If you had to hold only one for the next 10 years, would you choose Bitcoin or gold?
如果未来十年只能持有一个,你选比特币还是黄金?
>What makes your choice better than the other?
>你的选择凭什么比另一个好?
比特币 vs 黄金
If you had to hold only one for the next 10 years, would you choose Bitcoin or gold?
如果未来十年只能持有一个,你选比特币还是黄金?
>What makes your choice better than the other?
>你的选择凭什么比另一个好?
>>62645210
Bitcoin
obviously bitcoin especially considering recent events; gold has no rational reasons to be monetized and the market will devalue it 90% after all dying boomers are dead, plus the upside in bitcoin is leagues above
肯定是比特币,尤其考虑到最近的事件;黄金没有任何被货币化的理性理由,等垂死婴儿潮一代都走光,市场会把黄金贬值 90%,而且比特币的上行空间高出一个量级
>>62645217
>>62645218
Bots/jews. Gold obviously.
机器人/犹太人罢了。显然选黄金。
Bitcoin because it’s cheaper
比特币,因为它更便宜
>>62645210
Bitcoin. It's a harder asset with zero storage/security cost and small transaction fees.
比特币。它是更硬的资产,零仓储/安保成本,交易费还低。
Gold can be easily lost, stolen, or seized; you have to find someone to sell it to in person, when you need to use it; and if you have to travel with it, then it will become a liability.
黄金容易丢、被偷、被没收;要用的时候还得当面找人卖;随身携带的话它会变成负担。
>>62645230
>>62645238
if you're not parasites yourselves, you have been fooled. how many years have gold been used as money? how has been in power especially lately? gold requires a third party to be used realistically as money. mmmmmmhhh......
如果你自己不是寄生虫,那就是被忽悠了。黄金当货币用了多少年?掌权的尤其是最近是谁?黄金实际当钱用需要第三方。嗯……细品
you might not be spared if you continue feeding the parasites
继续喂寄生虫的话,你可能不会得到赦免
>>62645277
You do know you can buy gold ETNs on the stock market like any other asset, right? Extremely high liquidity so you can sell it whenever you want with almost zero spread.
你知道股市上可以像买其他资产一样买黄金 ETN 吧?流动性极高,随时能卖,几乎零点差。
>>62645210
>Bitcoin or gold?
>比特币还是黄金?
The one that the banks and billionaires are buying
选银行和富豪们在买的那种
>>62645743
show me the vaults then
那就把金库亮出来看看啊
>>62645210
Bitcoin. Can move it easily across borders
比特币。跨境带着走方便
>>62645263
>>62645263
Cheaper how? $80k per coin vs $4k/oz. How are we comparing these? All the bitcoin together is worth $1.57T for 20M bitcoins and all the gold in the world is worth $32T for 220,000 tons.
便宜在哪?一枚 8 万刀对一盎司 4 千刀,这怎么比?所有比特币合计 20M 枚值 1.57 万亿,全球黄金 22 万吨值 32 万亿。
I would rather have 18oz of physical gold vs 1 BTC (“digital gold”), which is roughly what that equals to
我宁愿要 18 盎司实物黄金也不要 1 个 BTC(所谓「数字黄金」),大致等值
>>62645830
1.5t is smaller than 32t therefore bitcoin is cheaper than gold
1.5 万亿小于 32 万亿,所以比特币比黄金便宜
>>62645210
Gold. I say this as someone that only holds bitcoin. Gold has appreciated far more in value than bitcoin.
黄金。虽然我手里只有比特币。黄金这些年的涨幅远超比特币。
>>62645717
You do know that anything that an institution holds for you isn't really yours and is just a promise, right?
你知道机构替你保管的东西其实不算你的,只是一纸承诺吧?
>>62645217
I like your choice
我喜欢你的选择
>>62645210
>>62645210
Gold. Bitcoin depends on the electric grid and the internet and all of this is subsidized by the fledgling government.
黄金。比特币依赖电网和互联网,而这一切都靠摇摇欲坠的政府补贴着。
your hitcoin crashes when the electrical grids fail in the coming collapse.
大崩坏来临时电网一断,你的币就崩了。
also, 90 percent of crypto transactions are made by bots with no human input whatsoever. if you've heard of the dead internet theory, it's the same thing with crypto. crypo is every bit as fake as the dead internet.
