167
Sports, lifting, painting warhammer figures, hang out with friend painting warhammer figures. I'm a rather socially stunted person so I keep to myself. Anyway, was thinking adding to this mix with either
运动、撸铁、涂战锤模型，跟朋友一起涂战锤模型。我是个社交发育不良的人，习惯独处。总之在想往这堆里加点什么，比如
>getting back into music aka guitar or
>重新玩音乐也就是吉他，或者
>try out some photography and learn how to take cool photos
>试试摄影，学怎么拍出好看的照片
>upgrade wardrobe
>升级衣橱
>try out some restaurants like normal people do
>像正常人一样探店吃餐馆
essentially my soul craves to make something.
本质上我的灵魂渴望创造点什么。
>>109795599
>essentially my soul craves to make something.
>本质上我的灵魂渴望创造点什么。
this is the only case with which Princess Auto may arise, and the only case upon which Princess Auto may be allowed to exist
这是 Princess Auto（加拿大五金店）可能存在的唯一理由，也是唯一允许它存在的理由
>shift lead says he's going to try some minor change after months of contact with engineers trying to figure out if one tiny thing can change without breaking everything else
>班组长说要试一个小改动，此前已和工程师拉扯数月，确认改这一丁点不会弄崩其他一切
Demon Lord of the Round Table, I pray for your success.
圆桌恶魔领主，愿您武运昌隆（ACE 战斗梗）。
>have this general in its own browser tab
>把这个通用帖单独开在浏览器一个标签页
>title says there are 60+ unread posts (odd for a friday)
>标题显示 60+ 未读（周五这不太对劲）
>read new posts
>读新帖
>more than half of them are off-topic blogposts by the furry retard
>一半以上是那个毛绒弱智的离题博客文
how the FUCK does this retard NEVER get banned? is this guy a janny?
这弱智到底怎么他妈从不被封？他是版务吗？
>>109795700
I work a tech job. That's more than you do.
我有科技行业的工作。这就比强。
>>109794990
*Hindus, but yes, they are a cancer and a virus. They are single minded: to destroy everything humans have built and assimilate every atom on this planet into their brown biomass through weaponized breeding and migration. Good thing we gave them control over all of our most critical tech and AI companies!
*是印度教徒，不过对，他们是癌症是病毒。他们目标单一：毁掉人类建造的一切，通过武器化的生育和移民把地球每个原子同化成他们的棕色生物质。幸好我们把最关键的科技和 AI 公司的控制权全给了他们！
>>109793206
>Friendly reminder that tech workers are encouraged to move to Japan
>友情提醒：科技打工人被鼓励移居日本
lol, lmao even...did you really think you would be safe there?
哈哈，笑死……你真以为去那儿就安全了？
>>109793206
Japan blows dick for codeniggers
日本对码农黑鬼来说烂得掉渣
Honestly japan blows dick in general, pay is very low across the board and the work culture sucks even if you get a lot more leeway as a forriner
说实话日本整体都烂，工资全面偏低，工作文化 sucks，哪怕你作为外国人自由度大一点
and the women are mid
而且女人也就中不溜
>>109795812
>low level
>底层岗
marry a jewish woman and have 12 children then, shana tova
那就娶个犹太女人生 12 个孩子，新年快乐（Shana Tova）
>>109792955
congrats! welcome to the team
恭喜！欢迎加入团队
i just got mine a few weeks ago
我几周前刚拿到我的
>>109795320
Because it's intentional. TPTB dont give a fuck about you. They prioritized AI funding over the welfare of its own citizens. They literally told you - layoffs are caused by AI. Every tech ceo was ordered to direct capital towards AI funding whether directly (GPU purchases) or indirectly (token payment). Tech companies all decided the easiest way to do that was to shed weight thru layoffs (using AI as an excuse) and hire cheaper replacements (jeets). As a bonus, hiring jeets unlocks trade deals with India. Unfortunately, they didn't take into account just how fucking incompetent and obnoxious jeets could be. Notice how there are ongoing visa fraud investigations now that midterms are coming up? Report jeets to EEOC while they're still dangling the issue as bait, cause theres no guarantee anything will be done about it after the midterms.
因为这是故意的。掌权者根本不在乎你。他们把 AI 融资排在公民福祉之上。他们字面上告诉过你——裁员是 AI 造成的。每个科技 CEO 都被要求把资本导向 AI 融资，无论是直接（买 GPU）还是间接（付 token 费）。科技公司全决定最简单的瘦身方式就是裁员（拿 AI 当借口）然后雇更便宜的替代者（印度佬）。附赠好处：雇印度佬能解锁跟印度的贸易协议。不幸的是，他们没算到印度佬能有多他妈无能和讨人厌。注意到中期选举临近签证欺诈调查开始了吗？趁官方还拿这问题当诱饵，赶紧向 EEOC 举报印度佬，因为中期选举后没人保证会有任何处理。
>>109793545
Because nerds and outcasts were cast out by HR thots who only let jocks and basedcucks ("harmless good guys") in sometimes in the late 90's to early 00's.
因为呆子和边缘人在 90 年代末 2000 年代初就被 HR 碧池们赶出去了，人家只放运动员和「无害老实人」进圈。
>>109794898
l m a o
my fucking sides
笑死我了
They're even retarded than the normal variety, who can barely function without a special needs nurse telling them to breathe on time.
他们比普通款弱智还弱智，普通款没有特护护士提醒呼吸都活不下去。
>>109793721
onions cope kek
洋葱（soy）式自我安慰哈哈
>>109795871
Shana tova, dumb nametard, and jewish women are a meme. Even asian women are better.
新年快乐（Shana Tova），蠢货名字挂逼，犹太女人就是个梗，连亚洲女人都更好。
>>109793206
Low pay, low quality housing, unbearable summers, hellish bureaucracy, and incompatible culture with frontier tech are blockers for me.
低工资、低质量住房、难熬的夏天、地狱级官僚主义、跟前沿科技不兼容的文化，这些是我的拦路虎。
I'm fine working my remote job from there 1-3 months a year, even with airfare an accommodation subtracted I still save more.
我远程工作在那儿住每年 1-3 个月没问题，扣掉机票住宿我还是省更多。
>>109793444
No and I'm not going to.
没有，我也不会去。
My company just did a big layoff of anyone not deemed AI proficient; 5% of our devs got canned. I am thrilled, just 2 weeks ago I had a lead whining that AI is going to die for almost an hour, good riddance.
我们公司刚大裁员，凡是认定「AI 能力不足」的都裁；5% 的开发者被开了。我爽死了，两周前还有个 lead 唠叨 AI 要完蛋唠叨了近一小时，走得真好。
Company I just joined has almost 100% turnover rate in the last year. Am I in trouble?
我刚入职的公司过去一年流失率几乎 100%。我有麻烦吗？
>>109795895
wtf bro was moving in silence
卧槽老哥一直闷声办大事
>>109792402
>>109797978
why do those bitches look like auschwitz survivors? do they not have food in asia?
为什么那些婊子看着像奥斯维辛幸存者？亚洲没饭吃吗？
>>109794018
>i work on my bike
>我修修自行车
Do you also like hamtaro?
你也喜欢哈姆太郎吗？
>>109798055
to make my 6'+ white european dick harder
为了让我 6 英寸+ 的白欧老二更硬
>actually got grad job offer
>真拿到应届 offer 了
>won't start for another ~year
>还要差不多一年才入职
hopefully nothing bad happens until then
希望在那之前别出什么幺蛾子
>>109798055
Hello, as a descendant of Auschwitz camp, I actually fit most of Asian clothes despite being 10cm talller than an average Asian.
你好，作为奥斯维辛集中营后代，我其实能穿大多数亚洲码衣服，尽管比普通亚洲人高 10cm。
It's just that in the west and in India people are fat and never exercise besides "body building" that makes them look even more deformed.
只是西方和印度的人都很胖，除了「健美」从不锻炼，显得更畸形。
>>109796294
If someone consdiers themselves a nerd but fails to qualify as formally insane or isn't intelligent enough to fit with normies then it's all fully deserved.
