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Any advice is welcome

求各位给点建议。

4chan /biz/ · Anonymous · 2026-08-04 08:43 · 15 帖 · 原文 ↗

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#1 Any advice is welcome / 求各位给点建议。
Anonymous · 2026-08-04 08:43

Any advice is welcome

求各位给点建议。

I work a shitty job for ~1k dollars monthly in a ~thrid world country. Living with my parents i could afford half or more of my income for something.

我在个三流国家干着烂工作,月薪大概1000美元。跟爸妈住,能拿出收入的一半以上来搞点什么。

I wannabe freeee. No need for riches, just a thing or two that can generate profits comparable with my current income and a possibility to make them a little bigger.

我想自由啊。不需要大富大贵,只要能有个东西赚到相当于现在收入的利润,还能有机会稍微做大点就行。

So of course, i need something with little investments at the start and it needs to be fast (im a little paranoid about the possible coming of the 3d world war in a few years and my age of 26 in which i havent achieve anything of notice, and my brain is already losing neuroplasticity)

所以当然得是启动成本低的,而且要快(我有点焦虑,怕两三年内三战爆发,而且26岁了还没干出什么名堂,脑子已经开始失去神经可塑性了)。

Thinking about diving into crypto, memecoins and trading bots for them and awaiting the autumn time when bitcoin is supposed to drop. I know the basic stuff, for now. Though very risky, it seems one of the few possible paths for me.

我在琢磨要不要跳进加密货币、meme币和交易机器人,等着秋天天比特币该跌的时候。目前只懂点基础。虽说风险很大,但这好像是我为数不多能走的路。

Sometimes i can come up with a good(at least on paper) business idea but these are for the good times or better places than economic/political/etc situation in my country.

有时候我能想出些好点子(至少在纸面上看着不错),但那些都是适合好时代或者比我国家经济政治状况好的地方。

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/biz/1785832985862606.jpg

#2 No.62559055
Anonymous · 2026-08-04 09:07

>Gold

Investing is a bit like prospecting: how much time will you put into seeking opportunity rather than recreation?

投资有点像淘金:你愿意花多少时间去找机会,而不是消遣?

I started with 0 knowledge, got money from Amazon night shifts, and since I didn't know what would perform best, I looked at stocks, metals and crypto.

我从零开始,在亚马逊上夜班攒了钱,因为不知道什么最能赚钱,我就把股票、金属和加密货币都看了看。

How much time will you spend carefully reading up on the history/roadmap/whitepaper of an asset? The more informed your decision the better, not only for choosing an asset with potential, but holding it instead of selling way too early, or panic-selling if events like conflict cause the market to plummet.

你会花多少时间仔细研究一个资产的历史、路线图或白皮书?你的决策越明智越好,不仅是为了选中一个有潜力的资产,也是为了能拿住它而不是过早抛售,或者因为冲突这类事件导致市场暴跌时恐慌性卖出。

Some days I didn't just use 90% of my free time researching and comparing different options, but my brain felt fried. But it was worthwhile to cut back on the gaming for this. Multiple 10x, once waking up to see less than 1K had become over 30K. But there's plenty of things I missed at their most ideal prices to-date, just months before they would skyrocket in price, because aside from those few days of research, there were many days I wasn't looking for new assets.

有些日子我不光把90%的空闲时间都用在研究和对比不同选项上,脑子都快烧了。但为了这事少打游戏挺值得的。屡次翻10倍,有一次醒来发现不到1千变成了3万多。但也有很多东西我在它们至今最理想的价格时错过了,就在它们即将暴涨的几个月前,因为除了那几天的研究,还有很多天我没在找新资产。

You're approaching these purchases with the same carefulness you'd use before buying a new device, car or home. And because you're not spending money you don't have, you gains will outpace your losses.

你是用买新设备、车或房子前那种谨慎态度来对待这些购买的。而且因为你没花你没有的钱,你的收益会跑赢你的亏损。

One model goes as such: $1 doubled again and again becomes over 1$ million after 20 instances of doubling. So 20 assets that at least double in price. Will you make 20 correct picks in a row? Probably not unless you're being extremely careful and waiting a while between cashing out of one to put it into the next.

有个模型是这样的:1美元翻倍再翻倍,20次翻倍后就变成100多万美元。也就是说需要20个至少翻倍的资产。你能一连做对20次选择吗?大概不行,除非你极度谨慎,并且每次从一种资产套现到投入下一种之间等上一阵子。

But this model assumes you can only put as much into $1 into anything, and only it one asset. Many could put $1 into multiple assets, but aren't willing to spend the time reading. This model also assumes any correct choice you make only doubles in price. But in my own experience assets have done triple, quintuple, and more. So you can start small, or go bigger. The real key is to be diligent and keep learning.