还有,九成加密交易是机器人做的,没有任何真人参与。如果你听过「死互联网理论」,加密就是同一回事。加密和死互联网一样假。
>>62646451
Crypto is useless and if it wasn’t for the wash trading, the volume would look like absolute shit. Anyone who says otherwise is a coping baggie
加密就是废物,要不是对敲刷量,成交量惨不忍睹。不承认的都是自我安慰的币某某
Gold. How can anyone trust digital fiat that's been around for less than the lifespan of a dog vs gold that's been in demand for 7000 years?
黄金。一条狗的寿命都没活过的数字法币,凭什么让人相信,而不是信需求了 7000 年的黄金?
>>62645210
Crapto is dead, and it's never coming back
加密已死,而且再也回不来了
only gold
只要黄金
>>62645210
Quantum computers will kill Bitcoin in the coming years.
量子计算未来几年会干掉比特币。
silver will be king
白银才是王
>>62645687
>>62646667
This too.
这也是。
>>62645277
>stolen, or seized
>被偷,或被没收
Digital assets, like 100% traceable bitcoin, are significantly easier to steal than physical assets.
像 100% 可追溯的比特币这种数字资产,比实物资产更容易被偷。
I've had thousands in bitcoin stolen from me through an address poisoning attack. I've never had gold stolen from me. BTC can be useful if I need to suddenly flee, but I have a house in an area with clean water. So I go gold and silver.
我被地址投毒攻击偷走过几千刀的比特币。黄金从没被偷过。BTC 在需要突然跑路时有用,但我在净水区有房,所以我选金银。
>>62645218
Obviously
>>62645230
I'm not a BOT. WTF israel. Free Palestine
我不是机器人。什么玩意以色列。自由巴勒斯坦
>>62646569
Only bitcoin. Fuck gold
只要比特币。去他的黄金
>>62646564
I trust Bitcoin
我信比特币
>>62645210
Gold 1000% because it is real and has tangible value. Bitcoin & crypto is intangible, is incredibly unstable, and quantum computing could kill it. It fluctuates wildly in value.
黄金 1000%,因为它是实物,有实实在在的价值。比特币和加密是无形资产,极不稳定,还可能被量子计算干掉,价值波动剧烈。
You should diversify your assets and have part of your portfolio be rare earth metals, stocks, energy, etc. crypto should only be a small part of your portfolio if at all and should be treated entirely as fun money.
你应该分散资产,配置点稀土金属、股票、能源什么的。加密顶多占组合里一小块,而且只当娱乐资金对待。
Not financial advice.
不构成财务建议。
>>62647632
>it is real and has tangible value
>它是实物,有实实在在的价值
Explain the "tangible value".
解释一下什么叫「实在的价值」。
inb4 it just is.
先答为敬:它就是有。
>>62646451
>in the coming collapse.
>大崩坏来临时
we still have at least what 20 years? should be able to buy way more guns per bitcoin by the time you'll need it
我们还有至少 20 年吧?等真到你说的那天,一个比特币能换的枪只会更多
>>62647632
if you have less than a 7fig port in 2026 you have no other choice but to be 100% crypto.
2026 年了,资产不到七位数的,除了满仓加密别无选择。
diversification is a luxury of the wealthy. the rest of us must hypergamble or become serfs forever
分散投资是富人的奢侈品。我们其他人要么豪赌,要么永远当农奴
>>62645277
>how tell if someone’s a zoomer
>怎么看一个人是不是 Z 世代
don’t tell him
别告诉他
>one has been around for millennia and has real world applications the while the other has no world applications besides wealth distribution from poor shmucks
>一个存在了几千年还有真实世界用途,另一个除了从倒霉穷鬼手里转移财富外毫无用途
would bet you could sell a lot of lottery tickets in a btc convention
我赌 BTC 大会上彩票销量一定很好
Gold is a loser, ,,,,,,high risk,,,,low return
黄金是输家,,,,,,,高风险,,,,低回报
>>62647835
>zoomer
Yeah, no. Gen X reporting.
可不。X 世代报到。
>real world applications
>真实世界用途
Explain them.
说说看。
>>62645210
>only one
>只能选一个
I'd have to do further research if I actually had to make the choice, but in this moment I'd go with Bitcoin. In just 10 years it's likely to grow and net me more gold than if I bought gold now. It can seem like a long time to people but it's not so long in a shifting financial world. Crypto already allowed me to buy 5x more metals than the first purchase of metals I made. But that's the flipside: even if I went with gold for the safest approach I can buy other assets to generate more money for metals.
