/ldg/ - Local Diffusion General

Discussion and Development of Local Image, Video, and Music Models

本地图像、视频和音乐模型的讨论与开发

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前文：>>109459105

https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide

>UI

ComfyUI: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI

SwarmUI: https://github.com/mcmonkeyprojects/SwarmUI

SDWebUI: https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide#the-stable-diffusion-web-ui-lineage

Wan2GP: https://github.com/deepbeepmeep/Wan2GP

>Checkpoints, LoRAs, & Upscalers

>检查点 (Checkpoints)、LoRA 和超分辨率模型

https://huggingface.co/models

https://huggingbay.xyz

https://civitai.com

https://civitaiarchive.com

https://openmodeldb.info

>Tuning

https://github.com/spacepxl/demystifying-sd-finetuning

https://github.com/ostris/ai-toolkit

https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainer

https://github.com/tdrussell/diffusion-pipe

https://github.com/kohya-ss/sd-scripts

https://github.com/kohya-ss/musubi-tuner

>Krea 2

>韩国2

https://huggingface.co/krea/Krea-2-Raw

https://huggingface.co/krea/Krea-2-Turbo

https://lumenastrum.github.io/clio-style-preview/gallery/

>Anima

https://huggingface.co/circlestone-labs/Anima

https://tagexplorer.github.io/

https://animadex.net

>Z

https://huggingface.co/Tongyi-MAI/Z-Image

>Klein

https://huggingface.co/collections/black-forest-labs/flux2

>Minimax H3

>最小化最大值 H3

https://huggingface.co/Comfy-Org/MiniMax-H3

>Wan

https://github.com/Wan-Video/Wan2.2

>Misc

Local Model Meta: https://rentry.org/localmodelsmeta

Share Metadata: https://catbox.moe | https://litterbox.catbox.moe/

Txt2Img Plugin: https://github.com/Acly/krita-ai-diffusion

Archive: https://rentry.org/sdg-link

Collage: https://rentry.org/ldgcollage_v2

>Neighbors

>>>/aco/csdg

>>>/b/degen

>>>/gif/vdg

>>>/d/ddg

>>>/e/edg

>>>/h/hdg

>>>/trash/slop

>>>/vt/vtai

>>>/u/udg

>Local Text

本地文本模型

>>>/g/lmg

>Maintain Thread Quality

>保持帖子的质量

https://rentry.org/debo

https://rentry.org/animanon

附件: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785869048829322.webm

>>109460446

thanks for the bake anon

谢谢烘焙，anon

>>109460448

I had no idea that Kyle was jewish lmao

我都不知道Kyle是犹太人，笑死我了。

>>109460431

>>109460454

Was really hoping it would be as easy as

真希望简单到就像这样：

>Replace the person in <Video 1> with the person in <Image 1>

>用<图片1>里的人替换<视频1>里的人

er_sde / simple 14 steps.

er_sde / 简单14步。

The gen and music seems less coherent but I'm not seeing too much artifacts.

生成和音乐看起来不太连贯，但没太看到伪影。

附件: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785869296928782.mp4

[https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1785868602448279.webm](https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1785868602448279.webm)

附件: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785869329848567.webm

>>109460498

I grabbed sol-attn so I'll try that next.

我抓了sol-attn，下次试试那个。

>>109460482

Did you never watch the show? They make fun of him for that in every other episode... Just look at his parents.

你没看过这剧吗？差不多每集都在笑话他这点……看看他爸妈就懂了。

>>109460466

Just what I needed, Seedvr runs out of memory with the fragment option too

正好我需要的，Seedvr开片段选项也内存不够了。

okay this south park t2v worked out pretty nice.

好，这个南方公园文生视频效果挺不错的。

Cartman from the show South Park is standing with Kyle, Stan, and Kenny from the show South Park, at the bus stop. Cartman says "Do you know who controls the world? THEY do. They control the news and social media". Cartman points at Kyle and says "ESPECIALLY the jews. Isn't that right Kyle.". Kyle says "oy vey, the goyim know too much!"

《南方公园》里的卡特曼和同剧的凯尔、斯坦、肯尼一起站在公交站。卡特曼说：“你知道谁掌控世界吗？是他们。他们掌控新闻和社交媒体。”卡特曼指着凯尔说：“尤其是犹太人，对吧凯尔。”凯尔说：“哎哟喂，外邦人知道太多了！”

https://files.catbox.moe/8vwlj3.mp4

What is the current workflow meta for H3?

现在H3的主流工作流是啥？

Flux 3 will blow this out of the water.

Flux 3会彻底碾压这个。

Slop tier trash.

垃圾级别的屎。

>>109460516

no I didn't, I prefered to watch the simpsons in their prime in the 90s, the only thing I watched from them was strong woman!

不，我没看，我更喜欢90年代巅峰期的《辛普森一家》，他们那部我只看了《大力女子》！

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785869635426659.png

>>109460539

Is your only purpose for living is crying about other models, why when I come back here there's still a worthless husk doing this?

你活着就只会哭天喊地抱怨别的模型吗，怎么我一回来，这儿还有个废物壳子在这干这事？

>knew seinfeld/office/etc would help your model go viral so intentionally overtrain on it

>知道《宋飞正传》《办公室》之类的能帮你模型爆火，所以故意过度训练它

kek based chinks

kek，基于事实的支那人发言

>>109460554

is there a list of known franchises aside from the obvious?

除了那些明显的，有没有已知的知名IP清单？

I have 8gb vram and 640kb ram, can I ran H3

我有8GB显存和640KB内存，能跑H3吗

>>109460498

go for 20 steps + spectrum instead >>>/wsg/6207922

试试20步加spectrum >>>/wsg/6207922

>>109460495

>>109460499

><Video 1> is the source video for the editing task.

><视频1>是编辑任务的源视频。

>Use the character from <Picture 1>, entirely replacing the original character in <Video 1>

>使用<图片1>中的角色，完全替换<视频1>中的原始角色

Tried that and had the same issue. I'm using the VHS video loader capped at 24fps (because I saw that framerate somewhere and I don't know what it's supposed to be). Trying the native video loader now.

试过了，还是同样的问题。我用的是VHS视频加载器，锁在24fps（因为我在哪看到过这个帧率，但不知道应该设多少）。现在试原生视频加载器。

>>109460534

I'll take a look at this when I get a chance, but if the above worked for the other anon, it should work for me as well. I must be doing something wrong.

我有空会看看这个，但如果上面那个对别的老哥管用，那对我来说也应该管用。肯定是我哪步搞错了。

>>109460473

Still can't trust catbox with links kek

还是不能信catbox的链接，kek

https://litter.catbox.moe/ic11otulrcfe0bu1.mp3

https://litter.catbox.moe/02303wkd9jovvnl8.mp3

https://litter.catbox.moe/l04zbwthcuf8iwum.mp3

https://litter.catbox.moe/zkssb64d1hgjxx9w.mp3

>>109460559

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_media_franchises

though this over/under estimates some, like sorpanos/breaking bad/etc is definitely way bigger than some of the list in terms of memeatic influence.

不过这有些高估/低估了，比如《黑道家族》《绝命毒师》之类的，在梗文化影响力上绝对比名单里一些东西大得多。

very light training. Needs undistill lora before proper training as it hurts quality too much

训练量很轻。正式训练前需要 undistill lora，不然质量掉太狠。

https://litter.catbox.moe/or1wyo8h856m9zjq.mp4

https://litter.catbox.moe/a7krt97d89r296fy.mp4

https://litter.catbox.moe/ao8ib8xk7m2t4hv4.mp4

https://litter.catbox.moe/or1wyo8h856m9zjq.mp4

It takes like 15 minutes for just 5 seconds, is there any way to speed things up? On a 4070 with 16 gb vram

生成5秒就要15分钟，有办法提速吗？用的是4070加16GB显存

>>109460554

No one's ever going to use local to gen anything other than goon content or memes.

没人会拿本地生成来做除了涩涩内容或梗图以外的东西。

>>109460566

>another episode of ACEschizo claiming his slop is better than Udio

>又是ACEschizo那集，吹自己的垃圾比Udio强

*yawn*

>>109460571

>>109460559

oh i guess you meant known by the model.

哦，我懂了，你说的是模型知道的那些。

seems like it gets southpark pretty much dead on. And even if it doesn't know something you can give it a reference

看起来它对南方公园拿捏得相当准。而且就算它不知道某样东西，你也能给它个参考。

>>109460561

Will try it after sol. I trust KJgod more than some random guy.

等sol之后试试。我信KJgod多过信某个路人。

14 step is because I'm trying to find the minimum number of steps that will produce a good output.

14步是因为我在找能产出好输出的最少步数。

>>>/wsg/6207956

https://files.catbox.moe/gnu7kd.mp4

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785869934525822.png

>>109460580

>another episode of ACEschizo claiming his slop is better than Udio

>又是ACEschizo那集，吹自己的垃圾比Udio强

It actually is though. I have studio monitors, this thing sounds almost as good as the actual studio recordings I gave it from my dataset. Udio is lower quality than that, but comes close. Suno doesn't even come anywhere near even with their latest v5.5 model. The gens themselves are truly a marvel, if ACEStep didn't occasionally mess up lyrics then it'd be possible to code up a script and have unlimited high quality music targeting any niche (E.G. 80s city pop etc...), similar to have a local radio or set of vinyls playing.

这还真是。我有监听音箱，这玩意儿听起来几乎和我在数据集里给它的那些真实录音室录音一样好。Udio质量比那个低，但很接近。Suno就算用最新的v5.5模型也完全比不了。这些生成品真算奇迹了，如果ACEStep不偶尔搞错歌词，就能写个脚本无限量生成针对任何小众口味的优质音乐（比如80年代城市流行什么的），就像本地电台或一堆黑胶在放。

idk how to say this but nobody cares about ACEstep besides you.

不知道咋说，但除了你没人关心ACEstep。

>>109460578

>No one's ever going to use local to gen anything other than goon content or memes.

>没人会用本地模型生成除了涩图或梗图之外的东西。

exactly, they knew exactly what they're doing, and I don't think they did that just by cold calculation, those chink engineers are probably like us and just wanted to make funny seinfield or breaking bad memes, it's a model made by the people for the people

没错，他们清楚自己在干嘛，而且我觉得这不只是冷冰冰的计算——那些中国工程师估计跟咱们一样，就想做点好笑的宋飞传或绝命毒师梗图，这是个人民造给人民的模型

>>109460577

Yes. Buy a GPU with more memory and more CUDA cores.

对。买块显存更大、CUDA核心更多的GPU。

who is ACEschizo

ACEschizo是谁

who is Udio

Udio又是谁

thanks for bakering

感谢烘焙（训练）

附件: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785870234544557.mp4

>>109460563

>>109460534

This worked. Thanks anon. Prompt ended up looking like

这个管用。谢了老哥。提示词最后长这样

>Replace the dancing woman in <Video 1> completely with the woman from <Picture 1>. Preserve the dance, body movements, facial performance, timing, camera movement, background, lighting, and outfit from <Video 1>. Transfer only the identity, face, hairstyle, skin tone, and body appearance of the woman from <Picture 1>; do not retain her yellow outfit.

>把<视频1>里的跳舞女人完全替换成<图片1>里的女人。保留<视频1>中的舞蹈、身体动作、面部表演、节奏、镜头运动、背景、灯光和服装；只移植<图片1>中女人的身份、脸、发型、肤色和身材；不要保留她的黄色衣服。

>>109460635

>pircel

kek

>>109460613

>nobody cares about ACEstep besides you.

