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Lets be honest, the stock market will go up forever

说实话吧,股市永远会涨。

4chan /biz/ · Anonymous · 2026-08-04 17:34 · 40 帖 · 原文 ↗

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#1 Lets be honest, the stock market will go up forever / 说实话吧,股市永远会涨。
Anonymous · 2026-08-04 17:34

there will be no crash no bubble pop, no "generational" buying opportunity, the stock market will go up forever because of the money printing, there will be few corrections here and there, and it will recover instantly, if you haven't bought before covid, you are priced out big time.

不会有崩盘,不会有泡沫破裂,不会有"一代人一次"的买入良机,股市因为印钱会永远涨,偶尔有点小回调,然后马上恢复,疫情前没买的话,你已经被彻底甩在门外了。

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/biz/1785864887674415.jpg

#2 No.62561189
Anonymous · 2026-08-04 18:04

>>62560969

if you're going to be a doomer, at least take the risks of one and use leverage, that's why koreans do it. You have at least 1% chance of making it, which is better than just giving up entirely

你要当末日论者,至少也得有点末日论者的胆,上杠杆啊,韩国人就这么干的。你至少还有1%的机会翻身,比直接躺平强多了

#3 No.62561218
Anonymous · 2026-08-04 18:10

>>62561189

1% chance of making it.

1%的机会翻身。

10% of Americans have 1m.

10%的美国人有一百万。

2.5% have 1m when you exclude a house.

排除房子的话,只有2.5%的人有一百万。

Lmao. Permanent underclass cope.

哈哈,永久底层阶级的自我安慰。

#4 No.62561430
Anonymous · 2026-08-04 18:53

>>62561189

I rather give up entirely than enable a system that gives me a 1% chance. You have stockholm syndrome

我宁愿彻底放弃,也不愿意支持一个只给我1%机会的系统。你有斯德哥尔摩综合症

#5 No.62561468
Anonymous · 2026-08-04 19:00

>>62561430

It wasn’t always like this. It is just like this now.

以前不是这样的。只是现在变成这样了。

#6 No.62561470
Anonymous · 2026-08-04 19:00

>>62560969

Basically if you aren't part of the top 10% aka the asset owning class, you're fucked

基本上,如果你不在前10%也就是资产拥有阶层里,那你就完蛋了

#7 No.62561548
Anonymous · 2026-08-04 19:14

>>62561470

This.

#8 No.62561799
Anonymous · 2026-08-04 19:52

>>62560969

Just look at the bond market. The national debt of US is soon to be 40 trillion and Japan is one of the most indebted nation on the planet.

看看债券市场就知道了。美国国债很快要40万亿了,日本也是地球上负债最重的国家之一。

We are approaching an event where national bubble debt, housing bubble dept and AI construction debt will all pop in a biblical way.

我们正逼近一个时刻,国家债务泡沫、房地产债务泡沫和AI建设债务都会以圣经史诗级的方式一起爆掉。

#9 No.62562081
Anonymous · 2026-08-04 20:30

>>62560969

The powers that be have a new system that has been in the development for decades now, ready to be rolled out in the coming years. It will operate in parallel starting sometime this year and by the next decade it will be fully operational as the Agenda 2030 goals are slowly being implemented.

当权者有一套已经研发了数十年的新系统,准备在未来几年推出。它会在今年某个时候开始并行运行,到下一个十年将全面运作,随着2030议程目标慢慢实施。

There will be no collapse, no violence, no uprising, no world war, no draft, no revolution, no killing of jews or politicians or other such fantasies. Instead there will be law & order, compliance and total surveillance until the very end. AI will be at the center of it all.

不会有崩溃,不会有暴力,不会有起义,不会有世界大战,不会有征兵,不会有革命,不会有犹太人或者政客被杀害或者其他类似的幻想。相反,只有法律与秩序、服从和全面监控,直到最后。AI将是一切的核心。

The Great Reset is inevitable.

大重置是不可避免的。

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/biz/1785875430181648.jpg

#10 No.62562092
Anonymous · 2026-08-04 20:31

>>62560969

You can just DCA into VOO and get a basic bullshit ass job. No point in sulking like some weirdo 24/7.