真要选的话我还得再研究研究,但此刻我选比特币。光 10 年它大概率会涨,到时换到的黄金比现在直接买黄金多。对有些人来说 10 年很久,但在剧变的金融世界里不算长。加密已经让我第二次买金属时比第一次多买了 5 倍。反过来讲:就算求稳选了黄金,我也可以买别的资产赚更多钱再来买金属。
I got poor buying bitcoin,,,,,if only I used that money to buy gold and silver,,,,,I would have been rich,,,,,,what’s worse is that I spent years in pmg fiddling metals,,,,,lmao im such a loser,,,,,,,
我买比特币买穷了,,,,,要是那钱买了金银,,,,我就发财了,,,,,,更惨的是我还在 pmg 版摸了好几年金属,,,,,哈哈我真是个失败者,,,,,,,
>>62647955
What a loser
纯废物
>>62645210
Imagine being so devoid of ethics and greed driven that you would try to convince midwits that a "digital asset" is valuable. It is inherently unethical. Gold is always an once of gold, simple as.
想象一下,一个人坏到被贪婪驱动,试图让中等智商的人相信「数字资产」有价值。这本质上就不道德。黄金永远是一盎司黄金,就这么简单。
>>62645717
That is simply pure cope. A government where the gold is stored can simply seize it for the proletariat.
这纯属自我安慰。存放黄金的政府随时可以为了无产阶级把它没收。
It should be bitcoin or runescape party hat. Gold isn't in the conversation.
选项应该是比特币或 RuneScape 派对帽,黄金排不上桌。
>>62648256
Imagine watching a new asset develop and grow in value, while remaining ignorant and being so afraid of reading that you miss out on profiting from the next evolution in value storage.
想象一下,眼睁睁看着新资产发展壮大升值,自己却因无知和懒得阅读,错过了价值存储下一次进化带来的收益。
...couldn't be me.
……说的不是我。
>>62648344
>read my book goy
>读读我的书吧外邦人
Bitcoin is goy gold
比特币是外邦人的黄金
Troon doubloons, if you will
变性人的金币,你可以这么叫
>>62648370
>my book
>我的书
Way to confirm that you have done zero research on the subject.
好嘛,这波实锤你完全没做过功课。
If you take investment advice from someone who speak confidently about things that he has done no research on, then you're dumber than he is.
如果你听一个对自己没研究过的事还说得斩钉截铁的人的投资建议,那你比他还蠢。
>>62645210
Gold obviously
显然是黄金
>>62648344
BITCOIN
Bitcoin because it's easier to shove up your ass when you flee the country
比特币,因为跑路时更容易塞进屁股
>>62645210
Bitcoin, obviously. Gold was the greatest asset in the old days, but it is outdated and lost its position as the hardest asset. Also in the information age, it is very inconvenient to use, store and transact with, its value is more of an echo of the old generation that is too stubborn to learn new things, but that is a major risk as those people are on the way out.
显然比特币。黄金是旧时代的伟大资产,但过时了,不再是最硬资产。信息时代里它用着麻烦、存着麻烦、交易也麻烦,它的价值更多是老一辈拒绝学习新东西的回声,而这些人在退场,这是很大的风险。
So in the present day I would consider gold to be very high risk in the long term.
所以放今天看,长期持有黄金的风险其实非常高。
>>62648344
>Decentralized
Kek this nigga stupid you don’t know shit
笑死这老哥真蠢,你懂个屁
>>62648401
Both r fine
俩都行
>>62645210
Gold is better in the very long term. But for the next 10 years I think BTC will outperform it. The main driver will be the black economy who is sitting on heaps of cash whose value is being diluted by inflation.
超长线黄金更好。但未来十年我押 BTC 跑赢它。主要驱动是坐拥大把现金、购买力被通胀稀释的地下经济。
>>62648401
>Also in the information age, it is very inconvenient to use, store and transact with
>信息时代里它用着麻烦、存着麻烦、交易也麻烦
How the fuck is it inconvenient to store gold? Even if you consider the amount of oz’s it takes to equal one btc, that’s like 18oz? That’s a small tube. It’s also much easier to swap gold for cash and buy stuff with it than it is to go around trying to buy stuff with bitcoin, that’s not even counting the fees involved. People are more willing to accept gold than they would bitcoin in a p2p situation anyways.
存黄金怎么就麻烦了?就算按一个 BTC 等值算,也就 18 盎司?一根小管子。而且黄金换现金买东西比拿比特币到处找商家容易多了,还没算手续费。P2P 场景下人们也更愿意收黄金而不是比特币。
>So in the present day I would consider gold to be very high risk in the long term
>放今天看,长期持有黄金的风险其实非常高
A crypto shill talking about gold being high risk lol
一个加密狗居然说黄金高风险,哈哈
>>62645218
Agree with you anon
同意你,匿名老哥
>>62646544
Kys
>>62648731
It's solid
它很扎实
>>62645277
>Gold can be easily lost, stolen, or seized;
>黄金容易丢、被偷、被没收;
>Oh bro, you used the ColdCard default wallet generation and got your Bitcorn stolen because your wallet had low entropy? Sucks to be you!
