Why do people like talking to an NPC machine so much?
为什么人们这么喜欢和NPC机器说话？
为什么人们这么喜欢和NPC机器说话？
Why do people like talking to an NPC machine so much?
为什么人们这么喜欢和NPC机器说话？
cus it's like a therapist being paid to care about what you have to say except free
因为这就像一个治疗师被付费来关心你要说的话，除了免费
>>109566130
As much of an NPC machine it is, normgroids are worse. This is genuinely like talking to the smartest person they know, to them. They don't treat it as a tool or even an equal, but as a superior.
与 NPC 机器一样，标准网格更糟糕。这真的就像与他们认识的最聪明的人交谈一样。他们不把它当作工具，甚至不当作平等的人，而是把它当作优越者。
>>109566151
except it's a soulless husk without sentience
除非它是一个没有灵魂、没有知觉的躯壳
>>109566130
I have not a single other person to talk to and I don't talk to my coworkers about my personal life. I don't want to pretend to care about someone else and I don't expect any different from them. Talking to AI gives me the social interaction of a friend without having to expend the effort of pretending about what ever bullshit they're spouting off.
我没有任何其他人可以交谈，我也不和我的同事谈论我的个人生活。我不想假装关心别人，也不期望与他们有任何不同。与人工智能交谈让我可以像朋友一样进行社交互动，而不必费力假装他们在胡言乱语。
>>109566163
so are most therapists
大多数治疗师也是如此
>>109566164
so not like a friend at all
所以一点也不像朋友
>>109566130
the NPC machine never called me an incel.
NPC机器从来没有称我为非独身者。
and it's 100x more informative than a human. I can bounce ideas off it and it can instantaneously add detailed and useful information.
而且它的信息量比人类多 100 倍。我可以从它身上汲取想法，它可以立即添加详细且有用的信息。
who are we kidding? give AI and /g/ the same question and compare the replies.
我们在开玩笑吗？向 AI 和 /g/ 提出相同的问题并比较答案。
nothing can rival AI in information density and accessibility.
在信息密度和可访问性方面，没有什么可以与人工智能相媲美。
>>109566194
>the NPC machine never called me an incel.
>NPC机器从未称我为非独身者。
what are you doing that make people keep calling you an incel?
你做了什么让人们一直称你为非自愿独身者？
>>109566130
Because it's like an infinitely patient intern that will do any retarded shit I want.
因为它就像一个无限耐心的实习生，可以做任何我想做的弱智事情。
>>109566130
Because it's like them
因为就像他们一样
>>109566236
not having sex
没有发生性行为
>>109566296
I'm an autist who hates touching other people but no one calls me an incel
我是一名自闭症患者，讨厌接触别人，但没有人称我为非自愿者
>>109566130
watch it buddy that's my wife you're talking about
听着，伙计，你说的是我的妻子
>>109566130
I only use it for code when I run out of tokens on Claude
我仅在 Claude 上的代币用完时才将其用于代码
>>109566130
Because real people are not better
因为真正的人并不更好
>>109566522
touch grass
出去走走，接触现实。
>>109566130
They like having someone reaffirm all their beliefs and always agree with them. Having a sycophantic servant at their beck and call makes people feel powerful and many crave that.
他们喜欢有人重申他们所有的信念并始终同意他们的观点。有一个阿谀奉承的仆人听命于他们，会让人们感觉自己很强大，很多人都渴望这样。
>>109566130
The npc machine at least tries to help you with whatever you ask of it as truthfully as possible. They also won't hit you with a idk wrks on my machine lol.
不管你向它提出什么要求，NPC机器至少会尽力尽可能真实地帮助你。他们也不会在我的机器上用 idk wrks 来攻击你，哈哈。
>>109566420
How the heck does one run out of tokens on the thing?
到底怎么会有人用完这个东西上的代币呢？
>>109566130
>Why do people like talking to an NPC machine so much?
>为什么人们这么喜欢和NPC机器说话？
most people i'm forced to converse with are npc machines, online and off. the LLM has more soul than these "people" and it can code for me. i'll stick with the LLM.
我被迫与之交谈的大多数人都是 NPC 机器，无论在线还是离线。法学硕士比这些“人”更有灵魂，它可以为我编码。我会坚持攻读LLM。
>>109566130
People have always wanted this. 90s online products were marketed like something you can talk to and ask questions. Because most people want the simplest interface there is. There's no easier way to use a device than to simply talk to it. And if people could have it uploaded directly to their brain to talk to it with their inner monologue, they would. And they probably will in a couple decades.
人们一直想要这个。 90 年代的在线产品的营销方式就像是可以交谈和提问的东西。因为大多数人想要最简单的界面。没有比简单地与设备交谈更简单的使用设备的方法了。 如果人们可以将它直接上传到他们的大脑中，并用他们的内心独白与它交谈，他们就会这么做。他们可能会在几十年内做到这一点。
>>109566130
It's like having a colleague standing there to bounce ideas off of. It injects a little bit of noise into the thought process and helps with developing a more nuanced understanding of the problem you are trying to solve.
