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Chicken & Noodles!

鸡肉和面条!

food · absolutefutility · 2026-07-25 21:54 · 24 帖 · 原文 ↗

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#1 Chicken & Noodles! / 鸡肉和面条!
absolutefutility · 2026-07-25 21:54

I know, usually this lands on chicken & dumplings, but I wasn't in the mood to "dumple"...

我知道,通常这种菜会做成鸡肉馄饨,但我当时没心情去“捏馄饨”……

I watched this video on Youtube about this retired couple who live in Florida and Kentucky, I think they said, and they do these videos from both locations. This was one they did in Kentucky and it is a very Kentuckian recipe.

我在YouTube上看了一个视频,讲的是住在佛罗里达州和肯塔基州的一对退休夫妇,好像是这么说的,他们俩地儿都拍视频。这是他们在肯塔基州拍的那期,是个很地道的肯塔基菜谱。

Chicken & Noodles... You've got yer self summat chicken...and summat noodles...

鸡肉面……你有你自己搞点鸡肉……还有搞点面条……

Actually, they do it with chicken, noodles and a copious amount of Cream Of Chicken Soup from Campbell's.

实际上,他们是用鸡肉、面条和大量坎贝尔奶油鸡汤罐头做的。

Here's how they did it...

来看看他们是怎么做的……

And, yes, I did it this way too, but, in the future, I probably won't.

而且,是的,我也这么做过,但以后我大概不会这么做了。

They start with four quarts of water in a pot. Obviously, this is for boiling the noodles, but that's not how the recipe starts. Firstly, they poach the chicken in the water they're going to boil the noodles in.

他们先在一个锅里倒四夸脱水。显然,这是用来煮面条的,但菜谱的第一步不是这样。首先,他们在煮面条的水里把鸡肉烩一下。

Now, everyone already knows that I'm not a fan of boiling meat. Only certain kinds of meat, like beef and pork, are dense enough to handle the boiling process. Otherwise, meat like chicken and fish, simply boils out all its flavor into the poaching liquid and then you're left with tasteless meat and the flavor gets chucked out with the liquid in the pot!

大家都知道,我不喜欢把肉拿去水煮。只有某些种类的肉,比如牛肉和猪肉,密度够大才能承受水煮。否则,像鸡肉和鱼类这样的肉,会把所有味道都煮进汤里,最后剩下的肉没味儿,而味道全倒进锅里的汤里被倒掉了!

In this case, I followed the process because I knew we'd be boiling the pasta in the poaching water and then adding the family-sized can of Cream Of Chicken soup to it. All the flavor gets preserved, even if it leaves the chicken mostly as a texture rather than a flavor.

这次我照着流程做了,因为我知道我们会把煮面水拿来煮意面,然后加入家庭装的那罐奶油鸡汤罐头。所有味道都保留下来了,尽管鸡肉最后更多是提供口感而不是味道。

So, we poached the chicken, took it OUT of the pot and let it rest, then added in the soup and noodles to the poaching liquid and let it cook until the pasta was tender.

所以,我们把鸡肉烩好,从锅里拿出来放凉,然后把汤和面条加到煮鸡的汤里,一起煮到意面变软。

At that point, I diced up the chicken and put it back in the pot with the noodles.

这时候,我把鸡肉切丁,重新倒回锅里跟面条混在一起。

It still wasn't thick enough, and they particularly noted that it might not be, for which they made a thickening slurry of water and flour. But I don't like that, so I made one with cornstarch and water.

汤还是不够浓稠,他们还特别提到可能不会很稠,所以他们用面粉和水调了个勾芡用的浆。但我不喜欢那样,所以我用玉米淀粉和水调了个浆。

The noodles will thicken themselves if you let them sit long enough, but since we were hungry we didn't want to wait until then. By the time we'd eaten and it was time to put away the leftovers, the pasta had trebled in size and the mixture was very thick.

如果让面条静置足够长的时间,它们自己会变稠,但我们饿着肚子不想等。等我们吃完,该收拾剩菜的时候,意面已经膨胀了三倍,混合物也变得非常稠。

It was a tasty dish, very filling and warm. Probably better for the fall or winter than these summer months, but as soon as I saw the video I developed a powerful craving for Cream Of Chicken soup!

这道菜味道不错,很饱腹,热乎乎的。可能更适合秋天或冬天,而不是这几个夏天月份,但一看到那个视频,我就特别想吃奶油鸡汤罐头!

