How do we fix USB-C?
我们怎么解决USB-C的问题？
我们怎么解决USB-C的问题？
>>109365974
>from simple charging wires to sophisticated, expensive data transfer tools
>从简单的充电线到复杂昂贵的高速数据传输工具
wow, some are charging only and some have charging and data
哇，有些只能充电，有些既能充电又能传数据
what a crazy world, so sophisticated and makes me so angry, I hate usb-c
这疯狂的世界，太复杂了，气得我火大，我恨USB-C
how do we fix faggot screenshot threads?
我们怎么解决那些傻逼截图贴？
>>109365974
what is there to fix?
有啥好解决的？
It just werks
它本来就好用啊
>>109365974
I knew people would start hating on USB-C when it started becoming the standard. This why meaningless government interventions like you see in the EU are stupid.
我就知道，当USB-C开始成为标准时，人们就会开始喷它。这就是为什么像欧盟那样的无意义政府干预很蠢。
>How do we fix USB-C?
>怎么解决USB-C的问题？
We don't.
我们不解决。
>>109365974
Her face is asking for punches.
那张脸看着就想挨揍。
good thing some retard mandated this shitty standard to be used in all phones
还好有个蠢货强制规定所有手机都得用这破标准
>>109366410
After having dealt with multiple loose USB-C connections I want to go back to micro usb. Ideally they'd have a standard that's both tight and unidirectional in the way you can plug it in.
经历了多次USB-C连接松动后，我想回到Micro USB。理想情况下，应该有一个标准，接口既稳固，又支持单向插拔。
>This why meaningless government interventions like you see in the EU are stupid.
>这就是为什么像欧盟那样的无意义政府干预很蠢。
Why do americans always seethe about the good parts of the EU but never the enforced gayness or chat control?
为什么美国人总是对欧盟的好方面愤愤不平，却从不提那些强制的同性权益或聊天监控？
single worst piece of shit connector i've ever used, at least micro-usb's prongs actually worked as a retaining mechanism if your port was clean
我用过最烂的连接器，至少Micro USB的金属触点在端口干净时能起到卡扣固定作用
>>109365974
>buy a few known-good cables (100W, 10 gbps is a good baseline; maybe one TB5 for ultra fast transfers and connecting displays)
>买几根已知靠谱的线（100W，10 Gbps算是个好基准；也许再备一根TB5规格的用于极速传输和接显示器）
>toss out all others
>把其他的都扔了
spending like $100 once every decade really that much?
花大约$100，每隔十年一次，这算多吗？
>>109366488
>After having dealt with multiple loose USB-C connections I want to go back to micro usb.
>经历了多次USB-C连接松动后，我想回到Micro USB。
never had this
我从来没遇到过这问题
i even used several secon hand phones
我甚至都用过好几部二手手机
have you tried no dancing with mohammed ali while the usbc is coitus with your phone in your pocket?
你试过边跟穆罕默德·阿里跳舞，边让USB-C接口跟你口袋里的手机搞基吗？
>>109366488
>After having dealt with multiple loose USB-C connections I want to go back to micro usb
>在处理过多次松动的USB-C接口后，我想换回micro USB
I dearly hope it's bait
我真心希望这只是个引战帖
going back to usb-a or usb-b, I could believe (assuming they're fast). micro usb? lol lmao pox upon your family
如果是换回USB-A或USB-B我还能信（假设速度够快）。micro USB？哈哈，笑死我了，祝你全家生脓疱疮
>>109365974
>sloppa deliberately included in the screenshot
>截图中故意包含了sloppa（松松垮垮）这个词
kys
去死吧
>>109366488
> Why do americans always seethe about the good parts of the EU but never the enforced gayness or chat control?
> 为什么美国人总是对美国好的方面咬牙切齿，却从不提强制的“同性恋政治正确”或聊天监控？
Nope, I am a Eurosceptic living in Europe.
不，我是个住在欧洲的疑欧派。
I am not against useful regulation, and I am not advocating for the American capitalism.
我不反对有用的监管，我也不是在为美国式资本主义辩护。
However, we are regulating ourselves out of a future.
然而，我们正在通过过度监管将自己逼向没有未来的境地。
These laws are weaponized by big corporations to flood smaller, up and coming competitors with paperwork and legal overhead that only they can afford to navigate.