你直接定投VOO,找个普通破班上着就行。没必要像个怪人似的一天到晚自怨自艾。

#11 No.62562101
Anonymous · 2026-08-04 20:33

>>62560969

get on the ride or get left behind

上车上车,不上车就被甩在后面。

#12 No.62562491
Anonymous · 2026-08-04 21:46

>>62562101

The ride ended

车已经开走了。

#13 No.62562833
Anonymous · 2026-08-04 23:24

>>62561799

They'll print to keep it afloat, they cannot meet spending obligations in a crash, printing naturally worsens the effect leading to more printing.

他们会印钱来硬撑,崩盘时他们根本付不起开支,印钱自然让情况更糟,然后就印更多。

>>62560969

In light of the above you have one of the last in a lifetime opportunities to buy gold on sale. Associated miners are likewise heavily discounted relative to earnings and projected brrrr. No one likes to buy things when they are advantageous only when they are at ATHs so they can make threads about being priced out. I have so many stocks I have been DCAing as value plays that I cannot build meaningful positions in any of them. Oil production remains underfunded due to volatility and destruction of infrastructure such that shortages will become structural in 2-3 years; once president retard is no longer manipulating the market via tweets investment will chase guaranteed returns. Low cost and emergent tech weapon manufactures are likewise poised for growth, anything that can provide value IE capability for less than the cost of the majors will earn contracts. And a correction is more than likely but know that many of the current field of publicly traded companies will not survive and the government will try to fix it all with printing. Buy companies that are making profits today or making smart use of capital to those ends and you'll have large if artificially inflated gains when that happens. Don't catch a falling knife because some of them won't stop. One can print money but not oil, electricity, steel or wheat, this is simple to exploit.

鉴于以上,你有一个此生难遇的机会趁打折买黄金。相关矿业股相对盈利和预期印钞量来说也严重低估。没人喜欢在划算时买,只在历史高点才买,好发帖抱怨买不起。我有一堆打算价值投资定投的股票,多到每只都没法建仓。石油生产因波动和基础设施破坏而资金不足,两三年内短缺会变成结构性的;等那个傻逼总统不再靠推文操纵市场,投资就会涌向有保障的回报。低成本的新兴武器制造商也蓄势待发,任何能以低于巨头成本提供能力的东西都能拿到合同。回调很可能发生,但要知道现有一堆上市公司里很多活不下去,政府会试图靠印钞收拾烂摊子。买今天就在赚钱或聪明地把资本往那个方向用的公司,到时候就算收益是人为吹大的你也能赚一大笔。别接飞刀,因为有些停不下来。钱能印,但油、电、钢和麦子印不出来,这点太好利用了。

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/biz/1785885845528789.jpg

#14 No.62562861
Anonymous · 2026-08-04 23:31

>>62562081

>bot pasta

>机器人发帖

In the three years this has been posted there has been next to no investment in energy production leading to deficits only projected to grow in the near term. I hope whatever system they use can run off of a bicycle generator; no fuel soon for actual generators because the system is so effective that the AI super computers couldn't figure out that bombing oil fields and making inhabitants of shipping bottlenecks sperg out makes less oil. Your fake and gay machine will die of thirst from a drought it helped conceive, pathetic.

这帖子发出来三年了,能源生产投资几乎为零,赤字只会越滚越大。我希望他们那套系统靠自行车发电机就能跑;真发电机很快就没燃料了,因为这系统太“高效”了,以至于AI超级计算机都没想到,炸油田、让航运瓶颈的居民发疯,并不会有更多石油。你那假兮兮的破机器会死于自己一手促成的干旱,真可悲。

#15 No.62562864
Anonymous · 2026-08-04 23:33

>>62560969

If it keeps going up forever how are you priced out if you didn't buy before covid?

要是股市永远涨,你为啥没在疫情前买就被挤出局了?

#16 No.62562884
Anonymous · 2026-08-04 23:38

>>62560969

>what is "things you say at the top of a massive bubble"

>什么叫“在巨型泡沫顶部说的话”

#17 No.62563309
Anonymous · 2026-08-05 01:45

>>62560969

There will be "crashes", but only from the retarded /biz/ perspective. 20% dips that recover in 6-9 months. To the AIDS-riddled mind of the crypto trader, the 0dte trader, this is an infinity of time. They can't comprehend "well, that sucked. but this time next year it'll be up 7% from before the crash". Everything has to be GET RICH IN 9 WEEKS!

