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Bill McKibben on Amanpour

比尔·麦基本上阿曼普尔节目

boomers · creigalt2 · 2026-08-01 16:23 · 14 帖 · 原文 ↗

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#1 Bill McKibben on Amanpour / 比尔·麦基本上阿曼普尔节目
creigalt2 · 2026-08-01 16:23

Bill McKibben:

比尔·麦基本:

For 40 years, scientists have been telling us that the worst thing that humans have ever done is change the chemistry of the atmosphere and hence heat the earth. Finally, the EPA recognized this, which allowed the U..S. to begin to take at least modest policy steps to start replacing some coal-fired power plants with gas-fired power plants, to spur the development of EVs.

40年来,科学家一直告诉我们,人类做过的最糟糕的事就是改变大气化学组成,从而让地球升温。终于,环保署承认了这一点,这让美国得以开始采取至少是适度的政策步骤,比如用燃气电厂替代部分燃煤电厂,推动电动车发展。

All the things that began this energy transition, albeit slowly. But also, all the things that angered the fossil fuel industry and the fossil fuel industry is in our country politically powerful.

所有开启这场能源转型的事情,虽然进展缓慢。但同样也是所有惹怒化石燃料行业的事情,而在我们这个国家,化石燃料行业在政治上很有影响力。

You'll remember candidate Trump telling heads of the oil industry that if they gave him a billion dollars in campaign donations, they would get anything they wanted. They ended up between donations and advertising and lobbying, spending about half a billion in the last election cycle. And clearly, that was enough, not only have we shut down wind farms that were 90% complete, put huge swaths of the country off-limits to solar panels, we've also now issued this proclamation that physics is wrong.

你们还记得特朗普候选人时期告诉石油行业大佬,如果他们给他十亿美元的竞选捐款,他们就能得到任何想要的东西。结果他们在上个选举周期里,加上捐款、广告和游说,总共花了大约五亿美元。显然,这已经够了,我们不仅关停了那些已完成90%的风电场,把大片国土划为太阳能禁区,现在还发布了这份宣称物理学是错误的声明。

For the whole interview:

完整采访:

https://www.wliw.org/programs/amanpour-and-company/bill-mckibben-on-trumps-climate-rollbacks-this-is-economic-self-sabotage-3h62ex/

#2 It was wrong of Obama to shut down / 奥巴马关停那些燃煤电厂是错的。
58stitches · 2026-08-01 16:40

those coal plants. They had already met EPA demands.

那些电厂早就达到了环保署的要求。

#3 got converted to gas and they burn cleaner / 后来改成了燃气,烧起来更干净。
HeliosKorax · 2026-08-01 16:47

Emissions are way down for plants. We have a huge amount of Natural gas. Coal is incredibly inefficient transport to burning.

电厂的排放大幅降低了。我们有大量的天然气。煤炭从运输到燃烧都极其低效。

The transition to natural gas has accounted for much of the decrease in emissions, with natural gas combined cycle plants emitting less than one-third the amount of carbon dioxide compared to coal-fired plants.

转向天然气是排放减少的主要原因,天然气联合循环电厂的二氧化碳排放量不到燃煤电厂的三分之一。

Not only is natural gas more efficient, but advanced gas power generation technologies are also highly reliable, providing base power generation support during times of the day when the wind is not blowing and/or the sun is not shining. The abundant supply and low pricing of natural gas in regions like the U.S. further add to the economic viability of fuel-switching.

天然气不仅更高效,先进的燃气发电技术也非常可靠,在一天中没风或没太阳的时候提供基础电力支撑。美国等地区天然气供应充足、价格低廉,更让燃料转换在经济上可行。

Over 140 coal-fired power plants have been converted to burn natural gas since 2008 as part of a trend to reduce carbon emissions and improve efficiency. This shift is driven by the need for cleaner energy sources and the economic advantages of natural gas.

自2008年以来,已有超过140座燃煤电厂改烧天然气,这是减少碳排放、提高效率趋势的一部分。这一转变是由对更清洁能源的需求和天然气的经济优势推动的。

construction-physics.com

https://www.woodwayenergy.com/coal-to-natural-gas-conversions/

DUMBASS!!!

#4 No, they got torn down. People died doing it. / 不,那些电厂是被拆了的。拆的时候还死了人。
58stitches · 2026-08-01 17:22

People also lost their jobs and electric bills skyrocketed, as Obama promised.

人们也丢了工作,电费飙升,就像奥巴马承诺的那样。

#5 Link? Paper? Research or more of your bullshit! § / 链接?论文?研究?还是又是你瞎扯?
HeliosKorax · 2026-08-01 17:54
#6 Shut up stupid. § / 闭嘴,傻逼。
58stitches · 2026-08-01 20:31
#7 .
HeliosKorax · 2026-08-01 22:12

https://forums.craigslist.org/?ID=345408738

#8 If you gave him a link he'd bitch about that, / 你要是给他一个链接,他又会抱怨那个。
Made-ln-USA · 2026-08-01 22:16

Someday he'll learn how to do research on his own.

总有一天他会学会自己做研究。

#9 Solar "farms" are destroying 1000's of acres / 太阳能“农场”正在毁掉成千上万英亩
woodenheadwoody · 2026-08-01 17:53

of prime forest and pastureland.

的优质森林和牧场。

Plants, trees inhale carbon and exhale oxygen. We need plants and pastures. Some forests are being clearcut to install solar panels. Where will we get our oxygen?

植物和树木吸入二氧化碳,呼出氧气。我们需要植物和牧场。有些森林正被砍伐用来安装太阳能板。那我们的氧气从哪里来?

Solar panels are built on concrete bases. Nothing grows under a solar panel.

太阳能板建在混凝土底座上。太阳能板下面什么都不长。

#10 "WINDMILLS KILL WHALES" LOLOLOLlllllllllllllllll § / “风车杀鲸鱼” 哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈 §
HeliosKorax · 2026-08-01 18:51
#11 You'd better stay away from windmills, then.... § / 那你最好离风车远点咯.... §
Mr_No_Dreamer · 2026-08-01 20:11
#12 hehehehe § / 嘿嘿嘿嘿§
imsosorry2 · 2026-08-01 23:02
#13 only green scam psychphants get air time, like / 只有绿色骗局的精神病才会上新闻,比如
muckish · 2026-08-01 18:51

greta thunberg. legit scientists who dispute green scam via

格蕾塔·通贝里。那些用科学质疑绿色骗局的

science were silenced while a 16 year old carried the

正经科学家都被封口了,而一个16岁的小女孩扛起了

green scam banner

绿色骗局的大旗

#14 Sounds like he is McFibben. § / 听起来他像是麦基本。 §
imsosorry2 · 2026-08-01 23:01
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