I've been thinking about picking up an e-ink reader, but I can't decide if they'

I've been thinking about picking up an e-ink reader, but I can't decide if they're actually worth the money or just another gadget that ends up sitting in a drawer. For the people who own one, was it worth the purchase? Do you actually read more because of it, or did the novelty wear off? I keep getting hit with ads on youtube for the Xteink line of readers but the fact that it lacks a front light screen reminds me of trying to play my gameboy at night as a kid and that shit fucking sucked.

我一直在考虑买个电子墨水阅读器，但拿不定主意值不值这个钱，还是又是个吃灰的小玩意儿。有入手的人说说，值得买吗？它真的让你读更多书了吗，还是新鲜感一过就没劲了？我YouTube上老刷到Xteink系列的广告，但没前光灯这事儿让我想起小时候晚上玩Game Boy，那体验真是烂透了。

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>>109440680

Do you actually read books? If not, then it's not worth it. And no, buying one won't magically make you start reading books.

你平时真读书吗？不读的话就别买了。而且别以为买一个就能神奇地让你开始读书。

>>109440704

Buying one can actually make you start reading more books, don't listen to him.

买一个确实能让你开始读更多书，别听他的。

>>109440680

I've had two Kindles and one Kobo. I would honestly just recommend the Kindle line because they're the best ones in terms of battery, build and case/cover/accessories support.

我用过两台Kindle和一台Kobo。说实话我建议直接买Kindle系列，电池、做工和外壳/保护套/配件支持都是最好的。

If you manage to jailbreak a Kindle you can install extensions and KOReader which a lot of people swear by. So in the case you do get bored of reading you can hack or repurpose the device.

如果能把Kindle越狱，你还能装扩展和KOReader，好多人强烈推荐。所以就算你读腻了，也能破解或改造这设备玩点别的。

I don't know much about the Xteink other than the fact that they're still stuck in sold out prototypes

我对Xteink了解不多，就知道它们还卡在售罄的样机阶段

I currently own a Kobo but I kind of stopped using it because the highlights export tool (the one thing I care about ereaders) sucks balls and KOReader eats the battery on Kobos like candy

我现在有台Kobo，但基本不怎么用了，因为高亮导出工具（我对电纸书唯一在意的东西）烂透了，而且KOReader在Kobo上耗电跟吃糖一样

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>>109440680

i have owned 4 and each one was at the time the best purchase i had ever made

我买过四台，每一台在当时都是我做过最值的消费

i got a sony one in 2005ish, then a kindle in 2014ish, then a kobo in 2020 and now a hibreak in 2026. they all still work, but i have the sony in a box somewhere and the kindle i gave to a friend.

我2005年左右搞了台索尼的，2014年左右弄了台Kindle，2020年又买了台Kobo，现在2026年用着Hibreak。它们都还能用，不过索尼被我扔在哪的箱子里了，Kindle送朋友了。

anyway overall i have probably saved tens of thousands in books and had a more comfortable experience reading during that time. they have a backlight (not the sony, that has a light on a semi rigid wire, you know what i mean) so you can use better reading positions and dont have to fuck around with a lamp or flashlight.

总之，这些年我大概在书上省了好几万块钱，阅读体验也更舒服。它们有背光（索尼没有，那是根半硬质电线上挂的灯，你懂我意思），所以能用更舒服的姿势读，不用折腾台灯或手电筒。

battery life is a couple days, the kobo and the kindle i basically only ever charged when i was importing books.

电池能用好几天，Kobo和Kindle我基本只有导书的时候才充电。

if you actually read you should consider them. if you get one make sure you 'sideload' all your books, dont let the (((epub vendors))) steal from you. also use epubs not pdfs.

如果你真读书，应该考虑入手。要是买了，记得把书全都“侧载”进去，别让那些出版社贩子偷你钱。还有，用epub别用pdf。

go to a store irl and look at the screen if you can, it takes a bit to get used to but if you hate it obviously dont get one

有条件的话去实体店看看屏幕，需要点时间适应，但要是你实在受不了那就别买

ama

Is there really any difference between them? I mean from what I understand Kindle really wants to lock you in with Amazon but functionally aren't all e-readers about the same? It's just a shitty tablet to read books on. Just pick one.

