Talk to me about your homelab.
给我说说你的家庭实验室吧。
给我说说你的家庭实验室吧。
fuck off fed
滚出 fed
It's a beelink
这是蜂鸟（Beelink）
Bzzzzzzzzz
>>109402576
It's shut down because electricity prices jumped and the tech industry is a fake and gay shitshow of nojobz and jeet babysitting. I make more getting dumb/rich boomers to pay me to move shit around for them.
它停摆了，因为电价暴涨，而科技行业就是个没正经工作、只会给巨婴当保姆的虚假又娘炮的烂摊子。我给那些又蠢又富的婴儿潮一代搬东西，赚得都比这多。
Three Proxmox hosts with different configurations, two with 48Gb RAM, one with 16. An old HP MicroServer with 4 x 3Tb WD Blue running Proxmox Backup Server. VMs back up every Sunday night and it just keeps the last two backups.
三台 Proxmox 宿主机，配置各不相同，两台 48GB 内存，一台 16GB。还有一台老旧的 HP MicroServer，装着 4 块 3TB 的西数蓝盘，跑着 Proxmox Backup Server。虚拟机每周日凌晨备份，只保留最近两份备份。
One VM is the main docker host running a pile of things - Portainer, NGINX, SillyTavern, Hermes, Open WebUI, a couple of game servers. Then there's a HomeAssistant VM and the beginnings of a media host VM (when I get around to moving Plex off the laptop it's currently running from).
其中一台虚拟机是主力 Docker 宿主，跑着一堆东西——Portainer、NGINX、SillyTavern、Hermes、Open WebUI，还有几个游戏服务器。另外还有一台 HomeAssistant 虚拟机，以及一个刚开始搭建的媒体主机虚拟机（等我得空把 Plex 从它现在跑的那台笔记本上迁过来再说）。
I guess this isn't so much a home 'lab' as proper utilities I use all the time.
我想这与其说是家庭实验室，不如说是我日常使用的正经实用工具。
I'd like to get NextCloud running some time, but the last time I tried it updating was a complete nightmare.
我本来想找个时间把 NextCloud 跑起来，但上次我尝试更新时简直是一场噩梦。
What are homelabs usually used for?
大家通常拿家庭实验室干啥用？
>>109405543
Learning about virtualization so you can get a real job.
学习虚拟化技术，好找到正经工作。
I had a homelab when I was in high school. Almost 20 years later I'd never want something like that in my house ever again. Servers are my profession, not my hobby. A router and a simple single NAS for backups and streaming is enough.
我高中时搞过一个家庭实验室。快20年过去了，我再也不想在家里碰那种东西了。服务器是我的职业，不是我的爱好。一个路由器和一个简单的单盘 NAS 用来备份和串流就足够了。
>>109405543
Learning shit to get jobs or being based and learning how to hack. Either way you're inviting enterprise insanity into your home.
要么是为了找饭碗瞎学一通，要么是被基佬附体学怎么搞黑。反正不管怎样，你都是在把企业的疯癫带入你的家。
>>109405543
it's like having your own car instead of using an application like uber. But for the field of information technology.
这就像是你自己买车而不是用优步这样的网约车应用，只不过是在信息技术领域罢了。
For example, you can have your own digital library with important documents in your own domestic infrastructure.
比如说，你可以在自己家的基础设施里拥有自己的数字图书馆，存放重要的文档。
Does anyone use vyos for homelab? Tried pfsense but freebsd is shit with realtek drivers and now im using openwrt on x86 but its kinda limited. Was thinking about trying vyos cause its linux based while being more enterprise focused but it seems like no one uses it for homelab applications.
有人在家用实验室里用 VyOS 吗？试过 PfSense，但 FreeBSD 的 Realtek 驱动简直是垃圾，现在我改用 x86 上的 OpenWrt 了，但功能有点受限。本来想试试 VyOS，因为它基于 Linux 且更偏向企业级，但看起来没人把它用于家庭实验室场景。
>>109404511
>he thinks feds can see what you have on your local network with basic encryption.
>还以为联邦调查局能通过基本加密监控到你局域网里有啥东西呢。
>>109405861
I would say its like maintaining your own car with all the tools you have rather than going to a mechanic.