如果有人自认 Nerd，却又没疯到需要正式诊断、智力也不足以融入 Normal 人，那一切苦难都是活该。
>>109795749
What is your actual job? Like the one you do, instead of imagining?
你真实的工作是什么？就是你真干的那份，不是想象中的那份？
>>109798166
You are the reason all software everywhere is bloated to high heaven and more broken than your own buck.
全世界软件都臃肿上天、比你自己的破产还破，你正是原因。
>>109798235
kek
>>109798199
Claims software is
一边宣称软件是
>Bloated
But also makes threads that
一边又开帖搞
>Linux is hostile design because it requires cli and doesn't support your niche ux method of d&d files into image editors icon on a taskbar without realising that such thing needs to be coded and constitues "bloat"
>「Linux 是敌意设计，因为它要求命令行，不支持你那个小众交互——把文件拖到任务栏上图片编辑器图标——还没意识到这种东西需要专门写码、本身就是『臃肿』」
as opposed to super lightweight
跟「超级轻量」对着干
>windows 95 era software that could open files only by menu and if you thought about doing something in wrong order the software crashed burning your gpu powered by physical switches for modesetting and color range.
>Win95 时代的软件只能靠菜单开文件，操作顺序一错软件直接崩，烧掉你那靠物理开关做模式切换和色域设置的 GPU。
Taking g sérieux for auch opinion would be insane.
把这种看法当真才叫疯了。（法语腔）
>>109798285
>arab
>retarded
Checks out
没毛病。
rise and grind techies
起床开卷，科技佬们
https://leetcode.com/problems/maximum-score-of-non-overlapping-intervals
>>109798469
i have not and will not use leetcode
我没用过也绝不会用 LeetCode
>>109798477
and that is why you will remain low TC
所以你会一直低总包
>>109798482
sorry but i dont respect the opinion of someone without a skincare routine
抱歉，我不尊重没有护肤流程的人的观点
>>109798482
i think i am pretty high tc for 0yoe
我觉得以 0 年经验来说我总包挺高
>>109798482
I make 130k gbp while not located in the uk or subject to uk tax laws.
我拿 13 万英镑，但人不在英国也不受英国税法管辖。
I took my net and then checked how much I would need gross in USD in california to make that same amount net. The answer is $170,112.00
我算了下我的税后净额，再算加州税前要多少美元才能拿到同样的净额。答案是 $170,112.00
I am in a EU country that's not too expensive (but not very cheap either) by the way. Full remote.
顺便我在一个不算贵（但也不便宜）的欧盟国家。全远程。
So, pretty good shit overall. 5 yoe + PhD.
所以，整体挺不错。5 年经验 + 博士。
Should I just kill myself since I'll never be able to find a tech job
既然永远找不到科技工作，我干脆自杀算了
>>109799370
just get a non-tech job and try to make the jump from there?
先找个非科技工作，再从那儿跳过去？
>>109800175
Jump where? I'm not aware of any well-paying job that I have the skills for
跳到哪？我不记得自己有任何高薪工作所需的技能
>>109800175
For the love of God do not do this. You will get pigeonholed in a purgatory of mediocrity always being looked down on and living in the shadow of what you deluded yourself into thinking you should be. Either get the tech job you actually want, die trying, or give up entirely and find something else, but never ever think that you just need to put your head down and do your time until the light finally decides to shine down on you. That will never happen and you will grow old and bald in mediocre hell.
看在上帝份上千万别。你会被困在平庸炼狱里，永远被看低，活在你自欺以为「本该成为的自己」的阴影下。要么去拿你真正想要的科技工作，要么死在半路，要么彻底放弃另寻出路，但永远永远别想着「先低头干着，等光 finally 照到我头上」。那天不会来，你会在平庸地狱里变老变秃。
>>109800231
This. I made the mistake of doing that and I am stuck in said purgatory.
就是这样。我就是犯了这个错，被困在那个炼狱里。
>>109800208
I was thinking of a job selling shit in whatever big retail store you can find
我想的是随便找家大零售店卖货
some big companies offer internal transfers, but trying to do that wouldn't be easier than just applying externally if you don't have relevant experience.
一些大公司提供内部转岗，但如果你没有相关经验，走内部转岗并不比直接外部投递容易。
you could also try joining some small boomer or non-tech company and try to convince your boss or whatever by bragging to them about your tech skills.
你也可以试试加入小型的老年人或非科技公司，靠吹嘘你的技术本事说服你老板之类的人。
but I guess >>109800231 is right, you won't be able to make the jump.
不过 >>109800231 说得对，你跳不过去。
>>109799370
do zoomers not realize that there are more middle class careers than just tech?
Zoomer 是不是不知道除了科技还有很多中产职业？
zoomers will cripple themselves financially chasing a worthless degree in an industry with way too many people, and then post depressive pussy shit like this. they only took up CS because theyre addicted to the internet and the courses were all online.
Zoomer 会为了一个在严重过剩行业里一文不值的学位把自己 financially 搞残，然后发这种抑郁哭唧唧的帖子。他们选 CS 只因为网瘾加课程全在线。
it's still easy to find a tech job if you're actually good btw
顺便说，你要是真有实力，科技工作还是好找的
>>109800682
this is really true
这话千真万确
>>109800682
this, 95% of candidates are dogshit though lol
对，虽然 95% 的候选人都是垃圾 哈哈
in fact i'd argue if you are actually skilled the job market is actually better now than 5-10 years ago
实际上我敢说，如果你真有技术，现在的就业市场比 5-10 年前更好
>muh tech jobs
>我那科技工作呀
Stop whining and get a real job, faggots.
别哭唧唧了，去找份正经工作吧基佬们。
>>109800682
the market is hot as fuck atm, esp in big hubs like sf
市场现在热得要命，尤其旧金山这类大枢纽
there's just nobody that needs a crayon eating 0 yoe noobs that just waste your productive people's time
只是没人需要一个啃蜡笔的 0 经验萌新浪费有生产力的人的时间
>>109800715
all double digit iqs who "learned to code" for an easy cheque getting a reality check now
一帮双位数 IQ 靠「学编程」混轻松支票的家伙，现在正被现实打脸
>>109792402
Instant boner alert!!!!
瞬间勃起警报！！！！
>>109800749
as someone with -1 yoe (i graduate next year) the market is still hot
作为一个 -1 年经验的人（我明年毕业），市场还是很热
>>109800771
yeah the market will be dominated by actual computer scientists
对，市场终将被真正的计算机科学家主导
>>109800619
Their offers are very often bullshit. Like when I worked at M$, they claimed a perk is they'd pay for my studies. It was directly related to upward moves which was their implied condition (but of course they don't say it outright). When I wanted to make due on this they said nope. It's the same with internal moves which they also promised was totally doable. The truth is you are entirely on your own to play politics and find a lead who'll take you somewhere.
他们的福利经常是屁。比如我在微软工作时，他们说福利之一是付我读书的钱。这跟晋升直接挂钩，是他们心照不宣的前提（当然不会明说）。我想兑现时他们说不行。内部转岗也一样，他们承诺过完全可以办到。真相是：你完全得靠自己玩政治、找个愿意带你的 lead。
>>109800827
Nobody cares for the opinion of students mate
没人 care 学生的意见，兄弟
>>109800771
They're the only ones still getting hired
他们可是唯一还在被录用的人
>>109800702
Bad b8, 99% of people who have a stable career couldn't hello world their way out of a paperbag, meanwhile people who are actually competent are constantly under or unemployed. It's been the case since the MBAs took over.
