This guy single-handedly killed linux and it never recovered

This guy single-handedly killed linux and it never recovered

这家伙凭一己之力搞死了Linux，而且Linux再也没有恢复过来

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>>109399676

Doesn't he have AIDS or something?

他是不是得了艾滋病之类的病？

>>109399681

Dunno, but he lost 10s of millions of dollars in crypto and feel into a deep depression

不知道，但他加密货币亏了上千万美元，陷入重度抑郁

Just for the sake of argument how the whole "linux is free, if you don't value your time" one is anymore valid? Heck, even in the beginning there were justwerk distros (Mandrake Linux) you could simply use without bothering about what's under the hood.

退一步说，“Linux 是免费的，前提是你不看重你的时间”这种说法现在还有道理吗？搞笑了，哪怕一开始就有像 Mandrake Linux 这样的“开箱即用”发行版，你根本不用去管底层的东西。

>inb4 hw compatibility issues/problems

>inb4（我知道你要说）硬件兼容性问题/故障

Was pretty much solved when livecd where introduced, since then you could simply boot linux from ram and see if installing it on that machine was even worth the effort.

在引入 LiveCD 后这个问题基本就解决了，从那以后你可以直接从内存启动 Linux，看看在这台机器上安装它是否值得付出努力。

>inb4 using the program XY is a pain/impossibility

>inb4（我知道你要说）使用 XY 程序很痛苦/不可能

Again, livecd to test if possible and if reasonable. Then again that's another issue altogether: if you NEED to use a specific tool then the OS underneath is just a forethought, one should simply follow the path of lest resistance for it, doing the opposite is mental retardation on the user part, not an issue inherent of the linux experience.

同样，用 LiveCD 测试一下是否可行以及是否合理。不过话说回来，这是另一个层面的问题：如果你必须使用某个特定工具，那么底层操作系统只是个先决条件，你应该选择阻力最小的路径，反过来做纯属用户自己脑子有问题，而不是 Linux 体验本身的问题。

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>>109400542

>muh livecd

>muh liveCD（我知道你要提 LiveCD）

especially with your description of it, it only potentially reduces wasted time if you happen to find an issue, but also adds the risk of wasting even more time if the "live testing" didn't catch some issue before committing to a full installation

尤其是鉴于你的描述，它只在偶然发现问题时可能减少浪费的时间，但如果“Live 测试”在决定完整安装前没抓住某些问题，反而会增加浪费时间更多风险

>>109400687

>especially with your description of it, it only potentially reduces wasted time

>尤其是鉴于你的描述，它只在偶然发现问题时可能减少浪费的时间

..yes? Of course if you frame it like you're going to fail unequivocally at the end then ofc it's "time wasted" but you're using a logical fallacy here.

……对？当然，如果你把它描述成你最终肯定会失败，那当然算是“浪费时间”，但你在这里用了逻辑谬误。

>if you happen to find an issue, but also adds the risk of wasting even more time if the "live testing" didn't catch some issue before committing to a full installation

>如果偶然发现问题，但如果“Live 测试”在决定完整安装前没抓住某些问题，反而会增加浪费时间更多风险

If you're already at the physical installation phase i would assume you already probed the system enough to gauge if any potential, unforseen setbacks are offset by the advantages you met.

如果你已经到物理安装阶段了，我猜你已经充分探测过系统，足以判断潜在、不可预见的挫折是否被你所获得的收益所抵消。

>>109400542

livecd is slow as molasses

LiveCD 慢得像糖浆

>>109399676

>>109400542

I've never understood the 'if you don't value your free time' meme. I installed linux and I had to do less work to make it less shit than I do on windows.

我一直不懂那个“如果你不看重你的空闲时间”的梗。我装了 Linux，结果发现让它变得比 Windows 没那么烂所花的工作量，比我平时做的还少。

My friends are all retards though so when I gave htem linux they bitch and moan

不过我的朋友们都是蠢货，所以我给他们装了 Linux 后，他们就开始抱怨个没完

>>109399676

>2 years ago

>2 年前

bro.... hopefully you don't use a 2024 distro, do you?