它们之间真有啥区别吗？我的意思是，据我了解Kindle很想用亚马逊把你绑死，但功能上所有电纸书不都差不多吗？就是个拿来读书的破平板。随便挑一个得了。

>>109441376

Kindle, like any other tech in [currernt year] sucks in its own way, to "sideload" a book you need to either send them through their cloud or use calibre (aids) to convert them to a proprietary and supported format KFX, and if you do the latter Kindle will treat those books as second class citizens as in they have *some* features disabled compared to purchased or sent-through-cloud books. Purchased books takes the best experience but you're also giving money to ((((them))))

Kindle跟[当前年份]的其他科技产品一样，各有各的烂。要“侧载”书，你得要么走它们的云，要么用calibre（麻烦死了）转换到专有支持的KFX格式。要是选后者，Kindle会把那些书当二等公民，相比买的或云端传的，会禁用*一些*功能。买书体验最好，但你也是在给那些家伙送钱

A lot of people buy Kobos because of this but it's also three times more expensive than any other device in the current kindle line

很多人因为这点买Kobo，但它也比当前整个Kindle系列任何机型贵三倍

A lot of people talk about the "amazon ecosystem lock in" because of the proprietary cloud and the books, which is something valid, but really, if you keep a copy of your ebooks in your computer or calibre, then it doesn't really matter much. Like you said, it's a shitty tablet to read books on, and Kindle might suck a little bit worse at that than its competitors, but also it's the one that has the most plugins and support in the case someone wants to do anything different with them

很多人说“亚马逊生态锁定”，因为那封闭的云和书，这说法有道理，但说真的，只要你在电脑或calibre里留一份电子书副本，那其实没啥大影响。就像你说的，就是个读书的破平板，Kindle在这点上可能比竞品差那么点，但反过来它也是插件和支持最多的，想折腾点别的也方便

Don't buy a Kindle.

别买Kindle。

Kobo or maybe pocketbook with a decent case.

买个Kobo或PocketBook，配个像样的壳。

Avoid android shit because battery and google.

别碰安卓的货，电池和谷歌都是坑。

Avoid colour screen.

别买彩屏。

6 inch for books, 8+ for comics and manga.

第一6寸看小说，8寸以上看漫画。

>muh notes

>哼笔记

>muh highlights

>哼高亮

>muh cloud sync

>哼云同步

>muh libby

>我的libby

>muh kindle app

>我的kindle应用

Fucking fuck off. Plug it in to calibre sync booka you've ripped off to it.

滚蛋吧。插到calibre里同步你盗来的书。

Buy books with no drm and use calibre to sync those to it.

买无DRM的书，然后用calibre同步过去。

Don't use fucking websites to read manga and comics because they're fake and gay.

别用那些破网站看漫画和连环画，那些都是假的，很蠢。

Use calibre to sync those to it once you've downloaded.

下载完以后用calibre同步过去。

Never "sideload". You're not someone's mom you're not on fucking reddit. Grow up. You install. You upload. You download. You copy. You delete.

永远别说“侧载”。你不是谁的妈，你也不在reddit上。成熟点。你是安装、上传、下载、复制、删除。

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>>109441507

>6 inch for books, 8+ for comics and manga.

>6寸看书，8寸以上看漫画和连环画。

lol, do you have two different ereaders?

哈哈，你有两个不同的电子阅读器吗？

>>109440680

I like having an e-reader, and adding a new toy did get me to read more. I've never cared about the front light because whole appeal is you can read it in direct sunlight. If you don't want to spend a lot of money, go to shopgoodwill.com and get a used kindle for $20, then jailbreak it and load it with pirated epubs. It's not like e-readers have changed much in the last decade, anyway.

