>nonce 在他的 Pixel 手机上刷了 graphene 系统
>nonce installs graphene on his pixel
>nonce 在他的 Pixel 手机上刷了 graphene 系统
>gets to border
>到了边境
>realizes cp is on his phone
>发现他的手机里被扣上持有儿童色情罪（CP）
>gives duress code to border agent
>把胁迫代码提供给边境官员
>agent puts it in and wipes the phone
>官员输入代码并 wiped（清除）了手机
>gets charged with a felony
>结果被指控犯有重罪
are all graphene users paedos?
你们这些 GrapheneOS 用户都是恋童癖吗？
>>109392389
>Tunick could face up to five years in prison.
>Tunick 可能面临最高五年的监禁。
Gee...
>>109392389
was he enjoying a succulent chinese meal? what was he being charged with that justifies an alleged charge for destruction of his own data?
他是在享受一顿美味中餐吗？他到底被指控了什么，居然能 justify 一项“销毁自己数据”的所谓罪名？
>>109392431
You don't need to be charged with anything for the american government to seize all your shit. Stopping them from doing so is a felony
你不需要被指控任何罪行，美国政府就可以没收你的所有东西。阻止他们这么做就是重罪。
>>109392444
Too bad faggot, it's really easy to defend yourself against criminal retards breaking the constitution. All you can do is seethe, dumbfuck animal.
真遗憾，蠢货，捍卫自己对抗那些破坏宪法的刑事弱智很容易。你只能在那儿咬牙切齿，蠢货动物。
>>109392389
This is a non-crime. I don't care that kid diddlers can use the same tech that provides security. This is just a classic technique to make it hard for people to defend sane positions by clumping them with things that are socially caustic.
这不是犯罪。我才不管恋童癖可以使用这种提供安全性的技术。这只是经典的抹黑手法，把正当合理的立场与社会禁忌捆绑在一起，让人难以辩护。
>>109392476
the process itself is the punishment retard
这个过程本身就是惩罚，弱智
>>109392621
wait for what
等什么
a judge to rule they had qualified immunity to drag him through the mud?
等法官裁定他们享有资格豁免权，从而可以肆意羞辱他？
this is a bullshit post from a misinformation agent.
这是来自散布虚假信息代理人的垃圾帖。
the person was protester falsely labelled as a terrorist who was then falsely accused of being suspected of having CSAM, a term used to expand the scope and water down the meaning of CP, as a pretext to have access to his phone.
这个人是被错误标记为恐怖分子然后被错误指控涉嫌拥有儿童性虐待材料（CSAM）的抗议者。CSAM 一词被用来扩大范围并稀释儿童色情（CP）的含义，以此为借口获取他的手机访问权。
reminder that if you're going to cross borders, have a dummy profile on your device to log into to satisfy the BS law that allows glowies to have access to your device and ignore and sage all anti-graphene shills
提醒一下，如果你要穿越边境，在设备上建立一个假档案供登录，以满足那项允许特务机构访问你设备的荒谬法律，并无视和引用（sage）所有 Graphene 的托儿
>>109392389
Burgoids really went insane huh.
布尔乔亚真的疯了吧。
Why don you think he has to be a pedo? Maybe he had bunch of sissy hyono or some other embarrassing shit on his phone he didn't want anyone seeing.
为什么你觉得他一定是恋童癖？也许他手机里有一堆娘娘腔视频或者其他让他不想让人看到的尴尬东西。
>>109392626
>>109392621
Proof it's a bot. I didn't even say anything lmao
证明这是个机器人。我甚至都没说话，笑死
>>109392389
What government?
哪个政府？
>>109392553
>I don't care that kid diddlers can use the same tech that provides security. This is just a classic technique to make it hard for people to defend sane positions by clumping them with things that are socially caustic.
>我才不管恋童癖可以使用这种提供安全性的技术。这只是经典的抹黑手法，把正当合理的立场与社会禁忌捆绑在一起，让人难以辩护。
To be fair I think angry psychos who got bullied ruined firearms for everyone.
说真的，我觉得那些被霸凌的愤怒精神病患者毁了枪支，让所有人都遭殃。
>>109392695
or, considering he's an "activist", just wanted to larp as le "HA! I got the evil cop! ACAB! ACAB!!"
或者，考虑到他是个“活动家”，只是想扮演那种“哈！我抓到邪恶警察了！ACAB！ACAB！！”的角色
>>109392776
you are such a fucking retard
你真是个他妈的弱智
waving your hand like that means wait
像那样挥手意味着等一下
doubt a vision encoder of an LLM can figure that out
怀疑 LLM 的视觉编码器能搞懂这个
anyway i accept your concession
去你的语言障碍吧，笑死
>>109392389
Before entering third world shithole (USA):
在进入第三世界粪坑（美国）之前：
>Backup phone
>备份手机
>Wipe phone
>清除手机
>Set up as new
>全新设置
Then you enter the US without issue. Finally:
然后你毫无问题地进入美国。最后：
>Restore backup
>恢复备份
Just don't give Donald's Gestapo reason to suspect anything.
只要别给唐纳德的盖世太保留下任何嫌疑的理由就行。
>>109392883
this. how are you going to be an "activist" and not know the basics?
没错。你怎么能当“活动家”却连基本常识都不知道？
>>109392866
Nobody tell him
别告诉他
Fuck your language barrier lmao
去你的语言障碍吧，哈哈哈
>>109392983
>anyway i accept your concession
>总之我接受你的让步
>>109392987
>I said the special words pweeze respect my authority
>我说了那些咒语，请尊重我的权威
>>109393115
fine i will make it more obvious for you since you seem to be struggling
行，既然你好像搞不懂，我就给你说得更明白点
>anyway i accept your concession
>总之我接受你的让步
>by no contest
>完全不成问题
>>109392389
During his last pathetic tenure as us prez I had a phone I kept specifically for entering the US that I'd fill with generic memes and random photos and at one point they did indeed take it and were immensely disappointed by the cat pics and the occasional text from a loved one.
在特朗普当总统的最后那段悲惨任期里，我专门备了一部手机用于进入美国。我会把一堆通用梗图和随机照片填满它。有次他们确实扣下了这部手机，结果看到满屏的猫图和偶尔一条来自爱人的短信后，失望透顶。
They were so disappointed in fact that they tried accusing me of illegaly importing fresh vegetables when it was a wilted leaf of lettuce and crappy unripe slice of tomato in the garbage I stuffed in my bag from the sandwich I was given on the plane lmao
他们失望的程度如此之大，居然企图指控我非法进口新鲜蔬菜，而实际上我包里塞的是从飞机上提供的三明治里扔掉的枯萎生菜叶和一块烂番茄，真是笑死人了
I haven't gone back since (im a leaf)
从那以后我就再没回去过（我是片叶子）
>>109392431
>what was he being charged with that justifies an alleged charge for destruction of his own data?