烂钓鱼。99% 有稳定职业的人连 hello world 都写不明白，而真正有本事的人却一直半失业或失业。MBA 接管以后就这样。
>>109800827
>>109800749
>>109800715
i r8 this b8 a 0/8 m8
这钩子我评 0/8 老铁
>>109800827
>yeah the market will be dominated by actual computer scientists
>对，市场终将被真正的计算机科学家主导
nah
nobody's getting hired because the signal is gone. colleges are now young adult daycares and have been almost worthless for years now, >bootcamps, now ai made your polished github portfolio worthless because everybody can generate a project that looks reasonable in 10 minutes
没人被录用，因为信号消失了。大学现在就是成人幼儿园，多年来几乎一文不值，>训练营，现在 AI 又让你精心打磨的 GitHub 作品集变得毫无价值，因为谁都能 10 分钟生成一个看起来像样的项目
it's why nepotism is back in force. know somebody who will vouch for you? then you get in. replying to ai generated adverts by the dozen every day? good luck
所以裙带关系卷土重来。有愿意为你背书的人？你就能进。每天批量回复 AI 生成的招聘广告？祝你好运
>>109800841
i have a good grad offer so i'm jchillin
我拿到不错的应届 offer，正在躺平（jchillin）
>>109800854
>>109800855
maybe this is the case in saas or consulting or whatever
也许 SaaS 或咨询之类是这样
>>109800863
Good for you but keep your stupid opinions till you have more experience
替你高兴，但等你多点经验再说你这蠢意见
>>109800869
i am just observing the state of the market from the perspective of me and my classmates
我只是从我和同学的视角观察市场现状
>>109800855
>nobody's getting hired because the signal is gone
>没人被录用，因为信号消失了
funnily enough we seem to be going back to headhunting and referrals in our hiring because the ai slopnado made hiring almost impossible
有趣的是我们招聘好像正回到猎头和内推模式，因为 AI 垃圾风暴让招聘几乎没法做
idk about the interviews in detail but we were fully remote in 2024 and now half of it is on site because everybody cheats
面试细节我不清楚，但我们 2024 年全远程，现在一半改现场了，因为人人都作弊
>>109800855
>>109800887
onsite technicals are the future
现场技术面才是未来
>>109800884
Hehe maybe I overreacted you're ok kid
嘿嘿也许我反应过度了，你没问题的孩子
>>109800863
What is the case? Also consulting hasn't existed in over 10 years now. Even long-time boomer consultant have to use placement agencies because companies don't directly contract anymore.
「情况」指什么？另外咨询行业 10 多年前就没了。连资深老年顾问都得靠派遣中介，因为公司不再直接签约了。
>>109800887
It's not the ai slopnado making hiring almost impossible, it's HR making finding employment impossible by rejecting perfect fits because 70% of job postings are actually fake and HR wouldn't know a dream candidate if it raped her crusty ass.
让招聘几乎没法做的不是 AI 垃圾风暴，是 HR 让找工作变不可能：他们拒掉完美匹配的人选，因为 70% 的招聘帖其实是假的，而且 HR 就是梦幻候选人强上她那把老皱屁股也认不出来。
>>109800895
grazie
>>109800904
>what is the case
>「情况」指什么
the thing about nepotism or the market being shit or w/e
裙带关系、市场烂还是什么的那个说法
The obsession with leetcode is annoying. If you're intelligent yourself you should be able to tell when someone you're interviewing is in the ballpark. They have a verifiable resume/education, you can talk to and pick at their understanding and style, then you give them a chance, I really don't get this insistence on making sure the stupid ass math puzzle colosseum continues to be a big factor.
对 LeetCode 的执念很烦。如果你自己够聪明，面试时就应该能判断对方在不在水平区间内。他们有可验证的简历/学历，你可以聊、可以戳他们的理解力和风格，然后给个机会。我真不懂非要让那座蠢数学谜题斗兽场继续当重要因素。
>>109800891
Onsite everything is the future. The usual meet & greet that could be found online is almost entirely gone, all that's left is trash like orange reddit that is barely even about technology anymore. It kind of sucks actually, unless you live in one of the tech hubs like SF, London, Seattle (shrinking atm) etc you practically stand no chance unless you have an in by knowing the right people.
所有环节都回到现场才是未来。以前网上能找到的常规社交联络几乎绝迹，剩下的只有橙色 Reddit 这种连科技都算不上的垃圾。挺糟的，除非你住在 SF、伦敦、西雅图（正在萎缩）这类科技枢纽，否则除非认识对的人，你基本没戏。
>>109800887
This. My company froze hiring for a couple of years, and when return to office came up, they started hiring again. We lost a lot of good people in the continuous layoffs, but they're starting to come back as the company finally pulled its head out of its ass and realized people that actually knew our processes and workflow, as well as just general knowledge of who was who etc. was worth way more than trying to hire some retard for 75% off that will take at least a year just to get 'adjusted' to the environment.
就是这样。我们公司冻结招聘几年，重返办公室之后又开始招了。持续裁员流失了很多好人，但公司终于把头从屁股里拔出来，意识到真正懂我们流程和工作流、认识谁是谁的人，比雇一个打 75 折的弱智（光适应环境就得至少一年）值钱多了。
>>109800910
>HR making finding employment impossible by rejecting
>是 HR 让找工作变不可能：他们拒掉
Our HR doesn't contact new hires, that's the manager's job. I've never even interacted with 'HR', been here over five years.
我们 HR 不接触新人，那是经理的事。我在这儿五年多了，从没跟「HR」打过交道。
>>109800910
It's also because they want women or jeets and the interview are just an excuse to say they found no suitable candidate
还有是因为他们想要女人或印度佬，面试只是「没找到合适人选」的借口
>>109800912
>the thing about nepotism or the market being shit or w/e
>裙带关系、市场烂还是什么的那个说法
That's the case absolutely everywhere, not at all limited to saas.
哪儿都一样，完全不限于 SaaS。
>>109800924
>It's also because they want women
>还有是因为他们想要女人
not a thing anymore
现在没这回事了
>or jeets
>或印度佬
your own fault for giving a jeet the ability to pick hires, they were always going to pick another jeet 100% of the time
让印度佬有招聘决定权是你自己的错，他们 100% 永远会选另一个印度佬
>>109800927
doesn't seem to be the case in my experience
就我的经验来看不是这样
>>109800917
i prefer onsite stuff so i'm fine with that. i am also in the minority that prefers working in the office
我本来就偏好现场，所以无所谓。我也是偏好坐办公室的少数派
>>109800922
>Our HR doesn't contact new hires, that's the manager's job. I've never even interacted with 'HR', been here over five years.
>我们 HR 不接触新人，那是经理的事。我在这儿五年多了，从没跟「HR」打过交道。
But your manager only knows about new hires if HR forwards their profiles to him. Profile goes in through ATS configured by HR to screen for a bunch of crap that's unrelated to the job, also uses bullshit meme ai filtering. Then it goes to HR who further manually filter. Only what survives goes to your manager. That's how it works in virtually all orgs. The only difference I've ever seen is in smaller orgs where you have no HR, but then they use external recruiters who do the exact same thing.
但你经理只有收到 HR 转来的简历才知道有新人。简历先进 ATS，那是 HR 配置的，按一堆跟工作无关的东西筛，还用脑残梗 AI 过滤。然后到 HR 手里再人工筛。只有幸存者才会到你经理那。几乎所有组织都这么运作。我见过的唯一区别是小型组织没有 HR，但他们会用外包猎头干一模一样的事。
>>109800944
>doesn't seem to be the case in my experience
>就我的经验来看不是这样
Because you're a nepobaby and want to believe you got a job because you were competent? Lol pajeet.
因为你是裙带宝宝，想相信你拿到工作是因为你有能力？哈哈印度阿三。
Stop conflating all companies obviously the process is different in my 150k people gigaglobohomocorp than in a small 10 man startup
别把所有公司混为一谈，我那 15 万人的巨型全球同恐企业跟 10 人小创业公司流程当然不同
>>109800957
no one in my family works in tech or white collar at all but believe what you want. maybe apply to better companies that will treat you fairly
我家里没人干科技或白领，你爱信不信。也许你该投些对你公平的好公司
there's nothing wrong with external recruiters tho
外包猎头本身没什么问题啊
i just change my linkedin profile (>) to say that i'm looking for a new position and get a bunch of people doing the search for me
我就把 LinkedIn 资料（>）改成「正在看新机会」，就有一大堆人替我搜
>>109800945
>But your manager only knows about new hires if HR forwards their profiles to him.
>但你经理只有收到 HR 转来的简历才知道有新人。
No, he put in the rec, and contacted me direct. Pretty sure our 'HR' is and has been automated prior to my hiring. Never filled out a timesheet, never needed to request PTO, etc.