这些法律被大公司武器化，用来用大量的文书工作和法律开销淹没小型新兴竞争对手，而这些只有他们才付得起代价去应对。
Here is an example: Microsoft actively lobbied for the DMA with the intent to handicap rivals like Apple and Google:
举个例子：微软积极游说支持DMA，意图削弱苹果和谷歌等竞争对手：
And discussed by analysts here: https://cepa.org/article/europes-dma-a-protectionist-weapon/
TLDR; EU regulation is just a giant battle ground for Big US corporation to throw the book at one another while negatively effecting European businesses.
简而言之；欧盟监管只是让美国大企业互相甩锅的大战场，而受害的是欧洲企业。
>>109366410
The obvious issue is the standard is basically useless if it only defines the ports and ignores the specs of the inside.
明显的问题在于，如果该标准只定义接口而忽略内部规格，那基本上就是废物。
>>109366764
>The obvious issue is the standard is basically useless if it only defines the ports and ignores the specs of the inside.
>明显的问题在于，如果该标准只定义接口而忽略内部规格，那基本上就是废物。
Also a very good point, but they can't say freeze what USB-C can do at the making of the law.
这也是个非常棒的观点，但他们不能在立法时就把USB-C的功能冻结不变。
>>109366410
I have one charger for most devices now. how is that useless?
我现在大部分设备都用同一个充电器。这怎么就废物了？
I'm literally using the same charger for my phone, my tablet and two laptops.
我确实用同一个充电器给手机、平板和两台笔记本电脑供电。
I'm old enough to remember these (Sony Ericsson one sucked ass,too easily disconnected).
我年纪大到还记得这些（索尼爱立信那款简直烂得要死，也太容易松动了）。
>>109366950
>>109366950
>I have one charger for most devices now. how is that useless?
>我现在大部分设备都用同一个充电器。这怎么就废物了？
>I'm literally using the same charger for my phone, my tablet and two laptops.
>我确实用同一个充电器给手机、平板和两台笔记本电脑供电。
>I'm old enough to remember these (Sony Ericsson one sucked ass,too easily disconnected).
>我年纪大到还记得这些（索尼爱立信那款简直烂得要死，也太容易松动了）。
Pretty much a bad faith, This was happening far before the EU made it a mandate, the only one who wasn't interested in it was apple, even corporations like Nintendo were moving to USB-C as a standard even them and they are the apple of gaming.
这纯粹是出于恶意。这早就在欧盟强制令之前就发生了，唯一一个不感兴趣的是苹果，连像任天堂这样号称“游戏界苹果”的公司都转向USB-C作为标准了。
>>109366404
USB-C connectors and sockets are garbage. There's no excuse for having a higher failure rate than connectors designed 50 years ago.
USB-C的插头和插座简直是垃圾。比50年前设计的连接器故障率还高，没有任何借口。
>>109366990
Having a standard is good.
有标准是好事。
Standardizing on USB-C was a mistake.
统一采用USB-C是个错误。
>>109367023
Please refer to this message >>109366697
请参考这条消息 >>109366697
How the fuck are you guys getting faillures?
你们到底他妈的怎么搞出故障的？
Oh dont tell me, you fell for the no 3.5mm-jack même.
哦别告诉我，你中了那个3.5mm耳机孔梗的套路。
If you plug your usb-c in and dont stress it, it doesnt fail.
只要你插上USB-C后不去掰它，它就不会坏。
>>109366990
>the only one who wasn't interested in it was apple
>唯一一个不感兴趣的是苹果
and now they're required to. how is that bad? why are you accusing me of bad faith, shithead?
现在他们被强制要求了。这有什么不好？你他妈的在指责我恶意抬杠吗，傻逼？
>>109367023
they don't. never broke a usb-c connector or socket in my life.
它们并没有。我这辈子从未见过USB-C接口或插座损坏。
maybe don't be a neanderthal.
也许别当个原始人。
>>109365974
make the standard a standard
把这个标准确立为标准
that would be a good first step
那将是一个很好的第一步
>>109367055
>bad faith
>缺乏诚意
Yes! The minute I show an exception to the rule, you grasp the straws and attack me with an Ad hominem. The industry was already for the most part moving to it as a standard way before the EU mandated it, you are making it seem that it's because of the EU instead of it being a meaningless enforcement. All you could have done is just not buy an iPhone and you would have one cable for all too. Even Apple's Macbooks used usb-c at that point.