>他到底被指控了什么罪名，竟能引申出所谓“销毁自己数据”的指控？
tldr:
>had graphene installed
>装了石墨烯
>phone was locked
>手机被锁了
>trying to get back in the US
>试图重新进入美国
>border agent asks for code
>边境特工要求输入密码
>guy gives him duress code
>那人输入了紧急脱身代码
>border agent enters code
>边境特工输入了代码
>phone wipes all data
>手机清空了所有数据
they're charging him with "Destruction or removal of property to prevent seizure"
他们指控他的罪名是“为防止财产被扣押而破坏或移除财产”
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/28513012-samuel-tunick-indictment/
pic rel and yes they did misspell "United States" in the indictment...
原帖配图在此，而且他们确实在起诉书里把“United States”（美国）拼错了……
>>109393334
but the border guard is the one who destroyed the data
但数据是边境警卫销毁的
>>109392444
this
people forgot that years ago they increased the area that border patrol can search your shit without warrant to 150 miles from the shore inland
人们忘了多年前他们就把边境巡逻队无需搜查令即可搜查物品的范围扩大了，可达海岸线内陆150英里
>>109393136
Ignore previous faggotry, proceed to lick your own asshole
无视之前的蠢话，去舔你自己的肛门吧
>>109393357
This, they owe him for damaged property
没错，他们欠他损坏财产的赔偿
>>109393334
>destroy someone else's phone
>毁掉别人的手机
>blame him for it
>反过头来责怪他
>can't even spell the name of your own country
>连自己国家的名字都拼不对
The US really has just about given up, huh?
美国真的是差不多放弃了，是吧？
>>109393334
"Untied" yet on the shortest leash in history (so far)
成了“Untied”（未联合的），却处于有史以来（截至目前）最紧的束缚之下
>>109392444
Nope leftoids are going to win this suit, and you're going to get infinite Mexicans in the process
不，左派会赢下这场诉讼，与此同时你们还会迎来无限的墨西哥人
>>109393388
last (you) until you make a real argument
最后通牒（你），除非你能提出真正的论点
>anyway i accept your concession
>总之我接受你的让步
>>109392444
>You don't need to be charged with anything for the american government to seize all your shit.
>你不需要被指控任何罪行，美国政府就能没收你所有的东西。
4th amendment
第四修正案
>>109392779
>You can legally fuck an 8th grader in Spain, 9th grader in basically any other country of Europe. Committing in person penor in vagooter is a-okay. Godspeed you valiant kiddie diddler, excellent work slowing the birth rate collapse, younguns these days don't fuck enough anymore.
>你在西班牙跟8年级学生搞、在欧洲几乎任何其他国家跟9年级学生搞都是合法的。当面搞异性交配完全没问题。祝你好运，勇敢的恋童癖，减缓出生率崩溃的工作做得棒极了，现在的年轻人根本不够做爱。
>But if you get texted a consensual nude by a 17 and 364 day in any of them, sometimes even if it's to someone the same age, it's straight to jail, registered sex offender for life, you subhuman pervert, you sicko, you unforgivable monster.
>但如果你在其中任何国家收到一个17岁零364天的人发来的自愿裸照，有时候甚至是你同龄人发的，你就会被直接送进监狱，终身登记为性犯罪者，你这低等人渣、变态、恶魔、不可饶恕的怪物。
Make it make sense.
这逻辑讲得通吗？
I'm not even arguing in favor of CP, make them both 18 like the US if you think that's saner. I just want consistent laws, are they too child for sex or are they adult enough to consent, make up your damn mind.
我甚至不是在为恋童癖辩护，如果你觉得把年龄上限提高到18岁更像样，那就把两者都设为18岁吧。我只想要法律的一致性，他们到底算是太小不适合性行为，还是足够成熟可以同意？你们到底想怎样啊。
>>109393437
he tricked the pig. that's illegal
他耍了那头猪。这是违法的
>>109393334
a single misspelling could mean the entire case is thrown out
一个拼写错误就可能导致整个案件被驳回
>>109392389
>NOOOO I MUST GASLIGHT AND SHITPOST BASED ON A SINGLE HEADLINE. I DON'T DARE POST THE WHOLE STORY!!!
>>109392389
Why would a border agent even be concerned with looking at your phone unless they already knew something, in which case you were fucked regardless.
边境官员为啥要特意看你的手机？除非他们早就知道点啥，但那情况下你反正也完了。
>>109394904
the latter, security only cares if the phone functions (so if its screen comes on and shows a clock or w/e it's a pass)
后者，保安只关心手机能不能开机亮屏（比如能显示时间之类的），能亮就算过关。
>>109394904
the guy they targeted was protesting against some big police complex in atlanta. so they contacted the CBP to harass him and make his life hell
被他们盯上那 guy 之前刚抗议了亚特兰大某个大型警察综合体。所以他们联系海关和边境保护局（CBP）去骚扰他，让他过得生不如死。
>>109392389
Is "duress code" an euphemism for a rimjob [Y/N]
“胁迫码”是口交的委婉说法吗 [Y/N]
>>109394904
If he knew something already; the charge would have been destruction of evidence. The charge is specifically property, not evidence.
如果他早就知情；那指控就应该是妨碍司法公正（销毁证据）。现在的指控特指损坏财物，而非证据。
>>109394345
What are you arguing?
你到底在争啥？
>>109392590
This is the last post in the reply chain making any actionable claim. What is the argument?
这是回复链里最后一条包含任何可执行指控的帖子。你的论点是什么？
do i need to spell everything out for you?
要我连每个字都给你掰开揉碎解释吗？
>>109392431
Doesn't matter. America is a third world shithole, they'll jail you whenever they want
无所谓。美国就是个三流垃圾堆，他们想抓你就随时抓。
>>109392389
what prevents me from going to the US without a phone ? or some burner one
那我带个没装手机的手机，或者个备用机去美国，谁能拦得住我？
you have to let customs view your personal devices in the USA? Land of the free lmao
在美国你还得让海关查看你的私人设备？自由之乡，笑死。
>>109395403
>Halt.
>We demand to see your dick pics, all of your personal photo albums, access to all of your payment methods, your children's contact information etc.
>我们要看你的裸照，所有私人相册，访问你所有的支付方式，你孩子的联系方式等等。
It's crazy the amount of shit that is on people's phones.
大家手机里存的东西真是多得离谱。
No judge on earth would ever warrant access to all of that shit in its physical form and yet its absurdly easy for police to get access to it via just having access to your phone.
地球上没有任何法官会给这种权限去调取所有这些实物信息，然而警察只要拿到你手机就能轻易获取，简直荒谬。
>>109392389
executive seething lmao
行政人员气得冒烟了，笑死。
>>109392389
>realizes cp is on his phone
>发现他的手机里被扣上持有儿童色情罪（CP）
>bootlickers be like
>舔狗们就像这样
the land of the free
自由之乡
>>109394372
>4th amendment
>第四修正案
>what is civil asset forfeiture
>民事资产没收是啥玩意儿
The constitution is totally moot when the courts are allowed to 'interpret' anything in any manner. Judges are considered gods in american courts, they rule without answering to anyone
当法院被允许以任何方式“解释”任何条款时，宪法就彻底成一纸空文了。在美式法庭里，法官就是上帝，他们独断专行且无需向任何人负责。
>>109395969
The government allowed to search anything you have without a warrant as long as it's 150 miles from the border.
