Why aren't you on Urbit yet?
你怎么还没上 Urbit？
你怎么还没上 Urbit？
>>109321641
Use case for the feudal system of Galaxy owners who have downline Stars nobles who have downline Planets knights who have downline Moons plebs who have downline Comet peasants?
银河系所有者封建制度的用例是什么？他们下面有子爵Star，Star下面有骑士Planet，Planet下面有平民Moon，Moon下面还有农民Comet？
Buy an ad, Curtis.
买条广告吧，Curtis。
>>109322130
only if you buy a planet
除非你买个星球
>>109321797
You get invited to the ketamine parties
你就能受邀参加氯胺酮派对
why would i want to play command line star citizen?
我干嘛要玩命令行版的星际公民？
>>109321641
No idea what that is but from the name alone I can assure you that I will not be on "Urbit" at any time in the future either.
不知道那是什么，但光看名字我就可以保证，未来我也不会在“Urbit”上。
>>109324584
imagine being at "computers"
想象一下在“计算机”上
>>109324591
>computer
>to compute: verb
>to compute: 动词
>computer
>device meant for computing
>用于计算的装置
>urbit
>to be on reddit and gay
>在Reddit上并且是基佬
>>109324602
>appeal to definition
>诉诸定义
heh, reddit much?
哈哈，很Reddit啊
>>109324503
cool people on there
那上面的人都很酷
>>109321641
i looked this up
我查了一下
it seems like a parody of web3 but i think it's being serious
看起来像是Web3的 parody（戏仿），但我觉得他们是认真的
i read the website, i saw nock, i saw hoon, urbit os, i only ask... where's the beef? why am i using this?
我看了官网，看到了Nock，看到了Hoon，看到了Urbit OS，我就问一句……亮点在哪？我为啥要用这玩意儿？
>>109324947
>why am i using this?
>我为啥要用这玩意儿？
urbit's memetic power has already got you using it without realizing it... hmmm... yes...
Urbit的模因力量早就让你不知不觉在用它了……嗯哼……是啊……
just read
自己去读
>>109321641
You should refund whoever paid you to post this ad, you did a shit job.
你应该把付钱让你发这广告的客户的钱退回去，你活儿干得太烂了。
https://opensea.io/collection/urbit-id-star/explore
Lots of cheap stars right now, maybe you should consider buying some.
现在有很多便宜的Star，要不你考虑买一个？
>>109324976
>Urbit is a simple personal server (Urbit OS), a peer-to-peer network of those servers, and a decentralized identity standard (Urbit ID) for that network and beyond.
>Urbit是一个简单的个人服务器（Urbit OS），这些服务器的点对点网络，以及该网络及更广泛领域的去中心化身份标准（Urbit ID）。
again, where is the beef
再说一遍，亮点在哪
>you can browse information similar to the world wide web
>你可以浏览类似万维网的信息
> you can play games and connect with other players
>你可以玩游戏并与其他玩家连接
> you can watch porno in 4k and save to your favorites
>你可以看4k裸片并收藏到 favorites
what does it do?
这到底有啥用？
>>109321641
I dunno. That Loper-OS clown (who thankfully seems to have been blown up in a drone strike) absolutely hate[s|d] it - so that means it's almost certainly good.
我不知道。那个Loper-OS小丑（幸好听说他被无人机炸死了）绝对 hate[s|d] 它——所以这意味着它肯定是好东西。
>>109325241
Did you just invent Usenet again?
你是不是重新发明了Usenet？
>>109325241
https://urbitguide.com/urbit-whitepaper-explained/
I actually forgot about this site.
我其实都忘了这网站了。
no shade on Yarvin's politics or whatever but urbit is the most fart sniffing thing I've ever seen in my life. i don't know why he keeps throwing names like orbius and hoon and arvo around. does he think it sounds cool? we get it you like borges. also that elves and orcs shit, cthulhu always swims left shit. come on
我不针对Yarvin的政治观点什么的，但Urbit是我这辈子见过最矫情做作、故弄玄虚的东西。我真搞不懂他为啥老是抛出Orbius、Hoon、Arvo这种名字。他以为这样听起来很酷吗？懂了，你喜欢博尔赫斯。还有那套精灵与兽人的屎、克苏鲁永远左转的屎。拜托
>>109325337
peak midwit
典型的半桶水
this is a shitpost i would write to parody the people making fun of yarvin but you wrote it with a straight face, congrats retard
这帖子要是用来讽刺那些嘲讽Yarvin的人还挺像那么回事，但你居然一本正经地写出来，恭喜你个智障
>>109325384
did you know you can read unqualified reservations without pretending he's a computer genius, without blowing a load every time he peppers his writings with gay little references to nerd shit?