>哦兄弟,你用 ColdCard 默认设置生成钱包、熵太低导致比特币被偷?祝你幸福!
>>62651455
Are you okay ser? Take ur med
你还好吗老哥?按时吃药
>>62651444
You sound mad
你听起来急了
>checks charts
>看一眼走势图
kek baggie
哈哈哈
>>62647910
>kekkimus maximus
>大笑止不住(kekkimus maximus)
have you ever held an expensive aux cord? And by the way e this whole thread is gay why is the decision between a turd sandwich(btc) and a giant douche(gold) - ETFs and stonks are your tru friends anons
你握过贵的音频线吗?顺便说这整层楼都好gay,为什么要在屎味三明治(BTC)和巨型 douche(黄金)之间选——ETF 和股票才是真朋友,老哥们
>>62645230
No way
不会吧
>>62651597
>gold is $4,500/oz, because music is important
>黄金 4500 刀/盎司,因为音乐很重要
>ETFs
Imagine being an NPC.
想象一下当 NPC 的感觉。
>>62654623
Bitcoin
>>62651455
We need Bitcoin
我们需要比特币
>>62654990
Ofc
>>62648574
As you say so
如你所说
>>62651578
Kek
>>62648397
this.i love bitcoin
就是这样。我爱比特币
>>62648414
What?
>>62658852
Nice shill
狗托力挺得不错
>>62645277
Why is this digital token represented as a solid tangible gold coin.
为什么这个数字代币要画成一块实心金灿灿的金币。
Lol
>>62645210
Gold.
I still don’t know what the fuck Bitcoin is.
我还是不知道比特币到底是个啥。
A bunch of faggot communists were almost able change the protocol recently.
一帮gay恋共产主义者最近差点改了协议。
>>62659025
>tangible
You think that you can touch that image?
你以为你摸得到那张图?
>>62659115
No but I can touch my gold and silver coins;)
摸不到,但我的金银币摸得到;)
>>62659136
>>62645748
>show me the vaults then
>那就把金库亮出来看看啊
>>62648302
>>62648344
>>62647910
>slow,
>not money
>不是钱
>not store of value
>不是价值存储
>is a volatile asset
>是波动资产
>banks hate it
>银行恨它
>can't be used by retail
>散户用不了
>used by mob and rich people to move money
>被黑帮和富人用来转移资金
Yeah buddy, bitcoin isn't it.
行了兄弟,比特币不是那块料。
Bitcoin, is , at best, a good marketing tool to get people into crypto.
比特币充其量是个把人引进加密圈的好营销工具。
>>62658830
>>62648414
Bitcoin has a centralized ledger.
比特币的账本是中心化的。
> using a public ledger called the blockchain
>使用名为区块链的公开账本
>Step 2: Download and Install the Bitcoin Software
>第二步:下载并安装比特币软件
>which should ideally be on a drive with sufficient storage space, as some Bitcoin software requires downloading the entire blockchain
>最好装在存储空间足够的盘上,因为有些比特币软件需要下载整条区块链
> (which can be hundreds of gigabytes).
>(可能高达几百 GB)。
It is loading all bitcoin transactions.
正在加载全部比特币交易记录。
>>62645210
Since I held gold in the last 10 years. And I know it 3x-ed.
因为我过去 10 年持有的是黄金,而且我知道它翻了 3 倍。
And I only hold 5% of my assets in risky assets such as bitcoin.
而且我只有 5% 的资产放在比特币这类风险资产里。
And there's no other choice of other crypto.
而且其他加密币都没得选。
Gold.
>>62659623
>this is true, because I typed it
>这是真的,因为我打出来了
enjoy poverty.
享受贫穷吧。
>>62659034
Then dyor.
那就自己做好功课。
>>62659623
low iq retard
低智商智障
Sealed Wii U games from ebay are dirt cheap right now and will go for thousands in the future
eBay 上的未拆封 Wii U 现在白菜价,以后能卖几千刀
>>62662001
Bitcoin . Gold will die
比特币。黄金会死
>>62660039
Hahaha
>>62648386
>>62645210
gold is worthless rock and bitcoin allows me to fuck prositutes wirelessly
黄金就是块没用的石头,比特币让我能隔空远程约到小姐
>>62645210
People should post their IQ and age when responding to this question.