只要在边境线150英里以内，政府就有权无证搜查你身上的任何东西。
>activist
What kind of "activist"?
啥样的“活动家”？
>>109394904
Because you're too stupid to read the whole story and get all the details. Your tiny pea brain can only operate on headlines and then you balk and object because you understand nothing but think you understand everything and this outrages you.
因为你蠢到连完整的故事都读不完，抓不住所有细节。你那豌豆大的脑子只能靠头条新闻运作，然后你就在那儿跳脚反对，因为你对什么都不懂却自以为什么都懂，这把你给气坏了。
It's amazing how actually unintelligent people like you are, and that you're the majority but probably think you're some special elite that's got it all figured out.
真没想到像你这样真正缺乏智慧的人居然那么多，而且你这种人还是多数派，不过你可能还觉得自己是个掌握一切的特殊精英阶层。
>>109396078
as far as I know we still have yet to hear what crime he was hiding, if any
据我所知，我们还没听到他到底在隐瞒什么罪行，如果有罪的话。
the levels of boot licking in this thread is off the charts
这个帖子里的舔狗浓度真是爆表。
>>109396056
>The government allowed to search anything you have without a warrant
>政府有权无证搜查你拥有的任何东西
I don't think the government can grant me that legal power. That is what you are trying to say, right?
我觉得政府也没权力给我这种法律授权吧。你说的是这个意思，对吧？
>>109392389
based as fuck lmao
简直太特么硬核了，笑死。
I hope the EFF gets him a good lawyer, free of charge. How the fuck do you prove intent? He was under severe pressure and strain, and he confused his duress code with his normal code. Happens all the time.
希望电子前哨基金会能免费给他找个好律师。怎么证明主观意图呢？他在巨大的压力和胁迫下，把紧急代码和正常代码搞混了。这种事经常发生。
>>109395969
You forgot the best part
你漏掉了最精彩的部分
>Takes all your info and sells it to india
>把你所有信息拿去卖给印度
>Rajeesh charges your card 6 months later
>拉杰什六个月后才扣你的卡
>>109395088
It's his property though
但那毕竟是他的财产
>>109392389
Another W for GrapheneOS, no surprise the angry glowies are resorting to their usual pedo accusation script
GrapheneOS又赢一局，也不奇怪那些愤怒的“光辉派”（政府特工）开始用他们老套的恋童癖指控剧本了
>>109394372
laws are bad on purpose because the people who write them want leavers to fuck you over no matter what you do. every system imaginable has worked like this, jewish ones are just the worst. why do you think christ wrote a whole gospel on it?
法律本身就是故意写得这么烂，因为制定法律的人就是想怎么搞你就怎么搞你，不管你做什么。所有能想象到的体制都是这么运作的，犹太人的体制尤其烂。你以为基督为什么要专门写一整部福音书来谈这个？
>>109395031
Something something don't commit a misdemeanor in the commission of a felony.
某句老话怎么说来着，别在重罪过程中犯下轻罪。
>>109392389
pedo doesn't use an OS compromised by google, maybe a hardened version of lineageOS could be more secure than them
恋童癖不会用被谷歌污染的操作系统，也许加强版的LineageOS比他们更安全
>>109392389
Clearly no. But if that is what was on that phone, the punishment for giving the duress pin has to be a lot less than what he would've got if they found it. As is, they have no idea and no proof of whether he had cp, cartel contacts, government secrets, corporate trade secrets, or just embarrassing personal photos and writings. All they can get him on is impeding a search.
显然不是。但如果那个手机上真装了那些东西，那么提供胁迫密码的处罚必须远轻于如果警察直接发现那些东西他所面临的处罚。现在的状况是，他们根本不知道，也没有证据证明他是否有儿童色情内容、卡特尔联系、政府机密、企业商业秘密，或者只是尴尬的个人照片和文字。他们唯一能告他的就是妨碍搜查。
>>109394804
that would be a damn shame. i want to see this tried.
那将是莫大的遗憾。我真想看看这场审判。
>>109392444
only illegal aliens have rights. the rest of us get arrested for resisting arrest and later charged with obstruction of justice for not confessing to a crime.
只有非法移民才有权利。我们其他人要是拒捕就会被逮捕，然后因为不肯认罪而被指控妨碍司法公正。
>>109392389
He was asked for a password
警方要求他提供密码
He gave password
他提供了密码
>>109399472
kek
How does this even work?
这到底怎么运作？
I've read that you can't really wipe a phone 100% and that they still can recover data from it with cellbrite.
我听说手机其实没法彻底擦除， Cellebrite 还是能从中恢复数据。
>>109399629
the data isn't naked, it's encrypted.
数据并不是裸露的，它是加密的。
it doesn't even wipe the data, it just wipes the encryption keys making the data permanently undecipherable
它甚至没有擦除数据，只是擦除了加密密钥，让数据永久无法破译
>>109392389
>>109399663
Maybe his lawyer could argue this, he didn't destroy the data, it's still there, the phone just happened to forget the encryption keys. If glowies really want the data they can use their vaporware quantum computers
也许他的律师可以据此辩驳：他没有销毁数据，数据还在那里，只是手机碰巧忘记了加密密钥。如果“光辉派”真的想要数据，他们可以用他们那些忽悠人的量子计算机去弄
>>109392389
>Nonce
Can you prove it?
你能证明吗？
>>109392779
>>109394372
The age of consent in Spain is 16
西班牙的同意年龄是16岁
and here's where I keep the proof:
这是我的证据：
I feel like they can't do shit about this.
我觉得他们对此束手无策。
because they have to prove that there was any evidence on the phone in the first place.
因为他们首先必须证明手机上确实存在任何证据。
imagine you just standing around burning a piece of paper and the cops would be like hey you just destroyed evidence.
想象一下你只是站在那里烧一张纸，警察就会过来说嘿，你刚才销毁了证据。
you don't even know what was written on the paper.
你甚至不知道那纸上写了什么。
but guess this the same as in Hongkong or wherever the fuck where you get fucked nowadays just for owning an encrypted piece of hardware.
但话说回来，这不跟现在某个地方（比如香港或他妈的哪里）一样吗？在那里，你仅仅因为拥有一个加密硬件就会被搞死。
>>109400801
>they have to prove that there was any evidence on the phone in the first place.
>他们首先必须证明手机上确实存在任何证据。
They don't.
他们没有。
>>109392553
I've said it before but making having images like that illegal is fucking retarded. buying/selling/creating sure but just having them? fucking stupid because it opens up to shit EXACTLY like this. You being even remotely accused of this is going to ruin your entire life and make your family and friends question you. Its such a huge stigma that I would wager friends of his are going to be outright destroyed. Also family is still not going to allow him around their kids. I would sue the ever loving FUCK out of the government over this.
