As a Turk, should I take out loans and buy gold? I can borrow at a monthly interest rate of 4%, while annual inflation is around 50%. Would that be a smart financial decision?
作为土耳其人，我该贷款买黄金吗？我能借到月息4%的贷款，而年通胀率约50%。这会是明智的财务决策吗？
作为一个土耳其人，我应该贷款买黄金吗？我能按月利率借到钱
As a Turk, should I take out loans and buy gold? I can borrow at a monthly interest rate of 4%, while annual inflation is around 50%. Would that be a smart financial decision?
作为土耳其人，我该贷款买黄金吗？我能借到月息4%的贷款，而年通胀率约50%。这会是明智的财务决策吗？
>4%
too obvious
太明显了
Just buy stablecoins. Euro stablecoins.
直接买稳定币。欧元稳定币。
>>62535779
Should have been dumping your savings into USD 5 years ago, could start now
五年前就该把积蓄全换成美元，现在也开始还不迟
why is roachcoin collapsing?
为什么roachcoin在崩盘？
>>62535849
Dunno but my shorts are a payback for Constantinople
不知道，但我做空是为了报复君士坦丁堡
>>62535779
I do this as an American. Too many stories of guys losing everything they have to divorce, medical bills, and just unforeseen financial events. If you currency goes to zero or someone sues you then you will wish you had assets.
我是美国人，所以我这么做。有太多男人因为离婚、医疗费用或其他不可预见的财务事件而失去一切的故事。如果你的货币归零或者有人起诉你，你会后悔没有持有资产。
>>62535779
>Sold nearly $26 billion in gold
>抛售了近260亿美元黄金
Is this why it's dumping?
这就是在砸盘的原因吗？
>>62535779
>sold gold
>卖出黄金
>to defend the currency
>为了捍卫货币
bruh
>>62536075
Their government also thinks low interest rates will lead to lower inflation, lmao. It's a circus over there
他们的政府也认为低利率会降低通胀，笑死。他们那儿简直是个马戏团
>>62535983
Yes. Russia is doing the same thing. I think China and Poland are slurping the most this year.
没错。俄罗斯也在这么做。我觉得今年中国和波兰买得最多。
>>62535849
Would YOU want to do business with Turks? Fucks sake, even their ice cream men jerk you around.
你会想和土耳其人做生意吗？见鬼，连卖冰淇淋的都耍你。
>>62535779
Its a turkish thing
这是土耳其人的特性
>going down faster then you can say erdogan
>跌得比你说埃尔多安还快
>>62535779
>buy gold
>买入黄金
Yes. And silver
对。还有白银
>>62535795
Fag
>>62535779
First of all, explain to me at what point wanting to take Vienna is a good idea.
首先，给我解释一下，在什么情况下想要夺取维也纳是个好主意。
>>62535779
I remember when 1 lira was like 0.95 BGN. The fuck you guys doing?
我记得当时1里拉大概兑0.95保加利亚列弗。你们 guys 在搞什么？
>>62535779
Is this why every shop and restaurant wants me to pay in Euro instead of Lira?
这就是为什么每家店和餐厅都让我用欧元而不是里拉付款的原因吗？
I thank the heavens every day that turkiyeish people keep voting for that watermelon seller over some halfway competent CHP candidate
我每天都感谢上天，土耳其人宁愿投票给那个卖甜瓜的家伙，也不选那个半吊子的CHP候选人
solution is to create a new lira backed by work, and convert old lira to new lira, the catch is the new lira is issued by everyone, gov still collects taxes but gov cant print. the purpose to all of this -> x.com/mass_energy_r_t
解决方案是发行一种由劳动 backed 的新里拉，并将旧里拉兑换成新里拉。关键是新里拉由所有人发行，政府仍收税但不能印钞。这一切的目的 -> x.com/mass_energy_r_t
>>62539549
This is antisemtic
这是反犹太主义
>>62535779
Does your income increase more than 50% per year?
你的年收入增长超过50%吗？
>>62535779
A smart financial decision would be for Edofag to stop playing sultan and go kiss the wall. This wouldn't be happening if you weren't trying to compete with Israel for power in the region. Turds already had that power and did absolutely nothing with a land mass spanning three continents anyway. So get on your brown knees, take the prepp and go kiss that wall faggots.
