ITT: post your dream houses for when you /makeit/
本楼主题:晒出你 /makeit/ 财务自由后的梦想之家
ITT: post your dream houses for when you /makeit/
本楼主题:晒出你 /makeit/ 财务自由后的梦想之家
>>62664581
found this little gemmy today. could be a good starter
今天淘到这个小宝贝。当入门房不错
>>62664581
>2 million for a cardboard wooden box
>两百万买个纸板木头盒子
Lmfao at Americucks
美利坚跪族,笑死
I plan on doing a custom build
我打算自建
I'm selling 12.56 acres and a house in Arkansas for 140k
我在阿肯色 14 万刀卖 12.56 英亩地和一栋房
>>62664862
>>62664872
>gets robbed by niggers
>被黑鬼抢劫
>doesn’t have CCTV and at least 2 bodyguards on payroll
>没有监控、也没雇至少两个保镖
I’ll buy a normal sized house unless I end up with over $20 million
除非我资产超两千万,否则就买普通大小的房子
>>62664876
I priced it already and it’ll probably run 700K minus the land
我询过价了,不带地大概 70 万
>>62664581
My dream home is this same house but for $4,000,000 instead of $2.1 million
我的梦想之家就是同款房子,但价格从 210 万变 400 万
>>62664876
That's why it's called a 'dream home' retard. It's supposed to be out of reach for the vast majority of people.
所以才叫「梦想之家」啊智障。它本来就该是绝大多数人够不着的。
>>62664581
does this house come with $2,000,000 worth of gold in the basement? i burst out laughing when i saw this
这房子地下室带 200 万美元的黄金吗?我看到直接笑出声
this is mine, big enough for some kids, lake rights means i can get some jet skis or a small boat and go fishing, close enough to a small town and outlets, NH so low(ish) taxes, and close enough to some good ski mountains to do an easy weekend trip, maybe even a day trip if i feel up to the drive. price is realistic if i don't break 8 figures which i doubt i ever will. only downsides are id have to hope a medical marijuana card would work out, otherwise im risking driving to vermont or maine just to pick up, and the schools in the area aren't great.
这是我的菜:够养几个孩子,带湖权可以玩摩托艇或小船钓鱼,离小镇和奥特莱斯近,新罕布什尔州税低(相对),还挨着几个不错的滑雪场,周末轻松往返,兴致来了当天来回也行。只要我不破八位数——我大概永远破不了——这价格就算现实。缺点是得指望大麻医疗卡能办下来,不然就得冒险开去佛蒙特或缅因拿货;另外这学区的学校不怎么样。
>>62664581
I want a house at an air park, smaller is better actually.
我想要机场住宅区(air park)的房子,越小越好。
>>62664584
For me? Its 1100 Maple St, Conshohocken, that's colored like the moomin house
我的菜?Conshohocken 枫树街 1100 号,涂成姆明房子那个颜色的
>>62664685
Please post your euroshitbox
麻烦晒一下你的欧洲破车
Old nobility had it right. One beautiful, big, but not excessive or ridiculous mansion or chateau. On tons of acreage and land. Then it is fundamentally valuable and can be passed down generations, with the land used/leased as needed. So I'd get something like that with 1,000 acres or something.
老贵族思路是对的:一栋美丽、大但不浮夸的庄园或城堡,配上大量土地。这样资产有底子,能传代,地随用随租。我想要这种带 1000 英亩的。
>>62664581
I don't care about the house, but I want it to be in an almost all white neighborhood (light skin Asians are welcome, but no pajeets, etc.)
房子本身无所谓,但我想住在几乎全是白人的社区(浅肤色亚洲人可以,黑头发印度佬之类的免谈)
>>62664581
question for biz
问 biz 一个问题
I've been messaging people going through tax foreclosure on facebook asking them if they would accept an offer on their property. I have contacted dozens of people and only received one rejection. What's the deal. Are these people really just going to let their houses go up for auction. If not, why do so many people let their houses go into foreclosure if they have the means to pay their taxes?
我在 Facebook 上联系那些因欠税房产被止赎的人,问他们愿不愿意接受报价。我联系了几十个人,只有一个人拒绝。什么情况?这些人真的打算让房子直接进法拍?如果不是,为什么这么多有能力缴税的人会让房子走进止赎?
>>62665581
>I want it to be in an almost all white neighborhood
>我想住在几乎全是白人的社区
You and literally everybody else, including higher class blacks, jeets etc.
你和字面意义上的所有人一样,包括上层黑人、印度佬等等。
That's why there's such a premium on certain houses that seem like nothing special. It's especially bad in blue states because there's a cascade effect where certain urban neighborhoods/tangential neighborhoods become unlivable or undesirable due to massive influx of browns, whites move out and take over enclaves of neighborhoods, prices go sky high in those white enclaves, poorer whites can't afford so they move to suburbs or outer-city and form their own white enclaves. So not just cities become unaffordable, but smaller towns and suburbs too because we all want to live in safe white neighborhoods
所以有些房子看着平平无奇却溢价惊人。蓝州尤其严重,因为存在连锁效应:某些城区及其边缘因大量棕色人种涌入变得不宜居,白人搬走并占领新的聚居区,那里房价上天,穷白人住不起就搬去郊区或远郊再形成白人聚居区。于是不光是城市,小城镇和郊区也变得高不可攀,因为我们都想住在安全的白人社区
Sure it's a problem in red states too, but part of that is because blue state whites are fleeing from insane immigrant-friendly laws & "sanctuary" city laws and red states have more lax building laws. It's a fucking mess though. It makes me want to go insane with rage knowing traitors are putting "pro immigration" ahead of young white American families.
红州当然也有这问题,但部分原因是蓝州白人在逃离疯狂的亲移民法和「庇护城市」法,而红州建筑法规更宽松。反正就是一锅粥。一想到叛徒们把「支持移民」排在年轻白人美国家庭前面,我就气到发疯。
>>62665598
It's not taxes, they fail to pay the mortage payments for months then the bank takes the house and sells it.
不是税,是他们连续几个月还不上房贷,银行收走房子拿去卖。
>>62665617
No. It's not a foreclosure auction it's a tax deed sale.
不对。那不是止赎拍卖,是税务契据拍卖。
>>62665621
i'm scared now i just bought something i need to get tax payments set up asap lol
吓到我了,我刚买了房,得赶紧把缴税设置好哈哈
>>62665636
>Same as my house, probably newer.
