/pcbg/ - PC Building General

>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE

Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/

Provide specific use cases

提供具体使用场景

State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped

说明BUDGET（预算）和COUNTRY（国家），否则绝不帮

>CASE

mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, XT M3

mATX：AP201、联力A3、XT M3

ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207/217, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50, BF360

ATX：XT PRO (ULTRA)、AIR 903 Base/MAX、Lancool 207/217、Flux Pro、Meshify 3、4000D 框架、X50、BF360

Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8

双腔: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8

>CPU

Budget: 7500F, 7/9600/X, 225/F, 12600K/F, 5600/X

预算配置：7500F、7/9600/X、225/F、12600K/F、5600/X

Gaming: 9850X3D, 9/7800X3D, 250K, 5800XT

游戏配置：9850X3D、9/7800X3D、250K、5800XT

Workstation: 9950X/3D(2), 9900X/3D, 270K

工作站：9950X/3D（双），9900X/3D，270K

>COOLER

AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Cooler Master Atmos, Lian Li GA II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, be Quiet Silent Loop 3

一体式水冷：Thermalright Frozen Edge、Cooler Master Atmos、Lian Li GA II Lite、Corsair Nautilus RS、be Quiet Silent Loop 3

Dual tower: A620 PRO SE, Phantom Spirit, NH-D15 G2

双塔：A620 PRO SE、Phantom Spirit、NH-D15 G2

ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

ITX/>42mm 内存兼容：Mugen 6 Dual Fan、AXP120-X67

TIM: MX-7, Duronaut, PTM7950 (phase change), KryoSheet (carbon sheet)

硅脂(TIM)：MX-7、Duronaut、PTM7950 (相变片)、KryoSheet (碳片)

*Most listings online are not actually 7950

*网上大多数 listings 其实根本不是 7950

>MOTHERBOARD

Avoid ASRock AM5 boards, CPU degradation issues still reported

避开ASRock的AM5主板，仍有人反馈CPU退化问题

Choose boards with ALC1220 audio codec if possible

如果可能的话，选带ALC1220音频解码芯片的主板

>RAM

DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)

DDR5：2x16GB 或 2x24GB，6000CL30 (AMD)，6400CL32 (Intel)

Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)

工作站：2x 32GB (预算型)，2x48GB 或 2x64GB (高端)

DDR4: 3200CL16, 3600CL18

>SSD (Keep firmware updated)

>SSD (保持固件更新)

DRAMless: 7100, NM790

无DRAM缓存方案：7100、NM790

PCIe Gen 4.0: 850X

Gen 5.0: 8100

https://borecraft.com/

>GPU

Budget: Arc B580, 9060 XT, 5060, used card

入门级：Arc B580, 9060 XT, 5060, 二手卡

*8GB has become a major constraint even at 1080p

*8GB即使在1080p下都成了大瓶颈

Midrange: 9060 XT 16GB, 5060 TI 16GB, 5070

中端：9060 XT 16GB, 5060 TI 16GB, 5070

High-end 1440p & Midrange 4K: 9070 XT, 5070 Ti

高端1440p和中端4K：9070 XT, 5070 Ti

Workstation: 5090, 7900XTX

工作站显卡：5090、7900XTX

>PSU

Buying guide:

购买指南：

https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR

1080p: 24" 165/180hz IPS, KTC H25X7

1440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), discounted OLED

1440p：27英寸 165/180Hz IPS 屏，KTC M27T6 (Mini-LED)，折扣款 OLED

4K:KTC M27P6 (miniLED), discounted OLED

4K：KTC M27P6 (Mini-LED)，折扣款 OLED

>OS

Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

激活 Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS

Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans

机箱建议：自带优质 PWM 风扇的机箱

Midrange: Pure Wings 3, Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)

中端风扇：Pure Wings 3、Arctic P12 Pro、P14 Pro (5包装，高转速下较吵)

High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)

高端风扇：Fractal Momentum、Noctua G2 (140mm 或 120mm)

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Think for yourself. Do not blindly trust advice given here.

独立思考。不要盲目信任这里给出的建议。

>A /pcbg/ for every use case and budget!