不，是他提的名，直接联系的我。我敢肯定我们的「HR」在我入职前就已自动化。从没填过工时表，从没请过假审批什么的。
>>109800969
So you are a pajeet and got hired by a pajeet through nepotism, and that's not nepotism because... it just isn't ok.
所以你是印度阿三，被另一个印度阿三走裙带招进来，而这不算裙带因为……就是不算，行。
>>109800975
>timesheet
>2026
>lack of timesheet means automated hr
>没有工时表等于 HR 自动化
what in the absolute larp am i reading
我在读的这是哪门子装腔作势
>>109800977
i am irish by ethnicity
我族裔是爱尔兰人
>>109800966
Yeah once they build out an HR department suddenly it becomes a protracted and bespoke ritual
对，一旦他们搭起 HR 部门，招人立刻变成长篇定制仪式
>>109800985
A mouse born in a barn is not a cow, pajeet.
谷仓里出生的老鼠不是牛，印度阿三。
>>109801003
>by ethnicity
>族裔
>>109800975
following up below
楼下接着说
>>109800945
>Profile goes in through ATS configured by HR to screen for a bunch of crap that's unrelated to the job, also uses bullshit meme ai filtering. Then it goes to HR who further manually filter.
>简历先进 ATS，那是 HR 配置的，按一堆跟工作无关的东西筛，还用脑残梗 AI 过滤。然后到 HR 手里再人工筛。
Even if they were using something like Taleo, I would have bypassed it, and this was before AI.
就算他们用的是 Taleo 之类，我也能绕过去，而且那还是 AI 出现之前。
>Only what survives goes to your manager. That's how it works in virtually all orgs. The only difference I've ever seen is in smaller orgs where you have no HR, but then they use external recruiters who do the exact same thing.
>只有幸存者才会到你经理那。几乎所有组织都这么运作。我见过的唯一区别是小型组织没有 HR，但他们会用外包猎头干一模一样的事。
Not the case here, huge international company. It was a direct listing on their company site. I uploaded my resume direct. Was contacted in about a month when they had enough 'potentials'.
这里不是，超大型跨国公司。直接在公司官网挂的职位，我直接传简历。大概一个月后攒够「潜在人选」就联系了我。
>>109800984
Nigga, the company I worked for before this was still using fucking lotus notes because no license fee. IT companies are fucking weird sometimes, and yes, I had to fill out timesheets, request PTO, etc. with them.
黑哥，我上一家公司还在用他妈 Lotus Notes，就因为不用付许可费。IT 公司有时候就是邪门，对，我在那儿也得填工时表、走假审批之类的。
I talk to my boss like three or four times a year, and my manager once a month.
我一年跟老板说三到四次话，跟经理一月一次。
>>109801007
You heard me, pajeet
我说的就是你，印度阿三
>>109801014
>I would have bypassed it
>我也能绕过去
Totally, child.
当然当然，孩子。
Come back when you're no longer 12.
等你过了 12 岁再来。
>>109801017
you don't have to believe me if you don't want
你要是不想信就不信呗
>>109800970
The overwhelming majority of them are complete scum of the earth and absolute scammers for both sides.
绝大多数猎头就是社会渣滓、对两边都是彻头彻尾的骗子。
>>109800966
>unironic NAXALT
>不开玩笑的 NAXALT（不是所有猎头都这样）
take the L
认输吧
>>109801024
>most companies either 3rd party their hiring, or use software like Taleo
>大多数公司要么外包招聘，要么用 Taleo 这类软件
>oh how will I ever bypass this problem
>哎呀我该怎么绕过这个问题呢
Are you fucking retarded?
你是不是有病？
Getting hired 2010-2023 was so fucking easy oh my God LMAO
2010-2023 找工作他妈容易得要命，天哪哈哈
>>109801051
You have never had a job in your life.
你这辈子就没工作过。
>>109800682
this is so true
太真实了
if u cant solve or at least figure out how to solve todays leetcode problem u dont deserve a job btw
顺便说，你要是解不出或至少想不明白怎么解今天的 LeetCode 题，就不配拥有工作
>>109801063
I've had plenty of jobs. Trying to convert to dinduism and get that sweet sweet disability and fucking retire from this shit.
我干过不少工作。我正打算皈依「躺平主义」领那甜美的残障金，从这破事里彻底退休。
>>109801091
Yeah, and internal recs play a huge role if your management isn't completely cucked by this apparent HR menace these faggots are complaining about.
对，而且如果你管理层没被这群基佬抱怨的所谓 HR 威胁彻底阉掉，内部推荐作用巨大。
>>109801107
>just use nepotism to get a job lol
>哈哈靠裙带关系找工作就行了
>nepotism is a real skill
>裙带是真本事
i don't get the fearmongering there does still exist industries in which you can get in by just being good
我不懂这恐慌营销，还是有些行业你光靠实力就能进去
>>109801118
>nepotism
It's actually the opposite of that. You either know what you're doing or you don't. If you don't, you're either a fast learner and problem solver, or you're not.
事实恰好相反。你要么懂自己在干嘛，要么不懂。不懂的话，你要么学得快会解题，要么不是。
Literally two arguments, and the only two arguments, that are required to hire the correct people. A sense of humor helps too, as well as grace.
字面上就这两条论据，也是招对人所需要的仅有的两条论据。有点幽默感也有帮助，再加上点风度。
>but that's not muh experience
>但这不是「我的经验」
because you're a fucking crybaby bitch ass nigger and/or a woman.
因为你是个爱哭的贱逼黑鬼，或者是个女人。
>>109801142
>cucking dicks and getting reference as a result instead of being competent is a skill and is not nepotism
>抱大腿换来背书而不是靠能力，这算本事不算裙带
The absolute state
真是绝了
>>109801158
The reference is based on experience working with said potential new hire, from a trusted source, who is also part of the project/team.
背书基于跟该潜在新同事共事的经历，来自可信来源，而且这人也是项目/团队的一员。
Are you the HR boogiewoman? Fuckingkillyourselfsubhumanretard
你是 HR 恐怖大妈吗？去他妈自杀吧低等弱智
>hey, why bother with hiring people we know can do the job? Just spin le roullete wheel from the blue haired HR thing
>嘿，何必招我们认识的、能干活的人呢？转那个蓝发 HR 转盘吧
yeah, fuck you
对，去你的
if your company has HR make hiring decisions instead of technical people your are ngmi
如果你的公司让 HR 而不是技术人员做招聘决定，你就死定了
>try to get someone we know and trust hired at my gigaglobohomocorp
>试着把认识且信任的人塞进我的巨型全球同恐企业
>HR says no because "he's too old" (30)
>HR 说不行因为「他太老了」（30 岁）
love it
爱了
>>109801140
Oh really? Which ones?
哦是吗？哪些行业？
>>109801184
FUCK
you*
>>109801192
That's a lawsuit, if you have proof. HINT HINT EXIT STRAT
有证据的话这是能打官司的。暗示暗示：跑路策略
>>109801196
HFT would be the obvious answer. probably defense too
HFT（高频交易）是显而易见的答案。国防大概也算
>>109800827
then post belongs in utwg??
那这帖该发到 /utwg/？？
>>109801172
Kek.
Least delusional neporetard.jpg
最不清醒的裙带弱智.jpg
its literally 2d dp + binary search, u SHOULD be able to solve this
这就是二维动态规划+二分查找，你应该会做
>>109801196
Anything high risk. Anything that needs a security clearance. Anything that needs you to lift something more than a finger. Hell, you can make more planting fucking trees in the mountains in some states. Literally walking around all day with a shovel and a bag of shit that takes five seconds to scoop, plant and cover. Firemen make six figures. These jobs are always in demand.
一切高风险的活。需要安全审查的活。需要你搬起超过一根手指重量的活。老天，在有些州上山种树都比这赚得多。字面意义上整天扛着铁锹和一袋苗，五秒挖坑栽种埋土。消防员拿六位数。这些活永远缺人。
If you can't figure out how to do one of these when times are rough, then I don't want to work with you when times are good.