我会说这就像是你用自己手头的工具修自己的车，而不是去找修车铺。
>>109405543
I personally use it to have a completely free server solution for my website projects rather than paying to Amazon, Google or other providers. I run everything through cloudflare to avoid port forwarding and potential DDoS attacks. Before I learned about cloudflare tunneling i got ddos attacks from Russia and China every 3rd day.
我个人用它来给我的网站项目提供完全免费的服务器解决方案，而不是给亚马逊、谷歌或其他提供商交钱。我通过 Cloudflare 路由一切，以避免端口转发和潜在的 DDoS 攻击。在了解到 Cloudflare 隧道之前，我每三天就会遭到来自俄罗斯和中国的 DDoS 攻击。
>>109405907
I tried, but, when I looked at it, they seemingly purposely made some portion of the process intentionally shitty to sell some support package or some bullshit like that causing me to instantly lose interest.
我试过，但当我研究它时，发现他们似乎故意把部分流程做得很烂，为了逼你买某些支持套餐或类似的鬼东西，这让我瞬间失去了兴趣。
>>109402576
Turing Pi V2 3x SOPINE64 + Jetson Nano + + 2 TB NAS + FreshTomato router + Kubernetes
Turing Pi V2，3x SOPINE64 + Jetson Nano + 2TB NAS + FreshTomato 路由器 + Kubernetes
>>109404686
I really like it btw, just a simple proxmox machine that's low wattage and isn't overkill but makes it easy to run most things in LXCs. I also have a set of 10 Gbit switches as a wired backbone and an old optiplex SFF converted into an OMV NAS (poor choice, no space in the case for multiple 3.5" drives). I imagine this is the most vanilla setup, but it works really well.
顺便说一句，我很喜欢这个配置。就是一台低功耗的 Proxmox 机器，既不浪费性能，又让在 LXC 里跑大多数东西变得很简单。我还有一套万兆交换机作为有线骨干网，另外把一台旧的小机箱 Optiplex 改装成了 OMV NAS（这选择有点蠢，机箱里根本塞不下多块 3.5 寸硬盘）。我想这算是最基础的配置了，但确实很好用。
Only thing missing is a GPU for local models. I have a bunch of lead acid batteries and 4x 100W solar panels, I want to create an off-grid GPU machine but the datacenter boom and corporate/gov't effort to kill personal access to 48+ GB VRAM put those plans on hold.
唯一缺的就是用来跑本地模型的显卡了。我手头有一堆铅酸电池和 4 块 100W 的太阳能板，本想搞一台离网的显卡服务器，但数据中心热潮加上企业/政府打压个人获取 48GB+ 显存的行为，让这些计划暂时搁置了。
this plus:
再加上：
1 dedicated server in Canada
1 台位于加拿大的独立服务器
2 vps in Canada
2 台位于加拿大的 VPS
1 vps in UK
1 台位于英国的 VPS
2 vps in Germany
2 台位于德国的 VPS
5 vps in US
5 台位于美国的 VPS
Not telling what it's used for.
不说是用来干嘛的。
>>109402576
>nas setup with music production gear
>带有音乐制作设备的 NAS 配置
What is even the idea here?
这到底是个什么思路？
>>109410340
LARP, like every other poster itt
装逼，就像这里所有发帖的人一样
>>109402576
Hey, tell us about it, what devices are those? And what are you using them for?
嘿，跟我们说说呗，都是什么设备？拿来做什么的？
>>109402576
I don't have a homelab really, my home server is basically my old gaming PC with more HDDs added in. I have another old PC that I use to save backups on (a Haswell i5) and a couple of RPi's used for a bunch of things but I don't really consider that part of any "lab" and they're mostly appliances that do their jobs and I never touch at this point.
我其实没什么家庭实验室，家里的服务器基本上就是一台加了更多硬盘的老游戏主机。还有另一台旧电脑用来存备份（是 Haswell i5），以及几个树莓派用于各种用途，但我真不觉得那算是“实验室”的一部分，它们基本上就是些各干各活的设备，我现在都不怎么碰了。
>>109402576
My "homelab" is just my PC which happens to have 3 SSDs, 2 HDDs, 80 GB of RAM, and a SATA to USB adapter where I hotplug more SSDs if I need to. I also have 2 GPUs in it, trying to make GPU passthrough work but I'm just too impatient for it.
