If you were the owner of 4chan and wanted to gain users by spending the least amount of money possible what would you do?
如果你是4chan的老板，想花尽可能少的钱来增加用户量，你会怎么做？
如果你是4chan的老板，想花最少的钱来增加用户量
If you were the owner of 4chan and wanted to gain users by spending the least amount of money possible what would you do?
如果你是4chan的老板，想花尽可能少的钱来增加用户量，你会怎么做？
>>62528862
remove the 90 second captcha request. board activity has dropped in half since they added it.
去掉那个90秒的验证码请求。自从加了它，版面活跃度减半了。
>>62528862
Cut the janny pay
削减Janny（自动版主）的工资
>>62528888
Checked. Add janny subscriptions, you should have to pay to be a moderator. And use that new revenue stream to fund an advertisement campaign.
已阅。增加Janny订阅制，让用户花钱当版主。然后用这笔新收入搞广告宣传活动。
>>62528862
Add a dedicated fortnite board.
加个专门的堡垒之夜版面。
Give me (You)s.
给我来点（你）的发言权。
>>62528862
The simple fact that honestly answering that question will get you banned is honestly the simple answer
诚实地回答这个问题就会被封号，这本身就是最简单答案
You can get banned for pretty much anything here except breaking the rules.
在这里，除了违规，你几乎什么都可能被封号。
Banned people don't post. Banned IP's don't post
被封号的人不会发帖。被封IP段的人也不会发帖
>>62528862
I'd make a retarded system whereby you get 'new users' to endlessly complete fuck retarded puzzles to the point of insanity before allowing them to post. Then, when they've finished all that and hit Post (finally!), tell them they are IP range banned, for shitz and giggles. That'll get them rolling through the doors, so it will.
我会搞个脑瘫系统，让“新用户”在允许发帖前无休止地解开各种弱智谜题，解到疯掉为止。然后，当他们终于搞定一切点击“发帖”时，告诉他们因为图一乐被IP段封了。这会让他们涌进来，懂的都懂。
>#4chanMarketingzTeam
>#4chan营销团队
>>62529084
Yep every time my IP changes it says I'm rangebanned
对，每次我的IP一变就显示被IP段封禁
I suspect every IP in the world might be banned by now
我怀疑现在全世界所有的IP可能都被封了
Bring back /l/
把/l/版块搞回去
Ban all israeli and indian ip addresses
封禁所有印度和以色列的IP地址
Dock the jannies pay
扣Janny的工资
>>62528888
Kekked and checked
乐了，已阅
>>62529084
Also ironically enough I've been rangebanned for posting that chart
讽刺的是，我因为发了那个图表也被IP段封了
>>62528862
I wouldn't want to gain users. I'd try and make more honeypot agreements with government agencies and find ways to sell more data
我不想增加用户。我想尝试和政府机构签更多的蜜罐协议，找办法卖更多数据
>>62528862
Range ban thirdies, add nation flags to every board, no insane captcha since no more thirdies spamming, ???
IP段封禁第三人称用户，每个版面加国旗，因为没有第三人称用户 spam 了所以不用搞 insane captcha，？？？
Advertise for a while on kiwifarms, kanyetothe, quartertothree and similar 4chan-adjacent places.
在Kiwifarms、KanyeToThe、QuarterToThree 和其他跟4chan沾边的地方打一阵子广告。
>>62528862
Mass Jannie executions
大规模处决Janny
>>62528862
Ban all the low quality shit ruining pol and make it a real board. Ban all the trannies and anime posters
封禁所有破坏/pol/质量的水货，把它变成真正的版面。封禁所有跨性别者和动漫发帖者
>>62528862
Add flags on every board
每个版面都加国旗
forced anon, IDs, and flags on every board except "random" ones like /b/ or /s4s/. only have meme flags on /pol/. bring back the post IP counter. ban social media screenshot threads outside of /b/ and similar boards.
除了/b/或/s4s/这种“随机”版面外，其他所有版面强制匿名、ID和国旗。/pol/只保留梗图国旗。恢复显示帖子IP地址计数器。除了/b/和类似版面外，禁止其他版面发社交媒体截图帖。
>>62528862
Range ban Israel and india
IP段封禁以色列和印度
>>62528862
Create a token to pay better people to moderate.
搞个代币，付钱给更靠谱的人来当版主。
>>62528888
based eight
基吧的八分之一
>>62528862
>wanted to gain users
>想要增加用户量
... why?