>除了你没人关心ACEstep。

Good thing I don't use models based on perceived popularity

幸好我选模型不看人气

>>109460635

kino

>>109460623

>made by the people('s Republic of China) for the people

>人民（共和国）造给人民的

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785870291377068.png

>>109460578

guaranteed that THIS YEAR. we see quality full length content being entirely made using AI.

我敢保证今年之内，就会看到完全由AI制作的优质长片内容出现。

H3 is as good as any cloud model and a lot of creators (Big ones) were already using AI for B-roll.

H3跟任何云端模型一样强，而且很多创作者（大牌的）早就在用AI做补拍素材了。

You're fucking delusional if you don't think we're going to start seeing a lot more AI generated videos everywhere.

你要是不觉得AI生成的视频会铺天盖地出现，那你就是在自欺欺人。

>>109460635

Unironically my workflow right now. Anima->H3

说真的，我现在工作流就这样。Anima→H3

Using M3 to do the prompts for both

用M3帮俩写提示词

Fucking total kino overload. And no, I'm not sharing gens

简直神仙体验。但我不会分享生成结果的

>>109460647

I talked to actual chinese people and they're pretty chill, and they use a VPNs lot to navigate through the same sites as us

我跟真的中国人聊过，他们挺随和的，而且他们翻墙特勤快，逛的网站跟咱们一样 ┐ 我就烦我只能生成差不多5-8秒的片段

>>109460658

i just hate that im limited to pretty much 5-8s gens

我就是烦自己基本只能做5到8秒的招式。

>>109460645

Not saying you're not allowed to like it.

不是说你不准喜欢它。

Just keeping it real with you.

就是跟你实话实说。

>>109460651

>guaranteed that THIS YEAR. we see quality full length content being entirely made using AI.

>我敢保证今年之内，就会看到完全由AI制作的优质长片内容出现。

it's already happening, Midjourney + I2V Seedance is a killer combo

这已经在发生了，Midjourney加I2V Seedance是王炸组合

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyZhC2TXgcs

the cucking doesnt stop

这割韭菜就没停过

https://huggingface.co/Blackfrost-Research/MINIMAX-H3-NSFW

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785870614380398.png

>Minimax actively going after NSFW tunes and taking them down

>Minimax 在主动搞NSFW调子还给端了

Say what you want about BFL cucking their model, but they've never done this. The only things that get removed are flux klein nudifier loras and similar, and that's entirely HF / Civit removing them on their own.

随便你怎么说BFL阉割自家模型，但他们从没干过这种事。被删的只有flux klein脱衣lora这类东西，而且那纯粹是HF/Civit自己动手删的。

If BFL doesn't police Flux3 like this, they'll win. Ironic.

如果BFL不像这样管着Flux3，他们就赢了。讽刺啊。

>>109460691

>retarded esl in Bengaluru got caught

>班加罗尔那个智障外包工被抓了

Damn, I almost gave a fuck.

艹，我还差点当真了。

>>109460691

>I want to apologize

>我想道歉

what a fucking cuck holy shit

妈的纯纯怂包，服了

wtf, a glitch in the matrix, why did it suddenly swap

啥玩意，矩阵出故障了是吧，咋突然就换了

Modify Video 1 by completely replacing the character with the character from Image 1. Preserve the exact facial structure, features, hair, and appearance of the character in Image 1.

修改视频1，把角色完全替换成图1中的角色。保留图1角色的脸型、五官、发丝和外观特征，其余全部照旧。

https://files.catbox.moe/5rwrs0.mp4

>>109460677

Udio has anywhere from 3.8-4.8 million monthly users, Suno has around 2.2-6 million monthly users. ACEStep has roughly 60k downloads a month. That is roughly the number that care about music generation, though the vast majority on the Suno/Udio are completely normies and would have no clue how to set any of this up, but given the choice between local and API, they'd choose local if they knew any better. It's same as imagegen, MJ has a shit ton of monthly users, local is only a fraction of that userbase, but those guys don't know any better and so they're unaware better local models exist or how to run them.

Udio每月用户约380万到480万，Suno大概在220万到600万之间。ACEStep每月下载量大约6万。这就是关心音乐生成的人数，虽然Suno和Udio上的绝大多数用户完全是普通人，根本不知道怎么设置这些东西，但在本地和API之间选择的话，他们要是懂行就会选本地。这和图像生成一样，MJ每月有一大堆用户，本地用户只占其中一小部分，但那帮人不懂行，不知道有更好的本地模型存在，也不知道怎么跑起来。

Same seed, er_sde / simple 20step sol_atn

同样的种子，er_sde / 简单20步 sol_atn

8m46s

looks pretty similar to the 14 steps, I'll try dpmpp again.

看起来和14步差不多，我再试试dpmpp。

附件: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785870847583656.mp4

>>109460691

>we are apologize

>我们道歉

lmao, stinky jeet got got

哈哈哈，臭逼印度佬被收拾了

>>109460715

>no sound

>没声音

don't hesitate to put them here, it's insane that /g/ doesn't allow sound in the year of our lord 2003 + 23

别犹豫直接放这儿，主啊2023年了/g/还不让发声音，真有病

>>>/wsg/6198872

>>109460714

>Udio has anywhere from 3.8-4.8 million monthly users, Suno has around 2.2-6 million monthly users

>Udio每月用户约380万到480万，Suno大概在220万到600万之间

Yet I've never heard a single AI track that was worth listening to.

可我一条值得听的AI歌都没听过。

Really makes you think....

真让人深思……

>>109460726

anon...

>>109460714

i went on the sora plebbit and theres not a single thread mentioning minimax lol

我上了Sora的舔舔板子，压根没一个帖子提minimax的哈哈

(无正文)

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785871001063544.png

>>109460726

Really nigga?

真假的兄弟？

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785871012840471.jpg

>>109460723

>Yet I've never heard a single AI track that was worth listening to.

>可我一条值得听的AI歌都没听过

You can argue the music has no sovl all you want, and you're mostly right about Suno because it's pure slop, but you can't deny Udio makes really good music, much of which is much better than real music put out today (just would never get put on actual radio because labels can't legally sign AI). ACEStep is also there with LoRAs.

你想说这音乐没灵魂随便你，说Suno你基本说对了，因为纯纯一坨屎，但你没法否认Udio做出来的音乐确实好，很多比现在真出的歌强多了（只是永远不会上电台，因为唱片公司没法合法签AI）。ACEStep那边还有LoRAs撑着。

>>109460722

The sound has been pretty consistently correlated with video quality across all runs so that's why I'm not bothering including it.

所有跑出来的结果里，声音和视频质量一直挺一致的，所以我就懒得加进去了。

>>109460735

was ltx truly a wan replacement though?

但LTX真是WAN的替代品吗？ ┘ 更别提UMG急着收购了Udio然后关了下载。他们知道这东西有多牛，能把十亿美元级的大集团吓到。Suno只是小鱼小虾，他们不怎么在乎。

>>109460750

Not to mention UMG rushed to acquire Udio and disabled downloads. They're aware of how good it is, if it scares billion dollar conglomerates. Suno is the smaller fish in the pond, they don't care that much about it.

更别提环球音乐集团(UMG)急忙收购了Udio还关了下载功能。他们清楚这东西多厉害，连十亿美元级别的大集团都怕。Suno只是池塘里的小鱼，他们不太在意。

>>109460729

>>109460737

reddit is that way

贴吧出门左转

>>109460765

link to good Udio track?

给个好的Udio歌曲链接？

>>109460768

what was the subject and I'll decide that

主题是什么我再决定要不要点

>>109460752

I always though WAN was shit and I loved LTX as soon as I tried it. So yes.

我一直觉得WAN是垃圾，LTX我上手就爱上了。所以没错。

>>109460779

I have it in my browser cache but I'm not sharing~

我浏览器缓存里有但我不分享～

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785871329290339.png

>>109460691

And nothing of value was lost

毫无损失

>>109460800

She canonically likes older men. Do what you want with that information.

她的设定就是喜欢老男人。你自己掂量这信息。

No matter what, I can't get this not to be a pseudo-3D style. The references are highly stylized illustrations, and the instructions emphasize that it should use their medium, color, and line quality.

不管怎么调，我都搞不出非伪3D风格。参考图是高度风格化的插画，指令也强调要用它们的媒介、配色和线条质感。

附件: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785871406816689.mp4

>>109460809

All girls do

所有女的都这样

>mfw Resource news

>mfw 资源新闻

08/04/2026

>stable-diffusion.cpp adds support for MiniMax-H3

>stable-diffusion.cpp 新增对 MiniMax-H3 的支持

https://github.com/leejet/stable-diffusion.cpp/blob/master/docs/minimax_h3.md

>ComfyUI Spectrum MiniMax H3: 34% lower Euler sampling time, 30% lower RES time

>ComfyUI Spectrum MiniMax H3：Euler 采样时间降低34%，RES 时间降低30%

https://github.com/xmarre/ComfyUI-Spectrum-MiniMax-H3

>MIEScore: Human-Aligned Evaluation for Multi-Source Image Editing

>MIEScore：面向多源图像编辑的人类对齐评估

https://github.com/IntMeGroup/MIEScore

>PeCA: Palette Context Assisted Inference for Test-Time Paint-Bucket Colourisation on Animation Videos

>PeCA：调色板上下文辅助推理，实现动画视频测试时油漆桶着色

https://rathgrith.github.io/PeCA

>Kandinsky WM 1.0: A family of models for Physical AI

>Kandinsky WM 1.0：面向物理AI的模型家族

https://github.com/kandinskylab/kandinsky-wm

08/03/2026

>MiniMax H3 Official Video Prompt Writing Guide (T2VA / I2VA / FL2VA / L2VA)

>MiniMax H3 官方视频提示词编写指南（T2VA / I2VA / FL2VA / L2VA）

https://huggingface.co/MiniMaxAI/MiniMax-H3/blob/main/docs/VIDEO_PROMPT_WRITING_GUIDE_base_en.md

>Raylight 1.7.2 Adds MiniMax Support, 2x Speedup

>Raylight 1.7.2 新增 MiniMax 支持，速度提升 2 倍

https://github.com/komikndr/raylight/releases/tag/1.7.2

>Scaling Properties of Text Conditioning in Visual Generation

>视觉生成中文本条件化的缩放特性

https://heheyas.github.io/context-scaling

>Retrieval-Driven Training-Free AI-Generated Video Attribution

>基于检索的免训练 AI 生成视频溯源

https://github.com/renxi-seu/Video_Attribution

>A Frozen Pixel-Space Diffusion Model Can Guide Itself with Its Own Samples

>冻结的像素空间扩散模型可借助自身样本进行自引导

https://github.com/zfu006/SSG

>ComfyUI MiniMax H3 Image Studio (Experimental)

>ComfyUI MiniMax H3 图像工作室（实验版）

https://github.com/astropuzzo/ComfyUI-MiniMax-H3-Image-Studio

>MiniMax H3 — NVFP4 (Blackwell)

https://huggingface.co/lilcheaty/MiniMax-H3-NVFP4

08/02/2026

>MiniMax H3

>迷你最大H3

https://huggingface.co/MiniMaxAI/MiniMax-H3

>MiniMax H3: Repackaged model files for ComfyUI

>MiniMax H3：为 ComfyUI 重新打包的模型文件

https://huggingface.co/Comfy-Org/MiniMax-H3

>MiniMax-H3-INT8-CONVROT

https://huggingface.co/Gluttony10/MiniMax-H3-INT8-CONVROT

>MiniMax H3 COMMUNITY LICENSE AGREEMENT

>MiniMax H3 社区许可协议

https://huggingface.co/MiniMaxAI/MiniMax-H3/blob/main/LICENSE

>LoRA Dataset Studio

>LoRA数据集工作坊

https://github.com/perfectgf/lora-dataset-studio

>comfyui-vram-tracker

>comfyui显存追踪器

https://github.com/PuppetMasterAI/comfyui-vram-tracker

>mfw Research News

>我的表情：研究新闻

>>109459278

>>109459284

>>109460800

Yeah fuck that I'm not clicking that link, looks like something a redditor discord fag would post.