你知道在不把他装成计算机天才、不在他文章里满嘴都是那种 gay 的小众极客梗时喷粪的情况下，你也可以读无保留的反对意见吗？
>>109325420
wrong way around
反了
he's a computer genius while being a complete retard political theorist or whatever he might call himself
他是个计算机天才，同时也是个彻头彻尾的政治理论白痴，或者不管他自称什么
>>109325488
well we can at least agree his views on politics aren't impressive. alright
好吧，我们至少能同意他对政治的看法没啥了不起。行了
>>109321641
>There are multiple ways to get an Urbit ID. You can purchase a Layer 1 Azimuth-based identity on an NFT marketplace, get a Layer 2 identity from a 3rd party vendor using Bitcoin or fiat
>有多种方式获取Urbit ID。你可以在NFT市场购买基于Azimuth的L1身份，或者用比特币或法币从第三方卖家那里获得L2身份
lol no
哈哈 不
>>109327169
>>109278626
>>109321797
>Galaxy owners
>Galaxy 拥有者
i'm one of them. cope, pleb.
我就是其中一个。自我安慰吧，底层渣滓。
so its like nft usernames?
所以这就像NFT用户名？
>>109327772
urbit is actually more useful than nfts
Urbit 其实比NFT有用多了
>>109327128
ペロペロ
>>109325206
>>109321641
>>109328253
Please for god's sake fuck off to /biz/ with your ponzi of the month.
看在上帝的份上，滚去 /biz/ 跟你那月度庞氏骗局吧。
>>109329086
sneeed faggot
滚远点
>>109325337
>i don't know why he keeps throwing names like orbius and hoon and arvo around
>我真搞不懂他为啥老是抛出Orbius、Hoon、Arvo这种名字
Because he is based
因为他很硬核
any star owners ITT?
这帖里有Star拥有者吗？
>>109333532
>digital ID
>数字身份
age verification when
什么时候搞年龄验证？
It's a cool idea but I think it's wise to stay far away from anything tangentially related to this freak
想法挺酷，但我认为明智的做法是离这个疯子及其任何沾边的事物远点
>>109333532
>>109334999
It's more like an Address than a digital identity tied to a person.
这更像是一个地址，而不是绑定在个人身上的数字身份。
>>109337051
forgot pic
忘了配图
you can also read the white paper >>109325298
你也可以读白皮书 >>109325298
>>109337000
thiel is such faggot
Thiel 真是个傻逼
>>109327756
Yeah but how many ship jpegs do you own?
是啊，但你到底持有多少张船的 JPEG 图？
>>109333532
Klaus Schwab would love the Urbit ID because it perfectly embodies the World Economic Forum's vision of digital governance: a finite, immutable, and permanent digital identity tied to a cryptographic ledger. It eliminates chaotic anonymity, enforces long-term accountability through built-in reputation tracking, and creates a highly structured, tiered digital feudalism where every interaction is protocol-driven and escape is impossible.
克劳斯·施瓦布会很喜欢 Urbit ID，因为它完美体现了世界经济论坛对数字治理的愿景：一种有限的、不可变的、永久的数字身份，绑定在加密账本上。它消除了混乱的匿名性，通过内置的声誉追踪来强制长期的问责制，并创造了一个高度结构化、分层级的数字封建主义体系，在这里每一次交互都由协议驱动，且无处可逃。
>>109338514
You don't own the jpegs (sigils), you own the address identity. The sigils themselves are algorithmically generated from the @p, e.g.
你拥有的不是 JPEG（sigils），你拥有的是地址身份。Sigils 本身是从 @p 算法生成的，例如：
> `@u`~barzod-barzod
3.118.007.915
(Those are not decimals, Urbit uses German notation.)
（那些不是十进制，Urbit 使用德国记数法。）
Your entire identity is an unsigned integer, really.
你的整个身份本质上就是一个无符号整数。
So you don't own a jpeg, you own an int.
所以你不是在拥有 JPEG，你拥有的是一个整数。
You're welcome.
不客气。
>>109321641
kek it's a literal pyramid scheme
哈哈哈，这就是个彻头彻尾的金字塔骗局
>>109339224
Pyramid schemes aren't inherently bad.
金字塔骗局本质上并不坏。
Nock 4K
诺克 4K
A noun is an atom or a cell. An atom is a natural number. A cell is an ordered pair of nouns.
一个 noun（名词/节点）是一个 atom（原子）或者一个 cell（单元）。一个 atom 是一个自然数。一个 cell 是两个 noun 的有序对。
Reduce by the first matching pattern; variables match any noun.
按第一个匹配的模式进行归约；变量匹配任何 noun。
nock(a) *a
箭扣(a) *a
[a b c] [a [b c]]
?[a b] 0
?a 1
+[a b] +[a b]
+a 1 + a
=[a a] 0
=[a b] 1
/[1 a] a
/[2 a b] a
/[3 a b] b
/[(a + a) b] /[2 /[a b]]
/[(a + a + 1) b] /[3 /[a b]]
/a /a
#[1 a b] a
#[(a + a) b c] #[a [b /[(a + a + 1) c]] c]
#[(a + a + 1) b c] #[a [/[(a + a) c] b] c]
#a #a
*[a [b c] d] [*[a b c] *[a d]]
*[a 0 b] /[b a]
*[a 1 b] b
*[a 2 b c] *[*[a b] *[a c]]
*[a 3 b] ?*[a b]
*[a 4 b] +*[a b]
*[a 5 b c] =[*[a b] *[a c]]
*[a 6 b c d] *[a *[[c d] 0 *[[2 3] 0 *[a 4 4 b]]]]
*[a 7 b c] *[*[a b] c]
*[a 8 b c] *[[*[a b] a] c]
*[a 9 b c] *[*[a c] 2 [0 1] 0 b]
*[a 10 [b c] d] #[b *[a c] *[a d]]
*[a 11 [b c] d] *[[*[a c] *[a d]] 0 3]
*[a 11 b c] *[a c]
*a *a
>>109323333
I thought they blew through their ketamine budget and that's why Curtis had to come back.
