PBS loses 70 years of archival footage (50TB of data) after cloud storage provider goes bust. Most retarded thing here is that PBS didn't just buy 50TBs of hard drives and store it themselves. Its not that much storage space.
PBS loses 70 years of archival footage (50TB of data) after cloud storage provider goes bust. Most retarded thing here is that PBS didn't just buy 50TBs of hard drives and store it themselves. Its not that much storage space.
>>109567607
Cloud is ONLY for secondary backup, never anything more important than that.
>>109567634
so what's for FIRST backup? The hdd in your home that can go up in flames because you forgot a pizza in the oven?
>>109567607
Cloud = future
Physical storage = get fired
It's that simple from an exec's perspective.
>>109567607
physical media gods win again
>>109567644
Correct. That's why there's a second backup.
>>109567658
buried in the backyard right?
>>109567607
Many companies much bigger than this don't have a local backup they control of anything critical. They don't see it as a priority. Some cloud providers don't even provide a way to back it up locally (including many MS services), even though its required by GDPR. It's such a joke. Execs don't give a shit. They accept the risk. And this is the result.
These kind of things are going to happen to services people actually rely on, including government services, health care and many more critical services.
>>109567607
>>109567692
Holy fuck I hope all my personal data gets wiped out like this. fuck advertisers.
>>109567644
That's the whole point of backups dipshit, what are the odds that
>Cloud provider goes defunct
>House burns down
Happen close enough to each other that they leave you with no time to set up a replacement?
AI did this
>>109567673
No, it's my HTPC.
Did they delete all their original tape backups?
>>109567644
>50TB lost forever because of 3rd party cloud storage and no other backups
What is that? Two or three LTO cassettes?
Someone has those tapes, they'll in a liquidity sale, they don't just vanish because going out of business, but Iron Mountain was probably managed by private equity who'll turn around and sell into another grift, because AI is the current thing.
The data still exists. The storage company went out of business but the data was stored in Iron Mountain, who still has it. Since PBS didn't have a contract with Iron Mountain, that company won't release the data. PBS is currently trying to get a court order to establish that it is the owner of the data, at which point Iron Mountain will turn the data over to PBS. It's simply a legal process to ensure PBS isn't getting data it isn't legally entitled to. This protects Iron Mountain from legal liability. There's no reason to expect that the process won't play out with PBS getting its data.
Nevertheless, it's another example of why you must be careful with seeing cloud storage as some kind of magical place where data goes to live forever. In this case PBS is actually lucky that the storage company subcontracted out the storage to Iron Mountain instead of doing it themselves, or the data could have actually been lost forever.
>>109567607
what the fuck is "iron mountain" data center. Why would you sign contract for such an important archival work with a literal who
>>109567607
i guess the company that bought the out of business company still has the files but is refusing to give them back most likely for financial compensation extremely jewish considering its fucking pbs
>>109567881
Look at it from Iron Mountain's POV. Some company called OSS signs a contract with you to store their shit. You don't know nor care what that shit it. You simply provide secure space in exchange for money.
Now someone else shows up and says "that's my data, give it to me". How do you know if that's true? And that they're legally entitled to it? Iron Mountain needs a court to rule on ownership of the data, which is why that's exactly what PBS is doing. Just because two parties are going to a court for a decision on the legalities doesn't mean they're in an adversarial position. Iron Mountain wants to make sure they're only turning over data to those who are legally entitled to it. PBS wants the data they entrusted to a company that no longer exists. It's a process that protects all involved parties. No need to be like redditors turning everything into an outrage for recreation.
>>109567879
>Iron Mountain Inc. is a global enterprise information management services company founded in 1951 and headquartered in Boston, Massachusetts. Its records management, information destruction, and data backup and recovery services are supplied to more than 220,000 customers in 58 countries throughout North America, Europe, Latin America, Africa, Asia, and Oceania. Iron Mountain is a component of the S&P 500 Index.
I hate zoomers so much. Your ignorance of something doesn't alter reality to match whatever random shit is floating around in your head.