算了滚蛋我不点那链接，看着就像redditor和discord死宅发的玩意儿。

Tired of you rejects doing le hecking marvel you're just like me cope to justify your bullshit. Another faggot we chased off has the same mentality

受够你们这帮废物整什么“我们一样”的狗屁自我安慰了。刚赶走的另一个傻逼也是这副德行。

>>109460814

use Klein on the references to make them real first?

先用Klein把那些引用弄成真的再发？

>>109460774

https://www.udio.com/songs/wzKtEP7gHsuFNGnjvL9GKp

https://www.udio.com/songs/pHLn2TLb2jSsQfa9CC7S7J

https://www.udio.com/songs/heDdLtrK4wJcbQxShJW7sG

https://www.udio.com/songs/7V1AsaM5Dk13G1gSNwsKVs

https://www.udio.com/songs/c5tyeQ5x2jaxEExpp5ffgs

You will struggle to find anything like that from real music because Udio legitimately composes music based on every tag you give it, as opposed to rehashing what it was trained on (it's probably like a 10B or 20B DiT model)

你真想从真实音乐里找到那种东西怕是难，因为Udio是根据你给的每个标签正经作曲的，不是拿训练数据炒冷饭（它大概是个10B或20B的DiT模型）

dpmpp_2m_sde / simple 20steps + sol-attn

dpmpp_2m_sde / simple 20步 + sol-attn

8m56sec

quality definitely takes a hit with sol, but output is definitely better than er_sde

用sol画质确实掉一截，但输出肯定比er_sde强

附件: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785871642869797.mp4

>>109460829

You're trolling right?

你在逗我吧？

>>109460867

There's only two delusional music fags here. They need to go back to containment

这儿就俩妄想症音乐粉，他们该滚回小黑屋去

>literally Grok tier uncensored local video model with decent genning times

>字面意义上的Grok级无审查本地视频模型，生成速度还挺快

How the fuck did this happen?

这他妈怎么做到的？

In fact i daresay it's better than Grok was in october 2025 for lewd stuff.

说实话我觉得比2025年10月那会儿Grok搞涩涩的还强

>>109460818

thanks!

>>109460818

stop spamming unemployed loser

别刷屏了，失业的废物

>>109460903

Can you tell me what's useful in that post?

你能说说那帖子里有啥有用的吗？

remember to occasionally do a full gpu reset to flush out old context. win + ctrl + shift + B isn't enough, you need a complete reset

记得时不时做个完整的GPU重置把旧上下文清掉。win + ctrl + shift + B不够，得彻底重启才行

>>109460896

You can thank BFL. This model was only released because of Flux3 coming. Thank you BFL.

得谢BFL。这模型能放出来全靠Flux3要来了。谢谢BFL。

i2V from 8m to 4m just by updating comfy on my 3090 with everything left on default. Good stuff.

在3090上就更新了下comfy，啥设置没动，i2V从8m掉到4m。好东西。

>>109460910

It's n*gbo samefagging for the umpteenth time

又是那货n*gbo在这儿自导自演，第无数次了

>>109460867

Well, the music has soul, but music taste is subjective. Link to actual music you find you find good? Udio can probably do better by just searching for music in that genre.

嗯，音乐是有灵魂，但听歌口味本身就很主观。给我发个你觉得真不错的歌链接？Udio直接搜那个类型可能做得更好。

>>109460915

unironically this, somehow the chinks always want to dunk on BFL keek

真就是这样，也不知道为啥那些黄皮老爱黑BFL，真服了

>>109460924

I know which makes it more sad because he doesn't read what he post, just a autistic ritual going on for years

我知道，这更可悲，因为他压根不读自己发了啥，就是一自闭症仪式感折腾了好几年

>>109460925

>the music has soul

>音乐有灵魂

Anon.....

>>109460930

he has nothing else in his life to be proud of

他这辈子也没别的能拿来炫耀的了

reference test: need to fix the random talking but, it works.

引用测试：随机说话部分得修，但能用。

the man in image 1 is Ryan. the man in image 2 is Todd. Ryan is standing in a cyberpunk city at night with neon lights everywhere, looking up at a giant, translucent hologram of Todd, who is holding a "BUY SKYRIM" sign.

图1里那人是Ryan。图2里那人是Todd。Ryan站在夜晚的赛博朋克城市里，到处是霓虹灯，抬头看着一个巨大的半透明Todd全息影像，Todd举着块"快买SKYRIM"的牌子。

https://files.catbox.moe/wd5mhu.mp4

>>109460934

see

>>109460879

It's either the news spamming schizo or his drunk loser butt buddy

要么是那个爱刷新闻的精神病，要么就是他那个醉醺醺的loser酒友

using spectrum, is generation supposed to slow down to a crawl halfway in, literally 1s/it, then it gets fast for a brief moment, then slows down again

用spectrum，是不是生成到一半会慢成龟爬，直接1s/it，然后突然快一小会儿，又慢下来

still finishes fine tho

不过最后还能跑完

>>109460934

Composition is good, not lazy as many real humans who "make music", vocal energy is realistic, sounds like a slightly lower quality studio quality song.

编曲不错，不像很多真人"做音乐"那么敷衍，人声能量很真实，听起来像稍低一档的录音室品质歌。

>>109460896

grok was 100% scamming us with the prices they were charging. they acted like they were using alien tech when they were really just running a bunch of data centers churning out gens at 480p

grok那定价完全是在骗我们钱。他们装得跟用外星科技似的，其实就靠一堆数据中心在那儿跑480p的生成

>>109460914

Remember to also pray to the omnissiah and be respectful in the prompts towards the machine spirits.

记得还得拜万机神，在提示词里对机器灵客气点。

>1s/it is slowed to a crawl

>1s/it叫慢成龟爬

i hate this

我恨这玩意儿

>>109460896

idunno man. november's grok just worked. in h3 you have to animate everything by hand or it wont move which is like the post-nerf grok model.

不知道啊哥们。十一月的grok就是能直接跑。h3里啥都得手动动一下，不然它不动，就跟nerf之后的grok模型一个德行。

(无正文)

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785872376700520.jpg

>>109460945

>>109460879

Again with the popularity argument, if I only used models because others did I'd be an API fag and probably on Plebbit, you need to go back if that's where you came from

又来了，谈什么流行度，要是我只因为别人用啥我就用啥，那我就是API舔狗，八成还泡在Plebbit上，你要是从那儿来的，趁早滚回去。

>>109460818

>>stable-diffusion.cpp adds support for MiniMax-H3

>>stable-diffusion.cpp 新增了对 MiniMax-H3 的支持

>https://github.com/leejet/stable-diffusion.cpp/blob/master/docs/minimax_h3.md

Does it actually run any faster than comfy?

它跑起来真的比 comfy 快吗？

>>109460955

I really don't understand Musk, that dude is a trillionaire he can train bigger models and btfo everyone

我真搞不懂马斯克，那家伙是万亿富翁，明明能训练更大的模型把别人全秒了。

where cfg de-distill lora for h3

哪儿有 h3 的 cfg de-distill lora？

i care about this more than i do about speedups, if it's not trainable it's useless

这个比速度优化更让我在乎，要是不能训练那就是废物。

>>109460979

Also, I don't use Udio or any API model like Suno. Just acknowledging that it's good (and only unsurpassed out of the box), local is ahead with LoRAs, it's a healthy mindset.

而且我也不用 Udio 或 Suno 那种 API 模型。承认它好（而且只是开箱即用时无人能比），本地靠 LoRA 更领先，这才是健康心态。

Guys, I think we need to seal Minimax H3 in a chest and store it somewhere where it can never be found, kind of like the Ark of the Covenant. This is a power that us mere mortals were never meant to have, and I fear what we might eventually do with it. This is exactly why cloud model providers are so conscious about safety and we need to heed their warnings.

各位，我觉得得把 Minimax H3 封进箱子里，藏到永远没人找得到的地方，就像约柜那样。这种力量不是我们凡夫俗子该碰的，我担心咱们早晚会拿来干出什么事。这正是云端模型厂商那么重视安全的原因，咱们得听他们的劝。

>>109460446

Anyone got the list of characters Minimax do well in house ???

有人知道 Minimax 在家用侧擅长做哪些角色吗？？？

I know Miku and Goku but what about others ?

我知道 Miku 和 Goku，但还有别的吗？

>>109461004

The Seinfeld cast, including their voices.

《宋飞传》那帮人，连声音都像。

>>109460981

Little known fact but Musk wasn't conceived the usual way, he was genned as human slop by his father. That's why he continued that reproductive model himself.

冷知识，马斯克不是正常怀上的，他是他爹用"人类饲料"模式生成的，所以他自己也延续了那套繁殖模式。

>>109460980

it runs gguf and has spectrum

它跑 gguf，还有 spectrum。

>>109461011

Any complete lists of other characters ?

有其他角色的完整列表吗？

Should I expect minimax h3 to eventually have nsfw loras like wan 2.2 did?

Minimax h3 会不会像 wan 2.2 那样最后出 nsfw lora？

>>109461031

what is spectrum? Can we not run gguf in comfy?

spectrum 是啥？gguf 不能直接在 comfy 里跑吗？

man i really fucking wish i could use two gpus to speed up generation

唉我真他妈希望能用两块显卡加速生成。

>>109461033

I guess people only do Seinfeld, Costanza and Krame because the rest of the cast is pretty weak in comparaison

我猜大家只玩 Seinfeld、Costanza 和 Kramer，因为其他角色对比起来太拉了。

>>109461045

Just let it run overnight

让它跑一晚上不就完了。

Time to bump the megapixels

该把像素往上推了。

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785872954167901.jpg

>>109460999

(You) Problem

(You) 问题

What's a safe max temp for a modern gpu? I'm being a pussy and keeping it at 70C but i'm guessing i can go closer to 80C

现代显卡安全温度上限是多少？ 我怂得一直压在70度，但我猜可以往80度靠。

>>109461044

if you want pain maintaining your comfy install then sure

你要是想折磨自己维护 comfy 安装那随你。

>>109461051

Krea can do like 4 megapixels or some shit, insane.

Krea 能出4百万像素还是啥的，离谱。

>>109461046

No i mean from other series or anime.

不，我是说其他系列或动漫的。

Can it do Cardcaptor Sakura or Kagamine Rin ?

它能做魔卡少女樱或镜音铃吗？

>>109461060

About Sakura, you might want to check the archives of this very thread

关于小樱，你可以翻翻这个楼的老存档。

>>109461055

There's no such thing as "unsafe", they will start throttling before any damage is done, anything below 90 is okay.

没什么"不安全"的，真出事前它会先降频，90以下都没事。

>>109461044

Spectrum is a kv cache method that speeds up the Gen and doesn't look as dofshit as easycache

Spectrum 是一种 kv 缓存方法，能提速生成，而且看着不像 easycache 那么屎。 ⤍ 所以好阵子没用 comfy 了，现在做图还是 z-turbo 吗，还是出了更好的？

so havent used comfy in a while is turbo z used to make images still or is something better about now?