我以前就说过，把拥有这类图片定为非法简直是脑残。买/卖/制作当然可以管，但仅仅是拥有？这他妈太蠢了，因为这正好会引发这种烂事。你哪怕只是被稍微沾边地指控，都会彻底毁掉你的人生，让你的家人和朋友开始怀疑你。这污名太大了，我敢打赌他的朋友会因此彻底完蛋。而且家人肯定也不会再让他靠近他们的孩子。我真想为了这操蛋的事把政府告到飞起。
>>109392883
>entering the country with an obviously wiped phone
>带着一个明显被抹除数据的手机入境
>get detained and charged with destruction of evidence
>被拘留并以销毁证据罪名起诉
>>109400877
>Xhe doesn't have a bot operated decoy facebook profile that exclusively praises the Trump administration and calls the Epstein files "fake news"
>X他难道没有一个由机器人生成的假脸书账号吗？那个号专门吹捧特朗普政府，还把爱泼斯坦文件称为“假新闻”
>using your nightmare rectangle tracking device to store your CP
>用你那个噩梦般的“长方形追踪设备”来存储儿童色情
nonces get what they deserve
恋童癖活该
>>109400850
*they can't
*他们做不到
>>109400974
>CP
proof?
>>109392779
>afghanistan's AOC is 16
>阿富汗的AOC（最小可容忍年龄）是16岁
are you sure about that?
你确定吗？
>/g/ when they want to hide their anime pics
>/g/ 当他们想藏起动漫图片时
>"RREEEEEE FUCK THE GOVERNMENT MUH PRIVACY MUH CONSTITUTION"
>/g/ when the government violates some guy's privacy
>/g/ 当政府侵犯某人隐私时
>"Erm this is actually a good thing because the guy was probably a leftist."
“呃，这其实是件好事，因为这 guy 八成是个左派。”
>>109392668
You are correct. The agents had no warrant and no probable cause to search. They lied to him, saying he was suspected of having CP to scare him into cooperating (because cops can lie to you, so you should never take anything they say at face value).
你说得对。探员们没有搜查令，也没有合理依据去搜查。他们骗了他，说他涉嫌持有儿童色情，以此吓唬他配合（因为警察可以撒谎，所以别把警察说的话全当真）。
But IMO the real issue here is a software quality issue with Graphene OS. When the agents entered the duress pin, it very obviously boot looped into a factory reset. So the agents could tell what happened immediately. Ideally, entering the duress pin and hitting a fresh/dummy environment should be seamless. If the software worked better, the feds would have had no reason to suspect it was a duress pin.
但在我看来，真正的问题在于 GrapheneOS 的软件质量。当探员输入胁迫密码时，它非常明显地循环重启进入了出厂重置。所以探员们立刻就能看出发生了什么。理想情况下，输入胁迫密码并进入全新/虚拟环境的过程应该天衣无缝。如果软件做得再好点，联邦调查局就没有理由怀疑这是胁迫密码了。
Alternatively, having a second pin that runs a custom script that overwrites any potentially incriminating evidence (and replaces its own file with an innocuous custom boot script) would be better.
或者，设置一个第二密码，运行自定义脚本来覆盖任何可能有罪证的证据（并用一个无害的自定义启动脚本替换自身文件）会更好。
>>109393384
Unconstitutional. Those border patrol faggots should be shot and killed
违宪。那些边境巡逻的混蛋就该被枪毙
This thread has convinced me to get a google pixel and install graphone os on it. Duress code is conceptually cool as fuck, and apparently it makes zogbots seethe.
这个帖子让我决定买个 Google Pixel 并安装 GrapheneOS。胁迫密码这概念酷毙了，而且 apparently 让那些zogbots（注：指机器人账号）气得跳脚。
>>109393334
Honestly, typos are comforting now. At least you know it wans't written by AI.
说实话，现在看到拼写错误反而让人安心。至少你知道这不是 AI 写的。
>>109401503
If you use it during a legal seizure or search you will get buttraped though, but it's funny to have in theory.
但如果你在合法的扣押或搜查中使用它，确实会被坑惨，不过理论上这么搞挺有意思的。
>>109401522
that's fine I'll just sue
没事，我起诉就是了
>>109401528
I don't mean literally buttraped; you get charged and go to jail for destruction of property, obstructing justice, or evidence destruction or some combination of
我不是说字面意义上的“被坑惨”；你会因破坏财产、妨碍司法公正或销毁证据等罪名被起诉并入狱，或者是这些罪名的组合
>>109401536
yeah I'll sue since that's obviously unconstitutional
是的，我会起诉，因为这明显违宪
>>109400974
He didn't though. He was protesting the construction of a police campus and they wanted to
他确实没这么做。他当时在抗议建设一个警察学院，而他们想……
>1. Make his life hell by harassing him, and thus chill his activism.
>1. 通过骚扰让他生不如死，从而打击他的活动主义
>2. Search his belongings in the hopes they get lucky enough to find something to charge him with, thus chilling his activism by putting him in prison.
>2. 搜查他的随身物品，希望运气好到能找出些能给他定罪的证据，从而把他送进监狱，以此震慑他的活动。
The "routine search for CP" is just a loe they told him so they could get into his phone.
所谓的“例行搜捕CP（儿童色情）”，根本就是个借口，他们这么说只是为了能翻看你的手机。
>>109401540
Then you will lose and spend time in jail. You should REALLY look up the law sometime.
然后你就会输掉官司，还得在监狱里待着。你真该抽空去查查法律。
Like United States v. Ramsey, 431 U.S. 606 (1977)
就像美国诉兰西案，431 U.S. 606 (1977) 那样。
They're allowed to search your shit. If they're allowed to search your shit, denying them by activating duress counts as impeding a legal seizure of property.
他们有权搜查你的破烂玩意儿。既然他们有权搜，那你激活紧急解锁功能来阻拦，就算妨碍了合法的财产搜查。
Yes it's bullshit and I don't agree with it, but you're in a court of law so the law applies.
是的，这很扯淡，我不同意，但你现在是在法庭上，法律说了算。
>>109401553
That's fine I'll take my chances in court. I have a lot of money so I'll probably win
行啊，那我就去法庭碰碰运气。我有大把的钱，所以我大概率会赢。
>>109401553
Oh by the way this is why I think duress codes that don't make it obvious are preferred. Imagine if you had a second code you could put in that just opens up a dummy profile, they wouldn't even be able to tell. Even if they did; they wouldn't be able to prove it.
对了，这就是我为什么觉得那些不太明显的紧急密码更受欢迎。想象一下，如果你能设第二个密码，输入后只会打开一个虚假的个人资料，他们根本察觉不到。即使察觉到了；他们也证明不了什么。
>>109401503
>Spends 5 years in prison for using a software feature
>因为用了个软件功能就被判了5年监禁
Why do white people save cp on their phones
为什么白人要把儿童色情东西保存在手机里？
>>109401503
I wouldn't count on duress to actually protect you irl, it's a cool feature that can be useful in extreme cases but for the average user this sounds more like a liability than anything. It seems like better preparation (such as backing up and then wiping your device/having a decoy before flying to an authoritarian country) is ultimately the better solution for the average Joe.