我还以为他们耗光了氯胺酮的预算，所以 Curtis 才不得不回来。
>>109329086
This particular ponzi they've been dragging out for years. Predates Bitcoin even.
这个他们拖了好几年的庞氏骗局，甚至早于比特币。
>>109338514
Not answering retarded questions.
不回答弱智问题。
Urbit found the only non-retarded use-case for NFTs so far.
Urbit 是目前为止找到的唯一一个不弱智的 NFT 用例。
>>109339224
life is a pyramid scheme nigger
生活就是个金字塔骗局黑鬼
imagine being confused that the literal monarchist built something with a dedicated hierarchy
想象一下，居然对一位 literally 的君主制拥护者建造了一个拥有专门等级制度的东西感到困惑
>>109344549
Yes, but only the people at the top of the pyramid make a profit. Everybody below the top few layers just gets cucked. So if you're going to be in a pyramid scheme, make sure you're near the top. Otherwise save your money and don't.
是的，但只有金字塔顶层的人能赚钱。顶层以下的所有人都只是被绿了。所以如果非要参与金字塔骗局，确保你在顶部附近。否则省点钱别碰。
>>109337163
Pot pee? Why do they pee in a pot???
尿罐？为什么他们往尿罐里尿尿？？？
>>109327128
any hentai of her?
有她的 hentai 吗？
aren't there a bunch of insane design decisions in urbit?
Urbit 里不是一堆疯狂的的设计决策吗？
https://wejn.org/2021/02/urbit-good-bad-insane/
>>109343280
wasn't urbit around before NFTS?
Urbit 不是早就存在了吗，比 NFTs 早？
From the name and branding alone I can already tell you that is a waste of time made by some soiyim techbro vibecoded with Claude.
光从名字和品牌来看，我就已经知道这是些硅谷科技佬用 Claude vibe coding 出来的浪费时间的项目。
>"Nock, for mysterious reasons, uses 0 as true...and 1 as false..."
>“Nock，出于神秘的原因，用 0 代表真...而用 1 代表假...”
>>109344874
wtf is nock
到底什么是 nock
>>109344841
It was, but they introduced Azimuth to act as the network's PKI.
是，但他们引入了 Azimuth 来充当网络的 PKI。
> Azimuth is a general-purpose PKI ("public key infrastructure") that Urbit uses as an identity system. This system is implemented as a suite of smart contracts on the Ethereum blockchain, and it determines which Ethereum addresses own which Urbit planets, stars, or galaxies. In Arvo, a single identity is called a "ship," whereas in Azimuth, a single identity is called a "point."
> Azimuth 是一个通用型 PKI（公钥基础设施），Urbit 将其用作身份系统。该系统作为一套智能合约在以太坊区块链上实现，它决定了哪些以太坊地址拥有哪些 Urbit 星球、恒星或星系。在 Arvo 中，单个身份被称为“ship”（飞船），而在 Azimuth 中，单个身份被称为“point”（点）。
>>109344864
>Some onions I'm techbro
>“我是科技佬洋葱头”
Lol he is one of the most based programmers alive you tard
笑死，他是目前还活着的最硬核的程序员之一，你这个傻子
He's a legend on the new right and basically created the intellectual framework of new conservatism.
他是新右派的传奇人物，基本上创立了新保守主义的智识框架。
>>109346662
>>109348449
>Nock is Urbit's novel assembly language
>Nock 是 Urbit 全新的汇编语言
>Nock is interpreted by the Urbit runtime written in C.
>Nock 由用 C 编写的 Urbit 运行时解释执行。
So they cloned LISP, call it an ASM clone, but under the hood it's INTERPRETED by C so actually nowhere near ASM or C performance but closer to python?
所以他们克隆了 LISP，叫它 ASM 克隆版，但底层其实是 C 解释执行的，所以性能跟 ASM 或 C 完全没法比，反而更接近 Python？
Istg these people...
我发誓，这帮人真是……
>>109346662
NFT cock
NFT 鸡儿
>>109339178
>look mommy, I paid top dollar for these unicode characters
>看老妈子，老子花大价钱买了这些 Unicode 字符
wow Timmy great job
哇哦，蒂米，干得不错
>>109321641
>permanent ID
>永久 ID
>YOU CANT CHANGE IT
>you can set a nickname though
>不过你可以设置个昵称
Just generate a random fucking number then. Dumb fucks.
