/iemg/ & /pmpg/ - In-Ear Monitor & Portable Music Player General

Small Yuki edition

小由纪版

How to request advice:

如何寻求帮助：

>Budget

>Intended use (media, source, environment)

>用途（媒体、音源、使用环境）

>Frequency response preference and music examples

>频响偏好及音乐示例

>Past gear and your thoughts on them

>用过的设备及你的评价

FAQ:

>Where do I buy IEMs?

>我在哪里买IEM？

Amazon, Aliexpress, Linsoul, Hifigo, Shenzhenaudio

亚马逊、速卖通、Linsoul、Hifigo、Shenzhenaudio

>Shopping Guide (IEMs, PMPs, Cables, Ear Tips, etc.):

>购物指南（IEM、PMP、线材、耳塞套等）：

https://consoomer-guide.pages.dev/

>/iemg/'s Journal:

>/iemg/ 的日志：

https://iemgazette.pages.dev/

>EQ Guide (EQ 101, Targets, Myths & Misconceptions, Papers, etc.):

>EQ指南（EQ入门、目标曲线、迷思与误解、论文等）：

https://iem-eq-guide.pages.dev/

>Measurements:

https://iem-eq-guide.pages.dev/measurement-databases/

>Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs:

>预算款有线包耳式IEM：

• Tanchjim Bunny DSP (Mild U/5-Band PEQ) - $22

• Tanchjim Bunny DSP（轻微U型/5段PEQ） - $22

• Truthear Gate (Mild V) - $22

• Truthear Gate（轻微V型） - $22

• EPZ Q1 Pro (V-shape) - $35

• EPZ Q1 Pro（V型） - $35

>Bullet IEMs:

>子弹头IEM：

• Tanchjim Zero Ultima DSP (Mild U/5-Band PEQ) - $22

• Tanchjim Zero Ultima DSP（轻微U型/5段PEQ） - $22

• Sony IER-EX15C (Warm/Dark) - $30

• Sony IER-EX15C（暖/暗） - $30

• Etymotic ER2XR (Towards Neutral) - $140

• Etymotic ER2XR（偏中性） - $140

>Flathead Earbuds:

>平头耳塞：

• NICEHCK Vido (Warm) - $5

• NICEHCK Vido（暖） - $5

• Yincrow X6 (Warm) - $10

• Yincrow X6（暖） - $10

>USB-C DACs:

• JCally JM6 (Non Pro) / CX Pro - $8

• JCally JM6（非Pro版） / CX Pro - $8

• JadeAudio JIEZI (10-Band PEQ) - $18

• JadeAudio JIEZI（10段PEQ） - $18

• TRN Black Pearl (10-Band PEQ) - $38

• TRN Black Pearl（10段PEQ） - $38

• Qudelix 5K (20-Band PEQ/GEQ) - $110

• Qudelix 5K（20段PEQ/GEQ） - $110

>PMPs:

• HiBy R1 - $85

• HiBy M300 - $200

• TempoTec V1 - $110

• TempoTec V1 - 110 美元

>AVOID USING:

• Mainboard audio when using multi-driver pos

• 多单元动铁/动圈混合单元使用主板音频

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上一主题：>>109558100

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First for KBEAR Stellar

KBEAR Stellar 首个

>>109570377

More like SLOP Yuki

更像SLOP Yuki

>>109570377

brown friend, that is ai generated

棕色朋友，那是ai生成的

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6xtNSRCDJc

new gems, headphones chads can't stop winning

新宝石、耳机乍得无法停止获胜

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>>109566299

the battery is 10h~ or so

电池续航时间10h~左右

>>109570511

i hate that some people really like this headpos. its like reverse hype

我讨厌有些人真的很喜欢这个头饰。这就像反向炒作

>>109570516

new cheap stax alternatives from china are nice tho, im tempted by moondrop zero or hongshu audio eh1 just to try electrostats.

来自中国的新的廉价 stax 替代品很不错，我对 Moondrop Zero 或 hongshu audio eh1 很感兴趣，只是为了尝试静电。

Techs is stored in Driver Quality.

技术存储在驱动程序质量中。

which audio technica headphone under 200 bucks is good?

200元以下的铁三角耳机哪款好？

>>109571156

m50x?

>>109571202

thx

Audio Technica made good headphones?

Audio Technica 的耳机好不好？

>>109571358

R70x is great

R70x很棒

was he right?

他说得对吗？

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>>109571686

>full planars

>全平面

not really, too many issues

不是真的，问题太多

>microplanars

yes

>>109570377

My girl likes to party all the time

我的女儿总是喜欢参加派对

Party all the time

随时聚会

Party all the time

随时聚会

My dac came in now I can listen to music as god intended

我的 dac 进来了，现在我可以按照上帝的意愿听音乐了

Bunny G means Bunny Gaming

Bunny G 意思是 Bunny Gaming

it's just dark shell bunny + a more capable DSP cable

它只是黑壳兔子 + 功能更强大的 DSP 电缆

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is there any cheap IEM that is bundled with good quality eartips (an few types of them) and cable so its good choice as parts donor? Or its better to spend that money buying tips and cable from popular accesories brands on aliexpress?

是否有任何便宜的入耳式耳机与优质耳塞（其中几种）和电缆捆绑在一起，因此作为零件捐赠者是不错的选择？或者花这笔钱从全球速卖通上的流行配件品牌购买尖端和电缆更好？

>>109572171

Wanker Red Lion for tips

Wanker Red Lion 获取提示

For tips, I can only think of Waners with Sancai wide bore, that's about it. Spinfits, Dunu, Final Audio, etc etc you need to purchase separately. Gates got good cables, I bought two of them.

对于技巧，我只能想到三彩宽口径的万纳斯，仅此而已。 Spinfits、Dunu、Final Audio 等需要单独购买。盖茨有很好的电缆，我买了两条。

>mic + AI noise supression

>麦克风+AI降噪

>preset selector

>预设选择器

>DSP

Yuki did it. Gaming endgame cable.

由纪做到了。游戏残局电缆。

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>>109570678

Driver quality is stored in the faceplate.

驱动器质量存储在面板中。

who's buying? the big one is 6k and only 10 units are available :O

谁在买？大的是 6k，只有 10 台可用：O

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>>109572487

Faceplate is stored in the balls.

面板存放在球中。

>>109572381

whats this?

这是什么？

>>109572860

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>>109572918

Bruh

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>>109572381

That shite have that cheap feeling of copycat controllers for PS2 and PS1, looks like it's few weeks short of disintegrating itself into plastic flakes

这玩意有一种廉价的感觉，就像 PS2 和 PS1 的山寨控制器，看起来几周后就会分解成塑料碎片

Not adherent enough, pass

不够坚持，通过

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>>109572972

Crinear reference or moondrop silicon? For that sweet jm1 target.

水晶参考还是月滴硅？为了那个甜蜜的 jm1 目标。

Acthually I listen to EP321 MEMS and holy techs, they are pretty nice.

其实我听EP321 MEMS和holy techs，他们都很好听。

>>109572950

Good for listening to Moombathon.

很适合听Moombathon。

>>109572381

For gayming?? I want it. It better have maximum imaging so I can hear footsteps to the exact angle above me through the wall

为了同性恋？？我要它。最好有最大的成像，这样我就可以透过墙壁听到我上方精确角度的脚步声

>>109572972

Chu 3 kinda looks ass. I'm sure goycattle will buy regardless

楚3有点像屁股。我确信 goycattle 无论如何都会购买

Only for high test boys. Not for sissies or geriatrics.

只适合高考男生。不适合胆小鬼或老年病患者。

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>>109572171

truthear gate has pretty good tips and amazing cable

Truthear Gate 有很好的技巧和令人惊叹的电缆

>buying tips and cable from popular accesories brands on aliexpress

>在速卖通上从流行配件品牌购买提示和电缆

It really depends on what you want. I'd buy something like dunu S&S and springtips regardless. And cables there's a fuckton of them all shapes sizes and materials.

这实际上取决于你想要什么。无论如何，我都会买 dunu S&S 和 springtips 之类的东西。还有各种形状、尺寸和材料的电缆。

>>109572972

compare it to chu 2 instead...

与 chu 2 进行比较...

>>109573278

bottom is huifi

底部是huifi

same shit with likely more damping

同样的东西，可能有更多的阻尼

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At least some effort in that recycling

至少在回收方面做出一些努力

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I've seen yt channel where guy is disassembling iems and tries to identify drivers and other parts. If u have winning formulas u don't experiment with cheaper stuff, new shell, new box art and maybe slight tuning change and into production it goes

我看过 yt 频道，其中有人正在拆卸 IEM 并尝试识别驱动程序和其他部件。如果你有获胜的公式，你就不会尝试更便宜的东西，新的外壳，新的盒子艺术，也许还有轻微的调整变化并投入生产。

>>109573512

>yt channel where guy is disassembling iems and tries to identify drivers

>yt 频道，家伙正在拆卸 IEMS 并尝试识别驱动程序

you mean Hi-Fri Audio?

你是说 Hi-Fri 音频吗？

>>109573318

This is how I EQ my Chu 2s, lower the shout a bit

这就是我对 Chu 2 进行 EQ 的方式，稍微降低喊叫声

>>109570377

redpill me on usb-c vs 3.5mm headphones

Redpill Me 使用 USB-C 与 3.5mm 耳机

I ask because I'm looking to upgrade and see most phones nowadays don't even have a 3.5mm port fuck me

我问这个是因为我想升级，发现现在大多数手机甚至没有 3.5 毫米端口操我

I don't want to have more shit to keep charged

我不想再有更多的东西来充电

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>>109573632

bro your usb c dongle? use that for your phone

兄弟，你的 USB C 加密狗吗？将其用于您的手机

>>109573632

You mean bluepill. The only redpill is and always will be:

你说的是蓝丸。唯一的红药丸是并且永远是：

Get a phone with a headphone jack.

买一部带耳机插孔的手机。

Why even pay for a phone without one?

为什么还要花钱买一部没有手机的手机呢？

>>109573688

because most phones don't have one now? zoomers killed it

因为现在大多数手机都没有这个功能？变焦镜杀死了它

>use local price comparison site

>使用当地比价网站

>the only filter I set is for the device to have esim support

>我设置的唯一过滤器是让设备支持 esim

>3.5mm jack yes (10) / no (250)

>3.5mm 插孔 有 (10) / 无 (250)

its over

结束了

>everyone is releasing one or two new endgame pos

>每个人都在发布一两个新的游戏结局

>meanwhile Truthear is only releasing a new color for the Pure in a year

>与此同时，Truthear 仅在一年内为 Pure 发布新颜色

Shiroi is fucking dead...

白井已经死了……

I'm gonna buy them, though. I avoided the black ones because they were ugly as sin.

不过我还是要买它们。我避开黑色的，因为它们丑得像罪恶。

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>>109573797

I'm happy with my Xperia 1 VI. Paid a premium price to have a headphone jack, SD card slot and unlockable bootloader with official support from the manufacturer. Zero regrets.

