God I wish I can get into it but there's barely anything going on there. Recommend me some active IRC channels or servers.
天哪，我好希望能加入进来，但那里面几乎没什么动静。给我推荐一些活跃的IRC频道或服务器吧。
God I wish I can get into it but there's barely anything going on there. Recommend me some active IRC channels or servers.
天哪，我好希望能加入进来，但那里面几乎没什么动静。给我推荐一些活跃的IRC频道或服务器吧。
stop believing chat rooms are communities
别再觉得聊天室就是社区了。
>>109393079
I mean it's just a filename but I don't see why a chatroom can't also have a community. Though that's besides the point.
我是说，就算只是个文件名，我也不明白为什么聊天室不能也算作一个社区。不过这都不重要啦。
Man, irc, that brings back some memories. That's like 20-25 years ago. Use to be on dalnet 6-8 hours a day. I still have chat logs. It was a thing when mircx came . Got DoS attack so hard it all disappeared. It's a pity,it was a lot of fun. Everyone got old,started families, moved on . Haven't been on a server for over 12 years i think. Changed comp and never reinstalled it.
哇，IRC，真是勾起了一堆回忆啊。那都是20到25年前的事了。以前我一天在dalnet上泡6到8个小时。现在我还留着聊天记录。那时候mIRCx刚出来的时候特别火。结果遭到了猛烈的DDoS攻击，一切都没了。真是可惜，那会儿真的挺好玩的。大家都老了，组建家庭，各奔东西。我想我有超过12年没上过服务器了。换了电脑后就没再重装过。
>>109393142
Yeah, I hear a lot that it's a really old protocol I think even existed before the world wide web. Some websites still use it and have an IRC channel but no one's in them whenever I join.
是啊，我常听说这是个非常古老的协议，甚至早于万维网存在。虽然有些网站还用IRC并设有频道，但我每次进去都发现没人。
I get that it's a thing for it's time but I really wanna escape big mainstream chat services like Discord and Telegram and IRC is brought up the most as a decentralized alternative.
我懂那是那个时代的事物，但我真的想逃离像Discord和Telegram这样的大众主流聊天服务，而IRC经常被提及作为去中心化的替代方案。
I might just be chasing for a community that doesn't exist anymore. If only I could've been there when it was in it's prime.
我可能只是在追逐一个已经不存在的社区。要是当年它能处于鼎盛时期就好了。
If that's the case, I guess this thread can also act as a nostalgic throwback to share old stories about people's experiences with IRC.
如果真是这样，那这个帖子也可以作为怀旧专场，分享大家以前用IRC的经历和故事。
>>109393061
boy, I sure love how irc exposes your ip address by default.
哎呀，我真“喜欢”IRC默认就暴露你的IP地址这一点。
if you don't want this, make sure to jump through hoops such as vhost and also take care it doesn't fall off during an automatic reconnect.
如果你不想这样，就得忙活半天搞什么vhost，还得小心它在自动重连时掉链子。
IRC is /g/'s Quake 3 Arena. LARPing pseudonerds using legacy software for nothing more than e-cred.
IRC就是/g/版版的《雷神之锤3竞技场》。一群用着过时软件的伪极客在装模作样，纯粹为了那点网络声望。
Grow up. If you use IRC, fine, but pining for it is fucking gay.
成熟点吧。用IRC没问题，但在那儿矫情地怀旧真是他妈的恶心。
>>109393247
The way you use IRC Falls on you. Practice good Opsec. Some IRC servers support TOR or VPN's. Use a lightweight and reputable client. At least it's your fault if your IP gets exposed instead of being forced to use services that force you to do so.
怎么用IRC是你自己的事。做好安全操行（Opsec）。有些IRC服务器支持TOR或VPN。用个轻量级且信誉好的客户端。至少IP泄露了是你自己的错，而不是被迫使用那些强制泄露你信息的服务。
>>109393249
I'm sure there's probably some stereotypefag I fall under on this board but I find it harder to use more popular alternatives because I can't do so without escaping surveillance and telemetry practices. Have people really shilled IRC on this board that much?
我确信在这个版里我肯定被贴上了某种刻板印象的标签，但我发现很难用那些更流行的替代品，因为不用它们我就没法避开监控和数据收集实践。你们在这个版里真的疯狂吹捧IRC这么多次了吗？
>>109393228
cant use discord every account i make tells me to use link a phonenumber and i cant even use the same phonenumber on more than 1 account. Also, I almost got doxxed on there once.
没法用Discord，我每注册一个号它都让我绑定手机号，而且一个手机号还不能关联多个账号。而且我差点在那儿被人人肉搜索。
>>109393279
>I find it harder to use more popular alternatives because I can't do so without escaping surveillance and telemetry practices.