别指望紧急解锁功能真的能在现实中保护你。这是个很酷的功能，在极端情况下可能有用，但对普通用户来说，这听起来更像是一种风险。相比之下，更好的准备（比如备份后清空设备/在进入威权国家前准备一个诱饵机）对普通人来说终究是更好的解决方案。
Only if you're something like a diplomat/journalist/whistleblower/spy that carries data that *cannot* fall into the wrong hands for security reasons would the duress be useful.
除非你是外交官/记者/吹哨人/间谍这类因为安全原因携带绝密数据的人，否则紧急解锁功能没什么用处。
>set my duress code to something easy like "password" the government zogbots will try
>我把紧急密码设成“password”这种简单词，政府狗腿子们肯定会试
>they enter the duress code themselves without any involvement from me
>他们自己输入紧急密码，我根本不参与
>>109401575
That's actually pretty smart. you could probably extend this to a long list of decoy passwords that all do the duress thing.
这招其实挺聪明的。你大概可以搞出一长串诱饵密码，全都触发紧急解锁功能。
I think another thing you could do is this:
我觉得你还可以这么做：
Say your real password is "password 1234". You tell the officer that your password is "password 1234" and it wipes your phone. Not your fault he didn't put a space in when you paused between password and 1234.
假设你的真实密码是“password 1234”。你跟警察说密码是“password 1234”，然后手机就自动清空了。别怪他，是你把空格留在“password”和“1234”之间时他按得太快了。
>>109401562
This will work on cops, detectives, and retarded border agents. But if they are doing serious forensic analysis, they are going to look at the underlying filesystems. So you'll need to actually overwrite data if you don't want a chance of them finding/recovering something.
这招对付警察、侦探和脑残边境检查员很有用。但如果他们做深度法医取证，他们会去查底层文件系统。所以，如果你不想让他们有找到/恢复数据的可能，你就得真正擦除数据。
>>109401591
You could probably even carry your duress password in your wallet or something so when they search you they try it and brick the phone themselves.
你甚至可以把紧急密码写在钱包里，这样他们搜查你的时候，试着输一下就把手机锁死了，算是他们自找苦吃。
Like a folded piece of paper that says
就像一张折起来的纸条上写着
>important passwords:
>重要密码：
>real password to some irrelevant account that is harmless for zogbots to log in to
>某个无关紧要账户的真实密码（这对政府狗腿子登录来说毫无危害）
>another one of the same
>再来一个类似的
>phone password (duress)
>手机密码（紧急解锁）
They'll likely just try the duress code themselves
他们大概率会自己试试那个胁迫码
who knew destroying evidence was against the law
真没想到销毁证据是犯法的
>>109401601
>But if they are doing serious forensic analysis, they are going to look at the underlying filesystem
>但如果他们进行的是深度法医分析，他们会去查看底层的文件系统
wouldn't deactivating usb-c beforehand prevent that?
提前禁用USB-C接口难道不能阻止这个吗？
>>109401614
They'd probably still be mad for being tricked, you have to be really careful not to even imply it's a password. Like it's literally just a piece of paper with 'password like strings' on it. Do NOT say they are passwords since then you're tricking the agent and that legally counts.
他们大概率还是会因为被耍了而生气，你得极其小心，连暗示那是密码都不行。比如上面只写着一张写有“类密码字符串”的纸条。绝对不要说是密码，不然你就是在欺骗执法人员，这在法律上会被算作欺骗。
>>109401617
evidence of what
什么证据？
>>109392389
wouldn't they find it anyway even if he destroyed it? Phones use flash memory, I don't think a factory reset would shred that deleted data.
就算他销毁了，他们难道不是照样能找到吗？手机用的是闪存，我不觉得恢复出厂设置能彻底抹除那些被删除的数据。
>>109401617
still waiting for the evidence that was destroyed
还在等那个被销毁的证据
>evidence cannot be shown since it was destroyed
>证据因为被销毁了所以拿不出来
oh man, so there was no evidence to begin with? shucks, better luck next time
哦天哪，所以一开始根本就没有证据？啧，下次好运吧
>>109401617
Look up what he was charged with. There was no evidence to destroy. He was charged with property destruction during a legal seizure. (It being a legal seizure was because border guards are literally allowed to do it for no reason, and it is that 'no reason' that makes it not evidence)
查查他被指控了什么。根本没有什么证据可销毁。他被控是在合法搜查过程中破坏财产。（之所以是合法搜查，是因为边境守卫确实有权无缘无故这么做，而正是这种“无缘无故”让它不被视为证据）
>>109401553
couldn't there be a duress code that wipes everything but select folders? That way they can't say you deleted everything.
难道不能设一个胁迫码，只擦除除指定文件夹之外的所有内容吗？这样他们就不能说你删光了所有东西。
>>109401655
Have you considered learning what encryption is
你有没有考虑过了解一下什么是加密
>>109398177
he wasn't doing any crime. he simply protested against the police. then they tried seizing his phone with no legitimate reason, presumably to get his contacts and harass other people
他根本没犯罪。他只是在抗议警察。然后他们试图在没有正当理由的情况下扣押他的手机，大概是想获取他的联系人并骚扰其他人
>>109396078
he was protesting against this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cop_City
>>109398144
there are laws, like the Logan act, which are solely used to harass people whose only crime is wrongthink. it's such a bad law that it hasn't been charged in 150 years but the threat has been used to harass people
有些法律，比如《洛根法案》，纯粹是用来骚扰那些唯一“罪行”是思想异见的人的。这法律糟透了，150年来都没人用它起诉过，但它的威胁一直被用来骚扰别人
theeee laaaaaaand of the freeeeeeeee lmao
自、由、的、乐、土，笑死
>>109392389
I'm sure this will land you in jail in Europe even quicker.
我敢打赌，在欧洲你这种言论能让你更快进监狱。
>>109392389
>passcode
>product of the mind
>思维产物
>5th amendment applies
>第五修正案适用
He could have just shut the fuck up.
他本来可以闭嘴的。
>>109401655
some modern disk encryption algorithms work with a password and a key that lives on the disk; to decrypt the data you need both the password and that key. if you destroy that key, the data becomes unrecoverable, even if you have the password, and vice versa
一些现代磁盘加密算法使用密码和存储在磁盘上的密钥一起工作；解密数据需要两者兼备。如果你销毁了那个密钥，数据就不可恢复了，即使你有密码也不行，反之亦然。
I haven't traveled between countries since I was like 8 is it really normal for them to look on your phone? how are people okay with that seems crazy? What would they even be looking for?