我对我的 Xperia 1 VI 很满意。付出高昂的代价获得了耳机插孔、SD卡插槽和可解锁的引导加载程序，并得到了制造商的官方支持。零遗憾。

To buy similarly priced phones without those features (like iPhone) one just has to be terminally retarded. Half the price? Not as bad, but the Xperia is worth 20 such phones, not 2.

如果你想购买同等价位但没有这些功能的手机（比如 iPhone），那么你只能是个终末智障者。半价？没那么糟糕，但 Xperia 值 20 部这样的手机，而不是 2 部。

>>109573814

shill bro, let her cook

希尔兄弟，让她做饭

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>>109573878

Is it Nova 2?

是新星2吗？

>>109571713

What are some microplanar IEM examples?

有哪些微平面入耳式耳机示例？

>>109573878

>cloth cable

>布缆

>and not the less worse kind

>而且不是更糟糕的那种

fuck me through my balls wtf are they thinking

操我的蛋蛋他们在想什么吗

>>109573973

Yeah the stock cloth cable from the novas was the first thing I swapped out. Microphonics were unbearable, even though its aesthetic

是的，novas 的库存布电缆是我更换的第一件事。麦克风技术令人难以忍受，尽管它很美观

Do they sell the Gate cable separately?

他们单独出售 Gate 电缆吗？

I prefer it to Tripowin, Openheart etc cables.

与 Tripowin、Openheart 等电缆相比，我更喜欢它。

>>109574217

no.

Have you ever bought something you thought was probably snake oil and then been pleasantly surprised?

您是否曾经买过一些您认为可能是蛇油的东西，然后却感到惊喜？

Pic related.

图相关。

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>>109573945

CringeEar Theybreak and its twin model, the EPZ P50, among others

CringeEar Theybreak 及其孪生型号 EPZ P50 等

>>109573945

supposedly they aren't "real planars" lol

据说他们不是“真正的平面”哈哈

>>109574256

Are they changing sound? Now when I saw that is there any guide for eartips rolling with quick explanation what tip length, material or hole size is doing with FR? Like for headphones usually pads have similar effects regardless of headphones used

他们正在改变声音吗？现在，当我看到有没有关于耳塞滚动的指南，并快速解释耳塞长度、材料或孔尺寸与 FR 有何关系？就像耳机一样，无论使用哪种耳机，垫子通常都会有类似的效果

>>109574503

>Are they changing sound?

> 他们改变声音了吗？

Yes, to a certain extent.

是的，在某种程度上。

>>109574503

>explanation what tip length, material or hole size is doing with FR

>解释尖端长度、材料或孔尺寸与 FR 的关系

nothing consistent

没有什么一致的

length might move length modes around a bit I guess...

我猜长度可能会稍微移动长度模式......

>Like for headphones usually pads have similar effects regardless of headphones used

>就像耳机一样，无论使用哪种耳机，耳机垫通常都会有类似的效果

maybe in a broad sense, but when you measure them it's all fucked up (and mostly worse than original pads)

也许是广义上的，但是当你测量它们时，一切都搞砸了（而且大多比原始垫更糟糕）

>>109574503

Some iems like Novas have separate FR measurements for different tips, but it's going to be different per iem due to design of the nozzle and the shell, which combined with tips and your ear anatomy affect seal, comfort, insertion depth, etc. Some tips that work for one iem won't work for another, tips and iem combo for one anon might not work for you. The best way is to try it for yourself and see what works, hence tip rolling.

有些入耳式耳机（例如 Novas）对不同耳塞有单独的 FR 测量值，但由于喷嘴和外壳的设计，每个耳塞的测量结果都会有所不同，再加上耳塞和您的耳朵解剖结构，会影响密封性、舒适度、插入深度等。一些适用于一种耳塞的耳塞不适用于另一种耳塞，耳塞和耳塞组合可能不适合您。最好的方法是亲自尝试一下，看看什么有效，然后进行小费滚动。

>>109573632

Type c dongles - more predictable sound quality, the lowest convenience, will start losing connection eventually.

C 型适配器 - 音质更可预测，便利性最低，最终将开始失去连接。

3.5 - more reliable and convenient, usually wack quality, if it's some budget xiaomi/samsung it's gonna have like 20 Ohm output impedance, snoy is the only option, or some really old LGs.

3.5 - 更可靠、更方便，通常质量很奇怪，如果是一些预算有限的小米/三星，它会有 20 欧姆的输出阻抗，snoy 是唯一的选择，或者一些非常旧的 LG。

IEMs with type c cables - the worst of all worlds, wack quality and reliability. But I made my own cable with a known DAC to negate the flaws of this approach since I need a DAC for my PC as well.

采用 C 型电缆的入耳式耳机 - 世界上最差的，质量和可靠性都很差。但我用已知的 DAC 制作了自己的电缆，以消除这种方法的缺陷，因为我的 PC 也需要一个 DAC。

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>>109574945

thats a big cot

那是一张大床

consoomer bros, what's the next big thing?

consoomer 兄弟，下一件大事是什么？

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>>109574945

Morbidly a beast.

病态的野兽。

>>109574945

FOXFUCKER FOX FUCKER

>>109574967

getting toxoplasmosis from a cat

从猫身上感染弓形虫病

I'm looking for a new headset, is there a general thread for that as well?

我正在寻找一款新耳机，是否也有通用的线索？

>>109575173

it keeps dying.

它不断死去。

I bought a pair of Gates for the notPekora on the box

我买了一对 Gates 是为了盒子上的 notPekora

>>109575184

sad, I'll suppose I will just ask here then

悲伤，我想我会在这里问

I mainly want active noise canceling for my PC, I play games so spatial audio is also important. I am not too picky when it comes to music or anything else, any recommendations? in 2026 I don't think I would need to pay more than a 100 euros but 200 is fine too, 300 is pushing it.

我主要想要我的电脑有主动降噪功能，我玩游戏，所以空间音频也很重要。我对音乐或其他方面不太挑剔，有什么建议吗？到 2026 年，我认为我不需要支付超过 100 欧元，但 200 欧元也可以，300 欧元已经很贵了。

bluetooth should be fine but a dedicated dongle is preferred (quality and reliability should be higher if I'm not mistaken)

蓝牙应该没问题，但首选专用适配器（如果我没记错的话，质量和可靠性应该更高）

>>109575173

The current meta

当前元

Sony H6 Air for open-back

索尼 H6 Air 开放式

HyperX Cloud III S for closed-back

HyperX Cloud III S 封闭式

I know several anons were waiting on an update but here they are

我知道有几个匿名者正在等待更新，但他们在这里

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Love you Sharur.

爱你沙鲁尔。

>>109575235

You've already shown what they look like. Tell us how they sound

您已经展示了它们的样子。告诉我们它们听起来如何

>>109575235

Thought about getting third Witch IEM this year but cant think of good design and which IEM to use as base. Wanna try p40/p50 or some full BA set but not sure if the shell is as good as q1pro/g10.

考虑今年购买第三个 Witch IEM，但想不出好的设计以及使用哪个 IEM 作为基础。想尝试 p40/p50 或一些完整的 BA 套装，但不确定外壳是否与 q1pro/g10 一样好。

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>>109574967

Fox mushrooms, endgame.

狐狸蘑菇，终局。

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>>109575267

not real planar, BA POS, avoid

非真正的平面，BA POS，避免

>>109575250

better than the stock G10's unironically, also been only using 1 type of tips with them

讽刺的是，比库存 G10 更好，也只使用一种类型的提示

>>109575267

I like the customization options but they are a bit much

我喜欢定制选项，但有点太多了

>>109575275

What about Foxmobile?

福克斯移动怎么样？

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>>109575221

>in 2026 I don't think I would need to pay more than a 100 euros but 200 is fine too

>在 2026 年，我认为我不需要支付超过 100 欧元，但 200 欧元也可以

for ANC?

对于非国大？

with good enough wireless connection for gaming??

有足够好的无线连接来玩游戏吗？

uuuh...

>>109575229

and the sony H9 (or something comparable)? H6 is wired only and I'd like something wireless

和索尼H9（或类似的东西）？ H6 仅是有线的，我想要无线的

the hyperx doesn't have active noise canceling

hyperx 没有主动降噪功能

I also don't need the latest toy, something from 2023 that works fine will do

我也不需要最新的玩具，2023 年的一些性能良好的玩具就可以了

>>109575305

I don't know what the market is like, so I assume 100-200 is a fair price and wireless has been solved for many years now

我不知道市场怎么样，所以我认为100-200是一个合理的价格，无线已经解决很多年了

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nigga has everything fox'ed

黑鬼拥有一切狐狸精

>>109575301

Perfect for driving to dacha to pick fox mushrooms.

非常适合开车去别墅采摘狐狸蘑菇。

>>109575221

Just get IEMs with good isolation, like Aful Explorer or Truthear Pure/Hexa. Bluetooth is completely unsuitable for gaming. Way too much latency.

只需购买具有良好隔离性能的入耳式耳机，例如 Aful Explorer 或 Truthear Pure/Hexa。蓝牙完全不适合玩游戏。延迟太多了。

>>109575275

Chanterelles are tasty.

鸡油菌很好吃。

>>109575293

Dont you have fullBA EPZ custom set yourself? Or what model is the third Fox IEM?

您自己没有全套 BA EPZ 定制套件吗？或者说第三款Fox IEM是什么型号？

>>109575267

p50 pro and p70 are coming.

p50 pro 和 p70 即将到来。

>>109575314

>I don't know what the market is like

>不知道市场怎么样

market is "it is not happening" like

市场“这没有发生”就像

>>109575377

>Bluetooth is completely unsuitable for gaming. Way too much latency.

>蓝牙完全不适合玩游戏。延迟太多了。

False. In 2026, it's been just fine for several years now, especially with FPS games.

错误的。到了 2026 年，已经好几年了，尤其是 FPS 游戏。

Something like audeze maxwell maybe?

也许是奥德兹·麦克斯韦之类的？

>>109575475

How low exactly your are your standards?

你的标准到底有多低？

>>109575494

How anal retentive exactly are you about every single metric about everything you do?

您对自己所做的每件事的每一个指标的记忆力到底有多强？

>>109575475

>especially with FPS games

>尤其是FPS游戏

why especially with FPS games?

为什么尤其是 FPS 游戏？

>>109575595

Because the latency famously doesn't matter for FPS games.

因为众所周知，延迟对于 FPS 游戏来说并不重要。

>>109575595

fast-paced, many things going on at any given moment, situational awareness, etc.

快节奏、任何特定时刻都会发生很多事情、态势感知等。

>>109575595

Because even 10 year old bluetooth headsets are good enough for FPS games

因为即使是 10 年的蓝牙耳机也足以玩 FPS 游戏

>>109575645

>Because even 10 year old bluetooth headsets

>因为即使是10年前的蓝牙耳机

such as?