>A /pcbg/ 适用于每种使用场景和预算！

>Price tracking

>价格追踪

RAM: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ram/ram-price-index-2026-lowest-price-on-ddr5-and-ddr4-memory-of-all-capacities

SSD: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ssds/ssd-price-tracking-2026-lowest-price-on-every-m-2-ssd

GPU: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/lowest-gpu-prices-tracking

>GPU hierarchy 2026

>2026 GPU 层级排行

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html

>PSU Reviews

>电源评测

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies

https://www.lttlabs.com/

https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:

给喜欢排行榜的朋友：

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews

>存储设备评测

https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)

https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

>Monitor Hunter

>显示器猎人

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Other helpful Links

>其他有用链接

Mobomaps: https://mobomaps.com/

A PC build guide: https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PC

German autism: https://www.igorslab.de/en/

Alternate to pcpartpicker: https://pangoly.com/en/pc-builder

AI took away our affordable hardware.

AI把我们的平价硬件弄没了。

Fuck AI. Stop giving money to AI companies.

去他妈的AI，别再给AI公司送钱了。

Nothing will get better. It's over.

什么都不会变好。完蛋了。

Your current GPU WILL be your last GPU.

你现在这显卡就是你最后一块显卡了。

I love nvidia

我爱NVIDIA

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hmmmmmmmmmmmm. i cant help but notice the lack of a blackwell 6000 in the OP.

嗯……我怎么没在主楼里看到blackwell 6000的影子

hmmmmmm I can't help but notice the lack of helios racks in the OP

嗯……我怎么没在主楼里看到helios机架的影子

I know they aren't for consumers but has anyone built a full nvidia desktop with their cpus? We can do amd cpu/gpu and intel cpu/gpu so just wondering if someone has done a double pairing for nvidia.

我知道这些不是面向消费者的，但有人用NVIDIA的CPU装过全NVIDIA台式机吗？AMD CPU/GPU、Intel CPU/GPU都能配，就想知道有没有人试过NVIDIA双搭配。

>>109472393

>>109472404

plap plap plap plap

啪啪啪啪

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>>109472346

>>109472349

I upgraded solely for AI

我升级纯是为了AI

I asked an MSI customer service rep about the speed of the RAM on one of their computers, and they literally said

我问过微星客服他们某台电脑内存速度，他们直接说

>I don't have that information because we don't advertise it

>“这信息我们没有，因为不宣传”

YEAH NIGGA, that's why I called you. WHO ELSE AM I SUPPOSED TO ASK?

对嘛，老哥，我就是因为这才会打给你。不问你们还能问谁？

He literally said

他原话就是这么说的

>You'll have to buy the machine to find out what its speed is

>你得先买那台机器，才能知道它的速度是多少

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Is an x3d chip important if you're going to play on 4K?

如果要在4K分辨率下玩游戏，x3d芯片重要吗？

>>109472789

say it with me

跟我一起说

it

depends

>>109472789

Depends on the games you play.

这要看玩什么游戏。

If you want to save some money, it's fine to get a non-X3D chip @ this resolution.

如果想省点钱，这个分辨率下用非X3D芯片也完全没问题。

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-7700x3d/19.html

>>109472789

it's not that hard to reach 120fps+ in games using fsr, dlss, frame generation even at 4k, a ryzen 5600 would gimp you then. but a 9600 should be acceptable.

在4K下用FSR、DLSS、帧生成打到120fps以上其实不难，但要真这样的话，ryzen 5600确实会拖后腿。不过9600应该够用了。

>>109472360

My 4090 is all I fucking need until I die.

我的4090够我用到死，其他啥都不需要。

>don't buy VA monitors

>别买VA屏

too bad fucking redditor. I love my chinese 1440p mini led that shines brighter than your overpriced oled scam with better color accuracy and a screen that doesn't require jewish daycare in order to not break in three years.

说这话的该死的红迪仔真可怜。我就爱我的国产1440p mini LED，亮度吊打你那台贵得要死的OLED智商税，色彩准确度更强，屏幕也不用像伺候祖宗一样供着，三年内不会坏。

I will never pay money for either very bad contrast on IPS or this retarded "premium" technology that artificially malfunctions right after warranty ends.

IPS那个烂对比度我永远不会掏钱买，这种保修期一过就故意出故障的所谓“高端”技术更别想让我买单。

I'm the last VA warrior standing proud. You can suck my cock and balls.

我是最后一个坚守VA阵营的战士，骄傲地站着。爱咋咋地。

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>>109472789

X3D is facultative obligatory for gaming.