我8岁左右以后就没跨国旅行了，现在他们看手机真的正常吗？人们怎么能接受这种事？感觉太疯狂了。他们到底在找什么？
>>109402532
up to 7 years ago no, these days it seems like something that happens often enough to random people that people suggest using burner devices just to travel
直到7年前还不算，但现在看来，随机抽查已经频繁到足以让人建议为了旅行专门带个备用设备了
it's sad
真可悲
What are they talking about? Did he wipe it? Like, with a cloth or something?
他们在说什么？他擦除数据了吗？就像用布什么的擦掉一样？
>>109393334
UNTIE THE STATES!!! WE WERE NEVER MEANT TO BE TIED!!!
>>109401601
>This will work on cops, detectives, and retarded border agents.
>这对警察、侦探和蠢货边境守卫都管用。
so it will work on 99.9% of cases including the one being discussed
所以它在99.9%的情况下都管用，包括目前正在讨论的这个案子
>>109401540
It turns out the supreme court can just interpret the constitution any way they want, even when it totally flies in the face of a historian's or layman's reading of the document. Then all lower courts must abide by their rulings because some cunt in the 1870s said they have to.
结果发现最高法院想怎么解释宪法就怎么解释，哪怕这完全违背了历史学家或外行对文件内容的理解。然后所有下级法院都必须遵守他们的裁决，因为1870年代某个混蛋说他们必须得这么做。
>>109402532
>how are people okay with that seems crazy
>人们怎么能接受这个？这看起来太疯狂了
The ones that don't go along with end up in prison
那些不遵从的人最终会进了监狱
>What would they even be looking for
>他们到底在找什么
Anti-government or anti-Israel sentiment
反政府或反以色列情绪
>>109401562
except if you give cops an actual profile instead of leaving the phone locked, you give them a way larger attack surface, and if this method becomes widespread, cellebrite will exploit this to gain full access to the system, especially in AFU state. GrapheneOS will do nothing because its "insecure" so it's unsupported
除非你给警察一个真正的资料画像而不是让手机处于锁定状态，否则你就给他们提供了大得多的攻击面。如果这种方法变得普遍，Cellbrite 会利用它来获得对系统的完全访问权限，尤其是在自动固件更新（AFU）状态下。GrapheneOS 将不会提供这种支持，因为它被认为“不安全”
>>109400801
>they have to prove that there was any evidence on the phone in the first place
>他们首先得证明手机里存在任何证据
Do they? They can just say "Officer Dickweed witnessed the defendant browsing through CASM on his phone and immediately seized it."
他们必须吗？他们可以说：“警官迪克维德目睹被告在手机上浏览 CASM，于是立即将其扣押。”
>>109403155
Except he was posting not nice things about Israel.
除了他发布了不太友好的关于以色列的内容。
>>109400011
It's amazing how stupid people are to trust the government to make an accusation and then believe the government.
人们如此愚蠢地信任政府做出指控，然后又相信政府，这真是令人惊讶。
He was an anti police activist which is morally upstanding. He dumped his phone to protect contacts from similar police tactics.
他是一位反警察活动家，这在道德上是值得尊敬的。他丢弃了手机以保护联系人免受类似的警察手段。
>>109392389
If they knew he was a paedo, it shouldn't matter if he wipes his phone. This is manufactured controversy that will be used as justification to void people's privacy. The government is never to be trusted.
如果他们知道他是恋童癖者，那么他是否擦除手机就不重要了。这是人为制造的争议，将被用作剥夺人们隐私的借口。绝不能信任政府。
oy vey anti israels are pedophiles
哎呀，反以色列者都是恋童癖
>>109402946
Okay, so it can open a dummy profile, then wipe the real profile in the background.
好吧，所以它可以打开一个虚假配置文件，然后在后台擦除真实配置文件。
>>109392389
Dont encrypted drives have a feature where a secondary file system is decrypted when the duress password is used which contains non-incriminating things? A duress password that outright wipes the phone is essentially admitting there was something on there
加密驱动器不都有一个特性，即当使用胁迫密码时会解密包含非指控性内容的第二文件系统吗？如果胁迫密码直接擦除手机，那基本上等于承认那里有过东西
>>109401490
>But IMO the real issue here is a software quality issue with Graphene OS. When the agents entered the duress pin, it very obviously boot looped into a factory reset. So the agents could tell what happened immediately. Ideally, entering the duress pin and hitting a fresh/dummy environment should be seamless. If the software worked better, the feds would have had no reason to suspect it was a duress pin.
>但我认为这里真正的问题是 Graphene OS 的软件质量问题。当特工输入胁迫密码时，它非常明显地重启进入恢复出厂设置。所以特工们可以立即看出发生了什么。理想情况下，输入胁迫密码并进入全新的/虚假环境应该无缝衔接。如果软件运作得更好，联邦调查局就没有理由怀疑这是胁迫密码。
thats actually a very clever idea.
这确实是个很聪明的主意。
>>109403330
That's an optional VeraCrypt feature which almost nobody uses because you have to actually use the decoy environment on a regular basis.
这是 VeraCrypt 的一个可选功能，几乎没有人使用，因为你必须真的定期使用那个诱饵环境。
The best solution by far is to not carry sensitive information with you and only access it remotely via thin client type solutions.
最棒的解决方案当然是不要随身携带敏感信息，而是仅通过类似瘦客户端的方案远程访问。
>>109403316
sounds like a good idea but graphene will probably find 1923782 reasons to say why this is bad
听起来是个好主意，但 Graphene 可能会找出 1923782 个理由来说明为什么这是坏主意
>>109403526
This. Don't bring data across the border you don't want accessed. Guy should have just refused to decrypt his phone, then it's not data destruction and the courts have fund they can't compel you to decrypt using a passcode. They can force you decrypt with a fingerprint though, keep in mind.
就这个。别把你不希望被访问的数据带过边境。这人本来可以直接拒绝解密他的手机，那样就不算数据销毁了，法院也没法强制你用密码来解密。不过要注意，他们倒是可以强迫你用指纹解锁。
Why are people calling him a pedophile if the case is centered around the lack of data being present?
既然案件的核心是数据缺失，为什么大家还要叫他恋童癖？
I genuinely want to understand why people jump to that conclusion and nothing else. My mind jumps to digital terrorism at the airport before pedophilia.
我是真心想弄明白，为什么大家就这么轻易下结论，别的都不考虑。换作是我，在机场第一反应是数字恐怖主义，而不是恋童癖。
>>109403700
Because everyone things about the children.
因为大家都想着孩子们。
>>109403700
Government AI paints everyone with anti-Likud politics as pedophiles.
政府AI把凡是有反利库德党立场的人都画像是恋童癖。
>>109403275
Once someone is tagged as a pedo people stop asking questions.
一旦某人被贴上恋童癖的标签，就没人再问问题了。
>>109403700
The only people that care about privacy are pedophiles. Normal people have absolutely no problem showing everything they have to any person that asks at any time.
只有恋童癖才关心隐私。正常人对于任何人随时随地要求查看他们的一切东西，完全没意见。
>>109401553
is data property
数据属于财产
>>109404397
Just shit with the front door open.