>跟我家一样,可能更新一点。
>£1,000,000 to live in Khan's London.
>一百万镑住可汗的伦敦。
Lmao.
>>62664584
The stained stucco along with that window unit on the 2nd FL gives this a nice touch desu $575k is a steal
斑驳的灰泥墙加上二楼那台窗式空调,别有一番风味,57.5 万刀简直是捡漏
>>62665598
There is a hundred other people doing exactly the same thing and offering more
有一百个人在做一模一样的事,而且出价比你高
>>62664581
>built in 1890
>1890 年建造
whats the point in even mentioning this ship of theseus bullshit
提这些「忒修斯之船」的破事有什么意义
>>62665598
Where do you find people going through foreclosure?
你去哪里找那些被止赎的人?
>>62665843
county websites, court records, legal journals. so far it seems like a waste of time. people don't want to wrestle with the reality that they are being foreclosed on so they aren't going to take any proactive steps to deal with it. i'll just need to keep going to auctions.
县官网、法院记录、法律期刊。目前看纯属浪费时间。人们不愿面对自己房产被止赎的现实,所以不会主动采取任何行动。我还是继续跑法拍拍卖会吧。
>>62664872
bro this looks like a rehab center
老哥这看着像戒瘾康复中心
>>62665880
You been to the fancy rehabs then, the ones near me look like motels
你是没见过高档康复中心,我附近那些看着跟汽车旅馆似的
>>62664581
Something like this, but with a bigger main hall/luxury interiors and more storage area. I'll probably have some sheds and fencing built on the hill I'm under, as well as tons of sketchy signage and a cute little hobby garden. Grew lots of potatoes and cucumber this year, it's so easy I may as well keep doing so. Who doesn't love taters and pickles?
类似这种,但主厅更大/装修更豪华、储物空间更多。我大概会在山坡下搭些棚子和围栏,再加一堆可疑的警示牌和一个小菜园。今年种了不少土豆和黄瓜,太容易了,干脆继续种。谁不爱土豆和酸黄瓜呢?
Hidden from satellites and drones, safe from casual attack, on family trust land, passed down to my descendants.
对卫星和无人机隐形,防得住随手袭击,建在家族信托土地上,传给我的后代。
>>62665042
>>62665125
beautiful homes
漂亮的房子
>>62665935
yeah...
>t. southern californian
>t. 南加州人(典型发言)
>>62665636
>3 bedrooms ONE bathroom
>三间卧室共用一个卫生间
>1.3 million
>130 万美元
This is disgusting
令人作呕
horrible remodeling, great placement, nice old home, enough space for two kids. Either Quebec, Boston, Boise or outer Seattle. I wouldn't live anywhere else. Cold, ocean or mountains, higher latitude.
装修稀烂,位置绝佳,老房子不错,够两个小孩住。魁北克、波士顿、博伊西或西雅图远郊任选其一,其他地方我不住。要冷,要海或山,要高纬度。
>>62664581
Something like this. Far from society I want to go hermit mode and be left alone by society. Cozy times and lots of gaming.
类似这种。远离社会,我想开隐居模式,让社会别来烦我。 cozy 时光配大量游戏。
>>62667290
anon, trust me on this, you don't want to live in these tall penthouses. the entire thing moves every time the wind blows hard and you can feel it no matter how strong the counterweight is. you have to share all of your amenities with other NYC rich people, including those who paid for the lower apartments who won't be nearly as rich as you but still just as annoying as anyone else born rich. for the same price you can build yourself a giant mansion upstate with all of the amenities you want and still have enough left over to pay for a private chef which is really the only thing to live in NYC for, unless your a theaterfag
听我一句劝,你别想住这种高层顶楼公寓。风一大整栋楼都在晃,配重再强你也感觉得到。所有设施都得跟纽约其他富人共享,包括那些住低楼层的——没你有钱,但烦人程度和所有含着金汤匙出生的人一样。同样的钱你可以在上州给自己盖一栋巨型豪宅,设施随便配,还剩得雇个私厨——这才是住纽约唯一值得的理由,除非你是戏剧宅
i'll take >$1M no garage, no AC Jim
我选:超 100 万刀、没车库、没空调,Jim
>>62668013
yeah but what about security i feel like a private residence on some big plot of land is just a sitting duck for evil doers where as u get way up in some tower and none of them are getting in there
可安全怎么办?我感觉独栋大宅就是坏人的活靶子,而住上高楼他们根本进不来
>>62668025
ya a nigger infested city is much more secure
对,黑鬼扎堆的城市安全多了
>>62668020
>5 beds
>5 间卧室
>only 2 baths
>只有 2 个卫生间
Lol
>neighborhood looks on the poor side
>社区看着挺穷
Let me guess the crime rate isn't low there and/or lots of annoying types of neighbors ie partiers who go until 2-5 am in the morning or people working out of their garage doing loud metal work during the day? Perhaps annoying kids on motorbikes going up and down the street while the parents mever tell to knock off the annoying nuisance?
让我猜猜:那里犯罪率不低,或者邻居全是烦人精——凌晨两三点开 party 的、白天在车库里敲敲打打做金属加工的?还有骑着摩托上蹿下跳的熊孩子而家长从不管教?
>>62668071
Golden is a very nice college town nestled in the mountains and close distance to Red Rocks (ampitheatre), ski resorts, infinite outdoors and hiking, plus two big job centers (Boulder and Denver). It's definitely not a poor neighborhood retard if the house is >1M
Golden 是个很不错大学城,依山而建,离红岩剧场、滑雪场、无穷的户外和徒步路线都近,还有两大就业中心(Boulder 和丹佛)。房价超百万的房子绝不会是穷社区,智障
>>62668037
all it takes is some chick to post a photo of ur shit on social and tage the location and it's over every scum bag in the city will be taking a day trip like rip to pop smoke although i think he posted it himself
只要哪个妹子把你的破房子拍照发社媒并带上定位,就全完了,全城的渣滓都会来一日游。RIP Pop Smoke,虽然好像是他自己发的定位
>>62668025
its a trade off. sure, you're technically safer inside the tower where nobody can get to you, but you're in way more danger out on the street. if you wear too nice of stuff around regular parts of town people will notice and some will try to take advantage of you. if you're upstate in the mountains you're away from the repeat criminals because they can't afford to be anywhere close to you, and they won't know where your house is or how to get to it. random crime in rural areas is extremely rare, its almost always personal issues between people who know each other that result in physical altercations.