>我发现很难用那些更流行的替代品，因为不用它们我就没法避开监控和数据收集实践。
IRC
IS
LESS
SECURE
YOU
RETARD
>>109393361
theres a difference between security and privacy. Again like i said in >>109393279 if you're careful with how you configure IRC, you can use it without your IP getting exposed. I'm okay if chat logs being collected, but not with companies building a profile on me.
安全和隐私是有区别的。再说一次，就像我在>>109393279里说的，如果你仔细配置IRC，就可以在不暴露IP的情况下使用它。聊天记录被收集我可以接受，但我不想让公司给我建立用户画像。
>>109393247
>I sure love how irc exposes your ip address by default
>我真“喜欢”IRC默认就暴露你的IP地址这一点
Rizon doesn't do that lol wtf are you talking about?
Rizon可不这么干，哈哈。你在说什么鬼话？
>>109393214
It's pretty old, i started using it '97-'98 till '06-'07. Then sporadically, last time round '16-'17 i think.
挺老的一个东西了，我从97-98年开始用，一直用到06-07年。之后断断续续用的，上一次大概是16-17年左右吧。
About privacy and surveillance, i certainly would not use irc for that. Times have changed. What do you think all those data centers are built for? Everything is logged, every word,every sound, every picture, everything . You don't hide anything anymore. . Leave the phone home and go for a walk with friends to have private conversations.
至于隐私和监控，我肯定不用IRC搞这个。时代变了。你以为那些数据中心都是拿来干嘛的？一切都会有日志记录，每一句话、每一个声音、每一张图片，什么都逃不掉。你现在什么都藏不住了。想私密聊天？把手机扔家里，跟朋友出去散步聊吧。
>>109393061
you better watch out, those IRC boomers can easily hack you the second you join their server.
你最好小心点，那些IRC老炮儿（boomers）你一进他们的服务器，分分钟就能黑了你。
they are brutal and look like pic related.
他们手段狠辣，长得就跟图里那样。
bph.pw
>>109393247
>boy, I sure love how irc exposes your ip address by default.
>兄弟，我真喜欢IRC默认就能暴露你IP地址这个特性。
that's not inherent to irc, the server decides what it exposes like any server
这不是IRC固有的特性，服务器就像任何其他服务器一样，决定它暴露什么。
>>109397067
on most irc servers, you are seen to other users as something like
在大多数IRC服务器上，你对其他用户来说看起来像
anon123!anon@104-53-180-232.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net
>>109393061
#homescreen on rizon is usually pretty active imo
我觉得Rizon上的#homescreen还挺活跃的
>>109393249
or we're just people who have been using irc since the 90s and never left because there's no reason to. but then again, i still connect to old BBSes that were around in the 90s and run a MUD so what do i know?
或者我们只是那群从90年代起就用IRC、而且没离开过的人，因为没理由离开。不过话说回来，我还在连接90年代存在的老BBS，还在运行MUD，所以我懂啥啊？
>>109393696
>boomers
>irc
no. millennials? yes. but not boomers. they're still on dial-in BBSes or the handful of original BBSes that have added tcp/ip connecting.
不是。是千禧一代？对。但不是婴儿潮一代。他们还在用拨号BBS，或者那些接入了TCP/IP的少量原始BBS。
>>109393061
Can you join for free?
加入是免费的吗？
Can you send files or just text?
能发文件还是只能发文字？
Emojis?
Can you make calls or share screens?
能打电话或共享屏幕吗？
Can you send video?
能发视频吗？
Can you stream?
能直播吗？
Is it really fast or really secure?
它真的很快或者真的安全吗？
None of those are deal breakers, just asking.
这些都不算是致命缺点，只是问问而已。
>>109393061
Just idle like a normal IRC user.
就像正常的IRC用户那样挂着（idle）。
>>109398733
nta but...
NTA（你不是坏人）但是……
>Can you join for free?
>加入是免费的吗？
yes.
>Can you send files or just text?
>能发文件还是只能发文字？
You can send files. IRC DCC was one of the main ways pirating thrived in the 90s and early 2000s
能发文件。IRC的DCC协议是90年代和2000年代初盗版盛行的主要方式之一。
>Emojis?
yes.
>Can you make calls or share screens?
>能打电话或共享屏幕吗？
No.
>Can you send video?
>能发视频吗？
Not really. You can send video files over DCC but you can't video chat.
不太行。你可以通过DCC发送视频文件，但不能视频聊天。
>Can you stream?
>能直播吗？
No.
>Is it really fast or really secure?
>它真的很快或者真的安全吗？
Fast, yes. Secure depends on the server and your IRC client setup.