随便生成个他妈的随机数不就行了。一群蠢货。
>>109348616
I really don't understand what your problem is.
我真的搞不懂你在那不爽啥。
>>109321641
It's really funny how far-right retards keep doing the exact things they blame leftists of doing and then double-down when attacked about it.
超搞笑的是，那些极右翼智障总是干着他们指责左派做的事，被怼了还加倍奉还。
Anyway this is the most retarded shit I've ever seen. The thing that has moved me more to the center than anything else is how dumb people can be so easily separated from their money
总之这是我见过最弱智的东西。比任何东西都让我向中间派靠拢的，是看到人们能被如此轻易地掏空钱包有多蠢。
>>109349347
>>>/r/eddit
>>109348534
is this bait
这是钓鱼吗
>>109321641
>crypto
>NFT-esque
>pyramid scheme
>庞氏骗局
yeah go kill yourself nigger
去死吧你个黑鬼
>>109350420
there is no cryptocurrency
根本没有加密货币这种东西
>>109350444
You can get a free ship from https://tlon.io
Post your ID in the thread if you've managed to get one.
如果你搞到了 ID，把它发到帖子里。
>>109350861
No.
>>109350899
:(
>>109350444
It's dead, Jim.
已经凉透了，吉姆。
Do any anons here know Hoon?
这里的匿名者有人知道 Hoon 吗？
>>109325241
AOL 2.0
>>109353278
damn it nigga i posted that last week
真他妈倒霉，黑鬼，我上周就发过了
stop necroposting
别挖坟了
>>109353321
whoops sorry man!!! didn't know we did dib calling, tee hee!
哎呀抱歉哥们！！！不知道这里有叫占坑的习惯，嘻嘻！
>>109353351
*humps your leg*
*蹭你的腿*
An atom is any natural number.
原子是任何自然数。
A noun is an atom or a cell.
名词是原子或单元。
A cell is any ordered pair of nouns.
单元是任意有序的名词对。
>>109355773
how?
nock nock
诺克 诺克
>>109321797
Ownership begets civility and therefore civilization
所有权孕育文明，进而催生文明社会
>>109324881
This
>>109325337
The fart-sniffing names keep the normies away until it’s ready and not before
那些放屁吸屁的怪名能把普通大众挡在外面，直到它准备好为止，绝不提前
>>109344841
Correct
They put Urbit identities on Ethereum because they didn’t want the ledger of who owns what to be an Excel file in their own office
他们把 Urbit 身份搞到以太坊上，是因为不想让所有权账本变成他们办公室里的一份 Excel 表格
>>109350861
~tiddys-hodler
>>109325337
>no shade on Yarvin's politics
>不针对耶尔文的政治立场
he's the definition of a controlled opposition kike grifter
他就是受控反对派那套犹太骗子定义的化身
>>109337163
>>109337000
>it's a cool idea
>点子挺酷
how? what does it do? what problem does it solve?
怎么酷？它能干嘛？解决了什么问题？
>>109325337
>no shade on the fact that this guy is a jew, but why is he trying to scam me with this weird pseudointellectual nonsense
>不针对这家伙是个犹太人这点，但他为什么想用这种奇怪的伪知识分子废话来骗我？
Just a coincidence I guess
大概只是个巧合吧
>>109357398
it solves computing
它解决了计算问题
>>109357388
muh controlled opposition
受控反对派
>>109344820
soon
>>109321641
Is this better than reitculum or i2p, and if so, why so?
这比 Reticulum 或 I2P 好吗？如果是，为什么？
>>109361017
Urbit can run on I2P or Reticulum.
Urbit 可以在 I2P 或 Reticulum 上运行。
>>109337163
>we're gonna make you a stupid ID card
>我们要给你做个愚蠢的身份证
>no, not in the regular ID card size, it's wide enough to not fit in your wallet
>不，不是常规身份证尺寸，它太宽了，放不进钱包
>no, it's not a smart card - you will have to take a photo or transcribe it manually
>不，它不是智能卡——你得拍照或手动转录
>no, it's not an nfc card. stop asking!
>不，它不是 NFC 卡。别问了！
>>109344841
> Nothing in Urbit is encrypted at rest.
> Urbit 中没有任何数据在静态存储时加密。
What is loving HECK ?!?!? Fuck no. Im out. This stupid fucking project doesnt even make sense. Like what the hell is its end goal?? Basing your shit off buttcoins is stupid as fuck. Requiring users buy in before you even have something to offer is also dumb af.
什么是 HECK？！？！ 去你的。我撤了。这愚蠢的项目根本说不通。到底它的终极目标是什么？？？基于“屁币”来做东西蠢爆了。连产品都没有就要求用户先掏钱，这也太他妈蠢了。
>>109357398
it's a gatekeeping mechanism to keep turbo normies out of your forums and to return the internet to a majority p2p experience. I guess
这是一种门槛机制，用来把超级普通大众挡在你的论坛外面，并让互联网回归大多数 P2P 体验。我猜吧
>>109363637
are you ok
你没事吧
>>109364060
Yarvin is actually working on a forum and Signal clone right now. His forum is directly inspired by old Usenet.