这是笔交易。确实,理论上住在没人够得着的塔里更安全,但你上街时的风险大得多。在普通街区穿得太讲究会被人盯上,有人会想占你便宜。而在山区上州,惯犯够不着你——他们住不起那附近,也不知道你家在哪、怎么去。农村的随机犯罪极其罕见,暴力冲突几乎总是熟人之间的私人恩怨。
>>62668341
you sound brown. stuff like this doesn't happen to white people.
你说话一股棕皮味。这种事不会发生在白人身上。
>>62664581
>buying boomer boxes
>买婴儿潮破盒子
lol. lmao even
哈哈,笑死
>>62668071
>>62668087
if you can't stand "affluent" denver urbanites or the last true hipster holdouts you'll hate golden
如果你受不了丹佛的「上流」都市人或最后一批真文青,你会恨死 Golden
it's packed with 'em and isn't even that pretty, basically a hilly wasteland
那地方全是这类人,风景也谈不上多美,基本就是一片丘陵荒地
easy access to the rockies though that's true but the people are a major dealbreaker to me
去落基山确实方便,这是真的,但那里的人对我是一票否决
>>62665042
>>62668003
Cozy. The older I get the less I want a massive home. I value land more than house. Give me a well build cottage with stone, 100yr slate roof and iron trusses/steel framing and a lovely shop/garage for my hobbies and I will likely be at peace. That would be fire resistant, termite resistant, and relatively thermal efficient with the right insullation.This house with a basement, and a tunnel that connects to the garage/shop would be amazing if weather is bad. What do you guys think?
Cozy。年纪越大越不想要大房子。土地比房子重要。给我一栋石头砌的结实小屋、100 年寿命的石板屋顶和铁桁架/钢架结构,再加一间漂亮的兴趣工坊/车库,我大概就心安了。这种房子防火防白蚁,做好保温的话热效率也不错。如果再带地下室、有条通往车库/工坊的地道,坏天气就完美了。你们觉得呢?
>>62664581
>$2 million
>200 万美元
all because the US lacks culture so much that all the Californians flock to wherever even a *scrap* of culture may be; in this case, they seek the "Go into a building and watch someone sing and play an instrument, to a particular genre of music"
都怪美国太没文化,加州人才会蜂拥到任何可能有一星半点文化的地方——在这里,他们追求的是「进一栋建筑听特定风格的音乐,有人唱歌有人演奏」
>>62668087
Have you tried to get from golden to the ski area on a Friday or Saturday?
你试过周五或周六从 Golden 去滑雪场吗?
I live in Breck and we won't even attempt I 70 on a weekend. It's a traffic jam every time
我住 Breck,我们周末连 I-70 都不敢上。次次堵成停车场
>>62665976
They can't tax what they cant see
看不见的东西他们征不了税
>>62664581
>>62669218
look at that "neighborhood" on google maps holy shit lol it's like a few shacks on a tiny one lane road
去谷歌地图看看那个「社区」吧我操,哈哈,就是一条单车道小路边上的几间破棚屋
>>62669218
looks moldy desu
看着发霉,讲真
>>62669229
problem?
>>62669216
That too is wise, however I assume it would be quite difficult to do the amount of work required for a functional family manor-bunker without the state catching on. They're a paranoid and moneygrubbing lot.
这也有道理,不过我猜想在政府眼皮底下建成一个能住人的家族庄园-地堡,难度相当大。他们那帮人又多疑又贪。
>>62668003
Nothing of that actually living is cozy lmao stupid zoomer daydreams, its harsh and hard work the price for serenity
那种生活其实一点都不 cozy 哈哈,幼稚的 Z 世代白日梦。宁静的代价是严酷和苦干
>>62664581
Can anyone explain to me how a 1560sqft old wood framed house on a postage stamp lot is worth US$2,150,000? Last time I was in Nashville it was a meh-tier cheap city. I recognize that COVID and Democrappic insanity have driven blue-staters to flee their hellholes for sane red states, but I wouldn't expect prices to be above national median prices for something like that.
谁能给我解释一下,一栋 1560 平方英尺的老木框架房、邮票大的地块,凭什么值 215 万美元?上次去纳什维尔它还是个不入流的便宜城市。我知道疫情和白左发疯让蓝州人逃往理智的红州,但也不至于让这种房子卖到全国中位价之上吧。
Did Dolly Parton and Johnny Cash have a torrid affair in the house? Can you still smell the bodily fluids?
多莉·帕顿和约翰尼·卡什在房子里风流过吗?体液的味道还在吗?
>>62666517
>Amerishart needs 5 bathrooms because of his goyslop diarrhea
>美利坚阉人需要 5 个卫生间,因为他的狗粮拉肚子
>>62669604
Meaningful labor is often more rewarding to the soul than meaningless office work.
有意义的劳动对灵魂的滋养,常常胜过无意义的办公室工作。
>>62669900
Unlike Europoors, we Americans are wealthy enough to be able to afford a master bathroom for the parents and a second bathroom for kids/guests/visitors. Along with a central air conditioning system large enough to keep the house cool all summer, and a heating system that keeps it nice and warm all winter.
不像欧洲穷鬼,我们美国人够富裕,能给父母配主卫、给孩子/客人配第二卫生间,还有够大 house 全夏凉爽的中央空调、全冬温暖的暖气。
>>62664581
Somewhere were there are no blacks. Actually no minorities. And no MAGA. Actually, just no people.
找个没有黑人的地方。不,干脆不要任何少数族裔。也不要 MAGA。算了,干脆不要人。
Found it.
找到了。
>>62672720
it looks nice, but its in the suburbs of fucking Philly. unless you're working there or plan on going into the city often (why on earth would you want to) then you're really paying 1.5X the price you should be just for location.
看着不错,可它在费城的郊区。除非你在那上班或者打算常进城(你到底图什么),否则你纯粹是在为地段多付 1.5 倍的钱。
>>62672757
What's the HOA like?
物业业委会(HOA)怎么样?
Plan to keep barrier to entry high so nignogs can never get in? What about juice shipping them into our neighborhood school?
是不是打算把门槛抬高让黑鬼永远进不来?那犹太人把他们的孩子塞进我们社区学校怎么办?
i'm living pretty much in my dream house (3k sq ft/3car garage with a dedicated upstairs loft as a gaming room/office) but i suppose if i had 4k sq ft, 4 car garage and massive driveway with a pool and a in-law suite that would be icing on the cake.