艾尔多安（注：原文Edofag疑似拼写错误或戏称）做个明智的财务决定，就是别装苏丹，去墙边面壁。如果不是试图在地区内与以色列争权，根本不会发生这种事。土耳其人本来就有跨越三大洲的领土优势，却什么都没做。所以跪下，去亲吻那堵墙吧，白痴。
>>62539584
Fuck off moshe.
滚蛋，摩西。
>>62535779
dont be a retard türkbro, you NEVER invest with borrowed assets, one weird political event and you are fucked for life, dont do it, only gamble with what you can afford to lose and in hand
别犯傻了土耳其老哥，你绝不能用借来的钱投资。一旦遭遇突发政治事件，你一辈子就完了。别这么干，只用亏得起的钱去赌博，而且得是手头有的现金。
>>62540268
but Kiyosaki told me rich only invest with debt
但清崎（Kiyosaki）告诉我，富人只靠债务投资。
>>62540268
If inflation is expected to be higher than the borrowing rate, wouldn't it make sense to take out a loan in lira, concert to euro, then wait a year or two, then convert half your euro back to lira to pay it back. And you'd still have a bunch of euros left.
如果预期通胀高于借贷利率，那借里拉换成欧元，等上一两年，再把手头的一半欧元换回里拉还贷，剩下的欧元就是净赚，这逻辑难道不成立吗？
>>62540268
Especially in countries where stupid political events are not so rare.
特别是在那种突发政治事件并不罕见的国家。
>>62540291
That's why he has to milk random people and make them get indebted on the spot to to pay tens of k to him for education arbitrage. Ofc he wants to help them, and a billionaire like him with so much debt therefore money wouldn't need to charge what's pennies for him in return for his help; it's just a symbolic token of gratitude.
这就是为什么他得去压榨随机路人，让他们当场背债，以此向他支付数万美元的教育套利费。当然他是想帮他们，而且像他这样身负巨债因而富可敌国的亿万富翁，怎么可能因为帮他而收取对他来说如零钱般的费用；那只是象征性的感恩令牌。
erdogan thought selling the gold would make the turkish lira stronger?
埃尔多安以为卖黄金能让土耳其里拉升值？
he must be making fun of his roach population at this point
他这时候一定是在嘲笑他的蟑螂种群吧
anyway i have to go to the bulgarian unemployment office
反正我得去趟保加利亚失业登记处
>>62535779
When you have allowed your nation and it's leadership to become a third world dicatorslop run by a gangser cartel infested with muslim fundementalism gold is not going to do much for you either. I doubt a lump of gold saved a nigger in thecongo in 1966 from seeing is grandchildren become aids cannibals for the local village warlord either.
当你允许你的国家和领导层变成一个由黑帮 cartel 统治、充斥着伊斯兰原教旨主义的第三世界独裁粪坑时，黄金也救不了你。我怀疑一块黄金也没能救下1966年刚果的一个黑人，让他免于看到自己的孙辈变成当地军阀的食人病毒携带者。
>>62540544
>anyway i have to go to the bulgarian unemployment office
>反正我得去趟保加利亚失业登记处
Ah a Russian speaker.
啊，是个讲俄语的。
>>62535779
I don't understand how the watermelon seller fucked up this badly, turkey receives a ton of tourism and has a bunch of industries like car assemblies for euro car companies, textiles, refining, as well as lots of for export agriculture, if they had not been fucking with the currency it'd probably be worth a lot, but now nobody wants to touch it and they keep their savings in foreign currency, pushing it down even more
我真搞不懂西瓜摊贩怎么就搞得这么烂。土耳其旅游业发达，还有汽车组装（给欧洲车企）、纺织、炼油，以及大量出口型农业。要不是他们乱搞汇率，经济本来应该很不错。但现在没人敢碰里拉，大家都把钱存成外币，进一步压低了汇率。
>>62536349
pr*testant animals had weakened the position of the habsburgs to the point where it was feasible, and they had encouraged ottoman aggression throughout the 30 years war, iirc frederick of the palatinate wanted them to keep all of austria
新教势力将哈布斯堡王朝削弱到了可以撼动的地步，而且在三十年战争期间他们一直怂恿奥斯曼帝国搞侵略。我没记错的话，普法尔茨的弗里德里希曾希望他们占领整个奥地利。
>>62535779
yapma moruk
别闹了，老铁
>>62536160
uh oh melty
哦豁，要熔化了
it’s just a running gag
就是个持续玩梗罢了
Take it with humor
幽默点看待吧 顺便说一句，军队规模第二大
Second largest military by the way
顺便说一句，它是世界第二大军事力量。
Turkey seems like a well run country compared to any western shithole. No homeless or druggies, women aren't fat miserable skanks, people seem normal and happy . The government doesn't trans your kids.