哥们儿……希望你没用 2024 年的发行版吧？

>>109400817

>7,305 views Mar 24, 2019

>7,305 次观看 2019 年 3 月 24 日

lol lmao

哈哈哈 笑死

>>109399676

His argument was terrible too. He's talking about Photoshop and Adobe products as if that's something a programmer actually uses regularly. If you're working for an even remotely competent company the programmers will never ever touch anything related to graphic design.

他的论点也很烂。他谈 Photoshop 和 Adobe 产品，就好像程序员真的经常用这些东西似的。如果你在任何一家稍微有点能力的公司工作，程序员们永远不会碰任何跟图形设计相关的东西。

>>109399676

>This guy (as a Millionaire) single-handedly killed linux and it never recovered

>这家伙（作为一个百万富翁）凭一己之力搞死了 Linux，而且 Linux 再也恢复不了

FTFY

>>109399676

>Being homeless and broke (as a (former) millionaire)

>（前）百万富翁现在却无家可归、身无分文

>>109399676

Why would you dual-boot Linux when you could just install Linux as your only OS?

既然可以直接把 Linux 作为唯一操作系统安装，为什么还要双系统启动 Linux 呢？

>>109400856

>Photoshop and Adobe products

>Photoshop 和 Adobe 产品

And Adobe is hemorrhaging users now anyway because everyone complains about their service model.

而且 Adobe 现在用户流失严重，因为大家都抱怨它的服务模式。

Yes, you can replace everything in the Adobe suite, so long as you choose try to learn it.

是的，你可以用其他软件替换 Adobe 全家桶，只要你愿意花时间去学习它们。

>>109400856

>programmers only program and nothing else

>程序员只管写代码，其他什么都不干

That said, adobe products are INSANELY overrated.

话说回来，Adobe 的产品被严重高估了。

>>109399676

A guy who can't keep a wife can't keep an OS running either? whoa.

连老婆都留不住的家伙，也留不住操作系统？哇哦。

>>109399676

AS AN EX-HUSBAND EX-GOOGLE EX-FACEBOOK EX-MILLIONAIRE

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>>109400542

windows wastes way more of your time nowadays, if you disagree with it in any way.

现在的 Windows 只要你敢对它有半点不满，就会浪费你大把时间。

disable telemetry, change ui, change settings, have it undone every update.

关闭遥测，更改 UI，调整设置，结果每次更新全被还原。

linux setup is done once and works from that point on.

Linux 只需设置一次，从此之后就能一直正常运行。

>>109402131

Not only that, you can even leave the most basic bitch vanilla, turboaids configuration and yet windows can still fuck your shit up if you leave windows update free to upgrade your drivers.

不仅如此，即使你连最基础的“裸机” vanilla 配置、turboaids 都没装，如果你放任 Windows 更新自由升级驱动，它依然能把你的系统搞崩。

>inb4 that's the hw vendor fault

>先声明这是硬件厂商的锅

Maybe but, if that's the case, the same can be argued for linux hw problems

也许吧，但如果是这样，Linux 的硬件问题也能这么解释。

>>109399676

isn't that a satirical channel? I always thought hes is being sarcastic in every single sentence

这不是个讽刺频道吗？我一直以为他每句话都在反讽。

>>109399772

What a waste of time

真是浪费生命

>>109399676

your wife is being fucked by a black man. lmao.

你老婆正被一个黑人干呢。哈哈哈。

>>109402171

never had an issue, windows 11 just works

我从来没出过问题，Win11 就是好用

>>109400794

it's your base premise that is fallacious

你的基本前提就是有漏洞的

people who do not want to waste time will typically not want to waste any time at all, not "waste some time but not too much"

不想浪费时间的人，通常根本不想浪费任何时间，而不是“浪费点时间但别太多”

"potentially reducing wasted time" (the best case scenario) is still in no way good, compared to guaranteed not wasting any time at all

“潜在减少浪费时间”（最好的情况）跟完全不浪费任何时间相比，依然算不上好

I use Windows 11 because I like Windows 11. That being said I tried Bazzite with KDE Plasma and it's fine. The closest thing I could call a Windows replacement if I ever found one. It is cohesive and elegant. There are other distros out there that attempt this but don't go far enough in this direction. I feel like the way Bazzite handles things is going to be the future of Linux where we have nice little GUI things that handle things for us, the core repos handle the OS and OS components, and whatever it uses for the applications is what it is. I like Bazaar. I liked how it felt good the entire time I used it. It's only downfall for me was how quickly things became unstable and started to exhibit bugs and crashed on me. If we can figure this out, the future of Linux desktop will be something like Bazzite and less like Arch.

