>With each day/week/month/year/ that passes, the bottom 90% falls farther behind
随着每一天/每周/每月/每年的流逝，底层90%的人被甩得越来越远
How do you reply without sounding mad?
怎么回复才不会显得像在发火？
随着每一天/每周/每月/每年的流逝，底层90%的人被甩得越来越远
>With each day/week/month/year/ that passes, the bottom 90% falls farther behind
随着每一天/每周/每月/每年的流逝，底层90%的人被甩得越来越远
How do you reply without sounding mad?
怎么回复才不会显得像在发火？
these things have ways of working themselves out
这些事情总会有办法自己解决
>>62516992
They don’t, they are part of a permanent underclass but things still keep getting worse for them.
并不会，他们构成了永久的底层阶级，而且情况对他们来说还在持续恶化。
>>62516981
>Descartes and his followers performed experiments in which they nailed animals by their paws onto boards and cut them open to reveal their beating hearts. They burned, scalded, and mutilated animals in every conceivable manner. When the animals reacted as though they were suffering pain, Descartes dismissed the reaction as no different from the sound of a machine that was functioning improperly. A crying dog, Descartes maintained, is no different from a whining gear that needs oil.
>笛卡尔及其追随者进行过这样的实验：他们将动物的爪子钉在木板上，剖开动物以展示其跳动的心脏。他们用各种能想象到的方式焚烧、烫伤和肢解动物。当动物表现出痛苦的反应时，笛卡尔认为这种反应与机器运转失常发出的声音并无二致。笛卡尔坚持认为，一只哭叫的狗和一辆需要上润滑油的嘎吱作响的齿轮没什么区别。
>knowledge worker
>知识工作者
People that can use google?
会用谷歌的人？
>>62517002
I thinks he means the working class but didn’t want to say it like that. Working class people don’t like being called working class.
我想他是指工薪阶层，但不想说得那么直白。工薪阶层的人不喜欢被称为工薪阶层。
>>62517002
These little minions which develop the cars and bridges, or make insurances not go bust.
这些搞汽车和桥梁研发，或者确保保险公司不破产的小喽啰。
>>62516997
historically I mean, this has happened repeatedly. nothing is ever permanent. also stop spamming threads (you're mentally ill so you will ignore this of course)
我是说历史上，这种情况反复发生过。没有什么是永久的。也别再刷屏了（你有精神疾病，所以你肯定视而不见）
>>62516981
why are you spamming this board with doomer posts? The last one was the housing thing with the same format
你为什么在这个版块用末日论帖子刷屏？上一个也是这种格式，说的是住房问题
>>62516999
Fuck this guy
去这个人的
>>62517026
There has been an underclass but now it is permanent because if you’re not in the upper arm of the k, you’re falling behind and in the bottom arm of the economy.
确实存在底层阶级，但现在它是永久性的，因为如果你不在上层收入者的行列，你就会在经济底层的队伍里不断落后
>>62517030
Just a little glimpse into the flexibility of society's values. BTW, you will have to sell your children to startup labs. Everyone will love the progress. It will be considered a civic duty and honor to help curing diseases. Baron's kids won't do that though, or in case "we get" communism, the committee members' kids will be exempt. No worries though, they will use pain killers, and the statistics will clearly show minimal risks.
稍微瞥一眼社会价值观的灵活性。顺便说一句，你将来得把你的孩子卖给初创实验室。每个人都会为进步欢呼。治愈疾病会被视为公民义务和荣誉。不过男爵家的孩子可不会这么做，或者万一是“我们”搞起了共产主义，委员会成员的孩子就会免于这种义务。别担心，他们会用止痛药，统计数据也会清楚地显示风险极小。
>>62517050
Parallel economies, one for the bottom 90% and one for the top 10%. Huge gap between the two.
两套平行的经济体系，一套给底层90%，一套给顶层10%。两者之间存在巨大的鸿沟。
>>62516981
>How do you reply without sounding mad?
>你怎么回复才不会显得在生气？
I think your uncle will be very disappointed with you if he found out this is how you were spending your time
我觉得如果你叔叔知道你花这么多时间干这事，他会非常失望
>>62516999
I respect him no longer.
