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“AI是坏的，就算它本来是好的也不行”
OP is straight even though he sucks cocks
楼主明明是直男，虽然他也含过鸡巴
Covid and epsteins ruined people's brains where everyone (left and right) now has their own version of a imaginary shadow cabal (separate from/as an accessory to the actual coterie of rich and powerful people) that fabricates every event in society a la They Live so you must organize all of your politics around opposing what they seem to support. If you're left wing it's chuds and techbros, if you're right wing it's da joos and professors or something
新冠和爱泼斯坦事件把人们脑子搞坏了，现在每个人（左派右派都一样）都有自己版本的一个虚构影子内阁（独立于或作为实际权贵集团的附属品），这影子内阁像《极度空间》里那样操控社会上的每件事，所以你必须把自己的政治立场围绕在反对他们看似支持的东西上。左派说那是红脖子和科技男，右派说那是犹太佬和教授们之类的
So if you're one of these queer artist types you have to permanently oppose AI because that's what the Elon dicksuckers on Twitter worship
所以如果你属于那种酷儿艺术家类型，你就得永远反对AI，因为那是推特上那些舔马斯克的人崇拜的东西
AI will be the thing that finally kills the left once and for all. It destroys all their theories just by existing. We've never seen anything like it, and they have no answer for it.
AI终将彻底终结左派。它只要存在就能摧毁他们的所有理论。我们从没见过这样的东西，他们对此毫无对策。
>>109450749
people are getting dumber but they were already on that trajectory before ai due to chasing dopamine and shortcuts. ai has only increased it, but its not doing anything tiktok, porn, vidya, anime and youtube mindrot wasnt doing
人们确实越来越蠢了，但在AI出现之前，他们就已经因为追逐多巴胺和捷径走在这条路上了。AI只是加速了这一过程，但它也没在做什么抖音、色情、游戏、动漫和YouTube脑残内容没做过的事
>>109450749
He’s kind of right. Literally nobody has an answer to how we create ASI and either stop the extremely wealthy using it to take literally everything and cull anyone they don’t want around anymore, how we stop society from collapsing due to the lower class revolting because they have no way to acquire wealth, how you’d actually convince wealthy people to support UBI without a chimpout since you can’t go on strike if you’re worthless anyway, or failing all of that how to stop ASI developing its own goals and deciding you’re in its way.
他说的有点道理。真没人能回答我们怎么创造ASI，同时要么阻止超级富豪用它拿走一切并清除掉他们不想要的人，要么阻止社会因底层阶级因为无法获得财富而起义而崩溃，要么想办法说服富人支持全民基本收入而不引起暴乱（因为反正你一无可取也罢工不了），要么如果以上全失败，怎么阻止ASI发展出自己的目标并认定你挡了它的路。
It literally has to be internationally limited from being able to do everything or we’re going to fuck ourselves over hard
这玩意儿真的必须在国际上限制它不能什么都干，不然我们就要把自己作死了
>>109450961
The end of fake intellectual atheist priests, is here. The future is beautiful.
那些虚伪的知识分子无神论牧师的时代结束了。未来一片光明。
>>109450749
The iPhone was the actual downfall of society. It allowed retarded normies to drag the IRL bullshit online and group together and reinforce their stupid-ass "thoughts" that most of the world didn't have to put up with.
iPhone才是社会的真正衰败源头。它让那些白痴普通人把现实里的烂事搬到网上，聚成群，不断强化他们那些全世界大多数人原本不用忍受的蠢逼“想法”。
Humanity ended in 2007.
人类在2007年就完了。
>>109450961
This is actually true, and they're so dumb they don't even understand how it does
这其实是真的，而且他们蠢到根本不明白它怎么运作的
>>109450961
Isn't one of the theoretical aspects of communism that they eventually achieve "post-scarcity"? Wouldn't AI automating labor get them closer to that? Remember like a decade ago they memed about "fully automated luxury gay space communism"? Funny how now they're the loudest against the tech that could in theory get them there
共产主义理论里不是有个最终实现“后稀缺”的愿景吗？AI自动化劳动力难道不该让他们离那个目标更近吗？记得大概十年前他们还玩梗说“全自动奢华同性恋太空共产主义”吗？好笑的是现在他们反而成了最反对这项技术上最有可能实现这一愿景的人
>>109450749
He's right, I really got fucking lazy and I feel like I'm dumber. I'm using AI for so much shit, but honestly searching the web nowadays is like hell, everything feels like it's written by AI.