我喜欢有个电子阅读器，添个新玩具确实让我读得更多。我从没在乎过前置灯，因为它的卖点就是可以在阳光直射下读。如果你不想花大钱，去shopgoodwill.com买个二手kindle，20美元，然后越狱塞满盗版epub。反正电子阅读器过去十年也没多大变化。

I had a boox go 7 gen II

我有一个boox go 7二代

Didn't turn it on for a month or so. Now it takes like two minutes to fully boot. Everything is perceivably slower. Tried everything to no avail, waiting on support rn

大概一个月没开机。现在开机要差不多两分钟才能完全启动。所有操作都能感觉到变慢了。试了所有办法都没用，现在在等客服回复

Other than that it's a very nice device to read books and manga on

除此之外，用来读书和看漫画是很棒的设备

>>109440680

>. For the people who own one, was it worth the purchase? Do you actually read more because of it

>对于有入手的人来说，值得买吗？你真的因此读得更多了吗？

im on my second one after owning a paperwhite for almost a decade. yes i read more with it. its more convenient i can have 50 books inside someting i can put in my pocket vs lugging physical books around and i just pirate instead of waiting for shipping

我的Paperwhite用了快十年，现在是第二个了。是的，有了它我读得更多。它更方便，口袋里能装50本书，不用拖着实体书到处跑，而且我直接盗版下载，不用等快递。

>>109440680

I use the kindle paperwhite I got off ebay all the time. only 50 bucks and I pirate all my books.

我从eBay淘的Kindle Paperwhite天天用。才50刀，书全是盗版的。

Kobo Libra 2 or get fucked

Kobo Libra 2，不然就滚。

Then use koreader, tweak the store to point at calibre web on your homelab, fill the calibre-web shelves with shelfmark, and you're good to go.

那用koreader，把商店设置指向你家homelab里的calibre web，用shelfmark填满calibre-web的书架，搞定。

You'll probably spend more time searching for an ereader than reading any fucking book anyway.

你大概花在找阅读器上的时间比读任何书都多，说真的。

I bought a kobo clara bw a while back. It was nice but during a move I lost it, forgot about it, and found it several months later. The battery is completely dead and I can't charge it anymore. Trying to decide between buying a replacement battery to replace it or just buying a new one. If you were me would you fix it or replace/upgrade?

我之前买了台kobo clara bw。挺好用的，但搬家时弄丢了，忘了这事，几个月后又找回来。电池彻底没电，充不进去了。我正纠结是买个替换电池自己修，还是直接买新的。换你，你会修还是换新升级？

cheap chink ereader + annas archive means ive read more since getting it than i have in the past decade. libraries and bookshops dont keep anything good in there anymore, cant find camp of the saints anywhere there but is on AA.

便宜的中国阅读器加annas archive，我自从买了它读的书比过去十年都多。图书馆和书店里没好货了，《圣徒营》哪儿都找不到，但AA上有。

>>109441552

you stupid fucking cunt how can you not parse this properly; not everyone wants to read comics you spastic. ergo they are served with the smaller size.

你个蠢逼贱货，这么简单都看不懂；不是人人都想读漫画，你个二百五。所以小尺寸就够用了。

>>109440680

very worth it

非常值

>Do you actually read more because of it

>它真的让你读得更多了吗

10x more, get one you can fit into a fanny pack and possibly back pocket. I prefer them over real books, also get one with the amber light for the evening.

多十倍，买个能塞进腰包甚至后裤兜的。我更喜欢它胜过实体书，再买个带琥珀色背光的，晚上用舒服。

get a kobo

买个kobo吧

>>109442376

>Getting this mad

>气成这样

You got a little cranky cause you didn't take your nap, huh buddy? It's okay. We all have grumpy dumpy days. Now be a big boy and dry your tears, your wrangler will be here any moment to take you back to your room and tuck you in.

你没睡午觉闹脾气了吧，哥们？没事的。谁都有臭脸的一天。现在乖点，把眼泪擦干，你的护工马上就到，带你回房间哄你睡觉。

>>109440680

I like having one, it's pretty neat, go for it, but don't get a Kindle, amazon sucks. I had a mix of some pirated books and some from amazon, and one day right when I turned off airplane mode, all the pirated ones magically disappeared but the amazon ones stayed, so I decided to never connect it to the internet anymore an just pirate everything

我喜欢有一个，挺不错的，买吧，但别买Kindle，亚马逊太烂。我之前混着放了一些盗版书和一些亚马逊买的，某天我一关飞行模式，所有盗版书奇迹般消失了，亚马逊买的还在，所以我决定再也不连网了，全盗版。

>>109442478

>your wrangler will be here any moment to take you back to your room and tuck you in

>你的护工马上就到，带你回房间哄你睡觉

she had better give me milkies and molest me while shes at it

她最好顺便给我奶喝再摸我几下

>>109440704

I disagree, i bought a kuru toga mech pencil (after a few days of watching videos about mech pencils) and a cheap $5 journal. I've been journaling every day since - it all started after watching this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QVYfPnNOg4

It's made my days just a little brighter and i look forward to noting down random things.

