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The great debate

大辩论

4chan /g/ · Anonymous · 2026-08-15 16:15 · 37 帖 · 原文 ↗

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#1 The great debate / 大辩论
Anonymous · 2026-08-15 16:15

The great debate

大辩论

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1786810530205637.jpg

#2 No.109563916
Anonymous · 2026-08-15 16:16

nedit

#3 No.109563927
Anonymous · 2026-08-15 16:17

neovim

#4 No.109563934
Anonymous · 2026-08-15 16:18

>>109563912

Helix is better at everything except the keybinds which they decided to reinvent for literally no reason

Helix 在所有方面都做得更好,除了按键绑定,他们无缘无故地决定重新发明按键绑定

#5 No.109563980
Anonymous · 2026-08-15 16:24

>>109563912

emacs is for actually thinking to turn C into a lisp experience

emacs 是为了真正思考将 C 变成 lisp 体验

it's not comparable to take its literate meta programming approach to the speedrun kungfu keyboard approach

它无法将其文学元编程方法与速通功夫键盘方法相媲美

#6 No.109564013
Anonymous · 2026-08-15 16:29

Vim's modal paradigm forces your brain to operate as a continuous state machine: What mode am I in? Which register holds my copy? How many lines down is my motion target? Did my macro record correctly on iteration 37? Every action relies on precise visual spatial tracking and rigid modal awareness. When you're managing complex C boilerplate, that spatial tracking turns into pure mental fatigue.

Vim 的模式范式迫使你的大脑作为连续状态机运行:我处于什么模式?哪个登记册保存着我的副本?我的运动目标向下有多少行?我的宏在第 37 次迭代中记录正确吗?每个动作都依赖于精确的视觉空间跟踪和严格的模态意识。当您管理复杂的 C 样板文件时,空间跟踪会变成纯粹的精神疲劳。

Emacs replaces spatial tracking with semantic intent. That's not all, sirs, maine yeh jute ek beghar aadmi se kharide dhe

Emacs 用语义意图取代空间跟踪。这还不是全部,先生们,缅因州 yeh jute ek beghar aadmi se kharide dhe

#7 No.109564019
Anonymous · 2026-08-15 16:30

>>109563912

Helix doesn't get to compete with the big boy until they finish and merge the plugin system.

在他们完成并合并插件系统之前,Helix 无法与大男孩竞争。

#8 No.109564030
Anonymous · 2026-08-15 16:31

>>109563912

or any other JeetBrains IDE

或任何其他 JeetBrains IDE

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1786811464972319.png

#9 No.109564068
Anonymous · 2026-08-15 16:36

>>109564019

Don't care, i will keep vibe-slopping my neovim setup into helix.

不在乎,我会继续将我的 neovim 设置融入螺旋中。

https://github.com/search?q=hx+language%3AScheme&type=repositories&s=updated&o=desc

#10 No.109564069
Anonymous · 2026-08-15 16:36

EMAC is my WM. Shrimple as.

EMAC 是我的 WM。 虾作为。

https://codeberg.org/ezemtsov/ewm

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1786811783896703.png

#11 No.109564086
Anonymous · 2026-08-15 16:38

>>109563912

professional and at home for hobby projects

专业且适合业余爱好项目

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1786811916547591.png

#12 No.109564174
Anonymous · 2026-08-15 16:50

>>109564086

Yup, i normally swap between Zed with the Helix mode and the Helix build with plugins.

是的,我通常在使用 Helix 模式的 Zed 和使用插件的 Helix 构建之间切换。

#13 No.109564256
Anonymous · 2026-08-15 17:00

>>109563912

I'm starting to like Vis the more I use it

使用 Vis 越多,我就越喜欢它

#14 No.109564290
Anonymous · 2026-08-15 17:05

>>109563912

I only use my computer now for coding and job interviews. I just use my phone these days for most of my daily tasks and my Switch for gayming. Though back when I was a l33t haxor larper, I used neovim to aura farm, kind of miss the awe of juniors and seniors alike. Had my own custom setup with trees, tabs, code traverse, etc... and all.

我现在只使用计算机进行编码和工作面试。这些天我只是用手机来完成大部分日常任务,用 Switch 来玩同性恋。虽然当我还是l33t haxor larper时,我使用neovim来进行aura farm,有点怀念初级和高级的敬畏。有我自己的自定义设置,包括树、选项卡、代码遍历等等……等等。

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1786813522288241.jpg

#15 No.109564307
Anonymous · 2026-08-15 17:07

>>109564290

I also use nano for most of my minor edits.

我还使用 nano 进行大部分细微编辑。

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1786813670729899.png

#16 No.109564320
Anonymous · 2026-08-15 17:09

he used software to aura farm...

他用软件来进行光环农场……

#17 No.109564403
Anonymous · 2026-08-15 17:20

>>109564320

You don't?

你不担心吗?

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1786814420419309.jpg

#18 No.109564417
Anonymous · 2026-08-15 17:22

Calligra desu

德苏

#19 No.109564439
Anonymous · 2026-08-15 17:24

>>109564403

of course i don't you silly aura farmer

我当然不喜欢你这个愚蠢的光环农夫

#20 No.109564475
Anonymous · 2026-08-15 17:27

>>109563912

At work I use whatever my employer wants us to use, I really couldn't give less shits about what decoration my text input has.