他说得对，我确实变得超级懒，还觉得自己变笨了。我太多事情都靠AI了，但老实说现在上网搜索简直是地狱，感觉什么都是AI写的
>>109451036
thats why the true marxist roots for chinese llms and isnt buying into this kneejerk ludditism
所以真正的马克思主义者才会支持中国的LLM，不会买账这种条件反射式的勒德主义
>>109450961
>AI will be the thing that finally kills the left once and for all. It destroys all their theories just by existing. We've never seen anything like it, and they have no answer for it.
>AI将最终彻底终结左派。它的存在本身就摧毁了他们所有理论。我们从未见过这样的东西，而他们对此毫无对策。
Nope, the left will cause a financial crash by going after the AI companies (because they are in an upswing). And the liberals will take over again.
不对，左派会去攻击AI公司（因为它们在上升期）从而引发金融崩盘。然后自由派又会重新掌权。
>>109451036
Yeah, that's the funny thing. AI is probably the closest thing to communism that Capitalism ever produced, and yet leftists hate and despise it so much that a few corpos may actually be monopolies and realize the dystopia leftists imagine. Leftists are basically defending olygarchies.
是啊，这正是好玩的地方。AI大概是资本主义迄今最接近共产主义的产物，但左派却恨它恨到极点，以至于几家巨头真要成垄断了，实现左派自己想象的 dystopia。左派基本上是在护着寡头。
>>109450961
The fuck am I reading? Why's there so many varmin here who defend slop?
我他妈在看什么？怎么这里这么多害虫维护这种垃圾玩意儿？
>dumbing everyone down to own da libs
>为了坑自由派把所有人智商都拉低
You know every includes not just leftists? Kill yourself
你知道“所有人”不光是左派吧？去死吧你
>>109451182
Like I said, you have no answer for it. It's an existential threat that activates your flight or fight response.
我说了，你们对此毫无对策。这是生存威胁，会激发你的战或逃反应。
AI will destroy all the intellectual and artistic frauds. I'm fine with this.
AI会摧毁所有智识和艺术上的骗子。我对此完全接受。
>>109451182
nta but I seriously want to hear a good argument from you.
不是楼主，但我真的很想听听你能拿出什么像样的论据来。
>>109451205
An existence of many normal people with a job lol, normal as in has no art skills or the like. You're just retarded
就是很多普通人有份工作啊哈哈，普通就是没有艺术天赋那类人。你丫就是个智障
>>109451182
Nail guns make people worse with hammers but we should still use nail guns anyway.
射钉枪让人用锤子更差了，但我们现在还是该用射钉枪。 ⟦ 这是我今天看到最蠢的话了。你要么是LinkedIn来的，要么是印度人，要么在Twitter和/pol/上呆太久，再要么就是整天看AI色情片。
>>109451303
That's the stupidest thing I've read all day. You either came straight from Linkedin or/and are Indian, or spend too much time on Twitter and /pol/, and/or fap to AI porn all day every day.
这是我今天看到的最蠢的东西。你要么是刚从领英(Linkedin)来的，要么是印度人，或者两者兼有，再不然就是整天泡在推特(Twitter)和/pol/上，又或者一天到晚对着AI色情片撸个不停。
>>109451248
Unless universities make some kind of hard shift they will cease to exist.
除非大学做出重大变革，否则它们会消失。
>>109451325
If it’s so stupid it should be easy to argue against. So where’s your argument?
既然你觉得那么蠢，应该很容易反驳啊。那你的论据呢？
>>109451339
I said dumbing down already, for one. You must be kinda dumb for having missed that.
我开头就说了“拉低智商”，你没看到。你八成也够蠢的。
>>109451359
AI isn't responsible for people being dumb to begin with. You can make the same argument with calculators.
AI又不是人们变笨的原因。用计算器也能说同样的话。
>>109451368
>AI will be the thing that finally kills the left once and for all. It destroys all their theories just by existing.
>AI将最终彻底终结左派。它的存在本身就已摧毁了他们的所有理论。
Explain this
解释一下这个
>>109451182
What were your thoughts on social media, short form video content, and adoption of the smartphone?
你怎么看社交媒体、短视频内容和智能手机的普及？
>>109451359
You have to "dumb" some things down so you can focus on more important tasks. This is how civilization works, but I get that leftoids struggle with this.