好一阵子没用comfy了，现在还是用turbo z出图，还是有更好用的新东西了？

>>109461060

if it can't you just use references, it works well, or you do I2V

如果不能直接做，就上参考图，效果不错，或者走 I2V。

https://files.catbox.moe/btwd6y.mp4

>>>/wsg/6207980

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785873173689564.png

>>109461055

permanent damage starts around 60C for workloads >1m

负载超过1百万次时，永久损伤大概从60度开始。

>>109461077

nah z-image got replaced by krea2

不，z-image 被 krea2 取代了。

>>109461059

>>109461059

This is 8

这是8。

Moving up to 12 now will show the results

现在升到12，结果就出来了。

>>109461068

This

I still undervolt (it can be done using lact on linux)

我还是降压跑（Linux 上可以用 lact 搞定）。

So I rarely see 80 unless I'm doing vibe coding

所以我很少见到80，除非我在搞vibe coding

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785873230311809.jpg

>>109461057

>>109461069

Have either of you tried stable-diffusion.cpp with H3? Are you on linux? I only have 24GB vram. Is it going to lock my system up?

你们俩试过带H3的stable-diffusion.cpp吗？你们用的是Linux吗？我只有24GB显存。会不会把系统搞死机？

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附件: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785873270717543.webm

>>109461091

>nah z-image got replaced by krea2

>不，z-image已经被krea2取代了

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785873275451635.png

>>109460554

It knows a shit ton of shows, I doubt it's overtrained on Seinfeld, seen Star Trek TNG, Breaking Bad etc videos that look spot on

它知道的剧多得离谱，我觉得它没过度训练在《宋飞正传》上，看《星际迷航：下一代》、《绝命毒师》这些视频都像模像样的

>>109461055

If anything in your PC goes over about ~100-105C the whole thing will turn itself off as a safety measure unless something has gone really wrong and most GPUs are rated to around that point I think. I wouldn't keep it there consistently though, if you want stuff to last so don't push it too hard.

你电脑里任何部件超过大约100-105C，整个机器就会自动关机作为安全措施，除非真出了大问题，而且大多数GPU的额定温度也就差不多那儿。但我不会一直让它待在那温度，想让东西耐用就别使劲压。

70C is kinda cool desu, I'd only worry if it goes over 90 consistently.

70C说实在的挺凉快的，我只有连续超90才会担心。

single stick of 32GB of DDR5 5600 for $250 CAD, good deal or bad?

单条32GB DDR5 5600，250加元，划算还是不划算？ ┃ 我有点想买两条，这样能在我的小NUC上跑点像样的模型

I'm tempted to buy 2 so I can run decently sized models on my little nuc

我挺想买两个的，这样就能在我那台小NUC上跑像样点的模型了。

Guys, I have a question.

兄弟们，我有个问题。

Is Qwen3 Image obsolete?

Qwen3 Image是不是过时了？

What about Flux Klein?

Flux Klein怎么样？

https://litter.catbox.moe/n7li7lwi5xjau2vf.mp4

kek there's definitely an art to prompting because the camera angle sucks but holy shit this is amazing out of the box

kek，提示词确实有门道，因为镜头角度烂爆了，但卧槽这开箱效果也太神了

Now to test how it changes the scene based on duration

现在来测测它怎么根据时长改变场景

>>109461090

>implying it reaches 60C in the first place

>暗示它真能到60C似的

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785873374306350.png

is there an update to t5xxl_fp8_e4m3fn_scaled?

t5xxl_fp8_e4m3fn_scaled有更新吗？

I can't make r2v longer than 10s on a 12+64 setup even with flash attenrion attached

我在12+64的配置上就算挂了flash attention也搞不定r2v超过10秒

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785873387799072.jpg

>>109461108

what about red dwarf, mts3k, mr bean

《红矮星》、《神秘科学影院3000》、《憨豆先生》这些呢

>>109461101

>Accumulated downloads over 7 months when there was no actual competition

>7个月累计下载量，当时根本没有真正的竞争

Krea 2 has indeed replaced ZiT, but it had a great run.

Krea 2确实取代了ZiT，但它跑得挺风光。

>>109461111

64gb is minimum

64GB是底线

>>109461117

You're supposed to use [Shot 1], [Shot 2], etc. Read the docs.

你应该用[Shot 1]、[Shot 2]这种格式，去读文档。

>>109461101

well youre free to point to all the z image gens in the thread

行啊，你尽管在帖子里指给我看所有z-image生成器

might be pushing it a bit too far at 12MP might have to cap it at 10

12MP可能有点过了，可能得限制在10

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785873548843459.jpg

>>109461124

lower your steps

把步数调低点

>most videos are simple i2v/t2v shit

>大部分视频就是些简单的i2v/t2v垃圾

When are you guys going to develop your mastery with the real model, r2v.

你们啥时候能真正玩明白r2v这个正经模型啊？

Are you all too brainlet to master the prompt structure?

你们是不是都脑子不够用，驾驭不了提示词结构？

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785873585225308.png

>>109461125

No idea, but most likely you will have best luck with really famous shows, think Friends type mainstream popularity

不知道，但最有可能的是你得挑特别火的剧，想想《老友记》那种主流爆款

>>109460578

that's pretty defeatis. In retrospect, stuff like qwen for coding or this h3 right here were absolutely out of the question not so long ago.

这心态太丧了。回头看，像qwen写代码或者这个h3，不久之前根本是想都不敢想的。

2 years ago, local models were a joke, now you can actually use them for something """real""", whatever that means.

两年前，本地模型就是个笑话，现在你真能用它们干点“正经”事了，虽然这“正经”也说不清是啥。

https://files.catbox.moe/i20woj.mp4

For some reason unlike imgen nobody is sharing their prompts for vidgen here, is it because they're too long?

不知道为什么，不像imgen这边，vidgen的提示词没人分享，是不是因为太长了？

>>109461165

secret sauce

秘方

you're not getting my ooey gooey

你别想从我这儿套出真本事

>>109461165

the workflows are in the videos newfaggot

工作流都在视频里呢，新人

>>109461138

I've got 32GB (2x16) now so I can finally join the min spec club then.

我现在有32GB（2x16）了，终于能挤进最低配置俱乐部。

>>109461154

>that much work for 5-15 seconds of throwaway slop

>费那么大劲就为5-15秒的随手破玩意

>>109461165

Yeah, my last prompt was just over 3,700 words.

是啊，我上条提示词就刚过3,700字。

>>109461165

you really don't need to make long prompts, like you can just describe the scene in the most simple way possible and it can fill the blank by itself, I guess that's the advantage of using a 32b text encoder model

你真的不用写那么长的提示词，就简单描述一下场景，它能自己脑补剩下的，这可能就是32b文本编码模型的好处吧。

>>109461154

I'm using it for lip syncing already made audio, is a bit much for simple memes though

我拿它来做音频对口型，但用来整点简单梗图有点大材小用了。

>>109461170

......64 gb is the minimum.

……64GB是门槛。

>>109461171

Bro Minimax H3 is the future of storytelling.

兄弟，Minimax H3就是叙事的未来。

>>109461165

im selling workflows and people are buying them like candy. im making so much fucking money off retards.

我在卖工作流，人们抢着买。我靠着这帮傻子赚翻了。

so why the hell would i give that away just for some (You)s on 4chan?

所以凭啥我要为了4chan上几个（You）就把这东西白送出去？

>>109461184

Which is why I would be upgrading from 2x16 to 2x32......

所以我才要从2x16升到2x32……

0 to 3s: the dog on the left glows with a blue aura and says "you will NOT shock me any more!" to the man with glasses. 4 to 10s: the dog runs and punches the man with glasses with their paws, launching the man to the right through the wall of the room and onto the highway in Los Angeles. He lands on the road and creates a large explosion.

0到3秒：左边的狗发出蓝色光环，对戴眼镜的男人说“你再也电不到我了！” 4到10秒：狗跑过去用爪子揍戴眼镜的男人，把他打飞穿过房间的墙，落到洛杉矶的高速公路上。他砸在地上引发大爆炸。

https://files.catbox.moe/at2mwu.mp4

>>109461182

If only that would work in real time with LLMs

要是这玩意能实时配合LLM就好了。

>>109461171

you know, a movie never makes a continuous shot that's more than 15 seconds, so you can literally make your own movie if you know what you're doing >>109460687

你知道吗，电影里很少有超过15秒的连续镜头，所以你要是懂行，真能自己拍电影 >>109460687

>>109461176

>like you can just describe the scene in the most simple way possible and it can fill the blank by itself,

>就简单描述一下场景，它能自己脑补剩下的，

not true..

不对吧……

in my experience, sparse prompt = sparse motion, especially with multiple characters. if you want them moving naturally and not having limbs frozen still, you've really got to tell it to move, at least with 2D animation.

依我的经验，提示词越简略，动作就越僵，特别是多角色的时候。想让它们动得自然、别四肢冻住，真得把动作写清楚，至少2D动画是这样的。

>>109461195

>onto the highway in Los Angeles

>落到洛杉矶的高速公路上

it's gta 5, kino

这是GTA5啊，绝了。

>>109461200

>a movie never makes a continuous shot that's more than 15 seconds

>电影里很少有超过15秒的连续镜头

>>109461154

Working on a music video as a test. It's harder than I thought to sync cuts together.

我拿音乐视频当试验做，想对齐剪辑点比我预想的难多了。

>>109460787

Wan was pretty much the only thing used before LTX and Wan has better phsics than LTX. LTX won over people due to the speed, the audio and the overall use. I still think Wan and LTX are useful but it will be telling once H3 get's faster and has Loras how those models will quickly be forgotten by all. LTX and Wan can still do things minimax can't, however already it looks like that won't last too much longer.

在LTX之前基本全是Wan，而且Wan的物理效果比LTX好。LTX靠速度、音频和整体易用性赢了大家的心。我仍然觉得Wan和LTX有用，但等H3更快、出了Loras，估计很快就会被所有人遗忘。LTX和Wan还能做一些minimax做不了的事，不过看这趋势，也撑不了多久了。

>>109461214

https://stephenfollows.com/p/many-shots-average-movie

you learn everyday anon

每天都有新知识啊，anon。

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785874189482628.png

Any of you guys have experience with voice cloning?

你们有人搞过声音克隆吗？

Is there a resource for downloading clean voice samples of certain people and/or characters? I tried 101soundboards, but my major problem with that website is how shit the audio quality is.

有没有地方能下载某些人或角色的干净语音样本？我试过101soundboards，但那个网站最大的问题就是音频质量差到离谱。 ⧸⟧ 唯一靠谱的办法是不是自己从影视里扒干净的对白片段再剪辑拼起来？

Is the only reliable way to scour clean dialogue scenes from media then rip and compile them myself?

想干净地提取媒体中的对话片段，是不是唯一靠谱的办法就是自己扒下来再剪辑？

The only thing the model seems to get confused on easily is who is saying what, especially when there's more than 2 people in a scene

这个模型最容易搞混的就是谁在说话，尤其是场景里超过两个人的时候。

benchmark idea : put 7 distinct characters in a row and get each of them to say Do, Re, Mi, Fa, So, La Ti left to right

基准测试想法：排7个不同角色，从左到右让他们各说Do、Re、Mi、Fa、So、La、Ti。

hard mode : randomize the order

困难模式：打乱顺序随机来。

i can finally make my indiana jones and mummy crossover movie im gonna be rich bitches.