但这个模型假定你只能把1美元投进一个东西,而且只投一个资产。很多人可以把1美元投进多个资产,但不愿意花时间阅读。这个模型也假定你做对的任何选择只翻一倍。但就我自己的经验来看,资产翻三倍、五倍甚至更多的都有。所以你可以从小开始,也可以玩大点。真正的关键是要勤勉,持续学习。

#3 No.62559128
Anonymous · 2026-08-04 09:45

>>62559055

Sure. But what is there to do, exactly? I will research the shit out of it. You just name an idea.

当然。但到底要做什么呢?我会把这玩意儿研究个底朝天。你只管提个想法。

#4 No.62559146
Anonymous · 2026-08-04 09:53

>>62559016

charming but all Goyim in the world eventually are going to be fully enslaved and if you resist to much you will be canceled from society

挺迷人的,但世界上所有外邦人最终都会完全被奴役,如果你反抗得太多,你会被社会封杀。

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/biz/1785837228278795.jpg

#5 No.62559151
Anonymous · 2026-08-04 09:54

All "advice" posted on /biz/ is terrible, even if you find the Best Possible crypto/stock the retards on here will try to fud you out of it, then shill you some shit that never goes up.

/biz/ 上发的一切“建议”都很烂,就算你找到最牛的数字货币或股票,这儿的智障也会想把你忽悠出去,然后给你推销一些永远涨不起来的垃圾。

#6 No.62559153
Anonymous · 2026-08-04 09:55

>>62559055

Don't listen to this guy he's a pedo who watches vtubers who reposts this story on mutliple boards.

别听这人的,他是个看虚拟主播的恋童癖,还把这个故事到处贴到多个板块。

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/biz/1785837351843348.gif

#7 No.62559188
Anonymous · 2026-08-04 10:16

>>62559151

For me, even this outcome is OK. At least i would get SOMETHING to think about. And knowing what you just said, it might lead to an ok result.

对我而言,就算这个结果也能接受。至少我能得到点东西想想。知道了你刚说的这些,说不定能带来个不错的结果。

Im comletely out of the 'business and finance manipulation' info-field so any idea is appreciated.

我对“商业和金融操控”这个信息圈完全没接触,所以任何想法都欢迎。

>>62559153

Kek

#8 No.62559216
Anonymous · 2026-08-04 10:31

>>62559128

Every year has different opportunities and few people see them all, just look around. I had no one to tell me what to look into, I just visited threads and asked questions.

每年都有不同的机会,很少有人能把它们全看透,就四处看看。没人告诉我要去研究什么,我就是逛逛帖子、问问问题。

I didn't just get biased opinions about an asset going to the moon, I'd sometimes have people tell me a dip was expected and to wait for that, but they'd also tell me to actually read up on the latest news and understand why a dip was expected.

我得到的不仅仅是关于资产要飞上天的偏颇意见,有时候会有人告诉我预期会有回调,让我等着,但他们也会叫我去读最新的新闻,搞清楚为什么回调可期。

Was made aware of precious metals in 2023 before their dramatic rise in 2026. Toshi in 2023 before its ATH at the start of 2025 which gave me the opportunity to rotate into precious metals before that ATH in 2026. All just from browsing, reading up on what I'd see posted, narrowing down the list because I only had so much to start with.

我是2023年才注意到贵金属的,那时它们还没在2026年大涨。2023年入手Toshi,赶在2025年初它ATH之前,这让我有机会在2026年ATH前轮换到贵金属。全靠刷帖子、研究看到的内容,把范围缩小,因为我最初只有那么点本金。

In a way, those are leads. But you can't just buy what I bought. Doing the research will show you both are still higher than in 2023, but by reading up on the latest news about each you might see enough potential to buy into them now, or maybe not.

某种程度上,这些算是线索。但你不能照搬我买的东西。做足功课会告诉你,这两样都比2023年时高,但如果你追着最新新闻深入了解,也许能看到足够潜力现在入手,也可能看不到。

I will say look into energy/nuclear/uranium related assets.

我会说,去关注能源/核能/铀相关的资产。

However, my current understanding is that potential there is more long-term. I'm not up-to-date because my plan is to rotate into them, but in your case you research might show it's worth getting into them now as a starting point. 3 Mile Island being reactivated. Operation Windlord and its precedent of portable micro-reactors.

不过,我目前的理解是那里的潜力更偏长期。我没跟上最新动态,因为我的计划是轮换进去,但你的情况不同,你的研究可能会发现现在入场是个不错的起点。三哩岛重启了,还有“风之主行动”和它那套可移动微型反应堆的先例。

In the end even if we both looked around the same amount starting today, you'd come across different assets and see potential where I don't due to your life experience.