比如？

>>109575645

Except when you turn on the mic and audio becomes mono.

除非您打开麦克风并且音频变为单声道。

>>109575680

any that are 2.4 GHz

任何 2.4 GHz 的

>>109575684

such as?

比如？

>>109575705

Such as every bluetooth device made to this day.

例如迄今为止生产的所有蓝牙设备。

>>109575595

Because today's FPS games are basically lowest quality slop.

因为现在的FPS游戏基本上都是质量最低的渣滓。

I just remembered that normgroids call everything wireless bluetooth. Just assume he meant 2.4GHz all along.

我只记得normgroids把一切都称为无线蓝牙。假设他一直指的是 2.4GHz。

>>109575377

I don't want to hear anything from my surroundings at all, which is why I want ANC (which is why I want headphones)

我根本不想听到周围的任何声音，这就是我想要 ANC 的原因（这就是我想要耳机的原因）

a dongle is preferred over bluetooth for stability. I'm not a competitive pro, I don't care about 0.002 picosecond latency

就稳定性而言，加密狗优于蓝牙。我不是职业选手，我不在乎 0.002 皮秒的延迟

>>109575474

which is why I'm fine with a 3-5 year old model if it has what I want

这就是为什么我喜欢 3-5 年的模型，如果它有我想要的东西

looks like the NAND shortages have reached the audiosphere

看来 NAND 短缺已经蔓延到音响领域

>>109575489

they look a bit overkill for me but I'll dive into them tomorrow

它们对我来说有点大材小用，但我明天会深入研究它们

>>109575741

nigger read: >>109575221 I mentioned I prefer a dedicated dongle but this general is too busy shitflinging and making things up like every general

黑鬼读：>>109575221 我提到过我更喜欢专用的加密狗，但这位将军太忙了，像每个将军一样胡编乱造

inzone h9 2 looks good, might just get that if I don't find anything better

inzone h9 2 看起来不错，如果我找不到更好的东西，可能会买它

>wireless (dongle)

>无线（加密狗）

>ANC

>good earcups/pads

>好的耳罩/耳垫

>good mic

>好麦克风

but I suppose it's overpriced according to the internet, what would be a cheaper alternative?

但我认为根据互联网价格过高，有什么更便宜的替代品吗？

I’m off to bed, I'll see you ballsniffers later

我去睡觉了，稍后见各位嗅球者

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1786921466915348.png

>>109575794

>I don't want to hear anything from my surroundings at all

>我根本不想听到周围的任何声音

Etymotic.

ANC performs much worse, even the best implementations. Matching the cancellation algorithm to the peculiarities of a given driver is extremely hard and always will leave a lot to be desired.

即使是最好的实现，ANC 的性能也要差得多。将取消算法与给定驱动程序的特性相匹配是非常困难的，并且总是会有很多不足之处。

>wireless (dongle)

>无线（加密狗）

Dongles are good, much better than BT.

加密狗很好，比 BT 好得多。

>>109575696

so not bluetooth?

所以不是蓝牙？

>>109575794

Bro I dare you to play over raw bluetooth right now, especially with the mic on. The dongle is absolutely not just for stability.

兄弟，我敢说你现在就可以通过原始蓝牙播放，尤其是在麦克风打开的情况下。加密狗绝对不仅仅是为了稳定性。

Curious. I got 4 answers

好奇的。我得到了 4 个答案

>>109575602

One sarcastic but at least sensible

一种讽刺但至少是明智的

>>109575639

>>109575645

>>109575740

and 3 60 IQ ones....

还有 3 个 60 IQ 的......

you people should really do better

你们真的应该做得更好

>>109575856

you name one yourself, it works.

你自己命名一个，它有效。

>>109575901

said sub-21 IQ imbecile

都说智商低于21低能

>>109575901

you're really dying on this hill huh?

你真的会死在这座山上吗？

>>109575794

>they look a bit overkill for me but I'll dive into them tomorrow

>它们对我来说有点大材小用，但我明天会深入研究它们

maxwell 2 is the same price as h9 2 and probably better in every way but I've never looked it up. I only heard people being really positive about maxwells for a while.

maxwell 2 的价格与 h9 2 相同，并且可能在各方面都更好，但我从未查过。我只听说人们对麦克斯韦持积极态度有一段时间了。

Headpos law strikes again.

Headpos 法再次来袭。

PMP request

PMP 请求

>budget

<$220

>features

Can't have wifi, work wont allow it. would like flac support. I'm fine with touchscreen but would at least like physical buttons for track control.

没有wifi，工作不允许。想要 flac 支持。我对触摸屏很满意，但至少喜欢用于轨道控制的物理按钮。

>past gear

>过去的齿轮

I've had the Hifi Walker H2, everything was fine until the fucking headphone jack stopped working. Looking for a replacement now.

我有 Hifi Walker H2，一切都很好，直到该死的耳机插孔停止工作。现在正在寻找替代品。

>>109576076

>Can't have wifi

> 没有wifi

Maam, that kills every recent option other than those cheapo snowsky with clanky UI

女士，除了那些UI简陋的廉价雪天之外，这杀死了所有最近的选择

>>109576767

*clumsy

>>109576767

Yeah, honestly a FiiO JM21 or a HiBy R4 would've been great, but now I'm between the Shanling M0 or Hidiz AP80.

是的，老实说，FiiO JM21 或 HiBy R4 就很棒了，但现在我在 Shanling M0 或 Hidiz AP80 之间。

>>109576903

>Shanling M0

>山灵M0

Those are cute, get one.

很可爱，入手一只吧

Since wireless earbuds with real audio quality don't seem to exist. What is a pmp with good on board audio that is small enough to clip on to a sleeve while I run?

由于具有真正音质的无线耳机似乎并不存在。什么是具有良好板载音频且足够小，可以在跑步时夹在袖子上的 pmp？

I tried the TempoTec V1 in the OP, it comes a with a clip but its too heavy

我在 OP 中尝试过 TempoTec V1，它带有一个夹子，但太重了

Thinking something like the ipod shuffle or sansa clip was, I wouldn't mind it not having a screen and working like a shuffle.

想想像 ipod shuffle 或 sansa Clip 这样的东西，我不介意它没有屏幕并且像 shuffle 一样工作。

It's our queen's birthday! Wish her a happy birthday, /iemg/!

这是我们女王的生日！祝她生日快乐，/iemg/！

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1786939712559255.jpg

Is there a repository of filter sizes of IEMs anywhere? Would like to know what replacement filters I have bought for a particular set works for other sets.

是否有 IEM 过滤器尺寸的存储库？想知道我为特定套件购买的哪些替换过滤器适用于其他套件。

>>109577401

That's a man

那是个男人

>>109569764

Bump

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1786940709098475.jpg

>>109576903

cheap android DAPs are still bit clunky to use

廉价的 Android DAP 使用起来仍然有点笨拙

- thicker than phones

- 比手机还厚

- old smaller size screens with not so good contrast

- 旧的较小尺寸屏幕，对比度不太好

- apps are designed to work with 6+inch slab phones or tablets

- 应用程序设计用于 6 英寸以上平板手机或平板电脑

- still not that portable as cheaper stuff

- 仍然不如便宜的东西那么便携

>>109577297

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RSWki87nKw

maybe something from that, if u want to use it for stuff like audiobooks u need to do bit more research

也许是这样，如果你想将它用于有声读物之类的东西，你需要做更多的研究

>>109577469

probably air pods pro 3 but honestly entire segment is cheap few years of use at best due to battery health type of shit and its better to buy something cheap like moondrop puding or nothing buds

可能是air pods pro 3，但说实话，由于电池健康问题，整个细分市场最多只能使用几年，而且最好买一些便宜的东西，比如月光布丁或什么都没有。

>>109577297

Snowsky Echo nano + the clip accessory

Snowsky Echo nano + 夹子配件

my twitter is infested by asians with AI generated profile pics shilling modern era trinkets

我的推特上充斥着人工智能生成的个人资料图片和现代小饰品的亚洲人

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1786944012663130.png

>>109577717

>X user.

>X 用户。

>hates a particular IEM they personally never even heard.

>讨厌他们个人从未听说过的特定入耳式耳机。

>assumes all anime profile pics are AI slop.

>假设所有动漫头像都是AI slop。

what are you really bragging about?

你到底在吹牛什么？

>>109577760

>anime profile pic is ai generated, frankly it must be something wrong with asians because they all use ai in their profile pics

>动漫个人资料图片是人工智能生成的，坦率地说，亚洲人一定有问题，因为他们的个人资料图片都使用人工智能

>i have that iem, i even have cable from ivipq but in bronze color

>我有那个 iem，我什至有来自 ivipq 的电缆，但是青铜色的

Chinks are running bot accounts on X with slopers posting pics of iems, cables, gear 24/7 without ad badge

中国佬在 X 上运行机器人帐户，斜线者 24/7 发布 IEM、电缆、装备的照片，没有广告徽章

>>109577799

>they all use ai in their profile pics

>他们都在个人资料图片中使用人工智能

meaning you *think* you know this as absolute fact, which makes you an actual schizo for being so adamant about the most mundane shit.

这意味着你“认为”你知道这是绝对的事实，这让你成为一个真正的精神分裂者，因为你对最平凡的事情如此坚定。

now we can just say your post is AI, because I know this for a fact. just because.

现在我们可以说你的帖子是人工智能，因为我知道这是事实。只是因为。

cheapest usbc dongle with 4,4mm socket that i can use for desktop aplication? preferably with volume control because i will not risk destroying my ears with jeet vibecoded windows. Dont need anything fancy like EQ or power, simple dongle with 4.4 for iems and volume control

最便宜的带 4.4 毫米插座的 USB 适配器，我可以将其用于桌面应用程序吗？最好有音量控制，因为我不会冒用 Jeet Vivicoded 窗口损坏耳朵的风险。不需要任何花哨的东西，如 EQ 或电源，带有 4.4 的简单适配器用于 IEM 和音量控制

>>109578552

Black pearl.

黑珍珠。

>>109578558

>Cirrus hump

>卷云驼峰

Hard pass. Black Pearl is $40 because it sounds like it.

艰难的通过。黑珍珠号售价 40 美元，因为听起来就是这样。

>>109578750

>>109578558

fiio echo nano? is like 50usd + i have 10usd code on hifigo.

飞傲回声纳米？相当于 50 美元 + 我在 hifigo 上有 10 美元代码。

>>109578750

An update fixed the hump long ago.

很久以前的更新修复了驼峰。

>4,4mm

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1786960045947156.png

>>109578761

An update to the CS43131 chip? Source?

CS43131 芯片的更新吗？来源？

>>109578757

I said hard pass, but truth be told, the ability to load your own EQ onto it is kind of a big deal.

我说的是很难通过，但说实话，将自己的情商加载到上面的能力是一件大事。

>>109578823

The hump is from DRE. Disabling it removes the hump but raises the noise floor a little. Still good though.