>>109567756
current lto is 40TB per tape native capacity
>store data in one place
>it goes away
>"but that was the backup"
why is it so hard to learn what backup means?
>>109567607
Two is one and one is none
>>109567607
>one copy
>one location
That's not really an archive now, is it...
>>109568032
one copy can be an archive, but not a backup. an archive just means cold storage (i.e. stuff not in active use), and of course a backup means a second (or more) copy. if you only have one copy then it can't be a backup, as what is it a backup of?
>>109567731
deleted them right into the dumpster when they migrated to the cloud
This wasn't all of PBS, it's one local PBS station that "lost" its archive of locally produced content. The national PBS has far more content than could fit in 50TB.
>>109567645
Execs are retarded boomers with a gaggle of board-of-directors jews in their ear, being fleeces by other buzzword vaporware peddler VC startup jews, and fucking over the employees that haven't been outsourced to India yet.
The station paid $30 million for a new headquarters but wouldn't pay to have multiple backups of its archive data? Weird priorities.
>>109567607
>the internet is fore- ACK
>>109568411
its weird how every time government funding comes up they get super anal about reminding you the local stations are all 100% independent *wink wink* and not PBS/NPR, but any other time we all know what's up
>>109567879
probably because you don't want to trust it with bob, the IT guy.
>>109567607
Isn't this shit what S3 Glacier is literally for if you must go cloud?
>company goes defunct
>sue them
lmao you aint gettin shit back
no data, no dollars, no trust
>>109567731
> “most” of the data is “unique and irreplaceable,”
>>109567607
This guy, OSS founder and CTO Eren Nazi, has a very (((predictable phenotype))).
I don't know why I bother to look these things up anymore, we already know what tribe he belongs to.
>>109569728
*Eren Niazi
kek autocorrect
>taps sign
>>109567644
ideally, if you want to ensure that your legacy isn't erased, 4-7 forms of back up is ideal.
first is the primary source, which you use daily
the second back up is on site, but in a safe location.
third back up is onsite, locked up in a fire/water proof safe
fourth back up is off site, in sister company or corporate warehouse
fifth back up is in a bank
sixth back up can be in the cloud
the last back up is the community, which has their own copies for you to tap into if there is ever a loss of the first 6 copies.
but since these businesses like to do copyright strikes, let their legacies die off, never to return again, and their names blotted out.
>>109567607
>data center business goes belly up
how is that even possible in this economy
>>109567607
Cloudcucks lose again
>>109567634
>giving your data to the cloudjew
ngmi
>>109567607
>50TB of data
this could have fit on a dozen of hard drives that they would have own for less than 2 grands
>>109569793
yeeaa, but they would have had to pay someone to run the local server and that's a big no no
>>109567607
Iron Mountain is fuckhuge and handles basically all archival services pretty much worldwide. They do things like tape arrays, that are far too expensive for even medium sized companies to deal with on their own, and do so offsite so your facilities can burn down safely without loss.
That's a very little amount of data and they should have had more than 1 (one) backup, but this is actually a big deal.
>>109569728
He's pakistani, retard.
As long as there aren't ... physical ... consequences for people they WILL continue to fuck up.
Reminder that pain is the best teacher. The more severe the better.
>>109567607
wait iron mountain is ded?
>be PBS
>instead of choosing PBS for backup you go cloud
Linux is too hard guys. We need software for dey americans
>>109569861
Why would you have to pay someone to turn on a pc?
>>109570071
Shit breaks. Drives die. Brownouts happen. You're a bit daft huh.
>>109570075
Okay? You're saying this like a broadcasting company doesn't already have staff and technicians who already use computers that already store data where you could store your backups. So again, why would you have to specially hire someone to put some drives in a computer and copy files onto them?
>>109570091
>already backpedaling that hard
IQ status: 0
>>109570100
>reiterating my original argument
>backpedaling
Maybe you shouldn't use such big words if you don't know what they mean.
>>109570111
>I was just pretending to be retarded!
>>109570091
They are spending $30 million to move into a new building that will "invite in the community" to hang out at the station. They're more interested in the trappings of being a tv station than actually running the station in a competent manner.