“崩盘”会有,但只是从傻逼/biz/视角来看的。20%的回调,六到九个月就恢复了。对于艾滋病上脑的币圈交易员、0DTE玩家来说,这是无穷无尽的煎熬。他们理解不了“哎呀,真倒霉。但明年这个时候会比崩盘前涨7%”。一切都要变成“九周暴富”!

>if you haven't bought before covid, you are priced out big time.

>如果你在疫情前没买,那你现在基本被彻底挤出市场了。

this is especially stupid, considering your opening statement. There will be no crashes, right? How could you possibly be "priced out" if it's just going to keep going up (which it will)?

这尤其蠢,看看你自己开头说的话。不会有崩盘,对吧?那怎么会被“挤出市场”呢,反正它只会一直涨(而且确实会)。

#18 No.62563327
Anonymous · 2026-08-05 01:50

>>62560969

>the stock market will go up forever because of the money printing, there will be few corrections here and there, and it will recover instantly

>股市会因为印钱永远涨下去,偶尔来几次小回调,立马就恢复。

You're only now catching up on the 2020 era MMT narrative? Man, that's practically the main reason they printed all that money to begin with. Beyond obvious to anyone with an IQ over at least 90, not even kidding.

你现在才跟上2020年代MMT那套说法?老天,那基本就是他们当初印那么多钱的首要原因。智商超过90的人都看得明明白白,真没开玩笑。

#19 No.62563334
Anonymous · 2026-08-05 01:53

>>62562833

>They'll print to keep it afloat

>他们会印钱来撑住局面。

the amount of money needed to cover all that debt is astronomical... you're an idiot

要覆盖那堆债务需要的钱数简直是天文数字……你就是个傻逼。

#20 No.62563338
Anonymous · 2026-08-05 01:55

>>62560969

I decided against my faggot doomer emotions and lump summed my portfolio from 40% cash a few weeks ago and I’m already up 10%.

我下定决心不再当那个悲观的怂货,几周前把仓位从40%现金一把梭哈进去,现在已经涨了10%。

Feels good

感觉真爽。

#21 No.62563342
Anonymous · 2026-08-05 01:57

>>62560969

Buy now, AI will create quadrillions in wealth, but this is truly the last time to own something, buy SpaceX now, buy the ROBT ETF for robotics, buy VOO, buy Quantum computer stock, you are still early but this will be the last chance, forever

现在就买,AI会创造出千万亿的财富,但这真是最后一次拥有资产的机会了,买SpaceX,买ROBT机器人ETF,买VOO,买量子计算股,你还不算晚,但这会是最后一次机会,永远的那种。

#22 No.62563343
Anonymous · 2026-08-05 01:57

>>62563334

Wait, you goylets are not baiting... you ACTUALLY think a scenario is even conceivable in which the US defaults on it's debt obligations?

等等,你们这帮小韭菜不是在钓鱼……你们还真觉得美国有哪怕一丁点可能违约债务?

LMAOOOOO

I don't even know what to say here, it's like trying to explain algebra to the profoundly mentally retarded. Just at least skim the wiki article on Seigniorage for once. The Fed absolutely is in a position where they can, and likely will, overinflate the USD to wipe the debt and then transition over to a digital stablecoin (Mark of the Beast). It's been blindingly obvious for decades. Tech oligarchs around Trump have talked about it openly.

我都不知道该说啥了,这就像跟重度智障解释代数。好歹去瞄一眼铸币税那篇维基百科吧。美联储绝对有这个能力,而且很可能真会过度通胀美元来抹掉债务,然后过渡到数字稳定币(兽的印记)。这事儿几十年来明摆着。特朗普身边的科技寡头都公开聊过。

#23 No.62563526
Anonymous · 2026-08-05 03:14

>>62563334

What exactly do you think happened in 2020 with QE? Like 20% of all dollars were created back then directly in response to a drop in receipts. Politicians are on record that they would print money rather than default in nominal terms, one's trying to balance the budget do not get re-elected. We had 4000 threads about the price of McDoubles because of this and you think they won't do it again?