驼峰来自 DRE。禁用它可以消除驼峰，但会稍微提高本底噪声。不过还是不错的。

https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/review-of-trn-black-pearl-portable-usb-dac-headphone-amp-with-10-band-peq.64331/

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1786960522823780.png

I found my old ipod nano 7g and I've been having some fun with it, it's refreshing to not have my phone on me if I want my tunes while outside. The size constraint and older hardware digs at me sometimes especially with newer audiobooks since even if the codecs match it will shit the bed with longer single file books. But when I have the right music for the day loaded it's nice, and it's got radio. I'll probably still end up getting something like an R1 so I can stop fiddling with itunes and the difficulty making an AAC library for it.

我找到了我的旧 ipod nano 7g，我一直在玩它，如果我想在外面听音乐，不用带手机，这真是令人耳目一新。尺寸限制和较旧的硬件有时会困扰我，特别是对于较新的有声读物，因为即使编解码器匹配，它也会在较长的单文件书籍中拉屎。但当我加载了适合当天的音乐时，那就太好了，而且它还有收音机。我可能最终还是会得到像 R1 这样的东西，这样我就可以不再摆弄 itunes 以及为其制作 AAC 库的困难了。

Btw is Opus the choice over AAC these days for lossy files?

顺便说一句，现在对于有损文件来说，Opus 是 AAC 的选择吗？

>>109575929

they're a lot bulkier than the h9 2 which I don't think I'd prefer

它们比 h9 2 笨重得多，我认为我不喜欢

>maxwell 2 is the same price

>maxwell 2同价

in the netherlands, h9 is 200 euro and maxwell starts at 330, so it's a significant difference (a difference I might only notice in my wallet and not my ears) I'm going with the h9 2

在荷兰，h9 为 200 欧元，而 maxwell 起价为 330 欧元，因此这是一个显着差异（我可能只会在钱包中注意到差异，而不是在耳朵中注意到）我会选择 h9 2

thanks

>>109577548

Thx

can any brasil fags tell me if these are worth it?

有巴西同性恋者可以告诉我这些是否值得吗？

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1786969000277632.png

>>109578552

Moondrop dawn pro

月落黎明专业版

>>109578899

ipod nano has radio? I should look into this... been just using spotify offline when I run with my bulky phone.

ipod nano 有收音机吗？我应该调查一下这个......当我用笨重的手机跑步时，我只是离线使用 Spotify。

Sony MDR-XB55AP vs JBL Endurance Run 3

索尼 MDR-XB55AP 与 JBL Endurance Run 3

both around 20 euros. what do you guys think

都是20欧元左右。你们觉得怎么样

https://versus.com/en/jbl-endurance-run-vs-sony-mdr-xb55ap

>>109578797

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1786975928109004.png

>>109578797

i'm choosing 4.4 mm.

我选择4.4毫米。

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1786976220963658.jpg

>>109579917

>samefagging

the sony are very aesthetic

sony的非常有审美

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1786976511317123.jpg

>>109579917

both dogshit but sony forgot to tune ear gain in

都是狗屎，但索尼忘了调整耳朵增益

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1786977758478389.png

>>109580308

just eq

只是情商

>>109579423

don't need to be Brazilian to say, "fuck those, get Hydro"

不需要像巴西人一样说“去他妈的，去Hydro吧”

because, get Hydro.

因为，得到海德鲁。

>>109580096

ahh, enjoying the finer things in life, I see

啊，享受生活中美好的事物，我明白了

>>109581061

>don't need to be Brazilian to say, "fuck those, get Hydro"

>不需要像巴西人一样说“去他妈的那些，去Hydro吧”

Yeah, you need to be retarded.

是的，你需要落后。

>>109581138

Good one. Only a NEET would say that

好一个。只有 NEET 人才会这么说

I'm looking to finally upgrade my Moondrop Aria.

我希望最终升级我的 Moondrop Aria。

I am very happy with them so something with a similar sound signature would be nice.

我对它们非常满意，所以具有相似声音特征的东西会很好。

Budget is $200 USD, will primary use with my phone and Hiby R1.

预算为 200 美元，主要用于我的手机和 Hiby R1。

Something that uses the same 2 pin connection would be nice so I can reuse my cables if I wanted.

使用相同 2 针连接的东西会很好，这样我就可以根据需要重复使用我的电缆。

>>109580308

yeah, too much pinna is a bitch huh?

是啊，太多的耳廓是个婊子吧？

How come Shiroi doesn't have a 1:1 figure?

白井怎么没有1:1的人偶呢？

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1787005103325549.jpg

>>109582129

Wrong general.

将军错了。

couldn't find hpg so ill just post my abomination here. My wireless Hedd D1 is operational.

找不到 HPG 太糟糕了，只是在这里发布我的憎恶。我的无线 Hedd D1 可以运行。

附件: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1787005241687509.webm

>>109582155

You can get a custom short cable on ali. I have a much more elegant solution with mini-xlr to mmcx adapters and ifi go pod, but I simply don't use headphones much.

您可以在阿里上获得定制的短电缆。我有一个更优雅的解决方案，带有 mini-xlr 到 mmcx 适配器和 ifi go pod，但我不太使用耳机。

>>109578823

You can escape the buggy DACs meme with jcally ap7, if you also give up the 4.4mm meme.

如果您也放弃 4.4mm meme，则可以使用 jcally ap7 来逃避有缺陷的 DAC meme。

>>109582146

>she's wearing an iem

>她戴着一个iem

it's on-topic

这是切中主题的

>>109582155

>wireless

>wires hanging

>电线悬挂

what

>>109582155

And here I thought /iemg/ were the most mentally ill audiofags on /g/

在这里，我认为 /iemg/ 是 /g/ 上最有精神疾病的音频

Good morning, I started to work on new IEM revolution, the first true neutral IEM in the world

早上好，我开始致力于新的 IEM 革命，世界上第一个真正的中性 IEM

There exist neutral IEM but never are really neutral, there is margin of error in FR, but my IEM will be true neutral with EQ to Harman IE 2019 neutral curve

存在中性 IEM，但从来都不是真正的中性，FR 中存在误差范围，但我的 IEM 将是真正的中性，EQ 为 Harman IE 2019 中性曲线

It will be EQ preset for 7Hz Salnotes Zero 2 but it will not be for free because it is my intellectual property, but it is a cheap IEM and EQ will also be cheap so the price for the best IEM in the world will be very attractive almost free

它将为 7Hz Salnotes Zero 2 预设 EQ，但它不会是免费的，因为它是我的知识产权，但它是一个便宜的 IEM，EQ 也很便宜，所以世界上最好的 IEM 的价格将非常有吸引力，几乎免费

what do you think?

你怎么认为？

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1787007578028067.png

>>109582427

Read the EQ guide lil bro.

阅读 EQ 指南，小兄弟。

>>109582332

it* could be wearing earbuds. so not really

它*可能戴着耳塞。所以不是真的

>>109581305

just go with what is new from moondrop, which is silicon ($250) or chu3 ($25). chu3 will be every bit as good as old aria, budget 1dds are great nowadays. silicon represents new fotm which isn't inherently a bad thing, but don't overspend thinking it's guaranteed "better." the silicon unironically comes with a bad stock cable, might not fit smaller ears, and the sound is subject to your hearing

只需选择 Moondrop 的新产品，即硅（250 美元）或 chu3（25 美元）。 chu3 会和旧的 aria 一样好，现在预算 1dds 很棒。硅代表了新的形式，这本质上并不是一件坏事，但不要过度认为它一定会“更好”。讽刺的是，硅片配备了劣质电缆，可能不适合较小的耳朵，而且声音取决于您的听力

>>109582590

>Aria upgrade

>咏叹调升级

>"just go with Moondrop's $25 set, should be just as good

>“就选 Moondrop 的 25 美元套装吧，应该也一样好

>>109582350

In a manner of speaking, of course.

当然，从某种意义上来说。

>>109571923

but did you EQ properly

但你情商正确吗

>>109572950

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1787013139876567.png

>>109575852

>>109575794

This. ANC a shit, you need isolation. Enjoy having your ear canals sodomized.

这。 ANC 太糟糕了，你需要隔离。 享受鸡奸你的耳道的乐趣。

Apple AirPod Cameras spotted for the first time

Apple AirPod 摄像头首次被发现

https://www.macrumors.com/2026/08/17/camera-equipped-airpods-macos-26-7/

>>109559991

Thanks Anon I really like this one

谢谢阿农，我真的很喜欢这个

Got another big black cable from Yongse, and this time it’s a 4.4mm-to-4.4mm interconnect.

从 Yongse 得到了另一条黑色大电缆，这次是 4.4 毫米至 4.4 毫米互连线。

I’m pairing it with the Yongse Melody A Type-C cable and running it through different DACs, amps, and DAPs to see how these combinations behave. So far so good, techs are crazy.

我将其与 Yongse Melody A Type-C 线缆配对，并通过不同的 DAC、放大器和 DAP 运行，看看这些组合的表现如何。到目前为止一切顺利，技术人员都很疯狂。

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1787026753219719.jpg

>>109584166

what's the point in thick and gaudy cables?

又粗又花哨的电缆有什么意义？

>>109582155

i think cable to small DAC/AMP is still more elegant solution kek

我认为连接小型 DAC/AMP 的电缆仍然是更优雅的解决方案 kek

>>109581305

if u by upgrade mean something simillar or just new sound? i would just go with something shilled here or on reddit with your budget and that is it, most shit have 2pin connectors

如果你所说的升级是指类似的东西还是只是新的声音？我会根据你的预算选择这里或 Reddit 上的东西，就是这样，大多数东西都有 2 针连接器

>>109584166

chinks democratizing audiophile cables and i like it

中国人使发烧友电缆民主化，我喜欢它

>>109584352

better sound quality, that called psychoacoustics

更好的音质，这就是心理声学

I found some sweet unc tech. It's a bt media controller. It's not variable, but it has a volume knob. It's meant for bicycles, but it fits on a carabiner (when screwed shut) pretty nicely. Instead of a watch, I just have this dangle off my belt buckle.

我发现了一些很棒的北卡罗来纳大学技术。这是一个 bt 媒体控制器。它不是可变的，但有一个音量旋钮。它适用于自行车，但它非常适合安装在登山扣上（拧紧时）。我没有戴手表，而是把它挂在皮带扣上。

I'm a super sayan unc.

我是超级萨亚人UNC。

>>109584352

they're wide so the electricity glides more smoothly.

它们很宽，因此电力传输更顺畅。

>>109582155

oh, so this goes under the furry suit.

哦，所以这是在毛茸茸的套装下面。

>>109578837

>>109578750

i went with TRN just because i can buy it localy on amazon and it cost me like 25USD after coupon code, i will look into that fix

我选择了 TRN 只是因为我可以在亚马逊本地购买它，并且在使用优惠券代码后花费了 25 美元，我会研究这个修复

>>109584507

it's a decent pick. now I want one

这是一个不错的选择。现在我想要一个

>>109584352

better audio quality and detail, tracks with large numbers of instruments feel less claustrophic and intimate since they aren't all being squeezed through a tiny wire at the same time.

