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Normies are braindead on AI

普通人对人工智能已经脑死亡

4chan /g/ · Anonymous · 2026-08-18 22:48 · 62 帖 · 原文 ↗

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#1 Normies are braindead on AI / 普通人对人工智能已经脑死亡
Anonymous · 2026-08-18 22:48

At some point robotic spiders will paint walls and fix cracks, but they will claim "AI failed" or that "It's robotics / science, not AI" .

在某些时候,机器人蜘蛛会粉刷墙壁并修复裂缝,但它们会声称“人工智能失败了”或“这是机器人/科学,而不是人工智能”。

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1787093322917386.jpg

#2 No.109591111
Anonymous · 2026-08-18 22:56

2 weeks right anon?

马上2周吧?

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1787093765861584.jpg

#3 No.109591139
Anonymous · 2026-08-18 22:59

>>109591046

It's probably just clickbait.

这可能只是点击诱饵。

#4 No.109591141
Anonymous · 2026-08-18 22:59

>>109591046

Why are people who can't fix one(1) Baltimore bridge for several years now are talking about sci-fi tech even? You couldn't build robots if you tried, anon.

为什么几年来都无法修好一(1)座巴尔的摩大桥的人们现在甚至在谈论科幻技术?即使你尝试过,你也无法建造机器人。

#5 No.109591151
Anonymous · 2026-08-18 23:00

>>109591111

Except Zuckerberg was right and we're now seeing mass Engineers being fired.

但扎克伯格是对的,我们现在看到大量工程师被解雇。

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1787094030318127.png

#6 No.109591205
Anonymous · 2026-08-18 23:08

posting youtube screenshots on 4chan to be part of the secret misanthropy club is normie behavior

在 4chan 上发布 YouTube 屏幕截图以加入秘密厌世俱乐部是常态行为

#7 No.109591305
Anonymous · 2026-08-18 23:20

wow that's a big flag i bet his grandma is 1/8 polish and he speaks the langugae

哇,那是一面大旗,我打赌他的奶奶是 1/8 波兰人,他会说波兰语

#8 No.109591647
Anonymous · 2026-08-19 00:02

>>109591141

Infrastructure has been slow down by regulations and Jewish usury.

由于法规和犹太人的高利贷,基础设施建设已经放缓。

Robots will bypass a lot of it, at least for a while.

机器人将绕过很多环节,至少在一段时间内如此。

#9 No.109591699
Anonymous · 2026-08-19 00:08

>>109591046

I assume he's talking about LLMs, and no an LLM won't paint my house.

我猜他说的是法学硕士,而法学硕士不会粉刷我的房子。

#10 No.109592794
Anonymous · 2026-08-19 03:02

>>109591647

What robots? Where are they? May we see them?

什么机器人?他们在哪里?我们可以见见他们吗?

#11 No.109592853
Anonymous · 2026-08-19 03:14

>>109591046

>robotic spiders will paint walls

>机器蜘蛛会粉刷墙壁

You want them to damage walls? I could believe in drones but we are far from that.

你想让他们破坏墙壁吗?我可以相信无人机,但我们离那还很远。

#12 No.109592888
Anonymous · 2026-08-19 03:21

>>109591046

>It's robotics / science, not AI

>这是机器人/科学,而不是人工智能

It will be this.

将会是这个。

Just look at how people who predicted that LLMs were a dead end are currently trying to walk their predictions back by suggesting that a LLM in a harness isn't actually an LLM

只要看看那些预测法学硕士是死胡同的人现在是如何试图通过暗示法学硕士实际上并不是法学硕士来推翻他们的预测。

#13 No.109592914
Anonymous · 2026-08-19 03:26

>>109591046

> AI is not here to stay

> 人工智能不会长久存在

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1787109995890559.png

#14 No.109592980
Anonymous · 2026-08-19 03:43

>>109591046

>Calling an LLM AI

>致电LLM AI

AI doesn't exist yet.

人工智能还不存在。

#15 No.109592983
Anonymous · 2026-08-19 03:44

>>109592888

I always loved that argument, it's like saying that humans can't program because they need a computer and IDE or at least a text editor, otherwise they can only write and compile very simple programs mentally. And of course several test batteries are necessary because their one-shot slop is full of bugs.