它让我的日子亮了一点点，我挺期待随手记些东西的。

In much the same way i want to get more into reading, but it's been a toss up between cheap-binding my own books, 2nd hand books or an e-reader. I personally feel like an e-reader removes nearly all friction to reading and thus will capture the habit.

我也一样想多读点书，但一直在自己装订便宜书、买二手书和电纸书之间纠结。我个人觉得电纸书几乎消除了阅读的所有阻力，所以能养成习惯。

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>>109442690

do you not have your own functioning brain

你自己没脑子吗

>>109442730

If you were born on an isolated island you'd die. If you were born deaf and blind you'd never be able to communicate (helen keller was a lie).

你生在孤岛上早就死了。你生来又聋又瞎，你永远没法交流（海伦·凯勒是假的）。

Humans are the number 1 species on earth because we observe our environment with our sense and synthesize a novel understanding then use language to communicate that. Which i did, so i don't see your problem? Unless of course you're under the incredibly narrow assumption that anyone using AI = bad, which if that's the case - lol.

人类是地球上最顶级的物种，因为我们用感官观察环境，综合出新颖的理解，再用语言传达。我这么做了，所以不明白你有啥问题？除非你狭隘地认为用AI就是坏，那要是这样——哈哈。

>>109442785

>so i don't see your problem?

>所以不明白你有啥问题？

this is female and jeet behaviour to have to outsource your own thinking to a hivemind

把自己的思考外包给群体智慧，这是娘炮和废物行为。

>>109440680

If you're unsure buy a refurb. You just missed a sale on woot today for kindle paper whites(2021) for $39.

不确定的话就买翻新机。你今天刚错过woot上Kindle Paperwhite（2021款）$39的促销。

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>>109442812

>If you were born on an isolated island you'd die. If you were born deaf and blind you'd never be able to communicate (helen keller was a lie).

>如果你生在孤岛上你会死。如果你天生又聋又瞎，你永远无法交流（海伦·凯勒是个谎言）。

You're deaf and blind.

你又聋又瞎。

Fell for the youtuber shill FOM gadget...again

又中了YouTube博主带货的FOM gadget的招……第三次了。

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>>109440680

Kobo if you want a new one. Old Kindle Paperwhites are the value buy. New ones are locked down garbage, but old ones are cheap and not biodegradable. Just load it up with Calibre over USB. Never connect to wifi. You don't need to jailbreak, sideload, ... whatever bullshit.

想买新的就选Kobo。旧款Kindle Paperwhite是性价比之选。新款是锁死的垃圾，但旧款便宜还不环保降解。用Calibre通过USB装书就行，永远别连WiFi。不需要越狱或侧载，那些全是扯淡。

>>109442875

>no cover

>没封面

>screen protector

>有屏幕贴膜

bro that thing is dogshit

兄弟那玩意儿烂透了。

>>109440680

i have an Xteink X4 that i use to read during bus travels, its a nice device and there is a new model the X4 pro with backlight but its made to be used while you wait for something else, if you want to use it as a regular ebook there is better choices, and yes it had made me read more

我有台Xteink X4，坐公交时看书用，设备不错，还有新款X4 Pro带背光，但它设计出来就是让你在等别的东西时随便翻翻的，你想当正经电子书用有更好的选择，不过它确实让我读得更多了。

>>109443120

Should I use Crosspoint or the stock app? The benefits sure trump the stock one but seeing that it's just a fucking small ereader it feels stupid to use it for anything more than reading short paperbacks or poems.