更好的音频质量和细节，带有大量乐器的音轨感觉不那么幽闭和亲密，因为它们并不是同时通过一根细电线挤压的。

>>109584570

so exactly why 2.5mm cables squash the imaging a lot. makes sense, anon.

这就是为什么 2.5 毫米电缆会严重压缩成像的原因。有道理，阿昂。

>>109584655

Ever consider that AB testing only works if ESP doesn't work?

有没有想过 AB 测试只有在 ESP 不起作用的情况下才起作用？

>>109575301

you might not need sissygrill with 1200i

1200i 可能不需要 sissygrill

i dont own any ziigat or xenns pos.

我没有任何 ziigat 或 xenns pos。

>>109584383

>psychoacoustics

which study are you talking about?

你说的是哪项研究？

>>109570400

I kid you fucking not I love these little pieces of shit so much with the Apple dongle and with this EQ they sound like 90% to perfection and I prefer them over some actual IEMs and brand name headphones I tried.

我他妈的没骗你，我非常喜欢这些小东西，用苹果适配器和这个EQ，它们听起来90%完美，我更喜欢它们，而不是我尝试过的一些实际的入耳式耳机和品牌耳机。

I just have no idea what it is about them.

我只是不知道他们是怎么回事。

Also I listen a lot at work and they let me hear whenever a coworker is creeping up on me.

我在工作中也经常倾听，每当有同事偷偷靠近我时，他们都会让我听到。

Can someone recommend some "proper" and pricier headphones which will sound very similar to my setup but are over-ear and open-back?

有人可以推荐一些“合适的”且价格更高的耳机吗？这些耳机听起来与我的设置非常相似，但是耳罩式和开放式的？

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1787038983090447.jpg

Is this still considered good in 2026?

到了2026年这还算好吗？

It's not in the USB-C DAC list anymore...

它不再出现在 USB-C DAC 列表中......

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1787041738098216.png

>>109585208

audeze lcd 5

奥德兹液晶屏5

>>109585409

>5499 €

nigga what

黑哥你啥意思

>>109585432

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlXIoQeKQb4

>>109581061

quite right. Pentaconn plugs for the most part for me. direct silver plating. 4.4 mm only obviously.

完全正确。对我来说大部分都是 Pentaconn 插头。直接镀银。显然只有4.4毫米。

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1787048180661630.jpg

>>109585450

>shills 5usd akg shitbud and 5k usd sumitfi tier flagship planar

>先令 5 美元 akg Shitbud 和 5k 美元 sumitfi 级旗舰平面

Ist probable that hardest EQ + 5 usd shitbud shill here have fugaku or storm for daily use

可能最难的 EQ + 5 美元的 Shitbud shill 这里有 Fugaku 或 Storm 供日常使用

and now we wait

现在我们等待

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1787050655083540.jpg

>Etymotic DF + tilt (XR tuning)

>Etymotic DF + 倾斜（XR 调音）

>Harman IE 2019

>哈曼 IE 2019

>IEF 2020

>IEF 2025

>SoundGuys

>5128 DF + tilt (Harman MoA 2025)

>5128 DF + 倾斜（Harman MoA 2025）

>JM-1 DF + 10dB tilt + bass shelf

>JM-1 DF+10dB倾斜+低音架

>JM-1 DF + 10dB tilt

>JM-1 DF+10dB倾斜

>Headpos.com DF + tilt

>Headpos.com DF + 倾斜

>PEQdB Diamond

>PEQdB 钻石

Who would win in a real blind test?

在真正的盲测中谁会获胜？

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1787064722560563.png

>>109587366

probably Headpos.com with tilt

可能是 Headpos.com 倾斜

>>109587380

I can't see it being any better than JM-1, people with brighter HRTFs and hearing loss will likely find it too dull. The main difference is in the area with the highest anatomic and length mode variation anyway.

我看不出它比 JM-1 更好，HRTF 较亮且有听力损失的人可能会觉得它太沉闷了。无论如何，主要区别在于解剖结构和长度模式变化最大的区域。

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1787065280325818.png

>>109585208

Schizophrenic EQ profile

精神分裂症情商概况

>>109587366

Harman IE 2019 with mid boost

Harman IE 2019 带中提升

>>109587424

well the results would be all over the place for sure since individual anatomies vary, but when it comes to transparency and "I have nothing in my ears" sensation, the DF targets should take the lead

好吧，由于个人的解剖结构不同，结果肯定会到处都是，但当谈到透明度和“我耳朵里没有任何东西”的感觉时，DF 目标应该领先

>>109587424

more suitable for overear stuff desu, with lots of positional variations, peaks and resonances it is better to run them bit darker with treble. I personally can take much more treble when using IEMs so bit brighter target for them is all right

更适合耳罩式的东西 desu，有很多位置变化、峰值和共鸣，最好将高音调暗一些。我个人在使用入耳式耳机时可以承受更多的高音，所以对它们来说明亮一点的目标就可以了

>>109587366

>blind test

>盲测

It is a flawed concept

这是一个有缺陷的概念

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBc_HtZ9038

Hmm why are the memedrop prices different in my 2 phones with the same ali account?

嗯，为什么我的 2 部手机使用相同的阿里帐户，memedrop 价格不同？

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1787069766145639.png

every pos should use pentaconn ear plugs. dont care about the other end.

每个 pos 都应该使用 pentaconn 耳塞。不关心另一端。

>>109587898

That's silly

那太傻了

the copes people come up with just to justify buying overpriced cables lmao...

人们想出的应对措施只是为了证明购买价格过高的电缆是合理的...

>>109588013

Apps nowadays check the cellphone model. The newer the model, the pricier it gets, as it assumes you aren't a brokie.

现在的应用程序可以检查手机型号。型号越新，价格就越高，因为它假设您不是经纪人。

>>109587424

headphones.com:

>do not trust single line graphs, especially in the treble

>不要相信单线图，尤其是高音部分

also headphones.com:

还有耳机网站：

>here is our new target that differs from

>这是我们的新目标，它不同于

our previous target in the treble only

我们之前的目标只是高音

>>109587366

hp df and jm-1 are one and the same, as you don't read graphs above 6 kHz anyway and rely only on your ears while eqing that area. jm-1 vs 5128 df is interesting, though

hp df 和 jm-1 是一回事，因为无论如何您都不会阅读 6 kHz 以上的图表，并且在均衡该区域时仅依靠您的耳朵。不过，jm-1 与 5128 df 的比较很有趣

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1787070910741306.png

>>109587366

Win with who, a herd of goyim? Literally doesn't matter. Your EQ shouldn't look like some target and shouldn't even be the same on two different IEMs.

与谁一起获胜，一群非犹太人？从字面上看并不重要。您的 EQ 不应该看起来像某个目标，甚至在两个不同的 IEM 上也不应该相同。

If you are not EQing your shit to be flat you are doing it wrong

如果你没有将你的粪便均衡化，那么你就做错了

>>109588451

flat is relative to the volume and program material, so i bet you have a bunch of EQs?

平淡是相对于音量和节目材料而言的，所以我打赌你有一堆EQ？

>>109588451

flat in the treble, flat in the bass

高音平坦，低音平坦

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1787073439030327.png

https://apos.audio/products/sjy-argos-electrostatic-headphones

holy techs, iems just isn't as cool as headphones. Last few weeks is constant stream of cool new headphones. And for iems: chu3 slop, plastic tanchjim slop, ai generated anime iem slop, crinacle colab slop. Yeah, its over.

神圣的技术，入耳式耳机并不像耳机那么酷。过去几周，酷炫的新耳机不断涌现。对于 iem：chu3 slop、塑料 tanchjim slop、ai 生成的动漫 iem slop、crinacle colab slop。是的，结束了。

>>109589135

we have new targets tho, can't wait for the new hp.com 2027 population average with 30dB preference bounds

不过，我们有新的目标，迫不及待地等待新的 hp.com 2027 年人口平均值（偏好界限为 30dB）

its true that headpos developments have been winning lately. not good

确实，headpos 的发展最近一直在取得胜利。不好

>>109589135

>ai generated anime iem slop, crinacle colab slop

>ai 生成动漫 iem slop、crinacle colab slop

literally better than dogshit you linked

确实比你链接的狗屎更好

>>109589316

>https://apos.audio/products/sjy-argos-electrostatic-headphones

nta but you haven't heard the dogshit he linked.

NTA，但你还没有听过他所链接的狗屎。

>>109589352

well he didn't hear ai anime slop and crin collabs either, so?

好吧，他也没有听到 ai 日本动漫 slop 和 crin 合作，所以？

> chipping paint from Moondrop, translucent plastic from Tanchjim, ai generated box art and Crinacle stamp on random 3d printed set is enough

> Moondrop 的剥落油漆、Tanchjim 的半透明塑料、AI 生成的盒子艺术和随机 3D 打印集上的 Crinacle 印章就足够了

Grim, chinks are getting lazy because IEM customers are lazy too. I mean look at Moondrop, most r&d went into planar headphones and electrostatic set, their offer for IEM guys: nostalgia cash grab, crinacle colab cash grab and meme sub brand cash grab. Meanwhile headpos guys will get electrostat set despite stax guys being like 1% of entire consumer base and golden driver susvara competition.

严峻的是，中国人正变得懒惰，因为 IEM 客户也懒惰。我的意思是看看 Moondrop，大部分研发都投入到了平面耳机和静电耳机上，他们为 IEM 玩家提供的服务是：怀旧抢钱、crinacle colab 抢钱和 Meme 子品牌抢钱。与此同时，尽管 stax 人员仅占整个消费者群的 1%，并且与黄金车手 susvara 竞争，但 headpos 人员仍将设置静电装置。

>>109589425

you sure about that?

你确定吗？

>>109589475

obviosuly

>>109588451

i boost the bass because it makes my neck tingle :)

我提高低音，因为它让我的脖子发麻:)

Crin won.

克林赢了。

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1787084632534452.jpg

>>109585338

i have 2 of them and they sound good

我有 2 个，听起来不错

>>109588119

My phones are a S20FE and an S25U. Prices are lower in the S20. I didn't think the chink would do something this low.

我的手机是 S20FE 和 S25U。 S20 的价格较低。我没想到这个中国佬会做出这么低级的事。

>>109590040

New turdear on the left?

左边是新的turdear吗？

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1787085164811060.jpg

Can’t decide between which single DD set to get: Dunu Kima 2, Kadenz, or Origin?

无法决定选择哪一个 DD 套装：Dunu Kima 2、Kadenz 或 Origin？

you basically listed them in order of dark->bright. they all have a bit of a warm nice midrange, but the tilt varies from there

您基本上按照暗->亮的顺序列出了它们。它们都有一点温暖漂亮的中音，但倾斜度有所不同

>>109590179

meant for>>109590120

意味着>>109590120

>>109590120

All horrible. Budget single DDs mog them all these days.