我的“家庭实验室”其实就是我那台碰巧有 3 个 SSD、2 个 HDD、80GB 内存，还有一个 SATA 转 USB 适配器（需要时可以热插拔更多 SSD）的电脑。我还装了两张显卡，正试着搞显卡直通，但我实在太没耐心了。
>>109405543
All other replies are cope. The actual reason is just autism. No one needs a dedicated switch at home.
其他所有回复都是自我安慰。真正的原因纯粹是自闭。没人家里需要一台独立交换机。
>>109405655
>Learning about virtualization so you can get a real job.
>学习虚拟化技术，以便找到份正经工作。
>>109402576
I use it to reencode porn and upload it to private trackers.
我用它来重新编码色情视频并上传到私人追踪站点。
>>109413298
This is actually good for the connector.
这对那个接口来说其实挺好的。
>>109402576
I would censor those ip's if i were you
换作是我，我会把这些 IP 地址打码
>>109402576
I don't have one.
我没有。
There isn't a single practical use for one outside of just running connected VMs like a retard if you wanna test your viruses in a controlled environment.
除了像个蠢货一样运行连接的虚拟机（如果你想在受控环境里测试病毒）之外，它没有任何实际用途。
172.16.0.0/12BARONS ww@
>14700K/128GB/3060 (plex)
>14700K/128GB/3060 (跑 Plex)
>14700K/128GB
>12900K/96GB/A770 16GB (AI)
>3x13th gen NUC with i3, 16GB, 500GB (ffmpeg jobs)
>3 台 13 代酷睿 NUC，i3，16GB，500GB (跑 FFmpeg 任务)
>Each rack server has its own APC backup power supply, network gear has one dedicated too (further in cabinet)
>每台机架服务器都有自己的 APC 不间断电源，网络设备也有独立的（在机柜更里面）
I am compensating for my lack of skill by having a lot of hardware and power draw.
我靠大量的硬件和高功耗来弥补我技术的不足。
>>109413491
>rack in the living room
>客厅里的机架
do you not have fan noise? or do you just not cool/do nothing with your shit
你不怕风扇噪音吗？或者你根本不清理/不处理你的那些破玩意儿？
>>109413391
About to DDoS his whole subnet.
正准备 DDoS 他整个子网。
>>109405926
Going through the trouble of setting up a homeserver only to end up using cloudflare services seems kinda pointless no? Isn't the whole point regaining tech sovereignty and not relying on big corpo clouds n shit
费劲心思搭个家庭服务器，结果最后用的是 Cloudflare 的服务，感觉挺没意义的吧？整个目的不是要获得技术主权，不再依赖那些大公司的云之类的东西吗？
>>109413391
Oh no, you now have a couple of his local IPs. Are you gonna use them for hacking the Gibson?
噢不，你现在有了他几个本地 IP。你是打算拿去黑 Gibson 吗？
>>109413613
I think he may have been joking.
我觉得他可能是在开玩笑。
>>109413516
They are just noctuas, they aren't loud. It's not "real" rack gear.
它们只是 noctuas，并不吵。这也不是什么“真正”的机架式设备。
>>109413454
What about ARRs
ARR 呢？
>two proxmox nucs
>两台proxmox NUC
>big-nig and nig-rig
>一台叫big-nig，一台叫nig-rig
big nig 128gb ram and hosts my pentesting golden images
big nig有128GB内存，跑我的渗透测试黄金镜像
nig-rig egpu passed through 3060 to run stable diffusion to serve me very fat naked women images and 5 external hdds attached to run my proxmox server
nig-rig把3060显卡直通进去跑stable diffusion，专门给我生成超肥裸女图，还挂了5个外置硬盘跑我的proxmox服务器
>bunch of sbcs to do stupid shit
>一堆SBC干些蠢事
ones a twitter shitposter, ones a local wikipedia and the others a python sandpit. silly shit.
一个是推特喷子机器人，一个是本地维基百科，还有一个是Python沙盒。纯傻逼玩意儿。
>>109402576
Why the fuck does it have a DRIVINGSCHOOL sticker on the side?