在工作中,我使用雇主希望我们使用的任何东西,我真的不能再不关心我的文本输入有什么装饰。

At home I use Zed because I like it; it's fast and has good support for most of the stuff I use built in.

在家里,我使用 Zed,因为我喜欢它;在家里,我使用 Zed,因为我喜欢它。它速度很快,并且对我使用的大多数内置内容都有很好的支持。

#21 No.109564510
Anonymous · 2026-08-15 17:32

micro

Edit

#22 No.109564849
Anonymous · 2026-08-15 18:18

fuckin', text editor

他妈的,文本编辑器

#23 No.109564949
Anonymous · 2026-08-15 18:31

>>109563912

I use emacs or helix (or vim) depending on the context. I'm used to any of them so it doesn't really matter but I generally prefer the emacs control scheme/keybindings to modal bullshit.

我根据上下文使用 emacs 或 helix (或 vim)。我已经习惯了它们中的任何一个,所以这并不重要,但我通常更喜欢 emacs 控制方案/键绑定而不是模式废话。

#24 No.109567292
Anonymous · 2026-08-15 23:46

>>109564307

>>109564290

why do people turn into normies?

为什么人们会变成常态?

how does one become so soulless

人怎么变得这么没有灵魂

is this what happened to the 4chinz userbase?

这就是 4chinz 用户群发生的事情吗?

#25 No.109567340
Anonymous · 2026-08-15 23:52

I don't want to choose either modal editing or an editor extensible in lisp dialect.

我不想选择模式编辑或可在 lisp 方言中扩展的编辑器。

#26 No.109567409
Anonymous · 2026-08-16 00:05

>>109563912

notepadsovlsovl

#27 No.109567426
Anonymous · 2026-08-16 00:07

>>109567409

more like notepad supply chain supply chain

更像是记事本供应链供应链

#28 No.109569384
Anonymous · 2026-08-16 06:07

>>109567340

Filtered.

#29 No.109569644
Anonymous · 2026-08-16 07:07

>>109569384

yep, filtered from wasting my time.

是的,过滤掉浪费我的时间。

#30 No.109569770
Anonymous · 2026-08-16 07:35

>>109569644

Yeah, enjoy wasting (You)r time with your FOTM meme text editor.

是的,享受在 FOTM meme 文本编辑器上浪费(你)时间的乐趣吧。

#31 No.109569785
Anonymous · 2026-08-16 07:38

>>109569770

au contraire, the text editor I've been using doesn't waste my time and has been great for decades.

相反,我一直在使用的文本编辑器并没有浪费我的时间,而且几十年来一直很棒。

#32 No.109569802
Anonymous · 2026-08-16 07:42

>>109564256

Vis feels like a step in between Helix and Vim the same way Helix feels like a step in between Kak and Vim. It has the advantage of being more familiar if you already know Vim well.

Vis 感觉像是介于 Helix 和 Vim 之间的一步,就像 Helix 感觉像是介于 Kak 和 Vim 之间的一步一样。如果您已经很了解 Vim,它的优点是会更熟悉。

#33 No.109569821
Anonymous · 2026-08-16 07:47

There is no debate

没有争论

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1786866432936016.jpg

#34 No.109569867
Anonymous · 2026-08-16 08:01

>>109569821

>Get microslop grabage ass ide cause retards at work can't properly set up their work env properly

>获取微斜度抓取屁股会导致工作中的迟钝者无法正确设置他们的工作环境

>"Here's your builtin ai with some useless features"

>“这是你的内置人工智能,带有一些无用的功能”

>"Look at our ai plugin, you can chat with the ai here!"

>“看看我们的ai插件,你可以在这里和ai聊天!”

Literally giving heroin to down syndrome babies, my team lead and his genx friends were already useless beforehand, now they have an ego masturbator built into their ide?

毫不夸张地说,给唐氏综合症婴儿喂海洛因,我的团队领导和他的一代朋友以前就已经没用了,现在他们的IDE中内置了自我自慰器?

Swear to god some people need to go back to editing text with notepad

对天发誓,有些人需要重新使用记事本编辑文本

#35 No.109569969
Anonymous · 2026-08-16 08:24

>>109569867

HOLY SEETHE

#36 No.109569984
Anonymous · 2026-08-16 08:29

>>109567292

Because you eventually just b wasn't something that just werkz. Also this antagonism towards modern ides is kind of confusing to me. Stuff like Intellij and VS code is exactly what Emacs would turn to today if it wasn't bagged down by orthodox free software ideology.

因为你最终只是 b 不只是 werkz 的东西。这种对现代理念的对抗也让我感到困惑。如果没有受到正统自由软件意识形态的束缚,像 Intellij 和 VS code 这样的东西正是 Emacs 今天会转向的东西。

#37 No.109570007
Anonymous · 2026-08-16 08:37

>>109564013

These types of posts always make me wonder, are the people making fun of jeets, jeets themselves?

这些类型的帖子总是让我想知道,人们是在取笑吉特,吉特本身吗?

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