你觉得2020年QE到底发生了什么?当时差不多20%的美元就是在直接应对收入下滑时造出来的。政客们有公开记录说宁印钱也不名义违约,想平衡预算的人选不上。我们当时因为这事刷了4000个帖子聊麦双堡价格,你觉得他们不会再干一次?

Bailouts are the thing in question, they cannot print enough to sustain the entire market as was more or less achieved in 08, we were stronger then. But they can save the bond market in a sense and that has become intertwined with equities.

问题在于救市,他们印不了那么多钱撑住整个市场,08年那种情况算勉强做到了,那时候我们底子更硬。但他们某种程度上能救债市,而现在债市跟股市已经缠在一起了。

#24 No.62563743
Anonymous · 2026-08-05 05:14

>>62560969

If you weren't part of the top 10% in 2025, you're lower class

如果你在2025年没进前10%,那你就算底层阶级了。

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/biz/1785906879267958.png

#25 No.62563757
Anonymous · 2026-08-05 05:20

>>62560969

Quite the contrary, the anti-AI crisis of mid June gave us massive dip buying opportunities until a week ago, when everyone just came back from summer and, ignoring all metrics like RSI, just went back to pumping everything, especially SanDisk. Up 44% on no merit. Just had to put very tiny amounts, like $10, every time resistance was broken and then full-port when it seemed it would not stop pumping.

恰恰相反,六月中旬那波反AI危机给了我们巨大的低位吸筹机会,直到一周前,大家从暑假回来,完全无视RSI之类的指标,直接又开始狂拉一切,尤其是闪迪。没任何基本面涨了44%。只要每次突破阻力位就扔一点点钱,比如10美元,等看着要停不下来时就全仓进去。

#26 No.62563789
Anonymous · 2026-08-05 05:41

retard here, but i think money printing alone doesn't explain the bigger picture of stock market expansion. it's also going up because of continued human endeavor and innovation, albeit with a few scams here and there for dramatic effect.

我这人有点蠢,但我觉得光印钱解释不了股市整体扩张的大背景。股市上涨还因为人类持续的努力和创新,虽然偶尔会冒出几桩骗局来点戏剧效果。

#27 No.62563860
Anonymous · 2026-08-05 06:38

>>62563789

This. Stocks going up is simply us becoming more efficient and advanced at business. We will continue until there is some world war or economic revolution that will reset the balance.

确实。股市上涨说白了就是咱们做生意越来越高效、越来越先进。会一直涨下去,直到哪场世界大战或经济革命把平衡重置。

#28 No.62563950
Anonymous · 2026-08-05 07:41

Yeah im sure the brownoid hordes that take over the world in the next few decades are totally gonna run it just like White people did for the past 50 years

是啊,我敢打包票未来几十年接管世界的棕皮肤人种肯定会像白人过去五十年那样把全球打理得井井有条。

#29 No.62564188
Anonymous · 2026-08-05 10:14

>>62560969

The global economy is held together by the USes ability to power project military might. The day that ends is the day the dollar, and all markets connected to it, end.

全球经济是靠美国的军事实力投射撑着的。这天一结束,美元和所有跟它挂钩的市场也就完了。

But even with how impotent the US looks right now, still the world does not want to directly challenge them. It will be a slow downward glide that will happen over a generation (this generation). In your lifetime you'll be fine, zoomer, but as hard as you'll bitch and moan, gen alpha will REALLY see the horror.

就算美国现在看着再窝囊,全世界还是没人敢直接挑战它。会是缓慢下滑,拖整整一代人(就是这一代)。你活着的时候没事,小年轻,但不管你到时候怎么叫苦连天,阿尔法一代才是真能见识到地狱的。

Screencap and invest accordingly.

截图存证,照此投资。

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/biz/1785924885295127.jpg

#30 No.62564200
Anonymous · 2026-08-05 10:23

>>62560969

This isn't a blackpill. Excessive QE is the only chance any of you have to make it.