我终于能拍我的印第安纳·琼斯和木乃伊跨界电影了，老子要发大财了，贱人们。

>>109461221

RVC Mangio Crepe (2023) + Ultimate Vocal Remover. No other local based programs does it better that I know of.

RVC Mangio Crepe (2023) 加 Ultimate Vocal Remover。据我所知，没有别的本地程序比这更好用。

>>109460750

That is because you already formed an opinion that because it's AI it shit. A blind test would soon sort that out, because all music now is heavily produced you would not be able to tell the difference unless you know familiar traits with AI gens as per Suno. My argument would be AI already bests anything produce now because let's face it, all non AI music released now by any artist is complete and utter garbage.

那是因为你早就认定只要是AI就是垃圾。做个盲测立马见分晓，因为现在所有音乐都重度后期制作，除非你熟悉Suno这类AI生成的套路特征，不然根本分不出来。我的观点是AI已经碾压现在所有产出了，因为说白了，现在任何艺人发行的非AI音乐全是一坨彻头彻尾的屎。

>>109461219

Biography being on the action side of the distribution is unexpected

传记被放在动作片的发行分类里，真没想到。

>>109461154

I can do it but it's bigly slow on my 5070ti and can't really get it more than 6 seconds @ 0.5mp.

我能跑，但在我这5070ti上慢得要命，而且0.5mp分辨率下最多只能撑6秒。

https://files.catbox.moe/m8xh52.mp4

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785874373826832.png

>>109461090

>>109461122

uh, guys?

呃，各位？

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785874425123669.jpg

>>109461154

>When are you guys going to develop your mastery with the real model, r2v.

>你们啥时候能好好练练真模型 r2v 啊。

the ultimate tool is definitely i2v, because you can make a really detailled image/drawing and ask it to animate it, wheras if you use r2v it just create a slop setting that will never reach the level of a carefully crafted image

终极工具绝对是 i2v，因为你可以做一张细节爆炸的图/画，然后让它动起来；而用 r2v 的话，它只会生成一个粗糙的烂场景，永远达不到精心构图那水平。

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785874531104117.png

>>109461245

just buy a few more GPUs, you're not poor right?

再多买几块GPU呗，你又不穷对吧？

>>109461238

if you consider biographies might include stuff that throw a still image and/or text on the screen for a couple seconds not really?

你要是觉得传记片会包含那种屏幕上放个静图或字幕几秒钟的镜头，那还真不算？

>>109461090

complete bullshit

纯属放屁 ⟦ 用MSI Afterburner限制最高温度啊，操！

>>109461245

use MSI afterburner to limit the max temp goddamit!

用MSI Afterburner限制最高温度，行不行啊！

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785874591435667.png

I heard that the higher resolution and more detailed your input image is, the better quality the result got even in low res, is that true ?

我听说输入图像分辨率越高、细节越丰富，即使输出低分辨率结果质量也会更好，这是真的吗？

Greetings from India

来自印度的问候

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785874593948557.png

>>109461219

>Average

By definition a significant number of the shots in each of those would be significantly longer than

按定义来说，这些片子里的相当一部分镜头都会明显长于……

I am curious if the shot length would have actually reduced by now in an attempt to keep up with shortening attention spans.

我挺好奇的是，为了跟上越来越短的注意力跨度，镜头时长到现在是不是已经真的缩短了。

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPiSB8fSviE

>>109461245

Push it to 100 ° then use it to heat water and use the resulting steam to spin a turbine. While the reclaimed energy is negligible it'll make you feel like it's making more work.

给它推到100度，然后用它加热水，再用蒸汽去转涡轮。虽然回收的能量微不足道，但能让你感觉像是在干更多活。

>>109461239

so use quants for all the models, cuck.

所以所有模型都用量化版吧，傻逼。

>>109460999

I feel like dropping a proper NSFW video model is the emergency plan for some labs but all hell will break loose when that happens

我感觉放出一个正经的NSFW视频模型是某些实验室的应急计划，但真到那一步就全乱套了

>>109461186

No one gonna make it for real /tv/ tier stuff.

没人会认真做那种/tv/级别的玩意儿。

PORN is the only future about it

毛片才是这玩意儿唯一的未来

>>109461273

yeah and you can charge your iphone by microwaving it. begone troll.

对啊，你还能用微波炉给iPhone充电呢。滚吧喷子。

>>109460981

Musk's wealth is tied to stocks. He isn't actually the richest billionaire with assets other than his stocks which are in Tesla and Space X. The fact is the chinks can spend more time and relative money in AI and have a near slave population to do the coding and training them. I don't think it really is possible now to be better than chinks unless actual new discoveries can be kept under wraps. Space X being a MIC contractor also means maybe the AI is for that and not for making gens of every Seinfeld episode but even more cringey.

马斯克的财富绑在股票上。他除了特斯拉和Space X的股票之外，并不是真正拥有其他资产的最富亿万富翁。事实是中国佬能投入更多时间和相对多的钱在AI上，还有近乎奴隶般的人口来干编码和训练。我觉得除非真的有新发现能保密不透，否则现在想比中国佬强基本不可能。Space X是军工承包商，也意味着那AI可能是给军工用的，不是用来生成每一集《宋飞正传》但更尬的翻拍版。

>>109461281

>significantly longer than

>明显长于

than 15 seconds

15秒

Goddamn paste cut off the latter half of my post :|

我去，粘贴的时候把帖子后半截给截掉了 :|

>>109460981

He would still be limited by hardware like everyone else.

他还是会像其他人一样受硬件限制。

>>109461281

the thing is that you can extend a continuous shot, you do first frame + last frame, then you start it again and the last frame becomes the new first frame, and so on

关键在于你可以延长连续镜头，先做首帧加尾帧，然后重新开始，尾帧变成新的首帧，以此类推。

>>109461287

>porn

you mean memes and psyops

你是说梗图和心理战吧。

>>109461259

You literally didn't read the documentation at all. r2v can do everything i2v can do, including using an image as frame 1.

你压根没读文档。r2v 能做的 i2v 全能做，包括用图片作首帧。

r2v is just a far more advanced toolkit with significantly more power, particularly if you're using multiple shots. It will also be essential for accurate character voices.

r2v 就是个更高级的工具包，功能强得多，尤其用多镜头的时候。对角色声音精准还原也是必需的。

>>109461274

Not sure why, but the last time I did that it screwed my curve.

不知道为啥，上次我那么干结果把曲线搞歪了。

>>109461285

deadass i am unironically fearing for my dick right now. already i can generate exactly what makes me explode visually but the sound is taking it to the next level. for fuck sake the chinks who released this are legitimately terrorists.

说真的，我现在是真心为自己的兄弟担心了。我已经能生成让我视觉爆炸的内容，现在声音又把它拉高一个层次。我靠，搞出这玩意儿的那帮人简直是恐怖分子。

>>109461299

>r2v is just a far more advanced toolkit with significantly more power

>r2v 就是个功能强得多的高级工具包

I agree, but I feel like they didn't train the r2v model as much as the regular model, you get more artifacts on high speed on the r2v model, I think that was their only mistake, they should have gone for a truly unified model

我同意，但感觉 r2v 模型训练没常规模型那么足，高速下 r2v 模型更容易出伪影，我觉得这是他们唯一失手的地方，应该直接搞个真正的统一模型。

>>109461154

https://streamable.com/hxc7pq

First Last Frame on Ref model still works... I need to study up on movie transition between shots.

参考模型上首尾帧还是能用的……我得研究下电影镜头切换的手法。

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785874898501120.png

>>109461004

It can do Fox Mulder, didn't try Scully because she was already in the source image used but probably would be good anyway. Fox Mulder was older tho without the age being mentioned so maybe that is another thing that has to be taken into account. I would say popular TV shows, well known actors, politicians and anyone really well known is going to be known. But sure maybe there does need to be a list and how good a likeness they are.

它能认出 Fox Mulder，没试 Scully 因为她本来就在源图里，但估计效果也不错。Fox Mulder 看起来老了些，但没提年龄，所以这可能是另一个要考虑的因素。我觉得热门剧集、知名演员、政客和任何真正有名的人都会被认出来。但确实可能得有个列表，看相似度有多高。

>>109460999

>oy vey the goyims shouldn't have the power, only a few companies ruled by actual psychopats can get that

>哎哟喂，外邦人不该有这能力，只有少数几个由真精神病掌控的公司才配。

stfu kike

闭嘴吧死犹太人。

https://files.catbox.moe/fs52om.mp4

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785874985741581.png

>>109461235

Suno, unlike Udio is just bad though. Maybe on some genres it's fine, but it kills the sound quality to an extent that instruments and vocals sound washed. Like a very low bitrate (and I mean somewhere around 192kbps or lower that you find on pirate sites) or lower is the maximum music quality Suno seems capable of. I do like Suno for music that's supposed to sound synthetic and robotic though like vocaloid music https://suno.com/playlist/624cc203-7132-45e1-804d-e2ff3df0eada, though ACEStep XL has caught up now and I can just train a LoRA on Miku and others.

>>109461327

99% based

99% 靠谱。

1% annoyed "theft" becomes "thief"

1% 不爽的是“偷窃”变成“小偷”这种说法。 ╲ 可惜 vidgen 太慢了，没法像图片生成那样狂刷各种结果捡一个没毛病的。

shame vidgen is so slow you can't just spam generations to find the one that doesn't have the issue like you can with imggen

vidgen也太慢了，没法像imggen那样疯狂生成来找出没问题的那个。

>>109461143

z image gens just need a little care and attention with an AI erase tool and they can be good to go ;)

图片生成器只要用 AI 擦除工具稍微修一修，就能直接用了 ;)

>>109461309

>you get more artifacts on high speed on the r2v model,

>r2v 模型在高速下容易出更多伪影。

Can you give an example? Is this only for high-speed scenes? And what quant are you using?

能给个例子吗？这种情况只发生在高速场景吗？还有你用的量化是多少？

>>109461327

i foresee a social media trend where it's just a series of one or more tweet screencaps + 5-10 second clip

我预见到一个社交媒体趋势，就是一堆推文截图加一段 5-10 秒的视频连续刷屏。

holy shit, why does using a reference video make h3 take so fucking long? Do I need to drop the resolution somehow?

卧槽，为什么用参考视频让 h3 花这么久？有没有办法降低分辨率绕过去？

>>109461308

I may be in a similar boat, basically just needs a few tweaks (and hopefully functioning penor and vagene lora since they always looked a bit weird in other models)

我可能也差不多，基本就差点小修小补（希望丁丁和妹妹的 lora 能正常，其他模型里它们总看着有点怪）。

>>109461356

>forsee

Be the trendsetter you dream of

当你想成为的那个潮流领袖吧。

>>109461356

The tweet becomes the clip?

推文变成视频片段？

https://litter.catbox.moe/hsv5g0uuvzuseq8z.mp4

>>>/wsg/6207992

https://files.catbox.moe/xui329.mp4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M08QsofXKVk

sirs what's the jiggle physics status on H3?

各位，H3 的抖动物理效果咋样了？

>>109461378

>have you considered-

>你考虑过-

NO!!

>>109461389

someone said it pretty much does it automatically

有人说它基本是全自动的

附件: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785875459554879.mp4

>>109461308

>the sound is taking it to the next level.