时局艰难的时候你都想不出干这些，那好年景我也不想跟你共事。
>>109801214
Some of the people here are fucking drones man.
这楼里有些人真是他妈的机器人。
>>109801204
HFT is purely about being from oxford. They literally don't even give OA to anyone else. Recruiters in the domain are also well aware of that and often discuss it. It's the opposite of a meritocracy from the onset. The only alternative way is to work at a company that gets acquired by an hft firm.
HFT 纯粹看出身牛津。他们字面上连笔试都不给别人发。这领域的猎头也心知肚明，经常聊这事。从起点上就是精英主义的反面。唯一的替代路径是去一家会被 HFT 公司收购的公司。
Defense I don't know but I've been told on the internet (unlike the above case where I have direct knowledge and good visibility through people I know) that it's entirely about politics. It would be amazingly surprising if it wasn't, given the nature of defense contracts, and the overall competence of people there (namely, the absence thereof).
国防我不了解，但网上（不像上面那事我有直接了解和熟人视野）说那完全靠政治。要是不是那样才叫惊天地泣鬼神，想想国防合同的性质，和那里人员的整体水平（确切说：没有水平）。
>>109801227
stop the delusion
别做梦了
tech salaries are ridiculous
科技工资就是离谱
>>109801226
solving leetcode is literally for unemployed you SHOULD be able to solve where that thread is
刷 LeetCode 纯粹是失业者的功课，你应该能解出那个帖子在哪一层
>>109801227
Firemen are 100% about nepotism. Have you actually tried? They have a old boys club kinda thing going and generally speaking, you can only become one if your dad is one or if he knows someone who became a firefighter and induces you this way etc.
消防员 100% 靠裙带。你真试过吗？他们有个老男孩俱乐部那一套，一般来说只有你爸是消防员、或者他认识成为消防员的人并引荐你，你才能进。
Do you even know what "get in by just being good" even means? By definition nobody is going to "get in by being good at firefighting" since that requires already having fought fires somehow.
你知道「光靠实力就能进」是什么意思吗？按定义没人能「光靠擅长消防就进」，因为那要求你已经在某处灭过火。
Planting trees has a skill ladder? No every retard off the street can do it.
种树还有技能阶梯？不，街上随便一个智障都能干。
Do you even read? What the fuck is this post even.
你会读字吗？这帖子到底是什么玩意。
>>109801228
i don't know why you think they aren't meritocratic when a lot of money rides on them having the best talent (especially in a zero-sum game like MM/HFT)
我不懂你为什么觉得它们不看绩效，几十亿的钱押在他们拥有最好的人才上（尤其在 MM/HFT 这种零和游戏里）
>They literally don't even give OA to anyone else
>他们字面上连笔试都不给别人发
categorically false
彻头彻尾的假
t. currently at one
t. 我现在就在其中一家
I'm an EE so if I were desperate I could probably work as an electrician, but I would need to take a month or two to train myself first
我是电子工程师，真走投无路大概能转电工，但得先花一两个月自我训练
>>109801228
Defense is usally pretty good if you're not one of the scumbags in upper level management.
国防行业通常还不错，只要你不是上层管理里那些败类。
>>109801233
They don't 'work' a normal schedule, and that should be accounted for. Annual salary also doesn't account for any overtime or hazard pay.
他们的排班不是正常作息，这点该算进去。年薪也没算加班费和危险津贴。
>>109801243
any retard can carry a hose and put out a fire you delusional faggot.
随便哪个智障都能扛水龙头灭火，你个妄想的基佬。
>>109801250
>t. currently at one
>t. 我现在就在其中一家
The memes write themselves holy kek
梗自己把自己写好了，天哪哈哈
Your whole post is all the demonstration I need to prove my case.
你整条帖子就够我证明我的论点了。
>>109801253
>any retard can carry a hose and put out a fire you delusional faggot.
>随便哪个智障都能扛水龙头灭火，你个妄想的基佬。
That's what I said, inbred. So you don't "just get in by being good".
我说的就是这个，近亲产物。所以你没办法「光靠实力就能进」。
>>109801258
and i got in from a pretty unknown university from eastern europe. your point being?
而我就是从东欧一所相当没名的大学进去的。所以呢？
>>109801251
If you get licensed, you make the rules/code enforcement. You can be shit at your job and still succeed because you make the rules, which are based on YOUR interpretation of said rules.
只要你拿到执照，规则/执法就由你定。你工作再烂也能成功，因为规则就是你定的，而规则基于你对规则的解释。
>>109801270
Well, if you can't carry someone, or a ladder, or walk up a fucking hill, then I guess YOU ARE NOT QUALIFIED YOU FUCKING FAT FAGGOT
行吧，如果你扛不动一个人、扛不动梯子、走不上一个破坡，那我猜你就是不合格，你这死肥基佬
>>109801253
This is total BLS earnings, not salary dumb schizo
这是 BLS（劳工统计局）总收入，不是工资，蠢精分
>>109801281
>backpedaling that hard
>倒车倒得这么猛
Take the L, professional retard.
认输吧，职业弱智。
>>109800833
>Their offers are very often bullshit
>他们的福利经常是屁
anon, things change over time. my employer offered me a lot of benefits that they removed after the pandemic.
老哥，事过境迁。我雇主当年给过一堆福利，疫情后全删了。
>It's the same with internal moves which they also promised was totally doable. The truth is you are entirely on your own to play politics
>内部转岗也一样，他们承诺过完全可以办到。真相是：你完全得靠自己玩政治
also, yes, sometimes moving might require playing politics. sometimes you don't need that shit. big companies are big, teams don't even talk to one each other.
另外，对，有时候转岗确实要玩政治。有时候不用那套。大公司很大，团队之间连话都不说。
I'm not american. I assume things might be way harder now due to all the rampant indian nepotism, but I wouldn't assume it's like that everywhere.
我不是美国人。我猜现在因为印度裙带横行会难得多，但我不认为哪儿都这样。
>>109800682
yup.
but you have to prove your worth to other people in the first place. that's what networking helps with.
但你首先得向别人证明你的价值。人脉的作用正在于此。
most retards here seem to be either socially isolated shut-ins or worse than mediocre.
这里的智障大多要么社交孤立宅家里，要么比平庸还差。
so glad i dont have to bitch about the tech job market anymore (im set for life lol)
太高兴我不用再抱怨科技就业市场了（我这辈子稳了 哈哈）
>>109801271
That you are repeating my point with additional live-acted evidence of my argument that there is no meritocratic component whatsoever to HFT.
你这是在重复我的观点，还额外附送了一段现场表演，证明 HFT 根本没有任何绩效成分。
>>109801282
Show me a fireman that works more than three days a week. Four max.
给我找一个一周工作超过三天的消防员。最多四天。
>>109801290
on what?
依据什么？
>>109801296
>had strong projects on my resume
>简历上有拿得出手的项目
>pass the OA
>过了笔试
>did good on the interview
>面试表现好
>got in
>拿到了
explain what is unmeritocratic about this
解释一下这哪里不绩效
every time i do leetcode i feel a part of my soul dying
每次刷 LeetCode 我都觉得灵魂又死了一块
>>109801118
>>109801214
>nepotism is when people you've worked for help you find other jobs or act as your reference
>裙带就是跟你共事过的人帮你找下一份工作或给你当背书
nepotism means FAMILY OR PEOPLE WHO HAVE CLOSE NON-PROFESSIONAL TIES give you a job
裙带的意思是「家人或有紧密非职业关系的人」给你工作
this board is so fucking retarded. I wonder if half the "people" here are students, underage retards or actually mentally deficient.
这板子他妈弱智透顶。我怀疑这儿一半的「人」是学生、未成年弱智或真有智力缺陷。
how do people not understand that EVERYTHING is a social process, and that YOUR PEERS ARE THE ONES THAT WILL JUDGE YOUR SKILLS?
人们怎么就不明白一切都是社会过程，评判你技能的正是你的同行？
>>109801332
>ah yes back to grinding and practicing something that I've never had to do once in 10+ years of professional software
>啊对，回去刷题吧，刷我这 10 多年专业软件生涯里一次都没用过的东西
>>109801302
It's hilarious, every time you post you prove my point.