That being said, one of the interesting things about chicken & noodles is that it has a sister dish, beef & noodles. These are pretty much exactly the same, only you sub out the Cream Of Chicken for Cream of Mushroom.

话说回来,鸡肉面这道菜有意思的地方在于,它还有个“姐妹菜”——牛肉面。这两道菜基本上完全一样,只是把奶油鸡汤罐头换成了奶油蘑菇汤罐头。

But there's a catch to the beef & noodles that, even to this day, I do not understand.

但牛肉面有个坑,直到今天我都搞不懂。

These Kentuckians, and even all the way up through Michigan and down to Tennessee, they make this beef & noodles...and they will invariably serve it over mashed potatoes.

那些肯塔基人,甚至一路延伸到密歇根再下到田纳西的人,他们做这道牛肉面……而且 invariably 会把它铺在土豆泥上。

No, I have no idea why they do that.

不,我完全不知道他们为什么要这么做。

It would be a carbohydrate overload!

这碳水摄入量要爆表了好吗!

But they do it...they love it...it is almost a requirement. They sometimes do it with chicken & noodles too, but not nearly with the frequency as the other dish.

但他们就是这么做的……他们也爱吃……这几乎成了一种规矩。 他们有时也会给鸡肉面配土豆泥,但远没给牛肉面配得那么频繁。

I have had the beef & noodles with mashed potatoes and...it is just SO starchy! And, amusingly, when I went to the dinner where they served this beef, noodles and mashed...they served it with garlic toast!

我吃过配土豆泥的牛肉面……天哪,那淀粉含量简直逆天!而且有趣的是,我去参加那顿有牛肉、面条和土豆泥的晚餐时,他们居然还配了蒜香面包!

Can you even imagine!

你都能想象那场面吗!

And not a vegetable in sight!

连根蔬菜的影子都没看见!

At least, when I made the chicken & noodles tonight, I served it with a side of singed broccoli.

起码今晚我做鸡肉面的时候,配了一份烤西兰花。

Probably would have done green beans instead if I'd thought it through a little more. The singed broccoli was the wrong flavor profile for the chicken & noodles. It was delicious, just...not quite right.

如果我再仔细想想,可能本来会选青豆。烤西兰花的味道跟鸡肉面不太搭。虽然很好吃,但就是……不太对劲。

At least it wasn't peas!

起码没放豌豆!

I hate peas. Well, I hate the American peas. The marrowfat peas of the UK are perfectly fine...and so are the pigeon peas of the Caribbean. But sweet peas...they just don't do it for me.

我讨厌豌豆。好吧,我讨厌美国的豌豆。英国的马铃薯豌豆就完全没问题……加勒比海的 pigeon peas(一种豆类)也很棒。但甜豌豆……就是没法让我心动。

I think it must be because sweet peas are not dried like the others. But, I digress.

我觉得可能是因为甜豌豆不像其他那种是晒干的。但,扯远了。

#2 I ete alla chikken noodles yoo got.. / 俺有嘛吃嘛鸡肉面!
Friglet · 2026-07-25 22:23

Mmm boy, chickken noodles...

啧啧,鸡肉面真香啊……

#3 Chicken & Noodles (fixed!) / 鸡肉面(已修正版)
JennSwazimoto · 2026-07-26 03:34

---Weaknesses:---

Overwriting: Too many hedges ("I think," "Obviously," "everyone already knows"), filler phrases, and redundant explanations

过度修饰:过多的留有余地的说法(如“我认为”、“显然”、“大家都知道了”)、填充词和冗余的解释

Tangents that overstay: The beef & noodles/mashed potatoes digression is entertaining but goes on too long and loses momentum

离题太长:牛肉面/土豆泥的离题讨论虽然有趣,但篇幅过长,导致节奏松散

Repetitive structure: You explain the same thing (flavor leaving the chicken) twice in close proximity

结构重复:你在相近的地方两次解释了同一个问题(风味从鸡肉中流失)

Weak opening: "I know, usually this lands..." is vague and doesn't hook the reader

开篇薄弱:“我知道,通常这个……”太模糊,无法吸引读者

Inconsistent pacing: The recipe steps are clear, but the asides interrupt the flow

节奏不一致:食谱步骤很清晰,但旁白插话打断了流畅感

Weak ending: It trails off into peas, which is funny but doesn't land as a conclusion