亚尔文现在确实正在做一个论坛和 Signal 的克隆版。他的论坛直接受到了旧式 Usenet 的启发。
>>109321641
Whats the point of this shit? everything i read about it is so vague
搞这破玩意儿有什么意义？我读到的所有东西都含糊其辞。
>buy a ID or get invited
>买 ID 或受邀加入
yeah another scam
是啊，又一个骗局。
>>109367007
>>109350861
>>109357398
It separates you from your money in return for an NFT.
它用 NFT 换取你的钱，让你跟钱分离。
>>109367024
>>109337163
Isn't descentralized P2P network better? i mean what stops mossad fed niggers to track people down if this shit gets popular?
去中心化的 P2P 网络不是更好吗？我是说，如果这破玩意儿火了，有什么能阻止摩萨德 fed 黑鬼们追踪到人呢？
>>109367185
so there is no reason to touch this shit then
既然这样，那就没理由碰这破玩意儿了。
>>109367198
None whatsoever.
完全没有。
>>109367160
this is a decentralized P2P network
这是一个去中心化的 P2P 网络
hey urbit fags: if you want people to join, maybe you should post some screenshots of discussions and other content on urbit?
嘿，Urbit 粉：如果你想让别人加入，或许你们应该贴点 Urbit 上讨论和其他内容的截图？
Klaus Schwab would be absolutely thrilled about Urbit’s structural design.The World Economic Forum founder would see the ultimate digital manifestation of top-down governance. Urbit replaces the chaotic modern web with a strict, immutable, neo-feudal hierarchy:
克劳斯·施瓦布会对 Urbit 的结构设计兴奋不已。世界经济论坛创始人会看到自上而下治理在数字世界的终极体现。Urbit 用严格的、不可改变的、新封建等级制度取代了混乱的现代互联网：
Galaxies govern the infrastructure.
星系（Galaxies）治理基础设施。
Stars control the traffic.
恒星（Stars）控制流量。
Planets (the citizens) obey the protocol.
行星（公民）服从协议。
This 8-bit digital caste system would fit the Great Reset perfectly. Davos would no longer need physical governments. They would simply control the IP routing of the cosmos from a Swiss resort, upgrading the famous meme: "You will own no data, and your planet will be happy."
这个 8 位数字种姓制度简直就是“大重置”的完美搭档。达沃斯不再需要实体政府。他们只需在瑞士度假胜地控制整个宇宙的 IP 路由，升级那个著名的梗：“你将不拥有任何数据，你的行星会感到快乐。”
>>109369018
Thanks, Grok.
谢了，Grok。
>>109368944
No.
Its amazing that all of these supposedly "democratizing, open" technologies like a lot of crypto bullshit and the entire "web3" abortion are designed specifically for profiteering; they're no more open, they're designed to get you to buy into their platform, coin etc..or otherwise make use of it. Kinda like watching all of the crypto assets that have "supernodes" for passive income overlords, but you can't be a part of that unless you have like 1000 currency (and if you learn about it before its even $1 per asset its still expensive, but afterward its insanely so) AND they cannot be subdivided properly. If they really cared about a wide userbase and a strong plurality of nodes so that nobody could launch an attack, having someone run a supernode that is broken into 1000 parts or or whatever and each person gets 1/1000th the passive credit from running it would be good, but they don't do that. Its designed to make sure the rich get richer and the gullible have something to buy
真他妈离谱，这些所谓“去中心化、开放”的技术——比如一堆加密货币的狗屎和整个“Web3”这坨 abortion——其实都是专门为牟利而设计的；它们根本不开源，只是设计出来让你买他们的平台、代币之类的东西，或者迫使你使用它们。这就好比看着那些靠“超级节点”搞被动收入的寄生虫们，但你除非手里有上万个代币（就算在它一文不值的时候了解它已经很贵，后面更是贵到离谱），否则根本没法加入。而且这些代币还无法合理分割。如果真在乎广大用户和多数节点以防止攻击，让某人运行一个超级节点，然后拆成1000份，每个人拿1/1000的被动收益还行，但他们偏不这么做。这设计就是为了确保富者愈富，而韭菜们有东西可买罢了。
Its easy to see there are plenty of other networks that do this shit a lot better without the
很容易看出，其实有很多其他网络能更好地做这件事，而不需要……
>I'm buying virtual land for real money at a jacked up artificial scarcity price, those who have more stuff also get to set all the rules! Isn't this going to be so great and different than the corrupt world we live in?!
>我用真金白银高价买入虚拟土地，拥有越多东西的人就制定所有规则！这难道不比我们身处的腐败世界更伟大、更不同吗？！
feudal system. It would be one thing if the guy came out and basically claimed it was intentionally designed for you to be ruled over by your 'betters' but all of this shit tries to get the sheep to corral themselves. Fucking insane.