快是快。安全性取决于服务器和你的IRC客户端设置。
>>109393061
>the most active IRC channel in my country is #sex
>我们国家最活跃的IRC频道是#sex
>it's 30+ year old fags looking to suck dicks
>那是一群30多岁等着搞基的老同志
>>109398778
Thanks! Actually useful to know.
谢了！实际上很有用。
Final question, can I access IRC from a tor browser?
最后一个问题，我能用Tor浏览器访问IRC吗？
>>109399107
Link? ..f-for a friend.
链接？……给个朋友用的。
just run your own server and get your friends to join it thats what I did
自己搭个服务器，叫朋友们来连就行，我就是这样做的。
>>109399143
>8 AM on a workday
>工作日早上8点
>>109393249
I still play quake live because there is no alternative. I stopped using IRC ten years ago if not more because there is better alternatives. Chatting? Discord. Finding matchs or teams like back in the day on gamesurge or quakenet? Now games have matchmaking or there is special platforms like faceit. Sharing anime or movies? Torrent and Netflix.
我还在玩Quake Live，因为没有替代品。但我在十年前甚至更早就停用IRC了，因为有更好的选择。聊天？Discord。像当年在gamesurge或quakenet上找匹配或组队？现在游戏自带匹配系统，或者有faceit这样的专业平台。分享动漫或电影？Torrent和Netflix。
Not only IRC has become obsolete but also lost its substance.
IRC不仅变得过时了，也失去了它的实质内容。
>>109399224
Yummy!
>>109393061
>God I wish I can get into it but there's barely anything going on there.
>天啊，我真想加入，但那里几乎没什么动静。
cool story, bro.
好故事啊，兄弟。
>>109399232
>things that never happened
>从未发生过的事情
really cool story, bro. and then you discovered that your dad worked at nintendo and he's actually a woman. and other fantastic schizo tales. i'll be sure to pass on the info to the 5000+ people on this private IRC server i'm on, that IRC as an internet protocol doesn't exist anymore because pedophiles that use discord said so.
超酷的故事，哥们。然后你发现你爸在任天堂上班，而且他其实是个女的。还有其他一些绝妙的精神病人故事。我肯定会把这信息转发给我私底下那个IRC服务器上五千多号人，毕竟那个IRC作为互联网协议已经不存在了，因为用Discord的恋童癖们是这么说的。
>>109393061
i always wanted to be in a niche community or a secret club but i realize most people are lame faggots once you get to know them. Sometimes i day dream about starting my own secret club and inviting anons that are cool. We'd have a website that would be like our "club house" with a forum or image board for communication (NO live chatroom, that is lame and invites e-dating tier communication that not everyone can follow). We'd all have access to the server via our own user accounts and git so anyone could make improvements to the website code, and anyone could start new services to "improve the club house" so to speak. Maybe we'd do fun projects like start a collection of movies, music, e-books, leaked databases, cracked games, etc. Maybe we could setup a IPTV pirate stream that could could access via a "TV" tab on the website which you could also setup your own streams to watch movies together and whatnot. Maybe we'd program our own chan framework to have better performance & features than traditional chan frameworks. Maybe we'd eventually host free file servers & proxy servers for anyone to use. People would contribute what they felt like none of it would be forced.
我一直想加入某个小众圈子或者秘密俱乐部，但我发现一旦你熟悉了大多数人其实都是蠢货。有时候我会幻想自己建立一个秘密俱乐部，邀请那些不错的匿名者加入。我们会有一个像“俱乐部会所”一样的网站，附带论坛或图板进行交流（绝对不要实时聊天室，那太蠢了，只会引来那种低级约炮式的交流，不是谁都能跟上节奏的）。我们都会通过自己的用户账号和Git访问服务器，这样任何人都能对网站代码做出改进，也可以启动新服务来“完善俱乐部会所”。也许我们会搞些有趣的项目，比如建立一个电影、音乐、电子书、泄露数据库、破解游戏等的合集。也许我们可以搭建一个IPTV盗版直播流，通过网站上的“电视”标签访问，你还可以在那里设置自己的流媒体一起看电影之类的。也许我们会自己开发一套chan框架，拥有比传统chan框架更好的性能和功能。也许最终我们会提供免费的文件服务器和代理服务器供任何人使用。人们会凭意愿贡献，没有任何强制。
But then alas i wake up and realize this is a pretty cringe idea and nobody would bond over this "club house" in the way i imagine and of course nobody would want to contribute this amount of work either. It would just go the way of every other /g/ project ever which went stale after someone made the logo, and nobody would ever post or say anything except for performative shit like on private tracker forums. Oh well.