我基本已经住在我梦想的房子里了(3000 平方英尺/三车位车库,楼上还有一个专属阁楼当游戏室/办公室),不过要是有 4000 平方英尺、四车位车库、超大车道、游泳池和姻亲套房,那就是锦上添花。
>>62672720
>4.2k/month
>>62664581
>>62674835
Best school district in the state. Your kids will be doctor's and petroleum engineers
全州最好的学区。你的孩子会成为医生和石油工程师
>>62674854
Wages are higher here
这里工资更高
>>62674884
if you're really going for schools there are way better areas/states. also no i don't want my kids to be fucking stressed out doctors and oil rig assholes, i want them to be rich investors who don't have to work who also get to raise their own kids
如果你真是冲学区去的,有太多更好的地方/州。而且不,我不想让我孩子当被压力榨干的医生和钻井平台的混蛋,我想让他们当不用工作的有钱投资人,还能亲自带娃
>>62674929
>i don't want my kids to be fucking stressed out doctors and oil rig assholes
>我不想让我孩子当被压力榨干的医生和钻井平台的混蛋
They won't be smart enough to anyway.
他们反正也没聪明到那程度。
>>62669611
>Can anyone explain to me how a 1560sqft old wood framed house on a postage stamp lot is worth US$2,150,000? Last time I was in Nashville it was a meh-tier cheap city. I recognize that COVID and Democrappic insanity have driven blue-staters to flee their hellholes for sane red states, but I wouldn't expect prices to be above national median prices for something like that.
>有谁能给我解释一下:邮票大的地块上一栋 1560 平方英尺的老木框架房,凭什么值 215 万美元?上次去纳什维尔它还是个不入流的便宜城市。我知道疫情和白左发疯把蓝州人赶到了理智的红州,但这种房子也不该卖到全国中位价之上吧。
>Did Dolly Parton and Johnny Cash have a torrid affair in the house? Can you still smell the bodily fluids?
>多莉·帕顿和约翰尼·卡什在房子里风流过吗?体液的味道还在吗?
repeating my question because nobody responded in the last 36 hours, plus attention-getting image
重发我的问题,因为过去 36 小时没人理我,再配一张钓眼球图
>>62674884
kek bro this isn't 1976, everyone is getting home-schooled these days.
哈哈老哥,这不是 1976 年了,现在家家户户都在 homeschool。
>>62674969
Lol
>>62674944
doctor maybe not, anyone can be a petroleum engineer. im a mechanical engineer myself and i barely tried. won't matter how smart you are when a couple of thugs from camden get smart enough to simply drive across the city to some better loot
医生难说,石油工程师谁都能当。我自己就是机械工程师,几乎没怎么费劲。等几个 Camden 来的混混聪明到直接开车穿城去抢更好的肥羊时,你再聪明也没用
>>62675713
Based and Dorkpilled.
有骨气,宅气满满(Dorkpilled)。
(I mean it sincerely. Your image is based and very comfy looking. You are also a dork, like me.)
(我说真的。你的图很有骨气、看起来非常舒适。而且你也是个宅子,跟我一样。)
>>62665610
>It makes me want to go insane with rage knowing traitors are putting "pro immigration" ahead of young white American families.
>一想到叛徒们把「支持移民」排在年轻白人美国家庭前面,我就气到发疯。
Channel that rage into some ACTION my man
把怒火化成行动吧,我的兄弟
>>62668003
>gaming
>self sufficient lifestyle inna
>自给自足的生活 inna(末日废土风)
Choose one my man. Also, hopefully no competitive online vidya, that latency will be no fun
二选一吧,兄弟。另外最好别玩竞技网游,那延迟可不好玩
>>62668341
>>62668407
>you sound brown
>你说话一股棕皮味
This
>>62669611
Location brother
报个位置,兄弟
>>62674969
This. Pay exorbitant taxes because the heckin “good schools” retort, which really just means your child can get through the school day without nog disruptions. The curriculum is the same white guilt jew slop as the public school system or even private anywhere in the jewnited states
就是。交天价税,图的就是「好学校」这个说法——其实意思不过是你的孩子能一整天不被黑鬼捣乱。课程内容跟公立学校一样,都是白人负罪感的犹太垃圾,在犹太合众国哪儿都一样,私校也是
>>62664581
>>62664584
>>62664581
>>62665042
>>62665636
>>62668020
>>62672720
You folks are being intentionally demotivational.
你们这是在故意打击士气。
You can find cheap houses if you look, just curious. Are the leased land properties leases per month or per-year?
用心找确实能找到便宜房子。顺便好奇:租地房产的租金按月算还是按年算?
>>62675812
Your kids will serve my kids fries : ). There was a thread the other day about how rich Asian families are in America compared to everyone else. If these families listened to you they'd be in par with blacks lmao
你的孩子将来给我孩子端薯条:)。前几天有个帖子说亚裔富人在美国比其他族裔富多少。这些家庭要是听了你的,就跟黑人一个水平了哈哈
>>62665976
Bad Boy Bubby pilled
《坏小子巴比》式人生
>>62666479
Flip the chair the right way up and you're all set>>62668003
把椅子正过来放你就齐活了>>62668003
>>62664581
Haven't been to biz since 2022, but I missed the bros and pink wojaks. Am buying first home just in time for the 2027 econ-opolypse and Skynet going online.
2022 年之后就没来过 biz,但想念兄弟们和粉红 wojak 表情包。刚好赶上 2027 经济末日和天网上线前买第一套房。
Wish me luck fellow pm hoarders and token schizos.
祝我好运吧,贵金属囤友们和代币精神分裂们。
>>62664685
But muh drywall is full of freedom and wtf tyrone shot through my wall trump save me
可是我的石膏板里充满了自由啊,什么?Tyrone 把我家墙打穿了?特朗普救救我
>>62675871
200k for a double-wide mobile home? God I can't fucking wait! My 20k/y job will easily finance this!
20 万刀买一套双宽活动房房?老天我等不及了!我年薪 2 万的工作轻松供得起!
For me, it's gotta be a single wide in spooksville, if I can't hear the shitbulls and drivebys, I'm paying too much.
对我来说,必须是鬼城里的单宽活动房。要是听不到斗牛犬叫和流弹枪声,那我就是买贵了。
>>62676440
stop acting like a little girl. It's a good base of opperations as a single dude, all I need is a PC, somewhere to cook, a bed, a bathroom, and I am good.