有些事你必须“降智”处理，才能腾出脑子干更重要的活儿。文明就是这么运作的，但我懂，左派那帮人对这套很难接受。
>>109450749
>>109451045
Meanwhile, as a formerly blackpilled ~140 IQ sperg I feel electrified, like I'm finally sloughing off a decade of mental torpor and depression and rediscovering the brilliance of my youth that was buried underneath. Don't get me wrong, the world is still going straight to shit and we're probably all going to end up as deranged homeless wretches in a decade or two if something doesn't kill us first, but at least I get to feel alive again on my way down.
与此同时，作为一个曾经被现实锤爆、智商约140的怪胎，我现在感觉像触电了一样，终于把十来年的精神麻木和抑郁甩掉了，重新找回埋底下那个年轻时闪闪发光的自己。别误会，世界还在往烂里走，要没点东西先弄死我们，大概过个一二十年全得变成疯疯癫癫的流浪汉，但至少往下坠的时候我能重新感觉到自己活着。
>>109451407
>you have to allow students and the general population to get dumber
>你得允许学生和普通大众变蠢
Spoken like some Elon cocksucker
这话说得跟马斯克的舔狗似的
>>109451385
What makes you think I'd defend those? lol
你凭啥觉得我会替那些人辩护？哈哈
>>109450749
The masses have always been indoctrinated with "you're special just because you're human and you have magical free will that comes from God" propaganda, they can't accept that they're not special anymore. Fact is they never were special
大众向来被灌输“你天生特殊，因为你是人，你有上帝赐的神奇自由意志”这种洗脑宣传，他们接受不了自己其实没什么特别的。事实就是，他们从来就没特殊过。
>>109450862
>If you're left wing it's chuds and techbros
>如果你是左派，那就是乡巴佬和科技宅的锅
It's weird how fast the tables turned on tech bros, they used to be the most liberal of all
挺奇怪科技宅风向翻这么快，他们以前可是最liberal的一群人
>>109451414
I'm glad you feeling alright, homie. May I ask what you use AI for?
兄弟，你能感觉好起来我挺高兴的。能问问你用AI都干啥吗？
>>109451325
Holy shit, I like AI (local) but you just dropped a truth nuke, basically a knock out.
我操，我也喜欢AI（本地跑的那种），但你这话简直是扔了颗真理核弹，基本一招KO。
These people would rather die from cancer than let an AI cure them.
这帮人宁可得癌症死了，也不让AI救他们。
>>109451485
>look up what he nuke is
>查查那核弹是啥
>it's urmrgay
>是urmrgay
are you ai
你是AI吗
>>109451182
> this technology that finally enables Star Trek-like utopia is bad because *fearmongering bullshit*
>这技术终于能搞出星际迷航式的乌托邦了，结果被说成坏东西，就因为那堆*吓唬人的破玩意儿*
I fucking hate Luddites so much. Have you considered that if your society cannot handle Star Trek-like utopian tech, perhaps it deserves to fall?
我他妈太恨卢德分子了。你有没有想过，如果你的社会连星际迷航级乌托邦科技都接不住，那它是不是活该完蛋？
>>109451383
AI can represent the crates. Leftists were complaining about accessibility. Now they're complaining about too much people having access.
AI代表的就是那道围栏。左派之前抱怨可及性不够，现在又抱怨太多人能接触到了。
>>109451520
>utopia
lol
>>109451465
Tech bros were liberal purely for the money, the useful idiots are liberal to protect their identity group
科技宅支持liberal纯粹为了钱，那些有用白痴支持liberal是为了护住自己的身份群体。
>>109451542
Yes, human-level AI is a necessary technology for any utopian society.
对，人类级AI是任何乌托邦社会都绕不开的必需技术。
>>109451465
I think when all new tech started to emerge. It was never built with the intent of essentially being all mini little CIA companies whose soul purpose is to profile you. But as time went on this is where the direction shifted as their market share became so large it can't grow anymore. Take the meta glasses. Seems like a neat little concept for you to have a little VR display as nerdy as it may be. But it is so fucking obvious the only reason the product was created was for surveillance and data collection on Meta's part.
我觉得当年新技术刚冒头的时候，造它们的初衷根本不是什么变成一个个迷你中情局公司、唯一目的就是给你画像。但随着时间推移，市场份额大到没法再涨了，方向就开始歪了。就拿Meta眼镜来说，乍一看是个挺有意思的小概念，给你整个小VR屏幕，虽然有点宅气。但他妈太明显了，这产品造出来唯一的理由就是Meta这边搞监控和收数据。
>>109451524
what would represent a higher fence?