对！我一旦指出规则的例外，你们就抓住稻草不放手，用人身攻击来攻击我。在欧盟强制规定之前很久，业界大部分就已经开始把它作为标准了，你把它说得好像是因为欧盟才这样，而不是因为这是一种毫无意义的强制执行。你只要不买iPhone，现在就用一根线搞定所有设备就行了。即使当时，苹果的MacBook也在用USB-C了。
>>109365974
never had a single problem with any USB-C cable or connector
我从未遇到过任何USB-C线缆或连接器的问题
seems to be an IQ problem (browns, yellows and other subhumans)
似乎是智商问题（黑人、黄种人和其他次人类）
>>109365992
Some cables have neither
有些线缆两种都没有
>>109366990
Apple released the first USB-C only computer in 2015, long before the competition. Lightning was and still is a better connector for mobile devices, far more durable than USB-C.
苹果在2015年就发布了第一款纯USB-C接口的电脑，远早于竞争对手。Lightning 至今仍是移动设备上更好的接口，比USB-C耐用得多。
>>109367038
>if you don't use it, it doesn't fail
>如果你不用，它就不会坏
The failure rate should be EFFECTIVELY ZERO you babbling moron. There shouldn't be ANY reports of connector failures.
故障率应该是“几乎”为零，你这个废话连篇的白痴。根本不应该有任何关于接口故障的报告。
>>109367061
Wrong.
>>109367141
You should use wireless charging and wireless headphones. The USB-C port should be used maybe once or twice over the entire lifetime of a phone.
你应该使用无线充电和无线耳机。USB-C端口在一部手机的整个生命周期中可能只用上一两次。
>>109367105
Opposite. Discrete math is a white man thing and you don't understand how it works.
恰恰相反。离散数学是白人的东西，你根本不懂它是如何运作的。
>>109367156
I do. That's a cop out and just admitting I'm correct. It's a terrible design and never should have become the standard.
我懂。那只是逃避问题，等于承认我是对的。这是设计上的噩梦，它根本不该成为标准。
>>109367169
Well thanks to it being codified in law, it will be the standard for the next 200 years. Your great-great-grankids will be lamenting the fact that everything they use has to have a shitty USB-C port because the people of today were so stupid.
好吧，多亏了它被写进法律，它将作为标准再持续200年。你的玄孙辈会哀叹他们使用的每样东西都得配个垃圾USB-C接口，只因为今天的人类太蠢了。
>>109367023
>There's no excuse for having a higher failure rate than connectors designed 50 years ago.
>与50年前设计的接口相比，更高的故障率没有借口。
Source?
来源呢？
>>109367159
>no argument
>无异议
uhu. thanks Ranjeet
嗯嗯。谢谢Ranjeet
>>109367023
Dunno my 6 year old snamsnung phone with USBc connector still werks, might be a (you) problem or just applel seethe
不知道，我那个用了6年的三星（snamsnung，应为Samsung）手机，USB-C接口还在用，可能是你的问题，或者只是苹果在气急败坏
>>109367285
>applel seethe
>苹果l气急败坏 (applel seethe)
It's this. Anybody who hates USB-C always turns out to be an iToddler pissed that they lost their beloved fire starting USB 2.0 connector.
就是这个。任何讨厌USB-C的人，最终都会暴露自己是那些痛失心爱USB 2.0接口的“苹果幼稚鬼”。
>>109365974
2.0 is just micro usb with a different plug. Maybe they should use colour code for different versions.
USB 2.0只是换个接口的Micro USB罢了。也许他们应该用颜色编码来区分不同版本。
>>109367302
All of this could've been avoided if the standard just mandated markings on the connectors describing the speed, whether it's for charging or data, whether it supports Thunderbolt, whether it does DP-Alt mode, etc. The ports typically have these markings, so why not the cables?
如果标准强制要求在连接器上标明速度、是用于充电还是数据传输、是否支持雷电接口、是否支持DP Alt模式等，这一切本都可以避免。端口上通常都有这些标记，为什么线缆上没有？
>>109366950
The fast port had soldering issues, T28 didn't.
快速充电口存在焊接问题，T28芯片的没有。
>>109367339
DELED DIS
>>109367298
What is that?
那是什么？
Lightning is an 8-pin connector.
Lightning 是一个8针接口。
>>109367141
My failure rate is zero.
我的故障率是零。
I always thought the old apple laptop sockets with built in magnets to keep them in place so there was no need for a deep socket was the superior design, we should go to a magnet based connection for all mobile devices and remove the giant hole that allows water and dirt and lint into the interior of the devices
我一直觉得苹果老款笔记本那种自带磁吸的接口设计更优秀，这样就不需要预留那么深的插孔了。我们应该给所有移动设备都采用磁吸连接，把那个让水、灰尘和毛絮钻进设备内部的巨大窟窿给消灭掉。
>>109367339
>no you can't label the cables I have to be able to tell by feel because I'm blind and always carry every single cable for every use case all at once.