别装小女生了。对单身汉来说这是个不错的基地:有台电脑、能做饭的地方、一张床、一个卫生间,我就满足了。
>>62675871
>dude just live in south central los angeles
>兄弟,去洛杉矶南中南区住呗
>>62677412
>auction
it will not go for the listed price
它不会按标价成交的
without even checking where it is
连位置都没查
>>62677464
That's not in LA, that's the suburb 20 miles out; LA isn't even that bad. Are you all in nowheresville or something? I see houses in Kentucky, Tennessee, and the like; that's no dream that's nightmare.
那不在洛杉矶,是 20 英里外的郊区;LA 本身也没那么糟。你们是活在鸟不拉屎的地方吗?我看到的是肯塔基、田纳西之类的房子——那不是梦,是噩梦。
>>62677469
I think that's the stated price
我觉得那就是标价
>>62677568
read the first three words of the description retard
去读描述的前三个词,智障
some old fart clocked it and they are taking the house to auction to sell it asap
有个老头抢先登记了,他们正在把房子拿去拍卖尽快出手
the listed price will be the auction reserve price ie the minimum
标价会是拍卖的保留价,也就是底价
>That's not in LA, that's the suburb 20 miles out;
>那不在洛杉矶,是 20 英里外的郊区;
it's beanerpocalypse wasteland in one of the most infamously congested and unliveable areas of all time
那是豆灾(beanerpocalypse)废土,史上最著名拥堵、最不宜居的地区之一
i agree that you can find relatively affordable houses if you look in the right places; i don't agree whatsoever with which houses you picked
我同意找对地方确实能找到相对便宜的房子;但我完全不同意你挑的这几套
>>62677626
>i agree that you can find relatively affordable houses if you look in the right places; i don't agree whatsoever with which houses you picked
>我同意找对地方确实能找到相对便宜的房子;但我完全不同意你挑的这几套
I can deep dive if you want.
你想听的话我可以深入分析。
>it's beanerpocalypse wasteland
>那是豆灾废土
They aren't that bad, a little wrinkly, but they are honestly nice people. I wouldn't fuck any of their women, they age like milk. Also Irvine is only three miles away from there, plenty of white and Asian women.
没那么糟,皮肤皱了点,但人真的很不错。他们家的女人我是不会碰的,老得像牛奶。而且尔湾离那儿才三英里,白人和亚裔姑娘多的是。
Also just curious how are these places getting sold for so low? Is that the down payment or am I missing something?
顺便好奇,这些房子怎么卖这么便宜?那是首付吗,还是我漏了什么?
>>62677748
they probably have enormous maintenance issues. lots of boomers bought a house, kept it for 30-40 years, zero maintenance, and then dump it on the market after throwing up some fresh paint.
多半有巨大的维修问题。很多婴儿潮买了房,放个三四十年,零维护,刷层新漆就丢到市场上。
if it seems too good to be true, it is. i bet >>62677700 is about to collapse.
好得不像真的就必然不是真的。我赌 >>62677700 那栋快塌了。
>>62677774
well since it's impossible the read the description, i'll consult my handy crystal ball!
既然描述根本没法读,那我请教我称手的水晶球吧!
it says
上面写着
>you're a retarded ape nigger
>你是个智障猿猴黑鬼
cryptic as ever
一如既往地晦涩
>>62677748
Usually it’s hoa fees
通常是业委会费(HOA)
>>62676049
Just looked that up. What the hell, aussies
刚查了。什么鬼啊,澳大利亚人
>>62677412
>>62677700
>>62677774
you have to be crazy to live in california. liberals in your neighborhood will find out you got rich off of crypto and immediately target your child for trans bullshit, they'd brainwash your children at school and then chop off their genitals before they're even adults. also same deal with philly, as soon as inner city criminals start going to the suburbs to steal shit and kill people its over
住加州你得是疯子。邻居里的自由派一发现你靠加密发财,立刻就把你孩子盯上搞跨性别那套——在学校给孩子洗脑,成年之前就把他们的生殖器切了。费城同理,只要市中心的罪犯开始往郊区偷东西杀人,就完了
>>62665935
Mine was over Zoom because COVID.
我那次是 Zoom 上谈的,因为疫情。
They were dickheads too. The therapy didn't work either. The only thing that worked was all the bullshit I had to go through and the treatment I was getting making me question how I got to where I was.
他们也是混蛋。心理咨询也没用。唯一有用的,是我经历的那堆破事和接受的治疗,让我开始反思自己是怎么走到这一步的。
>>62679167
yeah it's like people think criminals can't drive to bergen or westchester county, come on now
是哦,好像罪犯不会开车去 Bergen 或 Westchester 县似的,拜托
>>62669218
The last time I did mold remediation we pulled permits to wipe out the wall and do an extension because it was cheaper than trying to actually clean that shit via a certified third party.
上次我做霉菌治理时,直接申请许可把墙拆了做个扩建,因为那比找有资质的第三方清理便宜。
>>62679167
You sound like a hick from nowheresville 845/ or Pennsylvania,
你听着像个 845 区号或宾州的乡下土鳖,
California is too convenient, I'd be crazy not to live there.
加州太方便了,我不住那儿才是疯了。
>very technological
>科技感十足
got my drawing tablet repaired for $50, that would have been impossible in some hick shithole. Also there is a computer recycling/ cheap deals center where I picked up four extra monitors for ten bucks each.
我的数位板 50 刀就修好了,在乡下垃圾场这不可能。还有个电脑回收/低价中心,我 10 刀一台收了四台备用显示器。
>always networking events to attend
>总有社交活动可参加
there are four a month within a three mile radius of me, as well as many game studios
我方圆三英里内每月有四场,还有好多游戏工作室
>people in my field are around every corner
>同行随处可见
had a heated discussion in a bar with a girl about which JRPG reigned supreme. That would have never happened in hicksville
在酒吧跟一个姑娘就哪款 JRPG 是巅峰激辩了一场。在乡下这绝不可能发生
>don't need a car, but gets me box and to various areas super quick
>不需要车,却能快速把我大件和人送到各处
>many different grocery stores to choose from
>好多超市可选
I've never ordered chinese once since moving to the city because I can get the ingredients easy and I can save a ton on food.