封建制度。如果那人站出来明说“这玩意儿就是故意设计成让你被‘上层阶级’统治的”，那还差不多。但这堆狗屎却试图让羊群自我圈养。简直他妈的疯癫。
>>109369257
>feudal system. It would be one thing if the guy came out and basically claimed it was intentionally designed for you to be ruled over by your 'betters' but all of this shit tries to get the sheep to corral themselves. Fucking insane.
>封建制度。如果那人站出来明说“这玩意儿就是故意设计成让你被‘上层阶级’统治的”，那还差不多。但这堆狗屎却试图让羊群自我圈养。简直他妈的疯癫。
moldbug calls himself a reactionary. off course its going to be techno feudalism.
moldbug 自称反动派。既然是这样，那就是技术封建主义呗。
>>109369257
>crypto, web3
>加密货币，Web3
stopped reading there
读到这儿我就看不下去了
urbit is not web3
Urbit 不是 Web3
kys
>>109367185
so is Tor
also no it's not
再说一遍，它不是
>>109369371
He didn't say it was, he said it was similar in being a retarded scam.
他没说是，他说它只是个蠢到爆的骗局，这点很像。
>>109370362
not a scam
不是骗局
you get what you pay for
一分钱一分货
>>109368944
It's so fucking slow and buggy it's unusable
这玩意儿又慢又满是bug，根本没法用
>>109370457
source?
What's the difference between Urbit and Internet Computer?
Urbit 和 Internet Computer 有什么区别？
>>109321797
Pretty good ebussy effortpost, desu.
desu，这写得相当不错，是个好帖子。
This thing (Urbit) always seemed like yet another crypto copycat early adopter pyramid scheme.
这东西（Urbit）看起来总是像又一种加密货币跟风者的金字塔骗局。
And its main selling point was less censorship of rightwing speech, and it came to prominence when leftwing globohomo poz culture was at its zenith (around 2015ish), but since then, "Big Tech" has become much more tolerant of rightwing speech, and Urbit was always authoritarian, rather than libertarian right, so the concerns people have today about digital ID, trusted computing and whatnot aren't addressed by it.
它的主要卖点是减少右翼言论的审查，当它在左右翼“全球主义同性恋波兹文化”巅峰时期（大约2015年左右）崭露头角时，后来“大型科技公司”对右翼言论的容忍度变高了，而 Urbit 一贯是极权主义的，而不是右翼自由意志主义，所以人们今天对数字身份、可信计算等方面的担忧，它并没有解决。
>>109372233
Urbit is for your own little data, your own personal server. ICP stores data on the blockchain and tries to replace datacenters.
Urbit 是为你自己的小数据、你自己的个人服务器而设的。ICP 把数据存储在区块链上，并试图替代数据中心。
>>109370366
what do you get?
你能得到什么？
>>109373399
Calm computing.
冷静计算。
>>109373661
You don't even try to make your product appealing to people and then you're surprised that no one is interested.
你连让产品吸引人这点心思都不花，结果没人感兴趣你还感到惊讶。
>>109373692
"people"
you mean cattle?
你是说牛？
they can stay on Facebook for all I care
管他死活，让他们待在 Facebook 上得了
not everyone even deserves a computer
不是每个人都配拥有一台电脑
if you've read the docs, and watched the explanatory videos and podcasts talking about urbit, and still don't get it, then you're just not meant for it
如果你读了文档，看了那些关于 Urbit 的解释视频和播客，还是搞不懂，那你本来就不适合它
plenty of well respected people i know understand urbit and think it's quite genius even if they dislike some specific parts of it
我身边不少有威望的人都懂 Urbit，觉得它挺天才的，哪怕他们不喜欢其中某些特定部分
>>109373734
then why are you here?
那你为什么在这儿？
>>109373763
to suffer
来受苦
If Urbit is supposed to be so cool, then why does Moldbug spend so much time on X?
如果 Urbit supposed to 这么酷，那 Moldbug 为什么在 X 上花那么多时间？
>>109373810
what a stupid question to ask
这问题蠢爆了
>>109321641
sick of seeing this retarded shill campaign because it's working on me
看腻了这个弱智软文推广，因为它确实对我起作用了
>>109374497
Urbit can never revoke your account?
Urbit 永远不能撤销你的账户？
>>109374536
Correct. You own the keys.
没错。密钥归你所有。
>>109374532
this thing has (had) KING CRYPTOLANDERS, Urbit has Galaxy owners. Cryptoland is better though.
这玩意儿有（曾经有）国王加密陆币（KING CRYPTOLANDERS），Urbit 有银河系所有者。不过加密陆币更好。
hey anons add me ~mopful-rapnym
嘿，匿名者们加我 ~mopful-rapnym
You can browse the network as a comet if you just get the binary and run
你只要下载二进制文件并运行，就可以以彗星节点身份浏览网络
./urbit -c comet
运行命令 `./urbit -c comet` 来创建一个 comet 类型的 Urbit 节点。
Anyone tried vibe slopping some software together for urbit?
有人尝试用 vibe slopping 技术给 Urbit 拼凑出些软件吗？
>>109350861
~dovhex-timrus
I always post my ID in these urbit threads and no one ever responds
我总在这些 Urbit 帖子下面发我的 ID，但从来没人回应
>>109375340
nock nock
诺克 诺克
>>109321641
What the actual fuck even is this thing?