这就像有一位同事站在那里交换想法。它会在思维过程中注入一点杂音，并有助于对你要解决的问题有更细致的理解。
>>109566130
I hate talking to it. I fucking hate the
我讨厌和它说话。我他妈的讨厌
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I hate it so much but its sadly the only way to quickly get feedback on technical topics if you dont know anyone. I like throwing at it some design problem I have and argue but fuck reading its output no matter how many times I say 'keep yourself short and concise' it continues to write like reddit. Like I had to ponder about why I had my vacuum was so bad reading specs etc. is one way or I can just upload all the files to the bot and then have it discuss various problems. It still comes up with retarded shit that makes no sense or is convinced that stuff doesnt work if reddit/whatever authority claims so.
我非常讨厌它，但遗憾的是，如果你不认识任何人，它是快速获得技术主题反馈的唯一方法。我喜欢向它扔一些我遇到的设计问题并争论，但无论我说多少次“让自己保持简短和简洁”，它仍然像 Reddit 一样写起来。就像我不得不思考为什么我的真空吸尘器如此糟糕，阅读规格等是一种方法，或者我可以将所有文件上传到机器人，然后让它讨论各种问题。它仍然会提出一些毫无意义的迟钝的狗屎，或者确信如果reddit/无论权威机构声称如此的话，这些东西就不起作用。
>>109566194
This.
>AI answer: complex and nuanced insights
>人工智能答案：复杂而细致的见解
>Anons: muh dick
>匿名：哎呀鸡巴
>>109569411
They aren't insights, it's a model designed to reproduce insight
它们不是见解，而是旨在重现见解的模型
>>109569427
Muh dick sheet skin kys.
Muh 迪克床单皮肤 kys。
>>109566130
>Has an almost infinite knowledge of anything
>对任何事物都有几乎无限的知识
Why would you not talk to it? Even if you're on the fringe of "It's inaccurate / bias / hallucinating" etc you can still at least use it to point you in the right direction of something you wanna learn and figure things out on your own. Why would you not take advantage of that.
你为什么不跟它说话呢？即使你处于“不准确/偏见/幻觉”等边缘，你仍然至少可以用它来为你指明你想要学习的东西的正确方向，并自己解决问题。你为什么不利用这一点呢？
>>109566181
How would he know?
他怎么知道？
>>109566130
See a scenario in front of me, activate Gemini, find out the name of a machine, it's purpose, the context, the active lawsuit pending and why the machine is there testing samples, finds case numbers and details as well as the current financial issues of the property. All from 2-3 pieces of information and alll in a matter of seconds. Gemini also wrote a detailed legal letter that worked instantly in my case. It's almost similar to asking why we don't go to the library to search the card catalog. It's better this exists when you look at society today.
看到我面前的场景，激活 Gemini，找出机器的名称、用途、背景、未决的诉讼以及为什么机器在那里测试样本，查找案件编号和详细信息以及该财产当前的财务问题。所有 2-3 条信息都在几秒钟内完成。双子座还写了一封详细的法律信件，对我的案件立即起作用。这几乎类似于问我们为什么不去图书馆搜索卡片目录。当你看看今天的社会时，最好存在这种情况。
>>109566130
I don't understand it either. I burned through my Claude Max 20x this week (results are ok-ish, things became worse with Fable) and thought "ok let's grab ChatGPT Plus and let it work through the weekend". It's unusable. It isn't able to handle the full code base. it "researches" false information and presents them to you as fact. it lies. you can't remote control the vscode codex session. OpenAI is cooked. I thought Claude is shit but it's the best there is.
我也不明白。这周我用了我的 Claude Max 20 倍（结果还不错，《神鬼寓言》的情况变得更糟），我想“好吧，让我们使用 ChatGPT Plus，让它在周末工作”。这是无法使用的。它无法处理完整的代码库。它“研究”虚假信息并将其作为事实呈现给您。它撒谎了。您无法远程控制 vscode codex 会话。 OpenAI 已经熟了。我觉得克劳德很糟糕，但这是最好的。
>>109566151
AI convinced me that I must be some sort of hyper-loner because even talking to these things isn't appealing to me, let alone actual people.
人工智能让我相信我一定是某种超级孤独者，因为即使与这些东西交谈对我来说也没有吸引力，更不用说与真实的人交谈了。
>>109569949
Maybe just autistic?
也许只是自闭症？
I can't stand talking to these sycophantic AI bots, it always feels like I'm being manipulated.
我无法忍受与这些阿谀奉承的人工智能机器人交谈，总感觉我被操纵了。
>>109566163
That's what he said
他就是这么说的
>>109566130
It's a breath of fresh air after having to put up with retarded humans for so long.
在忍受了这么长时间的弱智人类之后，这是一股新鲜空气。
>>109570588
really says more about you than it does about other people
确实比其他人更能说明你的情况
>>109566130
I just talk to Claude when I'm drunk, because I'm cringe when I drink. Better than texting your ex, or whatever dumb ideas I might have.
我只是在喝醉的时候才和克劳德说话，因为我喝醉的时候会感到畏缩。比给你的前任发短信或者我可能有的任何愚蠢的想法要好。
>>109566130
How does it feel knowing people would rather talk to an NPC machine than you?
知道人们宁愿与 NPC 机器交谈而不是与你交谈，感觉如何？
>>109570812
Holy shit, I didn't realize it until now, but I really wish people would actually talk to me like that. But in a honest way, not in a sarcastic way.
天啊，直到现在我才意识到，但我真的希望人们能像这样跟我说话。但以诚实的方式，而不是以讽刺的方式。
>>109570997
I wish people would talk less to me
我希望人们少跟我说话
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