笑死，你每发一帖都在证明我的观点。
>>109801338
Wrong. here is the definition:
错。这是定义：
>Nepotism is the unfair practice of people in power giving jobs, promotions, or other advantages to their family members or close friends instead of choosing people based on skill or merit
>裙带主义是当权者把工作、晋升或其他好处不公平地给予家庭成员或密友，而不是按技能或能力选人
Now take your meds, schizo.
现在把药吃了，精分。
>bellend thinks there is any relation whatsoever between references and skills, ever
>龟头 believed 背书和技能之间任何时候有任何关系
>>109801338
wait until you tell them that calling someone a nigger isn't really racist, yet in the UK you can be put in jail for posting on facebook or saying 'fanny'. Clown world.
等你告诉他们：叫人黑鬼其实不算种族歧视，但在英国你在 Facebook 发帖或说句 fanny 都能进监狱。小丑世界。
I want to know why noone is clammering for AI to be used for the police, just to tell them how to read the fucking constitution, because most of them don't even understand basic rights according to all the bodycam footage that the retards voted for.
我想知道为什么没人嚷嚷让 AI 去教警察读他妈宪法，因为从那些弱智投票选出来的执法记录仪录像看，他们大多连基本权利都不懂。
Any project manager in here? how's it looking?
有项目经理在这儿吗？情况怎么样？
>>109801338
Awwww is the nepobaby crying again? There there, I'm sure daddy will help you with this one, too.
呜呜呜裙带宝宝又哭了？没事没事，我确定这次爸爸也会帮你。
>>109801410
i'd rather be a nepobaby than a poorfag
我宁愿当裙带宝宝也不想当穷逼
>>109801235
I'm employed doe
不过我有工作
>>109801396
Survived the last three or four 're-orgs'. Current problem is lack of funds, blew out the budget, so not a lot of work is scheduled for this quarter. Nice breather, just planning on shit for next year. If you don't know the technical aspect of whatever project you're doing, plan to get cut. It's basically babysitting these days, and explaning to review boards why their shit plan won't work.
挺过了最近三四次「组织重组」。现在的问题是缺钱，预算爆了，这季度排期不多。喘口气，就在规划明年的事。你要是不懂项目的技术面，就等着被裁。现在这活基本是哄孩子，外加向评审委员会解释他们的烂计划为什么行不通。
only 2 more days until I gotta go to the office on monday and say with a straight face "happy monday harshit, how was your weekend?"
还有两天就得去办公室，板着脸说「周一愉快 Harshit（印度名），周末过得怎么样？」
>>109801391
>unfair practice of people in power giving jobs, promotions, or other advantages to their family members or close friends
>当权者把工作、晋升或其他好处不公平地给予家庭成员或密友
do you have reading comprehension issues? that's exactly what I said.
你有阅读理解障碍？我说的就是这个。
oh, you think you go to work to make friends? do you really think only friends can recommend you or act as references? how fucking socially isolated, insecure and pathetic are you?
哦，你以为上班是为了交朋友？你真觉得只有朋友才能推荐你、给你背书？你到底社交孤立、不自信、可悲到什么程度？
>>109801410
shut up retarded troll
闭嘴弱智钓鱼的
>>109801415
nta, but I was a poorfag. joining a group of people with similar interests and showing my skills to them and will to improve helped me land a job.
不是楼主，但我曾是穷逼。加入一个兴趣相近的圈子，展示我的技能和提升意愿，帮我找到了工作。
I bet these retards think they are competent and should get a job just because they have a degree... they must feel pretty terrible after wasting so much time on a useless paper thinking it meant something outside academia
我打赌这些弱智觉得自己有能力、就该有工作，只因为有个学位……在废纸上浪费那么多时间、还以为它在学界之外有意义，之后肯定难受死了
crazy how tech is the only sector where if you're 135 iq u can just learn from bootcamps and like build some projects and study for interviews and get a 6 figure job in like 2 years lol
神奇的是科技是唯一一个 135 IQ 的人可以靠训练营、做点项目、准备面试，两年内拿到六位数工作的行业 哈哈
>>109801667
New business idea: nepobaby saltmine.
新商业点子：裙带宝宝血汗矿。
I'm going to be rich.
我要发财了。
>>109801687
If your IQ is 135+ you'll have self-taught in your teens. If you need a bootcamp you won't learn shit because your IQ is capped at 95. As for you personally, your IQ is around 80. Also, bootcamps have always been a scam.
IQ 135+ 的人十几岁就自学成才了。需要训练营的人学不到东西，因为 IQ 封顶 95。至于你本人，IQ 大概 80。另外训练营一直都是骗局。
>>109801687
unc just woke up from a coma still thinking its the 2010s
大叔刚从昏迷中醒来，还以为现在是 2010 年代
>135 iq
lmao people in tech are like 107 iq larping as 130
哈哈科技圈的人 IQ 大概 107，硬装 130
>>109801701
funny bcz my bootcamp was youtube tutorials and stack overflow and wordpress websites and it worked for me
好笑的是我的「训练营」就是 YouTube 教程加 Stack Overflow 加 WordPress 网站，还真成了
i want to die i wish i would've been born a fucking peasant farmer at least then i wouldn't be so humiliated
我想死，真希望自己生下来就是个农民，至少不用这么受辱
My new job is training me in appian and holy shit I could this 50x faster if I was just working with regular web dev tools. This low code shit sucks.
新工作在培训我 Appian，我靠用普通 Web 开发工具我能快 50 倍。这低代码垃圾 sucks。
>>109801753
>>>/g/utwg
>buried utilities are often public record
>地下管线往往是公开记录
>fiber
>?????
you can make a living with a panel van and leasing a fusion splicer if you're not a literal retard. figure out how long the work order process works, and schedule weekend/overtime work. Get paid to watch redzone every week and fuck off for the rest of the time. You're welcome.
只要你不真的是个弱智，靠一辆厢式货车加租一台熔接机就能谋生。搞清楚工单流程怎么走，把周末/加班的活排上。每周拿钱看 Redzone，其他时间躺平。不客气。
>I need more money
>我需要更多钱
well, then work a corporate job during the week or something, and expand your scope and level up by working the legal system and hiding your business like everyone else does.
那工作日去公司上班呗，扩大业务面，像所有人一样钻法律空子、把生意藏好，再升级。
>>109801894
yes, just buy a van and a splicer and your local isp will instantly subcontract to you, certainly
对对，买辆货车买台熔接机本地 ISP 就会立刻分包给你，必须的
>>109801696
>nepobaby saltmine
>裙带宝宝血汗矿
more like useless, jobless CS student saltmine lmao
更像是没用的失业 CS 学生血汗矿 哈哈
>>109801894
yup. there are tons of niche tech jobs where you can make loads of money if you aren't retarded. problems:
对。有大量小众科技岗位，只要你不是弱智就能赚大钱。问题是：
1. getting there (you still need some money and knowledge to connect the dots), and
1. 怎么进去（你仍然需要一些钱和知识来连点成线），以及
2. new grads are retarded and ashamed of doing anything they were not trained for.
2. 应届生是弱智，对任何自己没被培训过的事都觉得丢人。
>>109801948
buy a pressure washer and a lawnmower. easy six figure contracting job. shake the first 100 hands you see.
买台高压清洗机和割草机。轻松六位数的承包生意。见人就握手，前 100 个来者不拒。
#hustletok
>>109801993
depending on where you live this is also a very lucrative job. neighbor does this, writes everything off, and most of the payments are cash. Don't be greedy with the IRS and you'll be fine.
取决于你在哪，这也是很赚钱的行当。我邻居就干这个，全部报税抵扣，大部分收款是现金。别对国税局贪心就没事。
>>109802050
depending on the country, you can also 'hire' your kids, and if structured properly, that's basically free money too
取决于国家，你还可以「雇」你孩子，结构设计得好的话基本等于白捡钱
Sirs, im applying and never get a job. I do have almost 10yoe and yeah, i know about the ghost jobs and so.