跟任何西方的屎坑比起来，土耳其像个治理良好的国家。没流浪汉也没瘾君子，女人不胖不怨妇也不骚，人们看起来正常又快乐。政府也不搞你那套变性教育。
Food is affordable. Best sandwich I ever had. Dürümle sauced chicken $5
食物便宜。我吃过最好吃的三明治。杜尔屈姆卷饼配酱鸡肉只要5美元。
>>62540921
>Second largest military by the way
>顺便说一句，军队规模第二大
That's like a woman saying her clit is the second largest penis in the room.
这就像个女人说她的阴蒂是房间里第二大的阴茎一样离谱。
>>62540956
you paid 4€ for rat meat?
你花了4欧元买肉鼠？
>>62541022
yeah
NEVER eat roach food
永远别吃蟑螂出没地方的食物
NEVER get anything somehow been made in roachland
永远别碰任何不知怎么搞出来的蟑螂窝里的东西
>wash your hand after touching a roach
>摸完蟑螂要洗手
>>62541022
>>62541138
Found the jelly skellys. Lmao
找到那些果冻软趴趴的家伙了。笑死
>>62541561
>jelly of a turkish sandwich
>土耳其三明治里的肉冻
>>62541737
Yep, you cry nonstop about your shithole countries when someone agrees with you you reply with low IQ racism.
对，当有人同意你的观点时，你就用低智的种族主义来回应那些抱怨你们屎坑国家的家伙。
>>62535779
>annual inflation is around 50%
>年通胀率大概在50%左右
I thought the 2% gimmick was a global thing?
我以为控制通胀2%是个全球共识来着？
you guys didn't get the memo to keep inflation in check?
你们没收到把通胀压住的通知吗？
>>62535779
>borrow at a monthly interest rate of 4%
>月利率借高达4%
there is no asset on earth that gives a stable 4% interest per month
地球上没有任何资产能稳定提供每月4%的利息
>>62541830
> Bizidiots believe what ever they are told. Lmao
> 土耳其笨蛋们别人说什么信什么。笑死
>>62541866
its called inflation
那叫通货膨胀
>>62541887
you can just hike rates
你们提高利率就行了啊
>>62540956
what net worth will impress a turkette
多少净资产才能让土耳其老哥印象深刻
>>62535849
Extreme fiscal irresponsibility for many consecutive years.
多年严重的财政不负责任。
>>62543002
10 dollars
10美元
Doesn't Turkey have like 46k GDP per Capita?
土耳其人均GDP不是差不多4.6万美元吗？
How are they not suffering right now?
他们现在怎么还没受苦？
how to izmir gf?
怎么搞到伊兹密尔女友的？
>>62535779
We need to retake Constantinople and reform the Latin Empire.
我们需要收复君士坦丁堡并重建拉丁帝国。
>>62543370
When everyone is poor prices are cheap.
当大家都穷的时候，物价就便宜。
>>62543002
It’s not the money. I married one and was poor for a long time. Be ready for crazy mood swings and vengefulness.
不是钱的问题。我娶了一个土耳其姑娘，穷了很久。准备好面对情绪大起大落和睚眦必报吧。
>>62543611
Turkey is more expensive than southern Europe.
土耳其比南欧还贵。
>>62536356
We had our own bunch of retards for PMs for the last 20 years but they literally made a watermelon merchant their dictator, what can you expect.
过去20年我们自己的首相里也有一堆蠢货，但他们居然让一个卖西瓜的小贩当独裁者，还能期待什么呢。
>>62540956
Turkey is a fat and gay stinky country where everyone just eats fucking bread all day and kiss their male friends on the tips of the penis (HAHA BUT ITS JUST A JOKE AND NOT GAY, OKAY!?!). Not sure why anyone would even think about going there.
土耳其是个又胖又基佬又臭的国家，那里的人整天就知道吃他妈的面包，还亲他们男性的朋友（哈哈但只是个笑话不是同性恋，好吗！?!）。真不知道有人怎么会想去那里。
>>62543656
Grim if they can sell shotguns and handguns in the US for 400 USD after markups and importer's getting their cuts.