>声音这块是把体验拉到了下一个档次。

not just the sound, everything else is way more natural on H3 than on LTX, especially the skin and expressions

不只是声音，H3上其他一切都要比LTX自然得多，尤其是皮肤和表情

>>109461356

>it's just a series of one or more tweet screencaps + 5-10 second clip

>这不就是一系列推文截图加5-10秒片段嘛

That's basically already what gigaquoting is

那基本就是gigaquoting已经在做的事了

>>109461330

>on Miku

>用在Miku身上

hmm, I do find that a lot of anons that use Suno or AI for music are not really interested in doing anything remotely like music and their excuse normally is that AI should only be used for memes or cover songs. I am the opposite, I find parody, meme and cover songs really cringe, at best I would use an LLM to change the lyrics of a published song to a different subject. What holds AI music back is really just how easy it is to gen things, so the "slop" label will be there even tho it is far superior to the total crap put out by supposed artists today.

嗯，我发现很多用Suno或AI做音乐的匿名用户，其实压根对跟音乐沾边的事没兴趣，他们的借口通常是AI只该用来做梗或翻唱。我正好相反，我觉得恶搞跟翻唱特别尬，最多也就用LLM把已发布歌曲的歌词改成另一个主题。AI音乐真正的瓶颈就在于生成太容易了，所以“产出垃圾”这个标签甩不掉，即便它比现在那些所谓艺术家搞出来的纯屎强太多。

>>109461405

not sure what gigaquoting means

不确定gigaquoting是啥意思

like responding to a post with a gigachad?

是不是拿gigachad图来回帖那种？

>>109461285

>all hell will break loose when that happens

>等真发生的时候那可就乱套了

I feel like H3 is already a big step into that breaking point, when normies will realize that the world won't end because people have a top 5 AI video model locally they won't fall to the fearmogering jewish tricks anymore

我觉得H3已经朝那个临界点迈了一大步，等普通人意识到天不会塌，因为大家本地就有个顶级AI视频模型，他们就不会再上那些犹太佬散布恐慌的当了

>>109461389

Extremely good.

极其牛逼。

https://litter.catbox.moe/d0lo1n28ole81s4a.mp4

附件: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785875766292097.webm

>>109461308

This model can take a single still image and go all the way to my magical realm out of the box.

这模型拿一张静态图就能直接整出我的魔法世界，开箱即用。

Everyone saying "it's not such a big deal stop glazing it" can get fucked.

那些说“没啥大不了别吹了”的都滚一边去。

This can handle situations, action, narrative, and most importantly sound and voice (with reference) that nothing else local could touch

它能处理场景、动作、叙事，最关键的声音和语音（带参考人声）也是本地其他模型碰都碰不了的

And it only gets better from here

而且只会越来越好

any source for actually productive h3 finetune/improvement/etc. discussion? you get like one-off comments here, but not like a coherent continuosu discussion or anything like that.

有没有真正有干货的H3微调/优化之类的讨论源？这里就偶尔蹦几句评论，根本不成体系的持续讨论啥的。

>>109461453

Yes, reddit.

有，Reddit。

https://github.com/seesee75-commits/ComfyUI-MiniMaxH3-Director

oh lord someone done slopped a director node already lmfao

我的天，已经有老哥整了个导演节点出来，笑死我了

i can't keep up with all these bullshit threads

这些破帖子我是真跟不上了

>>109461446

And the best of all? It adheres perfectly to the prompt. It's so good and smooth at following instructions it's insane.

最绝的是啥？它对提示词的理解简直完美。执行指令丝滑到不行，离谱。

>>109461465

>already

when a model is really good, the open source community will be motivated to make it even better, it's a good cycle desu

模型真的够强，开源社区就有动力把它弄得更好，这是个良性循环desu

>>109460735

itx was at the bottom imo.. wan was just barely hanging on

我觉得ITX垫底了...Wan也就勉强撑住

>>109461239

>i believe

>我信

>>109461274

Temp limit is cringe

温度上限这东西是真蛋疼

Just find a tutorial on how to undervolt. It's not only gonna drop your temps but it will perform faster because there's less heat on your gpu so it doesn't get cucked by a temp limit slider

去找个降压教程看吧。不仅温度能降，跑起来还更快，因为显卡热量少了，不会被温度上限滑块卡脖子

>>109461480

I already undervolted my 3090 with that tutorial

我早就按那个教程给我的3090降压了

https://youtu.be/SIlXT32fOMk?t=78

my issue is that setting at 850mv + 1850mhz makes it crash on comfyui, so I had to settle to 1750mhz instead

我的问题是设成850mv加1850mhz在ComfyUI里会崩，只能退到1750mhz

>>109461445

>"DELETE THIS! DE-LETE-THIS!"

-t. MiniMax team

-t. MiniMax团队

>>109461459

oh god please tell me it isnt so... it is truly a wrecked and desolate and corrupt place.

天哪求你别告诉我真是这样...那地方真是破败又荒芜又腐败。

>>109461476

Those director nodes always suck ass

那些导演节点向来都是垃圾

>>109461465

Nice.

>>109461465

>slop

>he thinks his slop generator toy is worth being handcoded

>他还以为他那破AI生成玩具值得手写代码定制

https://xcancel.com/bfl_ai/status/2084693191484469305#m

>Open Weights coming soon.

>开放权重即将发布。

looks like they're not afraid of Minimax at all, or else they cooked something great, or else they're delusional as fuck

看来他们压根没把MiniMax放眼里，要么是搞出了什么大招，要么就是脑子进水了

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785876363494394.png

>>109461411

>What holds AI music back is really just how easy it is to gen things

>阻碍AI音乐发展的其实就是生成东西太容易了

That's true, similar to how it is with images. Musicians and artists alike should see AI gen models as a tool to expand their arsenal, like an extension to the paintbrush. Sure, the hard work of thinking about and composing the music is gone, and you no longer need to be born with immense talent to produce a nice sounding song based on your favorite artists. But that doesn't mean it can't be used to enhance real music production workflows, E.G. putting out more quality songs based on the AI outputs (which is the reason record labels and trying to hoard and license the tech, but that's impossible with local). In the end, AI music and its tech will prevail, even if songs won't be fully composed by AI.

确实，跟图像一个道理。音乐人和画家都应该把AI生成模型当成扩充自己武器库的工具，就像画笔的延伸。当然，构思和作曲的苦功没了，你也不用天生就有天赋才能靠喜欢的艺术家风格做出好听的歌。但这不代表它不能用来提升真正的音乐制作流程，比如基于AI输出做出更多高质量作品（这也是唱片公司疯狂囤积和授权技术的原因，但本地版就没这问题）。说到底，AI音乐和技术终将胜出，哪怕歌曲不会完全由AI创作。

>>109461527

competition breeds innovation

竞争催生创新

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785876426517443.png

>>109461527

They already cooked, you think they'll throw it all away because a better model released?

他们已经搞出来了，你觉得会因为有更好的模型发布就把成果扔了？

>>109461527

they announced this ages ago, nothing's changed for them

这他们老早就宣布了，对他们来说什么都没变

the reception might change things, but that's out of their hands

反响可能会改变局势，但这不是他们能控制的

>>109461541

>they announced this ages ago

>他们老早就宣布了

they weren't obligated to signal that again on that new post, they could have just said nothing about the open weight model release "date", they actually want us to focus on that

那条新帖里他们没必要再提一遍，完全可以对开放权重发布时间闭口不提，他们就是故意想让我们关注这个

>>109461527

idk why so many anons desperately WANT it to suck ass.

不知道为啥这么多匿名用户拼命盼着它翻车。

wouldn't getting two good open source video models be better than one?

有两个好的开源视频模型不比只有一个强？

>>109461559

two cakes???

两份蛋糕？？？

can someone simply answer this horny-ass gooner's really really important question:

有没有人能直接回答这个精虫上脑的老哥这个非常非常重要的问题：

has anyone figured out how to make h3 gen perfect pussies and penises?

有人搞明白怎么用h3生成完美的小穴和丁丁了吗？

https://huggingface.co/Juzo213/Krea2_potty

>we must make k2 relevant again

>我们必须让k2重新火起来

>>109461559

if it's distilled then that's a plus, but it'll be the only plus

如果蒸馏过那算个加分项，但也就只有这一个加分项

>>109461559

>idk why so many anons desperately WANT it to suck ass.

>不知道为啥这么多匿名用户拼命盼着它翻车。

I don't want it to suck ass, Flux 3 feels like a genuine replacement of sora 2, but let's be real, flux 3 dev won't even be close to that

我不想让它翻车，Flux 3感觉真的能替代sora 2，但说实话，Flux 3 dev版根本不可能接近那个水平

>>109461559

>idk why so many anons desperately WANT it to suck ass.

>不知道为啥这么多匿名用户拼命盼着它翻车。

H3 shifted the overton window. from now on, anyone who cucks their models will just get zero attention

H3把整个讨论的底线给抬高了。从现在起，谁再阉割自己的模型，谁就没人搭理

>>109461575

No since it's been 2 days since it came out but try using reference images

不至于，才出两天，不过试试用参考图吧

>>109461584

they'll give the "dev" version, and dev is always a guidance distilled model, like Minimax actually

他们会给"dev"版，dev版向来都是蒸馏引导模型，跟MiniMax其实一样

>>109461575

use reference images of naked people I guess

用裸体参考图呗，我猜的

>>109461559

Because BFL has in the past been a real drag for the local scene and lost a lot of good will with their censorship bias. Some people will take that as a personal attack and want the company to fail because of it.

因为BFL以前对本地社区一直是拖后腿的存在，加上审查偏向，败光了很多人缘。有些人把这当成个人恩怨，就想看这公司倒台。

(无正文)

附件: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785876900040062.webm

>>109461581

That's yours huh

那是你的吧

>>109461591

alright alright thanks man, i didnt realize i was being too hesitant. how long do you think it is appropriate to wait for the pussyasscockballs loras? Will it takes like days or hours in this case, given the nature of h3?

行行行谢了老哥，我都没意识到自己太犹豫了。你觉得等这些色色lora多久合适？按h3的情况，是要等几天还是几小时？

>>109461446

its insane, it gets so much shit right without having to specify it

简直了，不用特意说明，它就能答对那么多东西。

this is the SD1.5 moment of video gen

这就是视频生成的SD1.5时刻

>>109461527

When they release it, the "safety" will be one of their selling points. It's not unreasonable; they're more interested in licensing to businesses, aren't they?

他们发布的时候，“安全”会是卖点之一。这也不是没道理；他们更想授权给企业用，对吧？

>>109461559

My SSD is full

我的固态硬盘满了

>>109461588

this

>>109461615

kek no i'm just a leech

哈哈不，我就是个白嫖党

>>109461527

be honest with me, what are it's chances of being even half as good as minimax?

跟我说实话，它达到minimax一半水平的几率有多大？

will it at least surpass wan2.2?

至少能超过wan2.2吗？

>>109461641

Yeah, it'll be a SD3 moment

会，这会是个SD3时刻

>>109461530

what I find amazing is the whole music industry still operates in a vacuum despite using highly produced recording techniques for years, the autotuning, none of it is really recording in one take anymore and the music is heavily edited. AI can edit songs easily now replacing any section, replacing instruments, the instruments themselves are like they are on any recoding studio 16-32 etc track. And it is obvious that they will be using AI in many respects even for song writing. They can of course still appear as if they are doing it "the old way" but it's all a façade. What they won't do of course is release anything that is good because that era of good music lapsed years ago. Ironic that people even locally can gen whatever music they want.