为什么侧面贴了个驾校的贴纸？
>>109413848
virtual switch
虚拟交换机
>>109402576
>be me applying for first sysadmin job
>我，去应聘第一个系统管理员职位
>question about homelabs come up and if I have one
>面试问到homelab，问我有没有搞
>I start laughing and ask what's the point since the infrastructure I had at my old jobs isn't going to get stolen by me to practice on at home
>我直接笑出声，问有啥意义，反正我在以前公司用的那套基础设施又不可能被我偷回家练手
>manager laughs too and says 'oh good, so you don't think about work 24/7' and offers me the job
>经理也笑了，说“挺好，那说明你不会24小时想着工作”，然后直接给我offer了
>>109405655
I use mine to replace all streaming services, for video, music, audiobooks. It’s also my secondary firewall, dns sinkhole, serves as my data backup, etc.
我拿它替代所有流媒体服务，视频、音乐、有声书都靠它。它同时也是我的第二道防火墙、DNS屏蔽器，还兼做数据备份什么的。
There is really no reason against a homeserver / homelab
真的没什么理由反对搞台家用服务器/homelab
>>109416527
>stories that never happened
>根本没发生过的故事
i use my homelab to pretend that girls are interested in me
我拿我的homelab假装有女生对我感兴趣
>"homelab"
>cobbled together eWaste
>拼凑起来的电子垃圾
>muh dashboard
>我的仪表盘啊
>muh wife loves to watch her stories and she heckin loves it when i pirate them for her and her in laws
>我老婆爱看她那些剧，我帮她和她婆家那边的亲戚盗版下载，她可开心了
holy reddit this shit is so fucking gay
卧槽这红迪味儿也太重了，太特么基了
>>109416937
Everybody has gone back to piracy at this point. Most people just use stremio or similar. Even my parents have one of those chinese superboxes that sell your ip address.
现在所有人都回归盗版了。大多数人直接用stremio或者类似的。连我爸妈都用那种会卖你IP地址的中国电视盒子。
>>109416937
what the fuck is stories? I fucking hate netflix and streaming shit even if I could afford all of them its still shit the interfaces are fucking dog shit and annoying if that requires me to wait like 10mins to download so 4k UHD rip of some movie and maybe a minor scan even 20min wait I am fucking fine with that.
stories到底是什么鬼？我特么恨死Netflix和流媒体了，就算我全付得起，那界面也烂得一逼，烦得要死。如果让我等10分钟下载一部4K UHD电影，再扫一下，哪怕要等20分钟我都完全没问题。
>>109416759
Sorry you're not experienced
抱歉，你经验不够
>>109416862
Depends - some retards love them since it shows 'desire' but realistically a homelab isn't needed
看人——有些傻逼爱搞这玩意儿因为显得“有热情”，但说实话homelab真没必要
A few VMs on a laptop yes but a whole fucking server and shit isn't needed
笔记本上跑几个VM还行，但搞一整个服务器什么的完全没必要
>>109417204
Soap operas, like days of our lives and general hospital
肥皂剧，比如《我们的日子》和《综合医院》那种
>>109413579
How do you keep your ip a secret but still host things at home to access from a url, without using Cloudflare's free spyware? Genuinely asking.
怎么在隐藏IP的前提下，在家托管服务用URL访问，但又不用Cloudflare那个免费间谍软件？真心求教。
>>109405655
>Learning about virtualization so you can get a real job.
>学习虚拟化技术，以便找到份正经工作。
You know, when it's virtual, you can install it on any machine. Did you know that?
你知道吧，既然是虚拟的，你可以装在任何机器上。这你不知道？
Of course 20 years ago it wasn't that popular, little boomberboy. But nowadays you can just run an entire lab on your cheap 200€ notebook and it's the same as if you'd run it on a supercomputer
当然20年前没那么流行，小屁孩。但现在你花200欧买个便宜笔记本就能跑整个实验室，跟跑在超级计算机上没区别
It's a terramaster F4-424 Max with four 4tb drives running OMV and ZFS with RAIDZ1
那是一台Terramaster F4-424 Max，四块4TB硬盘，跑OMV加ZFS RAIDZ1
I went WAY overkill with the CPU because it was on sale at the time and because I convinced myself that the more services I add the more relevant the extra performance will be.