我用 Win11 是因为我喜欢 Win11。话说回来，我试过带 KDE Plasma 的 Bazzite，感觉还不错。如果真要找一个 Windows 替代品，它是最接近的。它很统一且优雅。还有其他发行版也试图这样做，但在这方面走得不够远。我觉得 Bazzite 的处理方式是 Linux 的未来：拥有漂亮易用的图形界面来处理日常事务，核心仓库管理操作系统和组件，应用层则随它去。我喜欢 Bazzite。使用时的体验很棒。它唯一的缺点就是系统很快变得不稳定，开始出现 Bug 和崩溃。如果能解决这个问题，Linux 桌面未来的形态会是 Bazzite 这样，而不是像 Arch 那样。

coffeezilla won

Coffeezilla 赢了

Nagger

>>109405161

I'm assuming that if you're interested in looking up linux you're already prone, using the proper term, to "invest" time on it.

我猜你既然有兴趣去查 Linux，那用个专业点的说法，你本来就愿意“投入”时间在这上面。

Using a live-system simply makes you more efficient in the evaluation process because you don't need to set a spare device nor you need to alter (or lose) your already set workstation, you don't need to make adjustments for it (just plug the device and boot the machine) and you can even brutally stop the process at any moment without issues (the system is loaded in ram so whatever). It's pretty much the equivalent of browsing a device put for showcase in a store, with the added benefit you can fiddle with it more at your leisure.

使用 Live 系统只是让你在评估过程中更高效，因为你不需要准备备用设备，也不用改动（或搞丢）你现有的工作站，更不用为了它做额外调整（插上设备启动就行），而且你随时可以粗暴地中止过程，不会有任何问题（系统加载在内存里，爱咋咋地）。这 basically 就像在商店里浏览展示样机，只不过你还能更自由地折腾它。

>>109399676

>The OS with modern tools, optimizations and QoL features (Windows is still just spaghetti code on top of nearly 30 year old NT), that has a design philosophy that is very compatible with automation and instructing new users (CLI just werks) somehow wastes your time even though you need to learn and use Linux tools with WSL2 or similar software anyway if you use Windows or MacOS

>那些拥有现代工具、优化和生活质量功能（Windows 不过是建立在近 30 年老 NT 内核上的一坨意大利面条代码）、设计理念非常兼容自动化且适合指导新手的操作系统（命令行就是好用），居然还浪费你的时间，尽管如果你用 Windows 或 MacOS，你反正也得通过 WSL2 之类的软件去学习和使用 Linux 工具

Linux is the only viable OS if you value your time.

如果你珍惜时间，Linux 是唯一可行的操作系统。

MacOS users educated in using the proprietary workflow of Adobe or whatever their sabotage student license software of choice was, have a gimped and decaying skillset that will sooner see them unemployed than adapting when their software decides to drop necessary features.

那些习惯了 Adobe 专有工作流或其他某款被砍了学生授权软件的用户，他们的技能树是残缺且日渐腐朽的，一旦他们常用的软件决定砍掉必要功能，这些人很快就会失业而不是去适应。

>>109405101

And i never had an issue with linux, that doesn't mean edge cases don't exist, my observation is that, usually, on linux you're looking for troubles (the whole endeavor of slapping a third part os on a oem machine shipped with windows obviously comes with facing unforeseen issues) and with windows you get troubles even if you're minding your own business without touching shit.