我再也不尊重他了。
>>62516981
Retvrn to tradition, the vpper class will return to fevdalist aristocracy while the lower class will be peasants
回归传统，上层阶级将恢复为封建贵族，而下层阶级则成为农民
>>62516997
Personally, I'll just commit acts of domestic terrorism targeting rich children.
我个人只会实施针对富人孩子的国内恐怖主义行为。
>>62516981
>yang gang
>杨氏团伙
Hi Bob Boomerstone, and my contractor has just delivered us their latest product the HR Roasticon 9000 that will take over next quarter and what's going on in this thread?
你好啊鲍勃·波莫斯塔恩，我的承包商刚刚给我们交付了最新产品——HR Roasticon 9000，它即将接管下个季度，这版块到底在发生什么？
>>62516981
>How do you reply without sounding mad?
>你怎么回复才不会显得在生气？
*Pulls eyes outward with my chopsticks and puts in my buckteeth* OHHHHHH *bangs going* *doo da doo da doo doo doo* FANK YOU MISHTER YANG. *bows* YOU REARY REARY UNDASTAHND US AMERICAHN A PEOPRE PREASE RUN FO PREZIDENT AGAIN PREASE SAVE US MISHTER YANG
*用筷子把眼睛往外拉，露出我的龅牙* 噢噢噢噢噢 *背景音乐响起* *咚哒咚哒咚哒咚哒咚* 谢、谢您，杨先、生。*鞠躬* 您、您真、真是非、非常理解我、我们美、美国、老百姓。求、求求您再、再当总、总统吧，求、求求您救、救救我们，杨先、生
None of this matters. Gen alpha and most zoomers are so retarded, you need three or four of them to do the work of one millennial or gen x. Also, don't forget there will be lots of new jobs. Bug farmer, radiation surveyer, wall watcher, scrap mechanic, water merchant/puriefier technician etc
这一切都不重要。Alpha世代和大部分Z世代的智商简直感人，得三四个才能抵得上一个千禧一代或X世代干活。别忘了，还会涌现大量新职位，比如：虫子养殖员、辐射检测员、墙壁巡检员、废料维修工、水务商/净化技术员之类的。
>>62516997
>permanent underclass
>永久底层阶级
literally all it takes is a couple really pissed off poor people lighting data centers on fire then we're all crabs in a bucket
真的只需要几个气炸了眼的穷人放几把数据中心的大火，咱们就全成“桶中螃蟹”（互相拖累）了
>>62516999
I will no longer post d*scartes memes
我再也不发笛卡尔梗图了
Look to the favelas of Brazil if you want a glimpse into the future
想去窥探一下未来？去看看巴西的法维拉贫民窟吧
We have another 10 years of smashing out as many purchases of equities and real estate as we can. Then youll see some real exponential hikes
咱们还有十年时间，尽可能猛买股票和房产。然后你们就会看到真正的指数级暴涨
I still havent decided between a rental or just go 100% into stocks
我还在纠结是租房还是干脆100%梭哈股票
>>62518278
You're in denial, bud. The train has left the station and you missed it
你这是在自欺欺人，兄弟。火车已经开走，你错过车了
>>62518311
Real estate is at a slump and news are spreading nonstop FUD to try and get retail liquidity out so hedgies can scoop up cheapies
房地产市场处于低谷，新闻界还在不间断地散布FUD（恐惧、不确定和怀疑），好把散户的流动性逼出来，这样对冲基金就能低价捡漏
>>62517010
Clearly white collar you dumbass
显然是白领啊，你这蠢货
>>62516981
>>62516997
>>62517010
OCPD discord tranny thread, a balding 40 year old perma online man
OCPD（强迫型人格障碍）Discord上的跨性别子版块，一个秃顶的40岁永久网虫
>>62518217
To bad there's nothing to burn yet LOL
可惜现在还没什么东西好烧呢 LOL
>>62516981
>without sounding mad
>免得看起来像在生气
Maybe it's time to be mad, op
也许是时候该生气了，楼主
>>62516981
I reply by saying this is nothing new.
我回复说这没什么新鲜的。
The capitalism that has existed since the early 20th century has always had a bottom 90% that supports the top 10%. Imperial nations exploit the people in their colonial holdings in order to prop up their domestic population. Prior to this the conditions of the workers in even the domestic population was pretty dire, and this created a ton of crises. Since the advent of the imperial machine, the domestic population can be pacified by satiation, and economic (and sometimes military) warfare can be used to keep the colonial holdings in check.