该用Crosspoint还是自带的app？功能确实远超自带的，但就一破小阅读器，拿来读短篇平装书或诗歌以外的玩意儿感觉犯傻。

Don't want to know the weather or other crap on such a small screen

不想在这么小的屏幕上看天气或其他垃圾信息。

>>109443149

i honestly dont know how its the stock app, installed crosspoint right away, it honestly doesnt make much of a difference besides fonts maybe, if you find the stock app good there is really no reason to use cfws

我真不知道自带app咋样，直接装了Crosspoint，说实话除了字体可能有点差别，没太大区别，你觉得自带的好用就真没必要搞第三方固件。

receiving the xtink pro soon

快收到xtink pro了。

>>109440704

Fpbp, fuck consoomer faggots ITT

Fpbp，IT的消费主义废物们去死。

btw, if you "read" a book on an e-reader, you didn't actually read it. I will not elaborate.

顺便说，如果你在电子阅读器上“读”了本书，你没真读。我不解释。

>>109443944

Good. I didn't actually "read" your post lmao

好。我也没真“读”你的帖子，哈哈。

>>109445874

Did that guy say anything? I am on a computer therefore i cannot read what he said.

那人说了啥？我在电脑上，所以读不了他说的。

>>109440680

ive had a couple nothing beats them for reading manga except real paper, my mum was against the idea initially but i got her one for books she loves it theyre just great devices. avoid kindles though theyre lockdown pieces of shit if you want to go with a major brand kobo is the most open and you have the option to install third party software such as koreader. I recently switched to a colour android model from a company called bigme id recommend them also theyre pretty good although battery life isn't as good as my old clara hd. if you want a kobo where you can expand the storage the kobo clara hd screen looks great and the internal storage is a microsd that can be upgraded. you cant buy these new anymore but used should be fine

我用过好几个，看漫画没别的能比得上，除了纸质书。我妈一开始反对，但我给她买了个看书用的，她爱不释手，这玩意儿确实棒。不过别碰Kindle，那玩意儿锁得死死的，是坨屎。要选大牌子的话，Kobo最开放，还能装第三方软件比如KOReader。我最近换了个叫Bigme的国产安卓彩色款，也推荐他们，挺不错的，虽然续航不如我以前那台Clara HD。想要能扩容的Kobo的话，Kobo Clara HD屏幕很棒，内置存储是microSD卡，可以升级。这个型号现在买不到全新的了，但二手应该没问题。

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>>109440964

>recommending a swindle

>推荐一把“坑钱货” （注：此处“swindle”指代Kindle，谐音“Kindle”的贬义称呼）

>on /g/

op, get a kobo and install koreader

楼主，买个Kobo装KOReader就对了

>>109440680

Bought a used Kobo Aura because I was unsure like you and it probably is the best tech purchase I ever made. I used to be an avid paper reader but when I got my first computer in late nineties I dropped the abit of reading books. In a sense I kept reading web pages, Usenet, forums, etc but it has been with the Kobo that all the magic started again. Now I read more or less an hour a day and I'm very happy about it. Battery is not what it used to be in 2018 but I still get many days out of it and charge is just an USB port away and takes less than an hour, it just a non-problem. Books are easily found in epub format and let avid readers to save a lot of money and explore new reading territories. Every once in a while I consider buying a new Kobo but my old Aura just werks and I kinda love it as it is. I slapped KOReader on it some years ago but honestly it was very good even when stock.

我买了台二手Kobo Aura，因为一开始跟你一样不确定，结果这可能是我最值的一次数码消费。我以前是个狂热纸质书读者，但90年代末拿到第一台电脑后就不怎么看书了。说起来我一直在刷网页、Usenet、论坛什么的，但真正让我重新找回阅读魔力的就是Kobo。现在我每天差不多读一小时，特别满足。电池肯定不如2018年那会儿了，但撑好多天没问题，充电就插个USB，不到一小时搞定，根本不算事。书很容易找到epub格式，让爱看书的人省不少钱，还能探索新的阅读领域。我时不时琢磨着买台新Kobo，但这台老Aura还在服役，我也挺喜欢它现在的状态。几年前我给它刷了KOReader，但说实话，原生系统就已经很好用了。

Buy used is a good advice, 6" for reading novels or essays is perfect for comfort and portability.

买二手确实是个好建议，6寸看小说或散文，便携性和舒适度都刚刚好。

>>109447413

Or just get a kindle and install Koreader?

