should i give up my $160k/year wfh job and go to law school so i can start my own law firm specializing in harming corporations (personal injury) and the government (disability)?
该不该放弃年薪16万美元的远程居家工作，去法学院读书，好让我自己开一家专坑公司（人身伤害案）和政府（残障案）的律所？
该不该放弃年薪16万美元的远程居家工作，去法学院读书，好让我自己开律所专
should i give up my $160k/year wfh job and go to law school so i can start my own law firm specializing in harming corporations (personal injury) and the government (disability)?
该不该放弃年薪16万美元的远程居家工作，去法学院读书，好让我自己开一家专坑公司（人身伤害案）和政府（残障案）的律所？
>should I quit my [overpaid comfy do nothing job] to do [something incredibly difficult]
>要不要辞掉[薪资虚高、闲得蛋疼的工作]去做[难到爆炸的事]
yes
>>62680934
>something incredibly difficult
>难到爆炸的事
what part of what i said sounds difficult?
我说的哪部分听起来难了？
>>62680928
very jewish scheme
非常犹太的算盘
>muh corporations
>哭唧唧的「我的大公司」
>muh government
>哭唧唧的「我的政府」
you're only hurting people in the end. get over your weird obsession.
到最后你伤害的只是普通人。放下你这奇怪的执念吧。
>>62681004
what do you do for a living?
你是做什么工作的？
>>62681017
objection: relevance
反对：与本案无关（objection: relevance）
>>62680945
Nothing. Do it.
没什么难的。干吧。
>>62681372
that's what i was thinking as well. i know all about the 'bimodal salary distribution' of lawyers. i make considerably more money than most people in my current line of work, so i would likely be successful in law.
我也是这么想的。我很清楚律师行业「双峰薪资分布」那一套。我现在的行当挣得比大多数人都多，所以我学法律大概率也能成。
>>62681467
>i make considerably more money than most people in my current line of work, so i would likely be successful in law.
>我现在的行当挣得比大多数人都多，所以我学法律大概率也能成。
Kekked
>>62680928
I made this exact thread a year ago. I gave up on the idea when I realized law school needed letters of recommendation. Also it's a meme with bad pay unless you go biglaw and they mostly hire normies who did bachelor's then jd, not some tech fag who went back to school for no reason.
一年前我发过一模一样的楼。后来发现法学院需要推荐信，就放弃了。而且除非进大所（biglaw），这行薪资就是个梗；他们大多招的是正经读完本科再读 JD 的普通人，不是那种没理由跑回去读书的技术佬。
Anyway I still think about because I hate the system and could be one of those red pilled defense lawyers.
不过我还是会想这事，因为我恨这个系统，而且我可以当一个红药丸觉醒的刑事辩护律师。
>>62681476
i'm also somewhat worried about this. i need to get 2-3 LORs but i'm not sure how i can do this, since i'm long removed from undergrad. i couldn't ask anyone at my job because i want to do a part time program and work -- and admitting to pursuing law school would look very bad for me at work.
我也有点担心这个。我需要2-3封推荐信（LOR），但不确定怎么搞，因为我离开本科都好久了。同事一个都不能问，因为我想边工作边读在职项目——在工作场合承认要读法学院对我非常不利。
>bad pay [...] biglaw
>薪资是个梗 [...] 大所
i have no interest in working for someone else long term. maybe 2-3 years at a small shitty boomer firm, just to learn the ropes w/r/t litigation, court procedure, etc.
我没兴趣长期给别人打工。也许在小破婴儿潮律所干个2-3年，学学诉讼、法庭程序这些门道就行。
>>62680928
you should definitely be able to graduate before ai outcompetes you at everything
你肯定能在AI全面碾压你之前毕业的
>>62680928
Im unironically at 160k too and it feels pretty good. I’m not leaving
说真的我也拿16万，感觉相当爽。我不走
>>62681632
max IQ to believe someone with a 7 figure PI claim is going to have it litigated by a chat bot?
智商拉满才会相信：一个七位数人身伤害索赔的人，会交给聊天机器人去打官司？
nah
take the guaranteed 160k
拿稳那16万再说
it'll take 1 year to study for LSAT/do pre-reqs and apply to school
备考 LSAT/补先修课加申请学校要1年
3 years for schooling
读书要3年
now you have to pass the bar
然后你还得考过律师资格（bar）
and you won't be making under 200k for at least another 3 years while you get your feet wet
而且你入行起步，至少还得再熬3年才能挣到20万以上
meanwhile you have student loans
与此同时你还背着学贷
you gave up a million dollars in that time span from your current job. maybe you might end up on the winning side if you plan to work 15+ years but why bother AI is going to take all our jobs. squeeze every penny you still can.