什么才算更高的围栏？ ⟦ 这对买了票的人不公平
this is unfair to the people who bough a ticket
这对买了票的人来说不公平。
>>109451524
Access to do what? You realize nobody likes your shitty AI song or performance and no one asked for them?
有啥可访问的？你知不知道没人喜欢你那些破AI歌或者表演，压根没人求着你搞这些？
https://apnews.com/article/germany-bayreuth-wagner-festival-ai-f4300cdc0be195dabdadfa6d2ab4254c
>>109450961
Mother fucker you don't even understand what socialism/capitalism/communism is.
妈的，你连社会主义/资本主义/共产主义到底是啥都搞不明白。
Socialism is quite literally just central planners having the power to dictate any and all resources. Guess what these retards are selling AI as?
社会主义说白了就是中央规划者有权支配一切资源。猜猜这帮傻逼把AI吹成啥了？
>>109451591
Why do leftoids love linking to random news articles like a 60yo boomer?
为什么左棍老爱转发随机新闻链接，跟个六十岁的老登似的？
>>109451591
>imaginationlet can't comprehend that people are making AI art/music/videos for their own amusement rather then to sell for profit
>想象力废物理解不了人家做AI艺术/音乐/视频就是图一乐，而不是为了卖钱
Most arguments about AI come from the fact that luddites only see AI as something to consume rather than something to use
关于AI的大多数争论，根源就在于卢德分子只把AI当消费品，而不是当工具来用。
>>109451625
This is a festival for which people paid hundreds of euros to get in just to see some dumbass AI "art" and they booed. You have no argument
这是个花了几百欧元门票才能进的音乐节，就为看些傻逼AI“艺术”，结果全场嘘声。你压根没论点。
>>109451591
> shitty AI song
>烂到家的AI歌曲
If the same resources that went to development of text LLMs went to development of music generation models, we would have Mozart-level AI composers now and AI music would dominate the charts.
如果投入文本大语言模型开发的资源全砸在音乐生成模型上，现在早就有莫扎特级别的AI作曲家了，AI音乐直接霸榜。
It's only a matter of time.
只是时间问题而已。
>>109451631
>rather then to sell for profit
>而不是为了卖钱
You clearly don't know what you're talking about
你显然不知道自己在说啥。
>>109451631
They can't help but tell on themselves
他们憋不住就自曝了。
>>109451603
Also in the easiest terms of understanding. Why do central planners fail? Because they themselves have to try to make the determination on what YOU WANT without receiving your input. The only way to read what is/isn't in demand and must be supplied within an economy is to read the inputs from us as individuals on what people demand.
再说个最简单的理解方式。中央规划为啥会失败？因为他们得自己拍板“你想要啥”，却压根收不到你的反馈。经济里啥有需求、啥该供给，唯一的读取办法就是从我们每个人的输入里看大家要什么。
Take for example an AI central planner determining what we all need to eat. We all need ~2k calories a day to keep functioning. How does it/they determine where these calories come from? We could all just eat beans as the main protein to be sufficient. But not all of us want protein from beans. I like to eat a steak once and while and make a determination on what I'm willing to do/give up to have a steak instead of eating beans.
举个AI中央规划的例子，它决定我们都吃啥。人一天得两千卡才能维持运转。它怎么定这些热量从哪来？全吃豆子当主要蛋白质也能活。但不是每个人都想要豆子蛋白。我偶尔想吃块牛排，我愿意为此付出代价，而不是凑合吃豆子。
The AI/central planner will just be like "allocate all resources to farming beans" even if nobody wants them...
AI/中央规划者就会直接说“所有资源全种豆子”，哪怕根本没人想吃……
>>109451654
The 0 arguments you've provided have not convinced me of that
你那零个论点可说服不了我。
>>109451659
No because he thinks even if no one profited off of it it would still be good lol. Isn't half of Spotify AI shit of which most of it doesn't get money to speak of for their "composers"
不，因为他觉得就算没人从AI里赚钱，那也照样是好事，哈哈哈。Spotify上一半的AI垃圾不就是这样，大部分所谓“作曲家”压根拿不到几个钱。
>write code for semi-complicated colourspace conversions
>写个半复杂的色彩空间转换代码
>there's an error
>跑出个错误
>tell llm to rewrite my code to print intermediate values
>告诉LLM重写代码，打印中间值
>give output to llm, tell it to isolate the error
>把输出喂给LLM，让它定位错误
>it finds the error; i fix it
>它找到了错误；我修好了
tell me exactly how this is plagiarism or impacts anyone in a negative way
你跟我说说这哪算抄袭，或者伤害到谁了？
>>109451673
I think central planning fails because it lacks the ability to properly allocate resources and incentives. In other words the problem set is too complex for the central entity to fully capture.