……为什么？
>>62528862
screenshot thread campaign
截图帖活动
>>62528888
1/8888 of 0 is still 0
0的八千八百八十八分之一还是0
>>62528866
it deleted jeet posting ... your idea is retarded
它删掉了Jeet发帖……你的想法脑瘫
>>62528862
Webp support, allow webms with sound up to 8 MB. Get with the times already.
支持Webp格式，允许最高8MB的有声Webm。跟上时代吧。
>>62528888
Bezob browses /biz/?
Bezob浏览/biz/版块？
>>62528862
Rebrand as FROGGO'S WORLD!
重新品牌化为FROGGO'S WORLD!
>>62528862
official nigger mondays and wednesdays
官方黑人周一和周三
Remove the retarded captcha
去掉那个脑瘫验证码
Its insane that they still haven't fucking removed that shit
他们他妈的到现在都没删掉那堆垃圾，简直疯了
Bunch of fucking retards yeah I love solving fucking 3 or 4 puzzles every single time I want to make a post
一群脑残，没错，我超爱每次发帖前都要他妈解开三四个验证码的感觉
Or wait 300 seconds before making a thread
或者等个三百秒再发帖
retards
>>62528862
Ban all IP's from Israel, India, and the UK while we're at it. Theyre too far gone.
顺便把以色列、印度和英国的所有 IP 都封了吧，他们没救了。
>>62528862
gotta gamify 4channel bru, add like a store where u get points based on (you)s and then u can get specialized features and then add a troll leaderboard and encourage irl trolling by doing publicity stunts and really epic funny viral marketing
得给 4chan 搞点游戏化啊兄弟，加个商店，根据（你的）点赞数给分，然后可以解锁专属功能，再搞个喷子排行榜，通过搞宣传恶作剧和真正史诗级搞笑的病毒式营销来鼓励线下喷人
>>62530350
I agree with this sirs
我同意各位的说法
Selling meme coins very hard now with crazy stupid captcha
现在正在疯狂卖迷因币，靠那操蛋愚蠢的验证码
>>62530393
>If you dont like to solve fucking puzzles every time training ai models this means you are le jeet
>如果你不喜欢每次训练 AI 模型时都要解那堆破验证码，那你就是“投机分子（jeet）”
good goy
好犹太人
>>62528862
How does that benefit the website from a business perspective? Everyone here is tech savvy enough (I hope) to have an adblocker. More users mean more server costs and dealing with more FBI requests.
从商业角度看，这对网站有啥好处？这儿的人都很懂技术（我希望如此），都有广告拦截器。用户越多意味着服务器成本越高，还得应付更多 FBI 的请求。
>>62528862
>wanted to gain users by spending the least amount of money possible what would you do?
>想花最少的钱来增加用户你会怎么做？
Reduce image size limits. Most images won't suffer from being lower resolution.
降低图片大小限制。大多数图片降低分辨率后并不会受影响。
>>62528862
make users do retarded captchas to train some IA in Bulgaria, I'd make money with zero effort, plus some low iq retards would pay for a premium account
让用户做那蠢得要死的验证码来训练保加利亚那边的 AI，我啥也不用干就能赚钱，再加上一些低智脑残会花钱买高级账号
>>62528888
Yep, I'd say at least cut it in half. Maybe even more.
没错，我说是至少砍掉一半。甚至可能更多。
shut the website down
把网站关了
As it should have been doen after the hack
被黑之后本该就这么做的
Selling ad space to shill frams, disgusting
把广告位卖给托儿公司，真恶心
Reputation forever destroyed
声誉彻底毁于一旦
no growth ever again
再也不会有增长了
>>62528862
The actual answer is the obvious one
实际答案就是那个显而易见的
You gotta get rid of racists and schizos if you want more traffic. But by now all you have left are racists and schizos
如果你想吸引更多流量，就得清退种族主义者和精神病患者。但到了现在，剩下的只有种族主义者和精神病患者了
>>62532238
Schizos and racists are the whole reason why anyone would even come to 4chan.
正是因为有这些精神病患者和种族主义者，才有人愿意来 4chan。
Nothing, shut it down.
没辙，关了算了。
The imageboard format is dying, there's no saving it, it will go the way of the BB forums.
