>built the app over the course of a few months

>built the app over the course of a few months

>花了几个月时间把应用做出来

>released, launched, looks and runs good

>发布了，上线了，外观和运行都挺好

>now have to become a sales/marketing sleazebag in order to get any users

>现在却得当个销售/营销的油滑家伙才能拉到用户

I'm a bit frozen in place, builderbrain isn't made for salesbrain

我有点僵在原地，程序员脑子干不了销售那套活儿

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>>109437360

That's why you have to find someone ruthless to market your app before you develop it. You failed at step zero.

所以你得在开发之前先找个心狠手辣的人来帮你营销。你从第零步就输了。

Sorry to say programmers are not fit to market anything.

抱歉直说，程序员根本不适合推销任何东西。

>>109437368

definitely seems like this is one of the biggest reasons why most tech startups fail, outside of just not having any product fit at all. Engineerbrain and salesbrain have very little overlap and someone has to do that jewy side of things. I'm going to start email campaigns tomorrow but I'm dreading the angry boomer responses to spam lol

这绝对像是大多数科技创业公司失败的最大原因之一，除了纯属产品没市场之外。工程师脑子和销售脑子重叠极少，总得有人去干那些精明的琐事。我明天就要开始发邮件轰炸了，不过一想到那些暴躁老古董对垃圾邮件的回复我就头疼哈哈。

>>109437360

Could be worse. Ive spent like 1k on claude building my app/toolset only to realise im the only spaz that would want it

还能更糟。我花了大概一千块在Claude上建我的应用/工具集，结果发现只有我这种怪胎才想要这玩意儿。

>>109437483

Well we gotta take our shots brother. Drop down to the $20/mo Codex sub and use 5.6 sol on high, keep plugging

兄弟，咱就得硬着头皮试一把。降到那个20刀每月的Codex订阅，用5.6 sol调到高，继续猛干。

>>109437360

Code is cheap now

代码现在便宜了

Marketing and business acumen is the new moat

营销和商业头脑才是新的护城河

>>109437360

>another working-class mongoloid discovers that marketing, sales, and management was the hard work all along

>又一个劳动阶级傻逼发现营销、销售和管理其实才是最难的那部分

People in marketing and sales would sell off their own family if it would benefit the company. If you aren't willing to do that or something similar you're just not fit for the job.

营销和销售的人只要能给公司带来利益，连自己家人都能卖了。你要是做不到那种地步或者类似的事，你就不适合这行。

>>109437483

The skills I am trying to develop is using claude free tier only. Keep projects small and manageable, build interfaces and modules that snap together rather than entire projects, etc etc.

我在练的技能是只用Claude免费版。保持项目小而可控，搭建能拼在一起的界面和模块，而不是整个大项目，以此类推。

>>109437522

that's why AI has unleashed all these new unicorns held back by lack of a technical founder

这就是为什么AI催生了一堆之前因为没有技术创始人才被憋住的新独角兽公司。

Unicorns like...

像啥独角兽……

Um..

Like...

hmmmm

How does one even market stuff? Do you just have to be a psycho and get in everyone face?

到底怎么搞营销？难道你真得当个疯子，到处怼人脸？

>>109437637

mind games, social engineering, cold approaches, 0 fear of rejection

心理游戏、社会工程、冷不丁主动出击、对拒绝零恐惧

>>109437545

>product fit

>产品契合度

Building the pipeline and adjusting to change is the hard work, regular marketing and management is not hard, you cannot call it hard work, because it is not.

搭好流程并适应变化才是难活儿，常规营销和管理并不难，不能叫苦活儿，因为根本算不上。

>>109437382

>definitely seems like this is one of the biggest reasons why most tech startups fail

>这绝对像是大多数科技创业公司失败的最大原因之一

If we ignore just outright bad business ideas yeah in my experience pretty much. The ones that don't fail because their business idea is the equivalent to setting off fireworks in a public park and then charging people in the area that saw it often fail because they have no one that knows how to sell their product to the right customers.

如果我们先不管纯粹是烂商业点子的那些，就我的经验来说基本就是这么回事。那些不是因为点子烂到像在公园里放烟花还收围观群众钱而失败的，往往是因为没人知道怎么把产品卖给对路的客户。

One of the best examples are medical and lab equipment software support, there are huge niches that in theory are wide open to anyone, in practice unless you have someone that gets you an in into those industries (not the manufacturer side the business customer side) you'd get fucking nowhere.

最好的例子之一是医疗和实验室设备的软件支持，这里有巨大的细分市场，理论上对任何人都开放，但实际上，除非有人帮你打入这些行业（不是制造商那边，而是商业客户那边），否则你根本进不去。

>>109437360

>>now have to become a sales/marketing sleazebag in order to get any users

>>现在为了获得用户，不得不变成销售/营销油子

you're supposed to find out if there's an appetite for your product before you spend months and years building it.

你应该在花几个月甚至几年去开发产品之前，先搞清楚有没有人想要这东西。

>>109437483

>only to realise im the only spaz that would want it

>结果发现只有我这个白痴想要

What kind of app? Surely there's at least some demand, especially if it's a niche that has not been covered often.

什么样的应用？肯定至少有点需求吧，尤其是那种没什么人做过的细分领域。

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