一切都太可怕了。这些天预算单身DD一直困扰着他们。

>>109590120

>>109590227

EA500LM is the only answer

EA500LM是唯一的答案

>>109590113

>keyx

>gate

>zero

no? the only thing new is the white pure

不？唯一新的是白色纯净

>>109590326

forgot le pic

忘了照片

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1787087377496479.jpg

>>109590323

unironically less shrill and more palatable than Defiant

讽刺的是，比 Defiant 更不刺耳，更可口

>>109590362

Looks neat. I should have waited to buy this version.

看起来很整洁。我应该等待购买这个版本。

>>109590362

>Clear cable

>透明电缆

Yikes. Yellowing imminent.

哎呀。即将泛黄。

>>109590179

All the darker iems I’ve tried had bad sibilance to them (explorer and pure). I don’t know if that’s just a coincidence. I like the accessories of the dunu a lot though and it’s only $72 on aliexpress.

我尝试过的所有较暗的耳机（探索者和纯净者）都有不好的齿音。我不知道这是否只是巧合。不过我非常喜欢 dunu 的配件，而且在速卖通上只要 72 美元。

My favorite item sound wise is the softears volume S, I just hate the matte plastic material and that they feel like q-tips in your ears, so I’m looking for something the most similar to that

就声音而言，我最喜欢的产品是 Softears Volume S，我只是讨厌哑光塑料材料，而且它们在耳朵里感觉就像棉签，所以我正在寻找与它最相似的东西

>>109590323

I feel like I remember seeing they had bad build quality/qc issues

我觉得我记得看到他们有糟糕的构建质量/质量控制问题

>>109590497

>Darker IEMs had sibilance

>颜色较深的入耳式耳机有嘶嘶声

What.

>Pure and Explorer

>纯粹与探索

Pure isn't dark. Explorer, yeah, if you mean the one from Aful. How is that sibilant though? Did you not have a good fit? The 3 DDs you mentioned originally have more upper mids than explorer so this makes no sense lowkenuinely

纯粹并不黑暗。 Explorer，是的，如果你指的是来自 Aful 的那个。那嘶嘶声怎么样？你没有合适吗？你最初提到的 3 个 DD 比 Explorer 有更多的中上音，所以这毫无意义。

>>109590497

>bad build quality/qc issues

>不良的构建质量/质量控制问题

the bronze nozzles may oxidize over time but even that isn't guaranteed. mine has never had that issue. it's a heavy duty metal shell and including three different tuning nozzles and inner foams make it a pretty complete package overall.

随着时间的推移，青铜喷嘴可能会氧化，但即使如此也不能保证。我的从来没有遇到过这个问题。它是一个重型金属外壳，包括三个不同的调谐喷嘴和内部泡沫，使其成为一个相当完整的整体包装。

>>109590528

I’m not sure. The pure definitely fit like dogshit but I tried 4-5 different tips on the explorer because i really wanted to like them but they had sibilance. It was still dark but sibilant too

我不知道。 pure 绝对像狗屎一样适合，但我在 explorer 上尝试了 4-5 个不同的技巧，因为我真的很想喜欢它们，但它们有嘶嘶声。天色还很黑，但也有嘶嘶声

>>109590539

I think I saw like the shell falling apart or something lol but that maybe have been a different iem from them. I like the changeable nozzles just in case something happens though

我想我看到了像外壳散架什么的，哈哈，但这可能与他们不同。我喜欢可更换的喷嘴，以防万一发生什么情况

>>109590617

>I like the changeable nozzles

>我喜欢可更换的喷嘴

they are pretty drastic changes in tuning from one another, which is nice. along with the included inner foams that are interchangeable too, like I said, it is a complete set overall.

它们之间的调音发生了相当大的变化，这很好。正如我所说，它与可互换的内部泡沫一起，是一套完整的整体。

>>109590497

>All the darker iems I’ve tried had bad sibilance to them (explorer and pure). I don’t know if that’s just a coincidence.

>我尝试过的所有较暗的耳机（探索者和纯净者）都有不好的嘶嘶声。我不知道这是否只是巧合。

even after EQing length modes out?

即使在均衡长度模式之后？

>>109590528

Explorer has boosted 8k for techs and clarity and to not come off as a muffled dogshit, for me it adds that snap and impact and makes this pos immensely fun despite having dark tonality, but for those who are sensitive to that region it can come off as sibilant

Explorer 提升了 8k 的技术和清晰度，并且不会显得像闷闷不乐的狗屎，对我来说，它增加了捕捉力和冲击力，使这个 pos 非常有趣，尽管有黑暗的色调，但对于那些对该区域敏感的人来说，它可能会显得嘶嘶作响

>>109580308

>both dogshit but sony forgot to tune ear gain in

>都是狗屎，但索尼忘了调整耳朵增益

i don't even know what that graph means. i will buy the sony on basis of appearance. it's a mog or be mogged world.

我什至不知道那个图表意味着什么。我会根据外观购买索尼。这是一个莫克或被莫克的世界。

>>109590688

>boosted 8k for techs

>为技术人员提升 8k

40 IQ statement and bait. nice try, though.

40 IQ陈述和诱饵。不过，不错的尝试。

>>109590674

Quit your schizo rambles. Nobody normal does this shit.

别再胡思乱想了。正常人都不会干这种事。

>>109590729

you are right sir YOU ARE RIGHT everyone knows that Techs are stored in Driver Quality and not in the tuning sir! it is needful to know! YOU CANNOT improve techs with 8k!!!

您是对的，先生，您是对的，每个人都知道技术存储在驱动器质量中，而不是存储在调音中，先生！有必要知道！你不能用 8k 来提高技术！

>>109590729

It's TRVKE, man. Treblerape is techs.

这是TRVKE，伙计。 Treblerape 是技术。

she struggled to contain herself XD

她努力克制住自己XD

>>109590724

>i don't even know what that graph means.

>我什至不知道那个图表意味着什么。

region from 1.5k to 5k is what is known as "ear gain" it's gain added by your ears. But because IEMs do not interact with your ears this region needs to be manually added into IEM's tuning because your brain expects this region to be raised. And sony has none but also has a peak at 6k where average male will have a peak because of ear canal anatomy (more like 6500-7500 maybe). I can only image how bad this will sound but who knows.

从 1.5k 到 5k 的区域就是所谓的“耳朵增益”，它是由您的耳朵添加的增益。但由于 IEM 不与您的耳朵交互，因此需要手动将该区域添加到 IEM 的调音中，因为您的大脑期望该区域升高。索尼没有，但也有 6k 的峰值，由于耳道解剖结构，普通男性会有一个峰值（可能更像 6500-7500）。我只能想象这听起来有多糟糕，但谁知道呢。

>i will buy the sony on basis of appearance

>我会根据外观买索尼

do report back on how they sound

报告他们的声音

eargain is bad for bass

耳增益对低音不利

>>109590925

in what way?

以什么方式？

>>109590979

NTA but lowering eargain and treble will emphasize bass

NTA，但降低耳增益和高音会强调低音

but flat eargain will just sound wrong.

但平缓的耳增益听起来就是错误的。

>>109591004

>lowering eargain and treble will emphasize bass

>降低耳增益和高音会强调低音

what happens if that area in the audio is already not as present? what if bass is not as present and the lowering of "eargain" normalizes the bass if bass wasn't prominent either?

如果音频中的该区域已经不存在会发生什么？如果低音不存在并且“耳增益”的降低使低音正常化（如果低音也不突出）怎么办？

when does "flat eargain" sound right?

“平耳增益”什么时候听起来合适？

Damn double flange tips are amazing, gets rid of most of the problems I have with my iems

该死的双法兰尖端太棒了，解决了我的入耳式耳机所遇到的大部分问题

>>109591296

>what happens if that area in the audio is already not as present?

>如果音频中的该区域已经不存在会发生什么？

The exact same thing will happen.

完全相同的事情也会发生。

>>109591325

are you saying reducing ear gain increases bass, or just decreases the level of something else relative to bass?

你是说减少耳朵增益会增加低音，还是只是降低与低音相关的其他东西的水平？

>>109591370

Yes.

>>109591393

Hah. I accept your concession.

哈。我接受你的让步。

>>109591410

Concessions are stored in the balls.

让步存储在球中。

>>109591370

NTA, but they're using "emphasize bass" to mean "make bass relatively louder than another frequency region", rather than actually increasing bass.

NTA，但他们使用“强调低音”来表示“使低音比另一个频率区域相对响亮”，而不是实际增加低音。

>>109591296

>already not as present

> 已经不像现在那样了

in what sense? most instruments have presence in that region.

在什么意义上？大多数文书都在该地区设有办事处。

>what if bass is not as present and the lowering of "eargain" normalizes the bass if bass wasn't prominent either

>如果低音不存在并且“耳增益”的降低使低音正常化（如果低音也不突出）怎么办

same question. poor mix? that's pretty specific cases that are probably not worth talking about

同样的问题。混合不好？这是非常具体的案例，可能不值得讨论

can it happen? maybe

这会发生吗？或许

>when does "flat eargain" sound right

>什么时候“平耳增益”听起来合适

most likely never

最有可能永远不会

>>109591437

You're trying to explain something to a guy that doesn't know stereo audio is made from 2 channels.

您正试图向一个不知道立体声音频是由两个声道组成的人解释一些事情。

>>109591370

what a 60 IQ thing to ask

智商60有什么好问的

what does "emphasize" mean?

"强调"是什么意思？

>>109591485

why not ask the anon >>109591004 that used the word?

为什么不问问使用这个词的匿名>>109591004呢？

asking follow up questions is called being normal and having a conversation, which you're apparently allergic to, given your emotional investment in this

提出后续问题被称为正常和对话，考虑到你对此的情感投入，你显然对此过敏

>>109591522

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/emphasize

Emphasize these nuts across your chin

强调下巴上的这些坚果

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1787101960438003.jpg

Has anyone tried this shit? That seems so retarded

有人尝试过这个玩意吗？这看起来很迟钝

https://forum.headphones.com/t/goldens-hqplayer-oversampling-guide/25410

>>109592626

If I'm understanding this right they're throwing a shitton of computing power at reducing noise beyond the 22Khz barrier that you will never hear nor be able to reproduce? am I getting this right?

如果我理解正确的话，他们会投入大量的计算能力来降低超过 22Khz 障碍的噪音，而你永远不会听到也无法重现？我说得对吗？

>>109589449

>meme sub brand cash grab

>meme子品牌抢钱

more boomdrop? sign me up. better tuning than main brand slop.

更多繁荣下降？给我报名。比主要品牌的斜度更好的调整。

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1787111612041665.jpg

I gonna get either the truthear pure white edition or the moondrop silicon. I haven't consoomed for a while and I can't hold back anymore

我要么买truear纯白版，要么买moondrop硅胶版。我已经有一段时间没有安抚了，我已经按捺不住了

>>109593043

>better tuning

>更好的调音

what target would that be?