图像板格式正在消亡，没救了，它会像 BB 论坛那样落幕。
>>62532249
Yes but that's not growing numbers and it's stopping everyone else from coming here.
是啊，但这并不能带来增长，而且这也在阻止其他人来这里。
Normies love anonymous posting too. They just don't want to talk to crazy people
普通人也喜欢匿名发帖。他们只是不想跟疯子聊天 ⟦ 复刻 Clover 或 Kuroba 做成官方应用，付钱给开发者保持它在 Android 和 iOS 上更新且功能完整。
>>62528862
Fork clover or kuroba and make it the official app, pay a developer to keep it up to date and fully functional on both Android and iOS.
复刻 Clover 或者 Kuroba，并把它变成官方应用，付钱给开发者以维持其在 Android 和 iOS 上的持续更新与完整功能。
>>62529172
I mean this literally: every mobile AT&T and Verizon IP I've tried has either been rangebanned for upload banned.
我是字面意思：我试过的每个 AT&T 和 Verizon 的移动 IP 都被范围封禁或禁止上传了。
>>62532238
I come to 4chan specifically to hear from schizos and racists (like me). If I wanted normgroid opinions I would go to every other social site.
我专门来 4chan 就是为了听那些精神病和种族主义者（像我一样的）发言。如果我想听普通人（normgroid）的意见，我去别的社交平台就行了。
>>62532256
You are the kind of person who destroys everything good
你就是那种把一切好东西都毁掉的人
Create new boards that people will actually use. /tube/ for small-time streaming content, /eceleb/ for obvious reasons, /ai/ for AI content of all kinds, etc.
创建一些人们真正会用到的新板块。/tube/ 用于小型流媒体内容，/eceleb/ 显然就是为了娱乐明星，/ai/ 用于各种 AI 内容，等等。
>>62532301
you need to go back
你该滚回去了
>>62528862
Make sure all media formats are supported, like MP3. You would be surprised how many people make Suno parodies of songs and want to upload them somewhere. Same goes for video, 3D models.
确保支持所有媒体格式，比如MP3。你会惊讶于有多少人把Suno做的歌曲恶搞成 parody 版，并想上传到某个地方。视频和3D模型也是一样。
>>62529598
cuz no one posts here
因为根本没人发帖
>>62530369
>like a store where u get points based on (you)s and then u can get specialized features
>比如一个商店，你根据（你）得分获取积分，然后可以兑换特殊功能
oo I like that
噢，我喜欢这个主意
>>62530473
Well without user generated content, they have no content. Honestly 4chan has a bad business model. I can't believe their still trying ads in 2026 knowing what we know now.
没有用户生成内容，他们就没有内容。老实说，4chan的商业模式很烂。我真不敢相信2026年了他们还在做广告，尽管我们现在已经知道那意味着什么。
>>62532251
BB forums?
BB论坛？
>>62532301
>eceleb
that will probably just become gangstalking and harassment
那大概率会变成帮派监视和网络骚扰
I see why they don't want to deal with that
我明白为什么他们不想处理这种烂摊子了
>>62532275
>>62532278
That's the point
这就是重点
If they want normie dollars and normie numbers they first have to get rid of everyone here including you and me
如果他们想要普通人的钱和流量，他们首先得把这里的所有人连你我在内全都赶走
We are the problem
我们就是问题所在
>>62528862
1. rangeban the entire third world (+israel)
1. 对整个世界（+以色列）实施范围封禁
2. remove flags on /pol/
2. 移除/pol/版的国旗标识
3. let users post videos with sound on normal boards
3. 允许用户在普通版面发布带声音的视频
this will attract new users after the initial purge. Once intelligent people return, the site can once again become a home for internet culture. This will attract new users who can fuel monetization
这一波清洗之后会吸引新用户。等聪明人回来后，这里可以再次成为互联网文化的家园。这会吸引更多能推动货币化的新用户
>>62532238
WRONG. You don't understand the niche, nigger.
错了。你不懂这个 niche，黑鬼。
>>62532885
The niche isn't bringing in traffic and in fact it's preventing it
这个 niche 不仅没带来流量，反而在阻碍它
>>62532903
People started coming to 4chan because it was a home for taboo and cutting edge content. You could discuss ideas with candor without worrying about social backlash. The raids, memes, and banter were also top tier.