先生们，我一直在投简历但拿不到工作。我快 10 年经验了，是的，我知道「幽灵职位」那些事。
I do consider myself strong in the bullshit of design patterns and overall questions. I understand that the jews and golems and crazed by AI and they want some ai enthuasist goy. My last technical interview was a a bullshit price engine project and i did focus a lot on ai driven development during the presentation (one of the reqs was mandatory use of ai) and still failed.
我自认在设计模式这类玄学问答上挺强。我理解犹太人和魔像被 AI 冲昏头，想要个 AI 狂热信徒式的老实人。我上次技术面是个扯淡的定价引擎项目，演示时我已经重点讲了 AI 驱动开发（需求之一就是强制用 AI），照样挂了。
I dont know what to do. I tried focusing on mass applying, tried focusing on learning ai bullshit but im not seeing a way to go, what try next. Like i could spend 4h a day practising leetcode and revising system design, design patterns and so but i dont think i will improve further. Also i could try mass applying for 100 jobs instead of 50 but i also dont see it being useful or efficient.
我不知道该怎么办了。试过海投，试过专攻 AI 玄学，但看不到出路，下一步试什么。我可以每天花 4 小时刷 LeetCode、复习系统设计、设计模式之类，但我觉得不会再有提升。也可以从海投 50 家加码到 100 家，但同样看不出有什么用或效率。
>>109800231
I might be the exception, but it worked out for me. Couldn't get into the field I wanted but found something in an adjacent field, then a few years later an opportunity that combined the two appeared and I turned out to be a good candidate for it. Important to note, though, that you need to have a genuine interest in that adjacent field and not just be using it as a stepping stone to the thing you actually want to do.
我可能是例外，但这条路对我成了。进不去想要的领域，就在相邻领域找了份工作，几年后出现一个两者结合的机会，我恰好成了好候选人。不过要注意，你得对那个相邻领域有真兴趣，而不是只拿它当你真正想干的那件事的垫脚石。
>>109792402
Maybe I should give it all up and be a train conductor. They still have those in America, right?
也许我该全放弃去当火车司机。美国还有这职业吧？
>>109802328
maybe you should move to >>>/g/utwg, because you are a useless retard who can't even find the proper general. no wonder you can't find jobs.
也许你该搬到 >>>/g/utwg 去，因为你是个连对的通用帖都找不到的废物弱智。难怪找不到工作。
>>109802328
>train conductor
>火车司机
are you jewish?
你是犹太人吗？
I can't deal with my Indian co-workers anymore. I can't understand what half of them are saying and the other half are always going in circles. They make really shitty engineers. They're nice people, but they are shit at engineering. One of them replies to my Teams messages with pasted Cursor output. Our product is falling apart.
我受不了我的印度同事了。一半人说的我听不懂，另一半永远在绕圈子。他们是很烂的工程师。人是好人，但工程水平是垃圾。有一个回我 Teams 消息直接贴 Cursor 的输出。我们的产品正在散架。
>>109802481
But I have a job. I don't like it, but it pays well and there aren't many Indians.
可我有工作啊。不喜欢，但工资不错，印度人也不多。
>>109802521
Shana Tova.
新年快乐（Shana Tova）。
>10k/yr extra
>每年多 1 万美元
>but one of your coworkers becomes indian
>但你的一个同事变成印度人
how much extra are you choosing?
你愿意再加多少？
>>109802780
10000 more indians, work one year, retire
再加 1 万个印度人，干一年，退休
>>109801390
None of those quadrants are true for me
那几个象限对我一个都不成立
>>109802785
>only gora at the company of 10,000 jeets
>一万印度佬公司里唯一的白人
>get laid off after a day
>入职一天就被裁
monkey paw
猴爪
>engineering lead starts hammering down on AI usage
>工程主管开始严打 AI 使用
>50% of work now being offshored as KPI
>50% 的工作按 KPI 转移到离岸
>not even a tech company (engineering consultancy)
>还不是科技公司（工程咨询公司）
Not even traditional engineering jobs can escape the clutches of AI
连传统工程岗都逃不出 AI 的魔爪
>>109801390
None of those are true.
那些一个都不成立。
>>109794443
>which is about where people are picking up this manufactured personality from
>也就是人们从哪学来这种人造人格
from the society they live in
从他们生活的社会
>>109798285
based knower
based 的明白人
>>109800231
I'll always hate my manager, it doesnt matter.
我永远恨我的经理，无所谓。
If I get paid 6 figures and do fuck all, great.
只要拿六位数工资啥也不干，那就美滋滋。
Every job I've had has been pointless.
我干过的每份工作都毫无意义。
t. data engineer, software engineer, coop student, bi developer, soup kitchen volunteer
t. 数据工程师、软件工程师、实习生、BI 开发、施粥场志愿者
fuck it all
去他妈的一切
all that matters is good sex, food, hobbies to self improve, and being physically healthy
重要的只有好性、好饭、能自我提升的爱好，和身体健康
fuck everything else.
其他全是屁。
>>109792402
enjoying the weekend, /twg/?
周末享受着呢，/twg/？
>>109803308
I'm on two weeks holiday :)
我正在放两周假 :)
>>109803308
nothing to do the rest of the year but check email three times a day three times a week. Thanks for checking in I guess.
今年剩下的日子没活干，一周查三次邮箱、一次查三封。谢谢你的关心吧。
>>109803308
>watched harry potter with girl
>跟妹子看了哈利波特
>found out she isnt pregnant
>发现她没怀孕
>ai psychosis for 4 hours
>AI 精神病发作 4 小时
>walk in the sun with girl
>跟妹子在阳光下散步
>consistently land shuvits while moving, a first for me
>滑行中稳定落地 Shuvit，对我来说是第一次
>ate some canned tuna + onions
>吃了罐金枪鱼 + 洋葱
>currently compiling llamacpp and watching jap idol group shoegaze concerts
>一边编译 llamacpp 一边看日本偶像团的盯鞋演出
it's going great
日子好得很
give it to me straight bros, is the american empire crumbling? i feel that the combined pressure from the oil war, the us ai valuation bubble, and uncontrolled inflation will cause a black swan event that will totally fuck us over.
兄弟们跟我直说，美帝国在崩吗？我感觉石油战争、美国 AI 估值泡沫和失控通胀加起来的压力会引爆一只彻底干死我们的黑天鹅。
be honest with me, should i unironically start learning chinese?
跟我说实话，我该不开玩笑地去学中文吗？
>>109794672
>worlds least neurotic bi cyclist
>世界最不神经质的双性自行车党
>>109804000
>be honest with me, should i unironically start learning chinese?
>跟我说实话，我该不开玩笑地去学中文吗？
kek, no. China is kinda fucked right now, same shit the commies do every time.
哈哈，不。中国现在也挺完蛋的，共产党每次都这套。
The other stuff you're worried about doesn't really affect the US that much at the end of the day, Korea, Singapore, Taiwan and Japan are holding the bag.
你担心的其他事归根结底对美国影响没那么大，韩国、新加坡、台湾和日本在接盘。
>>109804000
you should have learned chinese some 20 years ago
你 20 年前就该学中文了
>>109804000
I'm hsk 4 ama
我 HSK 4 了，随便问
>>109792402
I can see their toes.
我能看见她们的脚趾。
>>109804119
do you use the language on a regular basis, do you feel that it was worth investing the time into learning it? how long did it take you to get from zero to HSK 2? any recommendations for learning materials and apps?
你日常用这门语言吗？觉得投入时间学它值得吗？从零到 HSK 2 花了多久？学习材料和 App 有推荐吗？
>>109793206
>just move to a depopulating shithole country full of arrogant passive-aggressive pensioners who treat you like shit and pay you dirt
>直接搬去一个人口流失的破国家，那里全是傲慢、阴阳怪气的退休老人，把你当屎、付你土
no lmao
不去 哈哈
>>109793206
>Be American
>当美国人
>Make six figures doing cushy tech work with free lunch and snacks and other perks
>干着舒坦的科技工作拿六位数，免费午餐零食和一堆福利
>Move to Japan
>搬去日本
>Make 45k at some black company that forces you to work 12 hour days and drink with your boomer boss at best or be an "English teacher" at worst
>进黑心公司拿 4.5 万美元，天天被迫干 12 小时还得陪老年老板喝酒，最差情况去当「英语老师」
No thanks
免了谢谢
>>109804156
>do you use the language on a regular basis
>你日常用这门语言吗
no
>do you feel that it was worth investing the time into learning it?