那是什么目标？

>>109592626

The only somewhat tangible benefit of this can be achieved with a single +1dB peak filter at 22kHz.

唯一有点明显的好处可以通过 22kHz 下的单个 +1dB 峰值滤波器来实现。

>>109592930

And it will only do it on NOS R2R DACs.

而且它只能在 NOS R2R DAC 上实现。

is there a player that doesn't do the "android aids" assistant thing? Like it doesn't even do anything if you hit the assistant button on a media controller like a car or whatever? and it never gets fucking amber alerts?

有没有一个播放器不做“android aids”助手的事情？就像如果你按下汽车或其他媒体控制器上的助手按钮，它甚至不会做任何事情？而且它永远不会收到他妈的琥珀警报？

>>109593698

my own personal target which is the only one that matters to me.

我自己的个人目标，这是对我来说唯一重要的目标。

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1787126530131664.jpg

low energy mossad israel wasteland troonland

低能量摩萨德以色列荒地特伦兰

>>109593043

whats that phone brand? never saw one like this before

那部手机是什么牌子的？以前从未见过这样的人

pure 2.0 !

纯粹的2.0！

Chu 3?

>>109596210

>metal pos prone to condensation buildup

>金属位置容易凝结

>brass nozzle prone to oxidation and green gunk in your ears and eartips

>黄铜喷嘴容易氧化，耳朵和耳塞上会出现绿色粘稠物

>cheap paint prone to chipping issues

>廉价油漆容易出现剥落问题

at least it's cheap and decently tuned

至少它很便宜而且调整得很好

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1787151463193619.png

My IEM broke. Is there something similar to the EA500 LM? I accidentally dropped it underneath my heater while replacing the nozzle and I think a debris got in. Now every time I use it there's a weird scratchy noise whenever I move it around, like when I turn my head.

我的入耳式耳机坏了。有没有类似EA500 LM的东西？我在更换喷嘴时不小心将它掉到了加热器下面，我认为有碎片进入了。现在每次我使用它时，只要我移动它，就像当我转动头部时，就会发出奇怪的沙哑噪音。

Preferably nothing made of brass. I have oily ears and I don't want it oxidizing.

最好没有黄铜制成的。我的耳朵很油，我不希望它氧化。

>>109596309

in terms of sound? EPZ Q1 Pro and customize the faceplate for extra techs

在声音方面？ EPZ Q1 Pro 并为额外技术定制面板

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1787151978274378.png

>>109596326

>EPZ Q1 Pro

>$60 USD

Fuck. I was hoping something cheaper. I got the EA500LM for like, $30USD a couple of years ago.

他妈的。我希望能有更便宜的东西。几年前，我以 30 美元左右的价格购买了 EA500LM。

Also is there a cable that's not USB-C?

还有不是 USB-C 的电缆吗？

>>109596463

>I was hoping something cheaper

>我希望能有更便宜的东西

then just stick with truthear gate

然后就坚持用trueargate

Has anyone tried the Chu 3?

有人试过楚3吗？

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1787160121899342.jpg

>>109597374

its another 1dd cash grab, nothing fancy to brag about. Better buy some of that new MEMS tech pal

这又是第一次抢钱，没什么值得吹嘘的。最好购买一些新的 MEMS 技术伙伴

>>109597412

>cash grab

>抢钱

are you too poor to spend $20 or something?

你是否太穷而无法花 20 美元之类的？

saying $20 is a cash grab is hilarious shit's basically free

说 20 美元是抢现金真是搞笑，狗屎基本上是免费的

i'm a paypig tech worker and want to spend $300-ish on one pair of IEMs and then move on with my life. not gaming with them, just want something that is flattering for all types of music and will be tolerable to listen to streaming/podcast content for long periods.

我是一名付费技术工人，想花 300 美元左右购买一对 IEM，然后继续我的生活。不是和他们一起玩游戏，只是想要一些适合所有类型音乐的东西，并且可以长时间收听流媒体/播客内容。

>>109597688

> will be tolerable to listen to streaming/podcast content for long periods.

> 能够长时间收听流媒体/播客内容。

save ur hearing and buy desktop speakers

拯救你的听力并购买桌面扬声器

>>109597725

I have KEF Q350s on my desk but like having isolation. What's wrong with IEMs at modest listening volumes?

我的办公桌上有 KEF Q350，但喜欢隔离。在中等音量下入耳式耳机有什么问题？

>>109597768

>What's wrong with IEMs at modest listening volumes?

> IEM 在中等音量下有什么问题？

nta, but, nothing at all. that's the whole point of the hobby. you're supposed to enjoy them however you like.

nta，但是，什么也没有。这就是爱好的全部意义。你应该随心所欲地享受它们。

>>109597768

there is nothing wrong but siting entire day with them inside ur ear seems to be bit problematic for me. Maybe not due too comfort but having ur ear plugged for many hours cant be good for ear canal health.

没有什么问题，但是整天把它们放在耳朵里对我来说似乎有点问题。也许不是因为太舒服，但长时间塞住耳朵并不利于耳道健康。

As for iems with that budget, u really should start with something cheap if u dont know what sound u like and so on. U can try that Chu 3 from post above but for 300 there is so much stuff that u really need to know at least what sound signature u prefere, its easier to choose stuff if u have base experience with cheapo stuff, then u can compare fr chart on squiglink, watch few reviews and u can choose something that u will like without blindly buying stuff.

至于预算有限的入耳式耳机，如果你不知道自己喜欢什么声音等等，你真的应该从便宜的开始。你可以尝试上面帖子中的Chu 3，但是对于300来说，有太多的东西你真的需要知道至少你喜欢什么声音签名，如果你对便宜的东西有基本的经验，那么选择东西会更容易，然后你可以在squiglink上比较fr图表，看一些评论，你可以选择你喜欢的东西而不盲目购买东西。

>>109597688

crinear reference

临床参考

newly released moondrop silicon also looks nice (cable is probably bad)

新发布的 Moondrop 硅看起来也不错（电缆可能是坏的）

It's better if you listen to them before buying because IEMs might be a hit or a miss for a lot of reasons

最好在购买前听听他们的意见，因为入耳式耳机可能会因多种原因而受到欢迎或错过

>>109597768

its fine if you eq out the length modes otherwise you will become deaf and incur tinnitus within 14 days

如果你把长度模式均衡一下就可以了，否则14天内你就会聋子和耳鸣

>>109597818

>siting entire day with them inside ur ear seems to be bit problematic for me

>整天把它们放在耳朵里对我来说似乎有点问题

never had any problems.

从来没有任何问题。

>Maybe not due too comfort but having ur ear plugged for many hours cant be good for ear canal health.

>也许不是因为太舒适，而是长时间塞住耳朵并不利于耳道健康。

not really as long as you clean them regularly and don't have abnormal problems with earwax it should be fine for most people

不是真的，只要你定期清洁它们并且没有耳垢的异常问题，对大多数人来说应该没问题

>>109597907

studies unironically show that people using IEMs get more hearing damage than people listening to openbacks or speakers. Why do you think is that?

研究讽刺地表明，使用入耳式耳机的人比听开放式耳机或扬声器的人遭受的听力损伤更大。你认为这是为什么？

>>109597688

>flattering for all types of music

>适合所有类型的音乐

>>109597877

>crinear reference

> 临床参考

no man. you want to enjoy media, which is how you described yoru needs.

没有人。您想要享受媒体，这就是您描述的需求。

look into Kiwi Ears Astrals. great all-rounders and more fun for what you're looking for than Reference ever could be, by far.

看看猕猴桃耳朵星体。迄今为止，《Reference》是出色的多面手，而且比《Reference》更能满足您的需求。

>>109597951

>look into Kiwi Ears Astrals. great all-rounders and more fun for what you're looking for than Reference ever could be, by far.

>观察猕猴桃耳朵星体。迄今为止，《Reference》是出色的多面手，而且比《Reference》更能满足您的需求。

based on what?

根据什么？

>>109597937

because people are retarded and listen to all music sources too loudly and IEMs eliminate external reference sounds to help indicate how loud playback is.

因为人们智力迟钝，听所有音乐源的声音都太大，而入耳式耳机消除了外部参考声音，以帮助指示播放的音量有多大。

>>109597967

I wouldn't be so sure. One wouldn't think you wouldn't need to crank up already highly isolating IEM compared to speakers or open backs.

我不太确定。与扬声器或开放式后背相比，人们不会认为您不需要调高已经高度隔离的入耳式耳机。

>and IEMs eliminate external reference sounds to help indicate how loud playback is

>并且 IEM 消除了外部参考声音以帮助指示播放的音量大小

What is this assumption based on?

这个假设是基于什么？

It is not proven they were listening to IEMs any louder than normal headphones.

没有证据表明他们听入耳式耳机的声音比普通耳机的声音大。

>>109597966

Impressions by everybody that has heard it at least once.

每个至少听过一次的人的印象。

that what i was talking about. its better to start cheap and small and then when u have actual taste and know what u want and what u dont u can buy someting expensive.

这就是我所说的。最好从小便宜开始，然后当你有真正的品味并知道你想要什么和你不想要什么时，你就可以买一些昂贵的东西。

Giving that choice to retards here and u will be buried by endless shitstorm about their fav sets

如果给这里的弱智者这样的选择，你就会被他们最喜欢的套装的无休无止的风暴所淹没

>>109597994

>What is this assumption based on?

> 这个假设是基于什么？

you're a moron. what happens when you turn speakers up too loud? people complain. same with open back headphones.

你是个白痴。当你把扬声器开得太大声时会发生什么？人们抱怨。与开放式耳机相同。

IEMs are isolating, do I need to explain that concept to you? If you can't head external sounds, you lose reference points that may imply that your volume is too high.

IEM 具有隔离性，我需要向您解释这个概念吗？如果您无法听到外部声音，您就会失去参考点，这可能意味着您的音量太高。

https://hearingreview.com/hearing-loss/patient-care/pediatric-care/study-one-in-eight-teens-shows-signs-of-hearing-damage-by-18

people are just listening to shit too loud.

人们只是听得太大声了。

>>109597877

>>109597951

should i just buy both and return whatever i don't like before the 30-day return period is up on scamazon? is there something else i should try while i'm at it?

我是否应该在 Scamazon 的 30 天退货期结束之前同时购买两件并退回我不喜欢的商品？我还应该尝试其他什么吗？

>>109597818

i hear you, but I also know what i'm just going to end up with a dozen pairs of IEMs i don't listen to if i do this. not everything i buy needs to become a hobby.