人们最初来4chan是因为这里是禁忌和前沿内容的避风港。你可以坦诚地讨论想法，而不必担心社会 backlash。那些 raid、梗图和互怼也是一流的。
>What changed?
>有什么变化吗？
Endless retarded slop and psyops drove all the intelligent cutting-edge people away. You saw this on pol after 2016 and on biz with the 2021 dog coin spam. Nobody wants to look through a catalog that has one good thread for every 20 shit ones and nobody wants to see their important conversations slide
无尽的反智垃圾和心理战把那些聪明且前沿的人才都吓跑了。2016年后的/pol/和2021年.biz/的狗狗币刷屏你就看到了。没人想在一堆屎山里找那唯一一条好帖，也没人想让自己重要的对话石沉大海
>>62532929
You're right but now 4chan is known as storefront and if I tell someone I post here the only reaction I get is
你说得对，但现在4chan被称为“商店橱窗”，如果我跟别人说我在这里发帖，他们的反应通常是
>isn't that a Nazi site?
>那不是纳粹网站吗？
I just don't tell anyone I post here. The reputation is enough to get you fired regardless of what actually goes on here
我根本不会告诉任何人我在这里发帖。光凭这个名声就足够让你被炒鱿鱼了，不管这里实际发生了什么
>>62528888
On the contrary, I say we TRIPLE the jannies salary! Better pay would motivate them to take better care of assigned boards, ergo, better user experience, ergo, more users!
相反，我觉得我们该把 janitor 的工资翻三倍！更高的薪资会激励他们更好地维护分配的版面，从而提升用户体验，进而吸引更多用户！
>>62528862
1. Increase the bump/page limits on high traffic boards
1. 提高高流量版面的 bump/page 限制
2. Flags on /biz/
2. 在/biz/启用国旗标识
3. Allow tor+vpns but give them a special flag when they post. Maybe even add extra time to avoid abuse
3. 允许Tor+VPN用户发帖，但给他们加个特殊标识。也许还可以增加发帖延迟以防止滥用
4.add live coin prices to the catalog
4. 在 catalog 中加入实时加密货币价格
5. Allow inter board competition threads like the 4cc
5. 允许跨版面的竞争线程，比如那个4cc
6.add more boards for various things
6. 增加更多各种功能的版面
...
99.rape rapeape
99.强奸 强奸猿
>>62532986
They should just have account (visible only to backend) for tor posters. Ridiculous an "anonymous" site doesn't allow basic privacy.
他们应该只为Tor用户设立一个账户（仅后端可见）。一个自称“匿名”的网站却不允许基本隐私，这太荒谬了。
>>62532995
Pretty sure that's the whole point of email registration to avoid timers and capchas
挺确定邮箱注册的整个意义就是为了避免计时器和验证码
>>62528862
I would start by firing all the jannies and mods of this shithole, because they are incompetent and retarded. esp. rapeape.
我第一步就是开除这坨屎坑里所有的小管理和版主，因为他们既无能又脑残。尤其是那个“强奸猿”。
hire competent people to improve the user experience.
招点能干的人来改善用户体验吧。
>>62532249
>>62532278
go back
滚回去
>>62532885
>>62532929
the problem is that, like >>62532959 says, this website is now associated with nazis and the alt-right, and the racists and schizos are the most vocal and malicious. and if you think that's a coincidence, you should read about the Epstein-moot stuff and picrel, and think again.
问题在于，就像 >>62532959 说的，这个网站现在跟纳粹和另类右翼扯上关系了，那些种族主义者和神经病才是声音最大、最恶毒的一群人。如果你认为这只是巧合，那你最好去查查爱泼斯坦相关的事和图片，然后再想想。
>>62532983
Slow there, cowboy. 4chin must first and foremost make profits for its kekholders
慢点老兄。4chan 首要任务得给 kek 持有者们赚利润。
>>62532885
this board is dead and you're probably replying to a bot, fren...
这个版块已经凉透了，你大概率是在回 bots 的消息，朋友……
>>62533262
The board is dead and I'm not a bot.
版块确实凉了，但我不是 bot。
That would be the schizophrenia I mentioned. If anything the new capcha and timers probably got rid of the bots and that's why the board's dead
那就是我刚才提到的精神分裂。要我说，新出的验证码和发帖倒计时估计是把 bot 都清掉了，所以才导致版块死气沉沉。
>>62529303
this /thread
这个 /thread 也是
>>62533221
Nobody worth talking to cares if you're a 'nazi'. if anything, that makes you more interesting to talk to. What people hate are low iq racist twitter anons. I can remember talking to nazis on /pol/ in 2014-15 who were very well written and had some legitimately interesting perspectives. They often larped as retards, but I think they were quite smart in reality.