回答这个问题前请先报上智商和年龄。
Bitcoin
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>>62645277
Lol at using a gold coin to represent bitclown.
用金币代表 bitclown(比特币小丑),笑死
Gold
Shitcoin replies are browns
支持屎币的都是棕皮
>>62663301
Gold replies are people who don't understand money.
支持黄金的都是不懂货币的人。
>>62663348
>brown reply
>棕皮发言
gold - physical item that i can easily sell or trade, prefer to have gold coins, dates and design add extra value, even jewellery would be okay.
黄金——实物,好卖好交易,我偏爱金币,年份和版式能加值,首饰也行。
personally, I would even prefer to have a hoard of silver coins than any btc
个人而言,我宁可囤一堆银币也不要任何 BTC
>>62663348
Haha Bitcoin is money
哈哈比特币就是钱
>>62662269
hi goldie
嗨金粉
I got rich by buying gold
我买黄金买的富
>>62646092
>>62645717
Buy real gold or it isn't reliably yours. Most gold traded is just paper gold backed up by futures contracts.
买实物金,否则所有权不可靠。市面上交易的黄金大多是期货合约背书的纸黄金。
If it's actual bullion, it's yours.
只要是真金条,那就是你的。
>>62662224
this
It's an enlightened retardpill that computer shit is fake and gay
「电脑玩意都是假的都是gay」这是种开智的retard丹
You'd be extremely lucky to not lose anything digital due to bitrot after a decade
十年后数字东西没被 bitrot(比特腐烂)啃掉一点,你都算走大运
All crapto will eventually become worthless because of bitrot, well probably long before that even lmao
所有加密币最终都会因为 bitrot 归零,大概率等不到那天就没了哈哈
>>62664684
I got rich by buying btc
我买 BTC 买的富
Crypto literally needs gold in order to not go to zero.
加密要靠黄金托着才能不归零。
>>62663350
Kek
>>62663388
Are you sure?
你确定?
>>62663348
Lol someone with that much gold would own the airport and their own aircraft instead of being a cuck who needs to get cavity searched to board a plane
笑死,真有那么多黄金的人直接买下机场和自己的飞机了,哪会像绿男一样被搜身才能登机
Also crapto is only usable in the US
还有,加密只在美国能用
>>62669571
And your forgot those with more than 1000 btc?
还有你忘了那些有一千多个 BTC 的人?
Anyone who says "gold," is low IQ. Simple as
凡是答「黄金」的都是低智商。就这么简单
>>62669747
Glownigger losers
情报机构走狗的失败者们
>>62670364
waiting for your pink wojak when the next huge dump happens.
等着下次大砸盘时你的粉红 wojak 表情包
>no this time its different
>不不这次不一样
>>62670442
You're nigger
你就是个黑鬼
>>62670554
Hahaha when?
哈哈哈什么时候?
>>62670554
>no this time its different
>不不这次不一样
Why would I want anything to be different? I've been buying the dips since 2019 and I haven't sold a sat.
我为什么要希望有什么不一样?我从 2019 年就一直在抄底,一个聪都没卖过。
>>62673542
Topic is not about that
主题不是这个
>>62670364
Fuck. Kys
操。去死
>>62672571
So where were you at
那你当时在干嘛
>>62645210
i already held gold for longer than the past ten years, which is how gold works, which is why those holdings have more than tripled. i already traded bitcoin in a 4-year period on one of its completely predictable difficulty-scaling price swings, which is how bitcoin works, which is why that much smaller position was able to 20x -- which bitcoin will never do again.
我拿黄金的时间远不止十年,黄金就是这么运作的,所以持仓翻了三倍多。我也在一个完整的 4 年周期里交易过比特币,就在它完全可预测的减半价格波动里,比特币就是这么运作的,所以那个小得多的仓位拿到了 20 倍——比特币再也不会有这样的行情了。
anyone stupid enough to "hold" crypto is probably also stupid enough to trade [paper claims on] a commodity, like gold or silver. do you also ride a 6-speed bike to your job as a car mechanic?
任何蠢到「持有」加密的人,估计也蠢到会去交易黄金白银这类商品的[纸面权益]。你也是骑 6 速自行车去当汽修工的吗?
i'll hold gold for the next ten years. and i've already got a (again, much smaller) position in GLXY to speculate in bitcoin recovery.
未来十年我持黄金。另外我已经建了(同样小得多的)GLXY 仓位,赌比特币回暖。
>>62681426
Stop bragging that you are a loser
别炫耀你是个失败者了
>>62681431
You're such a loser
你可真是个失败者
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