我一直很喜欢这个论点,这就像说人类无法编程,因为他们需要计算机和 IDE 或至少一个文本编辑器,否则他们只能在心理上编写和编译非常简单的程序。当然,几个测试电池是必要的,因为它们的一次性斜坡充满了错误。

#16 No.109592990
Anonymous · 2026-08-19 03:45

>>109591046

AI is here to stay because I can take his 26 minute rambling video's transcript, give it to ChatGPT and have it spit out a bunch of bullet points, read it and then move on with my day.

AI 会留下来,因为我可以将他 26 分钟漫无目的视频的文字记录交给 ChatGPT,让它吐出一堆要点,阅读它,然后继续我的一天。

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1787111110455431.png

#17 No.109593002
Anonymous · 2026-08-19 03:47

>>109592990

An absolutely terrible argument to make on the month when local models became entirely competitive with frontier models for agentic tasks, lmao

当本地模型在代理任务上与前沿模型完全竞争时,这是一个绝对可怕的论点,lmao

#18 No.109593171
Anonymous · 2026-08-19 04:23

>>109592914

He should have said

他应该说

>AI is here and I am GAY

>人工智能来了,我是GAY

#19 No.109593204
runit · 2026-08-19 04:34

>screenshot of a youtube video

> YouTube 视频的屏幕截图

Who cares?

谁在乎呢?

I'm definitely not interested in this. Next time at least use an invidious instance to take your screenshot of the content.

我绝对对这个不感兴趣。下次至少使用一个令人反感的实例来截取内容的屏幕截图。

#20 No.109593275
Anonymous · 2026-08-19 04:50

>>109591046

>they

voices in your schizo mind?

你精神分裂的脑海里有声音吗?

#21 No.109593678
Anonymous · 2026-08-19 06:14

>>109591151

No, we're not.

不,我们不是。

#22 No.109593686
Anonymous · 2026-08-19 06:16

>>109592983

Why are you replying to yourself? You must think you're being super subversive.

你为什么要回复自己?你一定认为你具有超级颠覆性。

#23 No.109593692
Anonymous · 2026-08-19 06:17

>>109593002

Ah, yes, the local models, the next level of AI psychosis.

啊,是的,本地模型,人工智能精神病的下一个层次。

#24 No.109594331
Anonymous · 2026-08-19 08:44

>>109591151

They were being fired anyway. AI is just an excuse.

无论如何,他们都会被解雇。人工智能只是一个借口。

#25 No.109594341
Anonymous · 2026-08-19 08:47

>>109591046

Bubble will pop eventually but you have to be an actual braindead retard to think that AI won't be here to stay.

泡沫最终会破裂,但你必须是一个真正的脑残才能认为人工智能不会长久存在。

#26 No.109594380
Anonymous · 2026-08-19 08:54

>>109591699

You probably could make it do it.

你也许可以让它做到。

Provide me a step by step guide on how to paint me house. Also i'm paralyzed so I use this drone with an attached paintbrush on it, and also need a step by step guide on how to operate it.

为我提供有关如何粉刷房屋的分步指南。我也瘫痪了,所以我使用这架带有画笔的无人机,并且还需要有关如何操作它的分步指南。

It would be cumbersome, but as a proof of concept, you could make it it paint a house through operating a drone.

这会很麻烦,但作为概念证明,你可以通过操作无人机来粉刷房子。

#27 No.109594442
Anonymous · 2026-08-19 09:08

>>109593692

Have you met Gemma?

你见过杰玛吗?

#28 No.109594613
Anonymous · 2026-08-19 09:48

>>109594341

don't think it will

我认为不会

they will just steal the entire middle easts oil reserve to fund AI until the year 2200 at the very least

他们至少会窃取整个中东的石油储备来资助人工智能,直到 2200 年

probably why this war is even happening desu

也许为什么这场战争会发生 desu

#29 No.109594740
Anonymous · 2026-08-19 10:28

>>109594341

We could have another dark age some day and it could all be lost and forgotten.

有一天,我们可能会经历另一个黑暗时代,而这一切都可能会丢失和遗忘。

#30 No.109594750
Anonymous · 2026-08-19 10:30

>>109591046

>normies are braindead

> 正常人都是脑死亡的

Always were.