这不是悲观论调。过度量化宽松是你们这帮人唯一能翻身的指望。 ⟦ 要是央行和政客们都财政自律,你投资年回报能有个5%就偷着乐吧。但他们不自律,所以赶紧抓住机会。在两位数通胀成为新常态之前,一切都还不晚。

If central banks and politicians were fiscally responsible you'd be lucky to get 5% annual returns on your investments. But they're not, so take advantage of it. It's not too late until double digit inflation becomes the new normal

要是央行和政客们财政上靠谱,你投资收益能有5%年化就该烧高香了。可他们不靠谱,所以你得抓住这个机会。趁两位数通胀还没变成新常态,现在动手还不晚。

#31 No.62564206
Anonymous · 2026-08-05 10:28

>>62563950

White people ran it all into the ground due to greed and corruption. Now black and brown people will pick up the pieces and make things better for EVERYONE.

白人因为贪婪和腐败把一切都搞砸了。现在黑人和棕色人种会收拾残局,让所有人都过得更好。

#32 No.62564211
Anonymous · 2026-08-05 10:30

>>62564188

>invest accordingly

>照此投资

Silver and gold or XAR and XLE?

投白银黄金还是XAR和XLE?

#33 No.62564214
Anonymous · 2026-08-05 10:31

>>62564211

PMs are for protecting your wealth against inflation. Not to make money from it.

贵金属是用来对冲通胀保值的,不是用来赚钱的。

If you're already wealthy, go for it. If you're not, what exactly is the point?

你要是已经有钱了,那随便。要是没有,这有啥意义?

#34 No.62564227
Anonymous · 2026-08-05 10:40

>>62564214

I'm wealthier than my peers, but that's not saying much. I can contribute 100-200 a week starting next year. Already opened a roth IRA.

我比同龄人富一点,但也就那样。明年开始每周能投个100到200,已经开了罗斯IRA账户。

#35 No.62564352
Anonymous · 2026-08-05 11:49

>>62564227

You get the point though. PMs are for people who've already made it and want to protect their wealth

你明白这意思就行。贵金属是给那些已经混出头、想保护财富的人准备的。

#36 No.62564407
Anonymous · 2026-08-05 12:19

>>62564352

If the shit ever hits the fan, people with your mentality about PMs will be homeless.

真要出大事的话,就你这贵金属心态,先流落街头的就是你。

#37 No.62564421
Anonymous · 2026-08-05 12:24

>>62564407

>If the world falls apart, I'll be ahead and you won't!

>世界要是崩溃了,我稳赢你完蛋!

There's like a 5% chance of that happening in our lifetime. And even hyperfinlation and transitioning to a new currency doesn't make the world fall apart. There's just a decade or two of economic turbulence.

咱们这辈子碰上这种事儿的概率也就5%。而且就算恶性通胀、换成新货币,世界也不会崩溃,顶多就是一二十年的经济动荡。

So you have a tiny chance of getting ahead, but in the real world you're falling behind. Best of luck

所以你有极小概率能翻身上位,但在现实中你是在落后。祝你好运。

#38 No.62564426
Anonymous · 2026-08-05 12:24

>>62560969

Wrong

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/biz/1785932668599837.jpg

#39 No.62564444
Anonymous · 2026-08-05 12:31

>>62564214

You especially need silver if you're speculating on shitcoins, as a hedge against self inflicted financial ruin.

你要是炒屎币,那特别需要囤点白银,用来对冲自己把自己搞破产的风险。

#40 No.62564494
Anonymous · 2026-08-05 12:46

>>62563789

>>62563860

dont fall for this doomer narrative of a crash/economy collapse coming. think of it this way. across the country in major cities you have a bunch of type A Ivy league graduates who have all run 5 miles before 6 am trying to do everything in their power to increase shareholder value. these types exist in nearly every major company. imagine if you could get that group of people working for YOU. you ever hear an old man tell you work smarter not harder. yeah, that is the definition of investing in US companies. equity compounds faster than labor. save your money and invest.

别信那些唱衰市场的末日论调,说什么要崩盘、经济要塌。换个角度想。全国各大城市里,有一堆藤校毕业的A型人格精英,早上6点前跑完5英里,绞尽脑汁就为了提升股东价值。这类人在几乎所有大公司里都存在。想象一下,要是能让这帮人替你干活呢。你听过老人跟你说要聪明干活而不是傻干吧。对,那就是投资美国公司的定义。股权复利跑得比工资快。把钱存下来去投资吧。

>>62564227

smart idea

聪明想法

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