结尾乏力:故事最后滑向豌豆,虽然好笑,但无法作为一个有力的结尾收束

---Specific issues:---

---具体问题:---

"You've got yer self summat chicken" feels forced—either commit to dialect or drop it

“You've got yer self summat chicken”这种方言读起来很做作——要么坚持用方言,要么就别用

The thickening paragraph is clunky (cornstarch vs. flour, waiting vs. hunger)

增稠那段很别扭(玉米淀粉对比面粉,等待对比饥饿) 结尾的西兰花/豌豆部分感觉像是个事后补充,而不是令人满意的收尾

The broccoli/peas section at the end feels like an afterthought rather than a satisfying close

结尾处西兰花和青豆那段感觉像是事后补上的,而不是一个让人满意的收尾

---Rewrite---

Chicken & Noodles (With a Side of Regret)

鸡肉面(附带悔恨版)

I know, I know—when I said "comfort food," you expected chicken and dumplings. But I wasn't in the mood to dumple. Sue me.

我知道,我知道——当我提到“治愈系食物”时,你期待的是鸡肉 dumplings。但我今天不想搞 dumplings。拿我没办法吧。

It started with a YouTube video: a retired couple who split their time between Florida and Kentucky, filming recipes from both. This one came from their Kentucky kitchen, and it was aggressively Kentuckian. Chicken and noodles. Not dumplings. Noodles. With a family-sized can of Campbell's Cream of Chicken soup thrown in like it owed them money.

这事儿是从一个YouTube视频开始的:一对退休夫妻在佛罗里达和肯塔基之间来回住,两地食谱都拍。这个来自他们的肯塔基厨房,那股子肯塔基味儿冲得很。鸡肉面条。不是 dumplings(饺子/馄饨),是 noodles(面条)。里头还扔了一罐家庭装坎贝尔奶油鸡汤,那架势好像鸡汤欠了他们钱似的。

I followed their method exactly. Once. Probably won't again.

我严格按他们的方法做了一次。大概不会再有第二次了。

Here's the gist: four quarts of water. Poach the chicken in it first—yes, the same water you'll boil the noodles in. Now, I'm not a fan of boiling poultry. Beef and pork can take the heat; chicken just gives up all its flavor to the liquid and becomes a sad, tasteless textural ghost. But here's the loophole: the noodles would soak up that poaching liquid, and the Cream of Chicken soup would go right in after. So the flavor stayed in the dish, even if the chicken itself was mostly there for moral support.

大致流程是这样的:四夸脱水。先把鸡肉放进去煮—对,就是后面煮面条用的同一锅水。说真的,我不太喜欢煮禽肉。牛肉和猪肉耐煮,鸡肉却会把所有风味都煮到汤里,自己变成一具可怜、没味儿、只剩质感的空壳。但这里的漏洞在于:面条会吸饱那锅煮鸡水,奶油鸡汤随后也能加进去。所以风味全留在菜里了,哪怕鸡肉本身 mostly 只是为了提供道德支持。

We poached, we rested the chicken, we added soup and noodles to the pot. When the pasta was tender, I diced the chicken and stirred it back in.

我们煮了鸡,把鸡肉歇凉,然后把汤和面条倒进锅里。面煮软后,我把鸡肉切丁拌回去。

It wasn't thick enough yet—they'd warned us. They suggested a flour-and-water slurry, but I'm a cornstarch man myself. Either way, the noodles will thicken the whole thing if you give them time. We didn't. We were hungry. By the time we'd eaten and went to pack up the leftovers, the pasta had doubled in size and the mixture was practically a solid. Good thing it was tasty: rich, warming, absurdly filling. Better for November than July, but the moment I saw that video, the craving took hold.

汤还不够浓稠—他们早就警告过。他们建议用面粉加水调成水淀粉勾芡,但我自己偏爱玉米淀粉。不管用哪种,只要给面条时间,它们能把整锅东西煮浓。但我们没给。我们饿了。等我们吃完去打包剩菜时,面条已经膨胀了两倍,整锅东西几乎凝固成固体了。幸好味道不错:浓郁、暖胃、饱腹感爆棚。这菜更适合十一月而不是七月,但自从看到那个视频后,我就馋得不行。

Now, here's where things get weird.