我在CPU上超级过度配置了，因为当时打折，而且我自我催眠说加的服务越多，那多余的性能就越有用。
As it turns out running like 10 services is pretty computationally cheap when no one's using them, so now 99.9% of the time it's an overpowered pihole/wireguard machine
结果发现没人用的时候跑十来个服务其实挺省资源的，所以现在99.9%的时间它就是个性能过剩的pihole/wireguard机器
Jellyfin was its main purpose but I don't really use it as much anymore (mom and dad used it for a while more than me so it wasn't a total loss)
Jellyfin本来是它的主要用途，但我现在用得没那么多了（我爸妈比我多用了一阵子，所以也不算完全白搭）
I have a copyparty instance I run for a friend group but I doubt they touched it beyond the initial "oh cool man, thanks!"
我给我朋友群跑了一个copyparty实例，但我怀疑他们除了最开始那句“哦酷啊兄弟，谢了！”之外根本没碰过
I have an un-federated Matrix server for that same group as a "backup" in case Discord shits itself and dies, naturally it's dead.
我为同一个群搞了个非联邦的Matrix服务器，作为万一Discord抽风挂掉的“备胎”，结果它自然也是死寂一片
Oh fuck I forgot about syncthing
哦操，我忘了syncthing
fucking love syncthing
太他妈爱syncthing了
Call me a consumerist whore but even though it was objectively a bad use of my money, I just like having it
你可以骂我是消费主义婊，但就算它客观上花我钱花得不值，我就是喜欢有它在那
I like the IDEA of having a tool to solve a future problem more than anything.
我最爱的其实是“有个工具能解决未来问题”这个想法本身，超过其他一切
>>109405543
LARPing as a sysadmin
假装自己是系统管理员在玩角色扮演
You can argue that independent self-hosting is good and secure and cheaper in the long run and so on and so forth, but truth is it's only worth the effort if you think it's inherently neat, otherwise it's a ball ache that's not worth the effort.
你可以说独立自托管又好又安全又长远省钱之类的屁话，但说实话，只有你觉得这事儿本身很酷才值得折腾，不然它就是个不值得费劲的麻烦精
>>109402576
How do you guys afford a house to put the homelab in? Surely yall aren't doing that in rentals.
你们哪来的钱买房子放homelab？肯定不是租房搞的吧。
>>109417204
Just stop being poor.
你就别穷呗。
>>109413491
A whole gaming pc with $1000 ram for your plex server? How many simultaneous users?
整个游戏PC加1000刀的RAM就为跑你的plex服务器？同时多少个用户啊？
>>109402576
just a beefy optiplex micro pc to host 1 game server at a time (the one me and my frens are playing at the moment), arr stack, pihole, hermes, home assistant.
就一台够用的optiplex迷你机，一次只托管一个游戏服务器（就是我和兄弟们当时正在玩的那个）、arr全家桶、pihole、hermes、home assistant
Then a simple n100 based nas with 4 HDDs to store the pirated movies, shows and weekly backups of the services I run on the optiplex.
然后一个简单的n100 NAS，带4块机械硬盘，用来存偷来的电影剧集和optiplex上跑的服务每周备份
And lastly a 5800x3d/rtx3090 which most of the time is on ubuntu server running local ai for hermes and other stuff and that can dual boot to windows when I have visit and we wanna play games together. Pretty comfy setup I would say
最后还有一台5800x3d/rtx3090，大部分时间跑ubuntu server，给hermes和其他东西跑本地AI，需要时可以双启动到windows，等我朋友来串门一起打游戏。我觉得这套配置挺舒服的
>>109413651
I thought jokes were supposed to be funny.
我以为笑话应该好笑才对。
>>109420659
Sometimes up to 10, but I've got capacity to increase that. I just hand out my plex to everyone I know. 124TB of HDD space too, it has almost everything.
有时候多达10个，但我还有余量能往上加。我把plex白送给每个认识的人。还有124TB的机械硬盘空间，基本上啥都有。
>>109410340
making unemployed brown poors seethe
让失业的棕色穷人破防
this is a white man's hobby
这是白人的爱好
>>109417227
>Sorry you're not experienced
>对不起你没经验
Kek, I have so much experience, that I even got a tenured position, you tosser.
呵呵，我经验多到都拿到终身教职了，你个傻逼。
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