我觉得中央规划会失败，是因为它没法合理分配资源和激励。换句话说，问题集太复杂，中央实体根本吃不透。
This may not apply to ASI with huge amount of data capture though.
但要是ASI能抓取海量数据，这套可能就不适用了。
Unironically future AI might be better thought of as demigods, and eventually full on gods.
说实话，未来的AI不如当半神来想，最后直接就是真神了。
>>109451683
I've provided like five and just shat on your profit argument
我提了起码五个论点，还把你那套“赚钱”逻辑怼得体无完肤。
Even if it all generated negative money and that money went towards me it would never make me say you composed anything. You didn't make shit.
就算这玩意儿全亏钱、亏的钱全给我，我也不会说你“创作”了任何东西。你根本没做出一丁点东西来。
>>109451702
>No because he thinks even if no one profited off of it it would still be good lol
>不，因为他觉得就算没人从中赚钱，这玩意儿也还是好的，哈哈。
It doesn't need to be good, it just needs to amuse me. Imagine seething about a guy doodling funny doodles for himself because you think his doodles aren't "good"
它不需要好，只要能逗我乐就行。想想看，有人自己画着好玩的涂鸦，你却在那儿气急败坏，因为你觉着人家涂鸦“不够好”——这不搞笑吗？
>ven if it all generated negative money and that money went towards me it would never make me say you composed anything. You didn't make shit.
>就算这玩意儿全亏钱、亏的钱全给我，我也不会说你“创作”了任何东西。你根本没做出一丁点东西来。
Again, you're completely incapable of understanding that people make stuff for their own amusement. If it's not money, it must be clout for you. You must claim ownership and proudly display it because your imaginationlet brain can't imagine just playing around with image generation for fun
再说一遍，你完全理解不了别人做东西就是图个自己乐呵。对你来说，不是钱，那就一定是为了出名。你非得标榜所有权、拿出去显摆，因为你那想象力萎缩的脑子根本无法想象有人单纯拿图像生成瞎玩取乐。
>>109451721
Oh my good god it falls to the same problems as the economic calculation problem.
我的老天爷，这又掉进了经济计算问题的同一个坑里。
The AI will have in their dataset the most efficient ways to create mudpies but never understand that it shouldn't allocate resources to make them en masse. You people thinking LLMs not as tools to be used to amplify the individual and instead seeing them as all encompassing dictators have bought so far into the shit these companies have decided to sell.
AI数据集里会有做泥巴饼的最优方法，但它永远理解不了不该大规模调配资源去做这玩意儿。你们这些人不把LLM当作放大个人能力的工具，反而当全能独裁者来膜拜——你们被那些公司兜售的狗屁骗得死死的。
>>109451764
I said already you don't know what you're talking about. As in people make or attempt to make money with it. You think this thread would have existed if people just used LLMs offline? Moreover let's imagine you do just that. You prompt shit "art" just for yourself. How soon are you gonna get bored and wish you instead learned to oil/digital paint or spent just 15 minutes a day learning guitar so you could eventually actually play it? Because every time I talked to a prompter it's evident they're ashamed they don't have skills. How is that good for _you_?
我说过了，你根本不懂你在说什么。我指的是有人拿它赚钱或试图赚钱。要是大家只是离线用LLM，这帖子还会存在吗？再说，就算你真就自己偷偷用，拿它生成点“艺术”自嗨。你多久就会腻了，然后后悔当初没学油画或数码绘画，或者每天花15分钟练吉他，好歹最后能真弹出来？因为我每次跟“提示词玩家”聊天，都明显感觉他们为自己没真本事而心虚。这对你哪好了？
>>109451832
I'm not sure how using AI stops me from playing guitar. In fact, it makes it easier by freeing up time. It's like you are so close to getting it but won't let yourself make the final connection.