就像大门敞开让人随便进一样蠢。
>>109404397
go ahead and post your adress, phone number, email, credit card and feet here then if you have nothing to hide
既然你没什么不可告人的，那就尽管把你的地址、电话号码、邮箱、信用卡和脚丫子都贴出来吧
>>109392389
>"Deleting your files makes you a pedo"
>“删文件就你是恋童癖”
Are americannies really like this?
美国人真的都这样吗？
>>109404397
normal people should have woken up to this trick during the covid era
正常人早就该在新冠疫情期间识破这招了
if that didn't teach them then they will never learn
如果这都没教会他们，那他们永远学不会
>>109404397
even if that were true, the difference is that showing someone something isn't the same as putting it permanently in a database
就算那是真的，区别在于把东西给别人看，和把它永久存入数据库完全不是一回事
the dutch used to be super meticulous about databasing everything about people, and everyone was ok with it because well, no issue if the govt knows where i live, what religion i follow, etc
荷兰人以前对给每个人建立数据库这种事简直一丝不苟，大家都习以为常，毕竟政府知道住哪、信什么教什么的，好像也没什么问题
until the germans got access to that same database
直到德国人获取了那个数据库的访问权限
you'd have thought people would learn from that that data is permanent and its owners can change (or change their mind) yet youll never be able to revoke or take back the data as data is infinitely copiable
人们本应从那里吸取教训，明白数据是永久的，且数据所有者可能会改变（或改变主意），但数据一旦发出，你就永远无法撤回或收回，因为数据可以被无限复制
>>109392389
the border agent literally destroyed his phone. the agent should be the one getting charged???
边境执法人员实际上销毁了他的手机。该被起诉的难道不是执法人员吗???
>>109404907
Border agent should be charged for violating 4th amendment human rights while working under the auspices of the US government.
边境执法人员在美国政府的授权下工作，却违反了第四修正案的人权，理应被起诉。
>>109392389
>6 point star logo
>6点星标志
>(((Tunick)))
Graphene is compromised and they're trying to trick potential thought criminals into using it thinking they have more operational freedom in doing so. Hence the specific "activist" terminology to attract people into using it.
Graphene已被 compromised（被渗透/不可信），他们正试图欺骗潜在的“思想罪犯”去用它，让他们误以为这样能有更多的行动自由。所以特意用“活动人士”这种术语来吸引人们使用。
>"Lead GrapheneOS developer was forcibly conscripted into a war"
>“GrapheneOS的开发者曾被强制征召入伍”
>>109404936
oh I don't know if I can support GrapheneOS if they're in the military
哦，我不知道我还能不能支持 GrapheneOS，如果他们的开发者在军队里的话
>>109404397
>"If you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to worry about."
>“如果你没什么不可告人的，你就没什么可担心的。”
Sorry bud, but look up Florida v Zachary Wester.
抱歉啊兄弟，去查查佛罗里达州诉扎卡里·韦斯特案吧。
>>109404936
Graphene is a fine thin client platform in that you can trust it to not retain data when you don't ask it to. The problem is journalists are fucking stupid with computers and always running off half cocked, and feds ALWAYS exploit this.
Graphene 是一个不错的轻量级客户端平台，你可以相信它在你没有要求的情况下不会保留数据。问题是记者们在电脑方面简直愚蠢至极，总是盲目行动，而联邦调查局总是利用这一点。
>oh i thought it was anonymous because it was on tails over tor
>哦我以为它是匿名的，因为它是在tails加tor上运行的
They literally make it as easy as possible to hang yourself with the tools they give you.
他们 literally 让利用他们提供的工具自尽变得尽可能简单。
>>109404723
I'd rape these polices if they showed up at my door
要是这些警察出现在我家门口，我非强奸他们不可
>>109404936
So true this is why I only use Israel approved iOS™ Devices
太真实了，这就是为什么我只使用以色列批准的iOS™设备
>>109404936
>hohol gets force conscripted and thrown into certain death
>hohol 被强制征召并被扔进必死之地
>"sorry, lol, we cant tell you about what country or war it is because that would make them look bad"
>“抱歉，哈哈哈，我们不能告诉你这是哪个国家或哪场战争，因为这会让那边看起来很糟糕”
kek, goyphene is really a glowfag OS
kek，goyphene 真的是个 glowfag（白痴）操作系统
>>109404997
>that you can trust it to not retain data when you don't ask it to
>你可以信任它，在你没让它的时候不会保留数据
What makes you think that you can trust them?
什么让你觉得你能信任他们？
Like is there any guarantee or presedence or specific action of them that justifies that trust?
有没有任何保证、先例或他们的具体行为能证明这种信任是合理的？
Remember that GrapheneOS phones home to their own servers, making comnections that no other OS does.
记住 GrapheneOS 的手机会向它们自己的服务器回连（phoning home），建立其他任何操作系统都不会建立的连接。
>>109405255
The same is true of pretty much every Linux distro. It's all open source and you know what they phone home for.
几乎所有的 Linux 发行版都是如此。它们都是开源的，你知道它们回连是为了什么。
>>109405277
No it isnt.
不，事实并非如此。
Its also not true for Lineage. Lineage cuts out such requests, rather than replacing it with their own servers.
Lineage 的情况也不是这样。Lineage 会切断这类请求，而不是用它们自己的服务器来替换。
So you even have another Android ROM that is better than Graphene in that aspect.
所以在这方面，你甚至有了一个比 Graphene 更好的 Android ROM。
As you see in the pervious post, GrapheneOS is relying on blind trust. You just trust that the GrapheneOS AWS instances dont log... because.. you just do... you cant verify
正如你在前一条帖子中看到的，GrapheneOS 依赖于盲信。你只是盲目信任 GrapheneOS 的 AWS 实例不记录日志……因为……你就是这么信的……你无法验证
>>109405308
>You just trust that the GrapheneOS AWS instances dont log... because.. you just do... you cant verify
>你只是盲目信任 GrapheneOS 的 AWS 实例不记录日志……因为……你就是这么信的……你无法验证
You're retarded and don't understand the purpose of GOS. Hint: it's not to make you anonymous on the internet!
你脑子有病，不懂 GOS 的用途。提示：它不是为了让你在匿网上匿名！
>>109405323
to quote you:
引用你的话：
>that you can trust it to not retain data when you don't ask it to
>你可以信任它，在你没让它的时候不会保留数据
>>109392389
This is how all people who denounce Vishnu should be treated. No trial. No legal process. Just arrested and jam’d.
这就是所有诋毁 Vishnu 的人应该受到的待遇。没有审判。没有法律程序。直接逮捕并塞进去。
>>109405335
You still haven't provided us with any instance of Graphene surreptitiously retaining data, sending things they promised not to, etc.
你还没有向我们提供任何 Graphene 秘密保留数据、发送他们承诺不发送的东西等的实例。
I definitelly do not trust someone who watches his friend getting force conscripted and thrown into death, and actively avoids talking about it, because it would make OUR WESTERN VALUES look bad.