说到底,就算咱俩今天从同样的起点开始研究,你也会因为人生经历不同,看到我没发现的机会,发现不同的资产。

#9 No.62559226
Anonymous · 2026-08-04 10:33

>>62559153

First part no, second part yes. Any board I go on there's someone wondering about money. Most people see /biz/ related matters as impossible, but my experiences show it's not. Assuming one has money to spare, the rest is largely a matter of diligence.

前半句不认同,后半句认同。我上任何论坛都有人操心钱的事。大多数人觉得/biz/那些东西不靠谱,但我的经历告诉我并非如此。只要有多余的钱,剩下的主要就是拼勤快了。

#10 No.62559237
Anonymous · 2026-08-04 10:41

>>62559016

>diving into crypto, memecoins and trading bots

>去搞加密货币、meme币还有交易机器人

Just the 3 things not to do, lol.

这三样恰恰是不能碰的,哈哈。

There's no get-rich-quick.

没有快速致富这回事。

Anything that looks like get-rich-quick is gambling.

看起来像快速致富的都是赌博。

Gamblers lose money.

赌徒亏钱。

With this set: start slurping dips for gold now, index funds in October with your cash, and expect good (MA100) to excellent (MA200) entry opportunities before November and once a year. Avoid memes, IPOs and greater fool trading, and focus on good trends (current: semiconductors, then mining and nuclear, then robots), good fundamental values and good entry times (corrections, fear).

按这套来:现在开始逢低吸黄金,十月拿现金买指数基金,十一月前以及每年一次,预期会有不错的(MA100)到很好的(MA200)入场机会。避开meme股、IPO和博傻交易,专注好趋势(当前是半导体,接下来采矿和核能,再往后机器人)、好的基本面价值和好的入场时机(回调、恐慌时)。

This strategy is less spectacular, but it will give you compounding money in the future. Gambling is for losers, especially in the third world.

这个策略没那么刺激,但未来会给你复利增长的财富。赌博是输家的游戏,尤其是第三世界国家。

图片: https://i.4cdn.org/biz/1785840068173555.jpg

#11 No.62559292
Anonymous · 2026-08-04 11:08

>>62559237

>semiconductors, then mining and nuclear, then robots

>半导体,接下来采矿和核能,再往后机器人

Extactly the things i couldnt do.

正好是我做不到的事。

#12 No.62559375
Anonymous · 2026-08-04 11:56

>>62559292

But why? They are high. If you bought low, you can start selling. If you didn't buy or already sold, wait for dips and start slurping semis (NOT AI model companies, these won't be profitable, as soon as they want to make money they'll get replaced by open weights... which run on semis anyway).

但为啥呢?它们已经高了。你要是低位买过,可以开始卖了。你要是没买或者已经卖了,那就等回调再开始吸半导体(别碰AI模型公司,那些不会盈利,一旦想赚钱就会被开源权重替代……反正开源权重也得跑在半导体上)。

#13 No.62559395
Anonymous · 2026-08-04 12:06

>>62559375

Because my moronic government is cutting the country from the global world. I cant buy a single share from the west in any slightly convenient way, only through intermidiaries, on each and every step, which are not to be trusted and even if they are, it costs money anyway.

因为我那傻逼政府在把国家跟全球割裂。我想买一股西方的股票都没什么稍微方便点的途径,只能层层过中间商,每一步都不可信,就算可信,中间成本也贵得要死。

And shares in my country, in these times... let's just say it would be much better to buy a random memecoin while jerking off in the closet. Not to say, our technical side of thigs is almost of the stone age by now.

我们国家的股票,这年头……这么说吧,还不如躲在衣柜里撸管时随便买个迷因币。更别提,我们的技术层面现在简直还停留在石器时代。

#14 No.62559457
Anonymous · 2026-08-04 12:29

>>62559395

Crypto is ass. Zoom out to a bigger interval and look at how it behaves before you decide to go in. Since stocks aren't an option you might wanna consider foreign bonds (probably banned too) or precious metals (kind of a meme with how they got manipulated in February). Hyperliquid has stock-USDC pairs that can be traded 'off the grid' so to speak, but again, it's crypto.

加密货币就是一坨屎。先拉大时间周期看看它的走势再决定要不要进场。既然股票玩不了,你也许可以考虑外国债券(估计也被禁了)或者贵金属(二月份被操纵成那样,也算个梗了)。Hyperliquid上有股票-USDC交易对,可以说是"地下"交易的,但说到底,还是加密货币。

#15 No.62559925
Anonymous · 2026-08-04 14:20

>>62559457

>Crypto is ass

>加密货币就是一坨屎

Everyone is saying that. Mb it's not that bad after all? You just keep yourself in young state of mind and be vigilant about trends. Mb even ai and shit is already doing all of this with some success.

人人都这么说。也许其实没那么烂?你只要保持年轻心态,对趋势保持警惕就行。说不定AI什么的已经在做这些事而且搞得还挺成功。

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