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Tipping is a racist relic and a modern tool of §

小费是种族主义的遗物,也是……的现代工具 §

frugal living · economic-oppression- · 2026-09-09 07:33 · 16 帖 · 原文 ↗

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#1 Tipping is a racist relic and a modern tool of § / 小费是种族主义的遗物,也是……的现代工具 §
economic-oppression- · 2026-09-09 07:33
↳ #2 Businesses pay lousy wages / 商家付着低廉的工资
YluvsJ · 2026-09-09 08:19

so tipping is their way of saying oh lookey you can make yada amount of money besides wage

所以小费成了他们的说辞:看,除了工资你还能赚多少多少

Some don't tip, some tip lousy and some minimum as a customer too doesn't want to pay out the nose so the business gets all the profit because they have a NAME

有的顾客不给、给得很少、或只给最低——因为顾客也不想被宰,凭什么商家光靠一个招牌就把利润全吃了

↳ #3 Not everywhere. / 不是所有地方都这样。
-- · 2026-09-09 12:27

In some places wait staff and baristas are making $20+ an hour and people are still being asked to tip. It all depends upon where you are. In the US Southeast I'd absolutely tip people.

有些地方服务员和咖啡师时薪 20 美元以上,人们还是被要求给小费。全看你在哪儿。在美国东南部我 definitely 会给。

↳ #4 In the enfironment of economic repression, / 在经济压制的环境中,
- · 2026-09-09 10:10

which any rigidly (fascism based) organized society inevitably has to regress to (we are in that stage), if you operate a business you will find it to be a highly attractive idea, to offload some of your labor expense directly to your customer.

任何僵硬(以法西斯为基础)组织起来的社会都不可避免地会退化到这一阶段(我们正处于此阶段),如果你经营生意,把一部分人力成本直接转嫁给顾客会是个非常有吸引力的主意。

As a customer, you benefit from lower prices (as the prices would have to be higher otherwise) being the consequence of this "hack".

作为顾客,你从更低的标价中受益(否则标价必须更高)——这正是这个“妙招”的后果。

As a business you pay less to your employees than you would otherwise have to pay.

作为商家,你付给员工的比你原本必须付的少。

As a worker, you hide a significant part of your earnings from the taxation.

作为员工,你把收入的一大部分藏在了税外。

So, this is how the people escape the financial repression (no, it has nothing to do with the typical, socialist understanding of the "oppression").

所以,这就是人们逃离金融压制的方式(不,这跟社会主义者通常理解的“压迫”无关)。

↳ #5 I agree, however... / 我同意,不过……
Tyse · 2026-09-09 12:31

it used to be a lot easier to hide the income of tips from taxation than it is now. Used to be most tips were paid by cash, but these days more and more are paid by credit card along with the meal cost.

过去把小费收入瞒在税外比现在容易多了。过去大多数小费是现金,如今越来越多是刷卡连着餐费一起付。

Then it depends on how the restaurant handles those tips paid by credit card how easy it is for the server to hide that income.

那就要看餐厅怎么处理刷卡小费了,服务员想瞒住那部分收入的难度因此不同。

I was a server many years ago with a very tiny wage but good money in tips always in cash, and I could decide what I reported to the IRS but things are different now.

我很多年前做过服务员,底薪极低但小费可观、全是现金,我自己决定向国税局报多少——现在情况不一样了。

↳ #6 as of 2025, the first 25k of tips are now / 从 2025 年起,小费的前 2.5 万美元
- · 2026-09-09 13:15

not taxable.

免税。

↳ #7 Not sustainable. Trump lied, it helps nobody. § / 不可持续。特朗普撒谎,这对谁都没好处 §
-MAGA-are_STUPES · 2026-09-12 18:27
↳ #8 If you put the tip on the credit card... / 如果你把小费刷在卡上……
NiceYoungLady · 2026-09-10 12:13

...it considered to be an "involuntary tip", which is then subject to sales tax on top of the tip. So the server actually receives a smaller tip than you intended.

……它被视为“强制小费”,还要在小费之上再加销售税。所以服务员实际拿到的小费比你打算给的少。

It may vary by state, but California adds the extra sales tax (7.25 to 9.5% depending on the county or city).

各州可能不同,但加州会加收额外销售税(视县或市 7.25% 到 9.5%)。

↳ #9 Wage theft is a crime. If you can't afford the / 偷工资是犯罪。如果你付不起
tip_you · 2026-09-09 12:16

can't afford to 'dine in'....

付不起“堂食”……

↳ #10 wrong
- · 2026-09-09 16:02

regardless of what you think, or want, the tip is NOT part of the price. And anything that is NOT part of the price, except taxes, I don't have to pay.

无论你怎么想、想要什么,小费都不是价格的一部分。凡不是价格一部分的东西,除了税,我都不用付。

So, no, you get absolutely nothing from me. Zero. And if you as much as breath wrong, I'll make sure it will be easier for your boss to get rid of you than to tolerate your presence.

所以,不,你从我这里什么都得不到。零。你要是敢喘错一口气,我就让你老板开除你比容忍你更容易。

If you want to get paid, state it upfront, include it in price. I don't care what you believe everybody should know.

想赚钱就明说,写进价格里。我不在乎你觉得“人人都该知道”什么。

↳ #11 Have not dined in as you say in DECADES § / 我已经几十年没像你说的那样堂食了 §
YluvsJ · 2026-09-10 10:33
↳ #12 So get a better paying job. If waiting tables is / 那就去找份工资更高的工作。如果端盘子是
--- · 2026-09-10 10:52

the only skill you have you need to learn something else. Don't blame you customers for your bad choice.

你唯一的技能,你就得学点别的。别把自己糟糕的选择怪到顾客头上。

↳ #13 No one in this thread claimed to be a server § / 本帖没人自称是服务员 §
ESL_moron_ · 2026-09-10 12:35
↳ #14 OR could sit on forum & type all day do nothing § / 或者整天坐论坛打字什么都不干 §
YluvsJ · 2026-09-11 08:59
↳ #15 Lets see here. There is no agreement / 我们捋一下。顾客并没有签什么协议
- · 2026-09-10 11:29

or contract that the customer entered into.

或合同。

This means that the waitstaff might be playing the role of an "officious intermeddler"*.

这意味着服务员可能扮演着“多管闲事的干涉者”*的角色。

That's when someone does something you didnt ask them to do and then wants to be paid- like someone that runs up and cleans your windshield at an intersection then asks for money.

这就是指有人做了你没让他做的事、然后要你付钱——就像路口有人冲上来擦你的挡风玻璃然后要钱。

But wait, that doesnt work because the customer expects the waitstaff to serve them and have every opportunity to refuse the service.

但这行不通,因为顾客预期服务员提供服务,且随时有权拒绝服务。

So.... "wrong" is incorrect and "wage theft is a crime" is correct because if the customer doesnt pay it's "unjust enrichment"**

所以……说“你不对”不成立,而“偷工资是犯罪”成立,因为顾客不付钱就是“不当得利”

The customer owes for the service they accepted and benefited from.

顾客欠的是他接受并受益的那项服务的钱。

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Officious_intermeddler

** https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/unjust_enrichment

↳ #16 If YOU can't afford to tip, it isn't the waiter / 如果你给不起小费,问题不在服务员,
who_needs_a · 2026-09-10 12:37

better job.

去换份更好的工作。

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