或者直接买个Kindle装KOReader不就行了？

You can on both

两个都能装。

I’ve used a few different ereaders over the years:

这些年我用了好几款不同的电纸书：

>3rd gen Kindle keyboard

>第三代Kindle键盘版

the screen was quite sharp, buttons made it nice and tactile, but quite clunky and unwieldy

屏幕挺锐利，物理按键手感很好，但整体笨重不好拿。

>kindle paperwhite

> 亚马逊的Kindle Paperwhite

massive downgrade. The words looked blurrier compared to my previous kindle, despite it having better specs on paper. Felt cheap and the lack of buttons made it mushy

大幅降级。虽然纸面参数更好，但字看起来比我之前的Kindle模糊。手感廉价，没有按键导致操作软绵绵的。

>kobo color

>Kobo彩色版

I would have preferred the monochrome one but they had stopped selling it. It felt nice in the hand but I could never get over the shitty display because of the color layer

我本来想要黑白款的，但已经停售了。握持感不错，但彩色层那糟糕的显示效果我一直忍不了。

>xteink x3

>xteink x3（引用：xteink x3 设备名）

My favorite ereader so far. Very tactile and snappy, it feels better in the hand than the kobo. Because there’s no color or touch layers, the text looks extremely sharp. I also prefer the simple UI more than koreader and Plato, which often crashed. Despite the lack of a backlight, I can still read it in most conditions without any issue. It’s also super portable so I find myself reading a fair bit more

目前我最喜欢的电纸书。触感和响应速度都很棒，握在手里比Kobo舒服。因为没有彩色层和触控层，文字看起来特别锐利。我也更喜欢它简洁的界面，比KOReader和Plato强，那俩经常崩溃。虽然没有背光，但大多数环境下阅读都没问题。而且超级便携，我发现自己读得比以前多多了。

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>>109447774

Based Daidouji enjoyer

逮到个Daidouji爱好者，有品位。

Ive got pocketbook inkpad 4. Made me read more. The color display definitely makes the screen darker but it doesnt matter if you turn the backlight on. Battery lasts so long i dont even need to think about it even with the backlight at ~30. The color is dim but nice if you read color manga or whatever that shit is called.

我买了 pocketbook inkpad 4，结果看得更多了。彩色屏确实让屏幕变暗，但只要开背光就没事。电池续航长到我都懒得操心，背光开到 30% 左右也一样。色彩偏暗但看彩色漫画那些玩意儿还挺舒服的。

>>109442690

Do you need AI to validate your thoughts? What the hell man.

你还需要 AI 来认可你的想法？搞什么鬼啊哥们。

>>109440680

I like e-readers, sometimes I don't touch it for months and then I go on a reading spree using it all the time for weeks. I don't think having a reader by itself will turn you into a reader but it's quite comfortable if you're already used to reading.

我喜欢电子书阅读器，有时候几个月不碰，然后突然进入阅读狂热期，连着几周天天用。我不觉得光有个阅读器就能把你变成读者，但如果你本来就有阅读习惯，它确实挺舒服的。

I have a 2018 Kindle Paperwhite, never really felt the need to upgrade it since it has a backlight and I just use Calibre to import books. If you are paranoid about amazon you can just leave it in airplane mode permanently.

我有台 2018 年的 Kindle Paperwhite，从来没觉得需要升级，因为有背光，而且我直接用 Calibre 导入书。你要是担心亚马逊，可以永远开飞行模式。

>>109450206

inkpad 4 is BW

inkpad 4 是黑白的

you mean a InkPad Color 3?

你指的是 InkPad Color 3 吧？

personally I think color eink isn't there yet

我个人觉得彩色电子墨水还没成熟

maybe in 5-10 years

可能还得等五到十年

>>109441507

tranny post

变性人帖子

>>109450206

Inkpad is only 7.8". You're not really gonna read manga on something that small, you need at least 10".

Inkpad 才 7.8 英寸。那么小的屏看漫画根本不行，至少得 10 英寸。

>>109440680

If you don't already read, an E-Reader isn't going to motivate you to.

你要是本来就不读书，电子阅读器也激不起你的动力。

>>109450247

Name 1 (one) singular thing wrong with the information presented in that picture.

你能说出那张图里哪怕一个地方有错吗？