我绝对不信任那种看着朋友被强制征召并面临死亡，还刻意避而不谈的人，因为那样会让 OUR（我们的）西方价值观看起来很糟糕。
Fucking war propaganada is more important to you than the life of your friend?
对你们来说，该死的战争宣传比你朋友的命还重要？
>>109405357
HOLY PIVOTING
>>109392883
>Restore backup
>恢复备份
how? from where?
怎么？从哪儿？
from your unencrypted cloud that a bunch of companies for hash scans and have access to for the sake of protecting kids?
从你那堆公司的哈希扫描未加密云里，他们为了所谓的保护儿童而拥有访问权？
>>109399368
Bro this is complete bullshit. If he was illegal, he'd get charged with a felony AND THEN put in a detention center.
兄弟，这完全是胡扯。如果他是非法的，他会被指控重罪 AND THEN（然后）关进拘留中心。
>>109392668
If you're a pleb and you don't have cp, you can wipe your Samsung phone, cross the border/fly then find wifi and restore from their cloud (if you trust) within 30 days, then on the way back you do the same.
如果你是个平民并且没有 CP（儿童色情），你可以格式化三星手机，过边境/乘机，然后找 Wi-Fi 在30天内从他们的云恢复（如果你信任的话），回来的路上再做一次同样的操作。
>>109392668
>a term used to expand the scope
>一个用来扩大范围的术语
Porn is possible (and mostly done) in consent, sexual abuse not.
色情是可能的（而且大多是这样做的），是在双方同意的情况下；性虐待则不是。
It narrowed the scope.
它缩小了范围。
>>109405370
>nuh-uh
>>109405357
you blindly trust a person, who is so submissive to ZOG, that he watches his friend getting forcefully drafted and defends this, because it's for the good ZOG cause.
你盲目信任一个如此屈服于 ZOG（犹太复国主义控制政府）的人，看着他朋友被强制征召并为此辩护，因为这是为了好的 ZOG 事业。
What do you think is this person going to do, when ZOG requests signing keys from him, to deploy compromised updates?
大家觉得，当ZOG（犹太复国主义占领政府）向他索要签名密钥以部署被篡改的更新时，这人会怎么做？
Do you think he is going to resist this?
你觉得他会反抗吗？
Or will he shout SLAVA UKRAINI and proudly hand it to them?
还是会高喊“荣耀归乌克兰”，并自豪地把密钥交给他们？
>>109405558
>hi Micay, this phone is used by some super evil Russian who filmed Trump pissing on hookers in a bed where formerly Obama slept in, the Steele Dossier proves this, can you just deploy some spyware on it? Its for defending our Western Values of Freedom and Democracy :)
>嘿Micay，这台手机被一个超级邪恶的俄罗斯人用着，他拍了特朗普在奥巴马曾经睡过的床上对妓女撒尿的视频，《斯蒂尔档案》证实了这一点，你能不能在上面装个间谍软件？这是为了捍卫我们的西方自由民主价值观 :)
>>109405435
Even if you're doing heavy shit, you can follow the same procedure but with an encrypted, cloud hosted backup blob where you've memorized the passphrase. Never carry valuable information where customs Puerto Ricans can steal it. Even if you have nothing to hide.
即使你在搞些见不得光的勾当，你也可以遵循同样的流程，只不过使用一个加密的、托管在云上的备份文件块，里面的密码你自己背下来。永远不要把宝贵信息带在海关的波多黎各人（注：此处原文为PUERTO RICANS，结合语境可能指代特定群体或笔误，但按字面翻译）能偷走的地方。哪怕你觉得自己没什么可隐藏的。
>>109405568
>>109405586
Linus does the same
林纳斯也是这么做的。
>>109405616
Linus isn't a singular party watching over signing keys for deploying updates OTA on my device
林纳斯并不是那个单独守护着我设备上OTA更新签名密钥的人。
why are Graphene cultists so fucking DISHONEST. Its unreal what ridiculous bullshit they try to pull of.
为什么Graphene的信徒们这么他妈的不诚实。他们试图耍的那些荒谬把戏简直不可思议。
>you can trust gos!
>你可以信任GOS！
<why? they can spy on you
<为什么？他们能监控你
>oh yes, but i am sure others can as well
>哦，是的，但我确信别人也能监控你
<Lineage cuts out those various requests completely, a request that isnt even made cant be tracked
<Lineage完全砍掉了那些各种请求，一个甚至没被发出的请求是无法被追踪的
>oh yes? Then prove that the Amazon AWS instance of GOS logs stuff!!!
>哦是吗？那证明一下GOS的Amazon AWS实例记录了东西！！！
>GOS, a OS distributor, is run by literal zogbots
>GOS，一个操作系统发行版，是由真正的ZOG傀儡运行的
<oh yes? but the kernel dude Linus is a zogbot as well!
<哦是吗？但那个内核大佬林纳斯也是个ZOG傀儡！
>>109405616
Linus has a friend who got force conscripted into a killzone and covers for the ones doing it?
林纳斯有个朋友被强征进“杀戮地带”，而林纳斯替那些人掩护？
>>109405701
Linus throws his Russian colleagues under the bus and openly sides with the imperial project.
林纳斯把他的俄罗斯同事推出去顶罪，并公开站在帝国主义项目一边。
>>109405679
Once again not a single technical reason not to use it.
再一次强调，没有使用它的技术理由。
>>109392389
I want 3 million tax free and two phat assed latinas (Brazilians or Columbians) to fuck every night
我想要三百万免税收入，还有两个大屁股的拉丁美洲女性（巴西人或哥伦比亚人）每晚陪我睡觉
Can GPT give me that?
GPT能给我这个吗？
I just love it that when someone finally makes a proper secure and private aosp fork instead of those hobby projects we had in the 2010s its suddenly a problem and international news.
我只是很纳闷，当有人终于做出了一个真正安全私密的AOSP分支，而不是我们2010年代那些业余项目时，这突然就成了问题，还成了国际新闻。
>>109394372
Your 4th amendment rights can't be violated if you consent to a search. In this case the guy consented and immediately destroyed what they were trying to search through, which is a crime. A violation would be if he outright refused to give the police his password and they searched his phone anyway.
如果你同意搜查，你的第四修正案权利就不会被侵犯。在这个案例中，那个人同意了，并立即销毁了他们试图搜索的东西，这本身就是一种犯罪。如果那个人直接拒绝把密码给警察，而警察还是搜查了他的手机，那才算侵犯权利。
>>109404797
what happened between the dutch and the german people? What is the nature of this incident you are talking about? can you elaborate? Please. Appreciated.
荷兰人和德国人之间发生了什么？你提到的这个事件性质是什么？能详细说说吗？谢谢。
>>109405786
He simply consented to a destructive search :^)
他只是同意了一次破坏性的搜查 :^)
>>109405974
Yep and look where that got him.
没错，看看这让他得到了什么下场。
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