X3D是游戏党“可选但必买”的东西。

AI will dismantle capitalism in its entirety. it's a much needed correction. i want redditors to cry when they cannot afford funko pops and the latest games.

AI会彻底拆掉资本主义。这是必要的修正。我就想看着reddit那帮人买不起Funko Pop和最新游戏时哭爹喊娘。

retard

nothing matters in this life. i want to end it all

这辈子啥都不重要。我想结束这一切

>>109472992

If nothing matters, you might as well stick around

既然什么都不重要，那不如就待着呗

>>109472992

your desire to end it all doesn't matter bro

兄弟，你想结束一切的欲望同样不重要

>there is only one 3840x1600 37.5 inch monitor on the market with a high refresh rate

>市面上只有一款3840x1600分辨率的37.5寸高刷显示器

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>>109473042

well i exist in a world that abuses me merely for existing it's pretty tiresome

我活在一个光是存在就会被虐待的世界里，真的累死了

>>109473044

>why wont megacorps cater to my very specific set of requirements

>为啥大厂不照顾我那堆极其特殊的需求

>>109473055

better than 21 by 9

比21:9好多了

110dpi

perfect for sitting at 60cm from it

坐距60厘米看它刚刚好

more vertical room for video editing, documents and web browsing

垂直空间更大，剪视频、看文档、刷网页都更舒服

just a better ultra wide experience

这才是更好的超宽体验

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>>109473085

Why not settle for a 38" 3840x2160 screen and accept the horrifying and totally undesirable extra resolution?

干嘛不将就一台38寸3840x2160的屏，欣然接受那多出来的、恐怖至极、完全多余的像素呢？

>>109473100

i don't want to use scaling. 100% is where it is at. if i have to use scaling i might as well use a tv but then i would have to get a deeper desk that is more than 80cm deep which i don't want.

我不想开缩放。100%才是王道。要是得开缩放我还不如用电视，但那又得换一张超过80cm深的桌子，我不想搞。

>>109471207

That did not work. At this point I'm considering returning the new card and using OpenCL with my old card for my needs (I'm >>109465053)

那样没用。现在我在考虑把新卡退了，用我的旧卡走OpenCL来满足需求（我是 >>109465053）

>>109473140

Sorry, I meant I'm >>109464994

抱歉，我是想说 >>109464994

>>109473131

You wouldn't have to use scaling over 7 extra pixels per inch.

每英寸多7个像素而已，根本用不着开缩放。

1600p:

Display size: 34.62" × 14.42" = 499.26in2 (87.92cm × 36.63cm = 3221.03cm2) at 110.93 PPI, 0.229mm dot pitch, 12306 PPI2

显示尺寸：34.62英寸 × 14.42英寸 = 499.26平方英寸（87.92厘米 × 36.63厘米 = 3221.03平方厘米），109.93 PPI，点距0.229毫米，12306 PPI²

2160p:

Display size: 32.68" × 18.38" = 600.89in2 (83.02cm × 46.7cm = 3876.7cm2) at 117.49 PPI, 0.2162mm dot pitch, 13804 PPI2

显示尺寸：32.68英寸 × 18.38英寸 = 600.89平方英寸（83.02厘米 × 46.7厘米 = 3876.7平方厘米），117.49 PPI，点距0.2162毫米，13804 PPI²

In fact, considering the display is narrower, you could sit even closer to it.

其实，屏幕更窄的话，你还能坐得更近。

>>109473162

it is still not ultrawide

那它也不是超宽啊

>>109472288

I need to vent. This thing is normally $1000 and it's on sale for $900 (new). I found an open box on eBay for $650 and saw that I could make an offer. I put $600 and it was accepted instantly. Tax was $50; shipping was free. It made me wonder if I could've lowballed even lower.

我得吐槽一下。这东西正常价1000美元，现在新品特价900。我在eBay上找到一个开箱版650美元，看到可以出价，我就填了600，结果秒被接受。税50，免运费。这让我在想是不是出得更低也行。

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>>109473053

You abuse yourself by using Linux and AMD GPU's

你用Linux加AMD GPU，这就是在自虐啊。

>>109473254

wrong anon you got there. i am currently looking at new monitors.

匿名兄你搞错人了，我正盯着新显示器呢。