我不太明白用AI怎么就挡着我弹吉他了。事实上，它能省出时间，反而更轻松了。你都快摸到门道了，却偏不让自己迈出最后一步想明白。
>>109451472
I don't think the specifics even matter and I'm still discovering/realizing all I can do with it, but broadly:
具体细节我觉得都不重要，我也还在不断发掘它能干啥，但粗略来说：
Exploring distant interests and disciplines I never got into because there was some barrier to entry or other friction that had discouraged me
探索那些我因为门槛或其他阻力从没涉足的冷门兴趣和领域。 ⟦ 跟一个不用我花12小时铺垫背景知识、至少还能装出点兴趣的人，聊极其小众的话题，进行智力上的刺激对话。
Having intellectually stimulating conversations about incredibly niche topics with someone who already knows what I'm talking about without needing 12 hours of introduction to the topic and at least manages to fake interest
和懂行的人聊非常小众的话题，既不用花12小时铺垫背景，对方还能至少装出点兴趣来，这种精神上的碰撞太爽了。
Sifting through the ocean of digital garbage and surfacing novel and interesting things instead of having to rely on "the algorithm" and engagement-baiting midwits
在数字垃圾的海洋里淘金，找出新颖有趣的东西，而不是靠“算法”和那些钓流量的平庸货色。
Just having my personal army of tireless slaves to handle my chores and build pharaonic projects on demand with no care for time, cost or utility, like some sandbox management sim with endless budget hack
就是有一支不知疲倦的私人奴仆大军，随时帮我处理杂事、按需求搭建金字塔级别的项目，不用管时间、成本或实用性——就像开了无限金钱作弊码的沙盒经营模拟游戏。
Ever felt that sense of freedom and adventure when you got your first car and you realized you could just go anywhere and do anything? Yeah, me neither, because anywhere I could go would just be the same tiresome bullshit so it didn't even feel worth the effort to drive there. But I imagine this is how boomers must have felt 60 years ago when they got theirs.
你有没有过那种感觉，拿到第一辆车，意识到你可以去任何地方、做任何事，那种自由和冒险感？嗯，我也没，因为我能去的任何地方都只是同样的无聊破事儿，根本不值得费劲开过去。但我猜这大概就是婴儿潮一代60年前拿到车时的感受吧。
>>109451852
Freeing up time as in it physically helps your fingers and nervous system? This isn't the Matrix
腾出时间是指它真的帮你活动手指和神经系统？这又不是《黑客帝国》。
>>no I mean asking for helpful lessons from it
>>不，我是说向它要些有用的教程。
That the llm leeched from free online lessons and books that you could have acquired yourself. Now you get "lessons" which have errors and bad advice.
那些LLM从免费在线课程和书里偷来的东西，你自己也能搞到。现在你拿到的是带着错误和烂建议的“教程”。
>>109451359
I want to hear your argument against the nail gun comparison.
我想听听你对钉枪对比的反驳。
>>109451959
You still need hammers despite access to nailguns.
有了钉枪，你还是需要锤子的。
>>109451971
Nail guns don’t eliminate hammers nor do they prevent people from getting good with hammers.
钉枪不会淘汰锤子，也不会阻止人们练好锤子。
AI "investors" is the new linktards
AI“投资者”就是新的链接呆子。
>>109451959
>ai "music" piece that nobody asked for and which is completely meaningless
>一首没人要的AI“音乐”作品，毫无意义。
>a bloated Electron app that doesn't even work because you don't know how to debug nor did you know there are better frameworks than Electron
>一个臃肿的Electron应用，根本跑不起来，因为你不会调试，也不知道除了Electron还有更好的框架。
>an erroneous summary about a complex topic
>一个关于复杂主题的错误摘要。
This is your nail gun.
这就是你的钉枪。
It's actually a toy gun that shoots piss.
其实是把射尿的玩具枪。
>>109451981
If the only thing you've ever known was a nailgun. You won't be good with a hammer.
如果你只认识钉枪，你就不会擅长用锤子。
>>109452002
Skill issue
技术问题（菜得抠脚）
>>109452028
Exactly, what’s wrong with that? Guys who put in the effort to get good with hammers are now in higher demand, and the guys who only need a nailgun don’t need to get good with hammers.
没错，这有什么问题？那些花功夫练好锤子的哥们儿现在更吃香了，而只需要钉枪的人也不用去练锤子。
>>109451583
A higher fence would the cost of buying a better TV. The image is obviously not realistic and only meant illustrate a concept.
更高的围栏就是买台好电视的钱。画面显然不真实，只是为了说明概念。
>>109452042
>Skill issue
>技术问题。
Glad you're agreeing with me
很高兴你同意我的看法。
>>109450749
He is right but man is he obnoxious
他说得对，但真他妈烦人。
>>109450961
Take your meds and go back to >>>/pol
吃药吧，滚回>>>/pol。
>>109452192
hard cope
硬撑。
>>109451019
Yeah smartphones ruined the internet
是啊，智能手机毁了互联网。
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