>觉得投入时间学它值得吗？
Yes, its a good hobby. And it is useful when I'm in Japan or elsewhere in Asia. The characters are everywhere.
值得，是个好爱好。而且我在日本或亚洲其他地方时很有用。汉字到处都是。
>how long
>花了多久
I'm inconsistent with studying, several months. Its not hard at all, just look at the characters.
我学习不规律，好几个月。一点都不难，看看汉字就行。
>recs
literally just google translate.
字面意义上就 Google 翻译。
then some YouTube
然后一些 YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9zGgSfBAHE
this Nicole girl when you're more comfy with basics
等你熟悉基础了就看这个 Nicole 小姐姐
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RayUEJJGVMQ
get to hsk 2 and then decide if you should quit
到 HSK 2 再决定要不要放弃
>>109804230
thanks, anon. she cute
谢了老哥，她好可爱
>>109804000
china is the elephant in the room but nobody really likes china. China is russia in 100 years. We're basically always going to be top dog. but there is going to be a ~40 year window where China takes Taiwan back (think crimea)
中国是房间里的大象但没人真喜欢中国。中国是 100 年后的俄罗斯。我们基本永远会是老大。但会有一个约 40 年的窗口期中国收复台湾（想想克里米亚）
>>109804245
没关系啊 现在你没有任何借口了
>>109804277
>>109804331
>>109801722
>youtube tutorials
>YouTube 教程
IQ cap: 65.
IQ 封顶：65。
>>109804000
china is even more fucked and telling people you know chinese is a recipe for getting the most hellish jobs in the world while being severely underpaid.
中国更完蛋，而且告诉别人你会中文，等于给自己招全世界最地狱的工作还严重低薪。
>>109804000
You already know the answer deep inside your heart.
答案你心底早就知道。
>>109792911
>electricity/electronics
They're starting to get good at CAD now.
他们现在 CAD（计算机辅助设计）也变强了。
>>109793167
Get drunk and pay camgirls to watch me jerk off.
喝醉了付钱给镜头妹看我撸。
>>109800631
The issue is that I don't have any other skills
问题是我没有任何其他技能
>>109800631
Which ones? Finance, management, business, medicine... that's about it. Everything else is fucked. And you can't do medicine unless you're rich, there are multiple peer-reviewed articles and personal anecdotes documenting significant bias in the interview process as well as during the course, where non-richfags are getting severely bullied in an attempt to get them to drop out of medschool if they even make it past the interview stage. Finance is about getting into the right school, nothing else matters and you can't pivot to it if you went to the "wrong school". Have a PhD from the best lab in your specialty in the entire world in a quantitative discipline? Fuck you, that wasn't harvard or oxford so you won't even get an oa.
哪些？金融、管理、商科、医学……大概就这些。其他全完蛋。而医学，你不富就别想，有多篇同行评审文章和亲身经历记录了面试环节和整个学习过程中的严重偏见：非富家子弟哪怕过了面试，也会被严重霸凌、逼你从医学院退学。金融就是进对学校，其他都不重要，进了「错误的学校」就别想转行。你在本专业全世界最好的实验室拿了量化方向的博士？操你的，那不是哈佛或牛津，你连笔试都拿不到。
Business is hit or miss and again depends on what school you went to, however unlike the other options you can do an MBA at any moment. Just make sure not to take an executive MBA (the "easy" version) and to do the full thing instead. After that you could be stuck as a low-paid manager in a shitco with few job options, though. But at least it entitles you to be CEO of a freshly funded startup and to join for half the company's equity right after they did the entire legwork of securing funding and doing the prototype for you. So if you luck out this way it can be helpful. Furthermore, many business schools have special funds and incubators that only let their alumni and students join. So it's probably a good option, but it's not for everyone. Usually people who go into CS are introverted nerds. To succeed in business requires extroversion and salesmanship, or being born rich.
商科这行看运气，还是得看你上的是哪所学校。不过跟其他专业不一样的是，MBA 你随时都能去读。只要别读行政 MBA（那个"水货版"），读完整版就行。但读完之后你可能还是被困在一家烂公司里当个低薪经理，没什么别的出路。不过至少它让你有资格去一家刚拿到融资的初创公司当 CEO，在人家把融资和原型这些苦活全干完之后，进来分走一半股份。所以要是你运气好赶上这种事，还是有用的。另外很多商学院都有专门的基金和孵化器，只对校友和在校生开放。所以这大概是条不错的路，但不是人人都适合。学 CS 的通常都是内向的书呆子，而要在商界混出名堂需要外向性格和推销能力，或者干脆就是投胎投得好。
That said, like you say, zoomers didn't know or care about tech whatsoever and only went into cs because of the money promises. Then again, nerds haven't been allowed in tech spaces since 2005.
话说回来，就像你说的，Z 世代对技术一窍不通也毫不关心，冲进 CS 全是冲着画的大饼去的。不过话说回来，2005 年之后书呆子们就被挡在技术圈外了。
>>109793545
>Why are there so many söy and plebbit phenotypes within the SWE industry and very seldom do you see any rugged individuals.
>为什么软件工程师（SWE）行业里有这么多窝囊废和 Reddit 模样的人，却很少见到有个性的硬汉？
Because only nerd faggots become programmers (you are slave to computers and a slave to software other people wrote)
因为只有书呆子基佬才会去当程序员（你既是电脑的奴隶，又是别人写的软件的奴隶）
>>109804000
To quote Obi Wan Kenobi: YOU HAVE DONE THAT YOURSELVES!
引用欧比旺·克诺比的话：那是你们自己干的好事！
>>109805093
surely mba is a meme
MBA 肯定是个梗吧
any company i've ever seen selects management based on personal relationships and charisma
我见过的所有公司选管理层都是看私人关系和个人魅力
>>109806190
MBA makes you very competitive for executive roles, not just management. It's just that realistically you won't have such an option (no connections) and will have to get into a management role. As you say it's usually about charisma and relationships, but the only other way in is "be fresh out of MBA".
MBA 不只是让你进管理层，竞争高管职位也很有优势。只是现实里你没这个选项（没人脉），只能先混个管理岗。就像你说的，一般靠的是魅力和人脉，但唯一的另一条入场券就是"刚毕业的 MBA"。
>>109792402
who are these whores
这些娘们是谁啊
>>109793206
Leave them nips alone you parasites
别碰人家日本妹子，你们这些寄生虫
Reposting from last thread, still gathering input.
上一楼的转帖，继续收集意见。
What is the standard when it comes to working with AI these days? I'm convinced my CEO is suffering from AI psychosis and my boss and team manager are joining the ride. The guy spends all day reading articles from AI "expertes" (Linkedin midwits and a varied breed of snake oil salesman) and is constantly rushing us to implement the latest meme shit and burn tokens like crazy. Recent claims of his include that programming is dead, that you no longer need to know anything about the codebase and that reviewing PRs is a waste of time simply because Claude codes better than you.
现在跟 AI 协作工作的标准到底是个什么样？我严重怀疑我们 CEO 得了 AI 精神病，我老板和团队经理也开始跟着一起发疯。那家伙整天读 AI "专家"（LinkedIn 上的中等智力货色和各路江湖骗子）的文章，不停催我们上最新出的梗产品，疯狂烧 token。他最近的言论包括：编程已死、你不需要再了解代码库、审查 PR 纯属浪费时间，理由就一个：Claude 写代码比你强。
Also I'm talking about "developing" full features using AI, implemented by peole that are completely new to this project, that have absolutely no clue about the codebase, and some of them even have a poor understanding of the tech stack.
我说的还是用 AI "开发"完整功能这事，而且实现的人对这个项目完全是新来的，对代码库一无所知，有些人连技术栈都搞不明白。
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