但唉，我醒来发现这想法挺尴尬的，没人会像我想象的那样通过这个“俱乐部会所”建立联系，当然也没人愿意投入这么多精力。这最终会像每一个/g/上的项目一样，有人做了个Logo后就石沉大海，除了像私有Tracker论坛那样刷存在感的行为外，没人发帖或说话。算了。
>>109400610
>5000+ people
>五千多号人
Lmao. This is nothing. At its peak, quakenet had 250 000 connected users and there was 100x less internet users in the world back then. How many are bots or bouncers now? IRC is dead. The discord server of something like marvel rivals has one million connected users.
笑死。这不算什么。巅峰时期，QuakeNet有25万在线用户，而当时全球互联网用户数量是现在的100分之一。现在有多少是机器人或BNC？IRC已死。像《漫威争锋》这样的Discord服务器就有100万在线用户。
>>109399128
nta but it depends on the server. The servers can see if you are connecting from a Tor exit node and it's not uncommon for them to block the connection when they do. There are however plenty of servers that allow Tor connections through onion links. If they do they probably say so on their website. Smaller to medium-sized tech and privacy focused servers would be a good place to start.
你没错，但这取决于服务器。服务器可以检测到你是否从Tor出口节点连接，遇到这种情况时屏蔽连接并不罕见。然而有很多服务器允许通过洋葱链接进行Tor连接。如果他们允许的话，通常会在网站上说明。中小型、注重技术和隐私的服务器是个不错的好去处。
so yes but not all servers
所以是的，但不是所有服务器
>>109393247
>retard doesn't know about bouncers
>蠢货不知道BNC（IRC中继）
>retard doesn't know they're piss-easy to run one.
>蠢货不知道搭建一个BNC简直易如反掌。
>>109393300
>Also, I almost got doxxed on there once.
>还有，我有一次差点被肉搜到。
How stupid do you have to be to "almost" get doxxed on Disord, of all places?
你得多蠢才能在Discord上“差点”被肉搜到？
>>109393361
YOU
CAN
RUN
YOUR
OWN
IRC
SERVER
YOU
RETARD
>>109394226
fuck off we're full
滚蛋，我们已经满了
>>109398733
>Can you join for free?
>加入是免费的吗？
Yes.
>Can you send files or just text?
>能发文件还是只能发文字？
Yes.
>Emojis?
Yes.
>Can you make calls or share screens?
>能打电话或共享屏幕吗？
No. You don't need to.
不。你不需要这么做。
>Can you send video?
>能发视频吗？
Yes. Links are all you need.
是的。只要有链接就足够了。
>Can you stream?
>能直播吗？
No. You don't need to.
不。你不需要这么做。
>Is it really fast or really secure?
>它真的很快或者真的安全吗？
Yes.
>>109400961
>i always wanted to be in a niche community or a secret club but i realize most people are lame faggots once you get to know them.
>我一直想加入一个小众社区或秘密俱乐部，但我意识到一旦了解他们，大多数人都是令人作呕的废柴。
Who, in your opinoin, would qualify as someone who's not a "lame faggot"?
你认为谁 qualifies 成为那个不是“令人作呕的废柴”的人？
>NO live chatroom, that is lame and invites e-dating tier communication that not everyone can follow
>没有实时聊天室，这很烂，会引来那种人人都未必能跟上的“电子约会级”交流
Disagree. A chat is a good place to start. If the people in the chat aren't "lame faggots," then you wouldn't have the "e-dating tier communication" problem.
不同意。聊天室是个很好的起点。如果聊天室里的人不是“令人作呕的废柴”，那你就不会遇到那种“电子约会级交流”的问题。
>We'd all have access to the server via our own user accounts and git so anyone could make improvements to the website code, and anyone could start new services to "improve the club house" so to speak.
>我们都会通过自己的用户账号和 git 访问服务器，所以任何人都可以对网站代码进行改进，任何人都可以启动新的服务来“改善这个俱乐部之家”之类的。
I'm in plenty of these "clubhouses," and the "services" have always been gay and unnecessary. Most people use chat, and that's where everything happens.
我加入过不少这种“俱乐部之家”，那些“服务”总是显得 gay 且多余。大多数人都只用聊天，所有事情也都在聊天里发生。
>>109401945
ah yes, rent a server and set up a bouncer, real easy and free! (not)
啊对，租个服务器再装个 bouncer，简直太容易也太便宜了！（才怪）
>>109402018
>real easy and free! (not)
>太容易也太便宜了！（才怪）
It is easy. Your skill issue is not our problem.
这很简单。你的技能问题不是我们的问题。
>>109402716
in this case, it's your bullshit issue, not my skill issue.
在这种情况下，是你的扯淡问题，不是我的技能问题。
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