这玩意儿到底是什么鬼？
Is it an OS?
Is it an app?
是个应用吗？
Is it an anonymizing network?
是个匿名网络吗？
Is it a browser?
是个浏览器吗？
Is it a web platform?
是个网页平台吗？
>>109376802
It's an OS.
>>109375564
whos there?
谁在那儿？
>>109376807
~sorreg-namtyv
>be a neoreactionary blogger
>是个新反应博客主
>build an weird internet thingy based on the Indian caste system
>基于印度种姓制度搞了个奇怪的互联网玩意儿
>make the use case as convoluted and opaque as possible
>把使用案例搞得尽可能错综复杂、晦涩难懂
>bro, read the 1,000 pieces of documentation and listen to the podcasts!
>兄弟，去读那 1,000 份文档，听播客啊！
>convince people on /g/ to spend real money on virtual objects
>在 /g/ 版块说服人们花钱买虚拟物品
>it's definitely not a scam
>这绝对不是骗局
GOOD MORNING MOLDBUG.
You are pronouncing your runes correctly right anon? https://docs.urbit.org/build-on-urbit/hoon-school
colketpar
>>109376948
> This includes '~', pronounced 'sig'. So what is their logo? A sig rune...!
> 其中包括 '~'，发音为 'sig'。所以他们的 Logo 是什么？一个 sig 符文...！
>>109321641
>use system created by Neo-reactionary leader who is labeled by the US Gov as a known terrorist group leader
>使用由新反应派领袖创建的该系统，该领袖被美国政府列为已知恐怖组织领导人
Yeah..
>>109376802
it's a scam
这就是个骗局
>anons love curtis
>匿名者们都喜欢 Curtis
>anons hate jews
>匿名者们都恨犹太人
>anons hate thiel
>匿名者们都恨 Thiel
Self reflection is a vitue. Maybe one day you kids will follow something that makes sense.
自我反省是一种美德。也许有一天你们这些小子会去追随某些讲得通的东西。
Also, don't take the internet too seriously.
另外，别太把互联网当回事。
>>109379475
Yes
>>109376862
that nigger's garbage has always been astroturfed by thiel. i bet this thread was made by one of them
那黑鬼的垃圾一直被 Thiel 水军操控。我打赌这个帖子就是他们做的
>>109380898
hello, it's me, peter thiel
你好，我是彼得·蒂尔
i made this thread
这个帖子是我做的
you're welcome
不客气
see you on urbit
Urbit 上见
>>109321641
Have you seen the new show? It's on Tubu. It's literally on Heebee. It's on Poodee with ads. It's literally on Dippy. You can probably find it on Weeno. Dude it's on Gumpy. It's a Pheebo original. It's on Poob. You can watch it on Poob. You can go to Poob and watch it. Log onto Poob right now. Go to Poob. Dive into Poob. You can Poob it. It's on Poob. Poob has it for you. Poob has it for you.
你看过那个新剧吗？它在 Tubu 上播。它真的在 Heebee 上播。它在 Poodee 上播，带广告。它真的在 Dippy 上播。你大概能在 Weeno 上找到。哥们，它在 Gumpy 上播。这是 Pheebo 的原创。它在 Poob 上。你可以在 Poob 上看。你可以去 Poob 看。现在就登录 Poob。去 Poob。潜入 Poob。你可以 Poob 一下。它在 Poob 上。Poob 为你准备了它。Poob 为你准备了它。
>>109321641
>buy something you know is useless and retarded in the hopes that you can sell it to someone even dumber than yourself
>买一些你明知没用又脑残的东西，指望能把它卖给比你更蠢的人
tiresome
>>109381266
i am never selling my 10+ stars tho
不过我是绝不会卖掉我那10+星的
>>109376948
>>109381339
HODL, anon. They'll be worth a fortune.
拿住吧，匿名网友。它们将来会价值连城。
>>109376802
It sort of is all those, while also being none and then asking for money to use it without solving anything of need. Basically this>>109377821
它确实算是所有这些的混合体，但又不完全是，然后还要求付钱才能用，却解决不了任何实际需求。 basically 就是这>>109377821
>>109348032
Sounds like the typical SV schizophrenic narcissist. I won't be using this garbage.
听起来像是典型的硅谷精神分裂式自恋狂。我才不用这种垃圾。
>>109344864
>some soiyim techbro
>某个索尼伊姆（索尼伊姆是硅 valley 科技新贵的黑称）科技兄弟
jej
>>109384536
You don't need to pay anything to use it. It's free. And open source.
使用它不需要付任何钱。它是免费的。而且是开源的。
Yarvin hasn't been involved with Urbit for like a decade now
亚尔文（Yarvin）大概有十年没参与 Urbit 的相关事务了
I don't know exactly what is this, but it sounds like yet another P2P network that no one will use.
我不太清楚这到底是个啥，但听起来又是另一个没人会用的 P2P 网络。
>>109387486
>public group
>公共群组
>>109387553
He's building a company and set of social applications that RUN on Urbit and are in active development. Wut?