值得交流的人根本不在乎你是不是‘纳粹’。要我说，这反而让你更有聊头了。人们讨厌的是那些智商低下的种族主义推特匿名用户。我记得 2014-15 年在 /pol 上跟一些纳粹聊过，他们文笔很好，有些观点确实挺有意思的。他们经常装疯卖傻，但我猜他们其实挺聪明的。
What we have here now are racist normies and third world retards. None of them have anything interesting to say and none are capable of the honesty that made the site great
我们现在有的是种族主义的普通人（normie）和第三世界的脑残。他们没一句有意思的话，也做不到诚实——而正是这种诚实让这里曾经很棒。
>>62530350
you only hve to do one? are you some sorta phone poster?
你只回一条？你是手机发帖怪吗？
>>62533338
you are right but also completely missed my point. ironically, you explained why people are leaving the site in the process: there is no honest discussion, there is just low IQ retards. do you really not remember *when* things started to go down? have you ever tried learning why? the image I posted actually explains it. it's not a conspirancy theory, it's a conspirancy that actually happened. I wouldn't doubt for a second if someone told me that Thiel now owns this website.
你说得对，但也完全没抓到我的重点。讽刺的是，你无意中解释为什么人们都在离开这个网站：这里没有真诚的讨论，只有低智商脑残。你真不记得事情是什么时候开始变糟的？你有没有试着了解过原因？我发的图其实已经说明了。这不是阴谋论，而是真实发生过的阴谋论。如果有人说赛斯·皮埃尔（Thiel）现在拥有这个网站，我连一秒钟都不会怀疑。
>Ban all jeet shihole countries :India,Nepal,Bangladesh etc
>封杀贱种石屎地国家：印度、尼泊尔、孟加拉等
>Enable flags
>开启国旗标记
>cut to 30 seconds the time to make a reply
>把回复编辑时间缩短到 30 秒
>Ban al Link scam threads/African shills
>封杀所有带链接的诈骗帖/非洲托儿
it's so fucking easy but this faggot ass board fears success
这他妈太简单了，但这群脑残版块怕成功。
>>62533480
the retards in charge of managing this site are technically incompetent, even though people in /g/ offer free help all the time, and it's also well know that one of them works at apple. they COULD make things easier for users and hard for bots and spammers, but they don't care.
管理这个网站的那帮脑残在技术上就是 incompetent（无能），尽管 /g/ 版块的人随时都提供免费的技术帮助，而且众所周知其中一个人还在苹果公司工作。他们本可以让用户体验更顺畅，让 bot 和垃圾信息更难搞，但他们根本不在乎。
>people wanting flags
>人们想要国旗标记
>Just turn this into /pol/ 2.0 bro
>干脆把这儿变成 /pol 2.0 算了，兄弟
>Lets constantly talk about LE JEWS and LE INDIANS and LE EUROPEANS and LE AMERICANS
>让我们不停地讨论 LE JEW 们、LE INDIAN 们、LE EUROPEAN 们和 LE AMERICAN 们
Fucking retard kill yourself you are the reason this site sucks. What part of anonymous don't you understand?
他妈的脑残，去死吧，你就是这个网站这么烂的罪魁祸首。你连‘匿名’（Anonymous）是什么意思都不懂吗？
/pol/ literally ruined 4chan, but you are too much of a newfag to know this
/pol literally 毁了 4chan，但你只是个新兵（newfag），根本不知道这一点。
>>62532929
Taboo and cutting edge content aren’t the same. I came here way back in 2008 because this seemed the place that generated most viral internet content that people talked about. It was less edgy back then. The increased anount of edge lords and schizos are a problem because they rarely produce anything in their negativity.
禁忌和前卫内容根本不是一回事。我早在2008年就来了，因为这里看起来是互联网上最容易产生病毒式传播、被人热议的内容的温床。那时候没那么激进。现在那些喜欢标榜自己“狠戾”的极端分子和神经病越来越多，这是个问题，因为他们除了搞破坏和消极抱怨，很少产出任何有价值的东西。
>>62529084
kek'd and based
笑死了，太真了
>>62534888
>they rarely produce anything in their negativity
>他们除了搞破坏和消极抱怨，很少产出任何有价值的东西
And they chase away quality thinkers
而且他们把那些有质量的思想者都吓跑了
They were banned from other social media because nobody wants to talk to them so they gathered here where nobody will ban them and that chased everone else away.