这段时间你等于放弃了现职的100万美元。如果你打算干15年以上也许能站到赢的那边，可何必呢，AI迟早把我们工作全抢走。能榨一分是一分。
>>62681656
i intend on doing part time while working full time.
我打算边全职工作边读在职。
>>62681649
yes, and you will laugh at how we used to use humans to do that
是的，将来你会笑着感叹：我们过去居然用人类干这些
>>62681726
what do you do for a living?
你是做什么工作的？
>>62681726
Even if that's the case we'll still use humans for negotiations, depositions and trials.
就算真是那样，谈判、庭外取证和庭审还是得用真人。
Yes. Your comfy WFH job has no mote and will get eaten by AI pretty soon. Law has a mote.
对。你那份舒服的居家工作没有护城河（原文 mote，应为 moat），很快就会被AI吃掉。法律有护城河。
>>62680928
Hell no, the whole point of even studying is to land a job like that. I wouldn't be working at mcdonald's for years, spending my paycheck on pots, AIs, and even fucking alts if it weren't for that, I'd be fucking drawing
想都别想，读书的全部意义就是找份那样的工作。要不是为了这个，我才不会在麦当劳干那么多年，把工资花在大麻、AI、甚至破山寨币上，我早他妈去画画了
What's the best law niche? Patent lawyer?
哪个法律细分方向最好？专利律师？
>>62682776
I heard it's pretty comfy to go into patent law. If you don't want to do litigation, you can just be a patent agent
听说专利方向挺舒服。不想做诉讼的话，当个专利代理人就行
>>62682776
Probably trust law, you only deal with rich people. Maybe corporate finance and deal with bankruptcy proceedings.
大概是信托法吧，只需要跟富人打交道。或者公司金融，处理破产程序。
>>62680928
It’s a bad idea. Making it out your own as a lawyer is a meme - the field is obscenely oversaturated because of the sheer amounts of law grads pumped out every year.
这是个坏主意。单干开律所就是个梗——这行因为每年量产海量法学院毕业生，已经过剩到离谱了。
In order to have any hope of a positive expected value in law (not guaranteed, we’ll get to that), you need to do all of:
想在法律行业有任何正期望值的希望（不保证有，后面会说），你必须做到以下全部：
1. Do extremely well in undergrad in a good program or have solid expertise in a unique or white collar field
1. 本科在一个好项目里成绩极其出色，或者在某个独特或白领领域有扎实专长
2. Get a 170+ lsat score (higher if you did worse at (1))
2. LSAT 考到 170+（如果第 1 条做得不够好，就得考更高）
3. Get accepted to a T14 law school, as a JD from anything below that is worth less than potty paper (with AI this will be T6 in a couple years)
3. 被一所 T14 法学院录取，低于这个档次的 JD 文凭擦屁股都嫌硬（有 AI 之后，过两年就是 T6 了）
4. Land an internship at a prestigious big law firm
4. 拿到一家有名的大律所（Big Law）实习
5. Translate your internship experience to a full time offer at a prestige big law firm
5. 把实习经历转成知名大律所的全职 offer
6. Grind for 70+ hours a week for the next 4 years doing exhausting bullshit work
6. 接下来四年每周苦熬 70+ 小时，干一堆累死人的破活
>break-even point of money/opportunity cost
>金钱/机会成本的回本点
7. Stay on partner track or go in-house at a comfier firm
7. 继续走合伙人路线，或者去一家更舒服的所做法务
This will take you a decade or more and you will probably wash out before it’s worth it. You seem pretty fucking stupid, so 99% chance if you do this you’ll be wagecucking in some shitty small boomer firm or gov office and realize you went into debt to do worse than you are right now.
这一套下来要十年以上，而且你大概率撑不到回本就淘汰了。你看上去蠢得要命，所以 99% 的概率是：你真走这条路，最后只能在某个破烂的婴儿潮小律所或者政府办公室里当牛马，然后发现自己背了债，混得还不如现在。
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