他正在建立一家公司，以及一套在 Urbit 上运行且处于积极开发阶段的社会应用。啥？
Is this where we post addresses that are plausibly deniably ours? I'm ~bidtyp-sontev and am essentially inactive but I added the nyms above for the LOLs.
我们是不是在这里发布那些具有合理否认性的地址？ 我是 ~bidtyp-sontev，基本上已经退隐了，但我加上上面的匿名 ID 只是为了乐一乐。
I like retrocomputing old systems because its not PCshit or MACshit. Its like visiting a whole nother world. In which case creating a LISP alike functional like weirdo language on top of a PDP-8 RISC designed while on LSD sounds like a good time to me. I like it because its complicated and interesting. Babylon 5 the operating system, OK then.
我喜欢复古计算旧系统，因为它们不是 PCshit 也不是 MACshit。 它就像是在访问另一个完全不同的世界。 在这种情况下，在 PDP-8 上创建一个类似 LISP 的函数式怪异语言，而且是在服用 LSD 时设计的 RISC 架构，听起来对我来说挺好玩的。 我喜欢它因为它的复杂和有趣。 巴比伦5号操作系统，好吧，那就这样吧。
>>109343280
Ironically your ID is a ERC-721 NFT on ethereum.
讽刺的是，你的 ID 是以太坊上的一个 ERC-721 NFT。
Imagine buying a SSL cert to use as a SSH login and ID in general except its delivered as a NFT instead of, I donno, in an email or download it.
想象一下买一个 SSL 证书来用作 SSH 登录和一般的身份标识，但它作为 NFT 交付，而不是通过电子邮件发送或下载，我说不清是哪种方式。
Ethereum gas fees were $$$ so they went to the effort of creating a L2 roller and now ETH gas fees are a fraction of a penny so L2 doesn't seem to matter other than not having to keep an ETH balance laying around.
以太坊 gas 费当时高达 $$$，所以他们费力搞出了一个 L2 滚动层，现在 ETH gas 费连一分钱都不到，所以 L2 除了不需要留着 ETH 余额在旁边外，似乎并不那么重要。
Urbit is expensive enough to keep the clankers and the mentally ill away but cheap enough that it doesn't matter, my lunch today was more expensive than my planets. I have accumulated several over the last decade or so.
Urbit 足够昂贵以阻止那些 clankers（指像机器人一样死板的人）和精神病患者，但也足够便宜以至于没什么所谓，我今天的午餐比我的星球还贵。 我在这十年左右的时间里已经积累了好几个星球。
I am completely uninterested in gentlemen of an african american persuasion demanding I provide a "use case" its more of a performance art piece to me or a visit to a space alien colony as the internet is taken over by NPCs and clankers.
我对那些黑人绅士要求我提供“用例”完全没兴趣。对我来说这更像是一件行为艺术作品，或者像是访问外星人殖民地，当互联网被 NPC 和 clankers 接管时。
>>109394240
>Urbit is expensive enough to keep the clankers and the mentally ill away but cheap enough that it doesn't matter, my lunch today was more expensive than my planets. I have accumulated several over the last decade or so.
>Urbit 足够昂贵以阻止那些 clankers（指像机器人一样死板的人）和精神病患者，但也足够便宜以至于没什么所谓，我今天的午餐比我的星球还贵。 我在这十年左右的时间里已经积累了好几个星球。
I tried searching topics for discussions around some topic on Xitter, and most of the results that came back were SEO blogspam. Not to mention all the Indians farming engagement revenue in replies. Utter nonsense.
我试着在 Xitter 上搜索围绕某个主题的讨论，结果大部分返回的都是 SEO 博客垃圾。更别提那些在回复中刷互动收入的印度人了。纯粹的一派胡言。
>>109390899
comets can join
彗星可以加入
so yea
所以 yeah
>>109325337
>no shade
>没有恶意
>on the kikesucker's politics
>在犹太血吸虫（网络骂人话）的政治上
kek
>>109388372
>yet another P2P network that no one will use
>又一个没人会用的 P2P 网络
but people use it
但人们确实在用
>>109396291
how so?
怎么说？
>>109361652
Whats the point? why not just run i2p or reticulum without urbit?
有什么意义？为什么不直接用 i2p 或 Reticulum，干嘛还要 Urbit？
was urbit ever reset or anything? I had a planet like 10 years ago when Yarvin was posting about it on UR.
Urbit 有被重置过之类的吗？大概十年前 Yarvin 在 UR 上发帖聊 Urbit 的时候，我好像有个 planet。
>>109401024
>>109374787
>>109401454
Identities moved to Azimuth, the smart contract got added in 2018.
身份系统搬到了 Azimuth，智能合约是 2018 年加上的。
>>109401454
There were a couple of network breaches, yes
是的，确实有过几次网络入侵。
One of them even changed my @p
其中一次甚至改了我的 @p。
>>109401238
there is no point
没啥意义。
we're just doing it for the lulz
我们纯粹就是为了乐子。
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