一直都是。

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1787135456153788.png

#31 No.109594793
Anonymous · 2026-08-19 10:43

>>109591046

Most of youtubers are anti AI because they know they are being replaced by AI slop.

大多数 YouTube 用户都反对人工智能,因为他们知道自己正在被人工智能取代。

#32 No.109594833
Anonymous · 2026-08-19 10:54

>>109591046

People don't know how broad AI is as a category and how many uses it has. For example, if you're using a search engine, you're using AI, because it's almost certainly using some kind of hybrid RAG pipeline. If you're using a GPS, you're almost certainly using graph AI models. If you're playing a video game, the NPC AI is almost certainly relying on the A* algorithm, which again falls under AI. If you're buying groceries, the way the items are laid out in the shop is likely determined using AI, as it's an optimization task. AI is not just generative models.

人们不知道人工智能作为一个类别有多广泛以及它有多少用途。例如,如果您使用搜索引擎,那么您正在使用人工智能,因为它几乎肯定使用某种混合 RAG 管道。如果您使用 GPS,那么几乎可以肯定您正在使用图形 AI 模型。如果你正在玩电子游戏,NPC AI 几乎肯定依赖于 A* 算法,这又属于 AI 范畴。如果您要购买杂货,商店中物品的摆放方式可能是使用人工智能确定的,因为这是一项优化任务。人工智能不仅仅是生成模型。

#33 No.109594852
Anonymous · 2026-08-19 10:58

>>109594833

Even searching your photos on an iPhone is AI

即使在 iPhone 上搜索照片也是人工智能

#34 No.109594878
Anonymous · 2026-08-19 11:02

>>109591046

Someone please tell grandpa to go back to his repairs. He's getting senile.

请有人告诉爷爷回去修理。他越来越老了。

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1787137343117436.gif

#35 No.109594940
Anonymous · 2026-08-19 11:13

when I take a piss it's AI

当我小便时,它是人工智能

#36 No.109594951
Anonymous · 2026-08-19 11:15

>>109594833

>f you're using a search engine, you're using AI, because it's almost certainly using some kind of hybrid RAG pipeline

>如果您使用搜索引擎,那么您正在使用人工智能,因为它几乎肯定使用某种混合 RAG 管道

you think you are but 99% sure you aren't

你认为你是,但 99% 确定你不是

Why would google give up their world class search algorithms with something insanely expensive like RAG for every user, are you insane

为什么谷歌会放弃他们世界级的搜索算法,为每个用户提供像 RAG 这样昂贵的东西,你疯了吗?

#37 No.109594974
Anonymous · 2026-08-19 11:18

>>109591046

>AI

Actually, it's Machine Intelligence

其实这就是机器智能

#38 No.109594983
Anonymous · 2026-08-19 11:20

>>109594951

Well I use DuckDuckGo, and I get AI search assist, which is essentially just an AI summary, often during my searches, so pardon me that in my eyes it doesn't strain credulity that Google, which has vastly more resources, probably uses such technologies as well.

好吧,我使用 DuckDuckGo,并且获得了 AI 搜索辅助,这本质上只是一个 AI 摘要,经常在我的搜索过程中进行,所以请原谅我,在我看来,拥有更多资源的 Google 也可能使用此类技术,这一点并不令人难以置信。

#39 No.109595649
Anonymous · 2026-08-19 13:28

this nigga can't even make a good flux

这个黑鬼甚至连一个好的助焊剂都做不到

#40 No.109596477
Anonymous · 2026-08-19 15:30

Robots were never cheap and it's unlikely this will change any time soon.

机器人从来都不便宜,而且这种情况不太可能很快改变。

Even the most basic bitch 'robot' a roomba cost like 600 bucks or more.

即使是最基本的“机器人”,Roomba 也要花费 600 美元或更多。

Spiders painting walls would be close to 10 thousand each.

每只粉刷墙壁的蜘蛛数量接近一万只。

Something a firm could afford but then you're paying for the service one way or another.

公司可以负担得起的东西,但你要以某种方式为服务付费。

And at this moment it's probably too expensive to pain walls with robots in regular homes. Maybe in huge construction projects where automation could be worth it.