现在,怪事儿来了。

Chicken & noodles has a sister dish: beef & noodles. Same idea, except you swap Cream of Chicken for Cream of Mushroom. Logical enough. But here's the part I still don't understand—and apparently nobody in Kentucky, Tennessee, or Michigan can explain it to me either: they serve beef & noodles over mashed potatoes.

鸡肉面条有个姐妹菜:牛肉面条。思路一样,只是把奶油鸡汤换成奶油蘑菇汤。挺合逻辑的。但我最不懂的部分—而且 apparently 在肯塔基、田纳西或密歇根,也没人能给我解释清楚—他们把牛肉面条盖在土豆泥上。

Yes. Noodles over potatoes. Starch on starch. Carbpocalypse.

对。面条盖土豆泥。淀粉配淀粉。碳水末日。

And sometimes—I swear I'm not making this up—they serve it with garlic toast on the side. No vegetables. Not a green thing in sight. I had it once at a dinner, and I still haven't recovered.

有时候—我发誓我没瞎编—他们还旁边配蒜香面包。没蔬菜。连根绿色的都看不见。我有一回在宴会上吃过,至今还没缓过劲来。

To my credit, I served my chicken & noodles with singed broccoli. The flavor profile was wrong—green beans would've been better—but at least it wasn't peas. I hate American peas. Sweet little green orbs of disappointment. Marrowfat peas? Fine. Pigeon peas? Delicious. But sweet peas can stay out of my bowl.

值得我自豪的是,我配了烤得有点焦的西兰花。风味搭配不太对—配四季豆会更好—但至少没配豌豆。我讨厌美国那种甜豌豆。甜蜜的绿色小球,满满的失望。马伦豌豆?还行。鸽豆?美味。但甜豌豆最好别进我的碗。

Anyway. The chicken & noodles were good. Probably better next time with a few tweaks. And definitely not over mashed potatoes.

总之,鸡肉面条味道不错。下次稍微改改应该会更好。但绝对不盖土豆泥。

I have standards.

我有我的底线。

---What changed:---

---改了啥:---

Tighter opening that hooks you immediately

开头的钩子更紧,马上抓人

Cut repetition (flavor explanation happens once, cleanly)

删去重复内容(风味解释只提一次,干净利落)

Moved the beef/mashed tangent to its own section for better rhythm

把牛肉/土豆泥那段扯出去单独成节,节奏更好

Tighter pacing—every sentence earns its place

节奏更紧凑—每句话都得有它的存在价值

Stronger ending that circles back to the dish and lands with humor

更强劲的结尾,呼应这道菜,并以幽默收尾

Removed forced dialect and kept the voice natural

去掉了刻意的方言,让语气更自然

Tighter word count: ~600 words vs. your original ~850

字数更紧凑:约600字 vs 你原来的约850字

#4 You can't fix perfection, honey... / 既然完美无缺,何必这么较真呢,亲爱的...
absolutefutility · 2026-07-26 06:02

As your post proves.

你的帖子就证明了这一点。

And your obsession just made you admit that you find my post entertaining.

而且,你的执拗正好让你承认,你觉得我的帖子挺有意思的。

But tell us again how you never read any of it even though now you're entertained and copying the entire thing...that's hilarious!

可你再说说你是怎么声称从未读过任何内容,现在却又被逗乐并全盘照搬的……这太搞笑了!

#5 If you were perfect, / 如果你真的完美,
EeeGads · 2026-07-26 06:08

you wouldn't shit up our forum every day.

你就不会每天往我们论坛里喷粪了。

#6 I am and I don't. / 我就是完美,而且我没喷。
absolutefutility · 2026-07-26 06:12

YOU do.

Your obsession with me, as you just proved, is why this forum gets filled with nonsense posts. You can't control yourself.

你对我的执念,正如你刚证明的那样,才是论坛充斥垃圾帖的根源。你根本控制不了自己。

This isn't a battle of wits...YOU are witless.

这可不是什么智力对决……你是真的没脑子。

#7 Look in the mirror piggy / 去照照镜子吧,猪头
CassiniDestroyer · 2026-07-26 09:28

We can see you

我们可都看着你呢

#8 Why? I won't see what you see when you look... / 为啥?你照镜子时看到的可不是我眼中的那样……
absolutefutility · 2026-07-26 11:55

That's not how mirrors work.

镜子可不是那么工作的。

#9 Correct, we're all aware how mirrors work, dunce / 没错,大家都知道镜子怎么用,蠢货
CassiniDestroyer · 2026-07-26 12:49

You'll see you, the pig.