我听到了，但我也知道如果我这样做的话，我最终会得到十几对我不听的入耳式耳机。并不是我买的所有东西都需要成为一种爱好。

>>109597999

nonsense

we actually had anon here who hated it because of retarded 15k peak lol

事实上，我们这里有一个人因为 15k 峰值延迟而讨厌它，哈哈

It's not that different from reference anyway

反正和参考没啥区别

>>109598032

I can agree with that, it's build ur tolerance and I'm always starting with less volume, it's goes up and up when I listen more and more. With open backs I have that external reference, someone is walking, pc fan spins, keyboard and mouse clicks and so on. With iem u can sink and push that volume up and up

我同意这一点，它可以增强你的耐受力，我总是从较小的音量开始，当我听得越来越多时，它就会越来越大。通过开放式背部，我有外部参考，有人在走路，电脑风扇旋转，键盘和鼠标点击等等。使用 iem，您可以下沉并不断提高音量

>>109598065

>we actually had anon here who hated it

>我们实际上有一个人讨厌它

>1 anon

>1 匿名

and how is that not nonsense? actually, don't answer that, we all know you're joking.

这怎么不是废话呢？事实上，别回答这个问题，我们都知道你在开玩笑。

>>109598059

>should i just buy both and return whatever i don't like?

>我应该两个都买然后退回我不喜欢的东西吗？

if you don't mind doling out the cash and you're willing to return what you enjoy least, then go for it. won't hurt to try both and give your impressions here, since this place is the only place where impressions matter

如果你不介意分发现金并且愿意归还你最不喜欢的东西，那就去吧。尝试两者并在这里留下您的印象不会有什么坏处，因为这个地方是唯一影响印象的地方

>>109598032

>you're a moron. what happens when you turn speakers up too loud? people complain. same with open back headphones.

>你是个白痴。当你把扬声器开得太大声时会发生什么？人们抱怨。与开放式耳机相同。

are you like 12? Who's complaining? Your parents? lmao

你像12岁吗？谁在抱怨？你的父母？喵喵

https://hearingreview.com/hearing-loss/patient-care/pediatric-care/study-one-in-eight-teens-shows-signs-of-hearing-damage-by-18

>the study uncovered concerning trends: bilateral hearing notches became more common, and among those already showing high-frequency hearing loss at age 13, their hearing deteriorated significantly by age 18.

>该研究揭示了令人担忧的趋势：双侧听力缺损变得更加常见，而在 13 岁时就已经出现高频听力损失的人中，他们的听力到 18 岁时就显着恶化。

>notches

HMM it's almost as if if you don't EQ peaks out they will damage your hearing lol lmao

嗯，这几乎就像如果你没有 EQ 达到峰值一样，它们会损害你的听力，哈哈 lmao

>>109598059

>should i just buy both and return whatever i don't like before the 30-day return period is up on scamazon

>我是否应该在 30 天退货期结束之前，在诈骗网站上同时购买两件并退回我不喜欢的商品

That probably will be the smartest thing to do

这可能是最明智的做法

>>109598092

>and how is that not nonsense? actually, don't answer that, we all know you're joking.

>这怎么不是废话呢？事实上，别回答这个问题，我们都知道你在开玩笑。

>we

you know nothing

你什么都不知道

>>109598120

HMM. neither do you.

唔。你也没有。

now look, now we're two jerkoffs that don't know anything, how fuckin interesting.

现在看，现在我们是两个什么都不知道的混蛋，多他妈的有趣。

>>109598137

You were the retard who thought that astral is that much better than reference based on absolutely nothing

你是个傻瓜，毫无根据地认为星体比参考资料好得多

I'm not even saying that astral is a bad IEM or anything but you my guy are stupid as fuck

我什至不是说 astral 是一个糟糕的入耳式耳机或其他任何东西，但你我的家伙真他妈的愚蠢

>>109598165

>wahhh wahhhh someone else's recommendation is better than mine wahhhh

>wahhh wahhhh 别人的推荐比我的好wahhhh

you have a serious lack of awareness. anon wants to enjoy his media, not analyze it.

你严重缺乏认识。匿名想要享受他的媒体，而不是分析它。

Ok, am I fucked? Im hearing high pitch whine nosie, quiet one, usually noticable during ideal silence. When I've done sine sweeps I hear everything up to 20k and I think even slightly above because I hear things like phone chargers whine and other stuff that no one notices. I'm also really annoyed by bright headphones with peaks in treble, with iems not so much. Noise I hear is really quiet, around 15-20khz I think. I remember few situations from my memory that could fuck my hearing a bit but I wasn't really into loud stuff, it was more like sudden explosion or something like that

好吧，我完蛋了吗？我听到高音调的呜呜声，安静的声音，通常在理想的安静状态下很明显。当我完成正弦扫描时，我会听到高达 20k 的声音，我认为甚至略高一些，因为我听到手机充电器的呜呜声和其他没人注意到的东西。我也对高音峰值较高的明亮耳机感到非常恼火，而入耳式耳机则没有那么多。我听到的噪音非常安静，我认为大约在 15-20khz 左右。我记得在我的记忆中很少有情况会影响我的听力，但我并不真正喜欢大声的东西，这更像是突然爆炸或类似的事情

>>109598196

You're either 30+ years old or have tinnitus.

您要么已超过 30 岁，要么患有耳鸣。

I'm 46 now but I remember hearing a high pitch noise when there's complete silence when I was in my 30s. It's why I need to sleep with either music playing or some form of white noise, like a fan now.

我现在 46 岁了，但我记得在我 30 多岁的时候，当周围一片寂静时，我听到了一声高亢的噪音。这就是为什么我需要在音乐或某种形式的白噪音（比如现在的风扇）的陪伴下入睡。

That is completely normal as you age.

随着年龄的增长，这是完全正常的。

>>109598184

You don't understand anything about audio gear at all.

你根本不懂音响设备。

"X liked Y" literally doesn't mean anything.

“X 喜欢 Y”字面上没有任何意义。

>>109598239

I accept your concession ;)

我接受你的让步;)

>>109598095

this is just a random hearing loss study? there are hundreds like them. nothing says they incurred hearing loss due to length modes specifically but you'd still extrapolate from that that all iems need eq? idk if you'd say that but many here would. i just dont understand the need to be so extreme and categorical all the time

这只是一项随机听力损失研究？像他们这样的人有数百人。没有任何消息表明它们因长度模式而导致听力损失，但您仍然可以推断所有 IEM 都需要 EQ？我不知道你是否会这么说，但这里很多人都会这么说。我只是不明白有必要一直如此极端和绝对

All IEMs need a 0.5V volume source MAX. And EQ.

所有 IEM 都需要 0.5V 最大音量源。还有情商。

>>109598196

>Ok, am I fucked

>好吧，我完蛋了吗？

go see a doctor... Tho you are probably fucked in a sense that it will never go away

去看医生……不过，从某种意义上说，你可能已经完蛋了，这种感觉永远不会消失

>>109598253

As 60 IQ as always. Stop shitting up the thread with your retardation

智商一如既往的60。别再用你的迟钝来搞乱话题了

>>109598165

for anon's use case, Astral>Reference. simple as.

对于 anon 的用例，Astral>参考。简单如。

new thread please.

请新线程。

>>109598222

I'm exactly 30yo but I hear that sound for years, desu can't remember not hearing it. It's so quiet that I really can't hear it even when I'm going to sleep, it's usually there but nothing that can bother me and trust me, even slightest sound and my brain just can't turn off and sleep. So that sound is there, it's noticable when I focus on it, usually need silence to notice it but it's not something that ruins my life.

我正好 30 岁，但我听那个声音很多年了，desu 不记得没有听过。它是如此安静，即使我要睡觉，我也听不到它的声音，它通常在那里，但没有什么可以打扰我并相信我，即使是最轻微的声音，我的大脑也无法关闭并入睡。因此，声音就在那里，当我专注于它时，它会很明显，通常需要安静才能注意到它，但它不会毁掉我的生活。

Is it good idea not to rape my ears with iems? And stick only to open backs. Or if I dont crank volume too much would I be fine even with iems? As I said, have that sound forever, I don't think it got any worse than 10 y ago

不要用入耳式耳机强奸我的耳朵是个好主意吗？并且只坚持开放背部。或者如果我不把音量调得太大，即使使用 iems 也可以吗？正如我所说，永远保持这种声音，我认为它不会比 10 年前更糟糕

>>109598280

>wahh stop shitting up the thread.

>哇哦，别再搞乱话题了。

bitch it's the end of the thread and you know it. projecting much?

婊子，这就是话题的结尾，你知道的。投射很多？

>"you're a moron this. you're a moron that"

>“你这个白痴。你那个白痴”

>wahhhhh wahhh

> 哇哈哈哈哈哈哈

lol fuck outta here.

哈哈，他妈的离开这里。

>>109598309

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>>109598256

>nothing says they incurred hearing loss due to length modes specifically but you'd still extrapolate from that that all iems need eq

>没有任何迹象表明它们因长度模式而导致听力损失，但您仍然可以推断所有 IEM 都需要 eq

I dunno dude how do you get a notch on specific frequencies huh? maybe because these specific frequencies are receiving higher energy than others. what a mystery. dumbass

我不知道老兄你如何在特定频率上获得一个档次？也许是因为这些特定频率比其他频率接收到更高的能量。真是个谜。笨蛋

>i just dont understand the need to be so extreme and categorical all the time

>我只是不明白有必要一直如此极端和绝对

EQing peaks out has literally no downsides. Besides what also I think happened is that all these studies are relatively old and old style tuning for IEMs was giga dogshit with no eargain and retarded 6-8k peaks so that might be what was actually damaging their hearing lol

EQing 达到顶峰实际上没有任何缺点。除此之外，我认为发生的事情是，所有这些研究都相对较旧，IEM 的旧式调音是千兆狗屎，没有增益并且延迟了 6-8k 峰值，所以这可能是真正损害他们听力的原因，哈哈

>>109598280

>As 60 IQ

A 60 IQ* ftfy. what are you doing, hammering on replies with ferocity? so irate lol

智商 60* ftfy。你在做什么，猛烈地敲击回复？很生气哈哈

>>109598196

>>109598302

you have tinnitus. i have it, i'm 39 but i've had it since I was a kid since apparently hearing protection around guns and heavy machinery was gay in the 90s.

你有耳鸣。我有它，我已经 39 岁了，但我从小时候就已经有它了，因为显然在 90 年代，围绕枪支和重型机械的听力保护是同性恋。

>>109598059

>is there something else i should try while i'm at it?

>当我这样做的时候，还有什么我应该尝试的吗？

~$300 there's a lot of options, some recs here

~$300 有很多选择，这里有一些推荐

https://headphones.com/blogs/buying-guides/the-best-iems-under-500-summer-2026-update

>>109598302

>Is it good idea not to rape my ears with iems

>不要用入耳式耳机强奸我的耳朵是个好主意吗

I feel like it shouldn't matter much as long as you don't listen too loud for too long

我觉得只要你不听得太大声就没有太大关系

>>109594884

>2tb micro sd

>2TB 微型 SD 卡

>quality sound chip

>优质音效芯片

>0 hiss on sensitive iems

> 敏感耳机上的嘶嘶声为 0

>replaceable battery

>可更换电池

LG V20, literally one of the best portable player right now.

LG V20，确实是目前最好的便携式播放器之一。