这太阴险了，要是加上加价和进口商的分成，在美国卖支霰弹枪或手枪居然只要400美元。
>>62540956
Turkey has one of the highest female obesity rates in the world
土耳其是全球女性肥胖率最高的国家之一。
Ah, so this is part of the reason gold tanked—selling it to prop up the currency. Usually countries just do this with dollar reserves/treasuries though. Why gold?
啊，所以这就是黄金暴跌的部分原因——卖黄金来撑货币。通常国家只用美元储备或国债做这事。为啥用黄金？
>>62543764
Turkey has one of the highest incomes and standards of living in the world. Y'all jealous, and you should be
土耳其是世界上收入和生活水平最高的国家之一。你们就是嫉妒，活该。
>>62535779
4% * 12 = 48%, not even getting started on compounding.
4% × 12 = 48%，这还没算复利呢。
If you think inflation will escalate then it's a reasonable bet. If not, you'll still be losing money.
如果你觉得通胀会加剧，那这是个合理的赌注。如果不是，那你照样在亏钱。
You should move any cash that you have into gold, at least. Or silver, or dollars, or Bitcoin. Anything the government can't devalue. I personally would suggest Bitcoin since it's also easy to hide from the authorities and impossible to confiscate if you use decent encryption of your keys. Not to mention that if you flee to Germany or wherever else, you can take it with you much more easily than a brick of gold shoved up your ass.
你至少应该把现金换成黄金。或者白银，或者美元，或者比特币。任何政府没法贬值的东西。我个人建议比特币，因为它容易藏起来不被当局发现，而且如果你用好的密钥加密，根本不可能被没收。更别说如果你逃到德国或其他地方，带它可比往屁眼里塞金条方便多了。
>>62535849
Erdogan has been robbing the country so he can buy the votes to stay in power.
埃尔多安一直在抢劫这个国家，就为了买选票继续掌权。
They are jealous that Turks are rich, have great food and a good leader in Erdogan
他们是嫉妒土耳其人有钱、有好吃的、还有埃尔多安这样的好领袖。
>>62535849
>Israel's biggest enemy after Iran
>以色列在伊朗之后最大的敌人
>Roach having a multi day maldout posting goyslop
>蟑螂连续多天破防发狗粮贴
So rich hes eating the same cuisine fent heads do
这么有钱，吃的跟瘾君子一个菜系
>>62546385
are you really satisfied with just one dürüm?
你真的吃一个Dürüm就满足了吗？
>>62546394
They are 1400 calories with 80 grams of protein so quite filling. I usually space them out 4 hours, today at 2 and 6 pm,,,,,,living the dream in Turkiye
一个1400卡路里，80克蛋白质，挺顶饱的。我一般隔四个小时吃一个，今天下午2点和6点各吃了一个……在土耳其过得太爽了
>>62546645
why do you only eat at Dürümle though?
但你为什么只吃Dürümle啊？
>>62546645
>1400 calories with 80 grams of protein
>1400卡路里80克蛋白质
what kind of cattle tier food is this
这是什么牛马级别的食物
>>62546664
Because they have a kiosk and it's delicious
因为他们有自助取餐机，而且味道好。
>id h0SC862q
Those aren't even his pics
那些根本不是他的照片。
He downloads them from some guy who travels social and pretends they're his own
他从某个到处旅游的人那里下载，然后假装是自己的。
Notice how they're not the actual original pic, buy a screenshot?
注意到没，都不是原图，而是截图。
He does that in /pmg/ too. Just lives vicariously through others experiences and pretends he goes to those places
他在/pmg/里也这么干。就靠别人的经历过瘾，假装自己去过那些地方。
It's a sad existence
活得真可悲。
>>62547370
Pmg is jealous of my fat stacks and fine cuisine
PMG就是嫉妒我的大把钞票和精致美食。
>>62547414
>fat stacks
>大把钞票
The equivalent of $200
也就是200美元的水平。
>fine cuisine
>精致美食
Shitty looking soup
看着就恶心的汤
You're poor lol and brown
你又穷又黑，笑死。
You should kill yourself
你应该去死。
>>62547503
He is obsessed with some of the generals here and hangs out in them 18+ hours a day.
他对这里某些板块痴迷得很，每天在里面待18个小时以上。
>>62540979
so you admit America is just a huge cunt?