目前,在普通家庭中用机器人粉刷墙壁可能太昂贵了。也许在大型建筑项目中,自动化是值得的。

#41 No.109596523
Anonymous · 2026-08-19 15:35

>>109592888

Well an LLM without weights is useless.

那么,没有权重的法学硕士是没有用的。

And some humans have to do the job of tweaking the AIs so they could be "intelligent" (which they aren't even)

有些人类必须调整人工智能,这样它们才能变得“聪明”(他们甚至不是)

So it's all just aping human cognition using statistical word matching after getting an extra layer of tweaks to not be completely schizo

因此,这一切都只是在进行额外一层调整后使用统计单词匹配来模仿人类认知,以免完全精神分裂

#42 No.109596535
Anonymous · 2026-08-19 15:36

>>109591046

the problem with LLMs is that they aren't actually intelligent and likely will never be

法学硕士的问题在于他们实际上并不聪明,而且可能永远不会聪明

tech bros are fools to think that they can make the equivalent of synapses and neurons (which have undergone billions of years of evolution) in digital space

科技兄弟们愚蠢地认为他们可以在数字空间中制造相当于突触和神经元(经历了数十亿年的进化)的东西

#43 No.109596612
Anonymous · 2026-08-19 15:48

>>109591046

I'm not against AI... I'm against TRANSFORMER/MACHINE LEARNING-based AI.

我并不反对人工智能……我反对基于变形金刚/机器学习的人工智能。

#44 No.109596624
Anonymous · 2026-08-19 15:51

>>109596612

machine learning is based

机器学习是基于

fuck off

滚蛋

#45 No.109596627
Anonymous · 2026-08-19 15:51

>>109596624

You don't see the problem, do you?

你没有看到问题所在,是吗?

#46 No.109596728
Anonymous · 2026-08-19 16:04

>>109596612

What's wrong with machine learning? It's a really broad category as well, you know.

机器学习出了什么问题?你知道,这也是一个非常广泛的类别。

#47 No.109596734
Anonymous · 2026-08-19 16:04

>>109596728

nope it's a dead end at scale

不,这在规模上是一个死胡同

#48 No.109596767
Anonymous · 2026-08-19 16:08

>>109591046

>Black Horse Repairs

>黑马维修

Wonderful, another degenerate in the tech community.

太棒了,科技界又一个堕落者。

#49 No.109596788
Anonymous · 2026-08-19 16:11

>>109596734

I agree, that what you highlighted is a profound remark and there are very sophisticated reasons why, but that speaks to the hypothetical performance constraints, not to the morality of using it. Unless all you meant by your original statement was that you have no faith in those technologies only as far as the hypothetical performance ceiling is concerned, in which case I don't disagree, but I would use different words to express it.

我同意,您强调的是深刻的评论,并且有非常复杂的原因,但这说明了假设的性能限制,而不是使用它的道德。除非你最初的陈述的意思是你对这些技术没有信心,只是就假设的性能上限而言,在这种情况下我并不反对,但我会用不同的词来表达它。

#50 No.109596791
Anonymous · 2026-08-19 16:11

>>109591647

who do you think owns the robots?

你认为谁拥有这些机器人?

#51 No.109597288
Anonymous · 2026-08-19 17:12

>>109591046

Except that's true, retard. LLMs and mass datacenters aren't going to be what's powering your robospider workers.

但那是真的,迟钝。法学硕士和大规模数据中心不会为您的机器人蜘蛛工人提供动力。

How is a machine that's entirely reliant on computing done thousands of miles away going to be viable, both physically and economically? We've barely hit the point a bipedal robot can run in a straight line without assistance and you think we can take that, miniaturize it, make it navigate and climb unknown terrain all with either, 1. Currently impossibly small and efficient ways of processing and interpreting that data on device or 2. With delay from having a data center do the intensive bits and send them back?

一台完全依赖于在千里之外进行计算的机器如何在物理上和经济上都可行?我们几乎没有达到双足机器人可以在没有帮助的情况下直线行驶的程度,你认为我们可以采取这一点,将其小型化,使其导航并攀爬未知地形,所有这些都可以是:1.目前在设备上处理和解释数据的小而高效的方法,或者2.由于数据中心处理密集数据并将其发回而造成延迟?