他们因为在其他社交媒体上没人愿意理他们而被封禁，于是聚集到这里，这里没人会封他们，结果反而把其他人都吓跑了。
I suspect this is a normal outcome for unmoderated free speech. It will attract speakers who cannot survive moderation while chasing off those that can
我怀疑这是无审查言论自由的正常结果。它会吸引那些无法在审核环境下生存的发言者，同时吓跑那些能适应审核的人。
The new capcha, timer, and registration effectively got rid of bots and shills, but bots and shills were never the problem. Apparently they were most of the traffic here, but that's because real humans don't like talking to racists and literal schizophrenics
新的验证码、计时器和注册机制确实清除了机器人和水军，但机器人和水军从来都不是问题。显然他们曾经构成了这里的大部分流量，但这只是因为正常人不喜欢和种族主义者和精神病患者打交道。
Getting rid of bots and shills just exposed the fact that every board is just 2 or 3 schizos obsessively arguing with each other all day every day.
除掉机器人和水军只是暴露了一个事实：每个版面其实就只剩两三个神经病在那儿没日没夜地互相争论。
4chan used to ban us for this but now we've chased all the normie traffic off they can't afford to get rid of us because we're all they have left.
4chan以前会因为这个ban掉我们，但现在我们把正常流量都吓跑了，他们再也耗不起把我们弄走了，因为我们成了他们仅剩的资本。
But we're also the reason traffic isn't going up
但流量没涨也是因为我们
To attract people who don't want to be here you'd first have to get rid of the ones that do. Schizos and racists love this place. But we also guarantee it will never make money
要想吸引那些不想待在这儿的人，你首先得把那些想待在这儿的人弄走。神经病和种族主义者最爱这儿。但这也保证了它永远赚不到钱
Moot understood this and I think it's why he left. He didn't want to be the guy supporting racists and other human trash.
moot早就明白这一点，我想这也是他离开的原因。他不想当那个支持种族主义和其他人类渣滓的人。
The current owner seems fine with racism and crazy people. But he's gotta understand normal people hate racists and there's no money in serving them.
现任老板似乎对种族主义和疯子没什么意见。但他得明白，正常人都讨厌种族主义者，伺候这帮人是赚不到钱的。
>>62532694
Bulletin board.
布告栏。
You would have to be over a certain age to remember them being the most popular type.
你得达到一定年纪才能记得它们曾经是最受欢迎的类型。
>>62528862
>>62528888
stop banning for jannys hurt feelings.
别因为他人的鸡毛蒜皮就乱禁言。
FAGGOTS!(in wigs)
娘炮！（戴假发的）
>>62529084
>>62529172
Like 90% of the time I'm traveling and need to buy a data sim abroad, especilaly in asia, it has been rangebanned
就像90%的时候我出差需要在海外买数据卡，尤其是在亚洲，我的IP都会被范围封禁
>>62538042
I believe they're doing this to force email registration.
我猜他们这么做是为了逼用户进行邮箱注册。
I am currently posting on a supposedly rangebanned IP. I'm using a device that mods approved. If I erase cookies or try to post from another device on the same network I get the range message.
我目前正从一个 supposedly 被范围封禁的IP发帖。我用的设备是管理员审批过的。如果我清除cookie，或者尝试在同一网络下的另一个设备上发帖，我就会收到范围封禁的提示。
I believe they have rangebanned the entire world to force either email registration or mod approval of all posters
我怀疑他们已经封禁了全球整个IP段，以迫使所有发帖者要么进行邮箱注册，要么通过管理员审批
Presumably this kills traffic
这显然会扼杀流量
>>62538107
This raises a question of why users here don't want to register a email even though pretty much every other website in the world requires it. It doesn't seem like an unreasonable requirement when everyone is doing it everywhere else.
这就引出了一个疑问：为什么这里用户不愿意注册邮箱，尽管世界上几乎每个其他网站都需要这么做。当全世界其他地方都在这么做时，这看起来并不是什么不合理的要求。
And the answer to that is probably that users here don't want their words here traced back to them either because of paranoia or a legitimate fear that what they're saying could be used against them. Everyone knows they're not ACTUALLY anonymous here, but there's also plausible deniability in that it's difficult to prove who exactly is speaking if multiple people use an IP.