你只会看到你,那头猪。

#10 You're not. / 你才不是。
absolutefutility · 2026-07-26 15:17

You just suggested if I looked in one I'd see YOU.

你刚才明明暗示,如果我照镜子,我会看到“你”。

#11 ":You you YOUR your Youre YOU, YOU, YOU"- aFool § / “:你 你 你的 你 你是 你 你 你”——傻瓜 §
JennSwazimoto · 2026-07-26 17:07
#12 You two losers should go fuck yourselves... / 你俩个loser干脆自己玩去好了……
Smells_Like_Cheese · 2026-07-26 17:29

Two of the nose useless fucks on these forums...

这两个论坛里连鼻子都没用的蠢货……

#13 YOU are the "nose" useless fuck in the forum. § / 你才是论坛里那个“没鼻子”的蠢货。§
James386051 · 2026-07-26 17:31
#14 You certainly are a fool... / 你确实是个傻瓜……
absolutefutility · 2026-07-26 19:18

See what I mean? This isn't a battle of wits...because you are witless.

看到我没?这根本不是智力对决……因为你根本不动脑子。

#15 Why are you an ID10T? We all want to know. § / 你为啥是个ID10T?我们都好奇呢。§
UR_an_ID10T · 2026-07-26 19:33
#16 I'm not the one who can't spell: "idiot"...idiot § / 可我不是那个连“idiot”都拼不对的人吧:傻瓜 §
absolutefutility · 2026-07-26 20:01
#17 You just lie constantly, you need attention,+/- / 你一直在撒谎,你只是需要关注,+/-
CassiniDestroyer · 2026-07-26 20:19

Doesn't matter as long as you get attention.

反正只要你得到关注就行。

You're a standard Dark Triad Narcissist, a loser, a schizoid a junky.

你就是个标准的黑暗三联征自恋狂,废物,分裂症患者,还有个毒瘾。

#18 No, that's just some shit you made up. / 不,那不过是你瞎编的烂事。
absolutefutility · 2026-07-26 20:44

I never lie at all. I don't need to. I also don't "need" attention. YOU are the one who NEEDS to give it to me. You cannot control yourself, at all.

我从不撒谎。我也不需要撒谎。我同样也“不需要”关注。你才是那个拼命想给我关注的人。你完全控制不了自己。

I dare you to stop.

我赌你不敢停。

I dare you to try.

我赌你试试。

No one can imagine why you believe that I am an attention whore and yet you insist on giving me as much attention as you possibly can...every single minute of every single hour of every single day.

没人能理解,你为啥会认为我是个爱刷存在感的人,可你却偏偏每小时、每天、每分钟都要把最大量的关注塞给我……

The only explanation is that YOU are the attention whore and stalking me, trolling me, attacking me, is something you confuse for "attention".

唯一的解释就是,你才是那个爱刷存在感的货色,而你 stalking、trolling、attack 我的行为,被你误以为是“给关注”。

Tell us again how you can stop whenever you want but you can never stop because that means I win...we never get tired of hearing that one.

再跟我们吹嘘一遍你“随时能停”,却又因为停了就意味着你输了所以根本停不下来吧……我们百听不厌。

#19 QED
CassiniDestroyer · 2026-07-26 21:18

Duh

#20 Yes, I proved it was some shit you made up. § / 没错,我证明了那不过是你编造的狗屁。§
absolutefutility · 2026-07-26 21:38
#21 please stop shitting on forum § / 请别往论坛里喷粪了 §
James386051 · 2026-07-26 23:25
#22 I'm not, YOU find my posts entertaining. / 我没喷,是你觉得我的帖子有意思。
absolutefutility · 2026-07-27 06:20

And your obsession with me won't let you stop reading them.

而你对我的执念,让你连不看都做不到。

You're welcome.

不客气。

#23 Nice try, but that will bounce right off her. § / 算你厉害,但这话在她身上根本没用。§
creigalt2 · 2026-07-26 16:14
#24 ^^^ Idolizes aFool = Is aFool / ^^^ 崇拜 aFool = 就是 aFool
CassiniDestroyer · 2026-07-26 20:21

Same identical posts from both handle at different times.

两个账号在不同时间发着完全一样的帖子。

She's a psychotic loser

她是个精神失常的废物

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