Throwing text predictors with a fancy coat of paint for the investors at the problem won't solve issues with hardware and outright physics constraints on the issue, unless you genuinely want to claim we hit AGI and solve the secrets of the universe before we hit constraints with actually running the fucking thing before the magic black box tells us how stupid we are and makes the hardware better.

在问题上给投资者涂上一层漂亮的油漆的文本预测器并不能解决硬件问题和对这个问题的彻底物理限制,除非你真的想声称我们在实际运行该死的东西之前达到了AGI并解决了宇宙的秘密,然后神奇的黑匣子告诉我们我们有多么愚蠢并让硬件变得更好。

#52 No.109598101
Anonymous · 2026-08-19 18:53

>>109591046

LLMs are not going to be powering robotic spiders lmao

法学硕士不会为机器人蜘蛛提供动力 lmao

For a lot of people, AI means LLMs. It's clear that the current companies are lying about the level their products will ever reach, and the majority of them are unprofitable and are going to go bankrupt at some point this decade.

对于很多人来说,人工智能意味着法学硕士。很明显,当前的公司在其产品将达到的水平上撒了谎,其中大多数都没有盈利,并且将在本十年的某个时候破产。

This is what people mean when they say AI failed. Big name LLMs are going to fail.

这就是人们说人工智能失败的意思。大名鼎鼎的法学硕士将会失败。

#53 No.109598182
Anonymous · 2026-08-19 19:01

>>109591046

>At some point robotic spiders will paint walls and fix cracks

>在某些时候,机器人蜘蛛会粉刷墙壁并修复裂缝

Dream on. The end times are here and we'll all be dead in 30 years tops. You're all just coping.

梦想继续。末日已经来临,30 年后我们都会死去。你们都只是应付而已。

#54 No.109598324
Anonymous · 2026-08-19 19:18

>>109591151

a monkey throwing its shit at a typewriter could replace 10 "engineers" and efficiency would go through the roof.

一只向打字机扔屎的猴子可以取代 10 个“工程师”,效率将会飞速提升。

AI is only managing to do something slightly less impressive than that.

人工智能只能做一些比这稍逊一筹的事情。

#55 No.109599159
Anonymous · 2026-08-19 20:58

>>109593002

>An absolutely terrible argument to make on the month when local models became entirely competitive with frontier models for agentic tasks, lmao

>当本地模型在代理任务上与前沿模型完全竞争时,这是一个绝对可怕的论点,lmao

What local models are decent atm for this? Is Qwen3.8 the one you're referring to?

哪些本地型号的自动取款机适合此操作?你指的是Qwen3.8吗?

I remember someone said this about Gemma4 but it was miserable to use as an agent.

我记得有人这么说Gemma4,但是用起来很惨。

#56 No.109599347
Anonymous · 2026-08-19 21:25

>>109591151

meta is bleeding money they were going to be fired anyway kek

Meta 正在流钱,无论如何他们都会被解雇 kek

#57 No.109599602
Anonymous · 2026-08-19 22:01

>>109591046

People make youtube vids in order to make money, the anti AI audience is just an another segment in the market.

人们制作 YouTube 视频是为了赚钱,反人工智能受众只是市场中的另一个细分市场。

#58 No.109599640
Anonymous · 2026-08-19 22:06

>>109591046

don't care, still not paying for AI (ever). I may use it for free though.

不在乎,仍然不为人工智能付费(永远)。不过我可以免费使用它。

#59 No.109599655
Anonymous · 2026-08-19 22:08

>>109592914

I love when bots spam retarded memes. /s

我喜欢机器人向弱智模因发送垃圾邮件。 /秒

#60 No.109599676
Anonymous · 2026-08-19 22:12

>>109591139

When in doubt, it's always clickbait. People are ignoring the forest for the trees.

当有疑问时,它总是点击诱饵。人们只见树木,只见森林。

#61 No.109600278
Anonymous · 2026-08-19 23:55

>>109599159

Yeah, that punches far above its weight. For a broader definition of "local" there are other strong options like DS Flash too.

是的,这远远超出了它的重量。对于“本地”的更广泛定义,还有其他强大的选择,例如 DS Flash。

#62 No.109600284
Anonymous · 2026-08-19 23:57

>>109599159

>>109600278

forgot my pic

忘记了我的照片

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