搬进城里后我一次中餐都没点过外卖,因为食材好买,还省了一大笔钱。
>large dating pool
>约会池巨大
>>62679594
>had a heated discussion in a bar with a girl about which JRPG reigned supreme.
>在酒吧跟一个姑娘就哪款 JRPG 是巅峰激辩了一场。
damn that's pretty based. Final Fantasy VI.
damn,真有骨气。《最终幻想 VI》。
i hope you got her number.
希望你要到她号码了。
>>62679605
well she gave me her insta, and discord. We converse fairly often.
她给了我 Instagram 和 Discord。我们聊得挺勤。
>>62679594
i grew up on long island and currently live in NYC, you're terrible at reading people. the more i know about big cities the more i know how awful they are. you sound like you're obsessed with shitty video games which is sad.
我在长岛长大、现在住纽约,你看人的眼光真差。越了解大城市,我越知道它们有多烂。你听着像沉迷垃圾游戏的人,可悲。
>drawing tablet
>数位板
cringe
>video games in 2026
>2026 年还打游戏
cringe, all video games suck now
尬,现在的游戏全是烂作
>fat ugly girl in bar talking about shitty video games
>酒吧里聊垃圾游戏的胖丑女
pass, jrpgs are trash for retards
告辞,JRPG 是给智障玩的垃圾
>never ordered chinese
>一次中餐都没点过
guarantee you're a shit cook no matter how good you think you are, i can go to chinatown for the best chinese food in the country whenever i feel like it and im not poor so i can afford it. you sound like a californian retard and you should stay there and get ass raped by taxes and spics for the rest of your life. have fun when newsom puts an extra capital gains tax because he's mad about losing the president nomination. im moving to a white area in a white state with a republican governor so my children will be safe.
我保证不管你觉得自己厨艺多好都是坨屎。我随时能去唐人街吃全美最好的中餐,我又不穷,吃得起。你听着像加州智障,就该烂在那儿,一辈子被税和墨西哥人爆菊。等纽森因为输了总统提名气急败坏加征资本利得税时你就乐吧。我要搬去共和党州长治下的白人州的白人区,让我的孩子安全。
>>62679632
>i grew up on long island and currently live in NYC
>我在长岛长大、现在住纽约
It's within the same state as 845, so I am not that far off.
845 在同一个州内,所以我猜得也不算离谱。
>you sound like you're obsessed with shitty video games
>你听着像沉迷垃圾游戏的人
Game artist, I lived in the NYC area for the the first couple of years post college and the jobs were pretty shit. All the good studios are out west.
游戏美术,我。毕业后头几年住纽约地区,工作烂透了。好工作室都在西部。
>cringe
makes me cash, and I am following my passions
能赚钱,而且我在追求热爱
>cringe, all video games suck now
>尬,现在的游戏全是烂作
do you realize where you are?
你知道自己在哪儿吗?
>pass, jrpgs are trash for retards
>告辞,JRPG 是给智障玩的垃圾
you sound zoomish
你说话一股 Z 世代味
>, i can go to chinatown for the best chinese food in the country whenever i feel like it and im not poor so i can afford i
>我随时能去唐人街吃全美最好的中餐,我又不穷,吃得起
funds better put into stocks and crypto
这钱不如投股票和加密
>. you sound like a californian retard and you should stay there and get ass raped by taxes
>你听着像加州智障,就该烂在那儿,一辈子被税爆菊
I was getting more brutally taxed in NYC than out here in OC.
我在纽约交的税比在橙县狠多了。
There's an NYC tax dumbass.
有纽约市税啊,白痴。
>. im moving to a white area in a white state with a republican governor so my children will be safe.
>我要搬去共和党州长治下的白人州的白人区,让我的孩子安全。
Nowheresville, where there are no opportunities, no room for growth, heroin, and dumbshit hicks.
鸟不拉屎镇:没有机会,没有成长空间,只有海洛因和蠢乡巴佬。
>>62679709
>so I am not that far off.
>所以我猜得也不算离谱。
no, you're so far off its embarrassing. once again you know shit about fuck.
不,你离谱到丢人。再说一遍:你对这事的认知一无所知。
>blah blah blah anime video games
>blah blah blah 动漫游戏
i don't care, grow up
我不在乎,成熟点吧
>funds better put into stocks and crypto
>这钱不如投股票和加密
yeah but when you're living in the best city on earth its worth enjoying the best of what the world has to offer
可你住在地球上最好的城市,就该享受世界顶级的一切,这才值
>nyc tax
>纽约市税
yeah thats why im trying to leave dumbass
对,所以我才想搬走,白痴
>Nowheresville
where there's no crime, a very high standard of living, incredible schools, no diversity to deal with, and judges who will actually protect your rights and your children. you're broken liberal retarded mind thinks all white people are poor and evil when its the opposite, white places are usually way better to live in. living in suburbs around a big city is nigger hell. also, i like that you didn't bring up the girl, because you know she's fat and ugly. be honest, was she brown?
那里没有犯罪、生活水平极高、学校超棒、不用应付多样性,法官还会真正保护你和你的孩子。你那坏掉的自由派智障脑子以为白人都穷且邪恶,事实正相反:白人地区通常宜居得多。大都市郊区就是黑鬼地狱。还有,我发现你没提那姑娘,因为你知道她又胖又丑。说实话,她是棕皮吗?
>>62679709
>oc
Hello form oc too. Honestly, Florida of California. So many white people here too, which is great. But no where as near as you want it to be, which is 100%
你好,我也是橙县的。说真的,佛罗里达还是加州。这里白人也很多,很好。但远不到你想要的程度——100% 白
Rest of California is shit though.
不过加州其他地方是垃圾。
Oh and weather been ass recently, specially since it rained
哦对了最近天气很糟,特别是下过雨之后
>>62664581
Bullshit. Properties priced at $2 million in Nashville typically span 3,300 to 5,500+ square feet, or offer massive multi-acre land values. Paying $2 million for a 1,500-square-foot structure would mean a rate of over $1,300 per foot, which exceeds even ultra-luxury penthouse or prime historic estate benchmarks.
放屁。纳什维尔 200 万刀的房子通常有 3300-5500+ 平方英尺,或者带大面积数英亩土地。花 200 万买 1500 平方英尺的房子意味着每英尺超 1300 刀,连超豪华顶层公寓或顶级历史庄园的价位都超过了。
>>62679764
>no, you're so far off its embarrassing. once again you know shit about fuck.