自20世纪初以来的资本主义，一直都有一个90%的底层支撑着10%的顶层。帝国国家通过剥削其殖民地的人民，来支撑其国内人口。在此之前，即使是国内人口中的工人状况也相当凄惨，这引发了无数的危机。自帝国机器运转以来，国内人口可以通过满足感来安抚，而通过经济（有时甚至是军事）战争则可以将殖民地控制在一定范围内。
What we're at risk of seeing now is a return to the capitalism of the late 19th century and before, where we shift from the bottom 90% supporting the top 10% to the bottom 99% supporting the top 1%. The borders of nations will no longer represent the boundary of the haves and have nots.
我们现在面临的风险是回归19世纪晚期及之前的资本主义模式，即从“90%的底层支撑10%的顶层”转变为“99%的底层支撑1%的顶层”。国家的边界将不再代表“有产者”和“无产者”的分界线。
There have been three ways this has resolved in the past. One, capitalism is able to reform or expand into a new growth market, stabilizing the wealth of the imperial core. Two, capitalism decays into fascism in order to use the terror of the state to keep the now oppressed masses under control. Three, the state's terror is insufficient to maintain control and revolutionary socialism becomes dominant.
过去有三种解决方式。其一，资本主义得以改革或扩张到新的增长市场，从而稳定帝国核心地区的财富。其二，资本主义退化成为法西斯主义，利用国家的恐怖手段来控制现在被压迫的大众。其三，国家的恐怖手段不足以维持控制，革命社会主义成为主导。
>>62516992
Exactly. Given the above though, there's really only one outcome that guarantees the survival of the humanity in the face of climate change.
没错。但鉴于上述情况，面对气候变化，其实只有一个结果能确保人类生存。
>>62516997
Historically inaccurate
历史失实
>>62516981
da fuck is a knowledge worker sounds pretentious
“知识工作者”是个什么玩意儿，听起来装得一批
socialists unironically believe that the IQ bell curve doesn't exist
社会主义者真心实意地相信IQ的正态分布曲线是不存在的
>>62517018
None of the professions you just listed are under any threat from ai
你刚才列出的这些职业，没有一个会受到AI的威胁
>>62516999
Fucking shit man, I stopped reading. That guy is fucking sadistic, wicked, and deserves to be tortured the same way he killed those poor animals. Disgusting piece of shit. I always find it so fucking odd how psychopaths like this are revered and yet all their wicked shit gets slid under the rug and ignored like they never did it even when you state it point blank. They just ignore and continue to revere such people. Shit this is sadistic and cruel.
真他妈的烂，我看不下去了。这人是真他妈虐待狂，恶毒透了，死有余辜，就让他尝尝自己折磨那些可怜动物时的滋味吧。真他妈恶心。我一直觉得挺离谱的，像这种精神病一样的人居然还被神化，他们那些恶行都被翻篇无视了，好像没发生过一样，哪怕你直说了也没用。他们就是一味无视，继续吹捧这种人。这太虐待狂、太残忍了。
>>62517049
I don’t understand why you think the underclass was ever *not* permanent. At what point in time was it impermanent?
我不明白你为什么认为底层阶级曾经不是永久性的。在哪个时间点他们不是永久性的？
>>62519020
This is why I’m convinced they’re either 18 or some sort of demoralization glowie. Their shit never actually makes sense
所以我坚信他们要么是18岁的小屁孩，要么是某种搞抹黑宣传的特工。他们说的话永远没逻辑。
>>62518217
>lighting data centers on fire
>给数据中心点火
I'll be the one stealing server racks and shoving them into my van.
那我可就搬服务器机柜塞我面包车里了。
>>62516999
Give her the dick was meant ... literally?
把鸡巴给她了……字面意思？
>>62516981
skill issue
菜是原罪（技术不行）
I made good financial choices and now my income is 3x my yearly expenses
我做了明智的财务决策，现在收入是我年度开支的3倍
You should be mad, being calm in the face of people fucking you over is a sign of low test+you love bbc porn
你应该生气，面对被人搞还能冷静，这是睾酮低的表现，而且你爱看黑人操亚洲人色情片
>>62516981
Why would the political class want to curb human progress??