>不，你不能给线缆贴标签，因为我必须靠手感分辨，我看不见，而且每次出门各种场景用的线缆我都带齐了。
Schizo.
this entire thread is full of bots astroturfing a smear campaign on the usb-c protocol
这个帖子里全是机器人，在针对 USB-C 协议进行水军抹黑运动。
propping another connector?
又要把别的接口抬出来？
we'll see when app*e launches a new phone with THE LATEST SUPER DUPER GOOD NEW YET ANOTHER INDUSTRY STANDARD CONNECTOR
等苹果发布一款搭载“最新最牛超棒新行业标准接口”的新手机时我们就知道了。
>>109367469
there is no such thing as an "usb-c protocol"
根本没有什么“USB-C 协议”这种东西。
>>109365974
It's Apple's fault honestly. They designed a great port. If they made their port open source everyone would be using that instead but no they had to be proprietary niggers about it and now even they can't have their port.
说实话这是苹果的锅。他们设计了一个很棒的接口。如果他们让这个接口开源，大家肯定早就用那个了，但他们非要搞专有私有，真是些混蛋，结果现在连他们自己也用不上了。
>>109367492
i fucking love burning down my house with appleshit
我真他妈爱死用火把那些苹果垃圾烧个精光了。
>>109367492
usb-c got developed by Apple and Apple were the first to offer an USB-C only device.
USB-C 是由苹果开发的，也是苹果第一家提供全 USB-C 接口设备的公司。
Just that it was called thunderbolt and then later the USB dudes agreed to adopt Apples connector.
只是当时它叫雷电接口，后来 USB 的那帮人才同意采纳苹果的接口标准。
But don't tell this the Eastern Europen shitskins who worship old women in their globohomo government. They might get an heart attack when they realize that the EU forced everybody else to use an Apple connector.
但别跟那些在东欧崇拜政府里“全球同化老女人”的杂种说这些。他们要是意识到欧盟是逼着全世界用苹果的接口，可能会心脏病发作。
>>109367461
cry more
哭得更大声点吧。
why are there so many women tech tubers lately?
最近怎么这么多女性科技博主？
Micro usb is easier to solder than type C.
Micro USB 比 Type-C 更容易焊接。
>>109365974
>How do we fix USB-C?
>怎么解决USB-C的问题？
The only way to fix it is to get rid of it. USB-C is the worst cable ever. EU communists made everyone's lives worse when they declared that only one standard should exist, and that it should be USB-C. These cables break after only two months of use. This has never happened with Micro-USB or Lightning cables.
唯一的解决办法就是彻底抛弃它。USB-C 是最烂的线缆。欧盟共产主义者宣布只允许存在一种标准且必须是 USB-C，这让每个人的生活都变糟了。这些线缆用两个月就坏了。Micro-USB 或 Lightning 线缆从来没出现过这种情况。
>>109367564
Are you people buying your usb c cables from Temu or something? I have mutiple years old usb c cables that are still working fine with daily use
你们是去速卖通还是什么平台买 USB-C 线缆的吗？我手里那些用了好几年的 USB-C 线缆，每天用都完好无损。
>>109365974
we add screws to both sides, like the old vga/dvi connectors.
咱们像老式的 VGA/DVI 接口那样，在两边都加螺丝固定。
miniUSB was the best.
Mini-USB 才是最好的。
I never had a single one break.
我从来没见过一根坏掉的。
>>109365974
this dude sounds like cancer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkcP6reSTEw
any way his problem is missing labels and yes I agree labels should be included and its retarded that the EU didnt force them when they forced usb c. Still I fail to see how its expansive isnt pic all you need?
总之他的问题是缺标签，我同意应该包含标签，欧盟强迫使用 USB-C 时却没强迫加标签，这真是蠢到家了。但我还是看不懂，不就是一张贴纸吗，还需要什么？
>>109365974
Linus fixed it, buy his cable.
Linus 已经解决了这个问题，买他的线缆吧。
>>109367634
>pic of a cheapo shit cable without strain relief that some German put a sticker on
>贴了个德国人贴的贴纸的廉价烂线缆，还没加固
>>109367703
show me a good one then
那你给我找个好的看看。
>>109367708
>good
>好的
>usb-c
There is none.
没有这种东西。
But if you want one that is less shit, just make sure that it has a strain relief, this one >>109367696 actually does, lol
但如果你想买没那么烂的，只要确保它有应力消除（加固）设计就行，这个 >>109367696 实际上就有，哈哈
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