>不,你离谱到丢人。再说一遍:你对这事的认知一无所知。
Nah, it's pretty much the same shit dude.
不,其实差不多一回事,老哥。
>i don't care, grow up
>我不在乎,成熟点吧
that sort of thinking leads to kids out of wedlock and a desire to live a life in nowheresville.
这种想法会导致婚外生子,和一辈子窝在鸟不拉屎镇。
>yeah but when you're living in the best city on earth its worth enjoying the best of what the world has to offer
>可你住在地球上最好的城市,就该享受世界顶级的一切,这才值
>yeah thats why im trying to leave dumbass
>对,所以我才想搬走,白痴
If it's the best city on earth, why do you want to escape to the countryside so badly? LA has NYC beat 20x over. There's no fucking LA tax
既然是地球上最好的城市,你为什么这么想逃去乡下?LA 完爆 NYC 二十条街。而且没有什么 LA 市税
>where there's no crime
>那里没有犯罪
that's reported, they cover up heroin deaths all the time to uphold the town's reputation. Also most of the time the cops have jack shit to do and will ticket you for not coming to a full halt at a stop sign.
那是报案的数字,海洛因致死他们一直瞒着维护小镇名声。而且多数时候警察闲得蛋疼,你在停车标志没停满就会吃罚单。
>a very high standard of living
>生活水平极高
you mean shitting around at home, bullshit farmers markets and being 20 miles from anything.
你是指在家闲晃、农民市集,以及离什么都 20 英里远。
>incredible schools
>学校超棒
nah, they just aim for better test scores and give the kids an obscene amount of homework. Kids are better off going to mid or shitty schools and have the drive to learn on their own instilled at an early age.
得了吧,他们只是刷考试分数,再给孩子堆成山的作业。孩子去个中不溜或烂学校,但从小培养自主学习动力,反而更好。
>no diversity to deal with
>不用应付多样性
/pol/tard detected,
检测到 /pol/ 脑,
> all white people are poor and evil
>以为所有白人都穷且邪恶
nah, poor people in general suck. Wealthy folks of all ethnicities are fine.
不,是穷人普遍烂。富裕的各族裔人都不错。
> living in suburbs around a big city is nigger hell.
>大都市郊区就是黑鬼地狱。
/pol/tard confirmed
/pol/ 脑实锤
>ike that you didn't bring up the girl, because you know she's fat and ugly.
>发现你没提那姑娘,因为你知道她又胖又丑。
Nope plenty of pretty girls as well as artists enjoy these things, you've lived in the North east too long.
不,漂亮姑娘和艺术家里喜欢这些东西的一大把,你在东北待太久了。
> be honest, was she brown?
>说实话,她是棕皮吗?
nope she was white.
不是,她是白人。
>>62679928
>a. So many white people here too, which is great. But no where as near as you want it to be, which is 100%
>这里白人也很多,很好。但远不到你想要的程度——100% 白
dont' be a /pol/tard having Asians around is nice.
别当 /pol/ 脑,周围有亚裔其实挺好。
>Rest of California is shit though.
>不过加州其他地方是垃圾。
nah, I drove from Santa Ana to San Francisco, there are some nice towns along the coast in between.
不,我从圣安娜开车到旧金山,沿途海岸线上有些不错的小镇。
>Oh and weather been ass recently, specially since it rained
>哦对了最近天气很糟,特别是下过雨之后
I've been out here for nine years, it's only been humid twice. This is a common occurrence in the northeast.
我在这儿九年了,就潮过两次。这在东北是家常便饭。
>>62675713
patrician taste
上等品味
>>62674957
The seller knows what he's got
卖家知道自己的货值多少
>>62664685
>cardboard
anon that house has been standing for over 120 years... its anything but cardboard. overpriced? yes of course, but youre kind of retarded if you buy new construction
老哥那房子站了 120 多年了……绝不是纸板。贵吗?当然贵。但买新建房才是真智障
>>62681985
even better, asbestos
更棒的是,还有石棉
>>62681985
lol the land is probably worth 2.5 and they discount for the teardown cost
哈哈,土地估计值 250 万,他们减掉拆除费
>>62680376
everything you said is retarded, purposefully obtuse, or just straight up wrong. you don't deserve a response. you deserve to be raped to death by spics and niggers. have fun in hell. ill be in heaven with beautiful white children while you suffer as a dysgenic maggot.
你说的全是智障、装傻或纯错。你不配得到回应,你只配被墨西哥人和黑鬼轮着弄死。地狱见。我会带着漂亮白人孩子在天堂,而你这个劣生蛆虫在地狱受苦。
>>62682000
checked, now thats a house. plenty of space, plenty of land, right on the lake, tons of outdoor recreational stuff to do, and an airport nearby so you can go wherever you want but far enough away that it won't get too diverse. have fun anon.
数字验证。这才叫房子。空间大、地大、就在湖边、户外活动管够,附近还有机场想去哪去哪,又远到不会太多样化。好好享受,老哥。
>>62682238
>>62682274
You are a white girl in a pink diaper, you've been on /pol/ too long and you idealize nowheresville towns with no utilities. Shitholes like this seem nice, but are havens for heroin.
你是个穿粉色尿布的白人女孩,/pol/ 泡太久,把没有水电的鸟不拉屎镇理想化了。这种破地方看着不错,其实是海洛因温床。
>>62683146
im a million times the man you'll ever be and im going to fuck your wife if you ever get one. you are a cuck that needs to kill himself immediately. you are worthless, nobody will remember you, and anyone who ever said they loved you was lying to make you feel better. you're a bug, killing you wouldn't be a crime. how about i burn down all three houses that you posted with everyone in them just so you can't have your dream home.
我比你强一百万倍,你哪天娶了老婆我立刻上她。你是个该立刻自我了断的绿帽。你一文不值,没人会记得你,任何说过爱你的都在撒谎哄你。你是只虫子,弄死你都不算犯罪。要不我把你发的三栋房子连人全烧了,让你连梦里的家都没有。
>>62683149
You are pink diapering,you think that living in some nowheresville shithole in New Hamspire is better than living in gamedev central, you have been brainwashed by /pol/ and will live a mediocre life.
你就是在装粉红尿布,你以为住新罕布什尔的鸟不拉屎镇比住在游戏开发中心好。你被 /pol/ 洗脑了,会过平庸的一生。
>>62683155
is that all you have to say? you just repeat the same exact thing? you're a fucking baboon with no brain. my kids are going to own your kids. your children will be my children's slaves, and they're going to whip them hard and make them work on weekends.