政治阶层为什么要遏制人类进步呢？？
>>62517066
How is this not based tho?
这难道不很酷吗？
>>62516981
Two more decades. Kys spastic.
再等二十年。去死吧，脑瘫。
Layoffs are rampant nobody can get a decent job that's not mcdonalds anymore. But then again why would people still put up with this and just neet the shit of this gay society.
裁员到处都是，除了麦当劳再也找不到像样的工作。不过话说回来，人们为什么还要忍受这些，直接躺平当尼特，在这gay社会里混日子呢。
The standard throughout history was 90% of people being slaves or serfs. Explain why the last century-plus deviation should be the new normal forever. Why should it be? On what basis would you assume such a thing?
历史上的常态是90%的人是奴隶或农奴。解释一下为什么过去一百多年的偏离能成为永恒的常态。为什么应该这样？你凭什么这么假设？
>>62518321
We don't need so much residential real estate once AI replaces the bottom 90%
一旦AI取代了底层90%的人，我们就不需要那么多住宅地产了
the actual problem that is always ignored is on the side of consumption - who is going to consume all the services or goods provided by AI/robots? I believe we are going to get some very basic (low) universal income to continue down the consumerist path, but not without a fight. Otherwise everything seems kind of pointless. How would you even define who belongs to the rich? Maybe I have a fully automated soap factory, but there is next to no goys needing my soaps, am I still with the cool guys? So in the end I forsee a form of UBI. It might not be just the rich who are paying up for this. Everyone who has their wealth invested in stocks/bonds will get taxed to death, but companies will be much more efficient with much higher margins as they will be ran by AI/robots. By the way the world "robot" (from slavic) comes from "ra/robota" (work), which comes from "ra/ob" (slave)
真正的问题总是被忽视，那就是消费端——谁来消费AI/机器人提供的服务或商品？我认为我们会得到某种基本的（低额）全民基本收入，以继续走消费主义道路，但这不会没有斗争。否则一切似乎都挺没意义的。你怎么定义谁属于富人？也许我有一家全自动肥皂厂，但根本没人需要我的肥皂，我还能算“大佬”圈子的人吗？所以最终我预见到某种形式的UBI（全民基本收入）。付钱的未必只是富人。所有财富投资在股票/债券上的人都会被税到死，但公司会更高效，利润率更高，因为它们由AI/机器人运营。顺便说一下，“robot”（机器人）这个词（源自斯拉夫语）来自“ra/robota”（工作），而“robota”又来自“ra/ob”（奴隶）。
>ban tractors! life in tractocracy will be hell! what will we do if we can't rake a field 14h a day!?
>禁拖拉机！拖拉机社会的生活将是地狱！如果我们不能每天在田里耙地14小时，我们要干什么！？
I can't wait. All these dumbass law and medfags that cheated through their exams and earned 200k for using google all day will finally become obsolete.
我等不及了。所有这些愚蠢的法学生和医学生，靠作弊通过考试，一天Google工作却拿着20万的薪水，他们终于要过时了。
>>62520094
There will always be useful and useless people. And the main reason we didn't automate most manual labor yet is because lowlife thirdies are much cheaper than robots. Automation industry almost died in the 00's because everybody just went to China and let old women with tweezers assemble their tech products. Now the Chinese women are dying out and their zoomers don't pick up the shit jobs, so automation is growing again.
总会有有用的人和没用的人。而我们还没把大多数体力劳动自动化，主要原因就是低等的三等公民比机器人便宜得多。自动化行业在2000年代几乎死掉了，因为大家都去中国，让拿着镊子的老妇人组装科技产品。现在中国的这些女性正在老去死去，而他们的Z世代（年轻人）又不肯干这些烂差事，所以自动化又开始增长了。
>>62516981
I am not mad.
我没生气。
The goycattle is vicious and retarded. Let them suffer. I'll slurp the assets for pennies on the dollar after they're done.
那些“外国牛马”又恶毒又蠢。让他们受苦吧。等他们折腾完了，我再以几美分的美分价把他们的资产扫走。
>>62516981
If you weren't part of the top 10% in 2025, you're lower class
如果你在2025年没进前10%，那你就算底层阶级了。
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