答案大概是，这里的用户也不希望自己的发言被追溯到自己身上，这要么是因为多疑，要么是因为切实担心自己说的话会被拿来当作把柄。大家都知道在这里其实并不真正匿名，但“可否认性”依然存在：如果多人共用一个IP，就很难确切证明是谁在发言。
Requiring an email ties specific words to specific people. That's useful for moderation but hostile to an existing userbase that absolutely doesn't want their real identity associated with their 4chan activity
强制绑定邮箱会将特定的发言与特定的人直接关联起来。这虽然对 Moderation（版务管理）有用，但对现有用户群来说却充满敌意，因为他们绝对不愿意让自己的真实身份与在4chan上的行为挂钩。
>>62538297
Which circles back to,
这又绕回了
>does 4chan really want users who only post terrible things?
>4chan 真的想要那些只发烂帖的用户吗？
>particularly if those users chase everyone else away?
>特别是如果这些用户把其他人都吓跑了的话？
But the move towards email accounts would seem to answer that question.
但转向要求邮箱账号的做法，似乎正是在回答这个问题。
4chan already knows what they need to do to get more traffic and they are doing it. Get rid of existing users that are preventing more traffic. Then I guess advertise that you're no longer the psych ward of the internet and hope normies come back
4chan 早就知道该怎么做才能增加流量，而且他们正在这么做。干掉那些阻碍流量增长的现有用户。然后我想他们会宣传自己不再是“互联网的疯人院”，并指望普通网友（normies）回归。
>>62538346
Any serious attempt at moderation must be seen as a change away from 4chan's ragebait format which has been quite successful over the years but now appears to be dying or moving to other sites.
任何认真的版务管理举措，都意味着要背离4chan多年来非常成功的“激怒引流”（ragebait）模式，而这种模式如今看来正在衰落或迁移到其他网站。
Ragebait is fun but it's a very limited niche that prevents other formats. More importantly it's very fickle and its practitioners bristle at any hint of moderation and will abandon the site. Most of them are already gone and only show up here to "raid"
激怒引流虽然有趣，但它是一个非常局限的小众 niche，会阻碍其他格式的发展。更重要的是，它非常善变，从业者对于任何版务管理的暗示都会感到不适并离开网站。其中大多数已经走了，只剩些人回来搞“突击/炸版”（raid）。
You either gotta attract them back by getting rid of all moderation or cut them loose and shift to more serious conversation and thus more moderation. The existing model is failing, and it's also preventing other models from replacing it
你要么通过废除所有版务管理来把他们吸引回来，要么就彻底放手，转向更严肃的讨论，从而引入更多的版务管理。现有的模式正在失败，并且它也在阻碍其他模式的取代。
>>62538431
One big reason the format is failing is the proverbial pretend retards being overwhelmed by actual retards
这种模式失败的其中一个大原因是，传说中的“装傻仔”被真正的“傻仔”压倒了。
What used to be posted in irony and satire and bait is now posted in sincerity by actual retards.
以前是以讽刺和反讽的方式发帖，现在却被真正的傻仔以真诚的态度发出来。
Smart people don't find actual retards funny, even if they enjoy satirizing them
聪明人不会觉得真正的傻仔好笑，即使他们喜欢以他们为素材进行讽刺。
>>62538483
That raises the question of how to tell pretend retards from real ones and the obvious answer is you can't. You either ban them all or allow them all.
这就引出了如何区分“装傻仔”和“真傻仔”的问题，而显而易见的答案是你做不到。你要么全禁，要么全留。
A website where people pretend to be retarded invariably becomes a website of actual retards
一个人们假装傻的网站，最终会变成一群真正傻子的聚集地。
>>62538507
Sadly, retards don't have money to spend and don't attract other users
可悲的是，傻子们没有钱可花，也吸引不来其他用户。
In fact they cost money and chase people away
事实上，他们不仅浪费钱，还会把别人吓跑。
>>62538522
The only people that are attracted to retards are scammers. Something that has been painfully obvious on /biz/
唯一被傻子吸引的是骗子。这一点在 /biz/ 版块已经痛彻心扉地显而易见。
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