而且我从没遇到过 Linux 的问题，但这不代表边缘情况不存在。我的观察是，通常在 Linux 上你是自找麻烦（把第三方系统装到原厂预装 Windows 的 OEM 机器上，显然会面临各种预料之外的问题），而在 Windows 上，哪怕你什么都不碰、各干各的，麻烦也会找上门。

>>109408406

you're making the wrong assumption so I'm not going to bother reading the rest of your post

你的假设就是错的，所以我懒得继续看你剩下的帖子

>>109399676

>your brain on snailcat

>你的大脑在处理 Snailcat 时

the snailcat memmie is so true.

snailcat 这个梗图太真实了。

>>109400856

I've mostly migrated to free software for most productivity software, but I know a few gamedevs who got stuck on photoshop and are having some difficulty moving away

我大部分生产力软件都迁移到免费软件了，但我认识几个做游戏开发的，还死磕在 Photoshop 上，迁移起来有些吃力

but more to the point, it's 2026 and there's still nothing half as good as visual studio for c/c++ on linux. it can be done, and I've done it for work as well, but it's a pain in the ass compared to windows. I think people who've programmed c in linux all their lives can't even comprehend what they're missing

但更关键的是，都 2026 年了，Linux 上还是没有哪个 C/C++ IDE 能勉强比得上 Visual Studio。虽然能做到，我也在工作中这么干过，但比起 Windows 真是痛不欲生。我觉得那些一辈子在 Linux 上写 C 的人甚至都无法想象他们错过了什么

>>109408834

clion works on linux anon...

CLion 在 Linux 上也能用啊匿名者...

>>109408864

not as good. wish it was. so many nits to pick

没 VS 好。希望有。槽点太多了

>>109408743

Why is it a wrong assumption? It's not like anyone would even bother to check linux out of the blue.

为什么说是错误的假设？反正也没人会突然心血来潮去试 Linux 吧。

>>109408878

maybe, personally i moved to emacs and i am happy

也许吧，我个人换成了 Emacs，挺开心的

huge timesink thoughbeit

不过就是个巨大的时间黑洞

>>109408890

>Why is it a wrong assumption?

>为什么说是错误的假设？

I am not interested in Linux, I am interested in my software working and getting work done without impediments

我对 Linux 没兴趣，我感兴趣的是我的软件能正常工作，我能顺顺当当干活不受阻碍

>>109399676

>refuses to use linux

>拒绝使用 Linux

>wife divorces him and goes back to glorious nippon

>老婆跟他离婚，回归了光辉灿烂的日本

I see a pattern.

我看出个模式。

>>109410314

>Has a job

>有份工作

>Had a job

>曾有过工作

>Has a wife

>有老婆

>Had a wife

>曾有过老婆

>Has a million

>有百万身家

>Had a million

>曾有过百万身家

>Has a house

>有房子

>Had a house

>曾有过房子

There might just be a pattern here.

这里可能真有个模式。

>>109399676

>NOOOOO DONT DO THINGS

>ONLY WATCH ME

>DO NOTHING ELSE

>ONLY WATCH ME

>PLEASE GOD

>I NEED THE AD REVENUE

What a faggot.

真是个傻逼。

>>109410420

The pattern is he acts like he's Israeli Zionist Jewish instead of a true Japanese.

这模式就是他装得像以色列犹太复国主义者，而不是真正的日本人。

Imagine how much better his life would be if he did from the start.

想象一下，如果他一开始就这样，生活会有多好。

>gomenasai viewers, I've not been uploading lately.

>对不起观众，我最近没怎么更新。

>I have been practicing my Japanese, both Kanji and the Osaka dialect

>我一直在练习日语，包括汉字和大阪腔

>My wife, baby and I own several kimonos, which we wear around silicon valley.

>我老婆、孩子和我拥有好几件和服，我们在硅谷穿着它们到处晃。

>I bow to my elders and speak Japanese as often as I can, but rarely does anyone here respond.

>我向长辈鞠躬，尽可能多说日语，但几乎没人回应。

>Wish me luck at this big tech corp!

>祝我在大型科技公司好运！

He could have had it all, and now he has nothing but a bunch of ESL phoneshitter viewers worshipping him and trying to act like he does.

他本可以拥有一切，现在却一无所有，只剩下一群说英语像屎一样的观众崇拜他，并试图模仿他。

>>109399676

only reason i dual boot, is because installing mods for games on linux is a pain the ass.

我双系统启动的唯一原因是，在Linux上安装游戏模组简直是屁股上的痛。