所以你自己也承认美国就是个巨型傻逼？
>>62544925
this
>>62547414
that's like 70 usd there in liras btw
顺便说，那在土耳其就相当于70美元里拉。
>>62547575
He should definitely kill himself lol
他确实该去死，哈哈。
>>62535779
How many hours of labor does it take to equal one meal in turkey vs one meal in USA?
在土耳其吃一顿饭要多少小时劳动，在美国又要多少小时？
>>62547503
I think he was making a joke, in fact I think what you wrote was the implied punchline...
我觉得他是在开玩笑，而且你写的其实就是那个隐含的笑点……
>>62548366
>joke
Hang around /pmg/, he's sincere
你去/pmg/待一阵，他是认真的。
>>62548366
Lmao, amazing how a random person gets it and the tards at pmg will all screech in unison, "see this proves you are Jeet in Mumbai I'm buying more silver since you said it was a scam"
笑死，一个路人就能懂的事，pmg 那群蠢货还会齐声尖叫：“看吧，这证明你是孟买的 Jeet，你说它是骗局，我反而要买更多白银”
Check out this gold I bought in Santiago Chile it proves I'm rich!
看看我在智利圣地亚哥买的黄金，这证明我有钱！
>>62548546
I bet y'all never eat steak that costs $6700! I got rich from my investments in
我打赌你们从没吃过价值 6700 美元的牛排！我是靠投资发家的
>>62543762
why the fuck is everyone eating so much bread? as an american who mostly eats wraps, burgers, and gyro pita, how is everyone consuming so many carbs? even the french don't consume that much and their baguettes are world renowned. what teh fuck is going on
到底为什么每个人都吃这么多面包？作为一个主要吃卷饼、汉堡和皮塔饼的美国人，你们是怎么摄入这么多碳水的？连法国人都不吃那么多，他们的法棍可是世界闻名。到底他妈怎么回事
>>62548591
>>62548591
The government subsidizes bread in turkey so if you are poor you eat bread. Poor in your country eat Pepsi, potato chips and koolaid pineapple etc which isn't healthy either
土耳其政府补贴面包，所以穷人只能吃面包。你们国家的穷人吃百事可乐、薯片和酷爱菠萝味饮料之类的，那也不健康
>>62548546
>Check out this gold I bought in Santiago Chile
>看看我在智利圣地亚哥买的黄金
That's brass. Not the first time you've lied about it either.
那是黄铜。你也不是第一次在这事上撒谎了。
Pic very related.
图很有相关性。
>>62548664
Holy shit what a delusional dickhead lmao
我靠，真是个妄想症蠢货，笑死我了
>>62548664
Kektop!
>>62546645
fat ass
死胖子
>>62540956
>>62541561
>>62541766
>>62546385
>>62546645
Based mall restaurant floor eater. Where are you from?
在商场餐厅地上吃东西的狠人。你是哪来的？
>>62546933
In some places mcdonalds have kiosk also
有些地方的麦当劳也有自助点餐机
>>62535779
>As a Turk, should I take out loans and buy gold?
>作为一个土耳其人，我应该借钱买黄金？
>I can borrow at a monthly interest rate of 4%, while annual inflation is around 50%.
>我月利率能借到 4%，而年通胀率大约 50%。
Assuming you can afford the loans and the interest rates and inflation rates stay the same, i don't see why not. Just don't overdo it.
假设你还得起贷款，而且利率和通胀率保持不变，我看不出有啥不行的。只是别搞过头了。
Your idea is far from a new one, Turkey used to be one of the largest producers of Gold coins due to the massive demand of Turks wanting to get out of the Lira.
你的想法并不新鲜，土耳其曾经是全球最大的金币生产国之一，因为大量土耳其人都想摆脱里拉。
>>62549115
Switzerland . Our Wendy's doesn't have pizza. Have to fly to Georgia for that
瑞士。我们这儿Wendy‘s没有披萨。得飞乔治亚才能吃到
>>62551315
i don't get it
我没看懂
>>62551388
Oh yeah post with timestamp
哦是吗，带时间戳发出来
But you never will, bot lol
但你永远不会发的，机器人哈哈
>>62547579
USSR was also the second military, i guess you're deexisting yourselves like them, the new greek states that form from your remnants will live a better life.
苏联也是第二军事强国，我猜你们就像他们一样在自我毁灭，从你们残骸里冒出来的新希腊式国家会过得更好。
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