我觉得最神奇的是，整个音乐行业虽然在录音技术高度加工的环境里混了这么多年，自动调音那些，早就不是一遍录到底了，音乐被重度剪辑。AI现在能轻松编辑歌曲，替换任意段落、替换乐器，乐器本身就跟你那16到32轨的录音室没啥区别。而且很明显他们在很多方面都会用AI，连写歌也是。当然他们还能装得像是在“老办法”干活，但那全是幌子。他们当然不会放出什么好东西，因为好音乐的时代几年前就过去了。讽刺的是，连普通人现在都能随便生成自己想要的音乐。

>>109461618

Minimax currently are taking down NSFW loras that are hosted in the usual places so may take a few weeks for the decent ones to sneak by, but perhaps someone will find a way to use references in a way that will give the same effect

Minimax现在正在下架那些在常规站点托管的NSFW loras，所以好用的那些可能得等几个星期才能偷偷溜过去，但也许有人能想办法用引用方式达到同样效果

>>109461641

>be honest with me, what are it's chances of being even half as good as minimax?

>跟我说实话，它达到minimax一半水平的几率有多大？

I'm pretty sure it'll be competitive, the BFL fags aren't that retarded they know Minimax exists now... or else they have a humiliation fetish and want to be clowned again like on that Flux 2 dev VS ZiT momement

我挺确定它会很有竞争力，BFL那帮家伙没那么蠢，他们知道minimax现在存在……不然他们就是有受辱癖，想再像Flux 2 dev对阵Zit那会儿一样被当小丑耍

>>109461641

>Censored by german keks

>被德国佬审查了

>Better than Wan2.2

>比Wan2.2强

lol, lmao even

lol，甚至 lmao

12 steps

12步

14 seconds

14秒

Not bad i guess. boots kinda wrong but i blame my prompt. I still need a better workflow.

还行吧。靴子有点不对劲，但我怪我的提示词。我还得搞个更好的工作流。

Speedup Lora when ??

加速Lora啥时候出？？

附件: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785877247271697.webm

>>109461656

Just upload them on catbox. They just don't want a bad advertisment

直接传catbox呗。他们就是不想有坏广告

>>109461641

Really fucking low

低到爆

They are really fucking arrogant and opinionated

他们真是又傲慢又自以为是

>>109461641

bfl is known for literally breaking their models on purpose before release. if you have any faith in them at this point then you're kinda retarded

bfl有名的是发布前故意把模型搞烂。到这个点你还信他们的话，那你脑子有点问题

>>109461641

it'll have a use I'm sure of that, I'll be getting it, maybe not on day 1 if it's coming soon but eventually

肯定有用，这点我确定，我会搞来用，不一定是发布当天如果很快的话，但迟早的事

>>109461653

they also pretty much lost any argument against AI the second they started using autotune

他们从开始用自动调音那刻起，就基本输了跟AI的任何争论

arguably they lost it as soon as "wall of sound" became a thing

可以说他们从“声墙”那玩意儿流行起来就输了

>>109461641

>EU

they will never allow them to release a based model, so the chances are pretty slim

他们永远不会让基础模型放出来，所以几率很小

>>109461527

>>109461641

>>109461658

>it's kraut

>是德国佬做的

jesus christ abort, those people are mentally ill about copyright and protecting people's identity. You WILL get your house raided and your electronics seized if you call a politician a dick on twitter in germany

我的天赶紧跑，那帮人对版权和保护个人身份有病态执念。在德国你要是敢在推特上骂某个政客是混蛋，真会有人来抄你家、没收你电子设备的

>280/38

china officially killed 1girls

中国正式干掉了1girls

>>109461690

>>280/38

What does this refer to?

这指的是什么？

>>109461527

>looks like they're not afraid of Minimax at all, or else they cooked something great, or else they're delusional as fuck

>看起来他们根本不怕Minimax，要么是搞出了什么牛逼的东西，要么就是纯纯的脑子有病

Why would they be afraid anon? Have you seen what Flux 3 can do?

为什么要怕啊老哥？你见过Flux 3能干什么吗？

https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/1v4gpka/comment/ozas8h9/

https://xcancel.com/mxvdxn/status/2081801246474904031#m

Minimax is genuinely slopped to hell compared to that, not to mention the Flux 3 founders said from the start that dev will be good

Minimax跟那个一比真是烂到地心了，更别提Flux 3的创始人们从一开始就说了开发版会很好用

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785877559680182.png

>>109461693

postcount imagecount

发帖数 图片数

>>109461608

Prompt ?

提示词？

>>109461693

goofy ass nigga

傻逼玩意儿

>>109461658

This is the obvious reason why BFL is worthless, they censor their models to shit, and actively poison their data set to make it as hard as possible to finetune for NSFW

这就是BFL不值钱的明摆原因，他们把模型阉割成屎，还故意往数据集里下毒，让NSFW微调难上加难

The 'community' is simply circumventing them, even if we entertain the idea that Flux 3 would be better than Minimax (protip:it won't be), it's still going to be useless beyond the censorship sandbox they set up

“社区”不过是在绕过他们而已，就算咱们姑且信Flux 3能比Minimax强（小道消息：不可能的），它照样困在他们设的审查沙盒里废物一个

We now have Krea 2 which allows for anything to be made as an image when coupling it with loras, and Minimax which can make uncensored videos out of those images, and obviously NSFW loras for Minimax will spread like wildfire no matter if Civitai are allowed to host them or not.

现在有Krea 2，搭配loras能生成任何图像，还有Minimax能用这些图像做出无审查的视频，显然Minimax的NSFW loras会像野火一样传开，不管Civitai让不让挂都拦不住

>>109461694

>Minimax is genuinely slopped to hell compared to that, not to mention the Flux 3 founders said from the start that dev will be good

>Minimax跟那个一比真是烂到地心了，更别提Flux 3的创始人们从一开始就说了开发版会很好用

Yeah I'm sure it'll paint sota landscapes

是啊，我信它能画出一流的风景画

>>109461694

>Have you seen what Flux 3 can do?

>你见过Flux 3能干什么吗？

that's flux 3 max, flux 3 dev won't be that

那是Flux 3 max，Flux 3 dev不会那么强

>>109461694

it should be illegal to bait like this

这么钓鱼应该判刑

this is so good and so fast i can literally use it to shitpost in close to real time on 4chan instead of writing a reply with an optional image

这玩意儿又好又快，我都能用它直接在4chan上实时发梗图，都不用打字回帖再配图了

>HAVE YOU SEEN WHAT FLUX API CAN DO??? ITS INSANE!!!

every single time

每次都这样

>>109461527

yawn

>>109461694

>Flux 3 founders said from the start that dev will be good

>Flux 3创始人们从一开始就说了开发版会很好用

what do you expect them to say? that their own model will suck ass?

不然你想让他们说啥？说我自己的模型是坨屎？

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785877701879305.png

>>109461669

I can understand their argument about being an artis, being able to play live, sing whereas someone genning arguably better music probably won't be able to do that. But I wonder, if people "own" the music they gen and actually did go out and play live as say a band or solo how that would work? Then the live appearances, the recordings of that would be it's own thing. As for video and image genning then they are visual and really if they can stand on their own merits I don't really know how anyone really cares if it is AI - people really don't care about how something was made and just the content. AI actors would be the first test, animated already shows you don't need irl people for commercial success.

我能理解他们作为艺术家的论点——能现场演奏、唱歌，而一个人生成的音乐可能更好但大概做不到现场演。但我就好奇，如果人们“拥有”自己生成的音乐，然后真组个乐队或单人出去现场演，那会怎么搞？那现场演出、那些录音本身就成了自己的东西。至于视频和图像生成，那都是视觉的东西，说实话只要作品能站得住脚，我真不知道谁还在乎是不是AI——人们根本不在乎东西怎么做的，只看内容本身。AI演员会是第一道考验，动画早就证明了不需要真人也能商业成功。

>>109461608

>>109461696

fuck off pedo

滚开恋童癖

>>109461690

it takes nearly 2 orders of magnitude more time to generate a video than an image AND you usually have to upload to catbox/wsg and link it

生成视频比生成图像要多花将近两个数量级的时间，而且你还得传到catbox/wsg再贴链接

AND there's a huge new release for local (this is arguably the biggest release since SD1.5)

而且还有个本地版大更新（这可以说是SD1.5以来最大的发布）

are you really surprised post rate is down

你还好意思惊讶发帖率下降？

>>109461259

I created the first minute for a movie based on a script I wrote. I fed the prompting documents to Claude, I already had some of the characters references and storyboard images and asked Claude to create prompts for each sequence. I put it together in under two hours, it's not perfect but I don't have any doubts: you can create your movies with Minimax and References are what will make it work. I2V gives more control but the amount of work involved is much greater.

我根据自己写的剧本，给一部电影做了第一分钟。我把提示文档喂给Claude，我手里已经有一些角色参考和分镜图，让Claude为每个镜头生成提示词。不到两小时我就拼完了，不算完美但我毫不怀疑：用Minimax你能做自己的电影，参考图才是关键。I2V控制力更强但工作量要大得多。

>>109461737

seriously.. kys pedo

说真的……去死吧，恋童癖。

>>109461527

the draft mode thing sounds interesting, maybe there is hope for vramlets after all

草稿模式听起来挺有意思，也许小显存党还有救。

>>109461694

Wake me up when they respect the community and actually optimize shit instead of waiting for us to do it only for other companies to show us respect out the gate.

等他们尊重社区、真正优化东西，而不是等我们替他们干活，之后别的公司一出来就给我们面子的时候，再叫醒我吧。

I don't care about a company that repeats the sins of it's parent company

我懒得鸟一个重蹈母公司覆辙的公司。

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785877841062792.jpg

>>109461737

Anime website. Kill yourself.

动漫网站。自杀去吧。

>>109460446

How to use LLM to enhance prompt ?

怎么用LLM来优化提示词？

What model i should download ?

我该下哪个模型？

I have zero knowledge about this. I just manually prompting all the time and praying for my stuff works

我对这个一窍不通。我一直全靠手写提示词然后祈祷东西能跑通。

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785877864413266.jpg

>>109461694

lel

This is from the API version, and it's not even beyond anything I've seen from Minimax, we'll be getting the lower quality dev version

这是API版的，而且也没比我见过的Minimax强到哪去，我们拿到的会是低配开发版。

But hey, the CEO says he is enthusiastic about a model his company is about to release...

但话说回来，CEO说他对自己公司即将发布的模型很兴奋……

is sage attention 3 usable on 40 series cards or is it for 50 series only?

sage attention 3能用在上代40系显卡上吗，还是只支持50系？

>>109461737

>fuck off pedo

>滚，恋童癖

t. incel angry he didn't get laid in high school and has no happy memories of it, so no one else should

署名：一个无能狂怒的处男，高中没艹到妞也没什么美好回忆，所以别人也别想有。

>>109461728

>>109461721

>>109461716

It'll be way better than H3 (which is not even HappyHorse 1.0 tier) and at least as good as Seedance. Count on it.

它绝对比H3强（H3连HappyHorse 1.0的水平都够不着），至少跟Seedance一个档次。等着瞧。

>>109461754

Very valuable insight. Thank you for posting this.

很有价值的见解。感谢分享。

>>109461759

holy esl

卧槽这英语水平。

>>109461694

okay, lets see some flux 3 gens. surely someone is using their api and then we can compare it to h3

行吧，来看看flux 3的生成效果。肯定有人在用他们的API吧，然后我们可以跟h3对比一下。

>check other diffusion threads across /e/, /vg/, also /adt/

>去看看 /e/、/vg/ 还有 /adt/ 版的其他diffusion帖子

>barely any usage of minimax. zero mentions on /e/

>Minimax几乎没人用。/e/ 版零提及

What the fuck is wrong with the other diffusion threads on 4chan? how are they slacking this far behind?