你就这点本事?翻来覆去就这一句?你是个没脑子的狒狒。我的孩子会拥有你的孩子。你的孩子会给我孩子当奴隶,被狠狠抽鞭子,周末也得干活。
>>62683159
> my kids
>我的孩子
You proclaim that you grew up in Long Island, but you've got the attitude of someone who grew up in Albion. Shitting out kids shouldn't be your main directive, building dynasties, generational wealth, and fulfilling one's goals should be one primary objective.
你号称长岛长大,做派却像 Albion 长大的。生娃不该是你的首要任务,建立王朝、世代财富、实现个人目标才该是主目标。
>>62682000
wasted dubs, that's in the middle of nowheresville and there are no utilities anywhere.
浪费了好尾数,那房子在鸟不拉屎镇正中央,方圆没有水电。
I'm starting to feel sorry for mutts when their "make it" 7 figure homes are all made out of plywood. It's over for woodcels.
我开始心疼美国佬了:他们「成了」级别的七位数豪宅全是胶合板。木屋党完了。
>>62679629
>well she gave me her insta, and discord
>她给了我 Instagram 和 Discord
fuck i hate this gay new world
操,我恨这个gay里的gay的新世界
just gimme you number woman, im gonna text you and only call if i am like lost and cant find you.
把号码给我就行女士,我只发短信,迷路找不到你才打电话。
>>62683192
you are seriously the most retarded, cringiest little pussy bitch on this site. you haven't read a single word i typed, all you do is think the dumbest shit possible and post it. my kids will own my kids. my legacy will be enslaving your children for eternity. your children will have no freedom, your children will be raped by my children whenever they feel like, and when they're done they'll simply throw their bodies into a furnace and never think about them ever again. you will have no legacy or generational wealth. i will have all of it. kill yourself or your children will suffer in hell on earth forever. you life is worth less than a cockroach.
你真是这站上最智障、最尬的小娘炮。我打的字你一个都没读,整天想出最蠢的东西就发。我的孩子会拥有你的孩子。我的遗产就是把你的孩子永世为奴。你的孩子毫无自由,我的孩子想怎么玩弄就怎么玩弄,玩完扔进熔炉,再也不会想起他们。你不会有任何遗产或世代财富,全归我。自我了断吧,不然你的孩子会在人间地狱受 forever 的苦。你的命连蟑螂都不如。
>>62683264
holy shit, you stayed up all night fucking crying about how retarded you are and how everybody knows you're fucking retarded, and you have the audacity to call others little girls. im starting to think that you are actually a 7 year old nigger cunt who is using chatgpt to come up with the most dogshit retarded takes ive ever read in my life. i don't care what color your skin is, spiritually you are a gorilla nigger.
我操,你通宵哭诉自己多智障、所有人都知道你多智障,还有脸叫别人小女生。我开始觉得你就是个 7 岁的黑鬼小逼,用 ChatGPT 生成我这辈子读过最狗屎的智障论调。我不管你什么肤色,精神上你就是只大猩猩黑鬼。
>>62665042
At least it's a nice lake house. Look at some of the prices for 75 year old houses on shittier in NH
至少是栋不错的湖畔屋。看看新罕布什尔更烂地段那些 75 年房龄的报价吧
I already have a nice lake house
我已经有栋不错的湖畔屋了
Maybe if I made more I would buy a winter home in Florida on a beach or something
要是赚得再多点,我也许会在佛罗里达海边买栋冬屋什么的
You all should realize that a K shaped economy means all the nice houses are still rising in price since all the money is going to the top, my house appreciated by 30% over the past year and I’m annoyed about it
你们该意识到 K 型经济意味着好房子还在涨,因为钱全流向顶层。我家过去一年涨了 30%,我反而烦
>>62683566
i never understood why they have these chairs just sitting around in hallways. i'm not going to sit in a hallway and stare at a wall. i'd rather put like, a suit of armor or a statue or something there. a fucking ficus. anything but a chair that cost $100k
我一直不懂他们为什么把椅子摆在走廊里。我又不会坐走廊里盯着墙看。放套盔甲、雕像、盆榕都行,就是别放 10 万刀的椅子
>>62683930
it's the entrance, you sit on the chairs to put on or take off your shoes, especially needed by older people
那是玄关,坐那儿穿脱鞋用的,对老人尤其重要
>>62668071
Why do Americans need so many baths? 2 is good for a family
美国人为什么需要那么多卫生间?一家人两个够了
some real Scuffed Realtor enjoyers in this thread
这楼里有不少《破烂房产中介》真爱粉
>>62683298
Ok? You pay like 3k a year for insurance and then you're covered. And if something happens and the insurers don't pay you sue. And usually they're willing to settle for 80% so you always take much more coverage then your house is worth.
哦?每年交 3000 左右保险就全保了。真出事保险不赔就起诉,通常他们愿意按 80% 和解,所以你永远买比房价更高的保额。
>>62684207
Nah, I grew up with a 2.5, it's more convenient, if I had to take a wicked shit, I could be in there for like hours if I needed to be.
不,我从小家里 2.5 个卫生间,方便得多。要是拉个猛的,我可以在里面待好几个小时。
>>62683835
Your only goal is to reproduce, that's nowheresville thinking.
你唯一的目标就是繁殖,这是鸟不拉屎镇思维。
>>62683561
that's only 11:22 PM my time, stop acting like a white girl.
我这儿才晚上 11:22,别装白人小女生了。
>>62684663
ignoring my other post because you know i verbally raped you. califags really are the worst scum on earth.
无视我另一条回帖,因为你知道我在言语上把你爆锤了。加州佬真是地球最烂的渣滓。
>>62675871
>You folks are being intentionally demotivational.
>你们这是在故意打击士气。
>You can find cheap houses if you look
>用心找确实能找到便宜房子
Yeah, on another site I read, someone just posted a house in Rolling Meadows, IL (yes it's a white suburb) which was under $200K and reasonably nice.
是啊,我在另一个网站看到有人发了伊利诺伊 Rolling Meadows(对,白人郊区)一套低于 20 万、相当不错的房子。
>>62684663
I got two white, blue-eyed sons, I'm doing my part.
我有两个白皮肤蓝眼睛的儿子,我在尽自己那份力。
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