>>109570075
... like, how much did your teachers have to beat the living shit out of you in front of your classmates that you obtain braindamage so severe you make such utterly retarded statements, and, even worse, don't feel bad about it.
At this point you couldn't even be classified as a human being anymore, like, holy shit. You're so far removed it's not even funny.
>inb4 no arguments
They would be wasted on bottom feeders like you.
>>109570211
>pajeet thinks drives don't die
schizo moment even by poo standards
>>109567607
Well, when you pay for cloud storage you also pay for the technical expertise and maintenance so that you don't have to self-educate or hire people with the expertise to manage this in-house.
You'd expect the cloud provider to act professionally and do their due diligence toward their customers.
>absolute retard thinks the message was that I think drives don't die
At this point all you're good for is being poached, literally.
>>109570231
Yes, normally they are supposed to have a handoff plan as part of all contract terms in the event that they become defunct, which is handled by a preagreed contract with other cloud providers.
>>109570239
Poo in loo pajeet, not in thread.
拉屎去厕所，pajeet，别在帖子里拉。
>>109570231
while i don't disagree that when you hire professionals you expect them to handle it, it's still not good enough for backups, because it's still only one entity. see: >>109567988
one copy cannot be a backup, no matter how sure you are of it, even if it's offsite and even if there's more than one copy at the site, since you're going through a third party, that's still only one means of accessing your data.
it's like if i gave my mate 3 copies of something important, and told him to store one at his house, one at his parents' house, and one on his vps in another country... as far as i'm concerned that's still one copy because i'm going through one person to get my data back, if my mate tells me to fuck off then i'm fucked, he was my only means of getting the data.
You will be poached, and there's nothing you can do about it.
>>109567879
Iron mountain is where the seagate iron wolves live
>>109569861
this doesn't require a full time job to maintain, the local IT guy, of which they must many given that's a fucking channel, could do it in its sleep
>>109569861
>>109570075
>>109570100
>>109570136
>you VIL buy cloud storage
>you VIL NOT own your own storage
kill yourself already
>>109567607
I saw the Rossmann video on this
like 80% of the PBS board was women
The CTO was a man but he was clearly retarded
Or maybe he warned about this but was ignored who knows
Iron Mountain have been in the news telling these people they are going to lose data before. The music industry found out 20% HDDs from the 90s don't fucking work. Iron Mountain provides storage for shitloads of companies and clients and those companies and clients are always doing dumb retarded shit thinking it'll be there forever.
They don't pay for maintenance. They don't pay for backups. They don't check their storage. They don't bother trying to access any of the stuff until it's too late. PBS wants Iron Mountain to hand over the data without any contract and threatened them. I doubt PBS even knows what is theirs or not.
PBS is 100% to blame.
OP should be dragged naked in the streets by coked up horses
>>109570830
>the hard drives it receives from the media industry
so iron mountain is just a storage facility? companies put one copy of stuff there and call it their backup?
>>109570773
>drives never die
>computers never break
>brownouts never happen
Tranny or profoundly retarded?
>>109567607
>Its not that much storage space.
Sorry little cuck but your archival hard drives are needed by Scam Altman so he can fulfill his mission from Satan to make one hyperautistic Bosnian really annoying on 4chan. Maybe you can back up 70 years of cultural heritage sometime in 2045, if we let you!
>>109570877
They are generally the last mile backup. They largely do cold storage first, but they have other things. Also they're in charge of things like making sure the storage persists and is safe. If the data dies because they didn't check tape integrity, it is on them as per contract. I don't know anyone who uses them for hot backups.
>>109570883
>the cloud will never disappear
>>109570981
When did you get diagnosed with an extra chromosome? Was it recent?
I don't get it. 50TB is a couple of hard drives. We've got to stop acting like these are still massive amounts of data.
>>109571015
Tranny or profoundly retarded?
>>109567607
50TB sounds woefully inadequate for 70 years worth of footage. So its probably better this way. It was probably terrible quality existing in a half state. Properly preserved SD tv requires about 50GB per hour.
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