4chan上其他diffusion帖到底怎么回事？怎么落后这么远？ ⁠⟧ 可我本来就不是英语母语啊？ ⁠⟧ 做小动画还行，不算差。 ⁠⟧ 我一直在在这发帖而不是去/adt/。 ⁠⟧ 大家都在等turbo版和优化。 ⁠⟧ 我觉得没必要用3弃用2.2。据我所知没那么好。 ⁠⟧ 如果BFL不是奔着革命去的，他们就不会发布Flux.1 dev，那玩意儿比Ideogram强（当时唯一开源图像和文本的大型API玩家）。BFL百分百会把Seedance级别的模型普及化，哪怕上面加了安全限制。H3说白了就是个转移注意力的东西。 ⁠⟧ 哦明白了，ani在/adt/又活跃了，这解释了很多。 ⁠⟧ 不，如果他们真在乎，至少还会讨论一下。/e/ 版压根不知道这玩意儿的存在，他们忙着撕逼呢。连 /b/ 帖都有过一些讨论。 ⁠⟧ /wsg/ 上有不少Minimax视频。

>>109461778

I am ESL though ?

虽然我是ESL（英语作为第二语言）？

Not too bad for small animations

做小动画还挺不错的。

附件: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785878051999797.mp4

>>109461787

ive been posting here instead of /adt/

我一直在 /adt/ 发帖，而不是这儿。

>>109461787

People are waiting for turbo and optimizations.

大家都在等turbo和优化。

>>109461769

I don't think there's any reason to use 3 over 2.2. afaik it's not that good.

我觉得没啥理由非要用3不用2.2。据我所知，3没那么好用。

>>109461767

If BFL weren't about revolution they wouldn't have released Flux.1 dev which was better than Ideogram (the only big API player with open source image and text at the time). BFL will 100% democratize a model as good as Seedance, even if they put safety on top of it. H3 is more or less a distraction.

要是BFL不想搞革命，他们就不会放出Flux.1 dev了，那玩意儿当时比Ideogram（当时唯一一个开源图片和文本的大API玩家）还强。BFL百分之百会把跟Seedance同等水平的模型普及开来，就算他们加了安全限制也一样。H3说到底就是个幌子。

>>109461787

oh i see ani is active again in /adt/, that explains a lot

噢我懂了，ani又在/adt/里活跃了，那就能解释很多事了

>>109461794

No, if they were they'd still at least be discussing it. /e/ deadass doesn't even know it exists they're too busy with their drama. even the /b/ thread had some discussion.

不，如果他们真在乎，至少还在讨论。 /e/ 这帮人压根不知道有这事，忙着撕逼呢。连 /b/ 的帖子都有讨论几句。

>>109461787

there's a lot of minimax videos on /wsg/

/wsg/上面有一堆minimax视频。

>>109461787

Just a theory but other boards are more likely to be filled with turdies that have dogshit PCs and no money to pay for API subscriptions.

纯属猜测，但其他版块更容易被一群垃圾电脑、连API订阅费都掏不起的穷鬼填满。

she was supposed to adjust her skirt down, not up... Also the unprompted areola lmao

她本该把裙子往下拉，不是往上掀……还有那没预警的露点，笑死我了

https://files.catbox.moe/0umhuc.mp4

>>109461816

What do you mean?

你什么意思？

>4080

>32GB RAM

>8s video

>8秒视频

>0.5mp

>easycache

>4m41s generation (3m38s with sage)

>生成耗时4分41秒（开sage后3分38秒）

>spectrum node instead of easycache

>用spectrum节点而不是easycache

>6m19s (4m41s with sage)

>6分19秒（开sage后4分41秒）

am I in the right ballpark with this?

我这么估算靠谱吗？

>>109461799

quality shitpost

高质量烂帖

>>109461825

>white/yellow boy who tries to talk black using outdated slang

>一个白/黄皮小子试图用过时俚语装黑人

That's a Jewish man from Brooklyn you're responding to.

你回复的那人是布鲁克林的犹太人。

Can Minimax do TEXT well ?

Minimax处理文字行不行？

>>109461831

You should try with the native workflow + latest comfy and dependencies for a proper baseline

你应该试试原生工作流加最新版comfy和依赖，才能拿到像样的基准数据

>>109461821

too good way too good

太强了，强得离谱

Looking back on that faithful day on June 2025...

回望2025年6月那个命运之日……

yep, back then I was waiting for dram to come down in price a bit, checking the bargain listings every day. Eventually a sale went up of 2x32gb 6000MHz hynix die corsair ram went up for about $230USD, so I just went fuck it and bought. Very shortly thereafter, the price for that exact ram spiked to 6x the price.

是啊，那时候我等着内存降价，天天刷二手列表。后来看到一组2x32GB 6000MHz海力士颗粒的贼船内存挂230美元，我直接心想算了买吧。没过多久，同款内存价格直接飙到6倍。

Fast forward to today, the only reason I can run Minimax H3 today is because I bought that ram, giving me just enough to fit all the models across vram+ram. Would've been stuffed if I was still stuck on 32GB...

时间快进到今天，我能跑Minimax H3全靠当时买了那组内存，刚好够把模型全塞进显存加内存里。要是还卡在32GB我早就歇菜了……

Man, I feel really bad for the people who didn't upgrade back then.

唉，真替那些当时没升级的人感到可惜。

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785878597964231.png

>>109461846

yes it can do TEXT well, any text, any style, anywhere

是的，文字处理很强，任何文字、任何风格、任何位置都能搞定

>>109461874

I have my spare 32gb of ram lying around so if im desperate i can use it to avoid OOM

我手头有条闲置的32gb内存，真急了可以拿来防止OOM

64 + 32 = 96 + 16 = 112gb !

>>109461874

RAM doesn't really make a difference, just get a good GPU

内存其实没啥区别，搞块好显卡就行了

>>109461846

it's really great at text, it really doesn't have any big weaknesses, such a solid model >>>/wsg/6207387

文字方面真的强，基本上没什么大短板，这模型太稳了 >>>/wsg/6207387

>>109461891

>RAM doesn't really make a difference,

>内存其实没啥区别，

It does. When i gen with LTX with 32gb of ram i got OOM all the time

有区别的。我用32gb内存跑LTX的时候，动不动就OOM

FRESH

>>109461903

>>109461903

>>109461903

>>109461905

You're so fucking pathetic

你他妈也太可悲了

No matter my res or video length, my h3 gens are extremely slow... I'm on 3090 and 64gb ram. For some reason, stuff like spectrum node or sageattention doesn't affect my speed at all. I checked the installation, and everything is fine

不管分辨率还是视频长度，我的h3生成都慢得要死……我是3090加64gb内存。搞不懂为啥spectrum节点或者sageattention对速度一点影响都没有。我检查过安装了，一切正常

>>109461891

Wrong, it makes a huge difference for one simple reason: avoiding OOM errors.

错，区别大了去了，原因很简单：避免OOM报错。

I was genning on wan2.1 with 16gb vram and 32gb dram and was getting OOM constantly, increasing in likelihood depending on how long comfyui has been running. Then went to 64gb dram and suddenly no more oom.

我之前用16gb显存加32gb内存跑wan2.1，老是OOM，comfyui跑得越久概率越高。后来换到64gb内存，突然就不OOM了。

>>109461895

kek

>>109461918

Are you utilizing your VRAM fully and not being stuck on RAM swapping? Try --vram-headroom 2 or 1.

你确认显存用满了吗？别卡在内存交换上。试试 --vram-headroom 2 或 1。

>>109461905

Kill yourself.

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>>109461846

附件: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785879084898873.webm

>>109461847

that's what I'm on, without easycache/spectrum/sage I'm getting 8m5s

我就在用这个，不开easycache/spectrum/sage时是8分5秒

forgot to mention it's I2V, not ref

忘了说这是I2V，不是ref

>>109461933

this how it looks like. I use the --vram-headroom 1 already

就是这样。我已经用了--vram-headroom 1

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/g/1785879157118388.jpg

>>109461952

I got the same shit it's not even close on using my whole vram space even though it's using way more than 24gb of vram in reality

我也一样，显存压根没用满，但实际占用远超24gb

anyone know how to get consistent character swaps with the h3 ref2va model? right now it only works about 1 in every 10 tries

有人知道怎么用h3 ref2va模型稳定换角色吗？现在大概十次才成功一次

>>109461952

Yep, something is causing RAM swap. The model is 21GB by itself. Not fully loaded. Try --disable-pinned-memory and make sure you have --use-sage-attention

对，确实有东西在导致内存交换。模型本身就有21GB，还没完全加载。试试加 `--disable-pinned-memory`，同时确保你用了 `--use-sage-attention`

>>109461977

sure, but the problem is that it even goes to my pagefile for whatever reason...

行吧，但问题是它连页面文件都会用到，鬼知道怎么回事……

When are we getting the real thread?

真正的帖子啥时候才来？

>>109462023

when someone bakes it

等有人烤出来呗

>>109462023

be the change you want to see anon

想看到改变，就自己动手啊，老哥

>>109462023

its here

就在这里

>>109461903

>>109461903

>>109461731

>I can understand their argument about being an artis, being able to play live, sing whereas someone genning arguably better music probably won't be able to do that.

>我能理解他们说的艺术家论点，能现场演奏、唱歌，而用AI生成所谓更好音乐的人大概做不到这点。

Even live music sounds way better than digitally produced and professionally mastered songs put out. Like the live music has so much soul, whereas the produced songs sound like slop.

就连现场音乐听起来都比数字制作加专业混音的歌强多了。现场演奏满是灵魂，而那些制作出来的歌听起来就是坨屎。

ZUTOMAYO's music is good, but https://music.apple.com/us/album/midnight-forever-expo-meik%C5%8D-wa-gunaruga-gotoshi-live/1840129493

is genuinely the best album she has ever put out, and the best versions of every song she has. Listen to this full song youtube.com/watch?v=DpiWOGjL3gc

这绝对是她出过最好的专辑，也是她每首歌最好的版本。听完整版：youtube.com/watch?v=DpiWOGjL3gc

Good live performances from anyone who has actual talent shows who is still making real music vs. those who don't.

有真本事的人的优秀现场演出，能看出谁还在搞真音乐，谁只是在混。

I figured out how to prompt pussy in minimax.

我搞明白怎么在minimax里prompt出逼逼了。

>>109462033

>schizobake

he said real thread "anon"

他说的是“真帖子”，“匿名哥”

>>109462036

Just use your face as a reference

直接用你脸当参考图就行

>>109462036

>show me a mirror

>给我照照镜子

>>109462033

remember what to do to this thread anons

伙计们，记得对这帖子该干什么

>>109460446

you guys should try to tell minimax to do something with pictures of yourself, the result is pretty uncany and creepy lmao.

你们该试试让minimax拿你自己的照片搞点东西，结果贼诡异又膈应，哈哈。

>>109461905

would you just fuck off already

你能不能给爷爬？

>>109462033

terminally online schizo fuck

网瘾晚期精神分裂的傻逼

>>109461816

other boards haven't gotten tired of the same low parameter slop yet that's only capable of the most simple stuff

其他版块还没腻那些低参数量垃圾模型，只会干点最简单的事

there's people still using xl tunes to this day

至今还有人用xl音色调校

>>109460981

elon musk is a pussy who cant actually provide the absolute godtier open source models to save his life

马斯克就是个软蛋，连他妈的顶级开源模型都拿不出来，死活不行